Unraveling the Truth: Pre-Jesus Good Shepherd's Story |Parable
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- He lived in ancient Israel, he was called the “Good Shepherd”, he was killed by the Romans and he rose in three days. But he’s not Jesus! Shockingly, an ancient stone tablet that has emerged from the Jordanian antiquities market seems to suggest that there was a dying and rising Messiah before Jesus.
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It is because you are ignorant of three calanders.
The Anno Mundi, the Anno Lucis and the Anno Domini.
A moon calander , a lunisolar callander and a solar calander are differant in dates.
Meaning The birth of Jesus could have been between the year 3760 and 4000 BC , depending on wich callander you use
I think jesus was born at 7BCE because Jupiter Saturn conjunction took place at that time and herod the great died at 1BCE
@@saintsm you could be right , wich month and day.
Some say the 11 of September was at that year when it happened
@@morneterblanche2228 there ia a video in patheos TH-cam channel which claim to he between 4BC to 7BC no one knows the date
@@saintsm thanks , but to me the most important is to learn and teach how to have a relationship with God through his Son . The tabernacle of the most high .
His name was Brian
he's not the messiah! he's a very naughty boy!
Ohhh mannn that was a good one. Sad only 10 people are getting this haha
And don’t do it again.
Lmfao
@@jws8220 26 now; and I'm 26, lol.
So the guy casually has ancient tombstones and artifacts laying around in the bathroom, and tens of dead bodies stacked somewhere in the back.....This man is hustling antiquities. I aspire to be like him.
You've got to love this guy. He maybe should have covered his face a little. Dead guys in the back, hilarious. He must be making buckets of cash.
Become a grave Robber 😂
He has a bunch too lol
shawn nguyen me too count me in bro we hustle together
The guy you’re talking about is an archeologist, they study in college for this, pay attention to what you’re watching 😉
I accidently found a stone tablet in my garden, shokingly mentioning that my granny was the queen of Sheba...I"m not welling to show it, but everyone is more than welcome to make replicas and analyze them.
Lol, soooo funny 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💋💋
I ain't a Christian, but I absolutely agree that the stupid theory promoted through this video is a rather pathetic attempt to discredit Christianity.
@@smokiebad
Christianity is not what Jesus (Yeshua in Hebrew) was Practicing. He was practicing Judaism and was a Rabbi. The "Followers of Jesus" were too.
Constatine established Christianity loosely based on Yeshua.
Christianity was established for his "1 State Religion".
The Romans loathed the Jews, That's why they used Paul rather than James (the brother of Jesus)
@@bethbartlett5692 Just because a dialogue in a gospel has a character call him 'rabbi' or 'rabboni' doesn't make it true, and it contradicts the birth stories which would make Jesus technically a bastard, and according to Judaism a bastard could not be a rabbi. Just sayin'....
😄😊🤭😅😆🤗😂
Its worth noting that there were many religious movements, some would call "cults" as well as prophetic individuals in the Eastern Mediterranean at this time. They were short lived and obscured, but were an important social element of the time, and a threat to the religious status quo wherever they were. One needs to consider that when trying to understand the world that Christ existed in. These were the masses that the apostles reached out to, not just Jews or Romans. They were different ethnic groups in that part of the world, and they were looking for salvation beyond what their traditional ethnic religions could offer. And there was this plethora of other radical or controversial religious movements that the apostles were more or less, competing with.
Christianity is a cult. The 12 didn’t reach out to foreigners, only Paul did, the apostles never existed
People need to stop looking at the history of religion from a linear timeline. Given the factors of the region at the time alot of these beliefs were not as widespread as they are today. Meaning they were many beliefs and similar ones at that. Alot of these groups would intermingle and thus the beliefs did to. You can see many of these ideas and concepts ingrained in most of the surviving beliefs.
@@HistoryandReviews Proof the apostles never existed rather than just making a statement to further your own agenda?
@@retired5218 There is overwhelming evidence that Jesus never existed or his apostles. Nobody writing the new testament ever met Jesus, that right there should tell you what you need to know about the new testament. Too much tampering with to fit your own narrative, way too much assuming things could have happened with 0 evidence. Faith, normally is the religious peoples counter to this. Human beings are imperfect, some with mental conditions and schizophrenia, confirmation bias, ext. There is way more evidence of human intervention.
Jospehus' Description of Jesus
Now, there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man, for he was a doer of wonderful works-a teacher of such men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of the Jews, and many of the Gentiles.
Many claim this line was later inserted in by Christians. A common practice by them. Also, this in no way is evidence for linking to your supposed "Messiah". Jesus was a common name back then. There is actually an older story in Hebrew that references a Jesus angel figure that was killed by Satan in space and then resurrected.
Paul or letters from Paul
Many Christains and scholars agree that many of these letters were not written by Paul. Paul's name carried enormous weight in the foundation of the Catholic church. Paul never met Jesus (Had visions of him? Sounds like delusions) and many other early followers would use his name to try and pass canonical laws. Homosexuals and women as preists were two of the big ones.
Sounds like more human intervention to me especially when in the old testament there is no reference to Hell, Homosexuality, or problems with women as leaders.
There is no existing letter from Pontius Pilate to the Roman emperor about Jesus.
Not only that but there are no existing texts mentionning Jesus that were written during the period he is supposed to have lived.
All existing documents that mention him have been written decades after the alleged facts. This is why some historians maintain that we can’t be certain Jesus even existed.
To summarize this, pretty much all of the so called historical references to Jesus that Christian's love to go back and source like a robot, have almost 0 historical evidence or sources. You would think that there would be more writers talking about all of the crazy events that went down in the bible, like the undead event after Jesus death. None, how is there no writing about this!? Do not tell me there were not enough writers at the time, undead going through the streets would be remembered lol.
The earth shook, the rocks split and the tombs broke open. The bodies of many holy people who had died were raised to life. They came out of the tombs after Jesus' resurrection and went into the holy city and appeared to many people. When the centurion and those with him who were guarding Jesus saw the earthquake and all that had happened, they were terrified, and exclaimed, "Surely he was the Son of God!"'(Matthew 27: 50-54)
If you believe that hog wash, then good luck in this complicated amazing life!
here's one problem we face when investigating the past - CAPITALIST GREED! no one OWNS these artifacts. they belong to ALL humanity regardless of the lies we're told by the capitalist profiteers.
you want to find REAL HISTORY without bias, preconceptions or cover-ups? remove the damned corrupting influence of the profit motive from the process. but this will never happen as long as we continue to allow the ruling elite to claim THEY OWN THE WORLD!
35:57 This right here is the most important part, if you want to save yourself a lot of time.
Of which book?
You are the savior of our time!
Thanks.for the heads up..
And the minions cry out "long live Simon!"
Can you read us the full text of the stone tablet instead of just bits and pieces? This helps in understanding the context. Thanks.
No. That wouldn't be sensational enough. It's much more "exciting" to reveal the contents piecemeal and between advertising slots. 🤑
They don't because its a fraud
of course they can't...You didn't catch on that it was a fraud?
This guy doing these documentaries.... UFOs were ancient Egyptian gods etc..... All is cheerleaders of the united nations... Don't fall for any of it....
@@rambo8218 just like the bible
There are some disagreements as to the interpretation of Gabriel's command. Instead of "In three days: live," it could mean "Best used within three days," or "When open, refrigerate."
Yep. The ancient Greek text bears this out.
They have refrigerators 2000 plus years ago
yerpyaboy absolutely Candy we're making ice dispensers and alsorts back then. Many even had flatscreen tv to cure boredom😉
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I was curious about the innumerable incorruptible bodies strewn thruout Christianity...over the ages .
A commin denominator is that tho they are in various states of disrepair...some even vandalised to provide relics...yet they do not STINK.
All the perfumes of Arabia cannot prevent a corpse from smelling...even plastination is not perfect...
