As a joy division and new order fan i feel touched when anyone, but in particular, established artists choose to interpret, personalise and perform their music. Ian has gone but he still inspires generations and will do forever.I will be sad when people stop covering their songs.
Me too.I almost like this version more than the new ones they do with Peter Hook joining the Smashing Pumpkins on stage to play Transmission. And now Hookie's son Jack is the bassist for The Smashing Pumpkins!It is awesome to see father and son on stage/an original musician play the song live.But this performance is more abstract and dreamy and was done during the height of their fame,and creativity. And with another amazing lineup. It's a an amazing tribute.
I swear I have never heard anyone do to covers what Billy pulls off. For live performances, he will reinterpret his 'own' freaking songs in ways that somehow transcend the original recording-i.e. "Shame" during the 2007 tour. 'Transmission' is no exception. It bears the soul of the original, yet gets lifted to entire new realms of incomprehensible, spine-crushing rock-awesomeness. The intro riff alone raises the hair on the back of my neck-every single time I hear it. This song does not tire.
awesome version. the smashing pumpkins and joy division are both enormously talented and influential bands. love what SP's done with this. sure, it's basically just a late-90's industrial rock jam with contrasting dynamics with ian curtis' lyrics thrown in, but it's cool to see the message and power of the original being expanded beyond just the lyrics into the music itself. ian's words, dancing (and suicide) shed a dark perspective on JD's music, and it's awesome to see SP take the whole package and transform it into something else, through and through. not a cover, but a loose interpretation. also, this was during the adore tour. during this period the smashing pumpkins adopted an "industrial-gothic" look. their music got the same makeover. That sort of simultaneous hollow, modernist coldness mixed with rage and mosh-worthy energy is the sound that joy division was known for. of course they're not the same, but they're more similar than you think, and while you are most certainly entitled to your opinion, this is something to take into account just in case you are merely suffering from a case of "the original is better". in fact, the two are incomparable. i bet if this was a pumpkins song instead of a cover then the JD fans here would appreciate it a lot more. from: a fan of both bands.
CXMusicProductions It's quite interesting really. While in JD the lead singer (Ian) died, the band moved on and eventually became New Order, in SP every member left except for Billy, the lead singer. It's quite a contrast, but they're both great groups (even though I personally prefer JD and NO)
People are too defensive, every cover I watch, the comments are full of people hating the cover. I know when you love a song it`s hard to listen to another band covering it but in a way I think that`s the magic of music covers, it`s the artist take on the song, the original music is altered by the covering band way of playing and that creates a new way o enjoy and see the original song. In my opinion in every case, the original version of the song is the best one, but I respect the covers and really like some of them
Well, it's how the tunes are being covered in jazz for decades. You use the original chords and melodies and alter them until they become your own compositions. OK, sometimes they really do end up being just an unrecognizable mess, but there are many marvelous interpretations of tunes that aren't predictable tone by tone revisions of original. And in my opinion, Smashing Pumpkins did a really great job with this cover.
I put it down to identity. If a cover has an identity as well as an interpretation then it is worthwhile. I have a whole playlist on spotify dedicated to that called Proper Cover Versions. There’s too many slowed down and sensitive covers these days that are just downright horseshit
I mean, it's less "cover" and more "jam session homage to Joy Division", it's not awful. They're just doing their own take on the song. If you don't allow for creativity and a shift in perception of something, how can you like Joy Division in the first place? Although I can see why people wouldn't like the song if they just don't like Smashing Pumpkins' style I suppose.
This was such an incredible extension of the song OMG. Huge Joy Division fan AND huge Smashing Pumpkins fan…I think it's awesome that they paid tribute to such an influence, but they really did the pumpkin's thing and ran with it. Beautiful. I think Ian would have loved it. He would have been proud. That's what matters. Great performance and tribute from one genius to another. LOVE IT.
This is one of my favorite live perfomance of Smashing Pumpkins! Transmission a cover of Joy Division, they look so elegant so avantgarde, so noisy, like the texture of the sound and there's is a lot of good takes.
Great performance. The energy really comes through. The crowd was very engaged. And I love the way the footage was shot. The cinematographers did a bang up job on this.
It seems that a lot of people hate on this rendition of the song, and I can understand it. This version only barely resembles the original, and that's entirely by design and goes by and large to highlight the subjectivity of music; are they supposed to sound identical to the original? No. That's what made them an "alternative" band; they're unconventional in sound, and performing a song that's unconventional to begin with. Billy's unique voice tends to work best in these ballads built of hazy, layered and manic riffs, as opposed to anything resembling a straightforward folk repose. This is not Joy Division, part two. This is the Smashing Pumpkins taking a Joy Division song and utilizing it as a jumping-off point to stir their own pot and explore the unbalanced angst that they've long since dropped off. Subjectivity at it's finest, and for whatever reason, I actually prefer this one to the original.
