Your products would probably make a killing on instagram/tiktok. I was shocked to see you had less than 2000 followers on Instagram 😱 Love what you're creating and hoping your reach grows and grows!
The idea of returning packaging to the producer can work really well at a local scale, but I think it stops being sustainable when the empty packaging has to be shipped longer distances. I would imagine it would be better to create packaging that is easy to recycle, like aluminum cans, or is compostable.
@Sku11Leader ultimately the vehicles only run because there is demand! if noone was posting things the vehicles wouldn't run, so if we found a way to reduce the need to post items then less vehicles would be needed
@@Sku11Leaderthat just help the toxic system to stay in place. We can t keep running so many planes, container ships, trucks. Anything using this system is just wrong since it keeps it alive longer.
@@krt2068 To be fair to that argument kind of necessitates a world where everyone only/majorly used locally produced products. Which I imagine is a much bigger chance than any one olive-oil company can really dream of making so in the reality where they are saying that "if any noticeable percentage of olive oil production was done this way. It would be more sustainable in transport costs/diminished glass production/waste" then you gotta give it to them. And it does seem to be one of the smarter ways of going about it since, much like Ebbers said with the coffee cups, the oil needs a container that it won't dissolve since it's a liquid. And most coatings that make that possible also makes the container itself non-biodegradable. Hence: recycling
My friend and her husband are bee keepers and bee educators. One thing I learned from them was that for bees to produce 1 kilo of wax, they need to consume about 7 kilos of honey. It is a very labour intensive process for bees to make wax, so being able to do sheets of wax for them to remodel is very helpful
@@RJiiFin sorry just reread my original comment and picked up what you mean. Bee educators in that they travel around to local schools and organisations to educate the public about the important role bees play and how to help protect them and that
A number of years ago I was at a ‘fancier’ restaurant for a friend’s bachelorette party and there was a drink that had a shrub in it. I asked the server what a shrub was and we were both confused when he said ‘a small bush’ 😂 the bartender happily told me what it actually was and I really enjoyed it in the drink.
About recycling those wax pots: first of all, great idea. Natural wax is a lovely product with a very pleasant smell. As for those "sheets' it is turned into, there is a bit more to it. Those sheets are not flat, they have fairly high ridges in a hexagonal (honeycomb) patterns that act as a guide for bees to build their structures onto. The sheets are fixed into wooden frames that fit neatly into the beehives. Not only that's a good way to get a bunch of surface area for bees to build on, but also since those frames are of a standard size, it makes getting the honey out much easier since once 'package' is of a known size, a machine can be made to handle it. They are also easier to transport to those machines because you just hand up those frames vertically to haul them, so they don't stick to each other like they would if you just stacked them. Naturally bees build a rather droopy hives where each layer of honeycomb is of an odd shape, making it more difficult to extract honey from. These frames and sheets just make it all more organized, as well as giving bees a good surface to build on.
About 20 years ago I met a youngish Irish lady (in Switzerland) who made these herself from the garden (she was an experienced chef at a high-end resort.) She made the vinegars and syrups (also cordials and sparkling wines.) I had one made from elderflower and it was awesome! She was my first intro to wild fermentation outside of sauerkraut, cucumbers and co. Eye opening. Thanks for this, guys 🫶🏻
So easy to make elderflower lemonade. You just need to secure a good, not polluted source for the fresh flowers i.e. a bush which grows far from the busy road and not on some trash etc. Pick the flowers in spring, take care they don't get dusty or anything and soak them in a sugar and water solution with some lemons cut up and citrate or tartrate added for the sour taste. Lift the flowers out by their green stalks after a couple of days, and hey presto, you've got elderflower lemonade. You need to store it chilled, though, and drink it soon, because it won't keep for long for the lack of any preservative.
My grandma used to make elderflower syrup for us. Drinking it with cold sparkling or still water is quite common in rural areas. I still have a bottle in my fridge, but she's quite old now and can't go out into the woods to collect the flowers. I personally rarely drink just diluted, it makes really really good lemonade, and I also like adding it to my Tom Collins's.
@@RaccKing21 you could also just grow your own elderberries & flowers. i'm a bit too urban myself to go foraging but i wouldn't anyway, maybe i'm just fussy but i wouldn't eat stuff from the forest where i haven't been able to control its habitat, not a big fan of eating animal poo and pee. and using that green finger in the backgarden is half the fun of making things from stuff you've grown anyways.
Actually a lot of oil in Spain is not bought in glass bottles, it is bought in very large metal bottles (5-8L) which are rectangular. So the box shape is not really new, the material is but metal is very easy to recycle (arguably more so than tetrapacks).
Yep not from spain but i have a large metal box of olive oil brought from italy... why would you faff about shipping a plastic container? It is plastic! it sheds microplastics everywhere! That sucks!
If plastic "shed" at all, let alone everywhere, it WOULDNT BE USED....... It is used SPECIFFICIALLY BECAUSSE it doesn't "shed" or leak or break down in the mere presence of air and water, like metal does.
@@stapuft Recent studies show 100x higher levels of microplastics in plastic water bottle water than previously thought. Do you think the companies care? It is used because it is cheap and legal. Nestlee or whatever bottled water company has 0 care for your health.
Okay but Barry's drawing of Ebbers is actually adorable and he definitely should draw the rest of the team and then you should sell merch featuring the drawing
I like the idea of sending the "bladder" for refill, but I'm pretty sure it's far more carbon efficient to recycle the plastic rather than shipping it to them for them to recycle. I might be wrong but it's something to consider. Reusing the glass bottlers in your kitchen I fully support as that's something I'm allready doing myself.
the plastic hate i dont get. big items made out of plastic are not the problem in any way, microplastics are. even burning them for energy is better than cleaning glas bottles energy wise (and therefore co2 wise). transporting bladders and CLEANING them will likely result in more co2.
@0bloodshot0 large plastic items breakdown and become secondary microplastics. No plastic is good, only less bad. Glass and metal are better. Even if they're being transported, if it's en masse with other items then it's footprint is negligible. It only becomes a large issue if special trips are being made for those one off items instead of bulk transport with other things.
I'm on the fence for #3 Even with the refilling bladder - I still have to buy a bottle of oil at the store to decant, and then I have an empty bottle Also if I finish my box and then mail it back to Spain for a refill, isn't that just increasing the carbon footprint? It's a good product, I just think it's creating a couple problems while fixing others
you have to compare the footprint of sending it back and forth to the footprint of shipping and processing all the raw materials for a new packaging every time. And and empty bottle can be reused again and again, unless you forsee a time when you will stop cooking with oil.
We are always looking to improve this (every year we tweak it a bit more), but when you send it back-it comes to us here in the UK (which is the only place we sell the oil). We pay to have the plastic fully recycled with TerraCycle so it closes the loop and the plastic is then able to be made into something new.
@@citizensofsoil oh wow, I was not expecting a reply from the source itself! That's great to hear and alleviates my concerns quite a bit, really glad to hear you're improving on processes and keeping all this in mind. All the best to you, wish you much success
Thank you for showcasing Citizens of Soil. They tick all my boxes for sustainability. I like to add one fact you may have missed. When the oil is packed in bags. You can dispense olive oil WITHOUT adding oxygen. Helps olive oil last a bit longer.
Years back, when I was mucking about with homemade vinegars and shrubs, I learned that ancient Romans used similar things as a form of energy drinks. It struck me that if it was true it would put a different spin on the legionnaire using a "vinegar" soaked sponge at the cross.
Interesting story indeed, especially when considering that the Biblical writer has presented it as a proof of cruelty towards Jesus. Makes one wonder why.
