I love your videos so much. I do wish you hadn't showed the troops crammed into those bunks. It made me think there was a lot of situational homosexuality by non professionals. Leave it to those who know what they are doing.
In 1967, when I was 6 years old, my family emigrated to the United States from Britain and we did so on the Queen Elizabeth. Now *that* was an adventure! I recognized many scenes, including one of the dining rooms and definitely the (first class) children's play room (we were traveling "tourist class" but somehow got to use the first class play room once). Thanks for the memories. Funny to think that I represent the absolute last generation to emigrate by steam ship rather than airliner.
I toured the queen many years ago. Absolutely huge. The main dinning room was enormous and beautiful with inlaid wood murals. It’s so sad that it’s gone. God bless the queens
Another wonderful video. I took a tour of the QE in 1968 when she was in Ft Lauderdale. I kept asking my dad "Is this ship as big as the Titanic ?" I was 7 years old. QE inspired me to have a career in the cruise industry. I was honored to be Dispatcher to both QE2 and QM2. Nothing like a Queen.
Indeed. The two most magnificent express liners ever built, and both were destroyed by fires that were either: A. Intentionally set by human filth with way-less-than-honourable political or financial motives. Or B. Accidentally set by dangerously negligent, painfully idiotic fools. Either way, the tragic results are the same, and what we lost was staggering. But I agree that RMS Queen Elizabeth is not at all forgotten, and will always be loved by those with the exceptionally good taste to recognize her greatness.
Never forgotten, "Big Old Boats" not by anyone who as a small boy stood on the end of the pier at Hythe on the far shore of Southampton Water, and viewed her as, surrounded by attendant tugs, she came astern from her Ocean Terminal berth, then presented her classic lines in a broadside view as she slowly and gracefully moved down towards the Solent, her siren raising the echoes along both shorelines. Her demise in Hong Kong harbour was a tragedy, and I understand that Long Beach are now struggling to fund her sister "Queen Mary". We weren't the class of person who travelled by Transatlantic liner, but I did get a close-up view of "Queen Mary" when we got a pass to visit the Ocean Terminal while she was on a turn round between crossings. Elegance and grace personified. You can keep your "floating block of flats" modern cruise liners, these were real ships.
You speak beautifully and eloquently. You painted such a lovely a picture, that I was able to see what you surely must have seen, and heard what you must have heard. Thank-you for sharing this treasured experience.
I have been told by many an ex Cunard crewman .That the second Mauritania was the happiest ship in the Cunard fleet to work on .Another great episode .Many thanks .
Nice collection of footage of this Queen through all her service. It takes me back to April 1969 when I toured her in Port Everglades -- a marvel of sophisticated interior decor and what seemed like miles of open deck. A voyage on her must have been an utter delight. Years later I visited the Queen Mary in California and had a similar impression, but Elizabeth will always be first with me!
Nice video Queen Elizabeth was one of the best and most beautiful liners ever she looked much better then her older sister she didn't deserve to end up like that
I grew up in Lauderdale and remember seeing her huge stacks visible from all over town. Many times I threw a cast net along her hull as mullet ate the grass that grew around her waterline. I was heartbroken when she was towed out of the port then crushed later to hear of her demise. She lives on in the memory of many...
She, in my opinion was the most beautiful of the Cunard Queens. It’s sad that she didn’t have as large a following as her running mate. I think Cunard should have built a third sister based on Queen Elizabeth’s design
I can remember seeing this ship as if it was yesterday when I was about 6 as she left Southampton. I was on a chase launch but the queen soon outpaced us as she sped up! Great video! ;-)
When I first saw the 1974 Jamens Bond: The Man with the Golden Gun as a Jungster, i became immediatly fascinated with what where the sad remnants of the former Queen. I have to admit, that it is sometimes real hard to get Information, a model or at least a 3D drawing of her. I already have the Queen Mary Scalemodel, but I really want to have that Beautiful Ship too. Anyway, thank you so very much for your effort in making this nice Shipbiopic :)
I traveled to England with my mother and brother on the QUEEN ELIZABETH in 1955 when I was 5 years old. Terrific memories. Great video! Thanks for making it
Very well done! The Queen Elizabeth was my second favorite ocean liner ever built (next to Normadie of course) and I will always believe that she was absolutely gorgeous with her proud twin funnels. She died as so many other famous ships had died, young in age, and at the hands of greedy men (or a man, C.Y. Tung's son, although this was never proven). So sad. She went down and wasn't fully scrapped for YEARS.
Hey man, thank you for putting so much time and effort into your videos. I really appreciated it. It was yet another great tribute to a forgotten past time, but those of us who know and love that time, appreciate it.
Big Old Boats: The highest compliments are due to you for this very informative & very interesting video. Well done chap! Nice to see a video on the history of "Our Lizzie" - the biggest liner in the world until 1996!! That's quite a Claim to Fame and she was built here in Britain at John Brown's shipyard in Clydebank Scotland - (all the best ships were!). Thanks again! You put together a great video.
Great video. I've been to the Queen Mary a few times and I'm always impressed with her. From the little I've seen of the Queen Elizabeth, I would say that the Queen Elizabeth looks better in many ways than the Queen Mary, but the Queen Mary's interiors are far superior. The Streamline Art Deco design of her time was just perfect for a passenger ship.
In early February 1972 while severing aboard the USS Chicago CG 11 we came into Hong Kong harbor for R & R , there laying on her side we saw the burned out Elizabeth. A friend and I took a water taxi out to her along with our super 8 mm cameras. I now live in Huntington Beach California, about 10 miles south of Long Beach and have been aboard the Queen Mary a few times. Though I have seen both Queens and have been aboard one, I have never been to England.
In Southampton we called her "The Lizzie" and I think you are right that the crew loved the "Mary" more. This was partly because the "Mary" had separate boilers for the "hotel" services which could be used in port and required fewer crew whereas the large boiler(s) on the "Lizzie" were needed for the hotel services in port - this was less convenient. As a small boy in about 1959 my grandmother took me to see "The Lizzie" at her berth, there was a strong wind and one of her securing ropes snapped, this could have been serious for anyone standing in the way of a whipping loose rope but all was sorted. A kindly dock policemen gave me a fat pencil with a transfer of QE on it which I still have........rather rubbed off now. My mother took us on a foggy damp morning at Weston Shore to see her off for the last time in November 1968 when she left Southampton for ever. She steeled away quietly without any sound from her horn due to an electrical fault...........very sad.
The Queen Elizabeth wasn’t really forgotten though, at least I thought. Despite modern myth, she was actually very popular in her day and pretty iconic.
