@@JoelK1991 We dont have many corintian helmets either, doesn't mean hoplites weren't wearing them, visual sources always depict "vikings" having helmets
@@joaovitorfarinabraga690 That classic hairstile with the buzzed temples was actially very common among Lombards in the 7th century or so, norse men are reported to keep their hair long
Shad, I have a history degree with a focus on Europe 400-1200 CE. Primarily my degree focused on Eastern Europe but my passion was England during that time period, being invaded by Saxons, Norse and Normans it was endlessly fascinating and if it were not for a dearth of classes in the region and time period I would have focused there. None the less I have done extensive research on my own. I have a few critiques for you as I know your knowledge base really picks up after the height Viking Era post Norman conquest. I disagree and agree with you on a lot of points here but these three things stood out to me. First, the Norse didn't have great lands for farming. You're right, it was a warmer time but the soil is/was of poor quality which resulted in low yields very close to 1:1 or 1:2 where England was about 1:3 even with the poor technology of the time. So farming and getting arable land was a primary motivation for going Viking. Wealth was a top priority for others since raiding Keivan Rus and other regions to the south and east just wasn't as profitable as it was previously. The second is just how disappointed I am with you not instantly recognizing Odin. "The stranger" or appearing in a hood is perhaps the most common way he would appear in stories to mortals. Then he turns into a raven which not only was an analog for Odin himself, but then it flew towards the enemy which in the pagan religion was often seen as a great omen of favor. That was actually something this trailer got really right about the mythology. I guess I just thought you would have caught that. Finally, on the leather. You're 100% right, leather armor if ever used would have been hardened through boiling and all evidence points to it being rare. However, leather clothes were not terribly uncommon. I do myself give a little benefit of doubt that it is not meant to depict armor but rather is meant to simply be clothing to help keep them dry, something leather does much better than wool or flax cloth. Considering these were a sea faring people keeping dry certainly would have been a consideration. History is not clear on the fur trim and though there was likely too much of it depicted here the Vikings did like to wear dead animals to intimidate just like the Saxons liked to put dead animals on sticks (sort of like banners) for intimidation purposes. As a side note, mail (for both sides) and helmets (for the Vikings) was somewhat uncommon early on in this era just due to how hard it was to produce though over time that certainly changed. It was certainly preferred, but few vikings had access. Since the English king being represented was Alfred of Wessex (the wax seal is clearly a copy of the coinage he minted in his likeness) that would put this in the early to middle of Danelaw/Viking invasions between 870 and 900 CE. The Anglo-Saxon armor was all wrong which you did spot perfectly, the axes were too broad and too big and the lack of shield walls did hurt. I don't want to go on too long, you did get a lot right, but again, your knowledge from watching you for a long time seems to focus on things after 1000 CE or before 400 CE. Not many really know this era well.
From one Medieval historian to another, thank you for this. That is one thing a lot of commentary misses is especially that even though leather might not be meant/able to deflect blows from an axe, even thin leather is water resistant, wind proof, and could slow down a blade/arrow before it reaches the chainmail beneath. Meanwhile, while iron production to the degree needed to produce massive amounts of chainmail did exist, leather off of game animals was free if you could kill it. Hail to the Vikings, the creators of carbon steel and people that boasted a 90% literacy rate.
@@patrickadams7274 Wait. Were they really 90% literate? Are you referring to the runes? And about which time period are we talking about? Are there any sources on that? I don't mean to be rude, I'm just genuinely interested in this.
@@enlightenedterrestrial During my grad degree, one of my professors was going over Scandinavian culture between the 8th-10th century. The matter of their alphabet (he used the Futhark as his prime example) came up and then he used a colleague's research for his evidence. It seems in almost every settlement that we typically associate with Vikings, there was a hole dug near each village. The hole was basically their landfill which they would toss any object they regarded as trash. Inside they found hundreds of small slabs of bark with runes carved in them. The words? Shopping lists for their raids (Hagar was right in this case), children practicing writing their names or drawing maps, and orders for weapons and ship parts. The sheer proliferation of slabs and an examination by a paleographer said that they had nearly a 90% (close to 96% in some villages) representation of literacy among the population. This was the single biggest example of "one man's trash is another man's treasure" I had ever heard.
probable reason why the army leader was wearing only "crappy leather" armor: if he is important to the overall story, he will have plot armor, so he can wear stuff just to make him look good. ;-D
Game: *depicts Odin very clearly on the battlefield as a sign to the main character, hammers it home with the Ravens* Shad: Hey look it's merlin! Game: Odin is with us! Shad: Don't think so mate... lol.
@@aaronarcher248 solid snake voice: King Harold, I'm trying to eliminate the Vikings, but I'm *dummy* *thicc* and the clap of my scales keeps alerting Harald Hardrada
@Snakeye Plissken to be fair fur is shown on the outside very often in Fantasy. with mages I could see them simply using pyromancy (fire magic) to stay warm, but Ulfric, the true high king of Skyrim, and his officers are not mages. granted Nords have resistance to cold.
@@sirsmokesalot2939 badass=tough, strong, powerful. when I said ""I killed this creature, I am badass"" I meant in appearance they look like they are badass, when in actuality the fur wouldn't help at all.
38:38 That wasn't the armor working, That's not posible, everyone knows armor doesn't work and it's all about fashion. What happened there is historically known as "abs of steel" (?
i actually think there is a use for leather armor (in fantasy only): leather does not catch fire easily. gambeson is really useful against blades and arrows, but it has a higher chance of catching on fire. im just an amateur, so im probably wrong...
@@magistermagus1211 Oh leather was definitely used, but not as much nor in the manner that it is often depicted. Not much is known about its advantages or disadvantages, the fire thing sounds interesting however. Soaked hide was known to be used as a flame retardant on seige equipment.
Shad is wrong , leather armor was abundant in the period . Not the best for sure . Most people hunted , leather was abundant. Leather also rots , so there would be less left behind as time passed . It has to be maintained .
@@mefit1 Yes but imagine an army of thousands of soldiers all clad in leather. That's a lot of animals that need to be hunted and killed and then skinned and then that skin needs to go through an involved process that requires time and talent, and we aren't even at the point where it's being made into armour yet. Why do all that with more limited resources when you could just use textiles that are just about as effective and much easier to mass produce and has a more sustainable source? Sure, it might have been more common than Shad thinks (I personally believe it was) but the amount of effort to produce it compared to others would probably make it less popular.
Nobody: Ubisoft Vikings: *Wears leather armour* Shad: Me no like leather. Me angry. Ubisoft: *Adds kite shields* Shad: Ooo, Me like kite shield. Me happy now.
@Lord Azreal Lais jugo and luna? you stupid af dawg. gtfo if you dont like the game, dont like it. dont play it. easy as that, that's been AC for as long as I can remember
@Lord Azreal Lais bro, the whole ridiculous Isu thing was the whole point of the Assassins Creed, not the historical event itself. Heck even the first 3 games revolve around Abstergo and the Isu, Desmond was just using the Animus to play his ancestor's memories.
Lord Azreal Lais real historic? Sorry but they are not actually, they were just based on historical events, even the historical events in this game are twisted and made into a fictional story so that it can fit into the whole First Civilization idea. Don't tell me you really believe that Hashinshin's (Real life Arabic assassins in which Altair's Levintine assassins were based upon) have hidden blades and do leap of faith on tallest buildings? There are no historical evidence of hidden blades, let alone white robe uniform for assassins. Lol
33:09 The soldier literally has his sword on the viking's neck, already having a win, but for some reason he lets go ofnthe viking from shock when Eivor says "Odin is with us". Like what????
Ok this is nice, but when he said godless barbarians, king alfred was wrong the trailer did that on purpose, the king was depicting them wrong based on personal hate which is accurate for the time period Saxons didn't exactly like pagans, Christians in general. Also I should note that I only agree with some of what was said in the video, because not everything you said in here was correct shad.
To think that was obvious. The trailer is narrated by the King saying things that are immediately contradicted by what's shown. "a land they will never defend, never love" and yet there they are, being human.
Shad trying to figure out what time period it is: King stamps a declaration of war that says "Alfred" in huge letters. Shad: "Is that servant wearing LEATHER?"
@@jaguar_8344 There was literally only one Alfred - Alfred the Great. That's why he's commonly called just "king Alfred". He did come to power following Æthelwulf, Æthelbald, Æthelberht and Æthelred, so this might be the row you're referring to?
32:27 Actually, Shad, some tales of Odin describe him as appearing to mortals as a hooded man, so yeah, that guy's interpretation isn't actually bad. (well, except merely seeing Odin doesn't mean he's on your side, he could just as easily be wishing you die on this battle quicker so you are added to his army in Valhalla)
Odin wouldn't wish people to die quicker, but he would walk through the field of battle to pick out the bodies of the bravest warriors for the Valkyries to carry off to Valhalla, so he could have been doing just that. Also, one possible interpretation of seeing Odin on the battlefield could be as a premonition of your own impending death, which would be closer to what you are saying; however Odin transforms into a raven, and then flies towards the Saxon lines which would likely be interpreted as an omen of victory over the Saxon's.
@@spamfilter32 One problem though. Since when did Odin start to transform into ravens :P Might be the mushrooms the main guy most likely ate before going to war...
spamfilter32 odin transforms into raven? Isn’t that just huginn and muninn. And to my knowledge, odin have servant (Valkyries) who collects the souls so why he himself walking around in battlefield looting souls?
@@DavidVenters No ads. Is likely gonna get demonetized because of gore and other content. The length was actually needed to explore the points at least adequately, and he was also *holding back* . He could have expanded FAR more on various points, like leather, mail armour, swords, axes, everything pretty much.
@@1IGG True, but I doubt that's guaranteed for much protection. Style and comfort are arguably more important to the person in that context, whereas protection is of increased importance even for wear-around type armor. Also, skidding down asphalt is a very different beast to taking a hit from any kind of handheld weapon. Again, not saying you're incorrect, just some more points.
@@cyrilgigee4630 leather can also still be hardened alot more and alot thicker than the soft thinner leather you normally see used in clothing though. The point is that having a thick hardened leather covering would still provide more protection than nothing at all.
@@Sciguy95 The problem is that most leather came from cows (In Europe) and needing to kill an animal that can offer you milk and breed more cows just for it's leather would be waaay too expensive. Gambeson by itself is far more easier to produce and get the same amount of protection as it.
@@n0rdlys_40 which has nothing to do with what I said. We were talking about the possible protection it could offer, not how popular it would actually be.
