Hi Beez, since I just got the Hawk, I watched this review. The studs issue is one of many reasons why I remove the clips of all knives. They then go deep in the pocket and you have to grab them completely to take them out, avoiding any complication. Quite a different style of videos back in 2021 😊
I believe it's the detent on the knife I received. It happened in every style of pants I wore. BDU's, tighter jeans, loose jeans, etc. I haven't heard anyone else complaining of this issue, so I must have got a bad apple. It happens.
Great review. About to get my first hawk and probably go down the same rabbit hole as i have with the penguin. So many options. And I love that you have let your enthusiasm out in your current vids.
Thank you so much for sharing this. Great review, but also thanks for that note about the thumb studs. This is a perfect example of the difference between someone who pretends to review a knife for views and for money from the industry and someone who actually carries and uses a product before reviewing it. Keep it up.
You are welcome. I've learned a lot since then, and the lack of detent plays a big role in why it opens so easy. I haven't heard anyone else mentioning this, so mine may have just been a bad apple.
This knife is a bit heavier than you would expect for it's build and size. Unfortunately they didn't mill out the liners. The detent on mine is pretty good.
Just catching up now with this one; had to get mine out to check the detent. I have this same variant, but the detent on mine is pretty firm. Maybe try to increase the detent strength with a slight adjustment to the lockbar? However, that doesn't entirely eliminate the problem with the studs catching the pocket seam on the way out. This happens with many other pocket knives, as well, depending on the thumb-stud configuration and/or shape, and is particularly a problem when they extend past the scale or have been milled to increase purchasability. I call it the non-Emerson misfire, and it can cost one some blood. This is why I generally carry my knives in a pouch, even ones with clips, either in my pocket or attached to my belt (excluding quick-access knives). At least limit your quick-access clipped-to-the-pocket knives to ones without the issue. There are a number of other reasons to do so, as well, if you are allowed to carry concealed like that. Clips can sometimes catch on surfaces and rip the knife from your pocket, or scratch automobiles and other surfaces (or your knife) when leaning in too closely. It also extends the wear of the knife and clip and preserves the finished look dramatically. Not to mention, as an enthusiast, if one carries multiple knives, clippable space become limited. In any case, the Hawk gets a pass from me here 'cause I just love it otherwise! Great vid, Beez, thanks a year later!
Thank you for the insight! It sounds like the main problem with mine is the lack of detent whatsoever. I've talked to scores of other people that did not have the same problem. There will always be a lemon in the bunch. I wasn't able to strengthen the detent enough to make a difference with this one. The pouch is a great idea, specially for the nicer knives in which I want to preserve the aesthetics. It's funny, since I carry multiple knives I have learned to steer my hip clear of cars, doors and wall edges hahaha. Thanks again!
I am a skinny guy with skinny fingers, and for me, that is NOT a finger choil. When I put my finger in it, about 1/8” of it is ON THE BLADE! I wouldn’t (usually) use it that way. Detents can definitely be too strong. It’s bad either way! Too weak or too strong is never good enough. BTW, I LOVE the dumbell shaped thumb studs! These can be used like an Emerson Wave… I also like the way they look, like the eyes on an Ancient American Birdstone I have. Spectacular! Definitely not a deal-breaker, though it may contribute to efforts by the legal community to prohibit folding knives that “can be opened to a full-lock position,” a function which is prohibited in Massachusetts. I have, BTW (and by accident) 2 copies, both with raindrop Damascus AND raindrop CF. I LOVE these knives!
It's an awesome knife, I just have to do something about the thumb studs. Either file the inside of the studs so they don't grip the pocket, or find replacements. I'm glad the video helped.
I really dislike weak detents. I can handle a slightly stronger detent but a weak one really kills it for me. Appreciate you calling out the Hawks thumb studs catching on your pocket. The price of this knife is too similar to Civivi to have these kind of flaws if they want to be competitive.
Great review. I was thinking about getting the Hawk in the Verawood S35VN or the Carbon fiber S35VN. I like just about everything about it. The snagging on that pants and opening would suck, especially if you cut yourself...hopefully that wont be an issue. Is there maybe any other knives I should look at instead???
Mine don't snag on my pants, I really enjoy this knife. I also own 8 of the 9 versions. The only thing I'm upset about this knife is the T6 screws.Thanks and take care.