@@erzsebetkovacs2527 I disagree about the "proof of cruelty", it's just stated as a fact without the assessment of intentions (only in Lucas' gospel it's said that the soldiers delivered vinegar while mocking Jesus - but seeing how they mockingly called him a King, it's more about giving him a simple army drink instead of a wine, which would be more appropriate for a noble or royal person. A bit like giving someone dilluted lukewarm instant coffee instead of a fresh, hot espresso). It's a later association that by seeing a word translated to "vinegar" we only think of something very sour and awful to drink. Some scholars say that an acidic drink mixed of water and immature, sour wine was a common thirst quenching drink among roman soldiers, so they had it at hand. I guess in case of shrub it should also be sweetened a bit. It is unclear if the gesture was meant to relieve some pain by quenching convict's thirst (positive), or a way to extend the agony by nourishing the convict, or a mocking gesture with neutral drink (acting as a "servant giving the king something to drink when he's on his throne'), or a mocking gesture with a repulsive drink.
Ahhh I’m so happy something from my home country (Lithuania) made it into the video! ❤❤ We are very passionate about honey and literally everyone is 1-2 people removed from getting local honey 😂
Buy from your local beekeeper, by all means. Googled Bee Loop and I can see they are a Lithuanian company. What I don't see is how they are able to guarantee that the wax pots won't be affected by heat while being shipped and basically melt. On the other hand, beeswax makes for the best smelling candles with a wonderful sweet flowery scent even without anything added to them.
I have to agree. I just can't see how it can travel around the continent in let's be honest a flimsy beewax container. So there has to be more packaging while shipping to ensure the product comes to the buyer intact. So in the end glass jars are still a better option, as it can be directly reused by the buyer instead of being composted, turned into candles or whatever you can else you can use bee wax for.
@@rdizzy1 We reuse glass jars yearly for pickling cucumbers, paprika, sweet chilis, also different kinds of jams and marmalades. And pretty sure a lot of people in the Balkans do that too. For the ones that don't do any of that, there are glass recycle bins.
@@StormCrusher94 In the US, statistically, roughly 70% of glass in these products ends up in a landfill. Thus, products like this are better for places like this.
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Not convinced that sending the bladder back via post, hygienic rinsing, refill, return shipment is actually more sustainable. The smaller pouch (and recycling it) though has potential, I assume a glass bottle would need a lot of rounds to be more efficient.
Yeah. It's definitely more wasteful than (what I said in another comment) a large metal tin of oil. Or glass bottles which are easily recycled. Most consumers are also not making the effort to send back a little plastic bag. So it's just adding plastic in its worst form (bags) into the trash cycle whether it's landfill or ocean dumped.
I checked their site. At $20USD for each 300ml pouch that's in the same price category as what high end US supermarket brands charge (California Olive Ranch's better varieties are about that price). Assuming their claims about single estate etc. are true you'd be getting some really good EVOO at really good prices. The pouches are opaque and airtight so basically the ideal packaging for oil. The bag in a box doesn't even appear on their site BTW.
Here in Australia, I buy local olive oil in 3L steel cans. The cans are fully recyclable and cost about $35-$49 (Au). I'm not convinced using plastic bladders at a price point of (Au $162 as at time of writing) is either sustainable or affordable.
The last segment spoke to me as a beekeeper I'm not going to lie this really does bring attention to the overall struggle that we face. Whether that's being economical, sustainable etc. I'm not gonna lie though I'd love to donate a jar of honey from the hives in my family's garden to you guys at Sorted and see what you think
Also, the struggle of battling cheap, imported glucose syrup sold as honey. If you want real honey, find a local beekeeper. Support local ecological small scale businesses.
For those of us in the US that can't get Coffee Notes, there is another UK-based company called Martha Brook that has a similar product that will ship to the US (just the first one I found after a Google search, sure there are more). Also found notebooks on Amazon made from recycled sugarcane once the juices have been pressed out. Now I'm thoroughly intrigued by the idea and must go search for more! Thanks, Sorted!
Gods, I *love* how enthusiastic Mike gets, even talking over Ebbers and his product recap!! It gets you so jazzed for these amazing products, which the testing is already getting you amped for. Amazing!!
I can remember my granddad giving us "raspberry vinegar" diluted with water to drink something like 50 years ago. Shrubs are very, very easy to make - I do a couple of batches every now and again.
Thank you to the team at Sorted Food for posting this video today! I was just told that I have a non cancerous brain tumor which I did surgery for yesterday. This video has really brightened my day!
appreciate the perspective and the reason for choosing these products so much!! making sustainability and the preservation of the world we live in engaging on other platforms is so important
Shrub is amazing! Suggestion for another collab with max guys! He made a raspberry one from. 1911. Your collabs with him are your best! You all work so well! What do you think?❤❤❤❤❤❤
I was looking for a similar comment. Max did one a little while ago involving raspberry shrub and if I remember correctly the UK used to have some very affordable prices on their raspberries in comparison to here in the US. A shrub collab would be cool
Switchel, cousin to shrubs, is usually based on ginger rather than fruit and uses richer sugars such as molasses, brown sugar, or maple syrup. Vinegar is common to both. These drinks are very refreshing, especially on hot, sweaty summer workdays. They would make wonderful non-alcoholic bar drinks and encourage creativity with ingredients and presentation.
I've been making my own shrubs, specifically, grapefruit and a caradomon apple shrub for 7 years now. I love shrubs. To see it now on your channel is surprising and awesome. They are so easy to make in your own kitchen and delicious. Love it!
Love to see an episode on a cocktail/mocktajl battle. All three normals are given three parameters to make a drink within- eg. Citrusy, Herbal, bjtter- or even a video on shrubs themselves, how to make and store the syrup etc. I love shrubs, but always feel tentative making the syrups and leaving them in the fridge.
It would be wonderful, if you could provide links to the vendor of these products in upcoming videos. ☺️ Every time I see something nice the research starts 🙈
The first shrubs I had were at Colonial Williamsburg as a kid (non-alco, of course). They did a citrus shrub with sparkling water and a scoop of a citrus sherbet. They now sell different shrub syrups and they're delicious with sparkling water and an Outshine bar of a similar flavor.
I would buy the notebooks if they are fountain pen friendly. In the past when most people used fountain pens paper was a better quality than what is made nowadays when ink tends to bleed or feather.
The Olive oil one sounds completely insane to me. I buy olive oil in easily recycled glass bottles. In order to be more "environmentally friendly" they are shipping them in plastic? What's wrong with the glass bottles?! You're fixing a problem that doesn't exist with a far worse solution.
I make a 'shrub' every year with my plum harvest. Although the 1950s cookbook I got the recipe from simply calls it Plum Vinegar. I use red plums with really sour skins that adds so much delicious tang to the vinegar solution. I like to drink mine with Schweppes lime soda water. I've also used the strained fruit pulp to make cakes.
Idk about that olive oil thing. 1) shipping the used up bladder all the way to Spain or Greece cannot be efficient. 2) I doubt they reuse it - washing it thoroughly to get all the old oil out will be very hard. Easier to resend a fresh pack back and bin the old one. 3) Price of return shipping is part of the packaging cost = higher total cost for the oil. 4) Plastic is less recyclable than glass, which is less recyclable than metal. It really feels like taking a step back for recycability. 5) Plastic bladders in box wine always leave some of the product in them; it's harder to get the last drop out compared to glass or can.
Exactly, I don’t see that packaging as being responsible in the least. The most responsible packaging for olive oil is the very traditional metal tin which is 100% recyclable. Steel and aluminum are almost always recycled if disposed of as recycling; plastic is not. Even glass is better than plastic for both the longevity of the oil and for the planet. And if you want a refillable glass bottle, make it a sturdy glass bottle that is returned for deposit, rather than producing millions upon millions of plastic bags to refill it. Soda used to be sold that way in the US until the beverage industry successfully built the lie of recyclable plastics to relieve themselves of what they considered the hassle of return for deposit glass bottles.
Hi Joanna! All extra virgin olive oil should be used within 3 months of opening to get the best out of the oil. That's not specific to our oils-it's something we were taught by industry experts and reports around the best quality. We only state it as we want to ensure people get the best out of our oils (from both the nutritional and flavour side). You can, of course, use it beyond that-but as our oils are extra virgin which is like a fruit juice-we encourage using them the way the farmers and producers recommend.
