X-23 & Wolverine vs Sabretooth (Marvel Generations: The Best)
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Classic sabertooth has been alive as long as wolverine and has fought roughly in every war Logan has. That kinda battle experience with his sadistic nature, would ultimately give him the edge against the new wolverine.
Amazing Zero I completely agree with you. While Laura may have the edge in speed, Classic Sabertooth was an absolute BEAST! His savagery was the stuff of legend.
Trigger scent Laura would kill him (He wouldn't get a chance to touch her, Trigger scent Laura is Berserk Logan on speed!) but as her current state as Wolverine she wouldn't, no trigger scent and she doesn't kill.
Amazing Zero hahah
Wolverine hasn't been able to beat Sbaertooth beast to beast. It's been by using his head. Laura is much much better at that than he is.
Also, her approach to combat has shown time and again to be more effective than either of them. Wolverine and Sabertooth have been shown to be old thinking vs new. Throw in a beast that can't be killed and the target will likely die. Turns out if you throw in a professional killer with adamantium claws the target will die almost instantly. The only rub is can she incapacitate them before they take HER down.
In her initial fight with Wolverine she was dragging her claws through the dirt so his wounds had debree in them and took longer to heal. It was clever, as he actual bled enough to weaken, and that made her advantage all the greater as his senses dulled and his speed and strength dropped.
Would she win a straight fight against sabertooth? I think it would depend on the writer and the scenario. I think she could scare him TBH. He believes his way is the best, and getting dismantled by her could shake his beliefs to the core.
Ephemis Priest Sabertooth is smart though, I'd argue he'd eventually figure it out. Also wasn't X-23's and Wolverine's first fight staged or something? Like I remember Wolverine said he let her win, and then when they fought again he pretty much destroyed her in seconds. I kinda see it going down like that with classic sabertooth to be honest... It takes everything Wolverine has to defeat sabertooth, I honestly don't see her beating sabertooth without an adamantium skeletal system. Now the real question is would she be able to go up against feral Wolverine? When the adamantium was taken out of him? That Wolverine's healing factor was ridiculous...
Classic Wolverine is my favorite but I like x-23 as well so this was good
shadowstorm79mc jup for me2 it's soo much better than the Thor and FosterTheImposter bullcrap
X-Men Evolution anyone ,one of my favorite cartoons along with Batman:The Animated Series and Specular Spider-Man
Spoona Benson That was awesome
No doubt!
it was fine, I guess. I would put that and xmen the animated series below justice league and JLU
Spoona Benson never watched any of those cartoons.
X-23 and Harley Quinn, two characters that have gone on to outlive the Shows they were created for
Classic Sabertooth is a force of nature laying waste to all enemies. X-23 is fast powerful and equipped ... Sabertooth is too experienced, too ruthless and will kill everything and everybody in his path , I would even go as far as to say without the adamantium bonding process maybe even classic wolverine wouldn't be able to survive .
It would be a good fight. Without adamantium wolverine would have greater speed and his healing factor would no longer be hampered by fighting off adamantium poisoning.
"I'm the best there is at what I do. Bit maybe I can try to be better at this." Hit me right in the feels
I want to see a comic with Daken, Laura, and James(Jimmy) Hudson.
The claw gang.
That will be awesome.
@@mr.vansjohnson7469 half-brother sister gang.
Fang Family
Glad you included the scene with her saying I miss you. The emotion really jumps off the page. Great upload Rob
I really enjoyed this story. To my recollection, this hasn't happened very often. They fight each other, but there's rarely been this father daughter dynamic....and there SHOULD be!. We saw it with Kitty Pride, we saw it with Jubilee, but not with Laura Kinney. Here, we see them fight TOGETHER for a change, and there is a father-daughter moment here as well. I'd like to see more of that in the future 👍
Yeah, that was the second best part of it all for me. To me they seriously dropped the ball though when they ultimately decided to replace Wolverine with her. She should have been her own character, because literally the first two thirds of her run was about self discovery.
a Washington it's not his daughter. Just a clone of him
Did you read the X-23 solo series with her and Gambit? Her and Logan had some great moments in that one.
agreed
9:43 She's like me, very much like me.
