Yeah...as much as I like Other M, that "last boss" is indefensible. Of all of Sakamoto's questionable design choices in that game, I don't get having the revived Mother Brain be a short point and click boss. That's honestly the only thing in the game more confusing than Samus' PTSD moment. As least Phantoon somewhat made up for it in the end.
If they were literally gonna humanize Mother Brain, I think one thing they should have done was give Mother Brain her own power suit. And I know what you're thinking: "and make it yet ANOTHER mirror match?" Not quite; MB is a clone of Mother Brain, not Samus. Find a way to have MB tap into her inner Chozo origins and gear up out of nowhere. Samus can take on and off the power suit at will, so maybe MB can have one as part of the Federation's experiment. She'd be just as agile as Samus making for a very intense fight and justify Samus confronting her. And I am sure some if you will say that Mother Brain is more of a leader type and it wouldn't make sense for her to have a power suit. Well, explain her monster form in Super Metroid! To quote Invader Zim, it's got chicken legs!
And he was a decent "heavy" for Amy's team (albeit that being the easiest team in the game) in Sonic Heroes. The fact he hasn't shown up since Dark Brotherhood seems to be less because the character is hated and more because SEGA doesn't know what to do with him.
I actually like the ChuChu boss battle because for the first time in a Zelda series, something so simple, so normal could become that "dangerous" - i.e elevated to boss status - due to Link's miniaturised size. It's a nice change of perspective.
I'll say it again. Harmony of Dissonance is my guilty pleasure. It's not as good as other CV games but it was the first CV I finished seriously and it gave me sweet memories.
I mean even with how people would sh*t at it, Harmony of Dissonance (despite being Obviously weakest in Gba games, and having the Weakest Plot in game, and having a Weakest roster of Bosses and having the Weakest Belmont) is still a good game. CASTLEVANIA 64 ON THE OTHER HAND - THAT GAME IS OBJECTIVELY THE WORST 3d CASTLEVANIA GAME, OUT OF ALL FOUR OF THEM (excluding Judgement, because that's a Spin off, and do I need to explain why Lords of the Shadows are not Castlevania?). BUT EVEN THEN, I STILL ENJOY THIS GAME, FOR MOMENTS THAT IT GAVE TO ME.
I... don't really understand what your problem is about the Big Green ChuChu. Let me explain. From what I gathered, all you basically said about it is that "making a weak regular enemy into a boss was a dumb idea". But in the case of this game, I have to disagree. A good chunk of Minish Cap revolves around the dangers of being Minish-sized. So I think it was rather clever to have one of the weakest regular enemies step in, showing us that even weaklings can be boss material when you're so tiny. Plus, despite being a boss, it behaves just like a normal ChuChu, which makes sense since it literally _is_ a normal ChuChu. Problem is, you can't just slash away with your Minish-sized sword, forcing you to think outside the box, further emphasizing the point that "being a Minish makes the world much more dangerous".
One question still stands why is a normal chu chu the guardian of the earth element like imagine if link had found this one specific chu chu while normal size
2:33-I’d also defend Agatha,but I jokingly call her the Poison Type Master,because her entire team is at least Poison Type. Ironically her entire team is also weak to Psychic,because Poison is the Gastly line’s main type.
You know, if Mega man was going to use a giant Metall as a boss, couldn't they have at least called it a "Heavy Metall?" At least that name would still fit with the theme of the characters being named after music!
At least the Dumb Drum is over with relatively quickly. A much worse enemy-rush boss is Showtime from Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon. It's a ghost possessing a giant clock that spawns enemies and can hurt you by swinging the clock hands. It spawns enemies, you beat enemies, the clock moves ahead one hour, repeat. The worst part is that when it reaches 11 o'clock, right before the end, it spawns a bunch of the kamikaze bomb enemies that can easily swarm and kill you, forcing you to go through the whole tedious ordeal again.
8. 5:47 Laughing my ass off at that joke. 3. Sorry, no epic drum solo. P.S. my favorite is the one from Edgar Winter's Frankenstein 1. Yea, I'm not to fond of "bosses" that never attack you and go down with one hit either. [cough] Lucien...
