My buddy bought a 1964 Dodge 426 Hemi from the local dealer here in Marine City, Michigan. Dealership owner went right down and watched the car come down the assembly line to make sure the Hemi and driveline got installed. There were no Street Hemis at that time. 13.5 to 1 compression with the famous crossram. Cost my friend $1,000 for street insurance and another $1,000 strip insurance to get a loan. We lived near Motor City Dragway and damn near lived there back then. Fun times. I still have about 20 minutes of movies from there. Al "The Lawman" Extrand, Little Red Wagon, Connie Calitta, etc. What a great era. 👍🤘✌️🖖🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
1. I wonder how many of those 4 door Novas have been found, had the 427 pulled and then scrapped because "it's a 4 door" 2. That is one of the most beautiful cars I've ever seen, you're right the proportions are perfect. 3. "Acid dipped to paper thin" that sounds super sketchy and awesome.
I worked for Bud Fauble here in Chambersburg Pa. in the late 90's. What a guy!!!! Car dealership owner, Chrysler test driver, nationally known drag racer and in my opinion an outstanding human being and the best boss I ever worked for. Piloted chartered aircraft long after commercial pilots hung their wings also. Riding with him driving on I81 at 90 mph while he regailed us with flying and racing stories and feeling as relaxed and safe as if I was sitting in my recliner at home. I will always regard him with great fondness and respect. Last but not least , keep this videos coming Uncle.
This video makes me wish I was born at least eight years earleir! (was born in 1953) My older brother (born in 1943) & he Loved' the altered wheelbase cars. Me? not so much but since then I have come to appreciate what effort and tech went into constructing theses cars. As far as acid dipping, Jimmy Adison's Silver Bullet (street racer) was supposedly acid dipped & had fiberglass trunk lid, doors, complete front end & front bumper. A friend on mine Al was the guy who bought Addison's GTX for $5,000.00 I was there when he did! (I ended up with the rolling chassis and then went briefly Insane' and traded it away! Grrrrr' And Addison started building a Duster, acid dipped (of course) so much so that the body had holes in it! Never saw it finished....Thanx Tony for this video. Brought back memories of actually riding IN the Silver Bullet and being in it when All pulled a BIG wheelstand over by his old high school!
First car I got to wipe and shine on was Bill Jarrett's "Tia Juana Taxie" My first exposure to nitro. Thanks for stirring up some of my old memories. Love those old altered wheelbase care back then. Really took some ball to drive one. Thanks again Tony.
I don't think I've ever learned so much in so little time then I have from Uncle Tony and and this goes back 33 years ago from the Cars Illustrated days
I was a kid in Phoenix when all this was going on. The AHRA was pretty wide open and all of these crazy cars for that era were showing up at Beeline Dragway. My dad and I would go out there from '63 when I was 14 to '66 when I went into the Marines. I was actually at the '65 Winter Championships and got to see all those cars run. It was great! It changed my freaking life! What a privilege it was to witness that. Nothing like that will ever happen again.
Im am so loving your channel, hate that I never found you till last night, but your one of those guys I love to sit in a shop and just absorb the years of knowledge. Never stop!
I got the chance to see a homemade altered wheelbase car take a couple passes on the strip a few years back and I gotta tell ya, the car is badass looking and wicked fast but it looked like one of the scariest cars to get behind the wheel of. Definitely an awesome part of drag racing history!
Hey UT, all these videos bring back Cool memories! Back when people built their own cars - when we were fast it was because we built our OWN cars, did our homework, made our own parts/modified others, we did it on our own. The cars were simpler, we raced for fun, an winning meant were were King of the street - at least until someone else stepped up and then we stepped up higher!. BUILT NOT BOUGHT! Aces UT!!!!!
And complacent taxpayers funded 9/11 and never broke the hypnosis in mass to this day. EVERYTHING the mainstream news says to us is a lie. A "Fake" independent YT news channel released the Epstein leaked tape. But all mainstream news said he DID kill himself. ALL MAINSTREAM NEWS NETWORKS LIED.
Uncle is no doubt the mopar historian hands down . Pretty crazy what they could get away with back in the day . Those days are long gone and will never happen again . Thanks for sharing . Cheers
Tony, you are a standout gem in the crowd of talent here on TH-cam, and in our auto hobby specifically. I can listen and watch for hours, and grateful for the Sunday night marathons. Thanks !
I just want to say I love ur videos. I lean toward some of the Ford stuff but I'm a mud runner were my fords are at home. I love them all though and I love hearing about the history And the technical stuff about the engines
I was in the Holman and moody facility as a little boy in the mid 80s it was filled with toys from the et movie that never got released. My dad bought 427 sohc sodium filled valves out of a large crate for a dollar a piece.
