Barry, your reviews remind me a lot of how automotive journalism used to be. Factual, concise, and straight to the point. No holds barred and critical while remaining largely impartial. You are also a very good presenter, Top Gear in the 90's would have been blessed to have you. 10/10! I have this seat on order and it should be here tomorrow!
Barry, thank you. I ordered this seat a week ago on a whim after almost spending $1000 on a bride seat. Then I started searching about this seat and wasn’t sure if I made a good choice (kinda backwards). I asked in Reddit and realized a lot of people use the NRG seats for sim racing. I’m glad I found you made a review as well, as I trust you opinion.
I WAS looking for a recommended seat on the cheap Side. Thanks Barry for the video helping me decide - just pulled the trigger in the cart for my NRG prisma in GOLD. ;)
Another great review Barry! And it sealed the deal for for on the seat that came with my Obutto Revolution sim rig. Not in the same class as your setup but I'm happy with it overall. Obutto seat is not great however. Came across a suggestion for the NRG Prism and you happened to do a nice review. Thanks for all your efforts and supporting the sim racing crowd!
OMP makes a few sub $500 seats that are good and more readily available. Just picked up a TRS-E for less than $400 out the door from a local race shop. I would definitely recommend sitting in the seat before buying to make sure it fits you correctly. Just because it looks good online, doesn't mean it will fit your body comfortably.
Thanks for this, Barry! I’ve been looking to replace my older Recaro seat I pulled out of my Honda S2000 to install on my sim rig about 5 years ago and didn’t want to spend $800+ on a new Recaro or Sparco. I went with the NRG FRP-310, it doesn’t have the flake finish on the back, but does have a nice dark gray shiny matte finish. So glad you reviewed this seat, thanks again!
Picked one up from autoplicity, looks good and seems to be comfortable. Mounting it was an absolute nightmare. The holes were drilled 5/16” higher and 1/4” forward one side to the other. Lots of shimming and second guessing.
The problem with the brackets is that as attached, the maximum distance from one side to the other for the holes(slots) is 15.5". Standard slider distance is 16.0". So unless you bend the slider bar to reduce the distance between or use some spacers between the brackets and seat, standard sliders will be difficult to use. Fortunately, the P1-X has brackets you can get that have a section that angles in so the side to side distance from hole to hole should fit a standard slider unit.
Can't you bend the bar of the Sim-Lab slider to change its width? Or is that just too difficult to do such that you're better off ordering the Sim-Lab seat brackets?
If ever I actually have my own sim racing cockpit, I want one of these. Because they come in pink, and I spent hours trying to find a pink one without any luck until now. Thanks, Barry! My only concern is the whole "cancer-causing materials" warning on its page.. Hmmnn..
For whats its worth its a California thing. According to the state of California almost everything gives you cancer, due to them being based in California they have to put that. Not something to worry about.
@@tehgusbus2716 my seat is just fiberglass and cheap materials. Mine smell really musty when I got it and the box was beat to shit, but it was in a plastic cover. I went through a lot of febreze to get the dusty musty smell out. The seat in the video is better build quality and use a full Alcantara material, my seat is just cloth and cheap fiberglass with some flex in the seat.
@@tehgusbus2716 it's a very good budget seat. My experience can be different from yours when it comes to shipping. I got mine in poor packaging. I would recommend it to anyone. The next best seat and quite a few euro youtubers have it, which is the OMP (HA/741E/R TRS-E Racing Seat, Red www.amazon.com/dp/B00MB2GIM4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_O1MVDb3ZBXTP8.
Huh. Their website claims it is Alcantara, but you're right, I've never seen Alcantara that looks like that, with the long pile or whatever you'd call it. I wonder if you can get different types of Alcantara and this is an unusual one?
Great review once again! Hey, do you have any experience with the OMP TRS-E seat? If you do, how would you compare it to this? Thanks again for what you do. Super helpful!
I know what you mean about the cheap fabrics some manufactures use. It did have a smell when removed from the box. But not anything over powering. And after that, I never noticed it anymore. The fabric has not bled at all.
So the seat comes with brackets but when Barry mounts to the rig he is using different red brackets. Why? I am looking to get a trak racer tr80 and don’t know if o need to buy their brackets or can use the one that homes with the seat.
@@simracinggarage3026 Barry, do you mind double checking? The 302 that you show in the video and link to in the description is the Large, while the Medium is model 303.
Hey Barry...??? Thanks for this nice seat review..!!! 🤔 The big question I have is when can we expect the cockpit review..??? 😉👌 This system looks to be the next best motion solution to the NLR Traction+ offering..!!! 😎👍
Barry says it's a Medium, but the 302 model number shown in the video and the link is the Large while the Medium is 303. I asked Barry to double check.