Andalusian here: a liter of extra Virgin olive oil lasts in my parent's house one week or two at most 😅 I don't even think it should be used after 6 months
Perhaps i missed it, but wouldn't it be better for the bee keepers to keep the wax that the bees produce instead of sending it back and forth in the form of a jar? I'm still very iffy on the idea of creating more transport via sending stuff back instead of more local recycling. Glass bottles do break but they are also nigh infinitely recyclable. Compared to plastics which are not, while they weigh less, they also create q ton of microplastics and other less appealing stuff.
I would for sure give all a try especially the honey and oil. But being in the US these items may be hard for me to get but I would surely give them all a go, thanks guys you are great to watch and great information on items!
this is by far the best food trends video of sorted I have ever seen. Good start of 2024, Sorted! I would love to write my ideas in those coffee note books. That's the best Item among the four showcased in the video. And as usual,👍(liked)!
I am all in favour of the sentiment, but it would be so nice to participate in 'saving the world' without spending £85 on olive oil and an eye-watering £30 for a jar of honey that Mike seemed to break just by touching it.
Not to mention that the vast majority of pollution isn't from individual people, but from large corporations, refineries, factories, cars, trucks... I'm pretty sure the largest polluter of the oceans is the fishing industry with all the garbage and nets they dump. Recycling as a way to save the world was mainly made up by large petrochemical companies as a way to offload the cost and responsibility of reducing pollution onto the local governments and individual people.
That's my issue with these things, they make you conscious and guilty of everything and put the world's problems on you, but then they are unaffordable to a vast majority of people. And I get it is new technology and new advances, and in time if it becomes the new normal and more people/companies start doing it that can bring the price down, as it being new/ethical is what can hike the price up. But it still doesn't change that right now it just isn't affordable for so many of us, which can make that guilt and shame even worse And as the other person said, pollution and waste is put on us as the consumers, but we are forced to purchase the products the manufacturers make, with the very often under paid budgets we are given. Greedy higher ups are the reason we can't afford these products, and greedy higher ups are the reason we're having to buy these unethical and unsustainable products, and those greedy higher ups are really the biggest issue
Then vote. There are political groups advocating for the return of mandate on glass for ex (so that recycling is paid by the producer) We live in democracies, we get to choose. As long as people are voting for right/central parties colluding with industrial magnates, no wonder things fall on the consumers...
@@LTDLetsPlays an indian pollutes 10 times less than an american. Same.for a chinese if you take into account the amount of products the factories are manufacturing for us... Stop looking elsewhere and tidy up your own room. 😉
I haven't bought a takeaway coffee for a while but I always take a keep cup with me. I was doing that a few years before it got popular and it was hard to find the coffee cups with a lid. I also took my own little bowl with a lid and spoon with me and if I wanted a take away cake and coffee I used my stuff instead of all the paper and plastic wrap. I know when I was a kid, paper straws were coated in a wax so they wouldn't dissolve in your drink. I like these videos. It shows how things change but also kind of stay the same. Thank you
As a teetotaling calligrapher, I really loved this video. If this is the direction trends are going then I can definitely get behind them. My friends and family may even get Christmas cards in 2024 because there’s a sale on some that are made in a way that doesn’t seem irresponsible and wasteful. Thanks. Keep up the good work!
with the honey, you could also reuse the wax yourself, if you're a sewist (when hand sewing, you run the thread over beeswax or somesuch other wax to keep the thread from fraying as it passes through the fabric over and over again), or you could melt it down and coat fabric in it to create beeswax wraps for covering bowls, cut fruit, or to enclose a sandwich in your lunch box.
Interesting that shrubs have a similar history to cocktails, which were an invention of the underground booze culture of Prohibition-era America. With the sale of booze outlawed, speakeasies started offering bootleg hooch(not renowned for its quality control) mixed with all manner of things to mask the unpleasant flavors that came along with the sketchy distillation, storage, and transport. If you want to ensure freshness in your olive oil, you buy it by the can - which is also recyclable.
I've been watching you for years and never commented! But this episode deserves the first ever comment. From doing the research to find the honey pot, to how well you all explained the need for the prices and the trickle down of innovation. Well done! I'm a proud Sorted fan 💛💚
I wonder how they are able to separate paper and plastic, though, because this has been a near universal problem for years now. Sometimes, I have even opted out of buying takeout coffee when I was able to see beforehand that I would be served in a plastic lined cup.
Yes it is great that they are recycling coffee cups. But it is still a lot of energy for initial production and recycling. It is better to carry your own reusable tumbler.
so great to see people and companies working to make things more sustainable not just for the environment but for everyone involved, from the farmers to the buyers. i need to look into options like this in Australia cause i can imagine it would tip the scale back again if i was to buy and have shipped over here.
I had heard of shurbs but could not have told you exactly what was in them. I am so glad people are becoming more responsible in packaging and growing.
Depends on how much the wax weighs, and what type of honey it is. Wax is scarce and I wouldn't be surprised if it's half that price or more. It has to be melted, filtered, and molded.
All three are fabulous ideas. The honey pots are my favourites , I love the idea of being able to give the pot to any bee keeper to return to the bees. I can really get on board with this. May even be worth keeping one pot to melt down to revitalise wax wraps.
For the Bee Loop product, I would set the whole container in a small ceramic container just in case I break the wax. Once I have used all the honey, the wax could be used as a candle.
On the transportation of containers, repeatedly making & transporting individual ones can be wasteful energy wise. I still remember the local grocer in the village having bulk containers of some things which he used to fill your reusable container you took to him. Some delis will still do this with things like olive & other oils. Maybe now we've trained people to bring their own carrier bags shopping, grocers, other shops & supermarkets could pass on savings by encouraging customers to bring their own boxes & containers to buy certain food stuffs? It's why I thought it was crazy that lemonade companies got rid of the 10p deposit scheme they used to do on pop bottles just as recycling bottles became the norm. I'm lucky I get my milk delivered, so they pick up the glass bottles when I get my delivery. So constant renewal. I remember they tried the Canadian method of selling milk in plastic bags (you need a special jug to pour it from) in the UK in the 70's but it didn't take off. It works in Canada so why couldn't it work here with a bit more thought?
Coffee Notes has a 50% off sale and I got a 10% coupon for being a first time visitor. This made a planner I was interested in $9.50 USD. I live in Arizona so the shipping was $3 more than the actual product 😅. I’m so excited for it to arrive, though!
I've seen the boxed oil more and more in Canada. Especially in the stores who lean more towards Zero Waste. It's been really great to be honest, it makes refilling the oil container so much easier, especially if you can just bring own bottle into the shops to refill there. Shrubs sounds interesting, I'll love to try!
I just posted a similar response about bringing your own containers. Doesn't Canada still also still sell milk in plastic bags which you pop in a jug, snipping the corner off? They tried it here in UK in the 70's but the idea didn't take off. I think with a bit of perseverance it could work here.
@@Getpojke They used to sell milk in these plastic pouches in Hungary when I was a child. I wish they still did that instead of tetrapak which, how does one recycle that anyway?
@@erzsebetkovacs2527 I get my milk delivered in glass bottles which the driver picks up again next delivery. But I think the bags would be so much better when buying from the supermarket/shops. I don't know if its an infrastructure thing but seemingly about 97% of local authorities in the UK can recycle Tetrapak containers in the UK? I don't imagine its cheap to do though!?
@@accio_braincells It seems a more sensible way to buy/sell it. I checked after my initial post & seemingly Sainsbury's tried it again in 2008 in the UK. Seemingly interest waned & they stopped the experiment in 2015.
