He is from Corsica, italy. Today we call badass like him, Mafioso. Its interesting to see how deep this bandit blood come from,in surterh Italy. Corsica is not that far from Sicily, same mountain send Sheppard lifestyle.
Does that mean we should start burying people in snow mountains so that our future overlords will have a preserved specimen if our technology fails to continue through the millenniums? -A Random Thought
No, there was blood of two people on it. Shot the same day? Probably not, he had to retreive the arrow first, it does not penetrate a body and comes out the other side undamaged returning like a boomerang. Killed? Could be because he did get his arrow back ... twice. Pretty good with a bow then.
he said why, it's because he was a carb eater. when he contrasted it with hunter gatherers who ate meat. but then like an idiot he added meat to the opposite side, thinking meat causes atherosclerosis. and you can hear his brain has a breakdown as he says it, like a car crash. heart disease didn't exist, and still doesn't for meat eaters. by meat eaters I mean people who eat less than 10% of their diet as carbs
@@phearz0r Heart disease and cancer *DID* exist, but it was much more rare because people died from injuries and other diseases first. An ancient person was quite old if they reached the age of 40. Heart disease and cancer are usually seen in people over 60, though it is seen in people who are younger, it is really quite rare. Also, heart disease is caused by fat in the diet, not carbs. It is also seen in smokers, so there are non-diet environmental factors to these diseases.
yep all good fiction has facts in it or who cares , just a movie on how hard it was to live back then ,his body was wrecked with arthritis i.e manual labor ,diet ?The end of the movie Ötzi gets in a battle with a clan from the valley over stealing his live stock ?
Justin Zoll It's possible that his attackers fled due to fear or grievous injuries; he did manage to singlehandedly fight off and wound several people, so it wouldn't surprise me to learn that the attackers decided to flee instead of risk the death of multiple members of their tribe over one person.
plus he was above the cold alps where perhaps a blizzard couldve been happening and they didnt want to stay long and thought that they could just leave his dead body up the frozen alps where he could freeze his ass to only be found again to today's age
Ah yes, I hadn't considered that. He must have been a rather disliked individual for them to have chased him through a blizzard and up a mountain in order to kill him!
I was reading comments and noticed something. +Andem says there is evidence they tried to remove the arrow post mortem. IF this is true, they were obviously right by the body. Perhaps it was secured to him in some complicated knot or there was some other impediment to easy retrieval, but it would seem that if they were right by him, it would have been quick to grab it as they were leaving. It also just occurred to me that one of the biggest reasons to attempt to retrieve their arrowhead would be the likelihood of its being recognized by other persons. Even if it had no identifying markings, most craftsmen will say they can recognize the work of certain individuals. One can infer a bomb's maker by looking at the bomb. One can determine the authenticity of a painting by looking at minute differences in brush strokes, etc.
+Saint Boudreau who was brutally murdered but had none of his supplies (which would have been valuable back then) stolen? I just get the feeling he was a criminal and maybe a bum whole too
+Saint Boudreau who was brutally murdered but had none of his supplies (which would have been valuable back then) stolen? I just get the feeling he was a criminal and maybe a bum whole too
He also taught us that five thousand years ago, Europeans had more Neanderthal in them than modern humans. Otzi had 5.5%, more than any present day human measured.
joeschultz2 modern humans on average lol. Even I (a mixed black and white guy) have 2%. Depending on the world you can still have people up to 4%+ especially eastern europe and northern europe where they havent mixed. Americans will be far far less on average because theyve mixed around alot.
that is normal since Neanderthal´s were chased and did mix also with modern humans (Homo-Sapiens), actually they fleed little by little to the western side of Europe(Spain and Portugal) where the land ends and the sea begins, were they finally disapeared as a specie, even if they letted us some of their genes. The two speacies cohabitated.
Otzi belonged to haplogroups G2a-L91 and K1f, both really rare subclades today, found mostly on isolated islands (Corsica, Sicily,Sardinia) and the Middle East. This combination indicates that Otzi's ancestors settled in Europe from Western Asia during the Neolithic.
+MrBrunoTheBest , you are just ridiculous as Chinese chronics never mentions Pers or Indians in the area , but just Turks and Mongols .ÖTZİ is totaly Turkic name :)(as historians gave him a Turkish name he must be most close to Turkic DNA !) , tattoo is a common thing , found on Altai mummies ! , Turks were living as different tribes (tree or four kinds of human )on Altai mountain and this mountain was look like a helmet so Chinese started to call this mix nation , who they were believing that they were the children of female wolf Ashina , Turk , as Turk mean Helmet in Chinese , this is what written in Chinese chronics !
IMO sounds like he committed a crime (3 diff ppls blood between his jacket & arrowhead) & escaped into the mountains. He was then tracked by a village posse they ambushed him when he stopped to eat.
i agree, that it's kind of likely, that his murderers wanted him dead (maybe revenge?), not rob him, because he still got his stuff (esp. the axe) on him.
holiday07 Well he died at age 45, 5300 years ago. Not bad for a time without governments and police keeping people in check. If people where so barbaric back then, you'd think people wouldn't make it past 20.
***** "thats especially good for someone who was murdered" At age 45. Which is exactly my point.You'd think he would of been murdered much sooner in a lawless land yeah?
We talk about him being such an "early human" but he died 5,300 years ago.....which was AFTER the invention of writing and the advent of recorded history.
It is quite early and the cultures that wrote did not live nearby now did they? (nonetheless, there seem to be some rudimentary inscriptions, but no languauge that can be discerned as far as I know).
What I want to know is this: If he did die a violent death at the hands of another person, why did they not bother to loot him.....his copper axe would have been ridiculously valuable.
Saint Boudreau The problem with this is that it requires SO many assumptions. Okay, maybe fall related head trauma wouldn't be readily obvious and there wouldn't be any other damage to any part of his body that indicates falling......then, the people who killed him would have to have absolutely no way down to his body....I certainly would have made a huge effort to get down there if I killed him and I feel like if he fell off of a fuck off ledge at like 300 feet, it would be obvious in his body damage. And then the biggest thing is he would have had to have been like......within 10 feet of this ledge when he was shot because a severed subclavian artery = near instant death. This blood vessel causes a faster bleed out than a fully cut throat and is second only to being stabbed in the right ventricle of the heart. Having the arrow lodged in may have bought him some time but not much. I mean, all of this could easily have been the case or it may have been a pretty populous raid where people needed to flee but in any case, its torturous not knowing.
A wealthy, respected, well tended Human with advanced Lyme disease ? He was probably a leader who got sick and was going to be mercy killed. It would explain his copper ax, a status symbol, why no one looted his corpse, and the excessive medical attention and food he was receiving.