Just heard this cover (or a similar one) on the Adore reissue. This is what a great cover is all about, in my opinion. Take a great song, and make it your own. LOVE the Joy Division version. I didn't even realize this was a cover until the lyrics kicked in. Great interpretation by the Pumpkins.
I think everyone who doesn't like this video and cover is not a musician. For me this is the most important thing of making music. Everybody has it's own interpretation of music and it's great to see how SP put all their creativity in this cover and honor Joy Division with this performance.
Im a big JD fan, but i have to say, this is pretty good. In my humble opinion, I think IC would've approved. Hauntingly seductive...just like JD was. RIP IC we still miss you mate!
in their own way this was perfect, none of bands nowdays are/will so emotionall musicians like SP and BC are...and it's good to know that this is only a part of it, 'cause every time at the '98-tour they ended with this cover and it was almost 20 minutes long!
When a band 'covers' a song- they do it in their own style - their own interpretation - i'm sure ian curtis would have loved to hear a Country and Western 'cover' of this. Even New order said ' we're not Joy Division (now) so F off.... '
la definición de "cover" no es que sea igual a la original, aweonaos está bien lo que hicieron los smashing, porque es un cover, que no les guste es otra cosa
I'm neither here nor there when it comes to the SP but I do applaud the totally different take on this classic song. Well done! If you want it to sound like Joy Division, then cut to the chase and listen to Joy Division. Imagine who lame it would have been if The Clash had made their Brand New Cadillac sound like Vince Taylor? If you wanna hear a really great interpretation of a classic song... check out XTC covering All Along The Watchtower. That's how you make a song your own! Peace.
this is great! Absolutely love it! And as "shopliftersUnite" said- its a great interpretation of a great song & yes very pumpkins but thats what makes it so unique! There are many straight-up covers of the JD original and none of them can even touch what Joy Division had. so its nice just to see a really amazing interpretation instead!! :) xxx
Strange people who dislike covers but listen these covers just for saying that they hate covers... they got a lot of time to waste. For me this is what I wait for a cover, another interprétation of the song, not a duplicate of the original.
Micah Newman that's why it's good. A cover that sounds like the original... is useless as there's nothing better than the original. So a creative cover is better.
+Barbie Chêtif On the other side of that coin, when it's as far from the original as this it's not a cover anymore, it's an original. Not to mention somewhat meandering, incoherent, self-indulgent and boring as in this case.
Joy Division were creative, John Coltrane was creative, Jimi Hendrix was creative, Kurt Cobain was creative...Corgan holds a note, steps on a delay pedal, makes a "tortured" face...nope. Sorry. This is noise for noise's sake.
I remember seing this show on mtv in the late 90's, guess it was in Ireland or Northern Ireland, not sure really, just in the midst of the peace process cause I also remembered Billy Corgan making a comment about it; but what I also remembered this concert was by this ending, and what an ending! With this cover which if it wasn't for the lyrics I wouln't really realized it was a Joy Division song. Not a ressembling cover at all, is just a Joy Division song with a Smashing Pumpkins twist, but a very gorgeous one just like when the Smashing Pumpkins mean to do so...
Quite different from the Joy Division original, and an excellent cover for it. Other covers of Joy Division songs seem to be trying to outdo the original in some way or another-harder, louder, gloomier, etc-and all pretty much fail because of it. Nope, you can't outdo Ian Curtis and Joy Division's original, so don't even try. Instead, find a *personal* take of your own on the music and lyrics and build from that.
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As a joy division and new order fan i feel touched when anyone, but in particular, established artists choose to interpret, personalise and perform their music. Ian has gone but he still inspires generations and will do forever.I will be sad when people stop covering their songs.
Search for "If Joy Divison wrote 1979 by The Smashing Pumpkins" here in TH-cam. th-cam.com/video/mZyuKVGoM3A/w-d-xo.html
im just a kid with a dream and one day i hope to be able to cover their songs with my own little band!
Me too.I almost like this version more than the new ones they do with Peter Hook joining the Smashing Pumpkins on stage to play Transmission. And now Hookie's son Jack is the bassist for The Smashing Pumpkins!It is awesome to see father and son on stage/an original musician play the song live.But this performance is more abstract and dreamy and was done during the height of their fame,and creativity. And with another amazing lineup. It's a an amazing tribute.
I'm no smashing pumpkins fan I'm a huge joy division fan but I like them doing it their way - that's what music is all about.