I have this exact version of this knife. I love the look and feel of this pocket knife. The weak detent is the downfall of this model. And its a shame. I have not had the problem of the blade deploying while pulling it out of my pocket. But I wear almost exclusively cargo pants and hardly ever jeans. Perhaps in pants with less room in the pocket it would be a problem.
TopDog! I haven't heard of anyone else having this issue with the Hawk. I think mine is possibly a bad example of the knife because it has virtually no detent. One of these days I'll get another one when they go on sale so I can compare. I love everything else about this one though. It checks all the boxes!
Over the last couple of years, many people have told me that they haven't had that issue. My best guess is that I got a bad one and didn't have the knowledge to return it for another.
Interesting issue. I suppose it mainly occurs when the blade is pushed all the way to the corner of the pocket. A knife that snags isn't a deal breaker, but one that regularly deploys when I don't want it to absolutely is. After seeing this I certainly wouldn't trust it in my pocket. Good thing I saw your video, because I was contemplating this exact version for the beautiful micarta.
That micarta looks to be of decent quality. I dont have any burlap in my collection. If anyone is still seeing this, can you say at all how it compares to like the smkw exclusive burlap or knife centers on the Feldspar and Crag? Buck sprint? Any insite is appreciated.
It's a shame that two small issues, that on their own probably wouldn't be that significant, combined to ruin your enjoyment of the knife. Since you can't do much to increase the detent strength (at least not to my knowledge), I would consider either swapping out the thumbstuds or taking the stock studs and grinding down the profile so it doesn't flare out so much to the point of snagging on your pocket.
I just went and took a quick look at the studs on my QSP Penguin and they're cylindrical in profile with a stepped conical tip. If QSP had only used those studs instead of the hour glass shaped studs, I don't think you would have ended up cutting your finger. It might be worth calling up QSP and seeing if they could send you a set of the Penguin's studs to use on the Hawk.
@Just in I haven't heard of anyone else having this issue, and I'm pretty sure it's just because mine has little-to-no detent. Had I had a little more knowledge back then, I would have returned and replaced it. I already Know I would love one with a "regular" detent. Thank you brother!
Mine doesn't accidentally deploy. Mine has what appears to be a much stronger detent than yours does 🤷♂️ I can however excessively drag the knife against my pocket and catch the thumbstuds. Sort of like a make-shift Emerson wave or like you mentioned the old spydie hole zip tie trick
Great knife worth every penny! Razor sharp right out the box. Me personally logo being placed slightly uneven is not a deal breaker by any means given how much knife you get for the money.
that's the reason I don't like thumbstuds. that and I have schredded my knuckles getting other things from my pockets with stud knives. as for weak detents. I had a buck sprint that cam open in my pocket and I cut 4 fingers on it. the only good thing about that was I was lucky and it was the top layer of skin on all 4 so no blood. but as much as I liked that knife I stopped carrying it. I just wish all frn scales were like that .
The issue with this particular knife is the lack of detent, more than anything. I was not able to get the studs out, and have not tried in a long time. I am considering getting another one to see if it was just this knife. From what I've heard from many others with this knife, I just happened to get a dud. Knowing what I know now, I should have sent it back and got another one. Thank you Kim!
For the issue pulling the knife out of your pocket… why don’t you just not slide is so slam up against your seam?? An easy solution for a very avoidable problem. I see what you mean, but come on. ;-}. I LOVE your content and reviews, by the way. Keep up the great work! MM
I haven't heard anyone else say anything about it, but it has happened to me in jeans, and cargo pants with no buttons. It may very well just be my knife and not the norm...I'm not sure.
Your jeans pockets look like they have an extra fold there near the rivet that caught the thumb stud. Might be just your pants combined with the studs that = accidental deployment. I don't have any jeans that have rivets, I should be safe.
I've never really got the hype of qsp or civivi I've had at least 6-8 of each brand and I've found them all boring and in some cases over priced in civivis case but mostly just boring af.
Detent wouldn't be an option if I could not tighten it. I SHARPEN TO SHARP TO NOT KNOW IM PULLING OUT A RAZOR SO BE CAREFUL . HAVE A SHARP DAY. DEJA VU SWEAR I SEEN THIS DAYS AGO BUT LIKES I NEVER MISS LIKES NEVER OR COMMENTS LOL
Agreed ID. As much as I like the knife, I am not going to carry it until I remove or replace the studs. If I come up with a fix, I will post a short update video.