Vikings have been to America. These must be American longboats, because American vehichles always explode and catch on fire really quickly in movies and video games
@@xcritic9671 Yeah a lot of people have heard of the so called Tommy Cooker. But Ireally just meant the TV/movie trope. It's pretty unlikely to make a car explode by shooting at it yet in most action movies: BOOM fireworks (while not accurate it certainly is more entertaining)
@@Vampirspiegelei Well, liquid gas tanks are treated as bombs strapped to the undercarriage, but ironically getting shot through the radiator doesn't ever cause the engines to blow.
@@l_Egoist_l Alfred the Great, the man who united the kingdoms of England, he also defended wessex successfully against norse onslaught, wessex was the only kingdom that didn't fall, we call him "the great" for a reason,
I was waiting for a T rex to come out of the trees it would fit in about as well as everything else given its from the wrong time period wrong continent and entirely wrong context
Guys, I think Shad already knows it's a video game trailer and not a historical documentary. Doesn't mean he can't analyze the media from a historical lens. You can enjoy fantasy and also compare it to history.
Yeah, but game developers have been using it as an excuse for micro-transactions and DLCs. I mean look at Battlefield 5. They intentionally make games in certain settings like WW2 and say: Brah its only a video game. So a British avatar can use a samurai sword. These decisions are made because they saw how profitable fortnite and PUBG is.
A point about furs from a person living in cold climate for most of my life: for wormth you would rather wear furs on the outside because you can have longer fur, which is warmer, and it would wear out less. What bothers me is lack of hats. Naked scalps like that in Norway even are spring is going to get you pneumonia at least.
@@daniilfedotov8922 It works because the fur is on their skin. If you wear a shirt with fur on the outside, the fur isn't touching you and is therefore not providing the same level of insulation it would were it on the inside. There's a reason why fur winter garments have the fur on the inside. The fact that I actually have to explain this is hilarious
@@nathanwedwick9042 the whole point of the winter clothes is insulation. Adding more layers doesn't cancel insulation. Even fur inside doesn't touch your skin. There are many incredibly warm garments with fur outside.
42:11 In the bottom right, the soldier in the middle had a helmet look more like an actual norse "viking" helmet ( Anglo-saxon troops could also used at that time too, i belive ). Ubisoft art time could have used that helmet to there "viking", and they didn't ... in this trailer at least.
Well. Without a decent fleet it's troublesome to pay them back. And since they were able to pick the place they came ashore, waiting for them somewhere along the coast was futile. Either you spread your army really thin which doesn't help much do defend the pillaged town. Amassing a host somewhere means days to arrive at the point they attacked. Since communication was a problem in this time it means a messenger reach the host and the host marching to the attacked place. By the way. They were quite successful merchants as well travelling far across Europe with their Knarr's.
@@kylevernon You're forgetting danes who were the primarily raiders of Britain. Secondly, look up the massacre of Verden, where christians force converted and slayed a massive amounts of pagans on the borders of Denmark/Northern Germany. Its not like the christians were just living peacefully. How do you think the anglo saxons were turned christian? Through war of course, where they resisted heavily.
I think that is not quite right. If you are really general and say all of Europe was violent, then you are right. However, when you make it a specific type of violence then there are differences. Norse sailed to other countries and raided and pillaged. They also attacked monasteries, which Christians, as a rule, didn't do. The later settlements by the Norse, is very similar to migrations that give the migration period it's name, but also occured before then.
Man I found this channel like two days ago, I'm recovering from surgery after all of my toes were amputated and I've been watching this channel like 5 hours a day hahaha
The Horrible Histories skit about Vikings at the Hairdresser's because they're going raiding tomorrow. Always comes to my mind when Vikings are involved.
The idea that the norseman did their hair up came from somewhere though its heavily mentioned in actual viking history stuff (unlike the false belief they had horns in their helmets)
*ODIN ARRIVES ON THE BATTLE FIELD* Shad: Look it's Merlin! Me: No, THAT'S Odin! Viking: ODIN IS WITH US! Shad: If you say so. Me: Random hooded/ hatted old wanderer with a spear happening upon a battlefield with ravens accompanying him. Yep Odin.
@Richard Ljunglund perhaps it should, it doesn't however, just as the rest of it isn't terribly historically accurate, but it's assassin's creed, who really cares about accuracy
@@henxiety Well it is agreed upon by most historians that the story of Robin Hood took place primarily in Yorkshire, both north and south. Where such locations as Sherwood forest and Robin Hood's bay both exist today. As for when, is not quite understood. But we do know that the original ballads and stories of Robin Hood began circulating around the 15th century.
The Roman inspiration is probably coming from the fact that they’re supposed to be Templar’s. Not the actual Templar’s, but the mythical secret organization that exists in the game world.
5:00 According to the natural museum of Denmark vikings did wear fur, however mostly as lining or as an accent to their clothing. And it was mostly aesthetic, so I doubt it was used in combat.
Maybe if they were traveling throughout cold/harsh climates they would need fur, but wearing on your shoulders OVER your armor completely defeats the purpose. If they were going to wear fur, like Shad said, they would wear UNDERNEATH the armor. But unless you are talking the most northern parts of England, I highly doubt you will need fur to keep yourself warm. You would probably only need some simple wool clothing considering England’s climate during the time.
Fur on the outside would intimidate enemies. Imagine this you go to war and your enemies have bear furs around there shoulders or wolf furs it would scare you and also the fur could possibly give more armour but that is a stretched idea.
UNSC PANDORA it even worse when you look at part of the trailer when the main character encounters a mother and her children and the guy beside the player character is about to kill them but stop him and let’s the family go, couple problems here first being no a typical Viking would have raped the mother and kill or enslave her children now there may have been merciful Vikings but they would have been a severe Minority and most vikings would probably regard them as weaklings which moves to my Second problem that is why is the main character there at all if he has such a problem with raiding villages and what in hell’s name does he think his follow Norseman are doing while they attacking the town.
@@thesmilinggun-knight9646 You realise Vikings were people right? They had morals and ethics like people have for the entirety of the human race. There would have been plenty who were against raping, enslaving, and/or killing innocents for many of the same reasons those things are considered war crimes in the modern day. Sure plenty of them might have done that, but saying that those who chose not to would have been minorities and treated badly for it is ridiculous.
Is no one going to talk about how the knight was completely unaffected by having a sword shoved through his leg? Like seriously he doesn't even limp slightly just tore it out and walked normally
I used to be an adventure like you until I took an sword to the knee... wait nevermind as long as it's not an arrow I'm fine. *Takes hidden blade to brain*
*Shad:* "Cliche stereotypical fantasy bullcrap Vikings." *Me:* Well. . . at least they didn't have horned helmets. *Shad:* We haven't even seen them wear helmets yet. *Me:* . . . crap. And the "Odin is with us!" Odin had two ravens, Hugin and Munin (Thought and Memory) who traveled the realms and reported back to him all the goings on. So seeing a raven could be construed as an omen, that Odin's got his eye on you, and things will play out the way he wants (which is no guarantee he's on your side, mind you. . . Odin's very much a "long-game" kind of fellow).
Erik Bjelke ravens a merge from the trees afterwards... he sees a man watching the man dissapears and the ravens fly out of the tree as if he had transformed into the ravens which is pretty reasonable I guess
Only problem there is, Odin doesn't transform into a raven. And seeing him on the battlefield shouldn't be good, since he's the bringer of death. If Tyr would've been there instead, it would be more accurate, but it wouldn't give the same visual effect I guess.
I bet for the most part, if they were to depict vikings with historically correct armor and clothing, most people would not realize they were vikings. But I honestly would love to see that changed. I do like fantasy viking armor. I think it looks awesome. But at the same time, we are glorifying vikings based on lies xD
New Assassin's Creed game: **takes place in the viking era** Shadiversity: I'm gonna stop you right there Me who has been waiting for this game: Shad no Shadiversity: Shad yes
BREAKING NEWS!!: Grown man with no historic study background makes a desperate 44 min video about how triggered he is over a TRAILER OF A VIDEO GAME!. 2020 everyone, can we as humanity can get even more pettier and pathetic? Tune in next time for another GROWN MAN GETS TRIGGERED OVER RANDOM STUFF REPORT!
Imagine being a random lost old man and you find yourself in the middle of a battle, as you're trying to hide next to a tree you see the leader of one of the armies look at you like you're darn ghost or some crap, so you quickly hide behind the tree and accidentally scare a bird out of the tree and then you hear "Odin is with us!"
in Norse mythology, Odin constantly shows up to people as an old man, he's more of a trickster archetype than a war god. he almost always goes out disguised as someone else in all his myths.
He is correct. Only thing is Vikings were better at raiding. The ships were perfect and the gear. Vikings were high tier raiders and medium tier " Conquers " or whatever. They could easily raid a village before anyone had a chance to counter them. Even the shields were perfect for it.
Ivar The Boneless true, the boats were built using a method called clinker building, which allowed them to make the boats lighter, so they could take the boat overland if needed, and at the same time travel across oceans and rivers. Didn’t know about the shields though, but it makes sense, due to the fact that the Vikings were specialized as raiders, why not specialize you’re equipment
@@7dayspking Not very flamboyant compared to today. It would probably also only be the norsemen back home and not the actual vikings who spent more time sailing and raiding.
@@Lichelf I would say quite flamboyant compared to today. We mostly wear plain and dark colours and our clothes are designed to emphasize our masculinity and often show a lot of skin like our arms. Only the Vikings who did what? You think they designed unique 'savage' clothes for those who fought? Love to see evidence of that.
@@7dayspking savage clothes? You mean armor? Also implying a man looked feminine or liked men was considered abuse and could be retaliated against using violence. Bathing 3-4 times a week also isn't flamboyant.
7:30 - 8:00 Actually one of the main reasons why vikings had such a bad reputation wasnt because of how successful they were but more so their lack of belief in Christianity coupled with the fact they often attacked Christian monasteries, perhaps intentionally leaving survivors in some cases to allow the monastery to rebuild and accumulate wealth. The monasteries often had a lot of wealth due to being apart of the church but also due to their ability to make paper, documents, and books. Naturally, since most of the people who could write at the time got constantly attacked and harassed by "godless heathens" they wrote a lot about how much they hated them.
Mind the old "Yes, we have been raiding, slaughtering and capturing slaves from each other for a long time now, but these Vikings dare to come here from god-knows-where and do it. That's not how it's done. They should stay where they are and do it to each other."