I’ve been using sidekick loving it! And using it alongside a diet to lose weight it’s adding so much exciting diversity in my meals completely forgetting I’m even on an diet
I love all of these! I'll have to see if they all send to the states. I don't know how many products I've bought because of this channel. Got my sister the licorice salt for a gift, the miracle berries & szechuan buds just to try, & that many jars of that Pommery Dijon mustard. Thank you from highlighting all of these cool products!
19:33 Barry and Ben are the best of friends, They live together in a country cottage, They like to share baths as it saves water, Scrub my back Ben, Ok moving on 😂😂
The olive oil is extremely expensive - seems to me that you are paying a lot for the intermediary. You can buy top Greek olive oil for less directly from producers, with shipping about the same price for 5l instead of 3l…
Nice to see shrubs making an appearance. The vinegar along with the sugar helped to preserve the fruit too. And “fruit vinegar” and sparkling water has been a “thing” for as long as fruit vinegars have existed.
the oil in the box should last a long time because air can't get into the bladder. you can tuck that in your store cupboard and use it to fill your nice looking glass bottle you keep in the kitchen :D
I absolutely hate the fact that anytime something "recycled" or "sustainable" comes to market, they feel the need to charge a metric butt ton more than the average. Why does something that comes from waste need to be more expensive, other than for profit?
How do people predict what is going to be big and what isn’t? That would be a fun video to see who and why companies think foods are going to be big! Always fascinated me
As a bartending nerd, I knew exactly what was in those glasses once they said fruity and vinegar. Shrubs work really well with seltzer. And soft fruits (berries especially) are generally easier to use to make them. Stone fruits as well.
Beeswax can also be used for water impregnation on shoes and coats, etc, or wax cloths for food sealing, and so on. You really have to be aware how it works though, so you don't ruin utensils or plumbing. It's true beeswax is rare, expensive and antibacterial, and can be returned to the bees provided it's prepared correctly. Most beekeepers want honey and very few focus on wax production. If the honey is very dark it is almost always from heather, but sometimes lice.
I love every one of these products and wish we could have them in the US. Hoping beekeepers here are paying attention cuz a lot of us would love that beautiful honey pot. Great video guys!
Shrubs are really easy to make!! I got into them like 6 years back from a friend who makes wild soda and grows tons of things in his backyard. Not that you shouldn't buy them, but definitely give it a try at home as well :) edit: Learning that people are figuring out how to recycle plastic lined paper goods is wonderful!
I wish you could have an episode like this for the US. I know you have a lot of viewers from here that would like to see things like this that we can have access to. I really liked the Coffee Notes, but they are unable to ship to me in the US (Pennsylvania).
Of all these, I'm most interested in the olive oil one. It is kinda odd how we just keep buying glass bottles of oil and you kinda have to toss them. I keep a few, mainly for syrups and stuff (the pourer that comes in the bottle is quite nice to ease pouring while making cocktails), but I only need like 3 or 4. And for the honey one, I buy my honey from a local beekeeper. She drops off a couple jars, I give her the old ones, and then she flies off on her e-scooter.
I love the olive oil story. But the bee wax container has me a bit perplexed... Where do they get so much bee wax from to make the containers, if not from bees who as you said, work their little tuchies off making the comb.
Each winter a hive goes into a form of hibernation and form a ball of bees. That means the frames used for honey string get removed, either to be melted down or store and returned to the bees next spring. In spring the bees start their yearly life cycle of frantically and effectively expanding their hive to produce as many bees to make the hive large enough the coming winter. If the weather holds the hives can become huge, but there many variables that can cause a hive to die. Dry summer weather makes the queen not lay eggs as to not empty the food storage, and mild winters can kill hives because the temps signals spring too early and they start expanding too quickly before spring flowers and trees have begun producing pollen and nectar.
Just checked out Citizens of Soil. Looks cool. They do have bottles, but they look like they'd be just as awkward as the box or pouch to deal with. I'd love to see them offer a really user-friendly, product-protecting, refillable, PRETTY bottle. Make me want to keep it on the table and drizzle flawlessly for my guests.
The first one they reviewed has inspired me. There are so many drinks that come to mind. I am wondering if a dessert with the shrubs. Love the history part of the shrub thanks Ben. I enjoy the history aspect of it.
Thanks for another video, you guys rock. I can't wait for actual cooking videos again. Those are my absolute favourites. Enough with ingredients and gadgets already ;-) Cook something!!!!
Keep in mind though, that wild bees (solitary bees) do about 90% of the pollination. There are hundreds of species across the globe, and they need protection badly. They live in a wide range of habitats, and need not only flowers (some of them are extremely specific about their diet) but also nesting places and materials to build their nest, for which they each have their preference too.
I'm guessing James cropper is the paper mill coffee notes use, good company, we use waste paper from them to bed cows, once the fibres are too short to form paper we buy it and makes great bedding, keeps our fields from being too acidic and breaks down great on fields for fertilizer once the cows are done with it
Thanks for talking about our products ❤ for those asking we have just opened our online store to deliver to the USA!
I immediately went to your website and was pleased to see your products are readily available on this side of the pond. What a great idea!
Your products would probably make a killing on instagram/tiktok. I was shocked to see you had less than 2000 followers on Instagram 😱 Love what you're creating and hoping your reach grows and grows!
Thank you thank you love that; and can’t wait to try out your products
I'm in the States so that's great to hear.
How do you go about collecting the cups?
The idea of returning packaging to the producer can work really well at a local scale, but I think it stops being sustainable when the empty packaging has to be shipped longer distances. I would imagine it would be better to create packaging that is easy to recycle, like aluminum cans, or is compostable.
But if you consider that those delivery vehicles are going to be running either way I could see it maybe being better.
@Sku11Leader ultimately the vehicles only run because there is demand! if noone was posting things the vehicles wouldn't run, so if we found a way to reduce the need to post items then less vehicles would be needed
@@Sku11Leaderthat just help the toxic system to stay in place.
We can t keep running so many planes, container ships, trucks. Anything using this system is just wrong since it keeps it alive longer.
@@krt2068 To be fair to that argument kind of necessitates a world where everyone only/majorly used locally produced products. Which I imagine is a much bigger chance than any one olive-oil company can really dream of making
so in the reality where they are saying that "if any noticeable percentage of olive oil production was done this way. It would be more sustainable in transport costs/diminished glass production/waste" then you gotta give it to them. And it does seem to be one of the smarter ways of going about it since, much like Ebbers said with the coffee cups, the oil needs a container that it won't dissolve since it's a liquid. And most coatings that make that possible also makes the container itself non-biodegradable. Hence: recycling
If it was implanted in a way that any producer's of the same product could receive it and reuse it then it would be more sustainable
My friend and her husband are bee keepers and bee educators. One thing I learned from them was that for bees to produce 1 kilo of wax, they need to consume about 7 kilos of honey. It is a very labour intensive process for bees to make wax, so being able to do sheets of wax for them to remodel is very helpful
Oooh do they educate the bees in tiny classrooms?
@@itsgonnabeanaurfromme ?????
@@cassandrakarpinski9416It's a yes or no question
@@RJiiFin sorry just reread my original comment and picked up what you mean. Bee educators in that they travel around to local schools and organisations to educate the public about the important role bees play and how to help protect them and that
@@cassandrakarpinski9416So is that a yes or no on the tiny classrooms?
A number of years ago I was at a ‘fancier’ restaurant for a friend’s bachelorette party and there was a drink that had a shrub in it. I asked the server what a shrub was and we were both confused when he said ‘a small bush’ 😂 the bartender happily told me what it actually was and I really enjoyed it in the drink.
About recycling those wax pots: first of all, great idea. Natural wax is a lovely product with a very pleasant smell.
As for those "sheets' it is turned into, there is a bit more to it. Those sheets are not flat, they have fairly high ridges in a hexagonal (honeycomb) patterns that act as a guide for bees to build their structures onto. The sheets are fixed into wooden frames that fit neatly into the beehives. Not only that's a good way to get a bunch of surface area for bees to build on, but also since those frames are of a standard size, it makes getting the honey out much easier since once 'package' is of a known size, a machine can be made to handle it. They are also easier to transport to those machines because you just hand up those frames vertically to haul them, so they don't stick to each other like they would if you just stacked them.
