One of the things I admire is your criteria deciding the right spot to film and the quantity of lights you’re going to use. I think I always tend to complicate things, and keeping it simple is also art. “There’s only one Sun” always taught me an Italian DP
I love seeing you have the same conversations I often have with people. The same little tips and tricks. Sometimes when I do corporate interviews where they want to speak "off the cuff", I'll have a folding whiteboard stand just in their sightline with all their high level speaking points on it so they don't forget one. Brainstorming and pre-interview preparation are SO important for corporate work.
Great video and very helpful. From the pre-interview conversation (interesting to see how you give them context and set expectations) to the piece by piece guide to your boom mic set up (I'm looking at getting one and switching from lav use). Also really nice final frame for the interview in a space that didn't give a lot of options. Thanks!!
Has the clip with the F22c with overhead already been color-corrected? If so, I prefer the look of just the F22c due to less of a yellow cast. Great video, especially the part where you explain the process to the interviewee.
@@annac3514 With the mixing of light and tiny screens on the camera. It will need correcting in the final edit for sure. Glad you enjoyed the pre interview chat! Thank you!
I agree. I usually eliminate the overhead lighting becase of exactly this. The color with just the key light was so even and consistent and had great color cast.
Love your commitment to the content and wearing a GoPro while interviewing haha. I think i would have flipped the key so that the bookshelf was in the negative space instead of a blown out window. I think a grid would have also helped you here to control spill or at least turning off the overheads so the scene image isnt so flat.
For a corporate interview setup, I think it's already great, but I'm gonna nit pick one little bit, if you could manage to keep the exposure of the window in the background just under clipping, the shot would have looked even better. On another note about placing the F22C so close to your subject, yes in terms of size of the light source to the subject you get that softer wrap around on the subject's face, but with it being so close to your subject, you actually make the light feel quite lit and not as natural. That is because the fall off of the light is stronger than what the environment is providing. So it is a tradeoff you are making if you decide to light this way. If you wanted to make it look more natural, you'd have to back off the light and perhaps shoot it through a larger diffusion or use a light source with a larger lighting surface. As for the overhead lights, I'm not sure about the color rendering quality, if they don't affect skintone too badly, it is still ok to have them on. But I much prefer to have them off and introduce my own ambient and hairlight if needed. However, this takes more time and more equipment to setup, budget and time of the shoot may not allow for such adjustments.
Overhead lights are almost always a big no-no. But I'm more and more surprised of the light quality of the F22C, it's a really solid option for quick, easy and lightweight setups.
Thought: what if you bounced a light off of the ceiling so you could better control the temp? It was a tight space, so I definitely get not doing it. This was 🔥 though. Thanks for sharing your process!!
Great framing and composition. You're getting challenged lately in these small office spaces. I would have blocked the lights above, but with such a small room, it wouldn't be possible. You made it look great! I recently re-purchaced a Sekonic 800-u color meter to check ambient lighting. I have to compare it to Aputure's app light meter. I want to see how they compare.
@@RobRanney I haven't yet. I've been meaning to do so since I saw Peter use the app a few weeks ago. I might give a try over the weekend. I'll post a response here. I'm curious to see how the Sekonic and Aputure app measure both Lux and Temperature.
Thanks, I liked and subd. Helpful BTS vid, good to see and learn from. I'm an experienced stills photographer, but new to video. I liked how you did key light (boomed over desk) I guess you could have also used a small table stand on desk too? I have very similar kit cameras, sound etc (just ordered a F22C light to complement some Amaran 200xS lights). So your approach and insights are good for me in UK. A few questions if I may.... How do you find the Senheisser MKH 416 indoors, in a small reflective space? I see many YT vids talking about secondary sound waves disturbing 'clean' audio and suggesting (much more expensive) MKH 50 indoors. How did you sync 2nd cam (c/u with 85mm) with first cam (50mm) with a direct input (from Zoom F3 output). Is it just onboard mike for a rough scratch track? Have you any views on merit of timecode with multi cam work? I have a Sony lav kit - good for direct input to a7iv or FX3, but wondering about Deity TC1 clocks with a Deity Theos and maybe a Sound Devices MixPre - but metaphorically I need to learn to walk before trying to run. So I need to practice, review, learn and practice some more. When interviewing subjects, typically how often do you need to do a repeat of a question(s) to get better context or response? To what extent does repetition of question(s) start looking and sounding 'dead' or 'faked' and lacking spontaneity? Appreciate any insights and tip using Sidus lighting app to read CT.
