Awesome product, well thought out. Just installed one on my 16. Moved the forks up 7mm. Handling is same as before. Love it. Much more manageable in slow tight terrain. Thank you Altrider
just an update, took the Africa twin on a shot three day trip, and it was a highway ride, and the weather was going to be good and bright for a few days, also with it being in late fall you get to see through the wood land and hedgerows, This is were the Altrider lowering kit, and along with the Adjustable kick stand, becomes a great combination I wanted to rise the height of the bike to look over the hedgerows and so on. and it was so easy to work the two item's make your ride the way you want it. and the clutch arm extender is cool to, and as i have just turned 70 years old its little thing like Altrider product so good. and user friendly.
Hey, thanks for sharing that story - we love to hear things like that! Be sure to all your riding friends, that's how small companies like us get our name out!
well my kit arrived to day and i am so impressed just how well your product is made, but the test will see how it performs on the road, and my kit did not come with lock tight, but i can live with that. Yours Kevin
@kevinhall409 Glad to hear you're so impressed! This has been a popular part, and remember you can pretty easily make an adjustment once it's installed if you're feeling like you want something different. If you purchased direct from AltRider we provide a resealable bottle of thread locker. It's one of the numerous benefits of buying direct, instead of a reseller.
Absolutely - you'll be able to use our all aluminum center stand with a lowered Africa Twin. It'll be just a bit more work to get it on the stand, but I think you'll find it's not bad at all
Hello, how does the handling of the motorcycle change when it is lowered? I'm talking about subjective feelings, for example when handling on the spot, when riding at lower speeds, when riding in a sharp turn...Lowering the bike will reduce the centre of gravity, theoretically we should be able to handle the bike better in turns and also when handling on the spot. How is it in reality? marian🙃
Ya, lowering the bike will increases your confidence in a few ways. One can touch the ground easier, but also the lower center of gravity makes the bike feel easier to manipulate. Just like everything in life, it does come as a compromise. When in significant off-road situations your lowered ground clearance can be an issue. This was the inspiration for our innovation. We make it easy to change the height of your bike - lower it or raise depending on your needs. It can even be a great training aid. Thanks for your support 👍
Will the motorcycle be able to stand easily on the center stand when the chassis is lowered? Will the stand need to be shortened after installing this kit?😕😕😕😕
No need to shorten the center stand. It will take more effort to put the bike on the center stand though. We're working on a aluminum center stand for the Africa Twin and our center stand is easy to put the bike up on it. Even with our T7 lowered it was a snap to get it up on our center stand.
altrider.eu for all our EU friends 👌 Here's the product page: www.altrider.eu/altrider-variable-height-suspension-linkage-for-honda-crf1000l-and-crf1100l-africa-twin-adv-sports/pid/2911/cid/1
I bought one of these. The manufacturing quality looks VERY nice. I'm trying to determine how to interpret the markings on the inserts. In the video, you show putting the 2 small circles forward, then using the REAR bolt holes in order to lower the bike 25 mm. But looking at my inserts, there is NO indication that the rear holes result in 25mm lower! There ARE markings on the inserts indicating the 4 available heights, but the rear hole is NOT labeled -25mm. I know I can just examine the position that the bike's wheel is at using each of the insert positions (via trial and error), but that rather defeats the purpose of having the +/- markings on the inserts. I just don't see a way to visually examine the inserts and determine which way they should be used, without just resorting to trial and error at install time. Am I NUTS?
We are reviewing if we can communicate this more effectively, and clearly we need to… The easiest way is to read the graphic displayed at 5:10 - 5:37 the same graphic is on the product page as well. But there is a legend etched into the inserts also. Look at the inserts and the side that shows 2 dots has +6mm / -25mm. So this means when you line up the 2 dots on the insert with the hash mark on the link the first number is what the front hole on the insert will do, and the second number is what the rear hole will do.
@@AltRiderLLC Thanks very much for the reply! You said: "Look at the inserts and the side that shows 2 dots has +6mm / -25mm. So this means when you line up the 2 dots on the insert with the hash mark on the link, the first number is what the front hole on the insert will do, and the second number is what the rear hole will do." That sentence is all I needed, that clarifies things just fine! Here is where I got confused initially (and why I asked the question): If you look at the video at 5:39, looking at the insert on the right side of the picture, it shows the 2 dots on the left (which would align with the hash mark on the link), and etched on the insert is "+19mm / -12mm". I (erroneously) interpreted that to mean that the front hole was for +19mm and the rear hole was for -12mm. Again, thanks for the clarification! Maybe the descriptive sentence is somewhere in the instructions, but I just couldn't see it.