Naturally bees build a rather droopy hives where each layer of honeycomb is of an odd shape, making it more difficult to extract honey from. These frames and sheets just make it all more organized, as well as giving bees a good surface to build on.
About 20 years ago I met a youngish Irish lady (in Switzerland) who made these herself from the garden (she was an experienced chef at a high-end resort.) She made the vinegars and syrups (also cordials and sparkling wines.) I had one made from elderflower and it was awesome! She was my first intro to wild fermentation outside of sauerkraut, cucumbers and co. Eye opening. Thanks for this, guys 🫶🏻
Oh wow, that's amazing! It's great when you meet people with such unique hobbies/areas of expertise.
@@SortedFoodAMAZING 😊😊😊😊❤❤❤
So easy to make elderflower lemonade. You just need to secure a good, not polluted source for the fresh flowers i.e. a bush which grows far from the busy road and not on some trash etc. Pick the flowers in spring, take care they don't get dusty or anything and soak them in a sugar and water solution with some lemons cut up and citrate or tartrate added for the sour taste. Lift the flowers out by their green stalks after a couple of days, and hey presto, you've got elderflower lemonade. You need to store it chilled, though, and drink it soon, because it won't keep for long for the lack of any preservative.
My grandma used to make elderflower syrup for us. Drinking it with cold sparkling or still water is quite common in rural areas. I still have a bottle in my fridge, but she's quite old now and can't go out into the woods to collect the flowers.
I personally rarely drink just diluted, it makes really really good lemonade, and I also like adding it to my Tom Collins's.
@@RaccKing21 you could also just grow your own elderberries & flowers. i'm a bit too urban myself to go foraging but i wouldn't anyway, maybe i'm just fussy but i wouldn't eat stuff from the forest where i haven't been able to control its habitat, not a big fan of eating animal poo and pee. and using that green finger in the backgarden is half the fun of making things from stuff you've grown anyways.
Actually a lot of oil in Spain is not bought in glass bottles, it is bought in very large metal bottles (5-8L) which are rectangular. So the box shape is not really new, the material is but metal is very easy to recycle (arguably more so than tetrapacks).
Yep not from spain but i have a large metal box of olive oil brought from italy... why would you faff about shipping a plastic container? It is plastic! it sheds microplastics everywhere! That sucks!
If plastic "shed" at all, let alone everywhere, it WOULDNT BE USED....... It is used SPECIFFICIALLY BECAUSSE it doesn't "shed" or leak or break down in the mere presence of air and water, like metal does.
@@controlledsingularity8084 The metal canisters that are used to store olive oil are lines with plastic on the inside as well.
@@stapuft Recent studies show 100x higher levels of microplastics in plastic water bottle water than previously thought. Do you think the companies care? It is used because it is cheap and legal. Nestlee or whatever bottled water company has 0 care for your health.
@@DangerSquiggles Sadly true. But it is one time used plastic. Reusing plastic containers creates a rapid increase in microplastic shed.
Okay but Barry's drawing of Ebbers is actually adorable and he definitely should draw the rest of the team and then you should sell merch featuring the drawing
I like the idea of sending the "bladder" for refill, but I'm pretty sure it's far more carbon efficient to recycle the plastic rather than shipping it to them for them to recycle. I might be wrong but it's something to consider. Reusing the glass bottlers in your kitchen I fully support as that's something I'm allready doing myself.
Depends on how much post is already going to that location and how they clean it really.
So little of the plastic (at least in the US) is actually recycled, and if this isn't one of them, then sending it back is definitely better.
@@kelqueen9998 i might be a bit spoiled in that regard as in Norway most plastic is recycled.
the plastic hate i dont get. big items made out of plastic are not the problem in any way, microplastics are. even burning them for energy is better than cleaning glas bottles energy wise (and therefore co2 wise).
transporting bladders and CLEANING them will likely result in more co2.
@0bloodshot0 large plastic items breakdown and become secondary microplastics. No plastic is good, only less bad. Glass and metal are better. Even if they're being transported, if it's en masse with other items then it's footprint is negligible. It only becomes a large issue if special trips are being made for those one off items instead of bulk transport with other things.
I'm on the fence for #3
Even with the refilling bladder - I still have to buy a bottle of oil at the store to decant, and then I have an empty bottle
Also if I finish my box and then mail it back to Spain for a refill, isn't that just increasing the carbon footprint? It's a good product, I just think it's creating a couple problems while fixing others
you have to compare the footprint of sending it back and forth to the footprint of shipping and processing all the raw materials for a new packaging every time. And and empty bottle can be reused again and again, unless you forsee a time when you will stop cooking with oil.
We are always looking to improve this (every year we tweak it a bit more), but when you send it back-it comes to us here in the UK (which is the only place we sell the oil). We pay to have the plastic fully recycled with TerraCycle so it closes the loop and the plastic is then able to be made into something new.
@@citizensofsoil oh wow, I was not expecting a reply from the source itself! That's great to hear and alleviates my concerns quite a bit, really glad to hear you're improving on processes and keeping all this in mind. All the best to you, wish you much success
Thank you for showcasing Citizens of Soil. They tick all my boxes for sustainability. I like to add one fact you may have missed. When the oil is packed in bags. You can dispense olive oil WITHOUT adding oxygen. Helps olive oil last a bit longer.
That means a lot. 🥹 And you're exactly right on keeping oxygen out of the pouring. So important for keeping the quality up!
Years back, when I was mucking about with homemade vinegars and shrubs, I learned that ancient Romans used similar things as a form of energy drinks. It struck me that if it was true it would put a different spin on the legionnaire using a "vinegar" soaked sponge at the cross.
That's super interesting!
@@SortedFoodYou guys are the Best 😊😊😊😊❤❤❤
Interesting story indeed, especially when considering that the Biblical writer has presented it as a proof of cruelty towards Jesus. Makes one wonder why.
@@erzsebetkovacs2527 I disagree about the "proof of cruelty", it's just stated as a fact without the assessment of intentions (only in Lucas' gospel it's said that the soldiers delivered vinegar while mocking Jesus - but seeing how they mockingly called him a King, it's more about giving him a simple army drink instead of a wine, which would be more appropriate for a noble or royal person. A bit like giving someone dilluted lukewarm instant coffee instead of a fresh, hot espresso). It's a later association that by seeing a word translated to "vinegar" we only think of something very sour and awful to drink. Some scholars say that an acidic drink mixed of water and immature, sour wine was a common thirst quenching drink among roman soldiers, so they had it at hand. I guess in case of shrub it should also be sweetened a bit.
It is unclear if the gesture was meant to relieve some pain by quenching convict's thirst (positive), or a way to extend the agony by nourishing the convict, or a mocking gesture with neutral drink (acting as a "servant giving the king something to drink when he's on his throne'), or a mocking gesture with a repulsive drink.
Ahhh I’m so happy something from my home country (Lithuania) made it into the video! ❤❤ We are very passionate about honey and literally everyone is 1-2 people removed from getting local honey 😂
Buy from your local beekeeper, by all means. Googled Bee Loop and I can see they are a Lithuanian company. What I don't see is how they are able to guarantee that the wax pots won't be affected by heat while being shipped and basically melt. On the other hand, beeswax makes for the best smelling candles with a wonderful sweet flowery scent even without anything added to them.
I have to agree. I just can't see how it can travel around the continent in let's be honest a flimsy beewax container. So there has to be more packaging while shipping to ensure the product comes to the buyer intact. So in the end glass jars are still a better option, as it can be directly reused by the buyer instead of being composted, turned into candles or whatever you can else you can use bee wax for.