My mother actually traveled on her when she was a little girl! She remembers it well partially because the day before they docked in Britain the ship's doctor cut her cast off with a saw. Pretty scary as a five year old, she said.
@@thunderbird1921 Cast removal ala saw is still really unnerving as an adult XD. (perfectly safe; but while it's happening you have to keep telling yourself that)
I had the extreme privilege of boarding her in New York, probably about 1967. We lived in NJ, and saw my cousin Barb off on her first trip to Europe from South Dakota. I knew that she was great, but we would regularly see the great liners in dock along the Henry Hudson Pkwy, when we went into NYC, so little did I realize that an era was ending… I was just 16….. I am now so greatful!!❤
I have 3 menus from her dining room from 1961. One is hand written in french. They have a picture of her outward bound from Southampton on the covers. My favorite Cunard ship.
Both of the Queens had their advantages and strong points. The Queen Elizabeth was an improvement on the Queen Mary in terms of technology and design but I lean more to the Queen Mary's interiors when it comes to the asthetics of the two liners. Still the First Class Lounge of the Queen Elizabeth is even more beautiful than that of the Queen Mary and I find the Third Class dining room of the Queen Elizabeth to be exceptionally attractive.
Thanks for posting. I have been on the Queen Mary many times over the years since her move to Long Beach. Until this video I never thought about the Queen Elizabeth much. I now have a new interest / respect for the Queen Elizabeth. Great video and narration, full of information. Thanks for your time and hard work........ Also I just subscribed
Great Video tribute to a great ocean liner!! Queen Elizabeth, along side the Normandie, are my two favorite ocean liners of all time . One day I think the Normandie is #1 , then the next day I think NO the Queen Elizabeth is tops !?! Yah, I’m fickled! I live near the Queen Mary in California and have visited probably 50 times since her 1972 opening to the public. She’s a BEAUTIFUL ship . Love the incredibly gorgeous wood paneling!! She comes in at #3 on my list. I’ve also stayed overnight in her hotel about 20 times. Each time in a different cabin. And guess what!! NO GHOSTS!!! She’s not haunted. She was a happy ship and I get nothing but happy vibes from her !!! Your video comment about “ Bogus Ghost Videos on TH-cam “ is right on!! You can thank Disney for that !! They concocted the ghost myths in the 1980’s and 1990’s to try to increase attendance! They said , hey let’s turn her into a nautical version of their Haunted Mansion at Disneyland! Backfired in their face , didn’t increase attendance, just took away from the great historical standing and glory of a wonderful ship!!!! Thank You for all the great work you put into the ocean liner community of ours!! You Rock ! BEST Ocean Liner blog on TH-cam by far !!!!
I'm so jealous you've gotten the chance to visit the Queen Mary! It's number one on my list when she finally reopens. I think the ghost stuff is just another sign of the horrific mismanagement she's been subjected to over the past several years. The ghost stories are fun but she's been treated like a haunted house at a cheap amusement park. Totally disrespectful of her historical significance.
Thank you for all the time and work that went into this production. I had a great time watching this. This may be open to debate but I've read that the Queen Mary was an updated version of the Berengaria with a deck plan similar to that of the Aquitania. Had the Elizabeth entered service as planned maybe she would have become the better-known of the almost-sister ships. I've read that thought the first Mauretania was very popular it was actually the Lusitania that had been more popular up to the time of her sinking in 1915. I knew a man, now deceased, who was on the Queen Mary when she was a transport. He thought that it would be a good idea to get the lowest bunk to the floor because there was less motion lower down and less chance of being seasick. The drawback was that when someone above him was throwing up....well, you know where it went. Yech. When they arrived in England those men must have been in a state of sleep deprivation and exhaustion. Just speculation but even though the Seawise University may have been in excellent shape with up-to-date safety features when ready for service, I question how successful she would have been: would enough people be interested in an educational cruise ship to make it profitable? Still many might have gone just for the cruise part. Then there's the cost of maintaining a very large liner that was already well along in years. Then there was the huge increase in fuel costs in the 1970's and increasingly high safety standards. Also how many ports could accommodate a liner nearly the size of the Empire State Building? I wonder if the Seawise University would have been in service for more than a few years.
Thank you! I wonder the same thing. I don't know much about the Semester at Sea program but it seems like they mainly use smaller, easier to maintain vessels. The Queen Elizabeth would have been very expensive to keep in operation, especially after the oil crisis in the 70's. Makes me wonder if her owner realized that and really did go for an insurance claim. But who knows! I certainly would have been interested in doing a semester on the Queen Elizabeth.
5:56 Although the Queen Elizabeth was eclipsed in size by Carnival Destiny, she's still the largest ocean liner ever built held together by rivets apparently.
Apparently you and the uploader don't know jack shit about ships. You guys are forgetting the SS France of the 1960s which held the title of largest ship ever built for the guineas world records when she was built!
@@rantgant5234 er no. You’re the one who’s mistaken. Queen Elizabeth was 1038 ft long and 83,500 grt, opposed to the SS France mere 66,000 grt and 1035 ft long. You ARE sort of correct however about the record, as she was the LONGEST passenger ever built until the QM2. There’s a fine difference between longest and largest. Next time don’t be so rude.
@@MJ-vq3ws Well then...let me rephrase that: The good people of Guiness book of world records don't know jack shit about ships, as they clearly nominated the wrong ship as the world's largest. There you go. Everyone is happy.
@@rantgant5234 SS France was slightly longer , But QE had a far greater gross tonnage. It is usually the gross tonnage that determines the size. But either way they were both among the greatest liners ever. Most of these new cruise ships could never cross the ocean safely because they are just too top heavy to take on the rough ocean crossing. And they are slower too .
New subscriber, I grew up in Long Beach and had visited the Queen Mary when I was little. Sadly due to the world being as it is I know it’s not holding up so well and is in a sort of limbo in regards to upkeep and maintenance. Love the content and can’t wait to dig through the other videos on other ships history. My grandfather served in the pacific theater and sadly isn’t around to ask which ships he traveled on, neither my dad who just past from Covid as i know they travelled a lot on navy cruisers and such but never though to ask if they travelled any ocean liners.
The Queen Lizzie is very special to me. She took my grandfather to the USA in the late 50s or early 60s I believe. Many years ago he gifted me a postcard of QE that he got on his voyage that listed all the ship's stats and whatnot on the back. I was shocked to learn she went out in such an undignified way.
Well done: I enjoyed learning some new stuff and of course the footage was amazing. I did manage to sail on QE2 and stayed aboard Queen Mary Hotel in Long Beach. Different era indeed.