When the trailer said “godless barbarians” he said “there were actually some Vikings who were Christian” I hope you realize that that was the King of Wessex talking, he was trying to tell whoever he was talking to that they were evil. You obviously wouldn’t be telling your people that the enemy are pretty nice people when declaring war.
Reminds me of a Quest in Witcher 2 where you replay the events of the big battle in the second act. A few soldiers are talking about the enemy and are like "My sister married a man from there, he's a really nice guy." and "I've been to the markets over there, good selection and good prices." and so forth until a commander hears them and is like "WTF IS THIS! EVERY LAST ONE IS A DIRTY DOG! NOW GO KILL THEM"
@@Xaiff Pretty sure Shad don't drink ale, so axe most definitely: "Hold my appropriately time-period stylized axe. Not too thick, no tip decorations, and only one blade!"
I live in Denmark. I my home town we have this old viking ring fortress, where kids can come and live as vikings for a week in the summer. It's almost like a live museum where people dress and live as vikings the whole summer. I was there 2 years in a row, and I didn't see anybody wearing fur, or leather armor. The only clothing leather was used for was belts and shoes.
You're speaking about a Trelleborg, my friend. There are 9 known ones throughout Denmark and southern Sweden (former Denmark). They are believed to have been built by King Harald Bluetooth. May I ask what your hometown is? :)
Sepulcher Yea, thats where the name for bluetooth comes from, it was the code name and the original name was something boring so they decided to go with the code name. The little bluetooth symbol is actually stacked runes, an h and a b. You should look it up, its pretty cool :)
I like that you set the tone straight on fur which yeah could have absolutely been used but not commonly non-fur protection is fully capable of looking badass but they just got to get the correct design for a video game
@@tahunuva4254 Yeah it's weird that you got a lot better results ten years ago. Look at Wikipedia, it used to be a decent enough source, now it's a freaking joke. And the Searchresults from other places such as google as you say, have surely taken a dive, mostly into paid promotions land.
Actually Shad is right, but wrong on the things that there hasn't been any finds. Most Norwegian historian agree that Vikings wouldn't use leather for armor. Also if you go to an play in Norway about Vikings. You are much more likely to see mail and an tunic.
The Broigne (leather coat of plates) does exist but 1: it's referenced very few times in the sagas and 2: very very few finds (I think maybe six total)
Shad: Can Scandinavian farmers be considered as Vikings? No, you’ll have to go on a Viking to be a Viking or be a Viking to be a Viking then you will be considered a Viking .
I ate in a Somewhat buffet style bar in Japan that they call Viking, does that make me Viking? XD, to explain better, any buffet they call it Viking, be it of only bread and salad and sauces like they had in many famires places or in others where they have meat and such, in Japan Viking is the word for Buffet, but i never heard of a veggie viking XD.
@@bernhardvonbarret1729 Check out "Lyle the Kindly Viking" then! "We're Vikings! What do you know, the terrors of the sea! We're Vikings! Sailing along, pillaging happily! We're Vikings! Let there be no ambiguity! For who doesn't like a pile of loot, A sack full of gold, and a shiny suit, and a giant big-screen TV to boot? We're Vikings! The terrors of the sea!"
@DOOMSlayer vikings could be anyone. Any profession. All they have to do is grab a spear and board the ship. There's no need to sling insults and catholophobic comments
try to flip around the terms a bit could a (regular) Norwegain be considered a Policeman? no, you'll have to (have to work as) a policeman to be a policeman or be a Policeman to be a Policeman, then you will be considered a Policeman
Shad: *Picks apart every single scene to try and date the period based on armor and weaponry* Also Shad: *Completely misses the signature "Ælfred" (**15:20**) that dates it to within 2 decades (871-899)* Me: ...Alright
@@user-ee9cz6mc1x I noticed that Shad tends to do that. He lets his biases and prejudices get the better of him which causes him to ignore and/or overlook lots of things as well as to go into the review with a negative opinion and looks for everything to support his negative opinion.
@@Riceball01 I mean, most of his negative opinion here is valid. There are conflicting visual cues as to the era, and he's primarily an arms and armor enthusiast, so that's where his focus was.
If I remember correctly Odin has been often described as just appearing for help and encouragement looking like a wandering old man as he’s depicted here
Eh. . . not precisely. Odin is very much a "long-game" sort of guy. He would often appear in disguise, with a hood or a broad-brimmed hat to hide his one eye, but if "Odin the Wanderer" crossed your path, he was as likely to hinder you or just not give a crap as he was to help you out. Because helping you out might not be in the best interests of his long game, and he might want to hasten your trip to Valhalla to add you to the ranks of what amounts to his undead army.
I might be wrong but I remember reading that Tyr might have actually been an earlier version of Odin but was demoted to a lower deific role as Odin became more popular.
Bruh, this is a franchise where time travelling aliens use planet sized force fields, lazer guns and mind control tech to create humans. Even ignoring that stuff, AC has always "Glamourized" their settings
I've been binge-watching your videos for a few days now and I have learned an enormous amount about, well, everything. History. Food. Culture. Weaponry. Architecture. Combat. Such a wealth of content. Thank you so much.
The fact that they're sieging a 13th century castle makes it even more ridiculous. Not to mention that the big boss guy is wearing 5th century roman armor.
There's a chance that he's a templar, which gives him some leeway for wacky armor. Also, I could be wrong, but the Welsh were still pretty Romanized at this point, yes? Could've been Welsh.
Barokai Rein why does it matter? It’s a game. If every assassins creed game was 100 percent historically accurate it probably would be a little boring. They gotta make the game fun, not boring. Personally I love the Roman looking armor, I know a lot about history but this stuff doesn’t bother me at all, like I saw so many people in odyssey complaining that in one scene a spartan through his shield...so what? It’s a game. Not everything has to be history accurate.
WE DO KNOW THE TIME PERIOD!! the letter is signed by the king “Alfred” this is Alfred the great (849-899) he is known for being a good king and stopping the vikings conquering Wessex and the rest of England. Pretty early Viking given that timeframe!
Right. So the kite shields are 100% anachronistic. So I guess they wanted to have a large visual difference between "danes" (actually norwegians in this case) and saxons. WHich leads to the saxons being time travellers and the danes not using helmets... great.
@@scelonferdi well it's supposed to be a game. People would want variety, be able to tell the difference, have character between factions. Doesn't have to be a "historical simulator"
The image of the old man in the battle at 32:50 or so was Odin...who was said to travel in disguise as an old man in a cloak. You can tell by the two ravens...Odin's birds Huginn and Muninn, who flew away from the tree soon afterwards.
The whole trailer intro is meant to be ironic. When the dude says "they are heartless" it's a shot of a happy family. "they are godless" when everyone knows that vikings were believers of norse mythology and later some became christians. I mean, the dude writing the letter is obviously trying to convince his allies that the vikings are cold blooded killers so he can fight Them and actually have a decent chance of winning. That's all
Also, this is said by the Christian King who was depicting their enemies, and in their eyes there was only one true god, and anyone who believed in Norse gods would - in the eyes of the English King - be godless as they didn't see norse gods as real gods. Yea it's kinda annoying when some people take things so literally without reading in between the lines, especially when it's so obvious as in this example.
Yeah exactly as that is how the people of the time wrote about the Vikings. Always painting them worse than they probably were and themselves better than they were
The most inaccurate thing in that trailer is England's weather: they depicted _England_ as sunny and warm. England, sunny and warm... those words don't go together. EDIT: Just to be clear, I am joking. I am well aware that England sometimes is sunny.
Yes and no, in England they have a lot of cloudy days but they know sunny days as well although they don't really know what to do when they get really good weather. I remember my vacation in England (Sussex, actually fissited Battle, the place were the battle of Hastings happened) in 2013 verry well, I was there for 2 weeks and in those weeks we had only 25°C+ and a cloud less sky. It can happen there but the only thing we heard on the radio were people talking about the extreme good weather and that you really have to protect your self with subprojection, especially baby's, it seemed like a couple had died because the there parents didn't protect them against the sun and left them for hours outside. I myself come from the Netherlands, witch is also known for lots of rain, and we can have weeks without seeing the sun but for us it were just 2 good summer weeks while the English just kept talking about this extreme weather
Well I can see one real use for one volley of fire arrows in that situation, it would give you a chance to see the target you're aiming at through the fog when you start firing the next volleys of normal arrows, also it is slightly panic inducing to have fire coming at you. Honestly it doesn't surprise me seeing the older armors with the newer, thats one of the problems of a feudal system with no standing armies is a lot of making due with what you have if you can't afford a ton of new armors made for your soldiers. Grandpas old Roman armor is still better then commoner wool armor alone.
Shoot fire arrows from atop a wall that looks like it has machicolations, but actually doesn't because they're fake. While wearing fur on top of leather armor.
@@fredchallenger5278 Not closer and I'd love to see your evidence for that. The stereotypical horned helmet actually looks very similar to real 9th century helmets, just with horns.
We actually were given the time period that this is taking place. Look back at the scene where the antagonist king is writing the letter and look carefully at his signature and seal. The seal is the same as coin artifacts that have printed the visage of Alfred of Wessex. So our character is fighting against Alfred the Great.
Historians: Horned Helmets on Vikings is not historical!
Fiction: We fixed it by removing all the Helmets!
Historians: You wot?
We actually don't have that many helmets found in the Viking period in Scandinavia
JoelK1991 one thing is not finding that many the other is literally not wearing any in battle just to show the “ Viking hairstyle “
@@JoelK1991 Yeah, if I remember correctly only 5 have been found.
@@JoelK1991 We dont have many corintian helmets either, doesn't mean hoplites weren't wearing them, visual sources always depict "vikings" having helmets
@@joaovitorfarinabraga690 That classic hairstile with the buzzed temples was actially very common among Lombards in the 7th century or so, norse men are reported to keep their hair long
Shad, I have a history degree with a focus on Europe 400-1200 CE. Primarily my degree focused on Eastern Europe but my passion was England during that time period, being invaded by Saxons, Norse and Normans it was endlessly fascinating and if it were not for a dearth of classes in the region and time period I would have focused there. None the less I have done extensive research on my own. I have a few critiques for you as I know your knowledge base really picks up after the height Viking Era post Norman conquest.
I disagree and agree with you on a lot of points here but these three things stood out to me.
First, the Norse didn't have great lands for farming. You're right, it was a warmer time but the soil is/was of poor quality which resulted in low yields very close to 1:1 or 1:2 where England was about 1:3 even with the poor technology of the time. So farming and getting arable land was a primary motivation for going Viking. Wealth was a top priority for others since raiding Keivan Rus and other regions to the south and east just wasn't as profitable as it was previously.