@@StormCrusher94 Eh, idk about where you live, but here in the US, about 70% of glass jars end up in the trash, rather than being reused or recycled.
@@rdizzy1 Where I live, I just take my empty honey jar to the honey guy at the market whe I buy a new one, and he washes and reuses it.
@@rdizzy1 We reuse glass jars yearly for pickling cucumbers, paprika, sweet chilis, also different kinds of jams and marmalades. And pretty sure a lot of people in the Balkans do that too. For the ones that don't do any of that, there are glass recycle bins.
@@StormCrusher94 In the US, statistically, roughly 70% of glass in these products ends up in a landfill. Thus, products like this are better for places like this.
Not convinced that sending the bladder back via post, hygienic rinsing, refill, return shipment is actually more sustainable.
The smaller pouch (and recycling it) though has potential, I assume a glass bottle would need a lot of rounds to be more efficient.
Glass can take multiple rounds though, I doubt the pouches make more than two circles.
Yeah. It's definitely more wasteful than (what I said in another comment) a large metal tin of oil. Or glass bottles which are easily recycled. Most consumers are also not making the effort to send back a little plastic bag. So it's just adding plastic in its worst form (bags) into the trash cycle whether it's landfill or ocean dumped.
I checked their site. At $20USD for each 300ml pouch that's in the same price category as what high end US supermarket brands charge (California Olive Ranch's better varieties are about that price). Assuming their claims about single estate etc. are true you'd be getting some really good EVOO at really good prices. The pouches are opaque and airtight so basically the ideal packaging for oil.
The bag in a box doesn't even appear on their site BTW.
Agree, metal or glass are almost endlessly recyclable, so 🤔
Here in Australia, I buy local olive oil in 3L steel cans. The cans are fully recyclable and cost about $35-$49 (Au). I'm not convinced using plastic bladders at a price point of (Au $162 as at time of writing) is either sustainable or affordable.
The last segment spoke to me as a beekeeper I'm not going to lie this really does bring attention to the overall struggle that we face. Whether that's being economical, sustainable etc.
I'm not gonna lie though I'd love to donate a jar of honey from the hives in my family's garden to you guys at Sorted and see what you think
Also, the struggle of battling cheap, imported glucose syrup sold as honey. If you want real honey, find a local beekeeper. Support local ecological small scale businesses.
For those of us in the US that can't get Coffee Notes, there is another UK-based company called Martha Brook that has a similar product that will ship to the US (just the first one I found after a Google search, sure there are more). Also found notebooks on Amazon made from recycled sugarcane once the juices have been pressed out. Now I'm thoroughly intrigued by the idea and must go search for more! Thanks, Sorted!
Hey! Thanks for the interest in Coffeenotes, we’ve just opened the store for US delivery 😊
@CoffeenotesStationery Good to hear, thanks for the info! 😊
@@CoffeenotesStationerythat was quick 😂 good on ya!
Gods, I *love* how enthusiastic Mike gets, even talking over Ebbers and his product recap!! It gets you so jazzed for these amazing products, which the testing is already getting you amped for. Amazing!!
I can remember my granddad giving us "raspberry vinegar" diluted with water to drink something like 50 years ago. Shrubs are very, very easy to make - I do a couple of batches every now and again.
Thank you to the team at Sorted Food for posting this video today! I was just told that I have a non cancerous brain tumor which I did surgery for yesterday. This video has really brightened my day!
Wishing you the speediest of recoveries! Xxx
I love how Mike’s reactions and comments add so much to the discussion! Really great work🎉
appreciate the perspective and the reason for choosing these products so much!! making sustainability and the preservation of the world we live in engaging on other platforms is so important
Shrub is amazing! Suggestion for another collab with max guys! He made a raspberry one from. 1911. Your collabs with him are your best! You all work so well! What do you think?❤❤❤❤❤❤
I was gonna say the same thing! Max did a shrub episode and there’s a recipe in his cook book! Interesting ingredient for sure!
I thought the same 😹
Glen from Glen and friends cooking also made a couple of shrubs a few months back.
@@Mrhullsie2 I'll bet his used maple syrup. Mmmmm!
I was looking for a similar comment. Max did one a little while ago involving raspberry shrub and if I remember correctly the UK used to have some very affordable prices on their raspberries in comparison to here in the US. A shrub collab would be cool
Switchel, cousin to shrubs, is usually based on ginger rather than fruit and uses richer sugars such as molasses, brown sugar, or maple syrup. Vinegar is common to both. These drinks are very refreshing, especially on hot, sweaty summer workdays. They would make wonderful non-alcoholic bar drinks and encourage creativity with ingredients and presentation.
Really glad to have learned about shrubs! Now just to get stores near me carry them!
I've been making my own shrubs, specifically, grapefruit and a caradomon apple shrub for 7 years now. I love shrubs. To see it now on your channel is surprising and awesome. They are so easy to make in your own kitchen and delicious. Love it!
Love to see an episode on a cocktail/mocktajl battle. All three normals are given three parameters to make a drink within- eg. Citrusy, Herbal, bjtter- or even a video on shrubs themselves, how to make and store the syrup etc. I love shrubs, but always feel tentative making the syrups and leaving them in the fridge.
It would be wonderful, if you could provide links to the vendor of these products in upcoming videos. ☺️
Every time I see something nice the research starts 🙈
They are showing the names of the companies on screen - you can just Google them.
The first shrubs I had were at Colonial Williamsburg as a kid (non-alco, of course). They did a citrus shrub with sparkling water and a scoop of a citrus sherbet. They now sell different shrub syrups and they're delicious with sparkling water and an Outshine bar of a similar flavor.
I would buy the notebooks if they are fountain pen friendly. In the past when most people used fountain pens paper was a better quality than what is made nowadays when ink tends to bleed or feather.
The Olive oil one sounds completely insane to me. I buy olive oil in easily recycled glass bottles. In order to be more "environmentally friendly" they are shipping them in plastic? What's wrong with the glass bottles?! You're fixing a problem that doesn't exist with a far worse solution.
Hope you guys had a Merry Christmas, and a Happy New Year! May God bless all of you!
I make a 'shrub' every year with my plum harvest. Although the 1950s cookbook I got the recipe from simply calls it Plum Vinegar. I use red plums with really sour skins that adds so much delicious tang to the vinegar solution. I like to drink mine with Schweppes lime soda water. I've also used the strained fruit pulp to make cakes.
Idk about that olive oil thing. 1) shipping the used up bladder all the way to Spain or Greece cannot be efficient. 2) I doubt they reuse it - washing it thoroughly to get all the old oil out will be very hard. Easier to resend a fresh pack back and bin the old one. 3) Price of return shipping is part of the packaging cost = higher total cost for the oil. 4) Plastic is less recyclable than glass, which is less recyclable than metal. It really feels like taking a step back for recycability. 5) Plastic bladders in box wine always leave some of the product in them; it's harder to get the last drop out compared to glass or can.
A premium oil I would normally use for finishing, etc.... But that blue packet only had a shelf life of 3 months as per the description (once opened.)
Exactly, I don’t see that packaging as being responsible in the least. The most responsible packaging for olive oil is the very traditional metal tin which is 100% recyclable. Steel and aluminum are almost always recycled if disposed of as recycling; plastic is not. Even glass is better than plastic for both the longevity of the oil and for the planet. And if you want a refillable glass bottle, make it a sturdy glass bottle that is returned for deposit, rather than producing millions upon millions of plastic bags to refill it. Soda used to be sold that way in the US until the beverage industry successfully built the lie of recyclable plastics to relieve themselves of what they considered the hassle of return for deposit glass bottles.
Hi Joanna! All extra virgin olive oil should be used within 3 months of opening to get the best out of the oil. That's not specific to our oils-it's something we were taught by industry experts and reports around the best quality. We only state it as we want to ensure people get the best out of our oils (from both the nutritional and flavour side). You can, of course, use it beyond that-but as our oils are extra virgin which is like a fruit juice-we encourage using them the way the farmers and producers recommend.