I stopped watching after the owner of the artifact refused to give physical access to it so that it could be studied….. this is a joke…. I don’t know how a replica can be analyzed for the purpose of determining the date of the original lol
Finally someone said what i was thinking of it. Thought I was the only one saying, they are making stories to fool the people.
It’s just like with some mummies 15-30 thousand years old, whoever does the autopsy can figure out when it diedand how and bodies found in the forest after days of dying can’t figure out what the causes were... what the f.....
I'm skeptical myself, buy there is an answer to your objection: The date of the original was determined by typology--examining the types of certain Hebrew letter that are known to have changed over time. That can be done just as effectively with a replica as with the original. What you can't do with a replica, though, is determine the authenticity of the original. I am skeptical about its authenticity, not about its date if the stone is authentic.
@@david5192 even typology can be misleading. One problem I have with the typology is that the letters are supposedly painted. Someone could well have painted them later (say the end of the 1st century to the mid 2nd century) in an older script and over-shot.
There may also have been writers who maintained earlier forms for longer because they learned to write from someone more old school for the time.
Finally, sometimes older forms are chosen for a contemporary use in order to lend some gravitas. How many gravestones today are etched in Times New Roman or Calibri? Certainly fewer than are etched in a neo-Roman or Gothic types.
The certainty of such a conclusion when the later bound is so close to the time period of Jesus makes me think that the analyst has some stake in a particular conclusion, i.e. being from before Jesus in order to say "yes, Jesus was definitely no more than a copycat". The whole documentary seems to suffer from a lack of skepticism and rigor and instead seems to be trying to craft a particular narrative.
Agreed!
So wild that people think that the 3 Day Resurrection idea only came after Jesus death burial and Resurrection. Isaiah prophesied about many of the prophets prophesied about it. If anything it is more proof that Jesus is the son of God since this Stone day so closely to his time
Jesus mention, he would rise on the third day according to the scripture . But that scripture is nowhere found in the O.T
His suffering and dying -yes; not the third day prophecy .
So why would Jesus quote as a prophecy if it wasn't written in the O.T?
Nope many other ancient dirties croaked and rose after three days. It has to do with the winter equinox
Jesus references other 'people that came before' him. He knew there were others claiming to be messiahs.
Excellent! I must have missed the part where I got shaken. Simka has made everything fit perfectly. As usual.
I have showed the right way. Please Jesus and Messiah protect my family!
bro, this video is more biased than a CNN/Fox News video 😂
It’s refreshing to see someone who can acknowledge that both sides are cherry picking, biased bastards lol
All this mans videos are the same... I watch them to remind me just how corrupt religion is.... free Palestine
Free Palestine
martin luther recognised a liar when he met one
comparing CNN to a propaganda network shows your own ignorance.
A guy licensed to sell antiquities would not be my choice to verify the historicity of an antiquity...🤔🤨😁 call me a bit skeptical...😁🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Vary true but he can give insight about the text if nothing else.
he managed to make an entire episode for a stone tablet that was probably fake. if typology is the only way you can rely on to know its age, then i could make a stone tablet right now that predates even this messiah and call it the messiah before the idea of messiah. black market authenticity experts are mostly commissioned to say that an article is authentic to bump up the price and increase their cut, and this balding guy knows that, yet he ignored it to make another controversial episode.
It looks totally faked to me, too easy to read. Like an antiqued beam that looks like it wants to be old.
It is accepted by Scholars.
Fake maybe, but indeed Hosea 6 was known far before The slaughter of the innocence and the death of Herod, Which if you pay very close attention to is the time when Jesus was born this documentary is so chronologically, purposely, deceptive
It's certainly possible for ink to not fade after 2000 years but as this video demonstrates, creating fakes is entirely possible. Someone with knowledge in typology can accomplish the task.
@@bethbartlett5692 it wouldn't be the first time they were wrong.
Love these documentaries. So much information we did not learn at school and so many new discoveries.....FAB
A delightful examination and story, one is urged to believe every word as it is atmospheric of the times and politics but no one knew how big the story would become.
I remember fifty years ago at grammar school a classics master told us that the "three day resurrection" myth went back many thousands of years before "modern religions" and referred to ancient Moon Cults where the "death" of the "old" moon was followed on the third day by the rebirth of the New Moon. (All gods and religions being invented by humans of course).
it comes from ancient Egypt aswell, there are many similarities between Isis and Jesus, scholars have said Jesus story was taken from the Isis story
Yes it does, you're correct
He's right. And pagen.
@@Michael-tl2qr if you're referring to Osiris, Isis and Horus no there are so many differences there that make it a completely different story in and of itself obviously. Plus the time frames don't add up. I'll stick with the biblical reference instead.
@@Michael-tl2qr alongside there are many that foreseen his coming!
Initially, most scholars believed that the inscription was authentic although more recently scholars have been coming to the conclusion that it is a modern fake
Seems a lot more likely. Looked too clean even through the picture. This reminds me of the recent push that Christianity was preceded by the Pythagorean cult. No basis other than to attempt to undermine Christ.
And three legions didn't make 30k people. I finished before 15'...
@@MauroBalbino001 Great point. I can't imagine the Romans would be able to put that many together anyway. The life of a legionnaire back then was almost as bad as a Gladiator. At least a Gladiator would die quickly or live to fight another day and they were pretty well cared for because they were the entertainers back then Some were even rewarded with property and some status. A soldier in the legion, however, had a better chance of dying of dysentery from bad water, food poisoning from ingesting anything either poisoned or contaminated with harmful bacteria, gangrene from a necrotic wound or maybe even left to die in the desert or forest from injuries sustained in battle. God help them if they became prisoners of the enemy. Who knows what injustices they would have suffered. A Roman man was better off being a Gladiator.
@@CaliforniaCarpenter7 Pythagoras does come before Christ chronologically.
@@xaosm_os yup. I can tear apart the bible amd show you how it connects to all other religions really. Nobody has it right, and by nobody i mean none of the main or second tier religions
An interesting story that certainly deserves further research and particularly verification and analysis of the original stone tablet. The symbolism involved e.g. the three shepherds does not make the investigation any easier. Moreover, the tablet was probably inscribed long after the events. Rising on the third day is an ancient Middle Eastern tradition. The Babylonian goddess Ishtar (Easter) emerged from the Underworld fully dressed after three days having been required to remove clothing at each of the seven gates of the Underworld. (the dance of the seven veils). Another problem arises in separating Jesus of the Gospels from other possible Messiahs of the same era, contemporary Roman records are important here.
I like turtles
research has been done. The man who first interpreted the stone has abandoned his claim that the stone read rising on the third day.
@arun nt You're ignorant of the facts
@arun nt why would you belie a everything except that?
@arun ntif you don't believe Jesus was Go you don't believe the bible
How can a "replica" help the expert determine dating any more accurately than the photocopy?
My exact questions
He wanned to see it. Not for dating, he just wanned to see it
It doesn't. You wouldn't have a show if you didn't have drama
Can't prove authenticity with a fake replica. You can't scientifically test a fake to determine the age of the supposedly original.
Because he´s Simcha, the very same that found the ossuary of Christ and his family. Did you hear about that? Of course not because it's just crap as anything this guy does.
ou my, this same "investigative" journalist has already found Jesus 'wife and Jesus' coffin ... and if this is anything like the previous "shocks" to Christians, then this one is certainly almost a hundred years old ...
I am convinced of one thing, this video is 43 minutes that I will never get back.
It was a prophecy about Jesus Christ like all the others in Isaiah who lived 700years before Jesus and many more prophesies about the life, death and resurrection of Jesus!
My first thought when looking at the tablet was the writing looks way too clear and fresh to be authentic.
That's because they made a replica on account of them not being allowed to see the original tablet. The replica is the one in all the shots. I thought it looked strange as well until I saw that part of the video.
Bravo! Well done. I've often wondered why Christians seldom speak about John the Baptist being Jesus cousin and how strange it is that Gabriel came to visit both Elizabeth and Mary. Also lesser known fact Elizabeth and Mary are both from the tribe of Levi. Thank you for the wonderful video you connected a few of the dots 👍👍
this is complete fiction
@@pdworld3421 the bible?