Fantastic videos.. I recently got a set of F22c’s, but the fan noise is incredibly loud and i'm considering returning them. I noticed on your setup you have the control unit placed right next to the desk. Are you experiencing the same issue? If so, do you find yourself cleaning up the audio in post?
Love the content! Why wouldn't you have brought one more light, turned the overheads off, and then bounced that second light off the ceiling for some fill?
One more light, leads to two more lights. Then three more lights and soon enough you have as 30 person crew with 6 days of filming. Less is more with these smaller budget projects. I have learned to set boundaries. Just because I own the gear, it does not mean the clients get it for free. I often travel for these shoots, so one more light means one more stand, one more sand bad and possibly one more stinger.
Thanks for the video. Any reason you were adjusting the F22c by hand rather than through the Sidus Link app? Also, how's fan noise on the F22c these days; not an issue for you?
@@JimFeeley I would need to jump around the app too much. I have had great success with fan noise not causing issues. If you expect complete silence, you are never going to be happy.
I just got a basic one off Amazon. Will try to look at the link. I never run USB power, since external power often adds hiss. So battery powered is clean.
Thanks for sharing. Great content, as always. Question: line going into the camera from the microphone - it records both on the F3 and the camera? have you ever had problems with the F3?
What reason did you decide to get a a74 to go with your fx6? Instead of paring it with a Fx3 would you say it’s the difference of quality vs the price for a secondary camera?
When you were using your phone to measure something, was it color temperature? I just never saw the numbers you were saying outlaid on the phone view maybe I missed something. Just curious about the process of what you were doing.
Think I might have gone for a left to right eye line and used the glass front shelfs as the BG , instead of the burnt out window . Pulled that blind all the way down . And not have to boom out a key light . Think its better with the room lights off .
Yesss those 240C are fire. After owning one for a few months, I had to go back and get another one. As much as I love Aputure/Amaran, the Nanlite Pavoslim line of lights have been great. My only issue with them are the bi-color models. I have one 120b and it's surprising how much red exists at 4400k. It doesn't have a magenta correction. lol, I just reminded myself that we spoke about this in another video. Having Godox, Aputure and Nanlite lights and all the apps we use to make are sets work.
The pavo slims are AWESOME. I like the Amarans, but if you can afford the pavo slims they are definitely superior. I just got off a feature where we had a 120c and honestly wished we had three more.
@@12yfilms Yeah ... I was trying to not get into another ecosystem, but someone mentioned Pavoslims somewhere and I want them bad :D. I have to live with 3 apps, or invest into Aputure Sidus Pro. I'm thinking 1*240C and 2*120Cs :D. What's nice about 120C is you can join them into 2x2 or 4x1, but I think you still have to operate them separately, which is sometimes actually good :D. 240C is almost 4 times more powerful that 22c :o
@@12yfilms Yeah. I tried to not buy into Nanlite ecosystem, to avoid having 3rd application on my phone to operate the lights (I have Godox and Aputure already). But Pavoslims look so amazing that I cannot skip them :D. I think I'm going to get 240C first and then 2*120C later. What is good about them that you can connect 2X1s with brackets and create 2x2 or 4x1. You still have to operate them separately (as I understand it) but it might be acutally a pro. And if 3 apps are annoying to use I can invest into Aputure Sidus Pro, and operate everything from 1 place, sad thing is that this app only works on iPad (which I do not own) and it will be probably paid subscription based :(.
Depends if you reliable autofocus. I use Sony cameras and do a lot of interviews and do all them with autofocus. Just use a lower subject sensitivity and set it to Left or Right eye focus, so it stays on the same eye etc. I also shoot with two cameras so if there's ever an issue i can just swap to the other angle - though i've never had an issue.
@@PDMokry Good to know. However, have you never had problems with focus going in and out? focus breathing... I have the 85mm and it seems to be fine in that regard... How about the 50mm 1.2 ? Thank you
@@marcoaslan A7IV has focus breathing compensation ... so no problem there :D. Sad it only works with Sony lenses, so my 55mm Zeiss is breathing a lot :D.
