Great music! Strong kinship with Scriabin, Richard Strauss, Korngold, from a distance Debussy shines over, and yet a world of its own. Apart from the remarkable quality of the orchestra - the recording itself is astonishing too! Thank you!
Genial! Ich verstehe absolut nicht, warum Joseph Marx so ein Schattendasein in den Konzertsälen führt. Die Herbstsymphonie ist ein Klangrausch erster Güte. Spätromantik auf die Spitze getrieben!
I have never heard a work by Joseph Marx on any classical music radio station, only on the TV broadcast Music Choice. What a shame more people can't enjoy his magnificent achievements. Thank you for this posting.
yeah, i think that is the stigma of local composers, in time they are completely forgotten. only we fans can try and try that more classical fans than bvefore know about a genius like joseph marx!
Phenomenal music. A Giant. WOW ! OMG! HOLY Shit ! I Wallow in this Symphony! That is the appropriate thing to do. Don't just listen. Live in it. Wallow in every note,phrase, cadence. A larger than life Symphony.
Merci de faire partager cette musique merveilleuse, injustement méconnue. A la première écoute, j'ai cru entendre une parenté réelle entre Joseph Marx et Erich Wolfgang Korngold, ainsi qu'avec Franz Schreker, dans l'orchestration brillante, le lyrisme flamboyant des thèmes, une musique finalement très "cinématographique", et ce n'est pas un défaut pour moi, lorsque l'on écoute les partitions des compositeurs européens ayant apporté leur savoir à Hollywood : Korngold lui-même, Max Steiner, Victor Young, Miklos Rosza, et bien d'autres.
En effet. Le début évoque tout à fait celui de Die Gezeichneten. Plus loin, on se croirait dans le Concerto de Korngold. Et à d'autres endroits, plutôt dans Daphnis et Chloé, dans les Images de Debussy... Belle découverte quoi qu'il en soit!
very hard piece to pull off given the exceptionally complex polyphony and voice leading - but this sensitive performance really does the job. Far and away the best performance. It really convinces as a whole whereas others, I'm afraid, give magic moments only. I do wish this were available in high quality sound. The piece really does deserve a proper recording by Swierczewski. That's not being ungrateful, nachtstrom - on the contrary, I am VERY grateful for this posting indeed! From reading the score some time ago I had been convinced by it and longed to hear it; but neither the one live performance I've heard nor the Botstein recording succeeded in the extreme demands of this piece. They don't maintain its delight in excess while - crucially - revealing its very strong thematic control that only seems otherwise through ingeniously intricate elaboration, or its fundamentally traditional romantic-period structure. Both of these essential elements Swierczewski succeeds in bringing out here. Bravi tutti! - including nachtstrom for allowing us to hear this.
thank you so much for your kind words. i also think that this is the only performance that does this monster justice :) it is really a pain that since years no one seems interested to do a proper recording! maybe it is too expensive, given the amount of players involved? oh how i wish marx was more known to classic music geeks...
@@SpaghettiToaster yes thankfully there is a proper recording now! i thought about taking this performance offline but in the other hand, mayxbe someone comes here by chance and likes it.....
@@nachtstrom It's the same performance, just a higher quality audio file. All other performances of this piece are, to this day, unfortunately disappointing.
Or...Balance the following equation....Daphnis and Chloe + La Mer on the one side .on the other Side An Alpine Symphony+ Porm of Ecstasy + Mahler 9th = Incredibly Sublime Symphony .
This is the kind of music that belongs on the radio station! Throw out Beethoven, Mozart and Chopin and let's have more of the unknown composers like Marx, Zemlinsky and Bax! This is why I don't go to the symphony anymore. -I am sick of the warhorse 100....
Great music! Strong kinship with Scriabin, Richard Strauss, Korngold, from a distance Debussy shines over, and yet a world of its own. Apart from the remarkable quality of the orchestra - the recording itself is astonishing too! Thank you!
Genial! Ich verstehe absolut nicht, warum Joseph Marx so ein Schattendasein in den Konzertsälen führt. Die Herbstsymphonie ist ein Klangrausch erster Güte. Spätromantik auf die Spitze getrieben!