That's what a true cover is.
perfectly said............thank you so very much.......
yep.....that's what it is.....i'm a massive joy division.....gotta say, i like this just as much.....really fuckin' good
excellent cover as Billy is a huge fan and toured with New Order
ToPayIsToFail me too
There's never a reason to perform a cover just like the original band, this is a perfect example of doing a cover right.
Totally disagree.
C.
I swear I have never heard anyone do to covers what Billy pulls off. For live performances, he will reinterpret his 'own' freaking songs in ways that somehow transcend the original recording-i.e. "Shame" during the 2007 tour. 'Transmission' is no exception. It bears the soul of the original, yet gets lifted to entire new realms of incomprehensible, spine-crushing rock-awesomeness. The intro riff alone raises the hair on the back of my neck-every single time I hear it. This song does not tire.
awesome version. the smashing pumpkins and joy division are both enormously talented and influential bands. love what SP's done with this. sure, it's basically just a late-90's industrial rock jam with contrasting dynamics with ian curtis' lyrics thrown in, but it's cool to see the message and power of the original being expanded beyond just the lyrics into the music itself. ian's words, dancing (and suicide) shed a dark perspective on JD's music, and it's awesome to see SP take the whole package and transform it into something else, through and through. not a cover, but a loose interpretation.
also, this was during the adore tour. during this period the smashing pumpkins adopted an "industrial-gothic" look. their music got the same makeover. That sort of simultaneous hollow, modernist coldness mixed with rage and mosh-worthy energy is the sound that joy division was known for. of course they're not the same, but they're more similar than you think, and while you are most certainly entitled to your opinion, this is something to take into account just in case you are merely suffering from a case of "the original is better". in fact, the two are incomparable. i bet if this was a pumpkins song instead of a cover then the JD fans here would appreciate it a lot more.
from: a fan of both bands.
CXMusicProductions It's quite interesting really. While in JD the lead singer (Ian) died, the band moved on and eventually became New Order, in SP every member left except for Billy, the lead singer. It's quite a contrast, but they're both great groups (even though I personally prefer JD and NO)
Good smashing
I love hearing how bands interpret their own sounds into joy division. This is a perfect example
I really don't get why people think this is so bad. It's beautiful.
People are too defensive, every cover I watch, the comments are full of people hating the cover. I know when you love a song it`s hard to listen to another band covering it but in a way I think that`s the magic of music covers, it`s the artist take on the song, the original music is altered by the covering band way of playing and that creates a new way o enjoy and see the original song. In my opinion in every case, the original version of the song is the best one, but I respect the covers and really like some of them
Well, it's how the tunes are being covered in jazz for decades. You use the original chords and melodies and alter them until they become your own compositions. OK, sometimes they really do end up being just an unrecognizable mess, but there are many marvelous interpretations of tunes that aren't predictable tone by tone revisions of original. And in my opinion, Smashing Pumpkins did a really great job with this cover.
Bro, people are not defensive. People are just fucking stupid.
I put it down to identity. If a cover has an identity as well as an interpretation then it is worthwhile. I have a whole playlist on spotify dedicated to that called Proper Cover Versions. There’s too many slowed down and sensitive covers these days that are just downright horseshit
More of an interpretation than a straight up cover. Take it for what it is, don't expect the resurrection of Ian Curtis and it's fucking amazing.
I mean, it's less "cover" and more "jam session homage to Joy Division", it's not awful. They're just doing their own take on the song. If you don't allow for creativity and a shift in perception of something, how can you like Joy Division in the first place? Although I can see why people wouldn't like the song if they just don't like Smashing Pumpkins' style I suppose.
Bcs if this want be Ian Curtis then Smashing Pumpkins and more others good band doesnt exist really Ian change everything
Adding their style
On it
This was such an incredible extension of the song OMG. Huge Joy Division fan AND huge Smashing Pumpkins fan…I think it's awesome that they paid tribute to such an influence, but they really did the pumpkin's thing and ran with it. Beautiful. I think Ian would have loved it. He would have been proud. That's what matters. Great performance and tribute from one genius to another. LOVE IT.
This is one of my favorite live perfomance of Smashing Pumpkins! Transmission a cover of Joy Division, they look so elegant so avantgarde, so noisy, like the texture of the sound and there's is a lot of good takes.
I didn't know Joe Satriani was such a good drummer
Kenny Aranoff stood in while JC was fired
Great performance. The energy really comes through. The crowd was very engaged. And I love the way the footage was shot. The cinematographers did a bang up job on this.
Awesome! I love the Adore album and everything I've seen of the Adore tour!!