@@husrebel494 No. The commentary in this video. Look up all the claims they make here and you'll see - they're complete conjecture. When they most theologian believe... If ANY. theologian believes it is not MOST. Most Christians do NOT believe Jesus had brothers. This shows a complete lack of understanding biblical interpretation and ancient Greek.
@@pdworld3421 Well, he had half-brothers, they are even named in the Gospels - James, Joses, Jude and Simon. James took over leadership of the Jesus movement in Jerusalem following Jesus' death in approx 30 AD/CE.
@@zavi13 This is a misunderstanding of the original Greek. There was no word for blood brother in ancient Greek. The word translated as brother could mean brother or cousin. It was the same Greek word.
Messiah is a word that applies to someone that liberates. A great liberator can be used for many people throughout history. Perhaps his story was a part of the prophecy. Many will come and claim to be the Messiah. Everyone assumes that this is referring to the second coming of Jesus. What if it also referred to birth of a Messiah. Not necessarily the one true Messiah but a liberator. Much less emphasis on liberator than Messiah.
possible because the Jews are still waiting for their Messiah
Nah,Bible clearly says Jesus is the Messiah,Jesus fulfilled many prophesies regarding that but Jews still don't accept Him due to pure ignorance. Second Coming will not be Christ dying on the Cross again but Him taking the Christians to Heaven while what is left here on earth will deal with satan.
@@justroberto7646
Lol!
The 'Bible'?
No, the New Testament.
And Jews know that the Old Testament states that the Creator of all is not a man. Since knowing Hebrew is not a sign of "pure ignorance", but actually the opposite.
@@davidschalit907 The Old Testsment talks about the Messiah,The Son or God. The fact that you tell me no it doesn't leads me to believe that either 1. You're lying about reading The Old Testament 2. You're ignorant. Read Isaiah 53
@@davidschalit907 1 Messiah would be born of a woman. Genesis 3:15 Matthew 1:20
Galatians 4:4
2 Messiah would be born in Bethlehem. Micah 5:2 Matthew 2:1
Luke 2:4-6
3 Messiah would be born of a virgin. Isaiah 7:14 Matthew 1:22-23
Luke 1:26-31
4 Messiah would come from the line of Abraham.
Genesis 12:3
Genesis 22:18
Matthew 1:1
Romans 9:5
5 Messiah would be a descendant of Isaac.
Genesis 17:19
Genesis 21:12 Luke 3:34
6 Messiah would be a descendant of Jacob. Numbers 24:17 Matthew 1:2
7 Messiah would come from the tribe of Judah. Genesis 49:10 Luke 3:33
Hebrews 7:14
8 Messiah would be heir to King David's throne. 2 Samuel 7:12-13
Isaiah 9:7
Luke 1:32-33
Romans 1:3
9 Messiah's throne will be anointed and eternal. Psalm 45:6-7
Daniel 2:44
Luke 1:33
Hebrews 1:8-12
10 Messiah would be called Immanuel. Isaiah 7:14 Matthew 1:23
11 Messiah would spend a season in Egypt. Hosea 11:1 Matthew 2:14-15
12 A massacre of children would happen at
Messiah's birthplace. Jeremiah 31:15 Matthew 2:16-18
13 A messenger would prepare the way for Messiah Isaiah 40:3-5 Luke 3:3-6
14 Messiah would be rejected by his own people. Psalm 69:8
Isaiah 53:3
John 1:11
John 7:5
15 Messiah would be a prophet. Deuteronomy
18:15 Acts 3:20-22
16 Messiah would be preceded by Elijah. Malachi 4:5-6 Matthew 11:13-14
17 Messiah would be declared the Son of God. Psalm 2:7 Matthew 3:16-17
18 Messiah would be called a Nazarene. Isaiah 11:1 Matthew 2:23
19 Messiah would bring light to Galilee. Isaiah 9:1-2 Matthew 4:13-16
20 Messiah would speak in parables.
Psalm 78:2-4
Isaiah 6:9-10
Matthew 13:10-15,
34-35
21 Messiah would be sent to heal the
brokenhearted. Isaiah 61:1-2 Luke 4:18-19
22 Messiah would be a priest after the order of
Melchizedek.
Psalm 110:4 Hebrews 5:5-6
23 Messiah would be called King. Psalm 2:6
Zechariah 9:9
Matthew 27:37
Mark 11:7-11
24 Messiah would be praised by little children. Psalm 8:2 Matthew 21:16
25 Messiah would be betrayed.
Psalm 41:9
Zechariah 11:12-
13
Luke 22:47-48
Matthew 26:14-
16
26 Messiah's price money would be used to buy a
potter's field.
Zechariah 11:12-
13
Matthew 27:9-
10
27 Messiah would be falsely accused. Psalm 35:11 Mark 14:57-58
28 Messiah would be silent before his accusers. Isaiah 53:7 Mark 15:4-5
29 Messiah would be spat upon and struck. Isaiah 50:6 Matthew 26:67
30 Messiah would be hated without cause. Psalm 35:19
Psalm 69:4 John 15:24-25
31 Messiah would be crucified with criminals. Isaiah 53:12 Matthew 27:38
Mark 15:27-28
32 Messiah would be given vinegar to drink. Psalm 69:21 Matthew 27:34
John 19:28-30
33 Messiah's hands and feet would be pierced. Psalm 22:16
Zechariah 12:10 John 20:25-27
34 Messiah would be mocked and ridiculed. Psalm 22:7-8 Luke 23:35
35 Soldiers would gamble for Messiah's garments. Psalm 22:18
Luke 23:34
Matthew 27:35-
36
36 Messiah's bones would not be broken. Exodus 12:46
Psalm 34:20 John 19:33-36
37 Messiah would be forsaken by God. Psalm 22:1 Matthew 27:46
38 Messiah would pray for his enemies. Psalm 109:4 Luke 23:34
39 Soldiers would pierce Messiah's side. Zechariah 12:10 John 19:34
40 Messiah would be buried with the rich. Isaiah 53:9 Matthew 27:57-
60
41 Messiah would resurrect from the dead. Psalm 16:10
Psalm 49:15
Matthew 28:2-7
Acts 2:22-32
42 Messiah would ascend to heaven. Psalm 24:7-10 Mark 16:19
Luke 24:51
43 Messiah would be seated at God's right hand. Psalm 68:18
Psalm 110:1
Mark 16:19
Matthew 22:44
44 Messiah would be a sacrifice for sin. Isaiah 53:5-12 Romans 5:6-8
I would question the validity of the stone since it cannot be verified by anyone else but the owner of the stone and or anybody he has hired to validate it.
lol, that's like saying the bible is true because the bible says it's true !
@@GavTatu the Bible was written by dozens of people though and most haven't met each other . They don't contradict each other. One thing is clear though. That the God from Old Testament seems a bit different than the God of the New Testament
@@GavTatu In my opinion: So what if it was an old text. Oh... so old... must have secret truths awaiting to be revealed. Who wrote it? Doesn't matter because it's so old. 🤣
People should get over their post hoc taboo totem allure.
@@kennymichaelalanya7134 The different writers of the Bible DO contradict each other, on numerous points many times over, and not only between Testaments.
@@kennymichaelalanya7134 the Bible was rewritten many times with many changes, always being updated at the request of someone in power.
Even if you establish that this was written before AD 1, the faithful will simply respond that it must have been a prophecy. Doctrinal compliance drives interpretive reasoning, not vice versa.
Americans without classical educations don't understand centuries of Hellenization before Jesus and the philosophy of metempsychosis (reincarnation). “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.” - John 8:58. It would be perfectly fine for God to incarnate himself many times before His incarnation in Jesus.
Because the bible tells me so.. 🎶🎶
@@chrisyoung5363 I hear he was lac-toes intolerant..hence he healed the lepers..
@@scottmcloughlin4371 thanks for the intelligent and thought provoking comment. Very interesting and very possible. The 5 ages....