The second is just how disappointed I am with you not instantly recognizing Odin. "The stranger" or appearing in a hood is perhaps the most common way he would appear in stories to mortals. Then he turns into a raven which not only was an analog for Odin himself, but then it flew towards the enemy which in the pagan religion was often seen as a great omen of favor. That was actually something this trailer got really right about the mythology. I guess I just thought you would have caught that.
Finally, on the leather. You're 100% right, leather armor if ever used would have been hardened through boiling and all evidence points to it being rare. However, leather clothes were not terribly uncommon. I do myself give a little benefit of doubt that it is not meant to depict armor but rather is meant to simply be clothing to help keep them dry, something leather does much better than wool or flax cloth. Considering these were a sea faring people keeping dry certainly would have been a consideration. History is not clear on the fur trim and though there was likely too much of it depicted here the Vikings did like to wear dead animals to intimidate just like the Saxons liked to put dead animals on sticks (sort of like banners) for intimidation purposes.
As a side note, mail (for both sides) and helmets (for the Vikings) was somewhat uncommon early on in this era just due to how hard it was to produce though over time that certainly changed. It was certainly preferred, but few vikings had access. Since the English king being represented was Alfred of Wessex (the wax seal is clearly a copy of the coinage he minted in his likeness) that would put this in the early to middle of Danelaw/Viking invasions between 870 and 900 CE. The Anglo-Saxon armor was all wrong which you did spot perfectly, the axes were too broad and too big and the lack of shield walls did hurt.
I don't want to go on too long, you did get a lot right, but again, your knowledge from watching you for a long time seems to focus on things after 1000 CE or before 400 CE. Not many really know this era well.
From one Medieval historian to another, thank you for this. That is one thing a lot of commentary misses is especially that even though leather might not be meant/able to deflect blows from an axe, even thin leather is water resistant, wind proof, and could slow down a blade/arrow before it reaches the chainmail beneath. Meanwhile, while iron production to the degree needed to produce massive amounts of chainmail did exist, leather off of game animals was free if you could kill it.
Hail to the Vikings, the creators of carbon steel and people that boasted a 90% literacy rate.
@@patrickadams7274 Wait. Were they really 90% literate? Are you referring to the runes? And about which time period are we talking about? Are there any sources on that? I don't mean to be rude, I'm just genuinely interested in this.
Jeez dude when's are you publishing this?
@@enlightenedterrestrial During my grad degree, one of my professors was going over Scandinavian culture between the 8th-10th century. The matter of their alphabet (he used the Futhark as his prime example) came up and then he used a colleague's research for his evidence. It seems in almost every settlement that we typically associate with Vikings, there was a hole dug near each village. The hole was basically their landfill which they would toss any object they regarded as trash. Inside they found hundreds of small slabs of bark with runes carved in them. The words? Shopping lists for their raids (Hagar was right in this case), children practicing writing their names or drawing maps, and orders for weapons and ship parts. The sheer proliferation of slabs and an examination by a paleographer said that they had nearly a 90% (close to 96% in some villages) representation of literacy among the population.
This was the single biggest example of "one man's trash is another man's treasure" I had ever heard.
It seems to be suggested that only berserkers wore fur, since the word literally means "bear skin" (pelt, to be specific).
Alternate title: Shad gets mad at armor, weapons, and shields for 40 minutes.
And we love him for it
For good reasons
st00g3y this can be the title for almost every of his videos
That’s my type of content
I started laughing while watching the trailer the second I saw all the leather and fur armor LOL
I love how shad turned something like a couple of minutes of length into a full documentary about the medieval norse way of living. lmao
This is almost like the time somebody nitpicked the map of the world Animaniacs episode so much it became like 30 minutes
>Focuses on the type of helmet to disecern the time period
>Is oblivious to the ALFRED [of Wessex] signature
Indeed saw numerous other videos talk about him
Can we not go to Wessex? Its fucking shit.
@@robertbarrass9176 I wonder where you would consider not shit
@@cyberbird451 Somewhere that is not the land of eternal rain ? Like Italy.
Lmao I thought no one else noticed
Shad: "Okay Ubisoft, what do you know about Vikings?"
Ubisoft: "Skyrim belongs to the Nords!"
Yes.
I'd be afraid to ever work for Ubisoft because of people online absolutely tearing apart the historical inaccuracies about their games, lol
@@randomcommenter7343 And games media finding an excuse to drum up controversy and hardcore fans.
I love democracy
eagle PHD let me guess you still butthurt about female Vikings?
probable reason why the army leader was wearing only "crappy leather" armor: if he is important to the overall story, he will have plot armor, so he can wear stuff just to make him look good. ;-D
at first i thought it was a decorative covering to wealth, and that he had chainmail and gambeson underneath
But actual armour looks so much cooler!
lol
Gotta buy the good armor in the micro transactions.
And when in battle, leaders would need the freedom of movement.
Game: *depicts Odin very clearly on the battlefield as a sign to the main character, hammers it home with the Ravens*
Shad: Hey look it's merlin!
Game: Odin is with us!
Shad: Don't think so mate...
lol.
Maybe they’re all using the “hide helmet” feature? :p
By Odin, I hope they remove that from Valhalla, that shit destroyed immersion.
I like "hide helmet", but maybe it...I understand it doesn't make sense that a person would be running around a battlefield without one.
Maybe they're just space wolves...
What are you talking about? They're not even wearing a hide helmet
Prawn haha good one
viking: Big
enemy: smol
legionary guy: DUMMY THICC
Legionary: king alfred i'm dummy thicc and the clap of my leather (scale) keeps alerting the viking
@@aaronarcher248 solid snake voice: King Harold, I'm trying to eliminate the Vikings, but I'm *dummy* *thicc* and the clap of my scales keeps alerting Harald Hardrada
@Diamant my mistake, king Harold fought Harald Hardrada, not Alfred
He's supposed to be a Saxon. Vikings and Saxons shared some Danish heritage.
Shad: "I like kite Shields they make me happy" : completely ignoring the chopped off lower leg in the screen
I was like - you not going to say anything about that leg just casually flying through the air.. don't you see it?! :D
OMG l think this is the first heart a TH-camr ever gave me!!!!
the fur on the inside is for warmth, fur on the outside is more. "I killed this creature, I am badass."
it literally holds no use aside from appeal when the fur is on the outside.
@Snakeye Plissken to be fair fur is shown on the outside very often in Fantasy. with mages I could see them simply using pyromancy (fire magic) to stay warm, but Ulfric, the true high king of Skyrim, and his officers are not mages. granted Nords have resistance to cold.
haha so what is your depiction of badass then? a cool skin in fortnite?
@@sirsmokesalot2939 badass=tough, strong, powerful. when I said ""I killed this creature, I am badass"" I meant in appearance they look like they are badass, when in actuality the fur wouldn't help at all.
@@lordreptilestormblade1749 actually it would. its meant to strike fear into others and also it is an extra layer of warmth
38:38 That wasn't the armor working, That's not posible, everyone knows armor doesn't work and it's all about fashion. What happened there is historically known as "abs of steel" (?
Lol that dude is literally Legate Lanius
Shad: “I love kite shields” *doesn’t comment on the dismembered leg flying through the air on the same frame*
Ps Shad I love your content
was thinking the exact same thing lmao
That leg's previous owner clearly didn't have a kite shield.
I never noticed 😂
I first thought, "that is weird looking axe. It's so thick and there is something spraying out of it... Oh."
And later he's talking about a warhammer while some guy is about to get his throat slit
Leather armour: *exists *
Shad: "It's treason then."
i actually think there is a use for leather armor (in fantasy only): leather does not catch fire easily. gambeson is really useful against blades and arrows, but it has a higher chance of catching on fire.
im just an amateur, so im probably wrong...
@@magistermagus1211 Oh leather was definitely used, but not as much nor in the manner that it is often depicted. Not much is known about its advantages or disadvantages, the fire thing sounds interesting however. Soaked hide was known to be used as a flame retardant on seige equipment.
Shad is wrong , leather armor was abundant in the period .
Not the best for sure .
Most people hunted , leather was abundant.
Leather also rots , so there would be less left behind as time passed .
It has to be maintained .
@@mefit1 Yes but imagine an army of thousands of soldiers all clad in leather. That's a lot of animals that need to be hunted and killed and then skinned and then that skin needs to go through an involved process that requires time and talent, and we aren't even at the point where it's being made into armour yet. Why do all that with more limited resources when you could just use textiles that are just about as effective and much easier to mass produce and has a more sustainable source?
Sure, it might have been more common than Shad thinks (I personally believe it was) but the amount of effort to produce it compared to others would probably make it less popular.
“So you have chosen, death”
Assassins creed franchise was never super historically accurate, but after Syndicate they really let their fantasy lose.
What? Because assassin's creed black flag was really accurate lmao
Syndicate was shit :/
@@valtontony826a lot of characters were
Ac1 had already some heavy fantasy, so do not talk any bullshit, we know, we love, we play, and futher? Stfu!!
People trying to explain how the guided arrow isn't magic is amusing.
Sure you can make it go somewhere but you can't control as an RC plane.
Saxon stabs with a spear.
Viking: You think a little poke in the ribs is going to stop me?
Second Saxon stabs again
Viking: yup, that will do it.
Michael Hansen ok best comment I’ve so far lol
i mean we can all see one went in the rib the other one went thru his heart so :p
@@msmlolmanpolybrige0335 yup, and unfortunately chainmail isn't to great on stopping thrusting weapons like spears swords and arrows.
@@michaelhansen2818 it can stop a sword slash probably not a sword thrust
This kills the viking.
{sees fire arrows} Somewhere out there, Lindybeige is shaking his fist at Ubisoft.
😅😅😅😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Next thing they’re going to say is they never unscrewed their pommels to end them rightly!!
@@Lobsterwithinternet Admittedly that would be way more terrifying.
"The sky will be black with Pommels."
"Then at least we are ended rightly."
They french
Um, Actually, they're called loose arrows. SMH.
@@Lobsterwithinternet So many insiders, I like it! ^^
Nobody:
Ubisoft Vikings: *Wears leather armour*
Shad: Me no like leather. Me angry.
Ubisoft: *Adds kite shields*
Shad: Ooo, Me like kite shield. Me happy now.
Lord Azreal Lais bro these have literally been things since the first game.