It seems that a lot of people hate on this rendition of the song, and I can understand it. This version only barely resembles the original, and that's entirely by design and goes by and large to highlight the subjectivity of music; are they supposed to sound identical to the original? No. That's what made them an "alternative" band; they're unconventional in sound, and performing a song that's unconventional to begin with. Billy's unique voice tends to work best in these ballads built of hazy, layered and manic riffs, as opposed to anything resembling a straightforward folk repose. This is not Joy Division, part two. This is the Smashing Pumpkins taking a Joy Division song and utilizing it as a jumping-off point to stir their own pot and explore the unbalanced angst that they've long since dropped off. Subjectivity at it's finest, and for whatever reason, I actually prefer this one to the original.
Donatello Rafael Yeah I'm a big SP fan And a big Joy fan but this is in no way better than the original.
One of the best best bands, covering a brilliant song, so very fucking beautifully done.
I honestly think it's one of the best covers i ever heard. thx for sharing, i used to have this clip on a tape i lost.
Just heard this cover (or a similar one) on the Adore reissue. This is what a great cover is all about, in my opinion. Take a great song, and make it your own. LOVE the Joy Division version. I didn't even realize this was a cover until the lyrics kicked in. Great interpretation by the Pumpkins.
the Joy Division Version isn't a version...
Zheesh. The Joy Division original. Context, people. Given that Joy Division is one of my favorite bands, I think I know that.
Two of my favourite bands.. wow
i absolutely love this song!!!
love how it sounds
Funny how Hooky's son Jack is now their touring bassist.
One of the best cover I've ever heard!
Listen to it on its own merits. Mindblowing
pretty cool.. like it very much... they played one of my all time favourite songs in their own way, and I admire that
this is absolutely brilliant, great musicians, fantastic interpretation, very pumpkins
Absolutely mental. Love it.
Love it! Great noise !!
This is cool. I like both versions.
this is soooo good.....great version.....
Thanks a lot for the upload! I've been waiting for this for ages.
I think everyone who doesn't like this video and cover is not a musician.
For me this is the most important thing of making music. Everybody has it's own interpretation of music and it's great to see how SP put all their creativity in this cover and honor Joy Division with this performance.
I was front row for this and I loved it all!
Lucky bastard! Rock on!
One of my favorite cover, if not the most beautiful..
Who unlike this video is not a fan and not even know Smashing Pumpkins
no doubt. That's Their style, alternative. I love it!
+Dante Sparda shut the fuck up dante
Im very familiar with the Pumpkins, but you must not be familiar with Joy Division, this cover is a total insult to them.
+Kataquan agreed !
yeah since i've heard this version, completely love it
Love it. SIngers can't copy Curtis' baritone, or JD's brilliant musicianship. It's aversion.
Oh i did a knock on cover of this in a band about 20 years ago, I've been lucky to get with some awesome singers in time.
Um Smashing Pumpkins are more talented than Joy Division.
@@smithfan22 Um, they're not even close, so shut the fuck up.
@@smithfan22 lmao
@@smithfan22 your username sums it up really mate.
Wonderful re-working of an already wonderful track. Hats off to Messrs Corgan and Curtis.
Joy Division or not, this is a banger!
Im a big JD fan, but i have to say, this is pretty good. In my humble opinion, I think IC would've approved. Hauntingly seductive...just like JD was. RIP IC we still miss you mate!
This is a fantastic version, especially played live. I think it works brilliantly
Love it.
Radiohead and Smashing Pumpkins are both big fans of Joy Division.
who the fuck isnt bro
@@sickboy3883 dito dude
Sublime ---Happy Passover.
Over the years I've enjoyed music from both bands. I like this interpretation; it has a haunting quality about it that makes me think of Ian. JB
This has to be one of the best covers of all time
Badass JD cover ! I liked it a lot !
great dynamics
in their own way this was perfect, none of bands nowdays are/will so emotionall musicians like SP and BC are...and it's good to know that this is only a part of it, 'cause every time at the '98-tour they ended with this cover and it was almost 20 minutes long!
It's not really a cover. It's just their own jam with them using the lyrics from Transmission. That's it.
holydrones yea a covet
Who said it was a cover?
kinda like what A Perfect Circle did with Depeche Mode's People Are People
Honestly gives me a Bowie-esque vibe. Love it
It grows and grows and then takes on a new life form.....not a copy but a great sound from SP's.