Further explanation of my confusion: I (erroneously) interpreted the etchings on the inserts to be "positional labels on the holes". You mean the etchings to be "general instructions for how to orient the inserts."
@@AltRiderLLC Here is a suggestion that would have probably eliminated my initial confusion: In the video at 5:39, the insert on the left shows the 2 etched dots next to the -25mm text. If the 2 dots were next to the +6mm instead, then it would have been clearer that when the 2 dots match the hash mark on the link, then the left/front hole corresponds with "+6mm", and the right/rear hole corresponds with "-25mm". Of course, that is just how my silly brain sees things. Maybe we should ask a bunch of other folks what they think. Thanks for your great product support here!
Yes, when you lower you seat height, you also lower your ground clearance. This is why we include options to raise your seat height. It can depend on the type of riding you are doing, but as you gain confidence (even as a shorter person) you can slowly step up your seat height to gain more ground clearance.
We can't possibly answer that definitively, there are too many variables. Your height, inseam, body shape, and posture all play into the answer. However, you can estimate based off Jeremy. Jeremy is 5'10" with a 31 in inseam and he is able to get very close to flat footed with a 19mm rise. There is a total of 34 mm difference (1.3 in) between the lowest setting and highest setting. Since he is very close to flat footed at the highest setting, you can estimate a rough feeling of what it might be 1.3 inches lower at the lowest setting of 25mm
I'm. The short raider. With the short legs. Please please please try to make video about Honda Africa twin automatic gear 1100 you take it extremely low with set and suspension and anther trick please ,, create some solutions and tricks to make extremely low you can make Honda Africa twin seat make video about. Honda Africa twin extremely low seat
The maximum lowering our link offers is 1 in (25mm). You definitely don't need to be tall to ride an Africa Twin, lots of shorter people do, just takes a bit of confidence and the willingness to learn.
@@AltRiderLLC i think the ali amazon lowering links does work so I should Hess yourse will fit to. Smal question are gone make a crashbars for the transalp or not offroad enough?
Unless this lowers the bike a good 5” it’s not great. I’m 6-3 and this bike is ridiculously high even for me. I went to look at one yesterday cause I really wanted it but I couldn’t believe how high it was, I mean, it’s really bad. Honda really limited their audience with this bike. Sure I could ride it, but not flat footed. I love the comfort of cruisers but I grew up on dirt bikes so I now want a multi purpose. I was ready to buy but I sadly had to walk away
We totally hear you, it can certainly be a challenge to learn to deal with height that most adventure bikes have. Getting on an adventure bike is a whole different game compared to other bikes. Of course, Honda and other manufacturers set the bike up high for a reason - primarily to improve it’s off-road capabilities. Adventure bikes have their compromises - they’re not the best at on road use and they’re not the best at off road use, but they’re pretty good at both! The design of the suspension means that you can physically move the seat any lower an inch. One inch doesn’t sound like much, but it can go a long ways in building confidence, or making it just a bit easier to dab your feet on the ground.
First class explanation. Clear, concise & brief.
Thanks for the great compliment, is this a part you're installing?
@AltRiderLLC Yes, I bought the part from you guys. Your explanation makes installation oh so simple. Thanx.
Awesome product, well thought out. Just installed one on my 16. Moved the forks up 7mm. Handling is same as before.
Love it. Much more manageable in slow tight terrain. Thank you Altrider
Glad you like it!
just an update, took the Africa twin on a shot three day trip, and it was a highway ride, and the weather was going to be good and bright for a few days, also with it being in late fall you get to see through the wood land and hedgerows, This is were the Altrider lowering kit, and along with the Adjustable kick stand, becomes a great combination I wanted to rise the height of the bike to look over the hedgerows and so on. and it was so easy to work the two item's make your ride the way you want it. and the clutch arm extender is cool to, and as i have just turned 70 years old its little thing like Altrider product so good. and user friendly.
Hey, thanks for sharing that story - we love to hear things like that! Be sure to all your riding friends, that's how small companies like us get our name out!
I’m very happy with the quality and engineering of the AltRider products I already have on my ‘19 AT. I’ll be ordering this link, thanks!