10: Here's hoping the remakes fix this 9: Wow. That's Lazy 8: I love that ending bit 7: Your Party wins by doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! Dumb yet funny idea 6: Despite this Idea being bad, I had a lot of fun with this boss 5: TIMBEEEEER 4: Why can't Konami let us have good things 3: The name did give me a laugh 2: The infamous Sonic boss 1: Oh wow. OH WOW
Funny thing about that met boss fight in megaman 4, there was a hack called rockman 4 minus infinity and instead of fighting a stage full of mets it was full of sniper joes. At the end you fought a giant mm 7 joe who used protoman's pattern. It was pretty cool to see (also you could ride the joe vehicles).
I mean I can see where gamefreak was going with Flint's team, but having a team of poofy/fluffy based Pokémon in an afro donning trainer is off putting when he's the only one who does this.
Technically MB went rogue because they were planning on erasing her personality to use her more as a weapon. That's a much more reasonable reason to go rogue. She was perfectly fine when Dr Bergman was playing daughter substitute with her.
*I'm going to make frequent prayers to Madoka Kaname to ensure that Metroid Prime 4 will be in Metroid fans' positive expectations. That and bring back to what Metroid was supposed to be.*
Worst idea for a boss fight that I can think of is Wargoyle instead Frolo. Sure Wargoyle is aggressive as hell and challenging, but that's all he has going for him. Frolo is a symbolic hell fire angel.
+Dreigonix Well I will say that designwise it does make sense. Hell Wargoyle might as well be Frollo's Heartless. Now that I think about it I think they could make up for it by having a fight with Frollo where the second phase is a fight with Wargoyle showing that Wargoyle IS Frollo's Heartless. It would certainly be a creative way to bring back a boss from Dream Drop Distance am I right?
I mean, given that Flint's entire team has Fire-type moves across the board one could argue that's how he specializes in Fire-types, but yeah having only TWO Fire-types in the game? I love my copy of Diamond but I have to draw the line.
"13:20 All of the bosses in (the first Donkey Kong Country game) ASIDE FROM KING K. ROOL HIMSELF are just larger enemies in the first place." King K. Rool is a larger Kremling, and is particularly similar to Klump (protective layer of fat, protective headgear).
Naw, I can come up with worse, a goomba, however it dies in a pit due to the stage design, than you have to answer an question, and if you guess wrong, it erases all your switch data.
the mime job is broken each job has positive and negative stat modifiers, the Mime job takes all the positive stat modifiers for each mastered job, and once mastered it gives this effect to the Freelancer, so mime with its 3 skill slots is the best mage job and Freelancer is the best phisical or hybrid job
The Bowser Jr boss fight in Mario Party 9 should have been on here. A completely luck based boss?! As if Mario Party wasn't luck based enough! Didn't you already talk about that boss in a previous countdown? Or am I thinking of a different countdown maker?
He mentioned it during his ancient Most Hated Characters list (Bowser Jr. was on it). It's possible he either forgot about that boss (which is likely, as Mario Party 9 is kind of unmemorable in general) or he felt that these other bosses deserved their spots more. Personally, I probably would have replaced Flint for that "boss" minigame, but it's his list.
Well with Flint from what I have heard his Diamond and Pearl fight is harder then his Platinum fight. I wouldn't know since I never got to the Elite Four in DP and only fought him in Platinum.
Saphiria TheBlueDragonKnight His fight in DP is only hard if you don't have a counter for Drifblim. You likely already have a counter for his Infernape, Rapidash, and Steelix at this point in the adventure (especially if you chose Piplup at the start), and his Lopunny isn't exactly a threat. Drifblim can be annoying if you have neither a Dark, Ghost, Ice, Electric, or Rock type Pokemon, all of which Sinnoh gives you quite a few of even in DP. I'd hardly call it a harder fight, even if his Platinum team is monotyped.