I fell in love with this gigantic work. Love the first and the thrid movement. Not esay to understand due to the complex harmony by Joseph Marx !!
I have never heard a work by Joseph Marx on any classical music radio station, only on the TV broadcast Music Choice. What a shame more people can't enjoy his magnificent achievements. Thank you for this posting.
yeah, i think that is the stigma of local composers, in time they are completely forgotten. only we fans can try and try that more classical fans than bvefore know about a genius like joseph marx!
just discover this fantastic symphonie on french radio France musique today !!!! the 3rd mouvement pfff
Phenomenal music. A Giant. WOW ! OMG! HOLY Shit ! I Wallow in this Symphony! That is the appropriate thing to do. Don't just listen. Live in it. Wallow in every note,phrase, cadence. A larger than life Symphony.
Merci de faire partager cette musique merveilleuse, injustement méconnue. A la première écoute, j'ai cru entendre une parenté réelle entre Joseph Marx et Erich Wolfgang Korngold, ainsi qu'avec Franz Schreker, dans l'orchestration brillante, le lyrisme flamboyant des thèmes, une musique finalement très "cinématographique", et ce n'est pas un défaut pour moi, lorsque l'on écoute les partitions des compositeurs européens ayant apporté leur savoir à Hollywood : Korngold lui-même, Max Steiner, Victor Young, Miklos Rosza, et bien d'autres.
En effet. Le début évoque tout à fait celui de Die Gezeichneten. Plus loin, on se croirait dans le Concerto de Korngold. Et à d'autres endroits, plutôt dans Daphnis et Chloé, dans les Images de Debussy... Belle découverte quoi qu'il en soit!
No less then magic this gigantic piece!
Wonderful!
I feel very honored, thank you.
Timestamps added! thank you, roger martin!!!
Information for timestamps (my first hearing): Eine Herbstgesang 0:00; Tanz der Mittagsgeister 9:25; Herbstgedanken 24:08; Ein Herbstpoem 43:26
Roger Martin, thank you so much!!!
Great!
very hard piece to pull off given the exceptionally complex polyphony and voice leading - but this sensitive performance really does the job. Far and away the best performance. It really convinces as a whole whereas others, I'm afraid, give magic moments only. I do wish this were available in high quality sound. The piece really does deserve a proper recording by Swierczewski. That's not being ungrateful, nachtstrom - on the contrary, I am VERY grateful for this posting indeed! From reading the score some time ago I had been convinced by it and longed to hear it; but neither the one live performance I've heard nor the Botstein recording succeeded in the extreme demands of this piece. They don't maintain its delight in excess while - crucially - revealing its very strong thematic control that only seems otherwise through ingeniously intricate elaboration, or its fundamentally traditional romantic-period structure. Both of these essential elements Swierczewski succeeds in bringing out here.
Bravi tutti! - including nachtstrom for allowing us to hear this.
thank you so much for your kind words. i also think that this is the only performance that does this monster justice :) it is really a pain that since years no one seems interested to do a proper recording! maybe it is too expensive, given the amount of players involved? oh how i wish marx was more known to classic music geeks...
If you're interested in a CD-quality recording of this performance: drive.google.com/file/d/1hlXFvjl2Zf7BBZGcyxbtMdL-zMWYukaG/view?usp=sharing
@@SpaghettiToaster yes thankfully there is a proper recording now! i thought about taking this performance offline but in the other hand, mayxbe someone comes here by chance and likes it.....
Thank you for this @@SpaghettiToaster !
@@nachtstrom It's the same performance, just a higher quality audio file. All other performances of this piece are, to this day, unfortunately disappointing.
The key is B minor.
Or...Balance the following equation....Daphnis and Chloe + La Mer on the one side .on the other Side An Alpine Symphony+ Porm of Ecstasy + Mahler 9th = Incredibly Sublime Symphony .
This is the kind of music that belongs on the radio station! Throw out Beethoven, Mozart and Chopin and let's have more of the unknown composers like Marx, Zemlinsky and Bax! This is why I don't go to the symphony anymore. -I am sick of the warhorse 100....