@@ritatorrez552 I study Buddhist Sutras in Sanskrit and Christian Scripture in Greek. Last year I read compendium "The Pythagorean Sourcebook" (Pythagoras is credited with coining our term Philosophy, among other credits) which really opened my eyes. Pythagoras studied with "Indian Gymnosophists" and preached (like the most famous Pythagorean, Plato) reincarnation ("rebirth" or metempsychosis). In case you didn't know, Augustine like many other early Christians (Justin Martyr comes to mind) was a Platonist (most classically educated literate Romans and Greeks were) and also a Manichean (who merged Christianity with Buddhist teachings). I'm now I'm reading Hurtado's "Destroyer of the Gods" (on early Christianity), which is putting more pieces together. I don't want to take away from the importance of our real churches (the people, not the buildings), but Christian doctrines are making more and more sense now. The primary virtue of Christian philosophers over the pagan Sophists is that Christians sought a) consensus and b) correlation with creation (nature, reality) and not just the Sophist's focus on sounding good, winning debates and arguing for money. It sounds odd to modern ears, but Christian philosophers were the original natural philosophers. Even our term "Faith" is a bad translation of Pistis, an essential component of Aristotle's logic and rhetoric. "En arche was the Logos, and the Logos was with God and the Logos was God." John 1:1. Peace be with you!
2000 year old ink on stone. The phrase is “written IN stone” not “ON stone”
In stone if carved, on stone if painted or drawn.
@@aminrodriguez4707 no. You can ask 10,000 people. “On stone” ain’t a thing.
Peace be upon you.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
5 And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve:
6 After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep.
7 After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles.
8 And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time.
9 For I am the least of the apostles, that am not meet to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.
10 But by the grace of God I am what I am: and his grace which was bestowed upon me was not in vain; but I laboured more abundantly than they all: yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me.
11 Therefore whether it were I or they, so we preach, and so ye believed.
12 Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?
13 But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:
14 And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.
15 Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.
16 For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised:
17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.
18 Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished.
19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.
20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.1 Corinthians 15:3-20
Every few years there is something new.The tomb of Jesus! This Gospel, that whatever, I also remember this 'event that would shock Christianity' . A few years later. Forgotten by now.
Matthew 12:39 suggests that the miracle of Jonah was the origin of the resurrection motif. But Jonah's story is possibly an allegory for an underworld and rebirth journey. This was a prevalent mythological theme throughout the Near East. It's also a prevalent theme in shamanism, equating to ego death and psychic rebirth.
It relates to astrotheology. If you do enough research, you will see how it all relates, and points to the truth. To understand the most high, you must understand yourself
For example, Lucifer is a Roman name, added to the bible by constantine at nicea. It is in reference to Venus around spring time. It is the morning star that announces the arrival of the sun and competes with it to be the most high, but can't take the throne because of it's trajectory and sinks below the horizon, or "falls from heaven." This is also John the baptist, for he announces the arrival of the son, someone greater than he. If jesus is the right hand, then john the baptist is the left hand, which makes him samael, the baphomet. But in abrahamic religions, the left hand is muhammad, whose day is friday, who is frigg or lucifer. It's even structured in our week. Friday to the left of saturday, when the hebrews take their sabbath. When does Islam take their sabbath? Friday. Lucifers day. Venus day. Friggs day. The day of john the baptist, the baphomet, mahomet. This also corresponds to aquarius. All this explained in Matthew chapter 3.
@Dri Ven astrotheology isn't a roman thing. It predates roman and even hebrew teaching. The abrahamic religions are retellings of Hinduism
@@joshuacromley7439 To combine symbolism from different ages won't give you a grand scheme of things. Those symbols are place-and-time specific and mean what they meant to the people of that place at that time. You can't overlay a medieval concept over an ancient biblical one and call it the same thing.
@@user-jt5ot4hy9q medieval? Dude what are you talking about?
In the early 1900's Frank Robinson of Moscow, Idaho wrote a book titled:
"Crucified Gods Galore"
Is it any count?
Thanks! This will be interesting!
My daughter graduated from the college there.
Is good? What is it about? Do you recommend it?
@@yuunneemedina9545 I read all Robinson's books.
It was many years ago. There were many godz that shared attributes with
the man from Galilee. 19 if I remember correctly.
I am definitely not at an expert nor a Christian believer. I am just interested the analyzing the apparent "facts" presented here. With overall observation you can find out the intent of the whole documentary. 26:47 shows all of the alleged authentic stones from Mr. Sholmo - "legal" collection of antiquities - with red ink while about 1:14 shows dark ink on the reproduction. Noticed how the director push to "promote" to viewers in the beginning of the documentary starting from about minut 1:14 and 3:58 onwards that the replica stone looks authentic and later on mention it was reproduction. Plus they also conveniently tried to reinforce their investigation by show Simka talking to the so-called shady israeli collector whole lives in switzerland from 6:40 onwards and failed to get access to the original inscription. How could they get the number of the "shady" collector or trader? Who is this David the antiquity collector/ trader? I would like to see a body language expert analyze the host and the guests that were in the documentary especially Mr. Sholmo from 25:00 onwards.
Good points to note. Thank you! Every Time i watch a youtube video I take my time and read some comments from people that are not vias and see the bs most documents present as facts.
Gotta watch out for those shady collectors.
I'm sure Mr. Sholmo (Shlomo?) is a member of a certain tribe of nepotists that hate Jesus and use every chance they can to discredit him
@@ghost2coast296 Morty don't Need to plan ahead Sense Since they check in every chance they're able too>.
They are just a bunch of liars, doing what they can do best : lying, misleading, fraud mixing truth with lies...there are like a million documentaries trying to prove that Jesus did not exist, or he did but was a Buddist monk, or it was an alien, on the other hand they don't spend any effort to question Moses Solomon or David's existance..coincidences? hardly!
This series is the "ancient aliens" of religion documentaries.
Like a self fulfilling prophecy story. Maybe something along the lines that ideas/concepts transcend death. Manifesting of a miracle.
"We will decide if it pre-dates Jesus after we duplicate it"
We won't make it say what we want...promise.
How did ink survive 21centuries?
To know what's in it, first we have to vote on it. The joke is on us.
Awesome, thanks 🕊️☮️
The bible is mentioning some rebels that made an inpact before Jesus came. And da messiah came frist time as a suffering messiah to make peace people with allmighty and Saint creator. And he will come again a second time as King of Kings with an army of his angels and He willl judge the world how it says in revelation...
"Then stood there up one in the council, a Pharisee, named Gamaliel, a doctor of the law, had in reputation among all the people, and commanded to put the apostles forth a little space;
And said unto them, Ye men of Israel, take heed to yourselves what ye intend to do as touching these men.
For before these days rose up Theudas, boasting himself to be somebody; to whom a number of men, about four hundred, joined themselves: who was slain; and all, as many as obeyed him, were scattered, and brought to nought.
After this man rose up Judas of Galilee in the days of the taxing, and drew away much people after him: he also perished; and all, even as many as obeyed him, were dispersed.
And now I say unto you, Refrain from these men, and let them alone: for if this counsel or this work be of men, it will come to nought:
But if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found even to fight against God."