@@BigOldBoats You should write a fictional movie about a plot by Cunard to destroy the Normandie with the French getting revenge 30 years later by burning the Elizabeth.
Interesting to hear that you consider her "in the shadow" of Queen Mary. As a Brit, I always thought of it as the other way around. Great video though, as are all your others.
Those career statistics are pretty astounding. They also speak volumes about just how clever and reliable the technology had become. Sad end, like Normandie (although the latter was sheer effing incompetence and bloodymindedness). A crooked deal done in Hong Kong; what a shock!
Hardly forgotten, seen everytime The Man With The Golden Gun is on TV and there is a huge mural in the main atrium of her in the stairwell of the current Cunard Queen Elizabeth.
An extremely interesting and captivating look at the history, and stories behind some of the finest sea going Vessels ever built by man! A Beautifully presented and narrated documentary, I just had to keep watching, even though it’s 02.45 in the morning here in England. More please! I’ve liked and subscribed to your channel too!
In 1965 or 1966, we went on a family holiday to Bournemouth in southern England - we went two consecutive years so I can't be sure which year it was. We went on a day trip to Southampton and took a small launch for a tour of the harbour. We came up alongside the Queen Elizabeth and I can remember the goosebumps when our tiny boat went alongside - the ship towered over us. Never forgot that experience and was so sad when she met her demise.
Great Film, thanks. The Queen Elizabeth was indeed fortunate in escaping the attentions of the Luftwaffe, her birthplace the town of Clydebank was, however, less fortunate. A year after her departure the town of Clydebank was flattened over two nights of bombing, 1,200 were killed, out of 12,000 houses only eight were undamaged and 35,000 were made homeless. Ironically the shipyard which was the target escaped relatively unharmed and was soon back in production.
5:52, ha the only cruise I've ever been on was on Carnival Destiny back in 2003. I was only 7 at the time and didn't realise she was such a significant ship then.
A relative took the Elizabeth across as a soldier during WW2. He remembered everyone having to stand at attention as she left NY, as she was practically scraping the bottom of the harbor. (What with the weight of all the additional bodies.) He came back on a Victory ship, and Mary passed them like they were standing still.
I wish you had been my history teacher in when I was in high school with these types of presentations. You make all of your videos so interesting. Thank you much!!
About six years ago, it was probably 150th anniversary of the Cunard Line, the three current big Cunard Liners appeared on the River Mersey together. That was pretty amazing and a big spectacle
RMS Queen Elizabeth died way long before she reached H.K. After being auction off to another owner who's intentions was to converted for another purpose is what demised her. R. I. P.
I was an over excited boy of five and a half when the boat train (steam) ended its journey at Southampton. It was a cold day in the last week of january nineteen sixty five and my family and myself were on their way to NYC on The Lizzie. I`ve always considered myself lucky to be on that amazing ship even though the weather in the Atlantic was awful, one would not think such a large ship would pitch about so much but it did. I`ve recently discovered from an old Cunard employee that I was very fortunate as when we left Southampton and headed up down the Solent the Queen Mary was coming in, this was unusual he said as they normally passed somewhere mid ocean.
Love knowing more about these old liners. I do have a direct connection to the Cunarders as my paternal grandfather was Commander on the Mauritania and then the Aquitania. I’d love to see more info either or both ships. Unfortunately I never knew him he died before I was born but it still gives me a direct link to the ocean liners. They fascinate me and your channel is so well put together and interesting.
British ocean liners after being overshadowed by the normadie, being in a battle for the blue ribband and being the biggest and most luxurious ocean liners then being the laste ones left: Are you not entertained??
I actually genuinely agree with you and finally some one who l found in the comment section that actually has a functioning brain for once and this world actually genuinely needs more people actually like you in this world and you actually couldn't have said that actually any better than me lol ❤😂🎉.
There is no question that the Normandy was and still is the most beautiful ocean liner ever. Second place is is still up in the air. Rex and her sister are viable. QMary is in the running, but my choice is the Queen Elisabeth!
I think comments like these are quite stupid. ships serve different purposes these days and that's okay? overall the efficiency of ships has greatly improved and newer ships are engineering marvels. The size and power of ships have greatly changed and whether "aesthetically" they are different ships have and always will evolve. if you don't think ignorant people in the turn of the century were looking at things like the Lusitania and Titanic and being like "I miss the good old days of sailing and wooden ships" you would be incorrect. growth happens over time. in 150 years ships might not even be on the water and maybe like airships or hovercraft. only time will tell. They serve their purpose as "Cruise liners" absurdly well, and the concept of leisure liners was created in the 30s for aging and crumbling ships to have a purpose, it's not a new concept to build cruise ships. they don't need the features to do transatlantic crossings and to be honest, that's okay. every video I see stuff like this and you come off as ignorant like- Ships have evolved and the need for transatlantic passenger liners has diminished. and even if they had carried on into the 21'st century like qm2 things like balconies and better passenger accommodations and technological advancements so ships didn't have fires every 10 years or have major collisions- is very nessacry to the survival of passenger naval vessels as a whole. Just be glad that passenger ships found a new purpose and the industry didn't completely disappear.
@@samueljaramillo4221 what do you expect from the 21th century designs blame the economy not the whole cruise ship and cruise line itself and if a cruise line spends money for an ocean liner to be build it would be useless how you ask? think about airlines
@@louisaugustexvi4515 Of course ships evolve like anything else but evolution doesn´t have to mean cheap looking kitschy designs which most modern cruise ships have. Externally they could also look far more like ships, for example the current Queen Mary 2. Fortunately, very recently some of the smaller new cruise ships have better interiors looking less like Vegas on the ocean so maybe there´s a change happening right now. The greatest advantage of the modern designs is better cabin facilities but having sailed on ships many times in the past, long haul and cruises, I didn´t find the cabin limitations important as I spent little time there, much more interesting interacting with other passengers and enjoying the public rooms.
Wow. Just tought about this. Since the goverment gave enough funds for a running mate for the queen mary and it was still the Cunard White Star Line imagine if they restored the plans for the Oceanic III instead of building a new ship like the QE. Imagine R.M.M.V Oceanic and R.M.S Queen Mary as running mates.
After all the hubbub about the Rex.... I felt like rewatching something from your chanel... Love this video.. Such great footage of this old beauty.. If you haven't seen it yet, get your hands on a copy of Clive Harvey's book Queen Elizabeth... its a beautiful, very detailed tome....
Love these vids! I'm glad you upgraded your mic setup, this one sounds a little like you are in an overturned canoe! Lol! Again, thank you for these detailed and accessible snapshots!
