How about less arguing about who does what or when and just enjoy the fact that both Allan and Bill are badass and tasteful artists. I for one love this stuff.
This guy has a great taste for melodical themes. well balanced, dynamic and beatiful. Nearly all of his themes in those 3 recordings from the 80s are creative and fresh.
Despite what others may say about the Holdsworth copycat thing. I i thing Bill is still different and interesting. Some people judge him by listening to just a couple of songs. You should listen to at least the three albuns he released in the 80s. "Step it", "Double Up" and "Assembler". If you are coming from other style of music you will notice that he is more melodical and accessible composition wise and his songs are more well balanced than Holdsworth's which are over top in many ocasions. I love Holdsworth, really, but Bill has a place in my record collection and i consider him one of the top Creative Fusion guitarists of all time.
Allan was a master innovator for sure---my personal opinion is that Bill stating his love for blues and jazz---gives him that soulful approach as opposed to Allan's sometimes dissonant approach
I think Connors is a guitarist who likes to learn different techniques and once explored, moves on to a different style. I think he found Allan's approach interesting and set about absorbing his methods. He got very close to Allan but ultimately you can only go so far. Connors' playing is now completely different.
I'm not running him down at all. I like bills playing regardless of era, but everyone knows he copped the allan thing in the 80s, even allan said so. Also Bill was not doing fusion before allan. they both were out there in the late 60s early 70s before either got much name recognition. The real first fusion guitarists are Larry Coryell and John McLaughlin. I like some larry but not john. And progressive jazz fusion is bills music. if you are here defending bill you like the style progjazzfusion
And Holdsworth copped his entire style/schtick from John Coltrane. As for the differences between Bill and Allan, that's easy. Bill's a better guitarist. Sure he might've played those legato licks in the 80's after hearing Holdsworth (a point which I'm not ready to concede as a bonafide fact), but more to the point, he tried it, he mastered it, he moved on - he's no one trick pony. He's also more musical, in the most basic sense of what that is.
excuse me i uploud the video and i don t remember well the line up band, and tom kennedy was 26 year old.. lol.. CCU rocks! thanks for tell me stating the obvious ° GRACIAS ! desde tlaquepaqui!!
you must not have heard of allan holdsworth then, as bills "speed licks" are his attempt at the time to assimilate the holdsworth style, revered by many, often copied, for good or bad.
How about less arguing about who does what or when and just enjoy the fact that both Allan and Bill are badass and tasteful artists. I for one love this stuff.
Thank you John. It's a shame that needed to be said...but thank you.
I think
so.
This guy has a killer tone and his chordal work is amazing.
The drummer on this record is not Dave Weckl, is Kim Plainfield.
My favorite guitarist ever.
No. 1 in my book
Ditto Kevin!
This guy has a great taste for melodical themes. well balanced, dynamic and beatiful. Nearly all of his themes in those 3 recordings from the 80s are creative and fresh.
Im so glad i can appreciate both Bill Connors and Allan Holdsworth as totally top quality separate musicians!
Despite what others may say about the Holdsworth copycat thing. I i thing Bill is still different and interesting.
Some people judge him by listening to just a couple of songs.
You should listen to at least the three albuns he released in the 80s. "Step it", "Double Up" and "Assembler".
If you are coming from other style of music you will notice that he is more melodical and accessible composition wise and
his songs are more well balanced than Holdsworth's which are over top in many ocasions. I love Holdsworth, really, but Bill has a place in my record collection and i consider him one of the top Creative Fusion guitarists of all time.
agree with you totally...unique guy who was using a "technique" to express himself
Great drumming
It's actually Kim Plainfield, not Dave Weckl as the description says
great tune like the different rhythm parts 👍
Not Dave Weckl, he was on the previous album Step It. He was replaced with Kim Plainfield for this album and Assembler.
cool playing and tone of guitar
Allan was a master innovator for sure---my personal opinion is that Bill stating his love for blues and jazz---gives him that soulful approach as opposed to Allan's sometimes dissonant approach
Cool song here I noticed in the beginning there's a Latin flavor to the rythm for a moment
I believe the drummer in this one was Kim Plainfield
Your right brotha amazing drummer
I think Connors is a guitarist who likes to learn different techniques and once explored, moves on to a different style. I think he found Allan's approach interesting and set about absorbing his methods. He got very close to Allan but ultimately you can only go so far. Connors' playing is now completely different.
Weckl had already left for the CC Elektric Band.
I'm not running him down at all. I like bills playing regardless of era, but everyone knows he copped the allan thing in the 80s, even allan said so. Also Bill was not doing fusion before allan. they both were out there in the late 60s early 70s before either got much name recognition. The real first fusion guitarists are Larry Coryell and John McLaughlin. I like some larry but not john. And progressive jazz fusion is bills music. if you are here defending bill you like the style progjazzfusion
And Holdsworth copped his entire style/schtick from John Coltrane. As for the differences between Bill and Allan, that's easy. Bill's a better guitarist. Sure he might've played those legato licks in the 80's after hearing Holdsworth (a point which I'm not ready to concede as a bonafide fact), but more to the point, he tried it, he mastered it, he moved on - he's no one trick pony. He's also more musical, in the most basic sense of what that is.
Plainfield, not Weckl on drums.
excuse me i uploud the video and i don t remember well the line up band, and tom kennedy was 26 year old.. lol.. CCU rocks! thanks for tell me stating the obvious ° GRACIAS ! desde tlaquepaqui!!
el bateria es Kim Plainfield en mi opinion..
dude CCU rocks.
its a free internet...we can both comment on whatever we want
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26 años
you must not have heard of allan holdsworth then, as bills "speed licks" are his attempt at the time to assimilate the holdsworth style, revered by many, often copied, for good or bad.