Thank you, UT. Amazing times back then. A couple of years ago I saw something akin to this at Fords at Carlisle weekend. I’ve been around thousands and thousands of cars, and there were more than a few Thunderbolts there, but this one special 427 Fairlane had THE craziest engine / exhaust sound I’ve encountered in my life. That car was a war machine. Glad to see you feature these Mopar examples of craziness
I had the fortune of being in the right place at what was definitely the right time. I started racing my M/stock '50 Oldsmobile at Lions in 1964. I had seen Tommy Grove's "Melrose Missile" win at Pomona in '62. I became hooked on Chrysler products. Hayden Proffitt's "It's a Hemi" car and Bill Rieck's "Quarterbender" ruled Lions. And then along came Dick Landy. What a time. A/GS cars like Stone Woods and Cook, Big John Mazmanian, Altheizer, Finders and Kibler and K.S. Pittman were at Lions most every Sunday. By 1967 I had a '63 Dodge 426 Stage 2 car which like a fool I later sold. BTW "Spoiler Alert" I was at Irwindale (AHRA) when Nicholson's Fiberglass Comet body flew off on it's first run.
Great history lesson. Other than the wheelbase mod itself, I've never known much about these cars. They were more complex than I realized. Certainly never noticed the sedan doors. I've been wrenching on Mopars for close to 30 years and still learn stuff from this channel all the time.
You are the only guy i know of that talks about this kind of stuff , the things they did with cars that were behind closed doors or the race experiments they did , the cars that were made all the test mules. It is very cool. Dodge / Chrysler along with ford did some odd stuff.
I was at Detroit Dragway in 65 when the Ramchargers and Color Me Gone showed up with there altered wheelbase fuel injected cars. They were amazing. Both pulling the front wheels off the ground. I was 17 at the time. The Ramchargers were my all time favorite.
Tony: All your videos are interesting and informative. But this one takes the cake. I never knew about this stuff though I lived through this era (I was 19 in '65). Thanks so much!
Uncle Tony, I love all your videos, the AFXers are my favorite cars of sixties drag racing, I'm watching the Truck AFX video right now - keep up the good work! Jim
Mopar Muscle Magazine released an article about the A/FX cars a couple months ago. I love hearing about these cause my Great Uncle is Bob Harrop, who actually drove one of them, in the article his name is mentioned in the same sentence as Dick Landy, which was absolutely insane for me to read.
Wow Bob Harrop of the flying carpet fame? I have a video of him wrecking his 65 awb coronet at Cecil county. I never heard anything else about him really after that.
Uncle Tony, you are so interesting! Whenever you speak I'm drawn in by your knowledge, and your easily understood way of giving it to us. Thank you for this channel and sharing all that you offer.
I read that Dick Landy started the altered wheel base by sneaking it in by gradually moving the wheels forward a couple inches at a time until NHRA noticed it and stopped it. The term “funny car” was coined from these. I live next to Steve Magnate who has a nice replica.
The amount of information stuck in your head never ceases to amaze me! Keep on letting it flow UT, there are to few guys like you left, and tons of us out here that thirst for your knowledge.
Those were the days huh? !!! Rocket in the can anyone? I heard the kit came with a shoehorn too,so you can get your eyeballs back out of your spine and into their sockets where they belonged! Lol wow,I'd love to drive 1 of those beautys! Thanks again guys&gal!!! ▪☆☆☆▪
I have a personal connection to the altered wheelbase Mustangs. My parents were friends with the Holmans and the Moodys. My father was president of Columbia Car Corporation. They built fiberglass body golf carts and Scorpion class sailboats. They designed and built the fiberglass molds and made the first couple of the flip fronts of the Mustangs. The molds were transferred to H&M who made the rest of the front ends of the altered Mustangs.
Pure awsome. Great info. My dad was in a club called H"oosier Mopar Association". I remember a husband and wife team that both had one of these cars. His was red. Hers was white. Those cars were like fire breathing dragons to me, when I was young
Belvedere x hemi x drag pipes that was a fast car. I raced at national speedway in long island n.y. 1970 to 1973 was the days to race. We had real race cars on the streets
Great video Uncle Tony ... my grandpa and great uncles had one of the factory afx cars ... originally campaigned by the Micissin bros. (Unshure on spelling) .... supposedly it is still around albeit a bit modernized .... I have pics from late 67 when they bought it along with some literature on how to jet a hemi with 50% nitro ... dated 1966 from chrysler
Thats amazing! I've had an interest in the early years of drag racing too. I thought, it was one of these cars, that when the hp got to 900, the guys said , look we got to sit in the middle of the car to handle this thing! I remember the Melrose Missel also, was a Ford though. Great channel UTG!
Ahhhhhh!!! The memories...here in Northwest Indiana. The radio commercials. Sunday, Sunday at beautiful US 30 Dragstrip! Come see the Chi Town Hustler, vs Don "the Snake" Prudome, see the Green Hornet burn up the track, watch the "Little Red Wagon" do quarter mile wheel stands. Sunday, Sunday at beautiful US 30 Dragstrip, Where the Great Ones Run, run, run. Ahhhhhh! Just to see it one more time......
I subscribed last month, so I must have put Tony over the top. Do I get an award? Speaking of blondes, I met Linda Vaughn in the 80's, and my jealous ex wife threw out the picture. Broke my heart!
My girlfriend's dad from back in the day has one of these chassis. There's some controversy over if its a kit or on, but it does have the fiberglass dash and rear window supports. It also was acid dipped and paper thin. It's been ages since I've talked to him but for years it was something he kept a secret. Part of why he kept it a secret was he almost cut it up for parts because it was so rusty. But thankfully some digging around on the net in the early days kept him from cutting it to bits. Anyway the last I heard a few years ago was he had it dipped and primed to stop the rust.