You know what's funny? I would need 2 flame shields to say that I like Bowser Jr. and Mario Party 9. You know what's even funnier? One time, during the story mode, I finished his boss mini game with 39 points. Everyone else had 0. HOW DID I EVEN-
Just stating though, the Clown Prix/Krome Keeper (take your pick) from Pac Man World were also dumb boss fights, but for very different reasons (one of them isn't even a boss, it's an easy race that's classified as a boss)
Also... to think I used to DEFEND Other M. I mean, the gameplay wasn't bad for the most part, and it was cool that they brought back Nightmare and Phantoon. But the more I thought about it, the more it sunk in that they bastardized one of my favorite video game characters and one of the most badass and awesome heroines in gaming by far, making her into a situationally-helpless anti-feminist mockery (whether purposefully or not), and the more it PISSED ME OFF. Add to that the inexcusable final boss "battle" and I can safely consign this disgrace to the Infinity Void with Gorea. (Also, slightly off-topic, but am I the only one who prefers the wild-haired and muscular Zero Suit Samus from Fusion over the finalized version we usually see? >.> )
Yeah. Other M has some of the worst storywriting in gaming history. Not to mention they absolutely botched Samus. At least the gameplay is ok. Just be glad you weren't defending Mega Man X7. That would be completely unforgivable.
That's what we're saying. Good play and design, but character portrayals were absolutely horrific. At least it isn't X7, tho. That one's bad across the entire board.
+XZeroStone It could be worse. He could be trying to defend a Yu-Gi-Oh opinion against Daviantor who seems to think that being 100% objective makes him immune to criticism.
10: Yeah. At least Platinum fixed him. 9: I'm kinda disappointed by the lack of Power Rangers "Make My Monster Grow" jokes. 8: Not disappointed by the Spongebob joke. 7: Wasn't he in FFVI and did the same thing as well? 6: Not surprised this was here. 5: At least it's the first boss (except the "refight"). 4: I'm noticing a trend here with normal monsters gone big. 3: Who was the "genius" who thought of that name? And World 5?! And DKC1 did the Big Enemy thing with every fight?!! 2: "Boss Fight". 1: I would've just taken a monster rush of whatever the bug things were called. An it's not considered OK on any planet. Just on the Bottle Ship.
So for flints team in D/P 2 fire types since fire Drifblim since hot ari balloon Steelix since he loves near the earths core Lopunny since its hot for... Other reasons.
Don't worry. Even these Guys have Adoring Fanbases for them. Every Boss Type has their Fans Honestly, And I Think that's Great. ^^ (Hell, Even I Love these Types of Bosses due to what they can get away with, Weather it's their Design or how you have to fight them.)
I can understand the time limit on Gogo because you can drown. Also, Flint’s not the first trainer who usually uses one type and barely used another type unless there was no choice like Agatha or Lance to use other types. (Coughs) Pokemon Stadium Gym Leaders. (Coughs)
Coincidentally, Roger the Potted Ghost is the only boss in Yoshi’s Island that’s not based on an enemy. It’s based off... a flower vase. This game had a variety of enemies, yet they couldn’t come up with one more to put in World 2-8 as a boss?!
Final boss from Overlord 2. It's an enemy rush, a slime, and it is five long an tedious stages. The eleven weak points that you have to destroy multiple times every stage even heal if you take to long.