You guys think they used this from the Logan movie? When Charles says, "she's like you, very much like you."
Your channel is one of the best things on TH-cam! Marvel should pay you for the amount of in depth work you do.
I liked it well enough. These videos are good because I wanted to know more about sabretooth as well. Thank you
This was my favorite of the Generations stories so far very well done and a fun read
Need more of this, always loved X-23 and Wolverine is among the few character I always loved. Wolverine, Hulk, Spiderman, Venom, Batman, MMH, Deathstroke, every Robin, the main people who got me interested in comics.
Classic Sabertooth wins
With or without adamantium
beautiful... cant wait to read the rest of the generations and legacy one shots... this is definitely shaping up to be awesome and cant wait to see the impact on the marvel universe....
That last panel was pretty emotional
I love this. I say use Mags to remove the adamantium encasing Logan, use Old Man Logan's DNA to reanimate Logan's body, and kick Mephisto's ass for Logan's soul until it's back in his body with his healing factor and everything.
Classic Wolverine is beast (Wolverine series 2 issue 51) after having some memory blocks removed, Wolverine fights in the dangeroom against all of his main advisories, and forge explains that wolverine is "It is the equivalent of an Olympic gymnast doing a gold medal routine while simultaneously beating four chess computers in his head.".... beast mode
I actually teared up a little bit reading the last few pages. It was kind of touching to see Laura just basically act her age and "normal".
Hope Marvel Generations and Marvel Legacy sparks some good changes in marvel comics and also hope they give use so time in between events
Spoona Benson as much as I would love to have the old universe back it does present the question what will be accomplished? at the end of the day if marvel generations does not put its own spin on something and is just a way of pleasing old fans it just make me read dc rebirth and give up on marvel
kingdigi 17 Same. I already jumped ship and pretty much caught up with the heroes I was interested in from DC. I honestly have no clue as to what Marvel is doing, but the last few years have been a bit of a disappointment, and I don't want anything to do with it anymore.
yea and by appealing to the older fans and not trying to appeal to all i feel as if it is a loss ANAD wasn't perfect by any means but there were some titles i did and were some pretty cool things like hydra captain america but by bringing back classic wolverine it actually angers because they killed two years put x-23 as wolverine and then just bring classic wolvering back its by appealing to the old fans which you alienate people who are open to new concept and just doing the same thing over and over. there is nothing more insulting then starting over and doing the things you did before
I really loved this issue it was pretty heartwarming at the end which I really liked
Very nice. Good job. I'd love to see an X-23 and Jubilee story. Also, I feel like the relationship that was brewing between marrow and Wolverine was wasted. Also the relationship between meltdown and Sabretooth. I just feel like more could have been done with both of those situations
Rob went over the X-23 and Jubilee story. It was a while ago though. Get to rummage through the playlists.
CornBreadtm I will! Thanks!
Loved this, more x23 Wolverine stories.
Quit slacking off with the videos Rob. You must be preparing to bombard us with plenty of great videos in the very near future.
Rob. This hit Home. Hard.
I’m a man with a hard past of anger and poverty where I had to give up a daughter for adoption.
I was reunited with that daughter 5 years ago.
She has a son. My grandson. She’s emotional like me. Angry like me. An artist like me. A rebel like me.
And I wish I could have all that lost time back.
Wow. This hit Home. It hurts.
Thanks Rob.
I have a little one, I'm a step father. So the humanity of X23 touched me quite a bit because these "heroes" at the end of the day, are just humans
X-23 looks very awsome in Venomverse comic i hope they will not going to kill her in the comic she has great character
She-Venom She'd kick your ass
she is indeed a very crappy character, she's just a shitty rip off of wolverine
pastorinasse
ummmmm...... shes a clone of logan.
theyre obviously gonna be similar.
try reading a comic before u make claims.