Andalusian here: a liter of extra Virgin olive oil lasts in my parent's house one week or two at most 😅 I don't even think it should be used after 6 months
Perhaps i missed it, but wouldn't it be better for the bee keepers to keep the wax that the bees produce instead of sending it back and forth in the form of a jar?
I'm still very iffy on the idea of creating more transport via sending stuff back instead of more local recycling.
Glass bottles do break but they are also nigh infinitely recyclable. Compared to plastics which are not, while they weigh less, they also create q ton of microplastics and other less appealing stuff.
I would for sure give all a try especially the honey and oil. But being in the US these items may be hard for me to get but I would surely give them all a go, thanks guys you are great to watch and great information on items!
this is by far the best food trends video of sorted I have ever seen.
Good start of 2024, Sorted!
I would love to write my ideas in those coffee note books. That's the best Item among the four showcased in the video.
And as usual,👍(liked)!
I am all in favour of the sentiment, but it would be so nice to participate in 'saving the world' without spending £85 on olive oil and an eye-watering £30 for a jar of honey that Mike seemed to break just by touching it.
Not to mention that the vast majority of pollution isn't from individual people, but from large corporations, refineries, factories, cars, trucks... I'm pretty sure the largest polluter of the oceans is the fishing industry with all the garbage and nets they dump.
Recycling as a way to save the world was mainly made up by large petrochemical companies as a way to offload the cost and responsibility of reducing pollution onto the local governments and individual people.
That's my issue with these things, they make you conscious and guilty of everything and put the world's problems on you, but then they are unaffordable to a vast majority of people. And I get it is new technology and new advances, and in time if it becomes the new normal and more people/companies start doing it that can bring the price down, as it being new/ethical is what can hike the price up. But it still doesn't change that right now it just isn't affordable for so many of us, which can make that guilt and shame even worse
And as the other person said, pollution and waste is put on us as the consumers, but we are forced to purchase the products the manufacturers make, with the very often under paid budgets we are given. Greedy higher ups are the reason we can't afford these products, and greedy higher ups are the reason we're having to buy these unethical and unsustainable products, and those greedy higher ups are really the biggest issue
Then vote.
There are political groups advocating for the return of mandate on glass for ex (so that recycling is paid by the producer)
We live in democracies, we get to choose. As long as people are voting for right/central parties colluding with industrial magnates, no wonder things fall on the consumers...
@@etienne8110what about countries like China and India they pollute horribly (Us behind them) they aren’t exactly a democracy
@@LTDLetsPlays an indian pollutes 10 times less than an american.
Same.for a chinese if you take into account the amount of products the factories are manufacturing for us...
Stop looking elsewhere and tidy up your own room. 😉
I haven't bought a takeaway coffee for a while but I always take a keep cup with me. I was doing that a few years before it got popular and it was hard to find the coffee cups with a lid. I also took my own little bowl with a lid and spoon with me and if I wanted a take away cake and coffee I used my stuff instead of all the paper and plastic wrap. I know when I was a kid, paper straws were coated in a wax so they wouldn't dissolve in your drink.
I like these videos. It shows how things change but also kind of stay the same. Thank you
the shot from 12:23 where you can see the sorted food neon in ebbers glasses, splendid!
Aye!
As a teetotaling calligrapher, I really loved this video. If this is the direction trends are going then I can definitely get behind them. My friends and family may even get Christmas cards in 2024 because there’s a sale on some that are made in a way that doesn’t seem irresponsible and wasteful. Thanks. Keep up the good work!
with the honey, you could also reuse the wax yourself, if you're a sewist (when hand sewing, you run the thread over beeswax or somesuch other wax to keep the thread from fraying as it passes through the fabric over and over again), or you could melt it down and coat fabric in it to create beeswax wraps for covering bowls, cut fruit, or to enclose a sandwich in your lunch box.
Interesting that shrubs have a similar history to cocktails, which were an invention of the underground booze culture of Prohibition-era America. With the sale of booze outlawed, speakeasies started offering bootleg hooch(not renowned for its quality control) mixed with all manner of things to mask the unpleasant flavors that came along with the sketchy distillation, storage, and transport.
If you want to ensure freshness in your olive oil, you buy it by the can - which is also recyclable.
I've been watching you for years and never commented! But this episode deserves the first ever comment. From doing the research to find the honey pot, to how well you all explained the need for the prices and the trickle down of innovation. Well done! I'm a proud Sorted fan 💛💚
I am SOLD on Citizens of soil! I am definitely buying the olive oil.
Oil you want! So nice to hear it. 🙌
Coffee Notes sounds amazing. I hope they, or someone else, does this all over the world.
I wonder how they are able to separate paper and plastic, though, because this has been a near universal problem for years now. Sometimes, I have even opted out of buying takeout coffee when I was able to see beforehand that I would be served in a plastic lined cup.
Shrubs are amazing! Glad to see them get a shout ou! Fermentation rocks!
Yes it is great that they are recycling coffee cups. But it is still a lot of energy for initial production and recycling. It is better to carry your own reusable tumbler.
so great to see people and companies working to make things more sustainable not just for the environment but for everyone involved, from the farmers to the buyers. i need to look into options like this in Australia cause i can imagine it would tip the scale back again if i was to buy and have shipped over here.
4 wonderful products!! Thanks of. much for introducing us to these great products. Certainly plan to get the coffee notes and the olive oil.
I had heard of shurbs but could not have told you exactly what was in them. I am so glad people are becoming more responsible in packaging and growing.
I would love to see a dedicated episode on shrubs. I made Concord grape and cranberry shrubs this year, and they were a huge hit.
How much would the same honey have cost in a jar, it is nice to be responsible for waste but there are limits, €30 seems rather a lot.
Moreover the bees wax could be given back right away to the bees or not taken away at all.
Depends on how much the wax weighs, and what type of honey it is. Wax is scarce and I wouldn't be surprised if it's half that price or more. It has to be melted, filtered, and molded.
All three are fabulous ideas. The honey pots are my favourites , I love the idea of being able to give the pot to any bee keeper to return to the bees. I can really get on board with this. May even be worth keeping one pot to melt down to revitalise wax wraps.
For the Bee Loop product, I would set the whole container in a small ceramic container just in case I break the wax. Once I have used all the honey, the wax could be used as a candle.
On the transportation of containers, repeatedly making & transporting individual ones can be wasteful energy wise. I still remember the local grocer in the village having bulk containers of some things which he used to fill your reusable container you took to him. Some delis will still do this with things like olive & other oils. Maybe now we've trained people to bring their own carrier bags shopping, grocers, other shops & supermarkets could pass on savings by encouraging customers to bring their own boxes & containers to buy certain food stuffs? It's why I thought it was crazy that lemonade companies got rid of the 10p deposit scheme they used to do on pop bottles just as recycling bottles became the norm.
I'm lucky I get my milk delivered, so they pick up the glass bottles when I get my delivery. So constant renewal. I remember they tried the Canadian method of selling milk in plastic bags (you need a special jug to pour it from) in the UK in the 70's but it didn't take off. It works in Canada so why couldn't it work here with a bit more thought?
Coffee Notes has a 50% off sale and I got a 10% coupon for being a first time visitor. This made a planner I was interested in $9.50 USD. I live in Arizona so the shipping was $3 more than the actual product 😅. I’m so excited for it to arrive, though!
I mean the choice between an infinitely reusable glass bottle and a plastic bag is pretty easy.
I've seen the boxed oil more and more in Canada. Especially in the stores who lean more towards Zero Waste. It's been really great to be honest, it makes refilling the oil container so much easier, especially if you can just bring own bottle into the shops to refill there.
Shrubs sounds interesting, I'll love to try!
I just posted a similar response about bringing your own containers. Doesn't Canada still also still sell milk in plastic bags which you pop in a jug, snipping the corner off? They tried it here in UK in the 70's but the idea didn't take off. I think with a bit of perseverance it could work here.