Interesting video. I think that the Cunard Line should have completed the build of the Oceanic III as both ships were under construction when the depression hit. However as this never happened. The Queen Elizabeth was a beautiful liner and of the two I prefer the Queen Elizabeth, and there is a part of me that wishes she was docked in Long Beach instead of the Queen Mary.
Honestly, my favorite large liner is Queen Elizabeth. If she was given the same worth as her sister, she would've never burned and sank. Also, when we visited Hong Kong where QE was buried, there was a small plaque near the entrance of one of the ports where it stated that this is where Queen Elizabeth lies. Not sure if it's still there or it's been removed. It didn't came from Britain nor Cunard but possibly someone who fell in love with the ship after they boarded her.
Great work, this is the content I would like to watch on social media, especially on YT instead of watching shared pictures or content that doesn’t mean anything and is done only for taking views (and cash in the result). I prefer QE as well, don't like much her older sister QM - for her interiors and external design. You really did a great job creating 20-minutes minidocumentary, but covering each important topic which relates to her. Even though I know her story quite good, I learned few new things from this video. Well done and keep doing so 👌👍
"Cunard's Atlantic dominance was challenged in 1952, when the S.S. United States entered the scene and shattered Queen Mary's speed record." Had to rewind that 8 times: t'was music to my ears. Get rekt Britain XD #America Back on topic, you did a fantastic job telling the story of one of the greatest liners in history. I mean you attracted the attention of OlympicWS, one of the best history travel channels on TH-cam and one of the OGs for crying out loud. It's a shame her life ended the way it did. At least she was buried, so in some way, she still went out in dignity. Really glad I found your channel as I love hearing about the stories of the great liners as well as other engineering marvels and moments of history from different perspectives. You've earned yourself a sub. Keep it up: I'm gonna binge your newest videos as soon as I have time. As the saying goes, Welcome to the Atlantic. :)
Sir Percy Bates: "I have good news and some bad news" -"Good news is that the ship will be named after the Queen." -"The Bad news is that it's not the Queen we wanted"
A newcomer to this channel/series: well put together and informative (being a ocean liner buff, I already knew most of the info being presented here lol). One point of personal contention though (more nitpicking tbh): I wouldn't call her forgetten per-se, just overshadowed by her elder half-sister/running mate. She certainly isn't forgotten here in the town of her birth (Clydebank). Fills me with pride (with a hint of bittersweetness given how it's all been swept away) that I live less than 4 miles north of where she was built.
I wouldn’t say forgotten since the Queen Elizabeth 2, it’s Successor, is now a Museum in Dubai, But what would describe this ship as “Cunard’s LOST Queen”. after she was retired, she was sold to a Chinese company to become a Floating university, Unfortunately during her fitting out in that role, She suffered the same fate as her older Sister’s French competitor, the SS Normandie. She caught Fire in 1974 and partially sank from both the Fire Damage, and the Water that was used to put out the fire that already caused said damage, Scrappers dismantled the parts of the wreck that were above water, all that’s supposedly left is bits of her hull and keel.
Read recently that the Queen Mary is closed to the public for urgent repairs. The ship is in rough shape underneath the water line and rusting away, that could cause it it to sink. City of Long Beach is suppose to be doing the most urgent repairs and less urgent ones later on. Touring this ship is on my bucket list.
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I love your videos so much. I do wish you hadn't showed the troops crammed into those bunks. It made me think there was a lot of situational homosexuality by non professionals.
Leave it to those who know what they are doing.
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@@michaelwhite2823 ha! My thoughts exactly
I love your channel
I have a question. Is the Queen Elizabeth the huge two funnel ship shown at the beginning of How to Marry a Millionaire?
In 1967, when I was 6 years old, my family emigrated to the United States from Britain and we did so on the Queen Elizabeth. Now *that* was an adventure! I recognized many scenes, including one of the dining rooms and definitely the (first class) children's play room (we were traveling "tourist class" but somehow got to use the first class play room once). Thanks for the memories. Funny to think that I represent the absolute last generation to emigrate by steam ship rather than airliner.
I toured the queen many years ago. Absolutely huge. The main dinning room was enormous and beautiful with inlaid wood murals. It’s so sad that it’s gone. God bless the queens
I can't wait to see her one day!
I live in Long Beach, I used to have an apartment with a view of the Ship, very nice ship. We now Have a battleship nearby as well.
We are fortunate to have the best of the bunch still in existence!
@@MartinCHorowitz WHAT --PROTECTING THE QUEEN ?
@@BigOldBoats you won’t. The Queen Elizabeth no longer exists. The smaller Queen Mary is in Long Beach CA.
Another wonderful video. I took a tour of the QE in 1968 when she was in Ft Lauderdale. I kept asking my dad "Is this ship as big as the Titanic ?" I was 7 years old. QE inspired me to have a career in the cruise industry. I was honored to be Dispatcher to both QE2 and QM2. Nothing like a Queen.
As it turns out, the _Queen Elizabeth_ wasn't as big as the _Titanic._
She was bigger.
Much bigger, like over 3X as big.
Titanic wasn’t even the biggest of the three Olympic Class ships ……
There's nothing forgotten about this ship. But what's most painful is its ultimate fate. As bad or worse than Normandie.
I remember the suggested main cause of the fires, was attributed to Communist Students who got aboard. Maybe a convenient cover for the Ship owner's ?
Indeed.
The two most magnificent express liners ever built, and both were destroyed by fires that were either:
A. Intentionally set by human filth with way-less-than-honourable political or financial motives.
Or
B. Accidentally set by dangerously negligent, painfully idiotic fools.
Either way, the tragic results are the same, and what we lost was staggering. But I agree that RMS Queen Elizabeth is not at all forgotten, and will always be loved by those with the exceptionally good taste to recognize her greatness.
Such inspiring words...
Less bad than the normandie cus atleast she had a good and long career while the poor normandie didn't
@@MrDaiseymay you can't put much past the reds
The photo of Normandie, QM and QE all together was absolutely stunning. What would I give just to bee there on that day.
Never forgotten, "Big Old Boats" not by anyone who as a small boy stood on the end of the pier at Hythe on the far shore of Southampton Water, and viewed her as, surrounded by attendant tugs, she came astern from her Ocean Terminal berth, then presented her classic lines in a broadside view as she slowly and gracefully moved down towards the Solent, her siren raising the echoes along both shorelines. Her demise in Hong Kong harbour was a tragedy, and I understand that Long Beach are now struggling to fund her sister "Queen Mary". We weren't the class of person who travelled by Transatlantic liner, but I did get a close-up view of "Queen Mary" when we got a pass to visit the Ocean Terminal while she was on a turn round between crossings. Elegance and grace personified. You can keep your "floating block of flats" modern cruise liners, these were real ships.