Reactions no-one cares about: 10: I dunno if I want to say anything about Pokemon bosses, since Bosses in Pokemon are generally just several pokemon fought one after another. 9: I knew I would get angry at this list. I think the Mettal.... Met... Metal..... Erm.... the Hard Hat Daddy is brilliant! ...In concept. The boss itself kinda sucks, but the idea behind it is good! ...In my opinion, that is. But nobody cares about my opinion. 8: Ok, That IS pretty dumb. 7: That would actually be pretty clever if there wasn't a harsh time limit. 6: Final bosses that don't attack you are just lame. Unless it's Gradius. Gradius gets away with it. Somehow. 5: How did I not guess this was going to be on here? I need to play more Zelda. 4: No comment. Nothing to add to this one. 3: Ditto. 2: FISHING: THE BOSS BATTLE! ....That was a really bad joke. I'm sorry. I just didn't want to say ditto again. 1: You know, I actually like Other M. A lot. Yeah it's very flawed, and its story sucked, and its controls could have been better, but beneath all that was a pretty good game. Admittedly, that's mostly because it's my FIRST Metroid game. But I still think it gets too much hate. BUT MB SUCKED. EVERYTHING ABOUT THAT BOSS SUCKED. I hate it. I HATE IT! I died SO many times to the Queen, got to MB, and died a lot in that fight. And I died some more. And I started getting really angry because I didn't want to take a break and have to fight the Queen Metroid again. And then.... AND THEN.... I looked at her. I LOOKED AT THE FINAL BOSS, BY ACCIDENT, AND WON. What. WHAT?! THAT was the final boss? I didn't even see that coming. That shouldn't have been the final boss! That had no build up! There was nothing indicating that I was about to fight the final boss AND THEN I WIN BY LOOKING AT HER. You don't even get to fight her. She gets killed by some jerks. You don't even get to fight the final boss. ARGHERERSATERSMTHSS! Other M was ok but the story was a trainwreck.
3:53 QuarterGuy It was due to the success of the Giant Mets that Dr. Wily decided to create this bad boy to guard the first section of Wily Castle 4 in case Cossack stopped fighting when his daughter Kalinka was rescued and Mega Man set his sights on the VA’s good Skull Doctor friend. 12:34-14:10 Awww, come on Quart! It’s kinda cool. Gamers get to have some good fighting, and the Kremling Krew has a follower. Still, K. Rool’s in Smash Bros. Ultimate.
I think the Chu Chu as a first boss isn’t as dumb as it first seems. Think about it: Link has been shrunk down, meaning things larger than him are even more threatening than if he were larger. The Chu Chu looks goofy and silly, but think of how it looks to Link from his new perspective. He sees a giant imposing creature, and if he sees the face, it isn’t just dopey-looking; it’s uncaring. For Link, he realizes something important: EVERYTHING IS DANGEROUS WHEN YOU ARE SMALL. If it was a later boss, it would fall flat. If it was something that looked scary, it wouldn’t have given the same impression because of course Link is dealing with something dangerous. That was why it had to be something that looked as nonthreatening as possible, to show off that danger. I hope I have changed some minds about that boss. And if you disagree, I will gladly hear your reasonings!
The Game boy port for donkey Kong country 1 does have an interesting change up for Dumb Drum. After you defeat the enemies it spawns and tries to stomp you... A TNT barrel shows up and you have to chuck it at him to do damage
My favorite RM has to be Gravity Man, my favorite MM game has to be X5 (my favorite classic series game is 7), and my favorite maverick is Sting Chameleon.
RM: If fanmade ones count, then Rainbow Man from Unlimited. But from the official, Dynamo Man from &Bass. Game: Classic- 8 X- Either X7 or X4. Zero- 3 Legends- haven’t played. Starforce- 2 BattleNetwork- Transmission or BN6. Advent > ZX. Maverick: Flame Hyenard. Yeah, I like X7. It may be hated by most people, but, hey, that’s your opinion.
You know QG with all the praise you give bosses, I have heard you give any love to the megaman zero bosses, other than omega. You gotta correct that man!
Say what you will about the Sonic Adventure games, but SA2 will always hold a special place in my heart for being my all-time favorite Sonic game in the series. ;)
10. BURRRRRN!!!!! 9. Why is this a thing? 8. Memes. 7. LUIGI WINS BY DOING NOTHING. 6. Run away, don't wait! 5. TIMBER!!!!!!!!!!! 4. It's also SOOOOOO SLOOOOOW!!!! 3. A giant barrel.... Really? 2. That was even stupid, even I can't forget him... 1. HOW IS THAT EVEN FUN?! IT'S ANNOYING! Samus returns did that much better...