Eww u did cut yourself once . Now either you did another video exactly like this or I dream good or my likes disappear which I been thinking because I always LIKE TWICE and surely seen most your videos .even if I only a year subbed I seen a ton. And I NO U NO 😂
Hi Beez, since I just got the Hawk, I watched this review. The studs issue is one of many reasons why I remove the clips of all knives. They then go deep in the pocket and you have to grab them completely to take them out, avoiding any complication. Quite a different style of videos back in 2021 😊
people are judging the knife based on one guy with a certain pair of jeans . I carry this knife alot and never seen any issues like this .
I believe it's the detent on the knife I received. It happened in every style of pants I wore. BDU's, tighter jeans, loose jeans, etc. I haven't heard anyone else complaining of this issue, so I must have got a bad apple. It happens.
Late to the party, but have been carrying this knife for months and have never had a single snag, regardless of the pants I wear. Great design.
Thank you! It's confirmed. It's me, or I need to adjust the detent! Thanks again for chiming in and watching.
Great review. About to get my first hawk and probably go down the same rabbit hole as i have with the penguin. So many options. And I love that you have let your enthusiasm out in your current vids.
Thank you so much for sharing this. Great review, but also thanks for that note about the thumb studs. This is a perfect example of the difference between someone who pretends to review a knife for views and for money from the industry and someone who actually carries and uses a product before reviewing it. Keep it up.
You are welcome Jon. As excited as I am about knives, I try to keep an open mind and make sure I share the not-so-good aspect's of them.
just did my first...and probably last...knife mod. Removed the studs from my blue denim micarta Hawk. I love it even more now. Thanks for the video.
That's weird thanks, you're the only reviewer to mention this problem.
Maybe it was just mine 🤷
You've got to call it like you see it. Thanks
Thanks for posting that stud issue, I really appreciate it!
You are welcome. I've learned a lot since then, and the lack of detent plays a big role in why it opens so easy. I haven't heard anyone else mentioning this, so mine may have just been a bad apple.
This knife is a bit heavier than you would expect for it's build and size. Unfortunately they didn't mill out the liners. The detent on mine is pretty good.
Thanks for pointing out this issue, I hate it when knives deploy when they're not supposed to.
Just catching up now with this one; had to get mine out to check the detent. I have this same variant, but the detent on mine is pretty firm. Maybe try to increase the detent strength with a slight adjustment to the lockbar? However, that doesn't entirely eliminate the problem with the studs catching the pocket seam on the way out. This happens with many other pocket knives, as well, depending on the thumb-stud configuration and/or shape, and is particularly a problem when they extend past the scale or have been milled to increase purchasability. I call it the non-Emerson misfire, and it can cost one some blood. This is why I generally carry my knives in a pouch, even ones with clips, either in my pocket or attached to my belt (excluding quick-access knives). At least limit your quick-access clipped-to-the-pocket knives to ones without the issue. There are a number of other reasons to do so, as well, if you are allowed to carry concealed like that. Clips can sometimes catch on surfaces and rip the knife from your pocket, or scratch automobiles and other surfaces (or your knife) when leaning in too closely. It also extends the wear of the knife and clip and preserves the finished look dramatically. Not to mention, as an enthusiast, if one carries multiple knives, clippable space become limited. In any case, the Hawk gets a pass from me here 'cause I just love it otherwise! Great vid, Beez, thanks a year later!
Thank you for the insight! It sounds like the main problem with mine is the lack of detent whatsoever. I've talked to scores of other people that did not have the same problem. There will always be a lemon in the bunch. I wasn't able to strengthen the detent enough to make a difference with this one.
The pouch is a great idea, specially for the nicer knives in which I want to preserve the aesthetics. It's funny, since I carry multiple knives I have learned to steer my hip clear of cars, doors and wall edges hahaha.
Thanks again!
Thats a gr8 point about the thumb studs. My detent is strong but still something to keep in mind.
I am a skinny guy with skinny fingers, and for me, that is NOT a finger choil. When I put my finger in it, about 1/8” of it is ON THE BLADE! I wouldn’t (usually) use it that way. Detents can definitely be too strong. It’s bad either way! Too weak or too strong is never good enough. BTW, I LOVE the dumbell shaped thumb studs! These can be used like an Emerson Wave… I also like the way they look, like the eyes on an Ancient American Birdstone I have. Spectacular! Definitely not a deal-breaker, though it may contribute to efforts by the legal community to prohibit folding knives that “can be opened to a full-lock position,” a function which is prohibited in Massachusetts. I have, BTW (and by accident) 2 copies, both with raindrop Damascus AND raindrop CF. I LOVE these knives!