We had Dave Stricklers original awb coronet at the museum i volunteer at, Eastern Museum of Motor Racing in York Springs PA, two years ago. I sure do miss that car. The talk about paper think quarters is no joke. We had to be extremely careful where we pushed on the car to move it. Nick Smith owned the car at the time and we had it on loan to us for a year and a half. A week after it was picked up from the museum, it was sold at Mecum. We also had Faubel's awb as well. A local collector to us currently owns it.
Hey Tony, I remember when the Funny Cars first came out. I'm not sure but I think it was a Sox & Martin car that I first saw. Everyone was saying that they were ugly but I thought they were cool, but I was only like 12 at the time. lol Very cool video, I love your old history videos. Thanks bro. Later
these are so cool...It makes me happy that mopar and gm have gone back to the old school with all the new Demon's, hellcat and redeye...GM put out The factory copo drag car and the new ZL1 camaro's are mean machines...Its nice to see legit muscle being produced once again!
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I was 10 at the time knew nothing about cars and loved everything about drag racing. I remember these cars from models, mags and tv. Your insights are really interesting. Seeing that injected Hemi gets the blood boiling today as it did then. No one talks of this stuff any more, thanks-TM
Great drag racing cultural history Tony. There's a guy named John Munford in South San Francisco. I saw his collection a 110 cars. The Collection was better than Harrah's . That's where I first met ultralights. Pontiac super duty. He had a Chevy Black Widow. Verticals in Ford Roadster pickups. He even had Claire Ford's first car. Alecart with all of the providence. The first Mercury that George Barris ever chopped. I spent four hours with three friends looking at his collection and didn't see it all. Estimated at over 22 million dollars in 2004. He was into the ultra lights. Is Flathead manifold collection that washed valued at over $50,000. Carburetor setups, fuel injection setups, blower setups, Stuff I didn't know you could get for Ford flat heads. The engine room was out of sight too. Small blocks with hilborn injection, All aluminum Chevy Big Blocks, A Ford cammer, it was like walking around a candy shop. David Catalini, Roy Brizio's right hand man at Brizio Speed Shop in South San Francisco takes care of the collection for John Mumford. He has 3 of the six 62 409 bubble tops. They have aluminum front ends. So did the Pontiac ultralight Super Duties. His collection is pristine. Stored in industrial buildings that are clean as an operating room. The Collection totally blew my mind. Verticals in Vets, verticals in GTOs, 14 32 Fords, one that was stuffed with a 2x4 409, the louvers on the sides of the hood covers were modified to go around the exhaust manifolds. The interior echoed the Impala the running gear came out of, and it was all done expertly at the high end of custom. Including the dash. When you enter Roy Brizio's shop he has a small block dragster hanging on the wall. Roy Brizio, and Boyd Coddington, two trendsetters in California Street Rodding. restorations, rods, and resto-rods. Also check out Aaron Johnson at Badass racing engines and cars in Sonoma California. Car freaks!
I know an old Mopar Super Stock driver named Dave Wren. Cool old guy. He has at least 80 old Mopars around his property, and all his old Hemi cars inside the buildings.
Lee smith wasn't doing well against the big boys, but in 65 at the world series of drag racing at Cordova, Mr. Norm's car wouldn't shut down at the end of the strip, and they floated some valves on their brand new hemi, so they were out. Tommy Grove's melrose missile kept blowing rear ends, so he was out as well. On the final run for all the marbles in SS it was Lee Smith against the Tom Coward comet, who hole shotted Smith off the line, but agonizingly slowly, Smith reeled him in with an 11.21 et, and 122 mph to win the SS crown, and the crowd hooted and hollered for a good ten minutes after that showing. It was the quickest et of his career. Mopar rewarded him with an altered wheelbase hemi, which you showed in your video. But kinda like Bud Fauble, he just couldn't compete with the top dogs after that. Enjoyed your video, and your channel. You're a fount of knowledge about mopars. You know--- if I had some of the cars back that I owned then, I'd be pretty wealthy right now. 57 Fury. Factory dual quads. Stick. $350.00 57 Olds holiday 88 rag top. $295.00 59 Chrysler 300E paid $295.sold $295. 60 Chrysler 300F. Sold for $400 65 Dodge dart gt ragtop. Paid $30.00. Had some front end damage. Wife creamed it into utter destruction. And on and on with Cudas, Chargers, and a plethora of beautiful , now collector cars worth a fortune. But: I drove and enjoyed each one viscerally. You see them now and they're mostly trailer queens. Pampered, waxed, fussed over and almost never driven. Something came over me where I just wanted to share. Michael
Saw one those in Hemmings in the early 80's for 10 thousand cash about what I was making per year back then.I wanted that vehicle something bad. Thanks Tony.
I was always partial towards the "68" Cuda. Unfortunately, that particular build of 50 had a Vin tag that said, "Not for street use". A beautiful Hemi.
damn nascar and nhra for screwing things up, if they had just left factories and racers alone to do what they wanted, I can only imagine the mean machines that could have been....