LGBTQ for Hillary I like the irony in that theory. By trying to erase him they made him the most famous human from that time period. I'm picturing a scene from The Wire but instead of a pimped out gun Ötzi has a copper axe.
The reason Otiz was in the alps (probably) was because it as a burial. The pollen found in his stomach was from a plant that only bloomed in spring. Otzi was put in the alps much later. That's probably why he was so well persevered. We have evidence from later cultures that store/freeze dead bodies until the burial can happen. That's what probably what happened with him. We know from his skin that he was preserved was through a flux of warm and cold weather. You don't get that in the alps. Because of how old he was, he was probably a person of power in his community. (45 was a really long life span for that time period.) This is confirmed by the fact he has a copper axe. So yeah burial. It would explain the weird placement of artifacts and the arrows he had with in. Most of the arrows were unfinished. And why he had his copper axe.
Years ago I was picking up a load of Alloy truck wheels at an Italian city , Bolzano, they told me the load wouldn't be ready until next day. I went for a walk and saw a queue outside the museum. I joined the queue, it took quite some time, but...............I saw Otzi, frozen in his special chamber. I'll remember that for as long as I live.
I think Ötzie was murdered by someone because they wanted to steal his position. His copper axe obviously meant he was important, so maybe someone killed him to steal his position secretly. Why else had the killer pulled the arrow shaft out of Ötzie? So no one would know he was murdered. And why was the axe left behind? So no one would be suspicious of the murderer for having Ötzie's axe. But this is only what I think :) It may not be true.
Is it possible that Ötzi could have been shot by his attackers BEFORE he went up the mountain? (Like while he was shooting the two guys with one arrow.) And then in the mountain took the medicine and broke off the arrow shaft that they found with him. Then somehow stumbled and hit his head and died.
Probably stumbled and died after the loss of blood from that severed artery...from the ambush which damaged the body...all this is an "educated guess" as to cause...as none of us was there...body preserved via burial in centuries of snow and ice...
I have a question. If frozen masses can preserve such human remains so well... where are all the human remains going a lot further back than this guy? Why don't we have 10,000 yr old Ice men and 20,000, 50K etc??
*****"relatively few places" Yeah but relatively. There's still 1000's of square miles for this to happen and apprently a very healthy and adventurous human population supposedly migrating all around the world.
+shamanahaboolist Ice isn't THAT reliable. It melts, and it can shatter. The same thing could be said for finding a preserved wholly mammoth. Why don't we have loads of them? Because it's a luck thing. Just as fossilization is also largely based on chance, but it's still more reliable and common than finding shit in ice.
Master Chaos It doesn't change my point. We have Mammoths going far back further than 10,000 years. The ice packs in Siberia / Russian arctic circle yielded 40K+ specimens. But we have 0 humans from that time scale preserved like that. Don't you think that's a bit strange...?
He was also carrying two types of medicinal mushrooms for treating his lime infection, shoes, a belt for carrying his arrows, a bag with a kit to make fire.. and some other things I don't remember rk
They didn't have fancy knives in the stone age? Obviously you have never tried flint napping. Stone knives are gorgeous, painstakingly difficult to make, and amazingly effective.
idunusegoogleplus At all points in our history, mankind has been equally smart, industrious, inventive, and appreciative of fine things. Stone tools can be eye-popping gorgeous works of art and metal ones can look quite shit. All that can be said of metal tools is that they require advanced technology and more knowledge to create.....they aren't more elaborate or even necessarily better depending on the metal or item. If making stone tools wasn't every bit as difficult as metal working, then stone tools like knives, arrowheads, ect would have stayed in production long after the discovery of metals as a cheaper alternative.
Trace I'm learning more about humans from you in one week than I learned in 4 months of anthropology class from my teacher,. Really great and interesting stuff
Curious that his attackers did not take his belongings after they killed him, especially the copper axe. Maybe there was some taboo or superstition about stealing from the dead?
Paul Howitt it's possible his body slid or fell out of reach where it was just to risky to attempt to loot, it's also possible he had even more valuable things on him that they looted
Yeah, that bothered me too...wondering about circumstances...its mostly conjecture anyway...educated guesses from what evidence could be determined and knowledge of the general times...
I have this strange feeling that Otzi probably killed the people close to them with that axe and bow way before this whole altercation, I mean you wouldn't wana pick up a gun that killed one of ur family members would you?
I've seen the hypothesis that he was a powerful/wealthy man given his relatively long lifespan. Maybe his killers were, too and didn't really need an axe? + maybe some sort of taboo, yeah.
So excited I found this channel! Thank you! According to genetic testing Otzi is one of my ancestors as are some Neanderthals. I’m so proud to be related to this brave man.
What if Ötzi was being chased for committing an awful deed within his tribe? Maybe he wasn't the "cool guy", or hero he's being made out to be. If several people were hunting him down, maybe he was on the run from "the law". Or maybe he was wrongly accused, and framed for something he didn't do! Regardless, he's become an amazingly interesting specimen, but I'm not on board to praise him, or put forth any benevolent morals on the guy, merely because he died in a fight and was preserved for 5,300 years. Nor do I think he's cool for having to fight for his survival. Maybe TestTube plus should examine why American culture praises violence. Evenmore, possibly study why the compound word badass is so popular and means a positive thing; as if its something to strive for. I've wondered that after I had used it in conversation, and a friend had simply asked why I thought being a "badass" was such a good thing. I realized that it only perpetuates the notion that being gritty, tough, , and somewhat aggressive, yet holding some judeo-christian moral code is cool. I've held back ever since. Then, maybe go on to do an episode analysing why our culture is so lax on violence in cinema, but shuns sex and the nude human body - yet sexual allusions plague advertising. Either way, thanks Ötzi for initiating this comment!
Treo Pictures I had the same thoughts. He could have been the local maurader and the village was trying to oust him. We Americans do so love our violence. As does much of the so called civilized world. But Ötzi gives substantial insight into human life and the more we can study his remains the more we learn about ourselves. Also, it's not just judeo-christian moral code that holds violence in esteem, most organized religions do. It's a quandary why we atheist are vilified because the majority of us are pacifists.
It is quite common to reuse arrows considering what it took to make them, it was a lot easier to retrieve one than to make another, which means the blood could have come from an issue prior to the one you state. The arrow head in his back, apparently had been there awhile, again, he might have been shot previously, and as most men do, toughed it out. Early men and women were not in the habit of changing clothes very often and would add new rather than change. So, the additional blood could have come from a previous fight or he just switched jackets.
Otzi probably knew his murderer very well. In all probability they were of the same village. Infact the killer turned otzi's corpse face down to recover his arrow (the position of the arm across the chest is very typical of this manuver. He had been turned face down after the death), but didn't take otzi's arrows, the bow, and the very valuable copper axe (isotopes' analysis revealed that the copper came form an ore in south Tuscany, 400 km away, it was not a common item). Cause both the arrow on the dead body, or the possession of Otzi's items would have been incriminating.