@Lord Azreal Lais jugo and luna? you stupid af dawg. gtfo if you dont like the game, dont like it. dont play it. easy as that, that's been AC for as long as I can remember
@Lord Azreal Lais bro, the whole ridiculous Isu thing was the whole point of the Assassins Creed, not the historical event itself. Heck even the first 3 games revolve around Abstergo and the Isu, Desmond was just using the Animus to play his ancestor's memories.
Lord Azreal Lais real historic? Sorry but they are not actually, they were just based on historical events, even the historical events in this game are twisted and made into a fictional story so that it can fit into the whole First Civilization idea.
Don't tell me you really believe that Hashinshin's (Real life Arabic assassins in which Altair's Levintine assassins were based upon) have hidden blades and do leap of faith on tallest buildings? There are no historical evidence of hidden blades, let alone white robe uniform for assassins. Lol
Lord Azreal Lais “ridiculous now”, the artifacts of eden was always in the games
33:09
The soldier literally has his sword on the viking's neck, already having a win, but for some reason he lets go ofnthe viking from shock when Eivor says "Odin is with us".
Like what????
nobody:
shad: “so this piece of cheese looks like goat cheese, and goats were most commonly milked in the 10th century”
69th like.
@@cyrilgigee4630 no one fucking cares.
@@Oxide-Actual I do care a lot
@@BasilVII
Loser
@@cyrilgigee4630 cringe
Ok this is nice, but when he said godless barbarians, king alfred was wrong the trailer did that on purpose, the king was depicting them wrong based on personal hate which is accurate for the time period Saxons didn't exactly like pagans, Christians in general. Also I should note that I only agree with some of what was said in the video, because not everything you said in here was correct shad.
the outsider THANK U
To think that was obvious. The trailer is narrated by the King saying things that are immediately contradicted by what's shown. "a land they will never defend, never love" and yet there they are, being human.
Buying this game just to crack some Christian skulls as a pagan badass. It is about time the AC series finally brought that up.
He should have watched the trailer before trying to disect the trailer...
@@haruhirogrimgar6047 So nice of you to bring religion into this
Shad trying to figure out what time period it is:
King stamps a declaration of war that says "Alfred" in huge letters.
Shad: "Is that servant wearing LEATHER?"
Nergal there were like thirteen alfreds though, all in a row
@@jaguar_8344 the most famous king to ever fight the Vikings was Alfred the Great tho, so it's pretty telling
@@jaguar_8344 There was literally only one Alfred - Alfred the Great. That's why he's commonly called just "king Alfred". He did come to power following Æthelwulf, Æthelbald, Æthelberht and Æthelred, so this might be the row you're referring to?
28:20
*leg flying into the sky*
Shad: hey, nice kite shield.
32:27 Actually, Shad, some tales of Odin describe him as appearing to mortals as a hooded man, so yeah, that guy's interpretation isn't actually bad. (well, except merely seeing Odin doesn't mean he's on your side, he could just as easily be wishing you die on this battle quicker so you are added to his army in Valhalla)
Odin wouldn't wish people to die quicker, but he would walk through the field of battle to pick out the bodies of the bravest warriors for the Valkyries to carry off to Valhalla, so he could have been doing just that. Also, one possible interpretation of seeing Odin on the battlefield could be as a premonition of your own impending death, which would be closer to what you are saying; however Odin transforms into a raven, and then flies towards the Saxon lines which would likely be interpreted as an omen of victory over the Saxon's.
@@spamfilter32 One problem though. Since when did Odin start to transform into ravens :P
Might be the mushrooms the main guy most likely ate before going to war...
spamfilter32 odin transforms into raven? Isn’t that just huginn and muninn. And to my knowledge, odin have servant (Valkyries) who collects the souls so why he himself walking around in battlefield looting souls?
@@olegvolkov7365 tho Odin *can* transform into an eagle (the Mead of Poetry myth)
@@Schmorgus I mean it's Odin, if he can turn into an eagle what is to stop him from turning into a raven?
The main Viking doesn't NEED mail armor or a shield. He's already got the best armor ever. pLoT aRmOr.
Yeessss
Well...strictly speaking if he’s the main character his plot armor is only as good as you are in the game. Lol
@@121Xander121 So it's not a plot armor then
Lumos -Lio- Not if you suck and consistently die and can’t get to the end of the game. Can’t have plot armor if you never advance the plot.
Yeah cause I want to pay $60. only to not be able to play it ever again when I die an hour after I start the game...
Talk sense man.
“Hmmm, I wonder how long this is...”
>checks time
>10 times the length of the trailer
“Yeah, seems about right for Shad.”
Longman good
Longman bad 😡
@@mikked01 that's a racetism
its money so they can put ad breaks in
@@DavidVenters
No ads. Is likely gonna get demonetized because of gore and other content. The length was actually needed to explore the points at least adequately, and he was also *holding back* . He could have expanded FAR more on various points, like leather, mail armour, swords, axes, everything pretty much.
Fantasy Logic: We need something tougher than our skin to protect our skin... hmm, let's just use normal dried skin.
To be fair, even on biker gear, you can find leather which protects from a high speed road rash.. so not completely impossible.
@@1IGG True, but I doubt that's guaranteed for much protection. Style and comfort are arguably more important to the person in that context, whereas protection is of increased importance even for wear-around type armor. Also, skidding down asphalt is a very different beast to taking a hit from any kind of handheld weapon. Again, not saying you're incorrect, just some more points.
@@cyrilgigee4630 leather can also still be hardened alot more and alot thicker than the soft thinner leather you normally see used in clothing though. The point is that having a thick hardened leather covering would still provide more protection than nothing at all.
@@Sciguy95 The problem is that most leather came from cows (In Europe) and needing to kill an animal that can offer you milk and breed more cows just for it's leather would be waaay too expensive. Gambeson by itself is far more easier to produce and get the same amount of protection as it.
@@n0rdlys_40 which has nothing to do with what I said. We were talking about the possible protection it could offer, not how popular it would actually be.
was anyone else actually rooting for the time traveling roman longsword tank guy to win, cause I was.
I was so into the fight i forgot it was AC. so when it it showed the blade thru his eye i was like OHHH SHIT! THATS RIIIGHT!🤣
INCREDIBILIS
Same
Yeah, I'm kind of tiring of the viking craze
Same, when are we gonna get our game about being a mighty Saxon hero defending churches and towns from Viking armies?
Shad: Oh kite shields. Kite shields make me happy. At least this guy is wearing mail.
*completely ignores the leg flying past*
That leg's previous owner clearly didn't use a kite shield.
@@synapse0 Or the leg anyway...
Vikings have been to America. These must be American longboats, because American vehichles always explode and catch on fire really quickly in movies and video games
Lol
Vampirspiegelei and multiple settlements in New Hampshire and Canada area
Which is accurate if you're looking at their pre-upgraded tanks in WW2, but funny enough the nation known for their vehicles burning easily was Japan.
@@xcritic9671 Yeah a lot of people have heard of the so called Tommy Cooker. But Ireally just meant the TV/movie trope. It's pretty unlikely to make a car explode by shooting at it yet in most action movies: BOOM fireworks (while not accurate it certainly is more entertaining)
@@Vampirspiegelei Well, liquid gas tanks are treated as bombs strapped to the undercarriage, but ironically getting shot through the radiator doesn't ever cause the engines to blow.
Gamers: So what time period does this take place in?
Ubisoft: Yes
The fact that the main king of Wessex is narrating the story should tell that but shows what research you know
@@l_Egoist_l Alfred the Great, the man who united the kingdoms of England, he also defended wessex successfully against norse onslaught, wessex was the only kingdom that didn't fall, we call him "the great" for a reason,
@@l_Egoist_l where I live is actually in the game, northwic its actually kinda cool to have my historical city depicted in a video game
I was waiting for a T rex to come out of the trees it would fit in about as well as everything else given its from the wrong time period wrong continent and entirely wrong context
Ubisoft: uses leather and fur.
Shad: Anger noises
Fun Fact: these guys aren't actually Vikings, their just time traveling bikers who got lost on their way to a rally
Bikings.
@@juliendacoolien3454 Indeed
the so-called bikings, then!
You mean ... VALrally
And I thought this was your average amon amarth moshpit.
Guys, I think Shad already knows it's a video game trailer and not a historical documentary. Doesn't mean he can't analyze the media from a historical lens. You can enjoy fantasy and also compare it to history.
When you said "guys", you mean new viewers to the channel, right? Hope they will sub to the channel because almost 1mill now and it feels like ages
I miss Assassin's Creed being a fun entry into historic sites and figures with liberties for their templar-assassin story-line
True. It does kind of bring up the question of just *how* inaccurate something needs to get before there's no longer a point to calling it out though.
Yeah, but game developers have been using it as an excuse for micro-transactions and DLCs. I mean look at Battlefield 5. They intentionally make games in certain settings like WW2 and say: Brah its only a video game. So a British avatar can use a samurai sword. These decisions are made because they saw how profitable fortnite and PUBG is.
Fucking thank you, my god. Assassin's creed used to be history with conspiracies and sci fi mcguffins.
A point about furs from a person living in cold climate for most of my life: for wormth you would rather wear furs on the outside because you can have longer fur, which is warmer, and it would wear out less. What bothers me is lack of hats. Naked scalps like that in Norway even are spring is going to get you pneumonia at least.
Fur on the outside doesn't keep you warm.
@@nathanwedwick9042 so all fur animals wear it for the looks?
@@daniilfedotov8922 It works because the fur is on their skin. If you wear a shirt with fur on the outside, the fur isn't touching you and is therefore not providing the same level of insulation it would were it on the inside. There's a reason why fur winter garments have the fur on the inside. The fact that I actually have to explain this is hilarious
@@nathanwedwick9042 the whole point of the winter clothes is insulation. Adding more layers doesn't cancel insulation. Even fur inside doesn't touch your skin. There are many incredibly warm garments with fur outside.
@@daniilfedotov8922 You really don't know how this works do you?
come on now, everyone knows fire arrows deal an additional 60% damage as fire.
I’m saying
So... you're telling me that the most accurate "viking" game around is the DLC for Mount and Blade: Warband?
Yes
Absolutely- Viking Conquest is crazy accurate and I love it!
Crusader Kings?
That DLC is really good
Pretty much
Everyone: Look at all the brutality and body parts!
Shad: Yay kite shield!
With all the fur and leather you’d think These guys are going to a furry convention
20 years ago: all vikings wear horned helmets.
today: all vikings wear NO helmets.
sigh
There will be plenty of helmets in the game as loot..... But whateva
How else would they show off their cool beards and hair?
Well, not quite. The Vikings in US Bank Stadium do.