You speak beautifully and eloquently. You painted such a lovely a picture, that I was able to see what you surely must have seen, and heard what you must have heard.
Thank-you for sharing this treasured experience.
I have been told by many an ex Cunard crewman .That the second Mauritania was the happiest ship in the Cunard fleet to work on .Another great episode .Many thanks .
Nice collection of footage of this Queen through all her service. It takes me back to April 1969 when I toured her in Port Everglades -- a marvel of sophisticated interior decor and what seemed like miles of open deck. A voyage on her must have been an utter delight. Years later I visited the Queen Mary in California and had a similar impression, but Elizabeth will always be first with me!
"It's hard to beat a ship that's still floating...unless you're the Titanic".
This made me laugh irrationally loud 🤣
To be honest, the Titanic is the reason many people, including myself, are interested in old liners today.
This ship has the most beautiful exteriors in Cunard's line
Well done. She’s a favorite of mine too. I know her interiors were more subdued than QM, but I know she was beautiful too. Such a sad end.
Thank you! So glad you enjoyed!
Nice video Queen Elizabeth was one of the best and most beautiful liners ever she looked much better then her older sister she didn't deserve to end up like that
Fully agree
I think the Queen Mary was more beautiful
@@wilanton4571 I will also agree to that reply.
hi ,totally agree, it should have been kept as a floating hotel or museum, but due to clown activity by the owners they let her go,
@@petersmith4455 👍👍 well said Peter - clown activity of her owners
I grew up in Lauderdale and remember seeing her huge stacks visible from all over town. Many times I threw a cast net along her hull as mullet ate the grass that grew around her waterline. I was heartbroken when she was towed out of the port then crushed later to hear of her demise. She lives on in the memory of many...
Was gorgeous! Had the privilage to be on the last crossing of the two Queens in mid ocean the year the Mary was retired 1967
She, in my opinion was the most beautiful of the Cunard Queens. It’s sad that she didn’t have as large a following as her running mate. I think Cunard should have built a third sister based on Queen Elizabeth’s design
That would have been great!
To have been named, The Queen Anderson.
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I can remember seeing this ship as if it was yesterday when I was about 6 as she left Southampton. I was on a chase launch but the queen soon outpaced us as she sped up! Great video! ;-)
Thank you! So cool that got to see her in person!
When I first saw the 1974 Jamens Bond: The Man with the Golden Gun as a Jungster, i became immediatly fascinated with what where the sad remnants of the former Queen.
I have to admit, that it is sometimes real hard to get Information, a model or at least a 3D drawing of her.
I already have the Queen Mary Scalemodel, but I really want to have that Beautiful Ship too.
Anyway, thank you so very much for your effort in making this nice Shipbiopic :)
I traveled to England with my mother and brother on the QUEEN ELIZABETH in 1955 when I was 5 years old. Terrific memories. Great video! Thanks for making it
Very well done! The Queen Elizabeth was my second favorite ocean liner ever built (next to Normadie of course) and I will always believe that she was absolutely gorgeous with her proud twin funnels. She died as so many other famous ships had died, young in age, and at the hands of greedy men (or a man, C.Y. Tung's son, although this was never proven). So sad. She went down and wasn't fully scrapped for YEARS.
Hey man, thank you for putting so much time and effort into your videos. I really appreciated it. It was yet another great tribute to a forgotten past time, but those of us who know and love that time, appreciate it.
Big Old Boats: The highest compliments are due to you for this very informative & very interesting video. Well done chap! Nice to see a video on the history of "Our Lizzie" - the biggest liner in the world until 1996!! That's quite a Claim to Fame and she was built here in Britain at John Brown's shipyard in Clydebank Scotland - (all the best ships were!).
Thanks again! You put together a great video.
Thank you so much for the kind comments! I'm really glad you're enjoying these stories. I can't wait to create more!
@@BigOldBoats If they're as enjoyable as this one - I'll be a happy Chappy!
Actually I think it was still the biggest liner, the issue was they scrapped it in 1996... Heartless fools, they don't know history, only the future.
Great video. I've been to the Queen Mary a few times and I'm always impressed with her. From the little I've seen of the Queen Elizabeth, I would say that the Queen Elizabeth looks better in many ways than the Queen Mary, but the Queen Mary's interiors are far superior. The Streamline Art Deco design of her time was just perfect for a passenger ship.
In early February 1972 while severing aboard the USS Chicago CG 11 we came into Hong Kong harbor for R & R , there laying on her side we saw the burned out Elizabeth. A friend and I took a water taxi out to her along with our super 8 mm cameras. I now live in Huntington Beach California, about 10 miles south of Long Beach and have been aboard the Queen Mary a few times. Though I have seen both Queens and have been aboard one, I have never been to England.
In Southampton we called her "The Lizzie" and I think you are right that the crew loved the "Mary" more. This was partly because the "Mary" had separate boilers for the "hotel" services which could be used in port and required fewer crew whereas the large boiler(s) on the "Lizzie" were needed for the hotel services in port - this was less convenient. As a small boy in about 1959 my grandmother took me to see "The Lizzie" at her berth, there was a strong wind and one of her securing ropes snapped, this could have been serious for anyone standing in the way of a whipping loose rope but all was sorted. A kindly dock policemen gave me a fat pencil with a transfer of QE on it which I still have........rather rubbed off now. My mother took us on a foggy damp morning at Weston Shore to see her off for the last time in November 1968 when she left Southampton for ever. She steeled away quietly without any sound from her horn due to an electrical fault...........very sad.
The Queen Elizabeth wasn’t really forgotten though, at least I thought. Despite modern myth, she was actually very popular in her day and pretty iconic.
My mother actually traveled on her when she was a little girl! She remembers it well partially because the day before they docked in Britain the ship's doctor cut her cast off with a saw. Pretty scary as a five year old, she said.
@@thunderbird1921 Cast removal ala saw is still really unnerving as an adult XD.
(perfectly safe; but while it's happening you have to keep telling yourself that)
I remember her catching fire and sinking, I was teenager then and loved ships; I was greatly saddened at the loss of such a beautiful and iconic ship.
I had the extreme privilege of boarding her in New York, probably about 1967. We lived in NJ, and saw my cousin Barb off on her first trip to Europe from South Dakota.
I knew that she was great, but we would regularly see the great liners in dock along the Henry Hudson Pkwy, when we went into NYC, so little did I realize that an era was ending… I was just 16….. I am now so greatful!!❤
I have 3 menus from her dining room from 1961. One is hand written in french. They have a picture of her outward bound from Southampton on the covers. My favorite Cunard ship.