@@Getpojke Not all parts of Canada but a fair amount do have that! It's not common where I am but it's all my mum buys.
@@Getpojke They used to sell milk in these plastic pouches in Hungary when I was a child. I wish they still did that instead of tetrapak which, how does one recycle that anyway?
@@erzsebetkovacs2527 I get my milk delivered in glass bottles which the driver picks up again next delivery. But I think the bags would be so much better when buying from the supermarket/shops. I don't know if its an infrastructure thing but seemingly about 97% of local authorities in the UK can recycle Tetrapak containers in the UK? I don't imagine its cheap to do though!?
@@accio_braincells It seems a more sensible way to buy/sell it. I checked after my initial post & seemingly Sainsbury's tried it again in 2008 in the UK. Seemingly interest waned & they stopped the experiment in 2015.
I’ve been using sidekick loving it! And using it alongside a diet to lose weight it’s adding so much exciting diversity in my meals completely forgetting I’m even on an diet
Some of the prices in here could make this a pretentious crossover!
Shrubs are easy to make , have done so for years, great with mineral water
I genuinely want to try some many of these. Thank you Sorted for already getting me prepared for 2024. 😊
I love all of these! I'll have to see if they all send to the states. I don't know how many products I've bought because of this channel. Got my sister the licorice salt for a gift, the miracle berries & szechuan buds just to try, & that many jars of that Pommery Dijon mustard. Thank you from highlighting all of these cool products!
LOVE these food trends videos! Give me much more to explore and taste!
In french Caribbean, Schrub is an orange peels and spices rum, traditionally for christmas.
19:33 Barry and Ben are the best of friends,
They live together in a country cottage,
They like to share baths as it saves water,
Scrub my back Ben,
Ok moving on 😂😂
The olive oil is extremely expensive - seems to me that you are paying a lot for the intermediary.
You can buy top Greek olive oil for less directly from producers, with shipping about the same price for 5l instead of 3l…
Nice to see shrubs making an appearance. The vinegar along with the sugar helped to preserve the fruit too. And “fruit vinegar” and sparkling water has been a “thing” for as long as fruit vinegars have existed.
the oil in the box should last a long time because air can't get into the bladder. you can tuck that in your store cupboard and use it to fill your nice looking glass bottle you keep in the kitchen :D
I absolutely hate the fact that anytime something "recycled" or "sustainable" comes to market, they feel the need to charge a metric butt ton more than the average. Why does something that comes from waste need to be more expensive, other than for profit?
How do people predict what is going to be big and what isn’t? That would be a fun video to see who and why companies think foods are going to be big! Always fascinated me
There's a coffee shop near me that serves its coffee in cups made of recycled coffee grounds. A very odd, but rather pleasant texture.
Now that's super interesting!
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Australian, is it?
So early in the year and there are already trends for you guys to show us! Amazing! You guys are the Best 😊😊😊😊❤❤❤❤
You guys have the best job!
We're very lucky :)
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As a bartending nerd, I knew exactly what was in those glasses once they said fruity and vinegar. Shrubs work really well with seltzer. And soft fruits (berries especially) are generally easier to use to make them. Stone fruits as well.
0:19 Ebbers' first "lift the cloche" was so British, I thought Stephen Fry was in the room
Quote of the Day: “I do NOTE like them.” Great one!
I have my olive oil (mine is from Spain) in a box because this way it keeps better, and it's better for the world. Love it.
Beeswax can also be used for water impregnation on shoes and coats, etc, or wax cloths for food sealing, and so on. You really have to be aware how it works though, so you don't ruin utensils or plumbing. It's true beeswax is rare, expensive and antibacterial, and can be returned to the bees provided it's prepared correctly. Most beekeepers want honey and very few focus on wax production. If the honey is very dark it is almost always from heather, but sometimes lice.
I love every one of these products and wish we could have them in the US. Hoping beekeepers here are paying attention cuz a lot of us would love that beautiful honey pot. Great video guys!
Shrubs are really easy to make!! I got into them like 6 years back from a friend who makes wild soda and grows tons of things in his backyard. Not that you shouldn't buy them, but definitely give it a try at home as well :)
edit: Learning that people are figuring out how to recycle plastic lined paper goods is wonderful!
Always have fun with food trends! One of my favorite series guys! Thanks
I wish you could have an episode like this for the US. I know you have a lot of viewers from here that would like to see things like this that we can have access to. I really liked the Coffee Notes, but they are unable to ship to me in the US (Pennsylvania).
But maybe some of the American solutions are not available to be sent to the UK?
@@tildehenriksen6242 maybe something in between with shipping more open.
Of all these, I'm most interested in the olive oil one. It is kinda odd how we just keep buying glass bottles of oil and you kinda have to toss them. I keep a few, mainly for syrups and stuff (the pourer that comes in the bottle is quite nice to ease pouring while making cocktails), but I only need like 3 or 4.
And for the honey one, I buy my honey from a local beekeeper. She drops off a couple jars, I give her the old ones, and then she flies off on her e-scooter.
I love the olive oil story. But the bee wax container has me a bit perplexed... Where do they get so much bee wax from to make the containers, if not from bees who as you said, work their little tuchies off making the comb.
Each winter a hive goes into a form of hibernation and form a ball of bees. That means the frames used for honey string get removed, either to be melted down or store and returned to the bees next spring. In spring the bees start their yearly life cycle of frantically and effectively expanding their hive to produce as many bees to make the hive large enough the coming winter. If the weather holds the hives can become huge, but there many variables that can cause a hive to die. Dry summer weather makes the queen not lay eggs as to not empty the food storage, and mild winters can kill hives because the temps signals spring too early and they start expanding too quickly before spring flowers and trees have begun producing pollen and nectar.
Just checked out Citizens of Soil. Looks cool. They do have bottles, but they look like they'd be just as awkward as the box or pouch to deal with. I'd love to see them offer a really user-friendly, product-protecting, refillable, PRETTY bottle. Make me want to keep it on the table and drizzle flawlessly for my guests.
Yes, love this! And it's something we're working on...
The first one they reviewed has inspired me. There are so many drinks that come to mind. I am wondering if a dessert with the shrubs. Love the history part of the shrub thanks Ben. I enjoy the history aspect of it.
Thanks for another video, you guys rock. I can't wait for actual cooking videos again. Those are my absolute favourites. Enough with ingredients and gadgets already ;-) Cook something!!!!
Adding shrubs and the Olive Oil refills to my list. Remembered that my Mum used to ferment 'cooling' shrubs during the hot weather in 🇹🇹
We're here for olive it. 🫒
I like all of these sustainable products, I hope they start utilising them world wide especially here is Australia
Alton Browns cranberry shrub is a christmas staple! so excited to see shrubs come up!
Keep in mind though, that wild bees (solitary bees) do about 90% of the pollination. There are hundreds of species across the globe, and they need protection badly. They live in a wide range of habitats, and need not only flowers (some of them are extremely specific about their diet) but also nesting places and materials to build their nest, for which they each have their preference too.
Citizens of soil-I wish there were something like that in the US!
Maybe someday... 🤩
Glad to see shrubs get a shout out! It was my first foray into home fermentation.
Oh nice! These cordials were fantastic. Maybe you could try making your own?
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On the olive oil, if they were doing it in cans maybe. But I don't want microplastics in yet another product.
Shrubs was also the first energy drink, it just to mixed to water for workers on a hot day.
I think the weird ash drink that roman gladiators drank is often given that appellation.
I'm guessing James cropper is the paper mill coffee notes use, good company, we use waste paper from them to bed cows, once the fibres are too short to form paper we buy it and makes great bedding, keeps our fields from being too acidic and breaks down great on fields for fertilizer once the cows are done with it
I’m on board with any company that cares about helping the environment
Thanks for sharing all the great sustainability initiatives.