Acts 5:34-39
The instruction about rising on the third day , amounts to a memorial of Abraham repeated by Moses. Abraham made a three day journey from Beersheba to Salem or Jerusalem, instructed by the Spirit , whom Abraham believed this Spirit he was communing with, was God, and the Spirit summoned Abraham to bring his son Isaac to the Altar , for a Meeting of consequences. So Moses told the Israelite to prepare three days to go up Mount Sinai to meet God , in a similar quest of receiving instructions. So the theme of rising on the third day is common in the Bible, from the earliest times, a period of preparing for a sacred meeting, traveling, praying, fasting and the like. So that any sort of Meeting between a Patriarch and God would incur a time of sequences of deeds, passing three days. It was considered that overall , all of time, from Mount Sinai to the return of God to Israel, in a consequential way , would be Three Passovers or Three Days of the Lord, as unique moments in history. So Jesus was able to point out to his own disciples why the Messiah had to die and three days had to pass before the resurrection . Because Jesus died during a Passover Week of Eight Days, not seven, then Jesus died on the 6th day and was lain in the tomb for the 7th and 8th day, which ended a term of a year in their calendar and began a new year event. Adding an extra day to Passover Week is like a Leap Year Day , and the reason for the extra day to the end of the old year in Passover, was that the High Priest waited for the Full Moon to reign the evening leading to the Morning Star and the Spring Vernal Equinox Sunrise , as in certain years of Easter, that this alignment caused the city of Jerusalem to have perpetual light for 24 hours, a day of First Light, by the Full Moon the Morning Star and the Sunrise on Easter. So Jesus was in the tomb for three days and nights. when using the Temple Calendar, legally invoked by a High Priest of Israel , which the Jews have not used for two thousand years.
Superb description 👌
😲 may I have your references ,
I'm interested to know more about this
Jonah also spent three days and nights in the mouth of the big fish
@@quintincastro7430 For the Saints to walk in the Way of the Lord, provides insight to the Traditions of the Patriarchs, that combine to instruct Moses, as Moses saw the patterns of signs , in the Heavens, it was like reading out the ages, looking back to the details of the lives of the Patriarchs for signs of God' s companionship with them, and repeating them in a memorial that builds upon the same things. So Solomon said "There is nothing new under the Sun". So what shall be hereafter , has already been so before. This means that the future covenant has a familiar pattern , like a woven cloth, the material has a weave that is a pattern used repeatedly. When we speak of a "Loophole" in the Law, that means from the patterns of how it was crafted , certain passages are holes or escape hatches, in and out of the whole cloth. So a doorway to Heaven, is a Loophole in the design of the Cloth.
Gospel of John is a joke! Jesus ministry only lasted 2-6 months max!
We know there were “Messiahs” in Judea before Jesus. Josephus is one source on the accounts of such “messiahs”
I have heard also about being others before Jesus and I've also heard that God impregnated women before he did Mary which makes sense because he new that he had tested his theory. I'm wondering if he saw that the angels who impregnated women worked so well he came up with impregnated x
@@brownshugga8295 you're joking!
Not with the dame story though. . That's the point of thus video
@@brownshugga8295 Reminds me of some of the _miracles(?)_ of the Pagan God *_Mithra_*
He was born to a virgin
He was referred to as the son of God
He rose 3 days after his death.
_Mithraism_ was the most popular religion followed by officers in the Roman Army until the 4th Century
@@YusufGinnah Mithra was never born and never died, stop repeating misinformation, read historians specialized in antiquities not gossip from the internet
Jesus was known to be the King of Kings Not the Prince of Princes... Just so you know.
Shahanshah .. and so on .. there were lots of these kind of names in those days and before .. Aga Khan (King of Kings (lions, actually).. Agamemnon .. 'King of men'. So what i am trying to say is that this naming convention is not the preserve of christ or christianity. So Prince of Princes is no differnt from King of Kings .. for those that used the expression in the day. For us today, we put our modern meanings on things from the ancient past. Another is Caesar .. Kaiser, Tsar etc., Originally a name that became a title.. And possibly pronounced Kay-EZ-er .. not Seezer .. as we say, today. All interesting stuff without an agenda (me, that is.. I do NOT comment upon others ... inc your good self) .. :-)
King of Jews, actually
Isaiah 9:6 indicates that Jesus would be given the title "Prince of Peace". Before he can become the King of Kings, he must receive a Kingdom, Revelation 11:15. He ascended to the right hand of God and inherited the throne after the resurrection, not before.
Amen.
Once I read Roman's chapter 13 and knew why the Bible was created. I then researched how! A Roman ceasar who was tired of rebellions, and not "the actual word of God" as I was told..... Then I realized our souls live forever and we are reborn. After seeing many people be hypnotized to previous lives watching them speak languages they never knew, I knew I was right!
My theory is that we are spirits of the earth as we have no past life memories of any other planet, only this one and we know the universe is full of other worlds. We are the leaves of a great tree (the earth) whose branches grow and produce more leaves such as our growing population and more souls on earth over time. We are made of the same stuff from the earliest days of the creation of the universe when organisms had only a single cell existing in higher and more complex forms over time with evolving consciousness. The leaves will wither and die but new leaves will grow in their place, reincarnation. One day the tree dies, the way the sun will die and the earth will freeze and die too. I cannot imagine what happens after that but perhaps it is a cycle within a larger cycle within yet an even larger cycle, just as in death our souls continue to exist, on a different level the death of our planet brings about a much larger transformation to another plane of existence because we can no longer reincarnate here, eventually our galaxy dies, and then the universe, perhaps to infinity as there may be an infinite number of layers to our existence.
@@gobofraggel7383 The tree is Yggdrasil
@@claireseyeviewonredbubble lol tree of life
@@claireseyeviewonredbubble The tree of life was mention in the book if Genesis
The story of a Messiah or a religious leader with his disciples is found in other cultures.
Like which one?
@@footballheritage942 OMG... at least three others.
Have you never studied this?
@@footballheritage942 all of them look into ancient texts. All the stories in the bible happened in religions that predate the bible.
If one wants to see what inspired those who created the story of Jesus, look no further than the Roman god Mithras.
The greatest hoax of all time is the story of Jesus, the story of Apollo & Mythris = Jesus, Emperor Constantine created the greatest HOAX of ALL time!, he seen his self as divinely ordained! I did some SERIOUS research just as I advise EVERYONE on the face of the Earth to do the very same!
I researched and see little to no connection moving on
Holy Mitra is a real person from the Danube River,a Slavic leader who get a God's status bcse of his love like behavior
Nothing but stories & fairy tails from the knwon human history!
Except you have references from Philo, Josephus , and many others who say Jesus was a Jewish man who was crucified. No historian doubts the historical Jesus.
To know the true Messiah I believe that we should look at the prophesies by the Old testament prophets. And whether the Messiah was influenced by the birth of ideas or teachings by other people other than his divinity, it doesn't matter. Does the Messiah accomplish what the prophets say about him? From what history has to offer us Jesus the Nazarene is the Messiah and I believe so because of a particular outstanding prophesy in Isaiah 53
Listen to Tovia Singer. He'll change your mind. Type in Isaiah 54 and Tovia Singer.
Or later biblical writers could have merely written in the fulfillment of prophecies to give Jesus more credibility. If there was a man in Roman occupied Judea that was healing the sick, seizing storms, etc., there would be some Roman mention of it. I think a historical Jesus did exist, but I don’t think there is any way he was divine
Simcha is a tenacious Researcher, a required fortitude in his area of expertise.
Yeshua (Hebrew for Jesus) was a Rabbi practicing Judaism, the Followers of Yeshua were, as well. .
Christianity came about from the efforts of Constatine whom takes Priests with establishing him a "1 State Religion", loosely based on Jesus and linked to his Mother's interests.
In order to have the facts, if it is important to you, You must research the HISTORY, both of the Era and of the Religion.
This in no way is intended to discredit Jesus, it is to get at the Facts of what Jesus taught, how he lived, and to have *"the Truths"*
Well it goes back a good bit before Constantine, without Paul of Tarsus, his followers and their writings which created a split with Judaism in the 40s and 50s AD/CE Christianity in any form properly wouldn't have been around for Constantine to encounter in 312AD or so!
Correct.
This is why I love haderekh Nazarene Israel assembly on youtube
Constantine was 321 year's after yeshua
@@anthonycooper5248
Yes, your point?
The Catholic and Christain Religions of the Western World were established by him and his Priests.
I like how the story changes when their guy gets his head cut off. Oh, oh it's part of it. The suffering, guys. It's not that they were wrong or anything. Like a fat cat falling off of the fence and looking like it meant to do that. You and I know it didn't.
Life is suffering.