I'd like to see that, too. I used to set 'em up and I wonder how much I forgot. Set up some Pete Jackson injection then and liked his take on injection.....a lot of people didn't. Crower had a good set up at the time and I think a fella can still get them.....I'm totally out of the scene so must live thru Uncle Tony...LOL! Damn early Corvette 283 injection used to drive guys nuts!
@@tomnekuda3818 I'd like to see that too. I knew a guy that ran a Hilborn setup on a high strung SBC. But I don't know if he ever had it setup right. It ran faster than a raped ape but the throttle was like a light switch. It only ran wide open or idle. Granted that's all he needed to get the job done,but I've always wanted to know more.
@@southjerseysound7340 From what I've seen mechanical fuel injection (except for the old Rochester FI ) is not for the street unless you were a very tolerant fellow. What you describe is what I've seen.
I saw photos of these back in the past, always intrigued me. The Chevy BelAir was popular with some people for having a whole lot of trunk and a lot of weight over the back end, although not as much as this one and way heavier.
Awesome stuff man. I'm always digging these historic Automotive stories you tell. It's like reading the stories in Hot Rod Magazine without actually having to sit there and read LOL. I really enjoy this channel, thank you for all that you do, and congrats on so many Subs my friend, keep up the great work
Back in the day, when cars were real MOPAR was the one! I remember them offering 3 different versions of the hemi for options, standard, hi performance and max performance. You order the max and the warranty stopped when the dealer handed you the keys, bad azz, lol......
I was a nerd about these altered wheelbase cars. I only saw them in magazines but they made a deep impression on me. I love the old Belvederes and the Polaras from that era. Seems like they dropped a lot of the classic names from that time- (Savoy) - right? I think I remember they had an altered Mustang with a stretched wheelbase..... kind of opposite of all the rest. Thank you uncle Tony for delving into this fascinating little era! 🙂🙃🙂
This is just a little before my time, (I'm 65) but I had no idea that there was a street version of the old A/FX cars. Amazing! I had always thought that the old American motors AMX's (SS/C and SS/D) were the most radical factory cars, but they were NOT street legal. Even on the window sticker it said, "Not intended for highway use" The fact that you could actually drive these Chryslers on the road is truly amazing!
_"I had no idea that there was a street version of the old A/FX cars."_ A so-called street version (because it had functional street equipment). The only "street" these radical factory race cars were intended for use on were 1/8 and 1/4 mile long.
My buddy bought a 1964 Dodge 426 Hemi from the local dealer here in Marine City, Michigan. Dealership owner went right down and watched the car come down the assembly line to make sure the Hemi and driveline got installed. There were no Street Hemis at that time. 13.5 to 1 compression with the famous crossram. Cost my friend $1,000 for street insurance and another $1,000 strip insurance to get a loan. We lived near Motor City Dragway and damn near lived there back then. Fun times. I still have about 20 minutes of movies from there. Al "The Lawman" Extrand, Little Red Wagon, Connie Calitta, etc. What a great era. 👍🤘✌️🖖🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
UK viewer here Tony, never change. Your passion & attitude is refreshing. Thanks.
1. I wonder how many of those 4 door Novas have been found, had the 427 pulled and then scrapped because "it's a 4 door"
2. That is one of the most beautiful cars I've ever seen, you're right the proportions are perfect.
3. "Acid dipped to paper thin" that sounds super sketchy and awesome.
TH-cam is probably putting the finishing touches on your 100K subscriber award about now! ;-)
No the Administrator of TH-cam is probably over looking every fine detail to see how they can demoatize like they do to everyone else.
A lot of truth there brother..
There now
I worked for Bud Fauble here in Chambersburg Pa. in the late 90's. What a guy!!!! Car dealership owner, Chrysler test driver, nationally known drag racer and in my opinion an outstanding human being and the best boss I ever worked for. Piloted chartered aircraft long after commercial pilots hung their wings also. Riding with him driving on I81 at 90 mph while he regailed us with flying and racing stories and feeling as relaxed and safe as if I was sitting in my recliner at home. I will always regard him with great fondness and respect. Last but not least , keep this videos coming Uncle.
This video makes me wish I was born at least eight years earleir! (was born in 1953) My older brother (born in 1943) & he Loved' the altered wheelbase cars. Me? not so much but since then I have come to appreciate what effort and tech went into constructing theses cars. As far as acid dipping, Jimmy Adison's Silver Bullet (street racer) was supposedly acid dipped & had fiberglass trunk lid, doors, complete front end & front bumper. A friend on mine Al was the guy who bought Addison's GTX for $5,000.00 I was there when he did! (I ended up with the rolling chassis and then went briefly Insane' and traded it away! Grrrrr' And Addison started building a Duster, acid dipped (of course) so much so that the body had holes in it! Never saw it finished....Thanx Tony for this video. Brought back memories of actually riding IN the Silver Bullet and being in it when All pulled a BIG wheelstand over by his old high school!
First car I got to wipe and shine on was Bill Jarrett's "Tia Juana Taxie" My first exposure to nitro. Thanks for stirring up some of my old memories. Love those old altered wheelbase care back then. Really took some ball to drive one. Thanks again Tony.