(and if u already knew this, that just makes your original comment even dumber)
She-Venom Shes good but your better 😀👍
they wont since they introduced her into the movie universe.....
He ain't dead no more
Pretty sure he is
Social_Oddities Nope Marvel Legacy #1 shows Wolverine alive and with an Infinity Stone
Well fuck me sideways that's cool but at the same time kinda alarming
wazza1040 Are you sure it wasn't Old Man Logan?
wazza1040 damn
Waiting for X-23 in more movies
The first fight between Logan and X-23 was an act on the part of the feral Muties. That's why people have the misconception of Laura being faster than Logan. It was purposely done and also it was explained. X-23's character was the first ever to start off as a cartoon on TV to be introduced into the comics because of her TV popularity.
love when there is much character development, even though classic wolverine is dead, they still found a way to use him without reviving him
As a dad to a lil X-23 myself this pulls at all the feels. Great story, gonna go pick this story arc up.
Rob it could be cool if you could cover a Daken vs X-23 what if type vid or at least some more Daken origins stories.
This seems to be one of the best ones yet!
Man this video was a fun ride and made me nostalgic for all those Wolverine and Sabretooth stories. Id love to hear you talk about some of those. Also I’m probably like, the only fan of Sabretooth’s “sidekick” Birdy. Man her fate was so unfair and cruel. Anyway great job, this video really made my day!
Hey rob, I've been following x 23 for a long time. As well as Logan and the x men. I also grew up on x men evolution. So when this issue came out and she finally got to say goodbye it hit me in the feels hard cause ur right Logan always kinda kept her at arms length in a way. Logan may be back now, it might take a bit cause I don't think marvel has any book for him listed just yet. But I would like a book of the two of them hanging or shit him somehow showing up in Laura's current book to work this shit out some more cause Tom Taylor truly does get their relationship and history. I definitely don't wanna Laura to go back to sporting skimpy costumes she's doesn't have to remain the wolverine but a new name or at least a new costume for sure. As for who would win her or sabertooth. I agree with u classic saber tooth most likely if their in a dessert and there's no way for her to use her wits and some sort of tech to win lol. Without the skeleton it leaves her vulnerable to a lot it's a reason y I prefer her cause she can be incapacitated pretty easily unlike Logan. Gives a bit more tension to her fights and she can't really make any huge mistakes.
This just made me realize how much I miss classic wolverine. Rob do you think there is any chance of him coming back? I don't think X-23 should lose her mantle or anything but I wouldn't mind seeing him return.
Lyle Taylor he already did in legacy #1
Sinester Syndicate really?! I'm not caught up then but ill have to check it out.
When Rob sneaks in the subtle Destiny 2 music in there.
I always enjoy comics with a good story behind it and something emotional. Most things are just not worth reading anymore with how often things change. you'd get use to something then its a reboot then while you get use to that and then there's another crisis moment or reboot there hasnt been anything solid with a good emotional attachment in a while other than i guess superman and his son but i like this story with Laura and James(logan)
X-23 is one of my favorite Marvel characters. Seriously! That final panel was too good.
That D2 music in the background is soooo good!
Great video as always bruh!
This was very touching, I liked it quite a bit.
Gotta love that Destiny 2 ost playing in the background near the end. It's called "Journey" if anyone's wondering.
That Destiny 2 score in the back tho!! 😀 great choice for music.
1v1, no holds bar, I gotta give it to my boy V.Creed. He's got speed and strength that allows him to best Logan on a rare occasion; that with his 100+ years a savage violence, military tactics, and honed animal instincts
Yesss Rob! Glad you're doing some Generations stuff!
Great video, Rob!!!
Love the Destiny music in the background, man! Keep up the great work!
Love X-23. I dig the story here for her. Her current book as Wolverine is great and she is one of my favorite Marvel characters.
This was awesome
Loved it went back to the storyline with Akiko and seeing X-23 get to finally say goodbye to her father was really well done.