@@JoATTech I think he means the auto focus hunting/pulsing not so much focus breathing from racking focus. but yea Sony has basically the best AF so I would imagine it could be left on. I dont use sony and I typically leave on MF I think but even if it pulses/hunts you could theoretically cut to the other camera or some b-roll too
How to light a small office... "Put 1 softbox in their face, And hope it has 2 windows... Thank you". Really? A hair light through the right window or a ambient UP light behind the chair would have been helpful.
99% of my shoots are in small rooms lol. 🙄I ask hey is your office large enough for you another person and gear? they say yes is huge! then I walk into a shoebox
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Watching PDMokry is one of the great joys of life
@@TolarRay Awesome to hear, my wife agrees!
That client interaction is absolute gold. 🔥
Bro that line going out of your zoom into the camera is a great idea thank you for that so smart!!!!!
I love these "small office" types of videos I definitely have the F22c on my B&H wish list!
Appreciated you including the client interaction. Great information. Another well done behind the scenes. 👍🏻👍🏻
Glad you enjoyed it! I try to drop new information when possible. Thank you for the support!
very detailed, thanks for false color tutorial, and also learned how to talk with testimonial before interview
Your videos are SUPER helpful and informative. I really appreciate how much energy you put into them. Thanks!
One of the things I admire is your criteria deciding the right spot to film and the quantity of lights you’re going to use. I think I always tend to complicate things, and keeping it simple is also art. “There’s only one Sun” always taught me an Italian DP
This was amazing, more please 🙏🏾
I love seeing you have the same conversations I often have with people. The same little tips and tricks. Sometimes when I do corporate interviews where they want to speak "off the cuff", I'll have a folding whiteboard stand just in their sightline with all their high level speaking points on it so they don't forget one. Brainstorming and pre-interview preparation are SO important for corporate work.
Really appreciate the lighting walkthrough thank you!
Great video and very helpful. From the pre-interview conversation (interesting to see how you give them context and set expectations) to the piece by piece guide to your boom mic set up (I'm looking at getting one and switching from lav use). Also really nice final frame for the interview in a space that didn't give a lot of options. Thanks!!
This guy so just so good. 🎉
Robot Voice - "I love your videos. They are so great". Lol. Nice work man.
@@kmalfred Thank you very much Mr. Roboto!
Great video, I always learn something every time I watch one of your videos - thanks!
Great video! Thank you for sharing!
This was amazing!!!
Has the clip with the F22c with overhead already been color-corrected? If so, I prefer the look of just the F22c due to less of a yellow cast. Great video, especially the part where you explain the process to the interviewee.
@@annac3514 With the mixing of light and tiny screens on the camera. It will need correcting in the final edit for sure.
Glad you enjoyed the pre interview chat!
Thank you!
I agree. I usually eliminate the overhead lighting becase of exactly this. The color with just the key light was so even and consistent and had great color cast.
Love your commitment to the content and wearing a GoPro while interviewing haha. I think i would have flipped the key so that the bookshelf was in the negative space instead of a blown out window. I think a grid would have also helped you here to control spill or at least turning off the overheads so the scene image isnt so flat.
For a corporate interview setup, I think it's already great, but I'm gonna nit pick one little bit, if you could manage to keep the exposure of the window in the background just under clipping, the shot would have looked even better.
On another note about placing the F22C so close to your subject, yes in terms of size of the light source to the subject you get that softer wrap around on the subject's face, but with it being so close to your subject, you actually make the light feel quite lit and not as natural. That is because the fall off of the light is stronger than what the environment is providing. So it is a tradeoff you are making if you decide to light this way.
If you wanted to make it look more natural, you'd have to back off the light and perhaps shoot it through a larger diffusion or use a light source with a larger lighting surface.
As for the overhead lights, I'm not sure about the color rendering quality, if they don't affect skintone too badly, it is still ok to have them on. But I much prefer to have them off and introduce my own ambient and hairlight if needed. However, this takes more time and more equipment to setup, budget and time of the shoot may not allow for such adjustments.
Overhead lights are almost always a big no-no. But I'm more and more surprised of the light quality of the F22C, it's a really solid option for quick, easy and lightweight setups.