Anyone know if this Prisma will bolt up without drilling more holes on a DOF H2? Also, does anyone know how well the NRG SBR-001 seat slider works with the Prisma?
Hey Barry, Just curious what motion system you have on your rig currently. Looking for one for my gt1 evo and not sure what route to go. It appears you have 3 27” monitors as well so I’m assuming that not having a 179 degree fov isn’t that big of a deal which was something I was worried about previously having to up my monitor size. Thanks, Cody
Gotcha, that’s a lot of cash for a motion rig. Have you thought about trying the sfx 100 DIY system? I feel like you’d be a perfect person to do a build and review video for that system!
So I’m new to sim racing and automotive sports in general. I am currently overseas and just playing on a laptop with an Xbox controller but am thinking of going all out on a sim rig when I get home. I’m thinking of doing an all Fanatec setup and at this point am trying to figure out what chassis to get. I am also an avid flight simmer and would like to be able to mount my collective, cyclic and pedals as well as a thrustmaster warthog Hotas setup for fixed wing. I know this is a long list of requirements for one cockpit but I’m hoping that someone here has done something similar and can point me in the right direction.
Currently looking at the JCL v2+, RSEAT and Trak racer. I really like the idea of the modularity on the JCL but that is definitely pushing the limits on my budget.
@@craig3665 The general recommendation is to do an 8020 modular setup, such as the excellent P1-X offered by Sim-Lab. If it's just a Hotas, you could easily and quickly add it on and off with a couple attachments. If it's also rudder pedals, you'd have to get more creative, but people have done so before. It's definitely expensive when you add everything up. One approach is to get a great frame like the P1-X and pair it with a really inexpensive, but still good, setup like the Logitech G29 - which is only $200-260 for the wheel, three pedals, and an H shifter. And from there you can upgrade it over time to high-end equipment like ProtoSimTech or Hueskenveld pedals, Fanatec shifter, Hueskenveld hand brake, and a direct drive wheelbase like the SimuCube 2. You'll never need to replace the frame, and while it may take longer, you'll save money in the long run by skipping the mid-tier Fanatec stuff and going direct from the super affordable G29 to the high-end gear that you'll probably want to upgrade to eventually anyway.
Word of advise, never by a seat online, you have to fit the seat before you buy! There plenty local race-shops that sell FIA certifate seats for around $300. Gwenndolynn
Why do you need a FIA seat for simracing? There are a lot of good seats non FIA for simracing, and you don't need to pay for homologation, i know a brand that make the exact same seats with and without FIA homologation, and you save around 100€ in the same seat.
That warning is on many many products just because the state of California requires it to be there. It really does not reflect on the properties of the seat. You will see that same warning on electronics - musical gear and on and on.
What it should is "This Product Can Expose You To Certain Chemicals Known To The State Of Cancer To Cause California Or Reproductive Toxicity, Such As Lead Or DI(2-Ethylhexyl) Phthalate."
Prop 65 warnings are on McDonald, Starbucks, courthouse ex..they are every where and on all products in California its the law just google it see the images there every where.. some bumper chaser lawyers go around and sue if you don't have them glad to see this review! The Nrg products are on my sim rig !
Every time I watch a review from sim racing garage you drive those modern GT3-cars. They are boring in my eyes. Try cars that bring more fun like Group C or Group 5 with clutch, shifter, heel & toe. Oh sorry, it's not possible in I-Racing, right?
roemer7000 you have Nissan GTP which is essentially a successor to the Group C cars. The Audi 90 GTO and all the retro formula cars are three-pedal affairs too.
There are a lot of 3 pedal cars in iRacing and you can see him heel-toe shifting in a lot of his videos, mainly when reviewing shifters and pedal sets. Are you not on iRacing? It’s really a fantastic driving simulator and has made me a much better driver overall.
Are you seriously telling me there's more to a *quick release* (50+ minute video) than a racing seat (15+ minutes)??? They're both about the same when it comes to ease-of-use, build quality and cost...so why two drastically different length videos?
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Barry, your reviews remind me a lot of how automotive journalism used to be. Factual, concise, and straight to the point. No holds barred and critical while remaining largely impartial. You are also a very good presenter, Top Gear in the 90's would have been blessed to have you. 10/10! I have this seat on order and it should be here tomorrow!
Barry, thank you. I ordered this seat a week ago on a whim after almost spending $1000 on a bride seat. Then I started searching about this seat and wasn’t sure if I made a good choice (kinda backwards). I asked in Reddit and realized a lot of people use the NRG seats for sim racing. I’m glad I found you made a review as well, as I trust you opinion.