I don't think I've ever learned so much in so little time then I have from Uncle Tony and and this goes back 33 years ago from the Cars Illustrated days
I swear i learn something new every time i watch. Thanks uncle Tony!!
I was a kid in Phoenix when all this was going on. The AHRA was pretty wide open and all of these crazy cars for that era were showing up at Beeline Dragway. My dad and I would go out there from '63 when I was 14 to '66 when I went into the Marines. I was actually at the '65 Winter Championships and got to see all those cars run. It was great! It changed my freaking life! What a privilege it was to witness that. Nothing like that will ever happen again.
Awesome!
Im am so loving your channel, hate that I never found you till last night, but your one of those guys I love to sit in a shop and just absorb the years of knowledge. Never stop!
Your knowledge never ceases to amaze me. I could listen to you for hours. You remind me alot of my dad I lost back in 03. Keep it up UT!
I got the chance to see a homemade altered wheelbase car take a couple passes on the strip a few years back and I gotta tell ya, the car is badass looking and wicked fast but it looked like one of the scariest cars to get behind the wheel of. Definitely an awesome part of drag racing history!
Hey UT, all these videos bring back Cool memories!
Back when people built their own cars - when we were fast it was because we built our OWN cars, did our homework, made our own parts/modified others, we did it on our own.
The cars were simpler, we raced for fun, an winning meant were were King of the street - at least until someone else stepped up and then we stepped up higher!.
BUILT NOT BOUGHT!
Aces UT!!!!!
Watched several of these altered wheelbase Mopars at the drags, during my high school years, in the sixties.
Another spot on tutorial by my favorite history teacher! Thank you Uncle Tone. Peace and Love to Uncle Cathy.
Damn Tony, really well presented. You sir have a special gift. Uncle Kathy gets the great camera angles. Thx from all of us
And Epstien didn't kill himself
And complacent taxpayers funded 9/11 and never broke the hypnosis in mass to this day. EVERYTHING the mainstream news says to us is a lie. A "Fake" independent YT news channel released the Epstein leaked tape. But all mainstream news said he DID kill himself. ALL MAINSTREAM NEWS NETWORKS LIED.
Uncle is no doubt the mopar historian hands down . Pretty crazy what they could get away with back in the day . Those days are long gone and will never happen again . Thanks for sharing . Cheers
Tony, you are a standout gem in the crowd of talent here on TH-cam, and in our auto hobby specifically. I can listen and watch for hours, and grateful for the Sunday night marathons. Thanks !
I just want to say I love ur videos. I lean toward some of the Ford stuff but I'm a mud runner were my fords are at home. I love them all though and I love hearing about the history And the technical stuff about the engines
From Australia and love your show, learn more about Mopar and drag racing from the past then any where else.
I remember seeing the pictures ( I'm 54 ) . Never saw one in real life . You nailed it on this !!!
Beautiful factory freak car
I was in the Holman and moody facility as a little boy in the mid 80s it was filled with toys from the et movie that never got released. My dad bought 427 sohc sodium filled valves out of a large crate for a dollar a piece.
Thank you, UT. Amazing times back then. A couple of years ago I saw something akin to this at Fords at Carlisle weekend. I’ve been around thousands and thousands of cars, and there were more than a few Thunderbolts there, but this one special 427 Fairlane had THE craziest engine / exhaust sound I’ve encountered in my life. That car was a war machine. Glad to see you feature these Mopar examples of craziness
I loved these cars when I first saw pictures of them in the 70s! Great to see you explain them!
I had the fortune of being in the right place at what was definitely the right time. I started racing my M/stock '50 Oldsmobile at Lions in 1964. I had seen Tommy Grove's "Melrose Missile" win at Pomona in '62. I became hooked on Chrysler products. Hayden Proffitt's "It's a Hemi" car and Bill Rieck's "Quarterbender" ruled Lions. And then along came Dick Landy. What a time. A/GS cars like Stone Woods and Cook, Big John Mazmanian, Altheizer, Finders and Kibler and K.S. Pittman were at Lions most every Sunday. By 1967 I had a '63 Dodge 426 Stage 2 car which like a fool I later sold. BTW "Spoiler Alert" I was at Irwindale (AHRA) when Nicholson's Fiberglass Comet body flew off on it's first run.
Your memory about all things which were old-school drag racing is amazing...
What a wealth of knowledge Uncle Tony. I so look forward to your videos. Previous owner of 68 charger with a 383. Loved it, love you!!!!
Great history lesson. Other than the wheelbase mod itself, I've never known much about these cars. They were more complex than I realized. Certainly never noticed the sedan doors. I've been wrenching on Mopars for close to 30 years and still learn stuff from this channel all the time.
You are the only guy i know of that talks about this kind of stuff , the things they did with cars that were behind closed doors or the race experiments they did , the cars that were made all the test mules. It is very cool. Dodge / Chrysler along with ford did some odd stuff.
I was at Detroit Dragway in 65 when the Ramchargers and Color Me Gone showed up with there altered wheelbase fuel injected cars. They were amazing. Both pulling the front wheels off the ground. I was 17 at the time. The Ramchargers were my all time favorite.
Tony: All your videos are interesting and informative. But this one takes the cake. I never knew about this stuff though I lived through this era (I was 19 in '65). Thanks so much!