Enjoyed this summary very much. Thank you
Thank you! I'm really glad you enjoyed it!
Such a beautiful ship. I remember her end but thought it a few years earlier. A tragic end to fine ship.
There's a photograph of her library on board with passengers browsing the selections in the 1950s....just mesmerizing for a ship of the time!
Queen Elizabeth encountered 5 rogue waves in her lifetime. They swept over her bridge all the way aft. Luckily no one was hurt.
Both of the Queens had their advantages and strong points. The Queen Elizabeth was an improvement on the Queen Mary in terms of technology and design but I lean more to the Queen Mary's interiors when it comes to the asthetics of the two liners. Still the First Class Lounge of the Queen Elizabeth is even more beautiful than that of the Queen Mary and I find the Third Class dining room of the Queen Elizabeth to be exceptionally attractive.
Thanks for posting. I have been on the Queen Mary many times over the years since her move to Long Beach. Until this video I never thought about the Queen Elizabeth much. I now have a new interest / respect for the Queen Elizabeth. Great video and narration, full of information. Thanks for your time and hard work........ Also I just subscribed
Thank you so much! Glad I can share her story
Great Video tribute to a great ocean liner!! Queen Elizabeth, along side the Normandie, are my two favorite ocean liners of all time . One day I think the Normandie is #1 , then the next day I think NO the Queen Elizabeth is tops !?! Yah, I’m fickled! I live near the Queen Mary in California and have visited probably 50 times since her 1972 opening to the public. She’s a BEAUTIFUL ship . Love the incredibly gorgeous wood paneling!! She comes in at #3 on my list. I’ve also stayed overnight in her hotel about 20 times. Each time in a different cabin. And guess what!! NO GHOSTS!!! She’s not haunted. She was a happy ship and I get nothing but happy vibes from her !!! Your video comment about “ Bogus Ghost Videos on TH-cam “ is right on!! You can thank Disney for that !! They concocted the ghost myths in the 1980’s and 1990’s to try to increase attendance! They said , hey let’s turn her into a nautical version of their Haunted Mansion at Disneyland! Backfired in their face , didn’t increase attendance, just took away from the great historical standing and glory of a wonderful ship!!!! Thank You for all the great work you put into the ocean liner community of ours!! You Rock ! BEST Ocean Liner blog on TH-cam by far !!!!
I'm so jealous you've gotten the chance to visit the Queen Mary! It's number one on my list when she finally reopens. I think the ghost stuff is just another sign of the horrific mismanagement she's been subjected to over the past several years. The ghost stories are fun but she's been treated like a haunted house at a cheap amusement park. Totally disrespectful of her historical significance.
Thank you for making this video. I will subscribe & look forward to your next video.
It's so weird to see old footage of a ship what feels like 100 years ago and then see it in color in the modern day in youtube thumbnails
Thank you for a lovely travel back to the glorious days. Can't wait to see more!
Thank you, glad you enjoyed!
Your commentary in all your videos are spot on, you bring life and personality to the ships once again as they deserve. Well done !
" cuz that's how stuff worked back then"...love it
Thank you for all the time and work that went into this production. I had a great time watching this. This may be open to debate but I've read that the Queen Mary was an updated version of the Berengaria with a deck plan similar to that of the Aquitania. Had the Elizabeth entered service as planned maybe she would have become the better-known of the almost-sister ships. I've read that thought the first Mauretania was very popular it was actually the Lusitania that had been more popular up to the time of her sinking in 1915.
I knew a man, now deceased, who was on the Queen Mary when she was a transport. He thought that it would be a good idea to get the lowest bunk to the floor because there was less motion lower down and less chance of being seasick. The drawback was that when someone above him was throwing up....well, you know where it went. Yech. When they arrived in England those men must have been in a state of sleep deprivation and exhaustion.
Just speculation but even though the Seawise University may have been in excellent shape with up-to-date safety features when ready for service, I question how successful she would have been: would enough people be interested in an educational cruise ship to make it profitable? Still many might have gone just for the cruise part. Then there's the cost of maintaining a very large liner that was already well along in years. Then there was the huge increase in fuel costs in the 1970's and increasingly high safety standards. Also how many ports could accommodate a liner nearly the size of the Empire State Building? I wonder if the Seawise University would have been in service for more than a few years.
Thank you! I wonder the same thing. I don't know much about the Semester at Sea program but it seems like they mainly use smaller, easier to maintain vessels. The Queen Elizabeth would have been very expensive to keep in operation, especially after the oil crisis in the 70's. Makes me wonder if her owner realized that and really did go for an insurance claim. But who knows! I certainly would have been interested in doing a semester on the Queen Elizabeth.
5:56 Although the Queen Elizabeth was eclipsed in size by Carnival Destiny, she's still the largest ocean liner ever built held together by rivets apparently.
Apparently you and the uploader don't know jack shit about ships. You guys are forgetting the SS France of the 1960s which held the title of largest ship ever built for the guineas world records when she was built!
@@rantgant5234 er no. You’re the one who’s mistaken. Queen Elizabeth was 1038 ft long and 83,500 grt, opposed to the SS France mere 66,000 grt and 1035 ft long. You ARE sort of correct however about the record, as she was the LONGEST passenger ever built until the QM2. There’s a fine difference between longest and largest. Next time don’t be so rude.
@@MJ-vq3ws Well then...let me rephrase that:
The good people of Guiness book of world records don't know jack shit about ships, as they clearly nominated the wrong ship as the world's largest.
There you go. Everyone is happy.
@@rantgant5234 SS France was slightly longer , But QE had a far greater gross tonnage. It is usually the gross tonnage that determines the size. But either way they were both among the greatest liners ever. Most of these new cruise ships could never cross the ocean safely because they are just too top heavy to take on the rough ocean crossing. And they are slower too .
@@MJ-vq3ws According to your stats QE was 3 feet longer.
I so appreciate your narration. Thank you.
New subscriber, I grew up in Long Beach and had visited the Queen Mary when I was little. Sadly due to the world being as it is I know it’s not holding up so well and is in a sort of limbo in regards to upkeep and maintenance.
Love the content and can’t wait to dig through the other videos on other ships history. My grandfather served in the pacific theater and sadly isn’t around to ask which ships he traveled on, neither my dad who just past from Covid as i know they travelled a lot on navy cruisers and such but never though to ask if they travelled any ocean liners.
shes rotting frm the inside out mustbe scrapped
The Queen Lizzie is very special to me. She took my grandfather to the USA in the late 50s or early 60s I believe. Many years ago he gifted me a postcard of QE that he got on his voyage that listed all the ship's stats and whatnot on the back. I was shocked to learn she went out in such an undignified way.