Human science has learned so much about this man, his culture, and his basic humanness from examining his body. Enough to respect him and his people highly. It is a pity we will not have the same breadth of opportunity with Kennewick Man!
That's just the name of the place they found him, we don't know his real name. To find his real name, we must, probably, go to the Druze mountain of Syria, Lebanon, Corsica in Italy to find a similar type
Burak Baggins Not sure about that What if the last time was the morning he died and that is why they killed him What I mean is there are endless storys that can hapen
+Burak Baggins yes, but what difference does it makes when all this happened 5k years ago that they found any trace of blood and where able to verify that it's from 2 different persons is so bloody amazing (pun intended) , there is no way to tell time frame between though....
I was always under the impression that Otzi's bow was unfinished, as in it wasn't done being made, properly tillered and so on. Maybe Wikipedia meant that it wasn't "finished" in the sense that it wasn't finished with a oil, like they do to better preserve the properties of the wood.
Has anyone copied Ötzi's and had them tattooed onto their own body? Do we even have a visual representation of what his tattoos looked like? Interesting, all around! Thanks for sharing this - I imagine there's a lot more to learn, as our knowledge grows!
Really? 3300 BCE- Not Very ancient for Humans, I Mean in Mesopotamia they were already building kingdoms and city-states I mean it is ancient for written history , this was the beginning of written records, but ancient in humanit , no, this is Copper Age, i mean thats like saying WWI is ancient history, there is much more ancient So Ötzi is not ancient
God, I love you Trace!! You've gotta be one of the most knowledgeable men ever right now....thank you so so much for including us on your quest for worldly knowledges & wisdoms!! The art of learning, experience & the mastery of the fine, liberal & classical arts are commendable things to bring to the world, and I appreciate what you do!! It can't be easy to do what you do in the cynical world we live in & I hope you know how much this means!! Thank you for spreading what you learn! Sci, Soc &ALL
Simmekakibackup2 Koujo The Proto-Indo-Europeans lived in the late Neolithic to the Early Bronze Age (or Early Copper Age). I hypothesize the PIE peoples lived as early as 5500 BCE and started to spread the Indo-European languages and culture around in 3000-2500 BCE. There are many estimates as to when they lived, but this is my theory.
I'm a Biological Anthropology major and nothing gets me more pumped than Otzi. Except maybe The Catacombs of Palermo or The "Lady of Di" mummy. Mummies in general are just so fucking cool.
I've just found this channel and subscribed, so interesting! I watch D News occasionally, but the host sounds so much better unscripted, so I'll be watching this much more often.
He was likely found in Ice or Snow and he was probably buried of cover with Ice or Snow, both have properties that can slow down or kill the bacteria that eats the body.
Kyle HAYWOOD Right, I didn't realize he was embedded in ice even if he he's called the ice-man.. because he was found by hikers. Ice is more permanent than snow so he was iced for 5000 years and surfaced by luck.
Kicker_inc It needs to be high up or animals would see and destroy it. Snow have to come fast to cover it up. I never heard where he was found, if it was normally out in the open? If he was in a dispute as suggested he would seek a place where no-one goes.
You have super cool videos and ive watched them all, bud can you maybe put pictures in youre explains, that would make the image from the axplenation some more easy.
Thanks for the concise and informational commentary. Thanks too for omitting music which detracts from the narrative. More should take a lesson from your format.
The other thing they don't know, is why the others were after him. You may think he's so _"frikkin cool",_ but have you given that any thought? Isn't it just as possible he himself was a cold-blooded killer who had been murdering others and they were just defending their families, as much as he may have been ambushed by them in cold blood?
Imagine going back in time to meet him? We couldn't warn him that he was going to be attacked at that location, and we might have trouble communicating with him, but still, it would be cool to meet him.
This is literally a video of a guy just reading about this ancient Iceman from his laptop. Couldn't even make a video pretending like you knew this information from research. No citing of sources, no helpful infographics, or pictures. Where did you get your information so I can actually learn about this ancient human from a source that can actually tell me something of value? Who approved of this video, and why do people like this? And, before I get the "If you don't like it, don't watch it" comments I'm saying this channel is just throwing out crap content for you people when they could be actually trying and making this informative piece a much better use of everyone's time. But they know they can just throw out anything for you zombies and you'll watch it.
Otzi presents several problems for those who take the scriptures literally. According to the scriptures, it had not rained before the flood. If that were true, then there would not have been any snow or ice on the mountains. Since Otzi is 5300 years old, he was around before the flood. Before the flood there was only supposed to be something like the dew that watered the face of the Earth. It would be very difficult to amass enough dew to get the ice required to cover and completely freeze a body almost instantly. That is just the first part of the problem. Since Otzi apparently went through the flood, he would have thawed out and rotted before freezing again. Apparently that did not happen since he is almost totally intact. Perhaps Noah's flood did not reach to the Austrian alps, or Otzi has been mistakenly aged.
Now, many thousands of years ago When Otzi was about twenty three He was married to a widow Who was probably as pretty as could be This widow had a grown-up daughter who Had hair of red Otzi the iceman’s father fell in love with her And soon the two were wed This made Otzis dad his son-in-law And changed his ice age life For His daughter was his mother 'Cause she was Otzis father's wife To complicate the matter Even though it brought him joy Otzi soon became the father Of a bouncing baby Stone Age boy His little baby then became A brother-in-law to his dad And so became his uncle Though it made him very sad For if he was his uncle That also made him the brother Of the widow's grown-up daughter Who, of course, was his step-mother Otzis father's wife then had a son That kept them on the run And he became Otzis grandchild For he was Otzis daughter's son Otzis wife was then his mother's mother And it made him blue Because, although she was his wife She was his grandmother too Now, if Otzis wife was his grandmother Then, He was her grandchild And every time He thought of it It nearly drove him wild For now He had become The strangest prehistoric case you ever saw As husband of his grandmother He was his own grandpa It sounds funny I know But genetic tests show it was so Otzi was his own grandpa
Attacked during a blizzard! That's why his killers didn't take his prized personal effects. He managed to escape -tracks covered by falling snow, but then died and was buried/preserved with all his possessions in snow.