42:11 In the bottom right, the soldier in the middle had a helmet look more like an actual norse "viking" helmet ( Anglo-saxon troops could also used at that time too, i belive ). Ubisoft art time could have used that helmet to there "viking", and they didn't ... in this trailer at least.
i mean, that's mostly for cinematographic reasons. You have to identify them somehow (which is already hard enough).
But Shad...the helmets would ruin their fabulous hair !
( I'm being sarcastic. )
We know.
No, you're not
They had fabulous hair indeed
* slo-mo hair swing *
@@johannfowl8653 😁
The guy who was shot in the neck at least died with a fabulous hair instead of surviving with a ruined hair.
The cinematics looks like The Viking TV Series and the anime Vinland Saga. Even characters looks like same.
Realism is nowhere in sight.
Cue tiny 15 year olds jumping 30ft
the clothing is more 'accurate' than in the tv show
Why do I see you everywhere?
Vinland Saga was still more realistic in terms of armor and weapons, not in the case of the main characters of course...
Surprised half the ships werent full of fucking fairytale shield maidens
the rest of Europe: raids, pillages, and plunders
Vikings: raid, pillage and plunder
The rest of Europe: surprised Pikachu face.
Yes but in this specific era, it pretty much was the Norwegian or Swedish raiders coming to Britain and raiding them. It was pretty one sided.
Well. Without a decent fleet it's troublesome to pay them back. And since they were able to pick the place they came ashore, waiting for them somewhere along the coast was futile. Either you spread your army really thin which doesn't help much do defend the pillaged town. Amassing a host somewhere means days to arrive at the point they attacked. Since communication was a problem in this time it means a messenger reach the host and the host marching to the attacked place.
By the way. They were quite successful merchants as well travelling far across Europe with their Knarr's.
@@kylevernon You're forgetting danes who were the primarily raiders of Britain. Secondly, look up the massacre of Verden, where christians force converted and slayed a massive amounts of pagans on the borders of Denmark/Northern Germany. Its not like the christians were just living peacefully. How do you think the anglo saxons were turned christian? Through war of course, where they resisted heavily.
I think that is not quite right. If you are really general and say all of Europe was violent, then you are right. However, when you make it a specific type of violence then there are differences. Norse sailed to other countries and raided and pillaged. They also attacked monasteries, which Christians, as a rule, didn't do. The later settlements by the Norse, is very similar to migrations that give the migration period it's name, but also occured before then.
@@AndreasZeitzFehse The land in Britain was also richer, so it made no sense to raid Scandinavia.
Modern depictions of Vikings: basically blond orcs.
Which is interesting because historical vikings apparently looked a lot more like tall dwarves (tolkien dwarves).
which is interesting because the vikings were actually tall blond orcs
@Gram Looner short blond orcs?
Gram Looner weren’t they like 5’6?
Junior Vences I think they were like 5’6 which was pretty tall back then
Cool Guy: *gets stabbed straight through the leg*
Shad: Ah, a better view of this guys's large sword.
Bruh he just Vibin'
tis but a scratch
Real Vikings had horned helmets and dragons they would fly around on.
@Thomas Emilio " By Ysmir you wont leave Skyrim alive!"- some other Viking
Finally someone who is speaking fax 🙏.
They also shouted magic words that required the souls of said dragons.
@@williamwontiam3166 bet
And their spirits would be brought to Valhalla by beautiful Valkyries once they died.
This is literally one of my favorite TH-cam channels now I found it about like 2 weeks ago and I just can't stop watching it I love it
For something horribly critiquing a game trailer on terribly horrible facts and taking the enjoyment out of a game I’m glad you do
Man I found this channel like two days ago, I'm recovering from surgery after all of my toes were amputated and I've been watching this channel like 5 hours a day hahaha
The Horrible Histories skit about Vikings at the Hairdresser's because they're going raiding tomorrow. Always comes to my mind when Vikings are involved.
*had to find that aforementioned skit and have a look it it before finishing Shads review...enjoyed it immensely*
The idea that the norseman did their hair up came from somewhere though its heavily mentioned in actual viking history stuff (unlike the false belief they had horns in their helmets)
Was it History Of The World Part 1. Where they have horned helmets during a funeral? I loved that gag too.
*ODIN ARRIVES ON THE BATTLE FIELD*
Shad: Look it's Merlin!
Me: No, THAT'S Odin!
Viking: ODIN IS WITH US!
Shad: If you say so.
Me: Random hooded/ hatted old wanderer with a spear happening upon a battlefield with ravens accompanying him. Yep Odin.
Definitely The AllFather! Hail and Skal!
Zantanzuken!
Yeah, it was kinda weird he didn't catch it.
The raven was oden’s sign that he was there
My only gripe is that Odin is traditionally depicted with a long cloak and a wide brim hat when walking amongst humans but it’s whatever.
I think the king is Alfred the Great, it looks like he's signed his name Ælfrǣd
Agreed
It says 'Ælfrǣd Rex' or King Alfred.
It is, he's the main antagonist of the game
@Richard Ljunglund perhaps it should, it doesn't however, just as the rest of it isn't terribly historically accurate, but it's assassin's creed, who really cares about accuracy
Kung Fury:
What year is this?
Barbariana:
You're in the Viking Era.
Kung Fury:
The Viking Era...
That explains the Laser Raptor...
To this day I still think AC: Robin Hood would be excellent.
Ooh, now there's an idea. I can definitely see the Robin Hood and AC aesthetic going well together.
Yea the moral codes, tactics and fashion sense lines up pretty well for them there.
That actually sounds pretty good
But whats the setting and where? Robin Hood isn't a concrete character that has a setting and is adjusting to the whims of the author
@@henxiety Well it is agreed upon by most historians that the story of Robin Hood took place primarily in Yorkshire, both north and south. Where such locations as Sherwood forest and Robin Hood's bay both exist today. As for when, is not quite understood. But we do know that the original ballads and stories of Robin Hood began circulating around the 15th century.
The Roman inspiration is probably coming from the fact that they’re supposed to be Templar’s. Not the actual Templar’s, but the mythical secret organization that exists in the game world.
Yeah pretty sure in previous games the Templars were associated with Byzantium. Maybe he’s from there.
The "roman" helmets are probably inspired by... actual saxon helmets from early middle ages.
Google image search - saxon helmets.
It's an early middle ages Anglo-Saxon helmet called the "hoard helmet"
@@joao.fenix1473 The staffordshire hoard helmet did not have Valgärde 8 spectacles though.
@@pastlife960 the flags looked like byzantine empire flags idk
AC Valhalla trailer: 5 minutes
Shad's analysis: 44 minutes
Watch the star wars fight between Obi-Wan and Anakin breakdown. You'll love that one
I’m hoping he doesn’t pause every few seconds
@@nicknamenotwitty9065 *EFAP intensifies*
Teachers and students fear him alike
And all of it is actually content. Unlike other TH-camrs who make 10 minute videos when what you came for is like 30 seconds.
5:00 According to the natural museum of Denmark vikings did wear fur, however mostly as lining or as an accent to their clothing. And it was mostly aesthetic, so I doubt it was used in combat.
Maybe if they were traveling throughout cold/harsh climates they would need fur, but wearing on your shoulders OVER your armor completely defeats the purpose. If they were going to wear fur, like Shad said, they would wear UNDERNEATH the armor. But unless you are talking the most northern parts of England, I highly doubt you will need fur to keep yourself warm. You would probably only need some simple wool clothing considering England’s climate during the time.
Fur on the outside would intimidate enemies. Imagine this you go to war and your enemies have bear furs around there shoulders or wolf furs it would scare you and also the fur could possibly give more armour but that is a stretched idea.
It would have been used in combat if it was cold
@@j.r.harris5090 if it was underneath the armor how would you remove it if it became to hot or cumbersome under the exertion of battle?
Trailer: “they are..”
Shad: ok, this is interesting
I thought you were exaggerating but then I got to that point in the video lmao
Dear Shad,
You probably won't see this but the bad guy appears to be Alfred the Great per the letter. So 886 to 899 timeline.
alfred the great as the bad guy you are joking right?
@@thesmilinggun-knight9646 i know its weird, Alfred was one of the greatest Kings ever, as per 'The Last Kingdom'
UNSC PANDORA it even worse when you look at part of the trailer when the main character encounters a mother and her children and the guy beside the player character is about to kill them but stop him and let’s the family go, couple problems here first being no a typical Viking would have raped the mother and kill or enslave her children now there may have been merciful Vikings but they would have been a severe Minority and most vikings would probably regard them as weaklings which moves to my Second problem that is why is the main character there at all if he has such a problem with raiding villages and what in hell’s name does he think his follow Norseman are doing while they attacking the town.
Are you fucking kidding me...
@@thesmilinggun-knight9646 You realise Vikings were people right? They had morals and ethics like people have for the entirety of the human race. There would have been plenty who were against raping, enslaving, and/or killing innocents for many of the same reasons those things are considered war crimes in the modern day. Sure plenty of them might have done that, but saying that those who chose not to would have been minorities and treated badly for it is ridiculous.
Is no one going to talk about how the knight was completely unaffected by having a sword shoved through his leg?
Like seriously he doesn't even limp slightly just tore it out and walked normally
Because he is tough, obviously. Only weak people get hindered by a sword in the leg
Yumidori Iro lol
I used to be an adventure like you until I took an sword to the knee... wait nevermind as long as it's not an arrow I'm fine. *Takes hidden blade to brain*
He still has two life bars left, dw
"'Tis but a scratch! I've had worse!"
"Which period are they focusing on? 8, 9, 10, or 11 century? Or even later?"
"Yes"
It almost looks to me like the Vikings are fighting Byzantines, not the English.
That actually makes pretty good sense
The General Chairman finally someone else said it lol
Did english kings even used a double-headed eagle?
Gold cross with disc and eagle are Byzantium symbols.
Kirils Kozelcevs Don’t think so, in any case it makes no sense since the symbol of the kingdom of Wessex was a wyvern (dragon)
Vikings vs Byzantines? I thought it was cavemen vs Byzantines with all the fur.
*Shad:* "Cliche stereotypical fantasy bullcrap Vikings."
*Me:* Well. . . at least they didn't have horned helmets.
*Shad:* We haven't even seen them wear helmets yet.
*Me:* . . . crap.
And the "Odin is with us!" Odin had two ravens, Hugin and Munin (Thought and Memory) who traveled the realms and reported back to him all the goings on. So seeing a raven could be construed as an omen, that Odin's got his eye on you, and things will play out the way he wants (which is no guarantee he's on your side, mind you. . . Odin's very much a "long-game" kind of fellow).