Well done: I enjoyed learning some new stuff and of course the footage was amazing. I did manage to sail on QE2 and stayed aboard Queen Mary Hotel in Long Beach. Different era indeed.
Thank you! I'm so glad you enjoyed the video!
@@BigOldBoats You should write a fictional movie about a plot by Cunard to destroy the Normandie with the French getting revenge 30 years later by burning the Elizabeth.
Another legend lost to the sea
Interesting to hear that you consider her "in the shadow" of Queen Mary. As a Brit, I always thought of it as the other way around.
Great video though, as are all your others.
QE was always in the shadow of the QM. QM was the more popular ship amongst the travelling public.
For some reason part 6 made me cry.
Those career statistics are pretty astounding. They also speak volumes about just how clever and reliable the technology had become.
Sad end, like Normandie (although the latter was sheer effing incompetence and bloodymindedness).
A crooked deal done in Hong Kong; what a shock!
Keep these videos up! Love this content!
Thank you! Really glad you're liking it!
Hardly forgotten, seen everytime The Man With The Golden Gun is on TV and there is a huge mural in the main atrium of her in the stairwell of the current Cunard Queen Elizabeth.
An extremely interesting and captivating look at the history, and stories behind some of the finest sea going Vessels ever built by man! A Beautifully presented and narrated documentary, I just had to keep watching, even though it’s 02.45 in the morning here in England. More please! I’ve liked and subscribed to your channel too!
I loved all of your side comments which pretty much mirrored mine
Couldn’t say it’s forgotten, it’s just underappreciated
In 1965 or 1966, we went on a family holiday to Bournemouth in southern England - we went two consecutive years so I can't be sure which year it was. We went on a day trip to Southampton and took a small launch for a tour of the harbour. We came up alongside the Queen Elizabeth and I can remember the goosebumps when our tiny boat went alongside - the ship towered over us. Never forgot that experience and was so sad when she met her demise.
Great Film, thanks. The Queen Elizabeth was indeed fortunate in escaping the attentions of the Luftwaffe, her birthplace the town of Clydebank was, however, less fortunate. A year after her departure the town of Clydebank was flattened over two nights of bombing, 1,200 were killed, out of 12,000 houses only eight were undamaged and 35,000 were made homeless. Ironically the shipyard which was the target escaped relatively unharmed and was soon back in production.
5:52, ha the only cruise I've ever been on was on Carnival Destiny back in 2003. I was only 7 at the time and didn't realise she was such a significant ship then.
A relative took the Elizabeth across as a soldier during WW2. He remembered everyone having to stand at attention as she left NY, as she was practically scraping the bottom of the harbor. (What with the weight of all the additional bodies.) He came back on a Victory ship, and Mary passed them like they were standing still.
I wish you had been my history teacher in when I was in high school with these types of presentations. You make all of your videos so interesting. Thank you much!!
About six years ago, it was probably 150th anniversary of the Cunard Line, the three current big Cunard
Liners appeared on the River Mersey together. That was pretty amazing and a big spectacle
Served on her for 5yrs in the 60s..A memorable time going to memorable places working alongside memorable crewe.She will always be my Queen. 🚢👋🇬🇧
RMS Queen Elizabeth died way long before she reached H.K. After being auction off to another owner who's intentions was to converted for another purpose is what demised her. R. I. P.
I am loving these videos - many thanks
I grew up with the Queen Mary in my backyard in Long Beach and have visited her many times. She is actually haunted!
Big fan mate. Keep up the good work!
One of the most beautiful ship ever constructed, it’s sad she met her end like this
I was an over excited boy of five and a half when the boat train (steam) ended its journey at Southampton. It was a cold day in the last week of january nineteen sixty five and my family and myself were on their way to NYC on The Lizzie. I`ve always considered myself lucky to be on that amazing ship even though the weather in the Atlantic was awful, one would not think such a large ship would pitch about so much but it did. I`ve recently discovered from an old Cunard employee that I was very fortunate as when we left Southampton and headed up down the Solent the Queen Mary was coming in, this was unusual he said as they normally passed somewhere mid ocean.
I think the ship was wonderful in her size and shape
It’s sad the great ship gone
Rewatch this often. Love it. Love the ship. Well done
You make really good content and you deserve more subscribers
Thank you!
Love knowing more about these old liners.
I do have a direct connection to the Cunarders as my paternal grandfather was Commander on the Mauritania and then the Aquitania. I’d love to see more info either or both ships. Unfortunately I never knew him he died before I was born but it still gives me a direct link to the ocean liners. They fascinate me and your channel is so well put together and interesting.
Why did a boat video just make me so sad? Pouring one out for the queen tonight
I say "Here here"! One of the greatest!
None of the other ships starred in a James Bond movie!
She's definitely not forgotten, if only for that iconic appearance
This video is actually genuinely underated and damm.
British ocean liners after being overshadowed by the normadie, being in a battle for the blue ribband and being the biggest and most luxurious ocean liners then being the laste ones left:
Are you not entertained??
I actually genuinely agree with you and finally some one who l found in the comment section that actually has a functioning brain for once and this world actually genuinely needs more people actually like you in this world and you actually couldn't have said that actually any better than me lol ❤😂🎉.
Amazing work. Tx.
It's so sad that the Oceanic was the only one not built. Out of all the Ocean Liners from the 1930s.
There is no question that the Normandy was and still is the most beautiful ocean liner ever. Second place is is still up in the air. Rex and her sister are viable. QMary is in the running, but my choice is the Queen Elisabeth!
She was a grand ship. My second favorite liner after the S.S. United States which is slowly rotting in Philadelphia Harbor
So is your 3rd favourite ocean liner the RMS Queen Mary or RMS Queen Mary 2
@@ivangenov6782 Actually, my 3rd favorite is the SS France of blessed memory
@@jonnysouthjersey oh, thanks for answering and sorry if i sounded a bit rude I don't speak that well english
@@ivangenov6782 it is never rude to ask a question. My English is not always so good, and it is my first language. :-)
@@jonnysouthjersey knowing myself your english is good so don't worry
This is when ships were beautiful. Not unlike the ugly ships being built now.