I'm really curious: Do the people in the videos edit the videos, or are there dedicated editors. Second, is this your full time job? Don't blame me for asking, blame my curiosity. :)
cold wind swept around the mountains, otzi and his hunting party, consisting of 4 members plus otzi, had lost their way in a snow storm and couldn't find their way back to their tribe and having burned through their food rations and it being too cold to hunt, they were surly dead, but otzi still had some food left as he had been given some spare rations by his father who had told him before he left "bring back food and that he would not be there when he returned." he was weak and a burden on the village so he would be executed his meat used for bait and bones for tools to carry on serving the living past death. he was pulled out of his reflection by a sudden dizziness, he stumbled slightly, he had been feeling sick for the last few suns he took some hop hornbeam out of his pack and ate it to try and reduce his illness "oi" one of his party members shouted "otzi has food.""Give us the food otzi" another said drawing his club."it's just hop hornbeam." Otzi replied tightening the grip on his bow"No I can smell the meat in your bag" otzi knew thay would try to kill him for the meat so he had no choice he drew his bow and shot the man in front of him point blank in the throat, the man to his left lunged at otzi attempting to gut him with his Flint knife but otzi was faster, managing to grab the blade of the knife and stop it, he then hit the man with his bow knocking him back before ducking a club swing of the third man he ran towards the body of the first man and wrenching his arrow out of the mans throat nocking it and firing at the man with the club, cutting a deep gouge in his his shoulder and continuing on behind him. he then ran towards the mountain but was stopped by the forth man in his party who tried to slash otzi with his knife but otzi stopped him, managed to disarm him and slit his neck spilling blood on his coat, the mans limp body then fell to the ground, otzi stepped over him and continued towards and up the mountain, picking up his arrow on the way there, he then took shelter in a cave, he had escaped he lit a fire had a rest then ate the last of his rations, staring into the fire thinking of his tribe, his father, and the ones who had betrayed him, as he dosed off in front of the fire he felt a sharp pain spike through his back he wailed in pain and turned around only to see a club smash into his face, then darkness.
Turns out he killed a chicken in skyrim and had to flee to the alps
So they were aiming at the knee!
Robbie Gillibrand if they were aiming at the knee they must have been trained at the ancient stormtrooper Academy
He probably was an average on the badass-meter at his time.
Simme Rocky Well he has the blood of 4 people on him. He could very well be a mass murder.
He is from Corsica, italy. Today we call badass like him, Mafioso.
Its interesting to see how deep this bandit blood come from,in surterh Italy. Corsica is not that far from Sicily, same mountain send Sheppard lifestyle.
Alberto Humova What is surterh? BTW, you comments are bigoted.
+Zhanchi LOL I never thought of it that way!
WTF? They found him on the Alps, at the border with Austria, quite far from the south, and you are mistaking Sicily with Sardinia.
Does that mean we should start burying people in snow mountains so that our future overlords will have a preserved specimen if our technology fails to continue through the millenniums?
-A Random Thought
Saad Sircar Yes
There already is dead buried hikers in the Himalayas
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so your saying the ötzi iceman killed two people with one arrow and then died dabbing wow he was really cool
snow pug so cool that he was perfectly preserved over 5,000 years
So cool the place is colder than ever.
No, there was blood of two people on it.
Shot the same day? Probably not, he had to retreive the arrow first, it does not penetrate a body and comes out the other side undamaged returning like a boomerang.
Killed? Could be because he did get his arrow back ... twice. Pretty good with a bow then.
@@tomvanaarle2622 You sure are fun at parties.
thats not how u dab
The reason few people died of heart disease and cancer in the past is because they died from other things first.
your ass.
Nietzschean Hulk is mine
probably not why
he said why, it's because he was a carb eater. when he contrasted it with hunter gatherers who ate meat. but then like an idiot he added meat to the opposite side, thinking meat causes atherosclerosis. and you can hear his brain has a breakdown as he says it, like a car crash.
heart disease didn't exist, and still doesn't for meat eaters. by meat eaters I mean people who eat less than 10% of their diet as carbs
@@phearz0r Heart disease and cancer *DID* exist, but it was much more rare because people died from injuries and other diseases first.
An ancient person was quite old if they reached the age of 40.
Heart disease and cancer are usually seen in people over 60, though it is seen in people who are younger, it is really quite rare.
Also, heart disease is caused by fat in the diet, not carbs. It is also seen in smokers, so there are non-diet environmental factors to these diseases.
wow ottzi was a badass. Probably why he was still alive at 40 something.
Amen.
I would love to see a movie about his life. Be interesting
Ja, but not a Hollywood movie; they just ruin everything. Maybe a Mel Gibson film, yes
Der Mann aus dem Eis - Trailer German (2017)
I LOLed!
yep all good fiction has facts in it or who cares , just a movie on how hard it was to live back then ,his body was wrecked with arthritis i.e manual labor ,diet ?The end of the movie Ötzi gets in a battle with a clan from the valley over stealing his live stock ?
I wonder why those who killed him wouldn't take his valuable copper axe
Justin Zoll It's possible that his attackers fled due to fear or grievous injuries; he did manage to singlehandedly fight off and wound several people, so it wouldn't surprise me to learn that the attackers decided to flee instead of risk the death of multiple members of their tribe over one person.
good point
plus he was above the cold alps where perhaps a blizzard couldve been happening and they didnt want to stay long and thought that they could just leave his dead body up the frozen alps where he could freeze his ass to only be found again to today's age
Ah yes, I hadn't considered that. He must have been a rather disliked individual for them to have chased him through a blizzard and up a mountain in order to kill him!
I was reading comments and noticed something. +Andem says there is evidence they tried to remove the arrow post mortem. IF this is true, they were obviously right by the body. Perhaps it was secured to him in some complicated knot or there was some other impediment to easy retrieval, but it would seem that if they were right by him, it would have been quick to grab it as they were leaving. It also just occurred to me that one of the biggest reasons to attempt to retrieve their arrowhead would be the likelihood of its being recognized by other persons. Even if it had no identifying markings, most craftsmen will say they can recognize the work of certain individuals. One can infer a bomb's maker by looking at the bomb. One can determine the authenticity of a painting by looking at minute differences in brush strokes, etc.
I just get the feeling that otzi was some sort of criminal
+ClandestineOstrich may have been a wonderful kind person
+Saint Boudreau who was brutally murdered but had none of his supplies (which would have been valuable back then) stolen? I just get the feeling he was a criminal and maybe a bum whole too
+Saint Boudreau who was brutally murdered but had none of his supplies (which would have been valuable back then) stolen? I just get the feeling he was a criminal and maybe a bum whole too
Yeah same
Killed a chicken they say.
He also taught us that five thousand years ago, Europeans had more Neanderthal in them than modern humans. Otzi had 5.5%, more than any present day human measured.
More than any present human measured.