Erik Bjelke ravens a merge from the trees afterwards... he sees a man watching the man dissapears and the ravens fly out of the tree as if he had transformed into the ravens which is pretty reasonable I guess
Only problem there is, Odin doesn't transform into a raven. And seeing him on the battlefield shouldn't be good, since he's the bringer of death.
If Tyr would've been there instead, it would be more accurate, but it wouldn't give the same visual effect I guess.
@@Schmorgus yeah and while odin is the head of the Aesir, he doesn't occupy the same leadership role as others like Zeus/Jupiter.
@@Schmorgus I mean if he was the bringer of death what if it was an Omen that the king would die on the battlefield?
I thought he had 51 in Midgard alone.
I bet for the most part, if they were to depict vikings with historically correct armor and clothing, most people would not realize they were vikings. But I honestly would love to see that changed. I do like fantasy viking armor. I think it looks awesome. But at the same time, we are glorifying vikings based on lies xD
well put it THIS way: They know what people WANT to buy. So they sell it to them.
If they used the Anglo-Saxon helmet people would know. Very iconic viking helmet despite being of non- nordic design.
Its fantasy not lies what are you talking about lol?
they didn't iven used acurate Egyptian and Greek equipment
100% behind this comment; you're absolutely correct. This is the only reason for this decision.
Shad: Kite Shields!! Must be the Norman period.
Me (with hindsight): a bit to much trust that Ubisoft gives a damn about time period
Game exc "Let's put more leather and fur in the game."
Game developers "how much?"
Game exc "all of it."
Shad Fact: When Shad goes sun bathing, he tends to swim in the convection zone.
Clever joke, took me a second to get.
Sun is gething a Shad bathing.
This is a great fan channel
shad fact: this is shad's side account where he just praises himself
My favourite so far. You touched my physicist heart.
New Assassin's Creed game: **takes place in the viking era**
Shadiversity: I'm gonna stop you right there
Me who has been waiting for this game: Shad no
Shadiversity: Shad yes
BREAKING NEWS!!: Grown man with no historic study background makes a desperate 44 min video about how triggered he is over a TRAILER OF A VIDEO GAME!. 2020 everyone, can we as humanity can get even more pettier and pathetic? Tune in next time for another GROWN MAN GETS TRIGGERED OVER RANDOM STUFF REPORT!
I love Shad's inability to watch a straight 10 seconds of the video without commenting on a fault haha
Imagine being a random lost old man and you find yourself in the middle of a battle, as you're trying to hide next to a tree you see the leader of one of the armies look at you like you're darn ghost or some crap, so you quickly hide behind the tree and accidentally scare a bird out of the tree and then you hear "Odin is with us!"
Pfffft! Hahaha
This comment 😂😂😂 thank you needed a good laugh after he tore my excitement for this game in half
It's Norse symbolism, apparently Odin can take the form of an old man and a bird. So mr viking boss man knew it was Odin
in Norse mythology, Odin constantly shows up to people as an old man, he's more of a trickster archetype than a war god. he almost always goes out disguised as someone else in all his myths.
FistPumpin_Dragn Yh he’s a boring fucker seriously put a downer on this game for me😂won’t be watching him again before a historical game releases
I love him saying "Vikings weren't any nastier than other countries, everyone did it. They were just better at it."
He is correct. Only thing is Vikings were better at raiding. The ships were perfect and the gear.
Vikings were high tier raiders and medium tier " Conquers " or whatever.
They could easily raid a village before anyone had a chance to counter them. Even the shields were perfect for it.
So they were nastier, by virtue of being better at war xD
Ivar The Boneless true, the boats were built using a method called clinker building, which allowed them to make the boats lighter, so they could take the boat overland if needed, and at the same time travel across oceans and rivers.
Didn’t know about the shields though, but it makes sense, due to the fact that the Vikings were specialized as raiders, why not specialize you’re equipment
As long as we can agree that the practices themselves weren't good.
Best "better at it" quote I've heard so far.
Me as a lover of fantasy: 'It's called artistic freedom, Shad!'
Me as a Dane: 'You tell them what is right, Shad!' 😂
Danmark er bedst c:
Yeah that's my Danish knowledge spent there.
@Pasha Staravoitau Real Vikings would have looked far from what you would consider badass. More Flamboyant.
@@7dayspking Not very flamboyant compared to today. It would probably also only be the norsemen back home and not the actual vikings who spent more time sailing and raiding.
@@Lichelf I would say quite flamboyant compared to today. We mostly wear plain and dark colours and our clothes are designed to emphasize our masculinity and often show a lot of skin like our arms.
Only the Vikings who did what? You think they designed unique 'savage' clothes for those who fought? Love to see evidence of that.
@@7dayspking savage clothes? You mean armor? Also implying a man looked feminine or liked men was considered abuse and could be retaliated against using violence. Bathing 3-4 times a week also isn't flamboyant.
"Right through him. Ah apparently he wasn't wearing leather armor" 😂🤣😂
I laughed so hard at that part
7:30 - 8:00 Actually one of the main reasons why vikings had such a bad reputation wasnt because of how successful they were but more so their lack of belief in Christianity coupled with the fact they often attacked Christian monasteries, perhaps intentionally leaving survivors in some cases to allow the monastery to rebuild and accumulate wealth. The monasteries often had a lot of wealth due to being apart of the church but also due to their ability to make paper, documents, and books. Naturally, since most of the people who could write at the time got constantly attacked and harassed by "godless heathens" they wrote a lot about how much they hated them.
How to flame people pre-internet
I mean, they also wrote that they were well groomed, soooo...
Also, I'd say it's rather fair to shit-talk people who raid, pillage, and murder you.
Mind the old
"Yes, we have been raiding, slaughtering and capturing slaves from each other for a long time now, but these Vikings dare to come here from god-knows-where and do it. That's not how it's done. They should stay where they are and do it to each other."
Keep in mind that I mentioned its mostly a "you're not of my religion and you're targeting monasteries" thing.
@@grayscribe1342 Do you realize how stupid that argument is, or do I need to explain it to you?
When the trailer said “godless barbarians” he said “there were actually some Vikings who were Christian” I hope you realize that that was the King of Wessex talking, he was trying to tell whoever he was talking to that they were evil. You obviously wouldn’t be telling your people that the enemy are pretty nice people when declaring war.
Watching the trailer beforehand instead of stopping it every 2 seconds would've helped with catching that
Yeah... with the constant pausing the point of the voice over gets lost.
Aethelred? Alfred? Edward?
Reminds me of a Quest in Witcher 2 where you replay the events of the big battle in the second act. A few soldiers are talking about the enemy and are like "My sister married a man from there, he's a really nice guy." and "I've been to the markets over there, good selection and good prices." and so forth until a commander hears them and is like "WTF IS THIS! EVERY LAST ONE IS A DIRTY DOG! NOW GO KILL THEM"
The Warden of the North I’m pretty sure it’s Alfred
Shadiversity stop making fun of his Ingot on a stick he's trying okay
XDDD
When you just picked out the ingot you want to forge into your weapon but the longships are about to set sail.
he's trying his best
That was the worst let down...
"Floof is the technical term." It comes from the Latin flufa, meaning silly frivolous decoration.
Any triple A company: makes historical game
Shad:*hold my ale*
I thought it was "hold my axe"
@@Xaiff
Pretty sure Shad don't drink ale, so axe most definitely: "Hold my appropriately time-period stylized axe. Not too thick, no tip decorations, and only one blade!"
Shad: *hold my pommel* precedes to throw pommel into the face of his opponent ending him rightly. 😏
Shad: hold my machicolations
@@Dragnfly_mynamewastaken ooo should of thought of that
I live in Denmark. I my home town we have this old viking ring fortress, where kids can come and live as vikings for a week in the summer. It's almost like a live museum where people dress and live as vikings the whole summer. I was there 2 years in a row, and I didn't see anybody wearing fur, or leather armor. The only clothing leather was used for was belts and shoes.
You're speaking about a Trelleborg, my friend. There are 9 known ones throughout Denmark and southern Sweden (former Denmark). They are believed to have been built by King Harald Bluetooth. May I ask what your hometown is? :)
@@hellstromarcus Excuse me, Bluetooth?
Sepulcher Yea, thats where the name for bluetooth comes from, it was the code name and the original name was something boring so they decided to go with the code name. The little bluetooth symbol is actually stacked runes, an h and a b. You should look it up, its pretty cool :)
Jeg er også dansker
I like that you set the tone straight on fur which yeah could have absolutely been used but not commonly non-fur protection is fully capable of looking badass but they just got to get the correct design for a video game
When your viking research only went as far as binge reading Hägar the Horrible.
Not too accurate, but a fun read :-)
What do you mean Ubisoft couldn't care less about historical accuracy beyond a quick Google search (if even)
@Vox Populi Considering the state of google right now, I wouldn't be surprised if all the results for "vikings" are related to that GoT knockoff
@@tahunuva4254 Yeah it's weird that you got a lot better results ten years ago. Look at Wikipedia, it used to be a decent enough source, now it's a freaking joke. And the Searchresults from other places such as google as you say, have surely taken a dive, mostly into paid promotions land.
My historic research went as far as playing CK'2...
Actually Shad is right, but wrong on the things that there hasn't been any finds. Most Norwegian historian agree that Vikings wouldn't use leather for armor. Also if you go to an play in Norway about Vikings. You are much more likely to see mail and an tunic.
The Broigne (leather coat of plates) does exist but 1: it's referenced very few times in the sagas and 2: very very few finds (I think maybe six total)
Shad: Can Scandinavian farmers be considered as Vikings? No, you’ll have to go on a Viking to be a Viking or be a Viking to be a Viking then you will be considered a Viking .
I ate in a Somewhat buffet style bar in Japan that they call Viking, does that make me Viking? XD, to explain better, any buffet they call it Viking, be it of only bread and salad and sauces like they had in many famires places or in others where they have meat and such, in Japan Viking is the word for Buffet, but i never heard of a veggie viking XD.
@@bernhardvonbarret1729 Check out "Lyle the Kindly Viking" then!
"We're Vikings! What do you know, the terrors of the sea!
We're Vikings! Sailing along, pillaging happily!
We're Vikings! Let there be no ambiguity!
For who doesn't like a pile of loot,
A sack full of gold, and a shiny suit,
and a giant big-screen TV to boot?
We're Vikings! The terrors of the sea!"