Barry, your reviews are second to none! Thank you so much!
"It's real velour, let yourself go" - Zapp Brannigan
I WAS looking for a recommended seat on the cheap Side. Thanks Barry for the video helping me decide - just pulled the trigger in the cart for my NRG prisma in GOLD. ;)
How you like it?
Another excellent review, very helpful, I am getting into sim racing and picked this seat up today, more excited now that you recommend it.
Your reviews have pushed me to an ASR6 and now this seat.. my bank account hates you but I love ya!!! Thanks for the great review content :)
I need a reclining seat. Sometimes I like to pass out and take a nap in my rig.
NRG makes a really comfy one. www.getnrg.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=530
@@frankth3frizz That's a nice looking seat. I have a Sparco R100. Its the vinyl version, easy to clean up drool after a nap.
Another great review Barry! And it sealed the deal for for on the seat that came with my Obutto Revolution sim rig. Not in the same class as your setup but I'm happy with it overall. Obutto seat is not great however. Came across a suggestion for the NRG Prism and you happened to do a nice review. Thanks for all your efforts and supporting the sim racing crowd!
Yet another wish list item for me - as a bigger guy this seems like a great option for the rig I plan to build next year.
OMP makes a few sub $500 seats that are good and more readily available. Just picked up a TRS-E for less than $400 out the door from a local race shop. I would definitely recommend sitting in the seat before buying to make sure it fits you correctly. Just because it looks good online, doesn't mean it will fit your body comfortably.
Miss your videos... I'm in the market for a new seat.
Thanks for this, Barry! I’ve been looking to replace my older Recaro seat I pulled out of my Honda S2000 to install on my sim rig about 5 years ago and didn’t want to spend $800+ on a new Recaro or Sparco. I went with the NRG FRP-310, it doesn’t have the flake finish on the back, but does have a nice dark gray shiny matte finish. So glad you reviewed this seat, thanks again!
Barry you are the man 👍
Only thing I think you left out is the seat comes in different sizes so you are able to get a smaller seat to fit your body.
Fantastic review. Answered all my questions thank you!
I'll have enough for a dd2 and Sprint pedals by Christmas and I'm gonna build simulator and I think I have a canadate for the seat.
Sounds like a great setup.
Picked one up from autoplicity, looks good and seems to be comfortable. Mounting it was an absolute nightmare. The holes were drilled 5/16” higher and 1/4” forward one side to the other. Lots of shimming and second guessing.
Oh man that would drive me insane. It's the issue I'm having now using a normal car seat and the reason I want a bucket
The problem with the brackets is that as attached, the maximum distance from one side to the other for the holes(slots) is 15.5". Standard slider distance is 16.0". So unless you bend the slider bar to reduce the distance between or use some spacers between the brackets and seat, standard sliders will be difficult to use. Fortunately, the P1-X has brackets you can get that have a section that angles in so the side to side distance from hole to hole should fit a standard slider unit.
Can't you bend the bar of the Sim-Lab slider to change its width?
Or is that just too difficult to do such that you're better off ordering the Sim-Lab seat brackets?
Is that an issue with just the brackets not the seat?
I was looking a a Bride seat too! Sold!!
If ever I actually have my own sim racing cockpit, I want one of these. Because they come in pink, and I spent hours trying to find a pink one without any luck until now. Thanks, Barry! My only concern is the whole "cancer-causing materials" warning on its page.. Hmmnn..
For whats its worth its a California thing. According to the state of California almost everything gives you cancer, due to them being based in California they have to put that. Not something to worry about.
that warning is literally on every product
If you don't live in Cali, those warnings don't apply to you 🤣 (you're fine)
I have to $200 NRG FRP 311 on my rig and love it. It’s was a Bit musty when I got it and the box it came in was trashed, but I love the seat.
whats the difference why is this one 150$ more
@@tehgusbus2716 my seat is just fiberglass and cheap materials. Mine smell really musty when I got it and the box was beat to shit, but it was in a plastic cover. I went through a lot of febreze to get the dusty musty smell out. The seat in the video is better build quality and use a full Alcantara material, my seat is just cloth and cheap fiberglass with some flex in the seat.
@@AmariMaahes would you buy it again? Dang you make me not want it lol
@@tehgusbus2716 it's a very good budget seat. My experience can be different from yours when it comes to shipping. I got mine in poor packaging. I would recommend it to anyone. The next best seat and quite a few euro youtubers have it, which is the OMP (HA/741E/R TRS-E Racing Seat, Red www.amazon.com/dp/B00MB2GIM4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_O1MVDb3ZBXTP8.