More depth with windows is 🔥
@@WaltervanDusen Mucho thanks Walter!
Thought: what if you bounced a light off of the ceiling so you could better control the temp? It was a tight space, so I definitely get not doing it.
This was 🔥 though. Thanks for sharing your process!!
was thiking the same thing
What app is that for the white balance meter?
Great framing and composition. You're getting challenged lately in these small office spaces. I would have blocked the lights above, but with such a small room, it wouldn't be possible. You made it look great! I recently re-purchaced a Sekonic 800-u color meter to check ambient lighting. I have to compare it to Aputure's app light meter. I want to see how they compare.
Have you done this comparison yet? I've been interested in this for awhile!
@@RobRanney I haven't yet. I've been meaning to do so since I saw Peter use the app a few weeks ago. I might give a try over the weekend. I'll post a response here. I'm curious to see how the Sekonic and Aputure app measure both Lux and Temperature.
@@12yfilms great! Very curious to hear your findings!
Great work. I hope you are getting paid well. You are doing a job of a minimum of 3-person crew.
Super helpful video my dude. thanks
@@JesseEdgar Thanks for the support!
Oh the video is amazing! I really like it but can you explain how to calculate K when using a lamp?
Diggin it bro! Please make a video on editing s-cinetone via davinci 🙌🏼
Thanks, I liked and subd. Helpful BTS vid, good to see and learn from. I'm an experienced stills photographer, but new to video. I liked how you did key light (boomed over desk) I guess you could have also used a small table stand on desk too?
I have very similar kit cameras, sound etc (just ordered a F22C light to complement some Amaran 200xS lights). So your approach and insights are good for me in UK.
A few questions if I may....
How do you find the Senheisser MKH 416 indoors, in a small reflective space? I see many YT vids talking about secondary sound waves disturbing 'clean' audio and suggesting (much more expensive) MKH 50 indoors.
How did you sync 2nd cam (c/u with 85mm) with first cam (50mm) with a direct input (from Zoom F3 output). Is it just onboard mike for a rough scratch track?
Have you any views on merit of timecode with multi cam work? I have a Sony lav kit - good for direct input to a7iv or FX3, but wondering about Deity TC1 clocks with a Deity Theos and maybe a Sound Devices MixPre - but metaphorically I need to learn to walk before trying to run. So I need to practice, review, learn and practice some more.
When interviewing subjects, typically how often do you need to do a repeat of a question(s) to get better context or response? To what extent does repetition of question(s) start looking and sounding 'dead' or 'faked' and lacking spontaneity?
Appreciate any insights and tip using Sidus lighting app to read CT.
Fantastic videos.. I recently got a set of F22c’s, but the fan noise is incredibly loud and i'm considering returning them. I noticed on your setup you have the control unit placed right next to the desk. Are you experiencing the same issue? If so, do you find yourself cleaning up the audio in post?
Love the content! Why wouldn't you have brought one more light, turned the overheads off, and then bounced that second light off the ceiling for some fill?
One more light, leads to two more lights. Then three more lights and soon enough you have as 30 person crew with 6 days of filming.
Less is more with these smaller budget projects. I have learned to set boundaries. Just because I own the gear, it does not mean the clients get it for free.
I often travel for these shoots, so one more light means one more stand, one more sand bad and possibly one more stinger.
Thanks for the video. Any reason you were adjusting the F22c by hand rather than through the Sidus Link app? Also, how's fan noise on the F22c these days; not an issue for you?
@@JimFeeley I would need to jump around the app too much. I have had great success with fan noise not causing issues.
If you expect complete silence, you are never going to be happy.
The 1/8 input you have, what is the brand you are using to come out of the Zoom and into the camera. And do you have hiss going into the camera?
I just got a basic one off Amazon. Will try to look at the link. I never run USB power, since external power often adds hiss. So battery powered is clean.
What app do you use in your phone to measure temp of light?
It was Sidus link
Thanks for sharing. Great content, as always.
Question: line going into the camera from the microphone - it records both on the F3 and the camera? have you ever had problems with the F3?
Yes, the F3 get the best quality and the line out to camera is a backup. Never had any issues.
@@PDMokry does it record automatically on the f3, or do you have to press record on it ?