Thanks for sharing this. The history you have in your head is beyond priceless.
Uncle Tony, I love all your videos, the AFXers are my favorite cars of sixties drag racing, I'm watching the Truck AFX video right now - keep up the good work!
Jim
Mopar Muscle Magazine released an article about the A/FX cars a couple months ago. I love hearing about these cause my Great Uncle is Bob Harrop, who actually drove one of them, in the article his name is mentioned in the same sentence as Dick Landy, which was absolutely insane for me to read.
Wow Bob Harrop of the flying carpet fame? I have a video of him wrecking his 65 awb coronet at Cecil county. I never heard anything else about him really after that.
@@sczuylevch13 That's the one! I'll have to ask about him again this Thanksgiving, see if I can get any details about what he's up to nowadays
@@joshholsopple2688 that would be great to hear his stories! We would all enjoy that thank you!
Dude,u are a wealth of automotive knowledge! Thank you for the stories.
Uncle Tony, you are so interesting! Whenever you speak I'm drawn in by your knowledge, and your easily understood way of giving it to us. Thank you for this channel and sharing all that you offer.
I read that Dick Landy started the altered wheel base by sneaking it in by gradually moving the wheels forward a couple inches at a time until NHRA noticed it and stopped it. The term “funny car” was coined from these. I live next to Steve Magnate who has a nice replica.
Another history lesson. Uncle Tony that was excellent, you always come up with the right ingredient for the show.
Keep up the good work guys.
Cheers😊
Very Interesting.... I could listen for hours..... Thanks Uncle Tony and Kathy!!!!! Love You Guys!!!!🌞🇺🇸✌
The amount of information stuck in your head never ceases to amaze me! Keep on letting it flow UT, there are to few guys like you left, and tons of us out here that thirst for your knowledge.
Having a supply of vintage car magazines from that era doesn't hurt (i.e., helps your memory) either. :-)
@@electrix6751 especially when he actually wrote for some of those magazines and started a couple of his own magazines back then!
Love those altered wheel base mopars. I remember them in old hot rod magazines
Those were the days huh? !!! Rocket in the can anyone? I heard the kit came with a shoehorn too,so you can get your eyeballs back out of your spine and into their sockets where they belonged! Lol wow,I'd love to drive 1 of those beautys! Thanks again guys&gal!!! ▪☆☆☆▪
Interesting history. Thanks Uncle Tony! I know this has been said many times but I, too could listen to you for hours.
I have a personal connection to the altered wheelbase Mustangs. My parents were friends with the Holmans and the Moodys. My father was president of Columbia Car Corporation. They built fiberglass body golf carts and Scorpion class sailboats. They designed and built the fiberglass molds and made the first couple of the flip fronts of the Mustangs. The molds were transferred to H&M who made the rest of the front ends of the altered Mustangs.
Pure awsome. Great info. My dad was in a club called H"oosier Mopar Association". I remember a husband and wife team that both had one of these cars. His was red. Hers was white. Those cars were like fire breathing dragons to me, when I was young
My dad has a 427 4dr Nova and I love the stance and look of it with his Cragers and cobra ss tires all around.
Gas Ronda's 65 Fastback has always been a favorite of mine!
Once again...many thanks, UT, for doing what you do.
Belvedere x hemi x drag pipes that was a fast car.
I raced at national speedway in long island n.y.
1970 to 1973 was the days to race.
We had real race cars on the streets
I'm watching this, whilst starting my second pack of Lucky Strike cigarettes. Never cave, Uncle Tony!
No one likes a quitter!
Hahahaha...
I hope your in your 60s & you have lived a great life, good luck to you reese
Fill those lungs. Mmmm mmmm good. Not
Uncle Tony likes Chesterfield Kings
very interesting, I had no idea that this was going on
Thanks Uncle Tony
Great video Uncle Tony ... my grandpa and great uncles had one of the factory afx cars ... originally campaigned by the Micissin bros. (Unshure on spelling) .... supposedly it is still around albeit a bit modernized .... I have pics from late 67 when they bought it along with some literature on how to jet a hemi with 50% nitro ... dated 1966 from chrysler
Thats amazing! I've had an interest in the early years of drag racing too. I thought, it was one of these cars, that when the hp got to 900, the guys said , look we got to sit in the middle of the car to handle this thing! I remember the Melrose Missel also, was a Ford though. Great channel UTG!
Very interesting story Uncle Tony, Thanks for your show!
I have always loved Mopar cars, and really enjoy the history lessons.
Ahhhhhh!!! The memories...here in Northwest Indiana. The radio commercials.
Sunday, Sunday at beautiful US 30 Dragstrip! Come see the Chi Town Hustler, vs Don "the Snake" Prudome, see the Green Hornet burn up the track, watch the "Little Red Wagon" do quarter mile wheel stands.
Sunday, Sunday at beautiful US 30 Dragstrip, Where the Great Ones Run, run, run.
Ahhhhhh! Just to see it one more time......
4 door novas kick ass I have a 70 about done with 10 point cage great car to cut up... Can't wait to send it this spring
I subscribed last month, so I must have put Tony over the top. Do I get an award? Speaking of blondes, I met Linda Vaughn in the 80's, and my jealous ex wife threw out the picture. Broke my heart!