There’s Another big slime boss, King Slime from Terraria, but King Slime has a bit more than just jump around, if you get too far away it teleports to you and a bunch of normal slimes follow him. The way to spawn him is to hard for like, one of the easiest bosses in the game, though it drops my favorite mount so I guess that’s fair
10. It is sad they had a Fire Elite in such a cold region, but IIRC, at least his other Pokemon had some form of Fire attacks. That's... something. Also, the Ice and Electric Gym Leaders had Pokemon outside those types in Diamond and Pearl (Candice's Medicham and Volkner's Ambipom and Octillery), but the same elemental logic applies. 9. I actually like Mega Man 4, but I can admit this was a dumb boss. 8. Maybe if those flames were faster or if Roger didn't push you immediately after spewing them, he could've been some kind of threat. 7. 6. Unlike 7, I won't say anything not because it's funny but because I have nothing to say. Haven't played Crash Bandicoot since I was... seven, maybe? 5. Not sure if this boss is really that lame, considering you have to fight it in a different way than you're used to fighting it. 4. Salvo will see you in court, Max. 3. Enemy Rush / 10. Maybe it could've been intimidating if they used Krushas (or whatever the buff mohawk Kremlings were called). 2. At least Amy's one boss was an actual boss fight. 1. I'll have to replay Other M at some point to re-evalute if it was as bad as I remember. When the game was first released, I actually disliked the Sensimove gimmick, the QTEs, and the controls in general (in addition to the sketchy story), giving me a much lower opinion of the game than everyone else seemed to have (many I knew would say "at least the gameplay is good", and I would respond "Not really"), but I should play it again to give it a fair shot. But even if my opinion does rise, this moment still seems worthy of ire.
Another comment said he worked at WayForward Technologies in the past. If you've played a licensed game on a Game Boy Advance or DS based on a cartoon series odds are good WayForward worked on it. They've also done the Shantae series and DuckTales: Remastered.
Another of my least favorite boss ideas is a boss fight that is invincible for large periods of time. It can work in the context of someone like Dimentio to emphasize how they've attained godlike status temporarily. But what I'm talking about are those BS bosses that employ cheap tactics to make the battle longer and more aggrivating. Like, say, a frog living in an ocean of lava. The gameplay of Kirby can be often pretty well paced, particularly in their boss fights. So isn't it cool how Pyribbit from Triple Deluxe can just completely break the pacing by being completely untouchable in the background? There are bosses that you need to dodge before gaining the opportunity to safely damage them, but I'm not thrilled to spend minutes at a time waiting for such opportunity. At least there's no time limit... Unlike his Super Fighters version!
Hey QG? Can #1 even be considered the final boss of the game? Because there is another boss you fight after this one that the game poses as the true final boss of the game.
That you can't even fight if you go on Hard Mode. And lets be honest, why would you play Hard Mode in Other M? I mean, sure, there are those who like it, but there's literally no point to it.
GalaxiaKnightX Well that's your opinion, and you are free to voice an opinion that may be unpopular. I can't fault you for your personal opinion about something even if I disagree.
That last "fight" with MB at the end of Other M is as much a boss fight as the final boss fight of Other M as the cutscene battle with human Sephiroth where Cloud just does the Omnislash is the final battle of FF7. The M.B. thing was an active cutscene...NOT a Boss Fight. If you want to call anything a final boss fight of Other M, it's either the Queen Metroid or Phantoon...
One other idea of a dumb boss is to make you do something that you weren't expected to do throughout the game. For example, stealth segments in an action game suck. But the opposite is also true. In the case of Deus Ex Human Revolution, prior to the director's cut, the problem was that the bosses were made by designers who didn't know Human Revolution was mostly a stealth game. Hence why you fight them like you would in a Rainbow Six game. In that you need to shoot, take cover, shoot, take cover, repeat. But even if you do take cover, the first boss especially will overwhelm you with his own onslaught. Again, the problem was fixed in the Director's Cut which gives you the option to hide and work your way around to the backrooms and get some auto turrets which further highlights how vanilla HR didn't quite take stealth builds into account.