What reason did you decide to get a a74 to go with your fx6? Instead of paring it with a Fx3 would you say it’s the difference of quality vs the price for a secondary camera?
Hey do you ever run your f3 to your fx6 as well?
I am pleased with the quality of the audio on the FX6. So I never run it on them.
@@PDMokry I do as well just wanting to add a second audio source for back up.
Was the amaran light at full power?
Hey Piotr! What app are you using to match your scene? Also could you share the lens filter you may be using? Blessing!
When you were using your phone to measure something, was it color temperature? I just never saw the numbers you were saying outlaid on the phone view maybe I missed something. Just curious about the process of what you were doing.
Think I might have gone for a left to right eye line and used the glass front shelfs as the BG , instead of the burnt out window . Pulled that blind all the way down . And not have to boom out a key light . Think its better with the room lights off .
This 22C seems nice, but lately I've seen Nanlite 240C :o
Yesss those 240C are fire. After owning one for a few months, I had to go back and get another one. As much as I love Aputure/Amaran, the Nanlite Pavoslim line of lights have been great. My only issue with them are the bi-color models. I have one 120b and it's surprising how much red exists at 4400k. It doesn't have a magenta correction. lol, I just reminded myself that we spoke about this in another video. Having Godox, Aputure and Nanlite lights and all the apps we use to make are sets work.
The pavo slims are AWESOME. I like the Amarans, but if you can afford the pavo slims they are definitely superior. I just got off a feature where we had a 120c and honestly wished we had three more.
@@12yfilms Yeah ... I was trying to not get into another ecosystem, but someone mentioned Pavoslims somewhere and I want them bad :D. I have to live with 3 apps, or invest into Aputure Sidus Pro.
I'm thinking 1*240C and 2*120Cs :D.
What's nice about 120C is you can join them into 2x2 or 4x1, but I think you still have to operate them separately, which is sometimes actually good :D.
240C is almost 4 times more powerful that 22c :o
@@cfl4286 Sometimes I wish people does mention new gear, because usually in comments I learn that I bought into wrong brand :D
@@12yfilms Yeah. I tried to not buy into Nanlite ecosystem, to avoid having 3rd application on my phone to operate the lights (I have Godox and Aputure already).
But Pavoslims look so amazing that I cannot skip them :D. I think I'm going to get 240C first and then 2*120C later.
What is good about them that you can connect 2X1s with brackets and create 2x2 or 4x1. You still have to operate them separately (as I understand it) but it might be acutally a pro.
And if 3 apps are annoying to use I can invest into Aputure Sidus Pro, and operate everything from 1 place, sad thing is that this app only works on iPad (which I do not own) and it will be probably paid subscription based :(.
I feel like you'd get double the views if you posted a link to the interview in the description. :)
Just filmed this a week ago. So it will be about a month before it drops.
Do you shoot the interviews with autofocus turned ON or OFF ?
Depends if you reliable autofocus.
I use Sony cameras and do a lot of interviews and do all them with autofocus. Just use a lower subject sensitivity and set it to Left or Right eye focus, so it stays on the same eye etc.
I also shoot with two cameras so if there's ever an issue i can just swap to the other angle - though i've never had an issue.
100% on point, I trust Sony AF for 90% of interviews.
@@PDMokry Good to know. However, have you never had problems with focus going in and out? focus breathing... I have the 85mm and it seems to be fine in that regard... How about the 50mm 1.2 ? Thank you
@@marcoaslan A7IV has focus breathing compensation ... so no problem there :D. Sad it only works with Sony lenses, so my 55mm Zeiss is breathing a lot :D.
@@JoATTech I think he means the auto focus hunting/pulsing not so much focus breathing from racking focus. but yea Sony has basically the best AF so I would imagine it could be left on. I dont use sony and I typically leave on MF I think but even if it pulses/hunts you could theoretically cut to the other camera or some b-roll too
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How to light a small office... "Put 1 softbox in their face, And hope it has 2 windows... Thank you". Really? A hair light through the right window or a ambient UP light behind the chair would have been helpful.
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99% of my shoots are in small rooms lol. 🙄I ask hey is your office large enough for you another person and gear? they say yes is huge! then I walk into a shoebox