Always LOVE Tuning ln, Uncle Tony! Awesome Clip!
My girlfriend's dad from back in the day has one of these chassis. There's some controversy over if its a kit or on, but it does have the fiberglass dash and rear window supports. It also was acid dipped and paper thin. It's been ages since I've talked to him but for years it was something he kept a secret. Part of why he kept it a secret was he almost cut it up for parts because it was so rusty. But thankfully some digging around on the net in the early days kept him from cutting it to bits. Anyway the last I heard a few years ago was he had it dipped and primed to stop the rust.
“A minimum wage employee who was half drunk welding on these things” 🤣😂🤣😂 Love it!!
Never buy a car that was built on a Monday.
We had Dave Stricklers original awb coronet at the museum i volunteer at, Eastern Museum of Motor Racing in York Springs PA, two years ago. I sure do miss that car. The talk about paper think quarters is no joke. We had to be extremely careful where we pushed on the car to move it. Nick Smith owned the car at the time and we had it on loan to us for a year and a half. A week after it was picked up from the museum, it was sold at Mecum. We also had Faubel's awb as well. A local collector to us currently owns it.
First word that came to mind when I saw the title; Thunderbolt.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking too.
YEP....
Hey Tony, I remember when the Funny Cars first came out. I'm not sure but I think it was a Sox & Martin car that I first saw. Everyone was saying that they were ugly but I thought they were cool, but I was only like 12 at the time. lol Very cool video, I love your old history videos. Thanks bro. Later
these are so cool...It makes me happy that mopar and gm have gone back to the old school with all the new Demon's, hellcat and redeye...GM put out The factory copo drag car and the new ZL1 camaro's are mean machines...Its nice to see legit muscle being produced once again!
I love your pointer. Congratulations on 100k. You and mrs uncle Tony have been grinding for content and we appreciate it!
That’s both fascinating and just a little bit frightening.
(PS: Epstein didn’t kill himself.)
Tried to like your comment but it wouldn't let me.
@@hyperluminalreality1
Israel was also involved.
Isis is also a completely us fabricated organization.
Most the mass shootings are staged for passing laws as well
I was 10 at the time knew nothing about cars and loved everything about drag racing. I remember these cars from models, mags and tv. Your insights are really interesting. Seeing that injected Hemi gets the blood boiling today as it did then. No one talks of this stuff any more, thanks-TM
Great drag racing cultural history Tony. There's a guy named John Munford in South San Francisco.
I saw his collection a 110 cars.
The Collection was better than Harrah's . That's where I first met ultralights. Pontiac super duty.
He had a Chevy Black Widow.
Verticals in Ford Roadster pickups.
He even had Claire Ford's first car.
Alecart with all of the providence.
The first Mercury that George Barris ever chopped. I spent four hours with three friends looking at his collection and didn't see it all.
Estimated at over 22 million dollars in 2004. He was into the ultra lights. Is Flathead manifold collection that washed valued at over $50,000. Carburetor setups, fuel injection setups, blower setups, Stuff I didn't know you could get for Ford flat heads. The engine room was out of sight too.
Small blocks with hilborn injection,
All aluminum Chevy Big Blocks,
A Ford cammer, it was like walking around a candy shop. David Catalini, Roy Brizio's right hand man at Brizio Speed Shop in South San Francisco takes care of the collection for John Mumford.
He has 3 of the six 62 409 bubble tops. They have aluminum front ends. So did the Pontiac ultralight Super Duties. His collection is pristine. Stored in industrial buildings that are clean as an operating room. The Collection totally blew my mind. Verticals in
Vets, verticals in GTOs, 14 32 Fords, one that was stuffed with a 2x4 409, the louvers on the sides of the hood covers were modified to go around the exhaust manifolds. The interior echoed the Impala the running gear came out of, and it was all done expertly at the high end of custom. Including the dash. When you enter Roy Brizio's shop he has a small block dragster hanging on the wall.
Roy Brizio, and Boyd Coddington,
two trendsetters in California Street Rodding. restorations, rods,
and resto-rods. Also check out Aaron Johnson at Badass racing engines and cars in Sonoma California. Car freaks!
I know an old Mopar Super Stock driver named Dave Wren. Cool old guy. He has at least 80 old Mopars around his property, and all his old Hemi cars inside the buildings.
a guy in my hometown had a 67 chevelle that he did the wheelbase thing like that. his deal was wheelies and impressed us all 🤗🤗🤗
Soon as I heard deck lid a new my subscription was worth it
Very cool cars !
.....& all the delete mods . The use of A-100 van seats with aluminum brackets with Speed holes.
I remember seeing and reading about these cars in magazines when I was a kid. Awesome video!!!
Thunderbolts for me. Saw one at bonneville years ago. Didnt see it run but was cool to see it none the less
Sooo close to 100 thousand subscribers! It has been great watching your vids and seeing things grow the way they have! Well deserved for both of you!👌
This stuff is awesome,,more of this kind of stuff uncle grandpa!
Please, of course.
History worth knowing right here. Thanks, Tony!
1960-1970 hot rod golden years.... The best cars and trucks ever built
Thanks for the inside story.very cool.