Spectacularous
Lot of comments on their take on this song. Shifting gears a bit, seeing D’Arcy again...man, I so lusted after her in the 90’s.
joy division still !!! rules
god damn how i love his guitar tone
When a band 'covers' a song- they do it in their own style - their own interpretation - i'm sure ian curtis would have loved to hear a Country and Western 'cover' of this. Even New order said ' we're not Joy Division (now) so F off.... '
Good smashing i think Ian would be Pride
Genius
Another Joy Division cover by Billy Corgan:
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la definición de "cover" no es que sea igual a la original, aweonaos
está bien lo que hicieron los smashing, porque es un cover, que no les guste es otra cosa
Igual mata toda la identidad de la canción de joy division
sí, lo trataron de hacer a lo smashing y no resultó muy bueno jaja
tenes razón
Toa la razón
tienes toda la razón un cover es eso. Y me gusto mucho
Original and creative cover
Do you have the full concert?
"A journey through time" Show !!! Show !!! Show !!!
wow, MTV actually had music on back then.... ;-)
Very cool
Funny how I was 16 back then and totally forgot they performed that rendition.
donde puedo encontrar este recital completo o como lo puedo buscar please help amo esta banda.....
Atmosphere + Transmission))))
I'm neither here nor there when it comes to the SP but I do applaud the totally different take on this classic song. Well done! If you want it to sound like Joy Division, then cut to the chase and listen to Joy Division. Imagine who lame it would have been if The Clash had made their Brand New Cadillac sound like Vince Taylor? If you wanna hear a really great interpretation of a classic song... check out XTC covering All Along The Watchtower. That's how you make a song your own! Peace.
group fantastico
BADASS INTRO
Keep the intensity. Is all. Hats off. ✊
this is great! Absolutely love it! And as "shopliftersUnite" said- its a great interpretation of a great song & yes very pumpkins but thats what makes it so unique! There are many straight-up covers of the JD original and none of them can even touch what Joy Division had. so its nice just to see a really amazing interpretation instead!! :) xxx
man i wish i was there
me too... i have listened to this song over 300 times... so my itunes say haha
Dance Dance Dance To The Radio!
That NYC bike messenger is great at drumming
This is what you get when good musicians play a great song
Idk what you guys are on about. I like it
"Dance, dance, dance to the radio"!
genius
Strange people who dislike covers but listen these covers just for saying that they hate covers... they got a lot of time to waste.
For me this is what I wait for a cover, another interprétation of the song, not a duplicate of the original.
I don't dislike it, but it seems to have very little to do with the original song.
Micah Newman You're right, this is their own 'song' really.
Micah Newman that's why it's good. A cover that sounds like the original... is useless as there's nothing better than the original. So a creative cover is better.
+Barbie Chêtif On the other side of that coin, when it's as far from the original as this it's not a cover anymore, it's an original. Not to mention somewhat meandering, incoherent, self-indulgent and boring as in this case.
If creativity is self indulgent according to you... what a sterile world you live in :(
Joy Division were creative, John Coltrane was creative, Jimi Hendrix was creative, Kurt Cobain was creative...Corgan holds a note, steps on a delay pedal, makes a "tortured" face...nope. Sorry. This is noise for noise's sake.
DANCE DANCE DANCE TO THE RADIO (dammit)
I remember seing this show on mtv in the late 90's, guess it was in Ireland or Northern Ireland, not sure really, just in the midst of the peace process cause I also remembered Billy Corgan making a comment about it; but what I also remembered this concert was by this ending, and what an ending! With this cover which if it wasn't for the lyrics I wouln't really realized it was a Joy Division song. Not a ressembling cover at all, is just a Joy Division song with a Smashing Pumpkins twist, but a very gorgeous one just like when the Smashing Pumpkins mean to do so...
Cool take on the song.
unrecognizable.
Say what you want about the decision to do their own version or whatever
If I was in the crowd i'd've gone fucking nuts
It's still a great jam
this is just sick!!! beyond dark psichodelia.
wooooooow
Man, these guys smashed alot of pumpkins in this part
I guess if you're on some Acid trip, this would sound amazing. I used to run and excercise to JDs TRANSMISSION!! ABSOLUTELY Love the Original!!
Quite different from the Joy Division original, and an excellent cover for it. Other covers of Joy Division songs seem to be trying to outdo the original in some way or another-harder, louder, gloomier, etc-and all pretty much fail because of it. Nope, you can't outdo Ian Curtis and Joy Division's original, so don't even try. Instead, find a *personal* take of your own on the music and lyrics and build from that.
Well put. Might I suggest SP's cover of Depeche Mode - Never Let Me Down, if you haven't heard it.
filmed on toronto unforgetable
Fucking awesome
Right Said Fred on the drums
Wow
This is an invention in corgan´s head triping out
ally g banging them drums