.... shit I was gonna sound all smart n stuff by mentioning to whom that quote belonged to...I think it was Sadartha or Buhda...oooo no Maddam something. I think lol I'll go look
@@IbleedINC Kinda my point. Life happened and then was appropriated to make an ordinary guy look cool with his head off.
@@erickeller162 Good observation. As I understand it, it's the idea not the guy. Kinda like musicians and actors today in a sense. You fall in love with the song but then gain a connection to James Hetfield because of it.... maybe...
@@IbleedINC to kill the first born pharos son Ride The Lightning
Fact: there are more than at least 10 similar stories of Jesus in the history of all religion and even before the time of Jesus. that makes u think JESUS just like the others were copied stories.
and noah's ark story as well
name them
It seems like the Jews don’t believe in Jesus it seems like they actually hate him.
The Jewish people acknowledge that Yeshua was a real human being. The Jewish people acknowledge that Yeshua was a great and exceptional teacher. The Jewish people do not believe or acknowledge Yeshua as a divinity - the Jewish Christians do - but not the main line orthodox Jewish people. The Gospel writers blamed the execution of Yeshua on the Jewish people and not on Rome because the Gospel writers wanted to prove to Rome that the Jewish people were not in rebellion against the Empire .. or trouble makers .. so the Gospel writers portrayed Pontius Pilate as a benevolent Governor when he was anything but that - shifted the blame to the Jewish populous so that Rome would get off their backs! Unfortunately, the choice of that has led to little over 2,000 years of anti-Semetism - but the Jewish people do not hate Yeshua now nor did they then. 😊
Could it be merely a prophecy written down?? Final fulfillment.
Nevermind. It doesnt match. Fact is well over 100 and much more prophecies were fulfilled by Yeshua. And abunch more are and will be fulfilled leading up to these end times. Time to give Yeshua as much of your faith and belief you can muster. Then pray! He is coming soon.
@@jodyshipley9120 Yes the fact the later writers on Jesus lined his actions up with the prophecy in the OT had no impact on that.
Yes they do but no matter what I believe I don't care what anybody says he is who he says he is
Inspite of the mannerisms of the lettering, it would be beneficial to get the actual stone and test the ink, or "paint" used. This would, in my humble opinion, be a more exact manner for dating the stone. Otherwise, we have nothing more than pure speculation. Much like the one sided history taught as absolute fact. Considering these "antiquities" are illegal to own, why would such a collector allow himself to be PUBLICLY identified?
In the Middle East, every engraved stone can be retraced to Abraham, Jesus, David, Salomon, Moses depending on the ''researcher''. Beautiful scenery, insight into the archeological industry... Good intellectual entertainment with a subtly spicy sauce of slightly religious bias. Hence, my subscription. The Jewish world is so very colorful..
5 of the most common names at the time
Will some one please pass me the salt & the catsup? I love a good brain tease.
I'm smelling an awful lot of " If" coming off this theory.
IF is dubious. The documentary is to sensationalize the "mystery" with questionable facts. In brief, the whole scientific documentary looks more like a propaganda if you watch it with a critical mind
Everyone of his videos are purposefully sacrilegious and he omits obvious facts to support his false narratives. All sorts of prophets predicted Christ's death. This is for stupid people who already have a their minds made up
I smell a lot too it's called bullshit
@@yapbt6579 sound bias
Did you not notice the wording? Its all theory.
Almost like the jesus story is a medley of old testament and other popular myths from the time
It is.
@Th3ories
There is no resurrection myth in Indian and Chinese culture (as far as I know).
The historiocity of Jesus as a person is actually fascinating. As a human person - historians can almost definitely confirm he existed, the religious parts are up to interpretation.
@@optimusprime5199 there is resurrection myth in Indian mythology
@@wasimalam305
Who's??
In the tapestry of life, God's presence is the thread that weaves through every moment. As we encounter challenges, let's remember that we are part of a divine plan. Walk confidently, for God is orchestrating a beautiful masterpiece. 🎨🙏
Your video is so great!
I've served all sincerely in public for years. I've gathered many supports. Please Jesus and Messiah protect my family!
Nothing nothing can change my mind about Jesus from what I know he is who he says he is no matter what anybody says nothing can change my mind , I believe.
I like your simple faith girlie...but there is hard evidence for the resurrection...that one can touch and feel...Doubting Thomases ...STUDY THE SHROUD OF TURIN...it will take a month to check the pros and cons but it is worthwhile...but do the positive first OTHERVISE the Algorithms will lead yu into more and more negativity...
Blind follower.
Blind following.
Some people may believe the sky is purple, that doesn’t make it true.
@@alekdaniels you condemn him as a blind follower because you yourself have been condemned to hell by many Christians. Yes I’m making assumptions but I’m speaking from personal experience. Stop condemning the condemners allow their actions to speak for themselves. Christianity does not lead the masses towards “Christ like” living. Quite the opposite. Allow them to figure it out for themselves. It’s better that way
Much respect, but still.. I have to say that either 1 year or a thousand... please don't steal my grandma's headstone just to study it's inscriptions.. AND please leave her body where it is... Archaeology is cool, yet I feel it's also disrespectful sometimes.... But then also, I myself PERSONALY wouldn't mind being studied a thousand or more years from now... hmmm. I guess you guys made me think, which is indeed priceless.
the fact is, we have no idea who commissioned this tablet... we have no idea who actually carved this tablet. we have no way of verifying exactly the date of when this tablet was carved. even if we do know who commissioned it or who carved it, it doesn't mean that what he carved or commissioned was the truth. in short... it's a nice piece of archeology, but we have no way to verify anything on it and therefore it cannot be used as a reliable source of information.
We have as equally viable evidence for Jesus as we do for this guy. And that sadly is the truth. Just because now we talk about Jesus a lot and not this guy doesn’t mean the evidence for either of them is more valid
@@tobiasdontmatter1868 Sorry Tobias, you are wrong. We have the Quran, which talks about Jesus, and not this "guy." We have far more evidence for Jesus than we do this "guy." If you examine the Quran and it's claims and the life of Prophet Muhammed PBUH with an open heard, you will come to the conclusion that the Quran is the word of God.
He says “it emerged from the Antiquities Market.” Would be more credible if the announcement occurred at the time of its actual discovery, that is, if there was a true unearthing or discovery. The idea is intriguing, though, that there are other accounts of a deity/human dying and then coming to life in three days.
Just look at the detail on that rock (31.23)
It’s like it was placed there.
The oldest known occurrence of the resurrection on the third day is from ancient Egypt. There the king, the pharaoh, was considered to be divine. His divinity was bestowed upon him through a secret divination ritual upon his crowning as pharaoh. The critical step was the ingestion of a drink that would put the pharaoh to be in a dead-like sleep from which he would awaken on the third day.
While in that coma the pharao was thought to be presented to the gods and to be approved by them: if he returned as expected, he had their blessing - if he didn't wake up he had not been approved.
Obviously, since the point of the ritual was to equip the people with their important divine leader, the pharao would usually wake up on the third day as proof of his divinity.
There are lots of prophets and messiahs most self proclaimed except one.
When he returns all knees will bow. Every tongue will proclaim THE King. Jesus Christ.
The original "Death and Resurrection in Three Days" comes from the Isis and Osiris story from Egypt.
Nope. It didn’t. Not the whole story. His is the only where you don’t work to get to God, you allow him to reach down and rescue you. Everyone else has you jumping through hoops, as does counterfeit Christianity, among which is Catholicism and Mormonism and others...if you have to earn it or achieve it, it isn’t the gospel at all.
although time here in this realm is cyclical & events do repeat
@@misskim2058 the No True Scotsman fallacy right there
There is no story of Osiris in which he is resurrected after 3 days. Isis does resurrect him but only on TH-cam will you find people saying it was 3 days. 3 days doesn’t exist in any of the numerous stories of Osiris…until TH-cam.