Crazy stuff indeed Tony, and interesting too! Thanks for sharing. See you tomorrow.
Fantastic video and very cool history lesson Tony.
Lee smith wasn't doing well against the big boys, but in 65 at the world series of drag racing at Cordova, Mr. Norm's car wouldn't shut down at the end of the strip, and they floated some valves on their brand new hemi, so they were out.
Tommy Grove's melrose missile kept blowing rear ends, so he was out as well.
On the final run for all the marbles in SS it was Lee Smith against the Tom Coward comet, who hole shotted Smith off the line, but agonizingly slowly, Smith reeled him in with an 11.21 et, and 122 mph to win the SS crown, and the crowd hooted and hollered for a good ten minutes after that showing.
It was the quickest et of his career.
Mopar rewarded him with an altered wheelbase hemi, which you showed in your video. But kinda like Bud Fauble, he just couldn't compete with the top dogs after that.
Enjoyed your video, and your channel.
You're a fount of knowledge about mopars.
You know--- if I had some of the cars back that I owned then, I'd be pretty wealthy right now.
57 Fury. Factory dual quads. Stick. $350.00
57 Olds holiday 88 rag top. $295.00
59 Chrysler 300E paid $295.sold $295.
60 Chrysler 300F. Sold for $400
65 Dodge dart gt ragtop. Paid $30.00. Had some front end damage. Wife creamed it into utter destruction.
And on and on with Cudas, Chargers, and a plethora of beautiful , now collector cars worth a fortune.
But: I drove and enjoyed each one viscerally. You see them now and they're mostly trailer queens. Pampered, waxed, fussed over and almost never driven.
Something came over me where I just wanted to share.
Michael
Saw one those in Hemmings in the early 80's for 10 thousand cash about what I was making per year back then.I wanted that vehicle something bad.
Thanks Tony.
I was always partial towards the "68" Cuda. Unfortunately, that particular build of 50 had a Vin tag that said, "Not for street use". A beautiful Hemi.
Wonder if a reproduction of that blueprint could be made? Mopar wallpaper for Uncle Tony's den.
damn nascar and nhra for screwing things up, if they had just left factories and racers alone to do what they wanted, I can only imagine the mean machines that could have been....
Uncle Tony could you do a vid on hilborn fuel injection?
I'd like to see that, too. I used to set 'em up and I wonder how much I forgot. Set up some Pete Jackson injection then and liked his take on injection.....a lot of people didn't. Crower had a good set up at the time and I think a fella can still get them.....I'm totally out of the scene so must live thru Uncle Tony...LOL! Damn early Corvette 283 injection used to drive guys nuts!
@@tomnekuda3818 I'd like to see that too. I knew a guy that ran a Hilborn setup on a high strung SBC. But I don't know if he ever had it setup right. It ran faster than a raped ape but the throttle was like a light switch. It only ran wide open or idle. Granted that's all he needed to get the job done,but I've always wanted to know more.
@@southjerseysound7340 From what I've seen mechanical fuel injection (except for the old Rochester FI ) is not for the street unless you were a very tolerant fellow. What you describe is what I've seen.
I saw photos of these back in the past, always intrigued me. The Chevy BelAir was popular with some people for having a whole lot of trunk and a lot of weight over the back end, although not as much as this one and way heavier.
Awesome stuff man. I'm always digging these historic Automotive stories you tell. It's like reading the stories in Hot Rod Magazine without actually having to sit there and read LOL.
I really enjoy this channel, thank you for all that you do, and congrats on so many Subs my friend, keep up the great work
Always learn something watching your videos, defiantly sharing this on Facebook!
Cool time for sure, Guy's using their brains and physics not a laptop! Great video Tony.
"and it's not just because I'm a Mopar guy" haha please UT. We all know, Mopar or no car
Man, those Reliants were fun to drive.
Back in the day, when cars were real MOPAR was the one! I remember them offering 3 different versions of the hemi for options, standard, hi performance and max performance. You order the max and the warranty stopped when the dealer handed you the keys, bad azz, lol......
I was a nerd about these altered wheelbase cars. I only saw them in magazines but they made a deep impression on me. I love the old Belvederes and the Polaras from that era. Seems like they dropped a lot of the classic names from that time- (Savoy) - right? I think I remember they had an altered Mustang with a stretched wheelbase..... kind of opposite of all the rest.
Thank you uncle Tony for delving into this fascinating little era! 🙂🙃🙂
Mr Norms had one of these (the coronet) and you can find a picture of it in the workshop and the c pillars have creased due to all the power.
They say every day you learn a new fact . I say every uncle Tony video I know a new way .
These stories are great!
This is just a little before my time, (I'm 65) but I had no idea that there was a street version of the old A/FX cars. Amazing! I had always thought that the old American motors AMX's (SS/C and SS/D) were the most radical factory cars, but they were NOT street legal. Even on the window sticker it said, "Not intended for highway use" The fact that you could actually drive these Chryslers on the road is truly amazing!
_"I had no idea that there was a street version of the old A/FX cars."_
A so-called street version (because it had functional street equipment). The only "street" these radical factory race cars were intended for use on were 1/8 and 1/4 mile long.