I think comments like these are quite stupid. ships serve different purposes these days and that's okay? overall the efficiency of ships has greatly improved and newer ships are engineering marvels. The size and power of ships have greatly changed and whether "aesthetically" they are different ships have and always will evolve. if you don't think ignorant people in the turn of the century were looking at things like the Lusitania and Titanic and being like "I miss the good old days of sailing and wooden ships" you would be incorrect. growth happens over time. in 150 years ships might not even be on the water and maybe like airships or hovercraft. only time will tell. They serve their purpose as "Cruise liners" absurdly well, and the concept of leisure liners was created in the 30s for aging and crumbling ships to have a purpose, it's not a new concept to build cruise ships. they don't need the features to do transatlantic crossings and to be honest, that's okay. every video I see stuff like this and you come off as ignorant like- Ships have evolved and the need for transatlantic passenger liners has diminished. and even if they had carried on into the 21'st century like qm2 things like balconies and better passenger accommodations and technological advancements so ships didn't have fires every 10 years or have major collisions- is very nessacry to the survival of passenger naval vessels as a whole. Just be glad that passenger ships found a new purpose and the industry didn't completely disappear.
Well said.
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Get lost Louis August’s. I have no interest in what you have to say. You are full of hot air. Tell it to someone that cares.
@@samueljaramillo4221 what do you expect from the 21th century designs blame the economy not the whole cruise ship and cruise line itself and if a cruise line spends money for an ocean liner to be build it would be useless how you ask?
think about airlines
@@louisaugustexvi4515 Of course ships evolve like anything else but evolution doesn´t have to mean cheap looking kitschy designs which most modern cruise ships have. Externally they could also look far more like ships, for example the current Queen Mary 2. Fortunately, very recently some of the smaller new cruise ships have better interiors looking less like Vegas on the ocean so maybe there´s a change happening right now. The greatest advantage of the modern designs is better cabin facilities but having sailed on ships many times in the past, long haul and cruises, I didn´t find the cabin limitations important as I spent little time there, much more interesting interacting with other passengers and enjoying the public rooms.
Wow. Just tought about this. Since the goverment gave enough funds for a running mate for the queen mary and it was still the Cunard White Star Line imagine if they restored the plans for the Oceanic III instead of building a new ship like the QE. Imagine R.M.M.V Oceanic and R.M.S Queen Mary as running mates.
The wreck appeared in the James Bond Movie "The Man with the Golden Gun" as an MI6 Field headquarters
After all the hubbub about the Rex.... I felt like rewatching something from your chanel... Love this video.. Such great footage of this old beauty.. If you haven't seen it yet, get your hands on a copy of Clive Harvey's book Queen Elizabeth... its a beautiful, very detailed tome....
Thank you! I love these.
So glad you like them!
@@BigOldBoats They are great! I applaud you!
Love these vids! I'm glad you upgraded your mic setup, this one sounds a little like you are in an overturned canoe! Lol! Again, thank you for these detailed and accessible snapshots!
Interesting video. I think that the Cunard Line should have completed the build of the Oceanic III as both ships were under construction when the depression hit. However as this never happened. The Queen Elizabeth was a beautiful liner and of the two I prefer the Queen Elizabeth, and there is a part of me that wishes she was docked in Long Beach instead of the Queen Mary.
Thank you! The Oceanic III would have such been a game changer. I really wonder what would have happened if she was completed.
It might be the White Star Line that survived and the Cunard Line was now gone. But we will never know.
Honestly, my favorite large liner is Queen Elizabeth. If she was given the same worth as her sister, she would've never burned and sank. Also, when we visited Hong Kong where QE was buried, there was a small plaque near the entrance of one of the ports where it stated that this is where Queen Elizabeth lies. Not sure if it's still there or it's been removed. It didn't came from Britain nor Cunard but possibly someone who fell in love with the ship after they boarded her.
I hope it's still there! She deserves a tribute.
Great work, this is the content I would like to watch on social media, especially on YT instead of watching shared pictures or content that doesn’t mean anything and is done only for taking views (and cash in the result). I prefer QE as well, don't like much her older sister QM - for her interiors and external design. You really did a great job creating 20-minutes minidocumentary, but covering each important topic which relates to her. Even though I know her story quite good, I learned few new things from this video. Well done and keep doing so 👌👍
Thank you so much, glad you enjoyed!
People have forgotten this wonderful Ocean Liner, and the Rolling Mary overshadowed her.
"Cunard's Atlantic dominance was challenged in 1952, when the S.S. United States entered the scene and shattered Queen Mary's speed record."
Had to rewind that 8 times: t'was music to my ears. Get rekt Britain XD #America Back on topic, you did a fantastic job telling the story of one of the greatest liners in history. I mean you attracted the attention of OlympicWS, one of the best history travel channels on TH-cam and one of the OGs for crying out loud. It's a shame her life ended the way it did. At least she was buried, so in some way, she still went out in dignity. Really glad I found your channel as I love hearing about the stories of the great liners as well as other engineering marvels and moments of history from different perspectives. You've earned yourself a sub. Keep it up: I'm gonna binge your newest videos as soon as I have time. As the saying goes, Welcome to the Atlantic. :)
The Queen Mary and the Queen Elizabeth were together in Sydney Harbour in 1940.
Why couldn't the Queen Elizabeth also be docked with Queen Mary at Long Beach just like USS The Sullivans and USS Little Rock?
Sir Percy Bates: "I have good news and some bad news"
-"Good news is that the ship will be named after the Queen."
-"The Bad news is that it's not the Queen we wanted"
A newcomer to this channel/series: well put together and informative (being a ocean liner buff, I already knew most of the info being presented here lol).
One point of personal contention though (more nitpicking tbh): I wouldn't call her forgetten per-se, just overshadowed by her elder half-sister/running mate. She certainly isn't forgotten here in the town of her birth (Clydebank). Fills me with pride (with a hint of bittersweetness given how it's all been swept away) that I live less than 4 miles north of where she was built.
Imagine how much difference the Normandie could've made if she too was used as a troop ship during the war
However WE do have a non-forgotten queen!
Miss Pette Buttiget, REAR Admiral, and Queenlette of Transportation 💄💋
I wouldn’t say forgotten since the Queen Elizabeth 2, it’s Successor, is now a Museum in Dubai,
But what would describe this ship as “Cunard’s LOST Queen”.
after she was retired, she was sold to a Chinese company to become a Floating university, Unfortunately during her fitting out in that role, She suffered the same fate as her older Sister’s French competitor,
the SS Normandie.
She caught Fire in 1974 and partially sank from both the Fire Damage, and the Water that was used to put out the fire that already caused said damage,
Scrappers dismantled the parts of the wreck that were above water, all that’s supposedly left is bits of her hull and keel.
Read recently that the Queen Mary is closed to the public for urgent repairs. The ship is in rough shape underneath the water line and rusting away, that could cause it it to sink. City of Long Beach is suppose to be doing the most urgent repairs and less urgent ones later on. Touring this ship is on my bucket list.