Great to hear! It's a handy part to have 👍
well my kit arrived to day and i am so impressed just how well your product is made, but the test will see how it performs on the road, and my kit did not come with lock tight, but i can live with that. Yours Kevin
@kevinhall409 Glad to hear you're so impressed! This has been a popular part, and remember you can pretty easily make an adjustment once it's installed if you're feeling like you want something different.
If you purchased direct from AltRider we provide a resealable bottle of thread locker. It's one of the numerous benefits of buying direct, instead of a reseller.
Well I live in the UK, I spent the afternoon fitting your product and I just followed your presentation. Yours Kevin
Excellent ideal with the different ride heights. Just ordered one form revzilla thank you
Hope you enjoy it!
Excelente vídeo amigo. Aqui no Brasil não tem esse acessório disponível. Seria possível você enviar pós correios um kit para mim? Grato
Entre em contato com nossa equipe de suporte ao cliente para obter uma cotação de envio: info@altrider.com
Hello and thanks. I just got my kit for lowering the xl750 for my 5'3 wife. Is your centre stand still useable after dropping down by 25mm?
Absolutely - you'll be able to use our all aluminum center stand with a lowered Africa Twin. It'll be just a bit more work to get it on the stand, but I think you'll find it's not bad at all
Hello, how does the handling of the motorcycle change when it is lowered? I'm talking about subjective feelings, for example when handling on the spot, when riding at lower speeds, when riding in a sharp turn...Lowering the bike will reduce the centre of gravity, theoretically we should be able to handle the bike better in turns and also when handling on the spot. How is it in reality? marian🙃
Ya, lowering the bike will increases your confidence in a few ways. One can touch the ground easier, but also the lower center of gravity makes the bike feel easier to manipulate. Just like everything in life, it does come as a compromise. When in significant off-road situations your lowered ground clearance can be an issue.
This was the inspiration for our innovation. We make it easy to change the height of your bike - lower it or raise depending on your needs. It can even be a great training aid. Thanks for your support 👍
Will this fit my 2022 Africa Twin DCT Adv Sports with electronic suspension. Thx.
Yup!
Fantastic vid. Will this link fit the Honda NT1100 ?, which is supposed to be an Africa twin with road wheels.
We haven't tested that yet, but it would be great to know!
Will the motorcycle be able to stand easily on the center stand when the chassis is lowered? Will the stand need to be shortened after installing this kit?😕😕😕😕
No need to shorten the center stand. It will take more effort to put the bike on the center stand though.
We're working on a aluminum center stand for the Africa Twin and our center stand is easy to put the bike up on it. Even with our T7 lowered it was a snap to get it up on our center stand.
side support must be replaced
With the rear suspension height changing, you would have to do a chain adjustment as well correct?
The change is so negligible you don't need to worry about it. You're not changing the length any, just moving it up or down a small amount
More changes must be made when tuning this kit.
Are you talking about the adjustments to the front suspension? We do go over the basics of it in the video
It is possible to buy that lowering linkage to Greece??? (i can't find it at europe site!!)
altrider.eu for all our EU friends 👌
Here's the product page: www.altrider.eu/altrider-variable-height-suspension-linkage-for-honda-crf1000l-and-crf1100l-africa-twin-adv-sports/pid/2911/cid/1
I bought one of these. The manufacturing quality looks VERY nice.
I'm trying to determine how to interpret the markings on the inserts. In the video, you show putting the 2 small circles forward, then using the REAR bolt holes in order to lower the bike 25 mm. But looking at my inserts, there is NO indication that the rear holes result in 25mm lower! There ARE markings on the inserts indicating the 4 available heights, but the rear hole is NOT labeled -25mm.
I know I can just examine the position that the bike's wheel is at using each of the insert positions (via trial and error), but that rather defeats the purpose of having the +/- markings on the inserts.
I just don't see a way to visually examine the inserts and determine which way they should be used, without just resorting to trial and error at install time.
Am I NUTS?
We are reviewing if we can communicate this more effectively, and clearly we need to…
The easiest way is to read the graphic displayed at 5:10 - 5:37 the same graphic is on the product page as well.
But there is a legend etched into the inserts also. Look at the inserts and the side that shows 2 dots has +6mm / -25mm. So this means when you line up the 2 dots on the insert with the hash mark on the link the first number is what the front hole on the insert will do, and the second number is what the rear hole will do.