Awesome video.
Also, Rob Corps, there is a comic out there to help with the efforts in Puerto Rico called La Borinqueña, it premier's soon, New York Comic-Con I want to say. 100% of sales go to the relief effort.
If X-23 was cloned from Logan, shouldn't she be hairy as hell? lol
Did you miss the part where she's female? I assume not since you actually typed it
Women can’t be hairy....
@@houseadams4841 HAHA oh man i haven't seen/read something that stupid since someone said they thought chocolate milk came from black cows
This section (corrects person)---(then proceeds to insult)---(insecurity hidden)
Nice vid Rob. The original story name was "Dragons in Love", In which a dragon in Japan wanted to mate with Lockheed, Kitty's dragon from the Brood War storyline.
Big fan bro !!
Love the Destiny 2 soundtrack playing in the background
Hey rob loved this keep up the gppd work!
Is it bad I could pick out the destiny 2 music near the end?
Calum 'Cbo' Bober I was looking thru the comments to see if anyone else noticed as well lol
Calum 'Cbo' Bober That beautiful music can't escape us boi
he can't hid epicness man
Lol yeah I wondered as well. It actually fit in the emotional part of the video
I heard that as well, tho I'm still looking for an original vid or something with that exact song
Salute to Rob with the Destiny 2 soundtrack playing in the background. Best video game soundtrack in a long time
i absolutely love X23 and the wolverine dynamic!!
That Destiny 2 music in the back. perfect.
I think James tries to hold back his emotions to much and this is a good way to show how truly human he is
I think she can take him. At end of the day Sabortooth is a animal. X-23 is a trained assassin. She's fought her fair share of crazys.
Cool stuff!
the estranged parent dynamic is a good tool, young justice , superboy-superman
Im loving the Sabretooth content
An amazing wolverine story. Loved it
This is a feels comic
X23 has been one of my favorite characters since she was introduced, so to get to go through this comic and this closure, is awesome
The art style is amazing
This was definitely one of the better generations issues. This, Captain America and Spider-Man are the best generation stories
loved it Rob.
I just love X-23 so goddamn much, comics and movie. Especially the movie, I could watch that little girl screaming and murdering things for hours. I just love that she's such a different person from Wolverine, but she still maintains those characteristics that make Wolverine such a terrifying badass. That no-bullshit attitude, the whole "You're not an animal" character arc, and that raw ferocity that no other superhero in comics can match.
Classic Sabretooth would win. He is entirely capable of ripping Laura's head off. If that happened. No Laura.. and Laura would hesitate on cutting his head off, that would be all it takes for Creed to take advantage of her 'weakness'. Also, makes me wonder how Laura is going to react to find out that her Father is alive again.. the only person who seems to know is time displaced young jean grey.
Snake3169 didn't saber tooth survive decapitation once along with Logan
Definitely one of the better stories. I mean i love seeing Wolverine slash people up as much as the next person and x-23 will always be my one true love as far as female comic book characters but i love seeing the softer side of heroes especially dealing with family ties or children because i feel like it lets a little bit of reality in. Its always nice to escape into a world of comic books where super heroes are as common as military soldiers but every once in a while, i love when a little reality is breathed into comics and a story like this comes out if it. Loved it.
I hope we get some nice moments between the two of them now that he's back. Really hope marvel doesn't force her to obscurity.
daniel dragotti I would be infuriated if they did that to her after all they did with her.
I didn't think I was going to like this story but it hit all the right notes for me.
So I guess marvel is really set on pushing on these replaement characters with these legacy books.
Nothing against characters like X23 and miles but I really wish that marvel can treat their older characters like peter parker and thor with respect again.
They call me Jojo they have for years. at some point you gotta do something different, and with change you're gonna piss a lot of people off. fuck 'em I say. change is inevitable, and doesn't come in the form that we each, individually, want or dream.
Everyone of these shit generation books did nothing but disrespect the older characters. It seems like they wont learn form there mistakes. Hopefully another sales dip will do it.