Can't wait to see the new stuff that you have coming! Happy Easter!
Super busy working Easter for me Jason. Thank you and I hope yours was a good one. I have all kinds of goodies on the way!
I really like this micarta on this. Little 'imperfections' in it, as seen here, I feel lend extra character to the piece.
53.10 for that color all other color on Amazon is basically 55 . Which I must be off because BROWN ONE IS BUUUUUTIFULLL . GREAT VIDEO
I really like this knife and am considering getting this instead of the kicker. This is only $10 more and I won't have to worry about rust.
Thanks for the heads up. I was looking hard at this knife but don't want it.
It's an awesome knife, I just have to do something about the thumb studs. Either file the inside of the studs so they don't grip the pocket, or find replacements. I'm glad the video helped.
Thanks for your thoroughness and honesty.
Pull out of pocket with a small lanyard. For some reason, lanyards always make me pull a knife directly up. 👍
I really dislike weak detents. I can handle a slightly stronger detent but a weak one really kills it for me. Appreciate you calling out the Hawks thumb studs catching on your pocket. The price of this knife is too similar to Civivi to have these kind of flaws if they want to be competitive.
I'm just giving my experience. I haven't heard of others having the problem, but that's what I got. You are welcome, and Thank You!
Great review. I was thinking about getting the Hawk in the Verawood S35VN or the Carbon fiber S35VN. I like just about everything about it. The snagging on that pants and opening would suck, especially if you cut yourself...hopefully that wont be an issue. Is there maybe any other knives I should look at instead???
Mine don't snag on my pants, I really enjoy this knife. I also own 8 of the 9 versions. The only thing I'm upset about this knife is the T6 screws.Thanks and take care.
This wasn't what I was expecting to be the issue. Pocket problems are never a deal breaker for me. Lol
I have this exact version of this knife. I love the look and feel of this pocket knife. The weak detent is the downfall of this model. And its a shame. I have not had the problem of the blade deploying while pulling it out of my pocket. But I wear almost exclusively cargo pants and hardly ever jeans. Perhaps in pants with less room in the pocket it would be a problem.
TopDog! I haven't heard of anyone else having this issue with the Hawk. I think mine is possibly a bad example of the knife because it has virtually no detent. One of these days I'll get another one when they go on sale so I can compare. I love everything else about this one though. It checks all the boxes!
The thumb studs issue put me off, unfortunately
Over the last couple of years, many people have told me that they haven't had that issue. My best guess is that I got a bad one and didn't have the knowledge to return it for another.
Interesting issue. I suppose it mainly occurs when the blade is pushed all the way to the corner of the pocket. A knife that snags isn't a deal breaker, but one that regularly deploys when I don't want it to absolutely is. After seeing this I certainly wouldn't trust it in my pocket. Good thing I saw your video, because I was contemplating this exact version for the beautiful micarta.
Who knows, maybe because I wear more loose fitting jeans🤷
That micarta looks to be of decent quality. I dont have any burlap in my collection. If anyone is still seeing this, can you say at all how it compares to like the smkw exclusive burlap or knife centers on the Feldspar and Crag? Buck sprint? Any insite is appreciated.
Other then the thumb stud issue it looks like a good knife. Can’t wait to see what ya think of the Riffle! I love mine!
I do like it. My review of the Riffle is posted. Thanks for stopping in!
@@BeezBlades I will check it out! Thanks!
It's a shame that two small issues, that on their own probably wouldn't be that significant, combined to ruin your enjoyment of the knife. Since you can't do much to increase the detent strength (at least not to my knowledge), I would consider either swapping out the thumbstuds or taking the stock studs and grinding down the profile so it doesn't flare out so much to the point of snagging on your pocket.
I just went and took a quick look at the studs on my QSP Penguin and they're cylindrical in profile with a stepped conical tip. If QSP had only used those studs instead of the hour glass shaped studs, I don't think you would have ended up cutting your finger. It might be worth calling up QSP and seeing if they could send you a set of the Penguin's studs to use on the Hawk.