@@davidhiggins3012 I think the point is it repeats much of older stories and borrows from other god like claims, even if the exact details are different the main thrust is that the story has been heard and said before
Simca hello from Scotland thanks for your dedication and passion on delivering yet another factual fascinating documentary on the topic of choice thank you for sharing your passion with us and teaching us and sharing your knowledge to let us make up our own mind and conclusions x
What “facts?” He presented nothing but a tablet unverified and inauthentic, like your comment.
this documentary puts the icing on the cake it makes more sense than the BS Christians be talkin about, stop reading the bible and do your own research
wouldn't the writer maintain the writing style from the year that they had learned to write? this would mean that the tablet could be written with a writing style that was popular several decades prior to it's actual date.
Why? I write very differently from when I learned to write ... thankfully. But, also, we all composites of our experiences, so, we evolve .. even in writing style .. Read any good author such as Dickens and see the changes for yourself. I like the 'could be' that's more like it .. :-)
That's a fair question, but what's the answer? Would he or wouldn't he? Seems to be an open question better settled--or at least debated--by scholars.
When Assyrians conquered the middle east they found writings in canaan which was so.e thousands of years before this Simons time in fact the Canaaninites had conquered all re middle east across the Mediterranean into france because of their trades
All that happens, happened before and will happen again. This is because this creation goes in circles, everything rotates. This is also why stillness is the answer.
That’s what I’ve been trying tell everyone I’m the current messiah chosen one of this age! But no one is listening! 😎
agreed
Kali Yuga will be ended by Jesus
"It seems", tells you all you need to know.
Just like the Buybull
Exactly what i was gonna write
Attis @1225BC
Exactly , the expert said 100 years before or after Christ so just saying it seems before is only half the story.
Prince of princes also refers to lucifer. If they really knew they biblical history. Rather Hebrew or Christian!
There were many influencers and spiritual leaders in those days, John the Babtist being one of them - so it can be hard to deciphre the one truth - if there is one.
What this documentary show corroborates with what a book called "Jesus, Apocalyptic Prophet Of The New Millenium" says. This work, by Bart D. Ehrmann, basically says that the historical Jesus (different from the mythical one, from the gospels...) was an apocalyptic "prophet." The author shows many pieces of evidence, and a key evidence is linked to John Baptist as this documentary indicates.
I dont know what's true and what's not, but wasn't there already quite a few deity's that were resurrected in the past? I thought I remembered hearing about different area's/groups/religions that had their own versions of Jesus, thousands of years ago??
@Th3ories - Again, I dont pretend to know what happened one way or the other, but to interpret what you're saying, others predicted it, and in one case it actually happened? Well either way, it seems like most people over time believed in some form of resurrection from a religious or spiritual figure.
There were so many messiahs recorded by Romans from all over the empire... all of them mirror the story of Horus, Mithra and Dionysis.. interesting how many men, named Issa(india), Yeshua(israel), Jesu(latin heritages which all stem from Rome)...
Wonderful presentation.. thank you.. ❤
You tell'em
@@fckingangryblackwomen lol.. i dont think that was what i was trying.. maybe more like adding to, without screwing with these wonderful people who stretch our minds...
Ya know, psychologically, its possible, because im a descendant of SPQR love, i might have inadvertently been flexing a bit... so.. yeah, i stand corrected...
Gawd.. another breathtaking battle between me, myself and i...
Good day, hun...
~☯️
That’s all false you stated
Mithra cannot be Jesus counterpart because he is Demiurge, a Gnostic creator of humans and the world
@@MrMagic-nw2tl Jesus' true name is Issa. Use Google translate and see how many languages use esus, esa, Isa, etc. Not to mention his Greek name was Iesus. He is based on a sun Gods primarily. Apollo, Mithra, Sol, etc. Jesus is existent in every religion on earth the Catholic knew this and invented "Jesus" when really the true Jesus would be closer to Hercules, Krishna, Horus, Apollo, etc.
the painted stones really reminded me of what tibetan buddhist do, painting on stones all arround different areas. intresting
Israel Knohl formerly read the inscription as a command from the angel Gabriel "to rise from the dead within three days".
"Knohl has eventually abandoned this reading, in favor of Ronald Hendel's reading (followed by Qimron & Yuditsky): "By three days the sign".
This is amazing information!
Thank you for sharing your information!
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LoL. This would not shake my faith at all. In fact the Old Testament has a lot of words hinting to the coming of Jesus. This has a lot of we guess as they try for a hot discovery. Wow just by looking at the stone they knew it was real... Throughout history there have been many fake artifacts deemed real. Even if this was real it does not challenge the story or life of Jesus. Nice Try. I always find that this archeologist has a mission to find Jesus a fable. His life work is an ax to grind pointing at Jesus. Hardly a credible source without an agenda.
time-traveling Messiah!
Time is the fourth dimension the other three being length, breadth and height/depth.
We are in a space time continuum and can know physically only these four in OUR PHYSICAL BODY.
IF we postulate other dimensions as in THE STRINGS THEORY we can understand the devil as well as God...
THE DEVIL IS IN THE DATA...
Yes but what about all the accounts of Jesus actively appearing here and there, after he rose until His ascension? Do the others before Jesus have any accounts of them interacting with their followers?
I'm guessing that the owner of the stone won't allow it to be inspected due to the possibility of it being exposed as fake.
How do we know the stone was not created in 2008? There is great motivation to fake it, and it seem like the knowledge to do it is widespread.
Carbon dating
Peace be upon you.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
5 And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve:
6 After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep.
7 After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles.
8 And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time.
9 For I am the least of the apostles, that am not meet to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.
10 But by the grace of God I am what I am: and his grace which was bestowed upon me was not in vain; but I laboured more abundantly than they all: yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me.
11 Therefore whether it were I or they, so we preach, and so ye believed.
12 Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?
13 But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:
14 And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.
15 Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.
16 For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised:
17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.
18 Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished.
19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.
20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.1 Corinthians 15:3-20
Angels are messengers, not ressurectors. It is God who gives life and restores life. Not Angel's thank you. This us a fabrication that no one needs to defend because God himself will reveal through Jesus.
Lol
You do know there are diffrent type of Angel's Lol there is even a Angel of life and death so shush
ha ha, no he wont
Uhh, in revelation there are angels that stop the winds???
All sides of each issue should be brought out, without censorship. What does he think about the Shroud of Turin??
This is video is thought provoking but like everyone else in here I would like to see the stone examined.
This video was made 11 months ago almost a year I wonder if they ended up verifying or debunking anything.
Those that don't believe in a Messiah want him discredited but those that believe with strong faith will continue to believe
@@timothysdog6130 who said I didn't believe in the messiah this is archeology find and I think it's important to do more additional researching and additional testing that is available to us in the 21st century there is nothing wrong with verifying a find. Verifying a find has nothing do with one's faith that is personal thing between god and that person's
@@timothysdog6130 I don’t believe in the messiah. And I don’t want him discredited. A lot of assumptions being made by a person who’s believed everything they’ve been told since their birth without actually thinking for themself.
Ancient carvings and other artifacts sitting in a bathroom...smh...lol...I'd have those artifacts in a museum
@@appliedcommonsense4735 lolololololololol!!!!
I would want to be able to show them off. Unfortunately the way this guy probably procured them he would have to keep them to himself. That's no fun at all.
I wonder if they use 2000 year old feicus as evidence
Wait until you find out just how many antiquities are sitting in a rich dude' bathroom, used as a mirror frame. As it stands, museums have SO MUCH sh!t in storage, it's impossible for them to actually display 1% of the 'approved' pieces. This would get a museum shut down if it were displayed.
Religious people are so afraid of being proven wrong. I feel sorry for them. Living in a bubble is a very hard thing.
So just curious here, what makes this “finding” so legitimate for you? 🤔
@@NadaVerse if i follow this logic of legitimacy than dead sea scrolls are also not legitimate. Therefore, the Bible is not legitimate. Even the Bible is a collection of such findings. How do you differentiate between scrolls/tablets that ended in canon Bible vs scrolls/tablets that didn’t?