@DOOMSlayer vikings could be anyone. Any profession. All they have to do is grab a spear and board the ship. There's no need to sling insults and catholophobic comments
try to flip around the terms a bit
could a (regular) Norwegain be considered a Policeman? no, you'll have to (have to work as) a policeman to be a policeman or be a Policeman to be a Policeman, then you will be considered a Policeman
Viking in directly translated to english is raid/er
Blessings from iceland the frozen rock in the middle of nowhere
I mean... Its not only frozen, you also have some terrifying volcanoes :D
@@solaceixinera4015 And their names generates fear. The fear of tangling our tongues.
@ well eyjafjallajökull is an easy word
@@Avarus-Lux well iceland is pretty cold even tho greenland has more snow. We have bad weather most of the time
Shad: *Picks apart every single scene to try and date the period based on armor and weaponry*
Also Shad: *Completely misses the signature "Ælfred" (**15:20**) that dates it to within 2 decades (871-899)*
Me: ...Alright
yes he was going into a hissyfit cos of the leather armor. I was like look at the goddamn letter
literally paused that part to read the name.
@@user-ee9cz6mc1x I noticed that Shad tends to do that. He lets his biases and prejudices get the better of him which causes him to ignore and/or overlook lots of things as well as to go into the review with a negative opinion and looks for everything to support his negative opinion.
@@Riceball01 I mean, most of his negative opinion here is valid. There are conflicting visual cues as to the era, and he's primarily an arms and armor enthusiast, so that's where his focus was.
That means that this is even earlier than Shad was thinking, so it's actually even more inaccurate.
I'm fairly certain I'm not the only person that thinks that history is so much better without misconceptions and stereotypes.
If I remember correctly Odin has been often described as just appearing for help and encouragement looking like a wandering old man as he’s depicted here
Eh. . . not precisely. Odin is very much a "long-game" sort of guy. He would often appear in disguise, with a hood or a broad-brimmed hat to hide his one eye, but if "Odin the Wanderer" crossed your path, he was as likely to hinder you or just not give a crap as he was to help you out. Because helping you out might not be in the best interests of his long game, and he might want to hasten your trip to Valhalla to add you to the ranks of what amounts to his undead army.
he sometimes looks like a wizard in depictions
I believe that is Huginn or Muninn, crow massenger of Odin. The fur around his neck is not a fur but crow feather.
He is know as Vegtam the Wanderer in that form. Blue cloak, brimmed hat
Odin, the bringer of life, or death.
It would be bad seeing him on the battlefield.
A more logical God, would've been Tyr.
the idol statue is missing a hand so its most likely Tyr. If im correct then its really nice to see some other gods depictead than Thor, Oden and Loke
Norse would pray and sacrifice to Tyr before war, alongside Odin and Freya.
It is meant to be Odin, as confirmed by the Developer’s Cut version of the trailer that was released alongside this trailer.
I might be wrong but I remember reading that Tyr might have actually been an earlier version of Odin but was demoted to a lower deific role as Odin became more popular.
@@mountainking1166 It's a prevailing thought...not proven of course, but there's plenty who argue it as such.
@@ulfbjorn14 True enough. Its difficult to trace these things back. I'm not sure which was correct, but I always found it an interesting thought.
Ubisoft's logic: game is historically accurate because Vikings don't wear horned helmets...
I mean to be fair this is in the same universe as Gods pieces of Eden and the ability to deep dive into ancestral pasts using a fancy chair.
Bruh, this is a franchise where time travelling aliens use planet sized force fields, lazer guns and mind control tech to create humans. Even ignoring that stuff, AC has always "Glamourized" their settings
Ahmed Ali thank you! Finally someone with a brain. If these games were 100 percent historically accurate? They’d be very boring.
@@sethdelaat2471 I'd argue they'd be less boring
@@StalkinU Rarely
I've been binge-watching your videos for a few days now and I have learned an enormous amount about, well, everything. History. Food. Culture. Weaponry. Architecture. Combat. Such a wealth of content. Thank you so much.
“THAT’S A THICK AXE!” -Shad 2020
T H I C C*
size matters,
specially thickness
The fact that they're sieging a 13th century castle makes it even more ridiculous. Not to mention that the big boss guy is wearing 5th century roman armor.
There's a chance that he's a templar, which gives him some leeway for wacky armor. Also, I could be wrong, but the Welsh were still pretty Romanized at this point, yes? Could've been Welsh.
Its because King alfred the great visited rome and he became intrigued by it so he wanted to copy some of their stuff
It's probably supposed to be Byzantine.
Roman armour? Oh, a nostalgic chap...
Barokai Rein why does it matter? It’s a game. If every assassins creed game was 100 percent historically accurate it probably would be a little boring. They gotta make the game fun, not boring. Personally I love the Roman looking armor, I know a lot about history but this stuff doesn’t bother me at all, like I saw so many people in odyssey complaining that in one scene a spartan through his shield...so what? It’s a game. Not everything has to be history accurate.
WE DO KNOW THE TIME PERIOD!!
the letter is signed by the king “Alfred” this is Alfred the great (849-899) he is known for being a good king and stopping the vikings conquering Wessex and the rest of England. Pretty early Viking given that timeframe!
I was absolutely shocked that he missed this, it seemed so obvious. Good catch.
He was busy being upset about leather armor. XD
Right. So the kite shields are 100% anachronistic. So I guess they wanted to have a large visual difference between "danes" (actually norwegians in this case) and saxons. WHich leads to the saxons being time travellers and the danes not using helmets... great.
I noticed that too. Ita actually pretty obvious, that this is Alfred the Great.
@@scelonferdi well it's supposed to be a game. People would want variety, be able to tell the difference, have character between factions. Doesn't have to be a "historical simulator"
The image of the old man in the battle at 32:50 or so was Odin...who was said to travel in disguise as an old man in a cloak. You can tell by the two ravens...Odin's birds Huginn and Muninn, who flew away from the tree soon afterwards.
The whole trailer intro is meant to be ironic. When the dude says "they are heartless" it's a shot of a happy family. "they are godless" when everyone knows that vikings were believers of norse mythology and later some became christians.
I mean, the dude writing the letter is obviously trying to convince his allies that the vikings are cold blooded killers so he can fight Them and actually have a decent chance of winning. That's all
Also, this is said by the Christian King who was depicting their enemies, and in their eyes there was only one true god, and anyone who believed in Norse gods would - in the eyes of the English King - be godless as they didn't see norse gods as real gods. Yea it's kinda annoying when some people take things so literally without reading in between the lines, especially when it's so obvious as in this example.
@midgetydeath He did fail to christianize Iceland though. They banished him back to Norway in the year 999.
Yeah exactly as that is how the people of the time wrote about the Vikings. Always painting them worse than they probably were and themselves better than they were
I don't think anyone missed that
The Hypest shad did
Leather being used anywhere
Shadiversity
: TRIGGERED!!!!!
I think it's supposed to be splint mail though.
shake my computer screen bro
The most inaccurate thing in that trailer is England's weather: they depicted _England_ as sunny and warm. England, sunny and warm... those words don't go together.
EDIT: Just to be clear, I am joking. I am well aware that England sometimes is sunny.
We do get pretty decent weather...as Shad would say 'It's a common misconception and simply not true...okay'? Lol
@Admire Kashiri Same...we are supposed to be getting a heat wave next week. So suit up for all the complaints that its too hot...Lol
Is it actually britain though? Do we know that for sure? I mean, it could also be france.
Yes and no, in England they have a lot of cloudy days but they know sunny days as well although they don't really know what to do when they get really good weather.
I remember my vacation in England (Sussex, actually fissited Battle, the place were the battle of Hastings happened) in 2013 verry well, I was there for 2 weeks and in those weeks we had only 25°C+ and a cloud less sky. It can happen there but the only thing we heard on the radio were people talking about the extreme good weather and that you really have to protect your self with subprojection, especially baby's, it seemed like a couple had died because the there parents didn't protect them against the sun and left them for hours outside.
I myself come from the Netherlands, witch is also known for lots of rain, and we can have weeks without seeing the sun but for us it were just 2 good summer weeks while the English just kept talking about this extreme weather
@Admire Kashiri
I've lived in England my whole life what are these sunny and warm things you speak of I don't recognize those brands of tea?
Well I can see one real use for one volley of fire arrows in that situation, it would give you a chance to see the target you're aiming at through the fog when you start firing the next volleys of normal arrows, also it is slightly panic inducing to have fire coming at you.
Honestly it doesn't surprise me seeing the older armors with the newer, thats one of the problems of a feudal system with no standing armies is a lot of making due with what you have if you can't afford a ton of new armors made for your soldiers. Grandpas old Roman armor is still better then commoner wool armor alone.
fire arrows don't actually work in real life. The wind will just blow the fire out like a candle
*How to trigger Shad 101*
_Step 1_
- Firearrows
_Step 2_
- there is no Step 2
that's hot
@@blacknote6945 good one. Took me way to long... -_-
Shoot fire arrows from atop a wall that looks like it has machicolations, but actually doesn't because they're fake.
While wearing fur on top of leather armor.
@@_chew_ Hardened Leather or just leather clothing? :P
"I don't know that!" *is cast off the bridge into the Gorge of Eternal Peril* "AUUUUGHH!!!"
So, we changed the horned helmet stereotype for the no helmet stereotype... nice.
Closer, considering the fact that some vikings went into battle shirtless as an intimidation technique. Note, this could just be a myth.
@@fredchallenger5278 I haven't heard that for Vikings, Celts yes, naked and or shirtless.
still better than oversized horns and just fur armor :D
@@Deadly_fox512 the berserkers supposedly fought naked. But little is actually known about them. Is all conjecture
@@fredchallenger5278 Not closer and I'd love to see your evidence for that. The stereotypical horned helmet actually looks very similar to real 9th century helmets, just with horns.
We actually were given the time period that this is taking place. Look back at the scene where the antagonist king is writing the letter and look carefully at his signature and seal. The seal is the same as coin artifacts that have printed the visage of Alfred of Wessex. So our character is fighting against Alfred the Great.
So, what you're saying is that guy's supposed to be Alfred?
@@robertbarrass9176 I mean if we look at most popular depictions of Alfred it's pretty spot on.
@@tnatstrat7495 He looks pretty much like the actor from the Last Kingdom lol. I would not be surprised if Ubi actually hired him to do the cutscenes.
@@MrFallenone lol yeah
I am not too familiar with Viking history. So does this mean it is about the Saxon invasion of England or something?
I see this video attracted a lot of non-Shadders.