Janzer
No they haven't, changed is fine. I'm not against change, but make it make sense.
They've pissed me off since they broke up Spider-Man marriage. They didn't know how to continue his story as a family man.
That's not change, that's going back, NOT FORWARD.
Captain Marvel made sense, we all knew eventually with how she got her powers, she was gonna replace the original.
Female Thor was lazy, her stories are ok, but how she became Thor and how og Thor lost the hammer was bull.
Miles makes more sense. They just need to let him develop more.
Cho as hulk makes sense for the same reason X 23 does.
Iceman gay? Nope not trying to hear that bs.
But it doesn't work. You can't write horrible stories staring bad copies as Marvel have done and think it'll stick.
Marvel Comics is doing horrible, like 90's 'we must sell off the movie rights' bad. They really need to start publishing comics people want to buy again and one step is to write about characters that are liked.
I'm not saying new characters are bad, not at all. I'm all for that unless they are copies of allready existing characters.
Weird to hate them though when they are the comic book reading base. Who comes up with a business plan to alienate the base of there customers??
Rob! I love your channel and the way you tell these comics in more depth and explore the details the writers where trying to portray in them! But more than that... I love your editing SKILLS BRO! Your use of destiny 2's sound track (I know you used track 11: journey!) Was a nice little easter egg (wishful thinking maybe?) For people that play that game! I hope your playing it and enjoying it as much as I am! Thx for being awesome man.... PEACE.
Wolverine's So Short
IT'S SO ADORABLE
Hey man, I really enjoyed this one. The part with Laura living vicariously through the young girl got me right in the feels. Good job
That story reminds me of the good ole days.
"she's like me...very much like me" nice logan reference..
I cried a little at the end of this.
Wolverine family and comics were big between me and my dad.
Might go out and buy this tomorrow
This was very enjoyable
This was fantastic
X-23 would win. Logan is a pure soldier, training in a huge number of combat situations and wars but as you've said Rob, he's far more a brawler than anything else. Sabretooth IS a brawler, an animal, whereas X-23 was trained from day one to be a killer. It's even said in this comic how Laura doesn't waste any action. If she gave herself over to the training then it's far more likely Laura wins unless Creed either gets lucky or simply overpowers her.
I'm going to start a wolverine cross with heihachi mishima fan theory. I think heihachi is a descendant of Logan. The hair+ Asian descendants= reason why heihachi can survive stuff a normal man can't. What do you think?
Thanks for the video today sir, and as a reader I tend to appreciate character development, but regardless of what it is, I'll watch your content.
OMG THE DESTINY 2 MUSIC!!!
GamerX 7712 is it in the beginning or end
I see classic Sabertooth winning, just like classic Wolverine if he was fighting to kill. Glad they are bringing back classic Wolverine. Doesn't necessarily mean they need to get rid of X-23 but it was idiotic to get rid of him in the first place.
I liked this better than supergirl.
More!!! Love this Rob. Keep up the great work. As a dude with lots of pappy issues, laura hits home. Wolverine is my absolute favorite marvel character, my ex gifted me the death of wolverine, most bitter sweet gift ever
Lol that Destiny 2 music, its saving grace.
I like X-23, I really do. But, I want classic Wolverine back. I don't care if he was more of a brute. That's what I liked about the character. I wish Marvel understood, that I don't care if X-23 is better, stronger, faster. It's Logan's imperfection that I liked. Stop trying to shove X-23 down my throat and tell me if I don't like it too bad. She's a great character, she can stand on her own. Logan and Laura can exist along side each other.
This was a good one for sure.
X23 was confirmed to be his true daughter in the AOA 10 year anniversary.
Rob, cover the Marvel Legacy One-shot because that comic raises a lot of questions I hope you could answer to a degree...
OMG FINALLY FILLER FOR THE NEW superheroes that are too out there and unknown
I like Marvel with clasical stories you should do more of them
I love this video content- nice.