@Just in I haven't heard of anyone else having this issue, and I'm pretty sure it's just because mine has little-to-no detent. Had I had a little more knowledge back then, I would have returned and replaced it. I already Know I would love one with a "regular" detent. Thank you brother!
Well you know me I never stop at one comment. . Going to CK see if price changes brb 😂
Mine doesn't accidentally deploy. Mine has what appears to be a much stronger detent than yours does 🤷♂️ I can however excessively drag the knife against my pocket and catch the thumbstuds. Sort of like a make-shift Emerson wave or like you mentioned the old spydie hole zip tie trick
I just ended up with one that has a very weak detent. I really like the knife otherwise.
Great knife worth every penny!
Razor sharp right out the box.
Me personally logo being placed slightly uneven is not a deal breaker by any means given how much knife you get for the money.
Oh for sure! It's pretty sweet!
This is a cool ass knife. I like flickers that don’t have a spring I them. Minimal.
Nice knife, but a definite problem. If you could take the stud off the left hand side... But then you couldn't Spydie flick it.
that's the reason I don't like thumbstuds.
that and I have schredded my knuckles getting other things from my pockets with stud knives.
as for weak detents. I had a buck sprint that cam open in my pocket and I cut 4 fingers on it. the only good thing about that was I was lucky and it was the top layer of skin on all 4 so no blood. but as much as I liked that knife I stopped carrying it. I just wish all frn scales were like that .
Would a lanyard loop help stop that opening issue? I don't like the studs either. Let me know if you swap them out.
The issue with this particular knife is the lack of detent, more than anything. I was not able to get the studs out, and have not tried in a long time. I am considering getting another one to see if it was just this knife. From what I've heard from many others with this knife, I just happened to get a dud. Knowing what I know now, I should have sent it back and got another one.
Thank you Kim!
For the issue pulling the knife out of your pocket… why don’t you just not slide is so slam up against your seam?? An easy solution for a very avoidable problem. I see what you mean, but come on. ;-}. I LOVE your content and reviews, by the way. Keep up the great work! MM
Do jeans without buttons all around the pocket, still do the same thing?
I haven't heard anyone else say anything about it, but it has happened to me in jeans, and cargo pants with no buttons. It may very well just be my knife and not the norm...I'm not sure.
Or that you shove the knife into the crease of the pocket instead of pulling it out like everyone else
No link. Gotta go further brb
Your jeans pockets look like they have an extra fold there near the rivet that caught the thumb stud.
Might be just your pants combined with the studs that = accidental deployment.
I don't have any jeans that have rivets, I should be safe.
Go for it. The action is impeccable 👌
I want one of these soon, can the studs come off
I'm sure they will. My first attempts failed. When I get a chance, I'm going to contact QSP and get their advise.
Know your knives…be safe…a good knife is a good knife.
I think the spot is my dealbreaker. lol thank you for the review. Honest and to the point. Cons @ 13:45
Ha! You're welcome Joe.
Following your instagram :)
Very nice. Thank you.
I've never really got the hype of qsp or civivi I've had at least 6-8 of each brand and I've found them all boring and in some cases over priced in civivis case but mostly just boring af.
That is why I sold a Bad Monkey knife and will not own now "waved" knives.
Detent wouldn't be an option if I could not tighten it. I SHARPEN TO SHARP TO NOT KNOW IM PULLING OUT A RAZOR SO BE CAREFUL . HAVE A SHARP DAY. DEJA VU SWEAR I SEEN THIS DAYS AGO BUT LIKES I NEVER MISS LIKES NEVER OR COMMENTS LOL
Deal breaker
Sound like you have a cold or something. But sure is Bentley knife PUUURRRRRFECT Nothing special other than PUUURRRRRFECTION.
I’d stop carrying a knife that snags on my pants. Too many other good knives out there that don’t. Yeah, deal breaker for me
Agreed ID. As much as I like the knife, I am not going to carry it until I remove or replace the studs. If I come up with a fix, I will post a short update video.
@@BeezBlades could try sanding it down
@@allenazimi4408 interesting idea....
Wow. What a problem! I think you may well be overstating the issue there sport. Maybe there is something wrong with your genes 🙂
I believe a super weak detent may be the culprit with my knife. I'm going to strengthen that and see what happens.
Eww u did cut yourself once . Now either you did another video exactly like this or I dream good or my likes disappear which I been thinking because I always LIKE TWICE and surely seen most your videos .even if I only a year subbed I seen a ton. And I NO U NO 😂