Zalman he means that they had 5.5% more. That would be about 10%. Im pretty sure the average now is 4-5%.
joeschultz2 I know I have close to ~ 2% Neanderthal. at 1.8% from 32andme. I don't believe any modern human has above 3%
joeschultz2 modern humans on average lol. Even I (a mixed black and white guy) have 2%. Depending on the world you can still have people up to 4%+ especially eastern europe and northern europe where they havent mixed. Americans will be far far less on average because theyve mixed around alot.
that is normal since Neanderthal´s were chased and did mix also with modern humans (Homo-Sapiens), actually they fleed little by little to the western side of Europe(Spain and Portugal) where the land ends and the sea begins, were they finally disapeared as a specie, even if they letted us some of their genes. The two speacies cohabitated.
Otzi belonged to haplogroups G2a-L91 and K1f, both really rare subclades today, found mostly on isolated islands (Corsica, Sicily,Sardinia) and the Middle East. This combination indicates that Otzi's ancestors settled in Europe from Western Asia during the Neolithic.
MrBrunoTheBest that was interesting extra's on what sort of people he belonged to thanks.
MrBrunoTheBest *some of his ancestors originated from western asia
MrBrunoTheBest my MT is a K1a4.. can I say I'm related to him more than others talking about only mt haplogroups?
+MrBrunoTheBest , you are just ridiculous as Chinese chronics never mentions Pers or Indians in the area , but just Turks and Mongols .ÖTZİ is totaly Turkic name :)(as historians gave him a Turkish name he must be most close to Turkic DNA !) , tattoo is a common thing , found on Altai mummies ! , Turks were living as different tribes (tree or four kinds of human )on Altai mountain and this mountain was look like a helmet so Chinese started to call this mix nation , who they were believing that they were the children of female wolf Ashina , Turk , as Turk mean Helmet in Chinese , this is what written in Chinese chronics !
nergiz gündüz his genetics was not asian, otherwise I'd be asiatic but I am not.
my dude died dabbing
hardest laugh so far this month from me thanks haha.
Daniel Hernandez it was the ancient dab
Daniel Hernandez he dabbed on the haters and the haters dabbed back.
Our teacher said “he died while dabbing”
he was the ancestor of mesut Ozil
*Ötzi
Mr. Badass, this man has no living descendants, only distant cousins on the islands of Satdinia and Corsica.
ClandestineOstrich, This man has no living descendants only distant cousins on the islands of Corsica and Sardinia.
DIEversity403
He is palying for the German national team but not german explain please 🤔
dieversity is a racist thats all. Özil was born in germany, his parents are from turkey tho.
IMO sounds like he committed a crime (3 diff ppls blood between his jacket & arrowhead) & escaped into the mountains. He was then tracked by a village posse they ambushed him when he stopped to eat.
i agree, that it's kind of likely, that his murderers wanted him dead (maybe revenge?), not rob him, because he still got his stuff (esp. the axe) on him.
He created the dab.
I found it interesting that Otzi only has 19 living relatives today, and that his mitochondrial lineage (an extinct subclade of K1) has died out.
damn back then you HAD to watch your back at all times i imagine the stress those people went through
it hasn't changed much, we just have civil societies now. most parts of the world , and in nature, it's still survival of the fittest
Nice video, good job Trace.
The dude died a violent death. Humans didn't really changed much in the last 53,000 years.
holiday07 yeah it was 5300 years ago, 53,000 years ago we didn't have agriculture or copper tools
holiday07 Well he died at age 45, 5300 years ago. Not bad for a time without governments and police keeping people in check. If people where so barbaric back then, you'd think people wouldn't make it past 20.
edstar83 thats especially good for someone who was murdered
***** "thats especially good for someone who was murdered"
At age 45. Which is exactly my point.You'd think he would of been murdered much sooner in a lawless land yeah?
No. We have changed a lot.
So interesting! Thanks a lot Trace!
We talk about him being such an "early human" but he died 5,300 years ago.....which was AFTER the invention of writing and the advent of recorded history.
Yeah but no mummy has been preserved so well for such long time.
It was marely an accident, he fell in the ice and froze completely for so long.
Preston Nichols No he said 5,300.
It is quite early and the cultures that wrote did not live nearby now did they? (nonetheless, there seem to be some rudimentary inscriptions, but no languauge that can be discerned as far as I know).
Am I the only one that thinks his story would make a really good movie?
Well, no...
I think that
it would make a good movie yes but all is adventure would have to be invented...till almost the end. But it would be a very nice prehistoric movie!
It could be cool.
I think there is a german -italian movie about him?
What I want to know is this: If he did die a violent death at the hands of another person, why did they not bother to loot him.....his copper axe would have been ridiculously valuable.
+Mr. Pommel he may have killed the others and fell head his head and died . as I thought the same as you.
Saint Boudreau The problem with this is that it requires SO many assumptions. Okay, maybe fall related head trauma wouldn't be readily obvious and there wouldn't be any other damage to any part of his body that indicates falling......then, the people who killed him would have to have absolutely no way down to his body....I certainly would have made a huge effort to get down there if I killed him and I feel like if he fell off of a fuck off ledge at like 300 feet, it would be obvious in his body damage. And then the biggest thing is he would have had to have been like......within 10 feet of this ledge when he was shot because a severed subclavian artery = near instant death. This blood vessel causes a faster bleed out than a fully cut throat and is second only to being stabbed in the right ventricle of the heart. Having the arrow lodged in may have bought him some time but not much. I mean, all of this could easily have been the case or it may have been a pretty populous raid where people needed to flee but in any case, its torturous not knowing.
True...wondering that too...or was it a ritual burial?
A wealthy, respected, well tended Human with advanced Lyme disease ? He was probably a leader who got sick and was going to be mercy killed. It would explain his copper ax, a status symbol, why no one looted his corpse, and the excessive medical attention and food he was receiving.
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My teacher told me otzi was a blood and the goons who attacked him were crips. Otzi was in the wrong territory and therefore had to get attacked.
Modern questions require modern answers. 🤔
Very interesting! But how do they know the blood on the arrow head wasn't from the day or the week before.
He would have cleaned it (?)
I bet it has to do with how dry or fresh the blood on the arrow was, but that's just my guess.
+LGBTQ for Hillary True, but if his body was preserved so well, so should the arrows blood. Scientists always have a way to figure things out.
+LGBTQ for Hillary Coagulation is your answer. They could figure out how fresh the blood was. Before hitting the second guy.
Why were the attackers attacking him? If they were robbers they would have stolen his copper axe, which I hear was a status symbol in his culture.
***** Could be. Still an impressive display of archery either way.
LGBTQ for Hillary I like the irony in that theory. By trying to erase him they made him the most famous human from that time period. I'm picturing a scene from The Wire but instead of a pimped out gun Ötzi has a copper axe.