Great choice of music for the opening part! The derpy boss theme of Yoshi's New Island perfectly matches it. 10. I completely agree, this was a stupid choice on their part. 9. Yeah. 8. Much easier than I remember 7. I heard it's a stupid boss 6. Dumb. BTW for the first time, all of these are from games I've played! ...so far. 5. So far I agree with all of these 4. Well, looks like we have our first boss on here that isn't from a game I've played. 3. I don't know how, but for some reason I knew you were building up to him when I saw the icon. But this boss can actually mess you up with the worker guys if you have Diddy Kong, since I can't remember if there's any way to beat them with Diddy 2. One of the easiest bosses EVER 1. I HATE THIS BOSS!!!!!
I agree with Number 1. Great build-up, disappointing Boss. Thankfully, spoilers, Phantoon returned as a secret boss, and a great one at that. Much better tha his fight in Super Metroid.
To be honest I’m surprised you didn’t include the boss from sonic The dark brotherhood I’d argue that you’d have to do even less in order to win that fight, that’s one of the easiest supersonic battles ever
Yeah...as much as I like Other M, that "last boss" is indefensible. Of all of Sakamoto's questionable design choices in that game, I don't get having the revived Mother Brain be a short point and click boss. That's honestly the only thing in the game more confusing than Samus' PTSD moment.
As least Phantoon somewhat made up for it in the end.
If they were literally gonna humanize Mother Brain, I think one thing they should have done was give Mother Brain her own power suit. And I know what you're thinking: "and make it yet ANOTHER mirror match?" Not quite; MB is a clone of Mother Brain, not Samus. Find a way to have MB tap into her inner Chozo origins and gear up out of nowhere. Samus can take on and off the power suit at will, so maybe MB can have one as part of the Federation's experiment. She'd be just as agile as Samus making for a very intense fight and justify Samus confronting her. And I am sure some if you will say that Mother Brain is more of a leader type and it wouldn't make sense for her to have a power suit. Well, explain her monster form in Super Metroid! To quote Invader Zim, it's got chicken legs!
@@WillieManga Or just do more with MB's apparent psychic powers. That works too.
Well, to be fair about Big, he’s a good party member in The Dark Brotherhood. And he’s actually useful.
And he was a decent "heavy" for Amy's team (albeit that being the easiest team in the game) in Sonic Heroes. The fact he hasn't shown up since Dark Brotherhood seems to be less because the character is hated and more because SEGA doesn't know what to do with him.
Honestly, that’s sad if his only better use is in a bad RPG and a frustrating team-based game (I love and hate Sonic Heroes for the record)
Plus Team Sonic Racing
that's cheap & lazy 3:42
To be honest I’m surprised that the final boss from the dark brotherhood isn’t on this list
"Knuckles from the Knuckles May Chuckle series"
Help! Someone! QG just murdered me.
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Oh no!
I actually like the ChuChu boss battle because for the first time in a Zelda series, something so simple, so normal could become that "dangerous" - i.e elevated to boss status - due to Link's miniaturised size. It's a nice change of perspective.
Oh magic conch shell, What must we do to defeat the famed mimic Gogo?
Conch shell: Nothing! The conch has spoken!
+VoltingMaster Me: Okay Magic Conch will me making videos apologizing to TH-camrs I sent stupid comments towards be going overboard? Conch: Maybe.
ALL HAIL THE MAGIC CONCH
oh no no NO NO NO! *NO!*
(pulls out a disintegration beam and shoots the Conch with it)
Ahh, much better.
It's not exactly rocket surgery, people!
~ The Quarter Guy, 2017
7:01 Luigi wins by doing absolutely nothing
+GamerShyGuy EXACTLY. That's Luigi Wins By Doing Absolutely nothing the boss fight.
OOOOOOOOOOHHHHH now i get it
The Quarter Guy must know Level UP.
Before watching: *Thinks*
Gee, you'd think Dr. Wily would come up with an inescapable room filled with death spikes way before a Spring Man.
After watching:
I just predicted the next countdown withour realizing it.
He actually used that in the original version of the worst robot masters countdown!
Well then. I know what I'm going to go re-watch.