@@AltRiderLLC Thanks very much for the reply! You said: "Look at the inserts and the side that shows 2 dots has +6mm / -25mm. So this means when you line up the 2 dots on the insert with the hash mark on the link, the first number is what the front hole on the insert will do, and the second number is what the rear hole will do." That sentence is all I needed, that clarifies things just fine!
Here is where I got confused initially (and why I asked the question): If you look at the video at 5:39, looking at the insert on the right side of the picture, it shows the 2 dots on the left (which would align with the hash mark on the link), and etched on the insert is "+19mm / -12mm". I (erroneously) interpreted that to mean that the front hole was for +19mm and the rear hole was for -12mm.
Again, thanks for the clarification! Maybe the descriptive sentence is somewhere in the instructions, but I just couldn't see it.
Further explanation of my confusion: I (erroneously) interpreted the etchings on the inserts to be "positional labels on the holes". You mean the etchings to be "general instructions for how to orient the inserts."
Glad we got it cleared up 👍
@@AltRiderLLC Here is a suggestion that would have probably eliminated my initial confusion: In the video at 5:39, the insert on the left shows the 2 etched dots next to the -25mm text. If the 2 dots were next to the +6mm instead, then it would have been clearer that when the 2 dots match the hash mark on the link, then the left/front hole corresponds with "+6mm", and the right/rear hole corresponds with "-25mm".
Of course, that is just how my silly brain sees things. Maybe we should ask a bunch of other folks what they think.
Thanks for your great product support here!
After installing the lowering kit .is this reduce the ground clearance ??? Please please reply
Yes, when you lower you seat height, you also lower your ground clearance. This is why we include options to raise your seat height. It can depend on the type of riding you are doing, but as you gain confidence (even as a shorter person) you can slowly step up your seat height to gain more ground clearance.
Im 5'7, can i be flat footed to the lowest seat height of lowering link plus seat adjustment ?
Pls reply...
We can't possibly answer that definitively, there are too many variables. Your height, inseam, body shape, and posture all play into the answer. However, you can estimate based off Jeremy. Jeremy is 5'10" with a 31 in inseam and he is able to get very close to flat footed with a 19mm rise. There is a total of 34 mm difference (1.3 in) between the lowest setting and highest setting. Since he is very close to flat footed at the highest setting, you can estimate a rough feeling of what it might be 1.3 inches lower at the lowest setting of 25mm
In this video is the low seat installed or just the standard seat?
The standard seat is installed
Does this fit africa twin 2024?
Right now it's unconfirmed. We will be confirming firmament in the next few weeks and make an announcement. Contact us if you miss the announcement!
I'm. The short raider. With the short legs. Please please please try to make video about Honda Africa twin automatic gear 1100 you take it extremely low with set and suspension and anther trick please ,, create some solutions and tricks to make extremely low you can make Honda Africa twin seat make video about. Honda Africa twin extremely low seat
I'm short raider. ,,, I'm short raider. I love Honda Africa twin
The maximum lowering our link offers is 1 in (25mm). You definitely don't need to be tall to ride an Africa Twin, lots of shorter people do, just takes a bit of confidence and the willingness to learn.
i gess this alsow fits the transalp 750 ?
We have not been able to verify if it fits or not
@@AltRiderLLC i think the ali amazon lowering links does work so I should Hess yourse will fit to. Smal question are gone make a crashbars for the transalp or not offroad enough?
Right now that's not a bike on our radar for development
@@AltRiderLLC I get that thanls for the feedback! Keep up the great work !
Unless this lowers the bike a good 5” it’s not great. I’m 6-3 and this bike is ridiculously high even for me. I went to look at one yesterday cause I really wanted it but I couldn’t believe how high it was, I mean, it’s really bad. Honda really limited their audience with this bike. Sure I could ride it, but not flat footed. I love the comfort of cruisers but I grew up on dirt bikes so I now want a multi purpose. I was ready to buy but I sadly had to walk away
We totally hear you, it can certainly be a challenge to learn to deal with height that most adventure bikes have. Getting on an adventure bike is a whole different game compared to other bikes.
Of course, Honda and other manufacturers set the bike up high for a reason - primarily to improve it’s off-road capabilities. Adventure bikes have their compromises - they’re not the best at on road use and they’re not the best at off road use, but they’re pretty good at both!
The design of the suspension means that you can physically move the seat any lower an inch. One inch doesn’t sound like much, but it can go a long ways in building confidence, or making it just a bit easier to dab your feet on the ground.