The reason Otiz was in the alps (probably) was because it as a burial. The pollen found in his stomach was from a plant that only bloomed in spring. Otzi was put in the alps much later. That's probably why he was so well persevered. We have evidence from later cultures that store/freeze dead bodies until the burial can happen. That's what probably what happened with him. We know from his skin that he was preserved was through a flux of warm and cold weather. You don't get that in the alps. Because of how old he was, he was probably a person of power in his community. (45 was a really long life span for that time period.) This is confirmed by the fact he has a copper axe. So yeah burial. It would explain the weird placement of artifacts and the arrows he had with in. Most of the arrows were unfinished. And why he had his copper axe.
it was probably an assassination
Maybe, but he wasn't assassinated in the alps where they found him though.
Elle theNinja wouldn't explain the bloodied arrows
You are off by a mile. Otzi had bloodied arrows that were not his as well as blood that wasn't his in his other instruments.
if so why is fresh wounds?
watched this in class today
i wonder if we will go back to this video and look in the comments 😂😂
I did too😂
Years ago I was picking up a load of Alloy truck wheels at an Italian city , Bolzano, they told me the load wouldn't be ready until next day. I went for a walk and saw a queue outside the museum. I joined the queue, it took quite some time, but...............I saw Otzi, frozen in his special chamber.
I'll remember that for as long as I live.
i bet he beat off all the attackers...then get up and tripped and hit his head agains the rock and he died
I think Ötzie was murdered by someone because they wanted to steal his position. His copper axe obviously meant he was important, so maybe someone killed him to steal his position secretly. Why else had the killer pulled the arrow shaft out of Ötzie? So no one would know he was murdered. And why was the axe left behind? So no one would be suspicious of the murderer for having Ötzie's axe.
But this is only what I think :) It may not be true.
Is it possible that Ötzi could have been shot by his attackers BEFORE he went up the mountain? (Like while he was shooting the two guys with one arrow.) And then in the mountain took the medicine and broke off the arrow shaft that they found with him. Then somehow stumbled and hit his head and died.
Probably stumbled and died after the loss of blood from that severed artery...from the ambush which damaged the body...all this is an "educated guess" as to cause...as none of us was there...body preserved via burial in centuries of snow and ice...
Please make this show a podcast on iTunes, SoundCloud or somewhere so I can listen it on my daily commute. PLEASE!
I have a question.
If frozen masses can preserve such human remains so well... where are all the human remains going a lot further back than this guy? Why don't we have 10,000 yr old Ice men and 20,000, 50K etc??
*****"relatively few places"
Yeah but relatively. There's still 1000's of square miles for this to happen and apprently a very healthy and adventurous human population supposedly migrating all around the world.
+shamanahaboolist
Ice isn't THAT reliable. It melts, and it can shatter. The same thing could be said for finding a preserved wholly mammoth. Why don't we have loads of them? Because it's a luck thing. Just as fossilization is also largely based on chance, but it's still more reliable and common than finding shit in ice.
Master Chaos
We have Antarctic ice cores going back 200,000 years.
Plus I'm not asking why we don't have loads. I'm asking why we don't have *any*.
*****
That's ice in very specific conditions. We don't have very many because not much of the ice from the ice age is still around.
Master Chaos
It doesn't change my point. We have Mammoths going far back further than 10,000 years. The ice packs in Siberia / Russian arctic circle yielded 40K+ specimens.
But we have 0 humans from that time scale preserved like that. Don't you think that's a bit strange...?
Ive had a lifelong interest in Utzi(how they also spelled it) and always get excited when I hear new news about him.
Ötzi is Chuck Norris meditating, he`s not dead
BersekerSpirit oh man one of the funniest comments ever bro lmfao😂😂😂😂😂
SwAggY P americans. Pft.
This here
He was also carrying two types of medicinal mushrooms for treating his lime infection, shoes, a belt for carrying his arrows, a bag with a kit to make fire.. and some other things I don't remember rk
They didn't have fancy knives in the stone age? Obviously you have never tried flint napping. Stone knives are gorgeous, painstakingly difficult to make, and amazingly effective.
still not as fancy as actual knives that required smithing with extreme heat
idunusegoogleplus At all points in our history, mankind has been equally smart, industrious, inventive, and appreciative of fine things. Stone tools can be eye-popping gorgeous works of art and metal ones can look quite shit. All that can be said of metal tools is that they require advanced technology and more knowledge to create.....they aren't more elaborate or even necessarily better depending on the metal or item. If making stone tools wasn't every bit as difficult as metal working, then stone tools like knives, arrowheads, ect would have stayed in production long after the discovery of metals as a cheaper alternative.
+Woss Hurnbee k
Trace I'm learning more about humans from you in one week than I learned in 4 months of anthropology class from my teacher,. Really great and interesting stuff
Curious that his attackers did not take his belongings after they killed him, especially the copper axe. Maybe there was some taboo or superstition about stealing from the dead?
Paul Howitt it's possible his body slid or fell out of reach where it was just to risky to attempt to loot, it's also possible he had even more valuable things on him that they looted
Yeah, that bothered me too...wondering about circumstances...its mostly conjecture anyway...educated guesses from what evidence could be determined and knowledge of the general times...
I have this strange feeling that Otzi probably killed the people close to them with that axe and bow way before this whole altercation, I mean you wouldn't wana pick up a gun that killed one of ur family members would you?
Thats one of the most curious things. Was him a criminal or defender from robbers why did they let such valious things he had?
I've seen the hypothesis that he was a powerful/wealthy man given his relatively long lifespan. Maybe his killers were, too and didn't really need an axe? + maybe some sort of taboo, yeah.
So excited I found this channel! Thank you! According to genetic testing Otzi is one of my ancestors as are some Neanderthals. I’m so proud to be related to this brave man.
What if Ötzi was being chased for committing an awful deed within his tribe? Maybe he wasn't the "cool guy", or hero he's being made out to be. If several people were hunting him down, maybe he was on the run from "the law". Or maybe he was wrongly accused, and framed for something he didn't do! Regardless, he's become an amazingly interesting specimen, but I'm not on board to praise him, or put forth any benevolent morals on the guy, merely because he died in a fight and was preserved for 5,300 years. Nor do I think he's cool for having to fight for his survival. Maybe TestTube plus should examine why American culture praises violence. Evenmore, possibly study why the compound word badass is so popular and means a positive thing; as if its something to strive for. I've wondered that after I had used it in conversation, and a friend had simply asked why I thought being a "badass" was such a good thing. I realized that it only perpetuates the notion that being gritty, tough, , and somewhat aggressive, yet holding some judeo-christian moral code is cool. I've held back ever since. Then, maybe go on to do an episode analysing why our culture is so lax on violence in cinema, but shuns sex and the nude human body - yet sexual allusions plague advertising. Either way, thanks Ötzi for initiating this comment!