Dude i just noticed you also fly FPV lol, looking at those quads on the wall
Ken Chen FPV, sim racing, motorcycles, road cycling, archery, and more. Barry does it all.
@simracinggarage Sparco has started doing seats like this for "gaming/sims" without the FIA certificate, they only do 2/3 models but they cost less
sold me on the seat
Great vid as always.
Well, the price has definitely changed a year later. It’s $400 now. Still worth to give it a shot?
Barry you are the man 👍 you live simracing dream's 🏁
Huh. Their website claims it is Alcantara, but you're right, I've never seen Alcantara that looks like that, with the long pile or whatever you'd call it. I wonder if you can get different types of Alcantara and this is an unusual one?
Great review once again! Hey, do you have any experience with the OMP TRS-E seat? If you do, how would you compare it to this? Thanks again for what you do. Super helpful!
Great review. How much does it weigh?
I am a big guy 320, 22"to 23" hips can any other big guy tell me if this seat worked for them?
Does it have a powerful chemical smell like poor materials do? Does the ink from the material bleed into your clothes?
I know what you mean about the cheap fabrics some manufactures use. It did have a smell when removed from the box. But not anything over powering. And after that, I never noticed it anymore. The fabric has not
bled at all.
What about using a NRG seat in real life for hpde/autocross
So the seat comes with brackets but when Barry mounts to the rig he is using different red brackets. Why? I am looking to get a trak racer tr80 and don’t know if o need to buy their brackets or can use the one that homes with the seat.
Barry, was this the medium or the large Prisma that you reviewed? Love your stuff, thanks!
Medium.
@@simracinggarage3026
Barry, do you mind double checking?
The 302 that you show in the video and link to in the description is the Large, while the Medium is model 303.
@@simracinggarage3026 Looking for an answer to this if you can still check. Thanks!
Hey Barry...??? Thanks for this nice seat review..!!! 🤔 The big question I have is when can we expect the cockpit review..??? 😉👌 This system looks to be the next best motion solution to the NLR Traction+ offering..!!! 😎👍
Coming soon.
Barry, when is the Simucube 2 Ultimate review? Looks like a great base I see !
Soon as I can get my hands on one.
@simracinggarage what size did you get Barry?
Hey I heard you have a video for full motion seat belts but I can’t find it. Could you link it to me please?
I went to the site(CARID) to possibly order one. I am in Ohio and the shipping was $162 and the tax was $32. So the $308 seat became $502.
You could order it from nrg themselves or kseriesparts for cheaper
Ignacio Becerra see my other comment. I got it for about 250 from autoplicity. You can’t get it cheaper from NRG.
I'm 6"2 210 will I fit ok? There isn't much info on sizing compatibilitiy
Is this a medium or large? Im a 34 waist 6' 2". I dont mind a snug fit for a better response in my motion rig.
It's a medium. I'm 32" waist and I have room to move around in it.
Barry says it's a Medium, but the 302 model number shown in the video and the link is the Large while the Medium is 303. I asked Barry to double check.
How tall were the other drivers? I'm 6'4“, but only 170 lbs. My waist would fit the medium well but I'm not sure how the height would suite me.
What size seat did you get im 5 11 150 i ordered lrg but i want it to be snug i heard med was really really small
Is there a large difference between this and the NRG FRP 301 seat?
They about the same. Just the cloth material is different. Prisma is half an inch wider but feels about the same
Their website doesn't seem to load correctly, and there is no add to cart option, did this company go out of business?
Could buy a brand new sparco sprint for about the same price
Hi there from Australia
How dose this compare to Sparco Grid Q bucket seat?
Anyone know if this Prisma will bolt up without drilling more holes on a DOF H2? Also, does anyone know how well the NRG SBR-001 seat slider works with the Prisma?
👍
Hey Barry, Just curious what motion system you have on your rig currently. Looking for one for my gt1 evo and not sure what route to go. It appears you have 3 27” monitors as well so I’m assuming that not having a 179 degree fov isn’t that big of a deal which was something I was worried about previously having to up my monitor size.
Thanks,
Cody
D-Box is what I use. I prefer my triple 27" setup over other sizes I have tried.
Gotcha, that’s a lot of cash for a motion rig. Have you thought about trying the sfx 100 DIY system? I feel like you’d be a perfect person to do a build and review video for that system!
So I’m new to sim racing and automotive sports in general. I am currently overseas and just playing on a laptop with an Xbox controller but am thinking of going all out on a sim rig when I get home. I’m thinking of doing an all Fanatec setup and at this point am trying to figure out what chassis to get.