@@NadaVerse The fact that it speaks of a Messiah who died and rose 3 days after, BEFORE Jesus' time. A funny coincidence that later Jesus told the same story, isn't it?
@Larry Cavalli Jews counted days differently than we do now. And I quote from Bible.org, "To us, three days and three nights generally means 72 hours, but we must understand the Bible historically and culturally. For the Jewish mind, this could mean any part of the first day, all of the second day, and any part of the third day."
Actually I'm not afraid of being proven wrong. And I, contrary to your popular belief, actually look at and keep up with scientific discoveries, and it is because of science and logic that I so strongly believe in the Bible. Then again, being grounded in science is technically not faith, but I digress. I have, over the course of my life as a college student have struggled with my faith and have asked many times, "Why do I believe this? This just seems too weird and just seems to go against what the scientific community would say." Then I would dig deeper and see videos and read articles from atheists and Christian apologists, all very brilliant and highly respected people (and by highly respected I mean people with PHD's, experts in their fields, Steven Hawking and the like) and I would compare what they have to say against each other. In addition, in high school, I took an advanced placement English Language class which discussed how to make effective arguments and pick out fallacies in certain statements. This is what leads me to have different views from my peers, like why I personally believe that homosexuality is not a sin. This is not the view of my denomination, but I will still stand by it, as I view the arguments for it to be valid criticisms of a traditional belief that the church has had, while still being rooted in Scripture. There are many shades of Christians, ranging from the (frustratingly) stubborn and unshifting folk who praise Trump and believe every word he says, no matter how ridiculous or illogical it may be, to people on the left who interpret and believe the words of the Bible differently. I am more moderate with left leaning tendencies. I have several (close) friends who are gay and nonbinary (one being a gay pagan with very different beliefs concerning demons) and I also have friends who (unfortunately) are hardcore Trump supporters, so I have learned to take in both sides, see the shades of truth in each view, and meld them together so both people can understand the whole situation.
Could Simon Magus have related his christ to Simon of Perea?
Could the NT writers have related their Jesus character to Simon of Perea?
While everyone is looking over there...I'm looking right here in Amuruca and the Amarukhans...the mummies in the grand canyon, Toltecs, Empress Califa, Joshua, The Olmecs, the true "nile" Mississippi River... the no ice cap of Antarctic Circle on maps in the 1500s
A man of research i am familiar with these ideas
But can you elaborate on the Joshua part...
At 3:25 into show I think it could be another group back in history proclaiming the coming of the Savior. The One and Only we have.
3:25 is 3:7 I'm your messiah John 3:16 is also 37 37 37 37 3773 look my profile and look these numbers up
Peace be upon you.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
5 And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve:
6 After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep.
7 After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles.
8 And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time.
9 For I am the least of the apostles, that am not meet to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.
10 But by the grace of God I am what I am: and his grace which was bestowed upon me was not in vain; but I laboured more abundantly than they all: yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me.
11 Therefore whether it were I or they, so we preach, and so ye believed.
12 Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?
13 But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:
14 And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.
15 Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.
16 For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised:
17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.
18 Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished.
19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.
20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.1 Corinthians 15:3-20
Having seen the Jeselsohn Stone while on exhibit at the Houston Museum of Natural Science in 2010, I perceived it as an authentic 1st Century B.C. artifact, though I am not an expert. I also noticed that the Sacred Tetragrammaton (YHWH) appeared numerous times throughout the text. The english translation of line 80 "in three days, live" within it's context reminded me of a more ancient Hebrew prophecy found in the Book of Hosea, circa 720 B.C. which reads, "After two days will he revive us; in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight." According to the Gospel of Luke, Gabriel appears to Mary, the mother of Jesus, in chapter one, and may also be one of two angelic messengers present at the tomb of Christ in chapter 24.
We will never put the Puzzle together with out seeing the Whole Picture first. Studying and understanding the knowledge of Incarnation/Resurrection will Help
Could it be the tablet is a prophetic writing? After all, JC himself referred to Jonah's storynas an allegory to his on upcoming death and resurrection.
Yes I believe so...
It relates to astrotheology. If you do enough research, you will see how it all relates, and points to the truth. To understand the most high, you must understand yourselfFor example, Lucifer is a Roman name, added to the bible by constantine at nicea. It is in reference to Venus around spring time. It is the morning star that announces the arrival of the sun and competes with it to be the most high, but can't take the throne because of it's trajectory and sinks below the horizon, or "falls from heaven." This is also John the baptist, for he announces the arrival of the son, someone greater than he. If jesus is the right hand, then john the baptist is the left hand, which makes him samael, the baphomet. But in abrahamic religions, the left hand is muhammad, whose day is friday, who is frigg or lucifer. It's even structured in our week. Friday to the left of saturday, when the hebrews take their sabbath. When does Islam take their sabbath? Friday. Lucifers day. Venus day. Friggs day. The day of john the baptist, the baphomet, mahomet. This also corresponds to aquarius. All this explained in Matthew chapter 3
Has this stone been dated and verified as being as old as the writing style suggests?
Since the stone itself could be millions of years old, it’s not used. The only way to tell is to date the ink and analyze the composition to determine if it’s authentic for the time period.
You cannot carbon date stone - it's not organic, not carbon based.
Okay the stone itself could be many millions of years old but surely there are ways to date the writing besides analysing the writing style? Otherwise people all over the place could learn ancient writing and language, write all sorts of information on stones, especially carving into the stone with an engraving tool, burying them somewhere, then “discovering” these ancient texts.
As mentioned above, this stone was written on with ink. Are there other examples of stones with text on them written in ink? I can think of the ancient Egyptians writing & painting on stone walls. Surely the paint used there could be dated.
@@kdegraa I have done a quick search on the internet, couldn't find a stone carving with ink. That's what I hate about grave robbers. They are actually selling and buying artifacts in the black market with no way to verify its authenticity because the forensic evidence has been destroyed or contaminated. If they could have done a proper archeological dig, maybe they could have found pottery or other artifacts on the site that could help date the stone carving.
Well if Typology changes over the years...this 'might' also mean that words, phrases and meaning….etc, have changed over time.
This is one of the reasons I don't always believe what was written ages ago.
This goes through the hands of men/women and just for that reason nothing can be trusted at 100%.
Very good documentary though. if anyone has the time...Check the book;The Jesus Mysteries..it also talks about a preceding crucifixion.
Take Care All.
Thank you. I will go check it out.
"we have a photocopy and could just read that. But, hey, let's spend some studio money on getting a replica made, and read THAT, instead."
It is Apollo of Tiana ,also known as Apollonius Tyaneaus,who was actually born much before Jesus. His life was copied word to word and a fictitious character called Jesus was just planted in the story.
If you read the ‘Messages from Jesus and the Celestials’ with an open mind, you can easily discern the truth.
Astrology new age nonsense.. nice try.
Maybe we should rethink the origins of all Messiahs.
What if their divinity all came from the same place?
What if God didn't just send one "son".
Think about it. How lost and disconnected from God we were, and still are.
What if God has sent more than one Messiah, for more than one culture/civilization?
Anything is possible in this era of great new knowledge. Good food for thoughts.
That is exactly what muslims believe. Except that Jesus too was also a prophet from God, and there have been more than 100,000 prophets over the ages. All civilizations, all people of all continents, throughout the ages have been told the same message. But all prophets got treated the same by the establishment of their respective eras.
@@thacrypt223 Islam didn't even exist when Jesus was alive. You're practically a juvenile religion. 🙄🙄
@@Go-go-super-guru of course it did. It is the same religion, one God. All monotheistic religions have the same origins. We believe the Bible is also from God.
@@Go-go-super-guru Islam as it is today did not exist yes.
far far away back in time, Ezekiel 37 prophesied that one day the Lord will resurrect the people from graves in three days, so I guess this is not something new. The stone only described a messianic hope of the Jews of 1st century AD.
Love the rationalizing. He he he.
Like they may try to do with woolly mammoths here lately??
Im buying a snow foam cannon and listening to this while washing my car.