Treo Pictures nah, he was killed by super-intelligent gorillas
Treo Pictures I had the same thoughts. He could have been the local maurader and the village was trying to oust him. We Americans do so love our violence. As does much of the so called civilized world. But Ötzi gives substantial insight into human life and the more we can study his remains the more we learn about ourselves. Also, it's not just judeo-christian moral code that holds violence in esteem, most organized religions do. It's a quandary why we atheist are vilified because the majority of us are pacifists.
If you have a pool full of yuppies and one shark comes along they all get eaten. Everyone cant be weak. Strength and grit are forms of COMPETANCE.
Oh my God could you actually shut the fuck up
Agreed
It is quite common to reuse arrows considering what it took to make them, it was a lot easier to retrieve one than to make another, which means the blood could have come from an issue prior to the one you state. The arrow head in his back, apparently had been there awhile, again, he might have been shot previously, and as most men do, toughed it out. Early men and women were not in the habit of changing clothes very often and would add new rather than change. So, the additional blood could have come from a previous fight or he just switched jackets.
Ötzi the first MLG quikscopa eva.
*****
Shot in the back by an archer. What a way to go...
Gg no re
My school sent me here, but honestly I'm not complaining, this is actually pretty cool
Otzi has been the coolest guy for a long time. (wink, wink):D
cuz he's in the alps? :D
Oof
Otzi probably knew his murderer very well. In all probability they were of the same village. Infact the killer turned otzi's corpse face down to recover his arrow (the position of the arm across the chest is very typical of this manuver. He had been turned face down after the death), but didn't take otzi's arrows, the bow, and the very valuable copper axe (isotopes' analysis revealed that the copper came form an ore in south Tuscany, 400 km away, it was not a common item).
Cause both the arrow on the dead body, or the possession of Otzi's items would have been incriminating.
I'm learning about this guy in class but it's really disturbing but also really cool
disturbing in what way
like kind of a little gross
the fact that you didn't include a picture is mindblowing
Oh great...another guy sitting in front of a laptop waving his arms and pontificating.
Human science has learned so much about this man, his culture, and his basic humanness from examining his body. Enough to respect him and his people highly. It is a pity we will not have the same breadth of opportunity with Kennewick Man!
Damn Americans not knowing how to pronounce Ö, you make him sound like some cute cartoon when saying Ootsie
Demew How Trace is saying it is actually closer to the Swedish Ö, but not the German Ö
TheVideoGameTriangle What are you on about? Hes just saying O.
ElinMoby Well, I am from Sweden to and it doesn't sound jack all like an Ö
That's just the name of the place they found him, we don't know his real name. To find his real name, we must, probably, go to the Druze mountain of Syria, Lebanon, Corsica in Italy to find a similar type
+So Eiu
Of course you can, ever said the word "girl"?
It's pronounced GÖL
I love this channel! Great work Trace and everybody who is working with it :)
Ötzi's last name is Norris..
West Pro Gamer he's probably chuck Norris's father
I believe it.
A photo of his preserved body would be icing on the cake
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or he didn't clean it from the last time he used it
that what I hate the most when they chose the coolest and talk about it as a fact
+سلمان الراجحي I think scientist woul figure out how fresh the first guys blood was before hitting the second guy. Blood coagulates.
Burak Baggins
Not sure about that
What if the last time was the morning he died and that is why they killed him
What I mean is there are endless storys that can hapen
I think blood would coagulate in 10 mins not sure though
+Burak Baggins yes, but what difference does it makes when all this happened 5k years ago that they found any trace of blood and where able to verify that it's from 2 different persons is so bloody amazing (pun intended) , there is no way to tell time frame between though....
I was always under the impression that Otzi's bow was unfinished, as in it wasn't done being made, properly tillered and so on. Maybe Wikipedia meant that it wasn't "finished" in the sense that it wasn't finished with a oil, like they do to better preserve the properties of the wood.
The first bamf
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The first Nightcrawler teleportation?
Has anyone copied Ötzi's and had them tattooed onto their own body? Do we even have a visual representation of what his tattoos looked like? Interesting, all around! Thanks for sharing this - I imagine there's a lot more to learn, as our knowledge grows!
This guy should relax his voice its kind of annoying.
Ötzi was a badass, two guys, one arrow.
Really? 3300 BCE- Not Very ancient for Humans,
I Mean in Mesopotamia they were already building kingdoms and city-states
I mean it is ancient for written history , this was the beginning of written records, but ancient in humanit , no,
this is Copper Age, i mean thats like saying WWI is ancient history, there is much more ancient
So Ötzi is not ancient
ancient is basically anything pre-history which is pre-writing, so anything before 3,200 bc is ancient.
God, I love you Trace!! You've gotta be one of the most knowledgeable men ever right now....thank you so so much for including us on your quest for worldly knowledges & wisdoms!! The art of learning, experience & the mastery of the fine, liberal & classical arts are commendable things to bring to the world, and I appreciate what you do!! It can't be easy to do what you do in the cynical world we live in & I hope you know how much this means!! Thank you for spreading what you learn! Sci, Soc &ALL
Otzi the Iceman could have been a Proto-Indo-European. Exciting :)
No they came in the bronze age ötzi lived long before that
Simmekakibackup2 Koujo
The Proto-Indo-Europeans lived in the late Neolithic to the Early Bronze Age (or Early Copper Age). I hypothesize the PIE peoples lived as early as 5500 BCE and started to spread the Indo-European languages and culture around in 3000-2500 BCE. There are many estimates as to when they lived, but this is my theory.
That is the general time period...
I'm a Biological Anthropology major and nothing gets me more pumped than Otzi. Except maybe The Catacombs of Palermo or The "Lady of Di" mummy. Mummies in general are just so fucking cool.
He was really short for 5 ft 3 inches.
That was about average height in Italy back then.
Italians today are still fairly short
+Frost Wolfe Depending who you compare them to...
everyone was short back in the day. not surprised at all
That's not "really short" let's try regular height lmao
I've just found this channel and subscribed, so interesting! I watch D News occasionally, but the host sounds so much better unscripted, so I'll be watching this much more often.
So how did the weather in the Alps preserve his body? Just because of the cold weather?
Jorie Alvarado One does wonder about the summers and the natural decay. Trace could explain that a bit more for sure.
He was likely found in Ice or Snow and he was probably buried of cover with Ice or Snow, both have properties that can slow down or kill the bacteria that eats the body.
Kyle HAYWOOD Right, I didn't realize he was embedded in ice even if he he's called the ice-man.. because he was found by hikers. Ice is more permanent than snow so he was iced for 5000 years and surfaced by luck.
***** Potentially, All depends on the history of Ötzi, and the area of where he was found.
Kicker_inc It needs to be high up or animals would see and destroy it. Snow have to come fast to cover it up. I never heard where he was found, if it was normally out in the open? If he was in a dispute as suggested he would seek a place where no-one goes.