I am also an avid flight simmer and would like to be able to mount my collective, cyclic and pedals as well as a thrustmaster warthog Hotas setup for fixed wing. I know this is a long list of requirements for one cockpit but I’m hoping that someone here has done something similar and can point me in the right direction.
Currently looking at the JCL v2+, RSEAT and Trak racer. I really like the idea of the modularity on the JCL but that is definitely pushing the limits on my budget.
@@craig3665
The general recommendation is to do an 8020 modular setup, such as the excellent P1-X offered by Sim-Lab. If it's just a Hotas, you could easily and quickly add it on and off with a couple attachments. If it's also rudder pedals, you'd have to get more creative, but people have done so before.
It's definitely expensive when you add everything up. One approach is to get a great frame like the P1-X and pair it with a really inexpensive, but still good, setup like the Logitech G29 - which is only $200-260 for the wheel, three pedals, and an H shifter. And from there you can upgrade it over time to high-end equipment like ProtoSimTech or Hueskenveld pedals, Fanatec shifter, Hueskenveld hand brake, and a direct drive wheelbase like the SimuCube 2. You'll never need to replace the frame, and while it may take longer, you'll save money in the long run by skipping the mid-tier Fanatec stuff and going direct from the super affordable G29 to the high-end gear that you'll probably want to upgrade to eventually anyway.
Is it good for a larger size guy. I’m 6’4 220. I messed up and have bee using a seat to small that hurts my hip. So I need it at least 15” across
The one I have is a medium. They also make a large that should accommodate I think.
Does anyone know is these seats slide which is my main concern
I'm looking for a bucket seat which fits my size... I'm 6'7 or 200cm and about or 240lbs 110kg.
The Prisma would not be good fit for you. NRG does have some large sized seats: www.getnrg.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=169_201_203
Are you swedish?
@@DennisKarlsson Nope. I'm from the Netherlands.
@@simracinggarage3026 Thanks, I'll take a look at those!
@@erik7028 ok =)
Is this seat a larg or a medium?
Can you share the info on that seat belt set up Barry
Schroth Profi II-6
Go check www.jcl-simracing.fr
Is the audiosync off?
You need a man bun now Barry
What is the best website to purchase one?
Word of advise, never by a seat online, you have to fit the seat before you buy!
There plenty local race-shops that sell FIA certifate seats for around $300.
Gwenndolynn
Agree!
Where is a race shop that sells $300 FIA seat?
choudofu , where you from?
Why do you need a FIA seat for simracing? There are a lot of good seats non FIA for simracing, and you don't need to pay for homologation, i know a brand that make the exact same seats with and without FIA homologation, and you save around 100€ in the same seat.
Just bought an OMP from lane automotive that is FIA certified for less than $400 out the door.
Was this the large or medium seat?
Medium
Is that the large or the medium size version of the seat?
Medium
@@simracinggarage3026 Thanks, Barry. As always, OUTSTANDING reviews!
Is it safe if put in car ?
yes
Does it recline?
no
Does the shoulder harness protect you in case of a simulated accident?
What size seat?
Medium.
Thank you!
The BIG WARNING on there site dosen't make me want to buy it.
same here
That warning is on many many products just because the state of California requires it to be there. It really does not reflect on the properties of the seat.
You will see that same warning on electronics - musical gear and on and on.
What it should is "This Product Can Expose You To Certain Chemicals Known To The State Of Cancer To Cause California Or Reproductive Toxicity, Such As Lead Or DI(2-Ethylhexyl) Phthalate."
Prop 65 warnings are on McDonald, Starbucks, courthouse ex..they are every where and on all products in California its the law just google it see the images there every where.. some bumper chaser lawyers go around and sue if you don't have them glad to see this review! The Nrg products are on my sim rig !
First
Every time I watch a review from sim racing garage you drive those modern GT3-cars. They are boring in my eyes. Try cars that bring more fun like Group C or Group 5 with clutch, shifter, heel & toe.
Oh sorry, it's not possible in I-Racing, right?
roemer7000 you have Nissan GTP which is essentially a successor to the Group C cars. The Audi 90 GTO and all the retro formula cars are three-pedal affairs too.
There are a lot of 3 pedal cars in iRacing and you can see him heel-toe shifting in a lot of his videos, mainly when reviewing shifters and pedal sets. Are you not on iRacing? It’s really a fantastic driving simulator and has made me a much better driver overall.
Are you seriously telling me there's more to a *quick release* (50+ minute video) than a racing seat (15+ minutes)???
They're both about the same when it comes to ease-of-use, build quality and cost...so why two drastically different length videos?