A few images/renderings wouldn't have hurt this video. Thanks for the update.
This video was very informative and it helped me with my school project! thank you! :)
Ötzi The Iceman is now my hero. A complete badass.
You have super cool videos and ive watched them all, bud can you maybe put pictures in youre explains, that would make the image from the axplenation some more easy.
Thanks for the concise and informational commentary. Thanks too for omitting music which detracts from the narrative. More should take a lesson from your format.
I love Otzi. Also that cute derpy shirt and that cute derpy scientist :D Keep rocking on, Trace!
cool video, thanks for info about Ötzi.
Great video- maybe add some visuals so we can see what otzi looked like!
Ötzi the Iceman, was a very jolly soul, with a copper axe and a couple arrows-
The other thing they don't know, is why the others were after him. You may think he's so _"frikkin cool",_ but have you given that any thought?
Isn't it just as possible he himself was a cold-blooded killer who had been murdering others and they were just defending their families, as much as he may have been ambushed by them in cold blood?
Imagine going back in time to meet him? We couldn't warn him that he was going to be attacked at that location, and we might have trouble communicating with him, but still, it would be cool to meet him.
great video, but could the volume go a bit up. im watching it at max volume and its still hard. not everyone can watch in a isolated oasis.
Mankind at war hard to hear
Trace, was this video shot the same day as the others, or do you not change your shirt daily?
Should include some pics at the least, know it's more work per video, but in the length it's worth it. Nonetheless, great video. Interesting stuff
my favourite part of
this video was how they never showed Ötzi
What about doing a video explaining what techniques are used to date these ancient artifacts.
This is literally a video of a guy just reading about this ancient Iceman from his laptop. Couldn't even make a video pretending like you knew this information from research. No citing of sources, no helpful infographics, or pictures. Where did you get your information so I can actually learn about this ancient human from a source that can actually tell me something of value? Who approved of this video, and why do people like this? And, before I get the "If you don't like it, don't watch it" comments I'm saying this channel is just throwing out crap content for you people when they could be actually trying and making this informative piece a much better use of everyone's time. But they know they can just throw out anything for you zombies and you'll watch it.
Legends say the 2 people he shot with one arrow were yamnaya invaders
Otzi presents several problems for those who take the scriptures literally. According to the scriptures, it had not rained before the flood. If that were true, then there would not have been any snow or ice on the mountains. Since Otzi is 5300 years old, he was around before the flood. Before the flood there was only supposed to be something like the dew that watered the face of the Earth. It would be very difficult to amass enough dew to get the ice required to cover and completely freeze a body almost instantly. That is just the first part of the problem. Since Otzi apparently went through the flood, he would have thawed out and rotted before freezing again. Apparently that did not happen since he is almost totally intact. Perhaps Noah's flood did not reach to the Austrian alps, or Otzi has been mistakenly aged.
i love the way that he reads all the info off his laptop.
Would make a great movie i reckon. The Chronicles of Ötzi!
you cant know for certain that he was shot while eating a meal, he was just shot in the back at some point.
A few years ago, a director took up this theme of Özi in a cinema action film. However, this is only a reconstruction of many possibilities.
Now, many thousands of years ago
When Otzi was about twenty three
He was married to a widow
Who was probably as pretty as could be
This widow had a grown-up daughter who
Had hair of red
Otzi the iceman’s father fell in love with her
And soon the two were wed
This made Otzis dad his son-in-law
And changed his ice age life
For His daughter was his mother
'Cause she was Otzis father's wife
To complicate the matter
Even though it brought him joy
Otzi soon became the father
Of a bouncing baby Stone Age boy
His little baby then became
A brother-in-law to his dad
And so became his uncle
Though it made him very sad
For if he was his uncle
That also made him the brother
Of the widow's grown-up daughter
Who, of course, was his step-mother
Otzis father's wife then had a son
That kept them on the run
And he became Otzis grandchild
For he was Otzis daughter's son
Otzis wife was then his mother's mother
And it made him blue
Because, although she was his wife
She was his grandmother too
Now, if Otzis wife was his grandmother
Then, He was her grandchild
And every time He thought of it
It nearly drove him wild
For now He had become
The strangest prehistoric case you ever saw
As husband of his grandmother
He was his own grandpa
It sounds funny I know
But genetic tests show it was so
Otzi was his own grandpa
Great vid , thanks
thanks for the infomation for my history project man
if there was a movie about that guy i would watch it
I saw him in the museum in Bozen/Bolzano.
Attacked during a blizzard! That's why his killers didn't take his prized personal effects. He managed to escape -tracks covered by falling snow, but then died and was buried/preserved with all his possessions in snow.
I'm really curious: Do the people in the videos edit the videos, or are there dedicated editors. Second, is this your full time job?
Don't blame me for asking, blame my curiosity. :)
cold wind swept around the mountains, otzi and his hunting party, consisting of 4 members plus otzi, had lost their way in a snow storm and couldn't find their way back to their tribe and having burned through their food rations and it being too cold to hunt, they were surly dead, but otzi still had some food left as he had been given some spare rations by his father who had told him before he left "bring back food and that he would not be there when he returned." he was weak and a burden on the village so he would be executed his meat used for bait and bones for tools to carry on serving the living past death. he was pulled out of his reflection by a sudden dizziness, he stumbled slightly, he had been feeling sick for the last few suns he took some hop hornbeam out of his pack and ate it to try and reduce his illness "oi" one of his party members shouted "otzi has food.""Give us the food otzi" another said drawing his club."it's just hop hornbeam." Otzi replied tightening the grip on his bow"No I can smell the meat in your bag" otzi knew thay would try to kill him for the meat so he had no choice he drew his bow and shot the man in front of him point blank in the throat, the man to his left lunged at otzi attempting to gut him with his Flint knife but otzi was faster, managing to grab the blade of the knife and stop it, he then hit the man with his bow knocking him back before ducking a club swing of the third man he ran towards the body of the first man and wrenching his arrow out of the mans throat nocking it and firing at the man with the club, cutting a deep gouge in his his shoulder and continuing on behind him. he then ran towards the mountain but was stopped by the forth man in his party who tried to slash otzi with his knife but otzi stopped him, managed to disarm him and slit his neck spilling blood on his coat, the mans limp body then fell to the ground, otzi stepped over him and continued towards and up the mountain, picking up his arrow on the way there, he then took shelter in a cave, he had escaped he lit a fire had a rest then ate the last of his rations, staring into the fire thinking of his tribe, his father, and the ones who had betrayed him, as he dosed off in front of the fire he felt a sharp pain spike through his back he wailed in pain and turned around only to see a club smash into his face, then darkness.