Springman: Huuuhhh?😦
Ohhhhhh~......😢😢
+NexusX *TheMetalBlade5 shows up and tears spring man a new one*
I finished my "meh" list so I could watch this and Fawful's list in peace. The true amount of pain these bosses bring... is knowing they exist.
cjszero01 I know you >.>
I'll say it again.
Harmony of Dissonance is my guilty pleasure. It's not as good as other CV games but it was the first CV I finished seriously and it gave me sweet memories.
I mean even with how people would sh*t at it, Harmony of Dissonance (despite being Obviously weakest in Gba games, and having the Weakest Plot in game, and having a Weakest roster of Bosses and having the Weakest Belmont) is still a good game.
CASTLEVANIA 64 ON THE OTHER HAND - THAT GAME IS OBJECTIVELY THE WORST 3d CASTLEVANIA GAME, OUT OF ALL FOUR OF THEM (excluding Judgement, because that's a Spin off, and do I need to explain why Lords of the Shadows are not Castlevania?). BUT EVEN THEN, I STILL ENJOY THIS GAME, FOR MOMENTS THAT IT GAVE TO ME.
I... don't really understand what your problem is about the Big Green ChuChu.
Let me explain. From what I gathered, all you basically said about it is that "making a weak regular enemy into a boss was a dumb idea". But in the case of this game, I have to disagree.
A good chunk of Minish Cap revolves around the dangers of being Minish-sized. So I think it was rather clever to have one of the weakest regular enemies step in, showing us that even weaklings can be boss material when you're so tiny. Plus, despite being a boss, it behaves just like a normal ChuChu, which makes sense since it literally _is_ a normal ChuChu. Problem is, you can't just slash away with your Minish-sized sword, forcing you to think outside the box, further emphasizing the point that "being a Minish makes the world much more dangerous".
ShycoWar 👏👏👏
i think he would just say: "i don't care about the context, it's still a fucking stupid boss idea!"
One question still stands why is a normal chu chu the guardian of the earth element like imagine if link had found this one specific chu chu while normal size
@@bubbatown7714 perhaps the ones who helped design the temple were minish sized
@@medusathedecepticon that's actually a nice point
2:33-I’d also defend Agatha,but I jokingly call her the Poison Type Master,because her entire team is at least Poison Type. Ironically her entire team is also weak to Psychic,because Poison is the Gastly line’s main type.
You know, if Mega man was going to use a giant Metall as a boss, couldn't they have at least called it a "Heavy Metall?" At least that name would still fit with the theme of the characters being named after music!
At least the Dumb Drum is over with relatively quickly. A much worse enemy-rush boss is Showtime from Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon. It's a ghost possessing a giant clock that spawns enemies and can hurt you by swinging the clock hands. It spawns enemies, you beat enemies, the clock moves ahead one hour, repeat. The worst part is that when it reaches 11 o'clock, right before the end, it spawns a bunch of the kamikaze bomb enemies that can easily swarm and kill you, forcing you to go through the whole tedious ordeal again.
8. 5:47 Laughing my ass off at that joke.
3. Sorry, no epic drum solo.
P.S. my favorite is the one from Edgar Winter's Frankenstein
1. Yea, I'm not to fond of "bosses" that never attack you and go down with one hit either. [cough] Lucien...
holy shit a TWEWY fan
I'm pretty sure that Spongebob joke is gonna result in a content ID from Viacom.
Andrew Haase “we should take Bikini Bottom, and PUSH it somewhere else!”
lol xd patrick meme is funy
10: Here's hoping the remakes fix this
9: Wow. That's Lazy
8: I love that ending bit
7: Your Party wins by doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! Dumb yet funny idea
6: Despite this Idea being bad, I had a lot of fun with this boss
5: TIMBEEEEER
4: Why can't Konami let us have good things
3: The name did give me a laugh
2: The infamous Sonic boss
1: Oh wow. OH WOW
Lol the remakes didn't fix it
Somebody at Nintendo thought a good idea for a boss in NSMB was a giant goomba.
Funny thing about that met boss fight in megaman 4, there was a hack called rockman 4 minus infinity and instead of fighting a stage full of mets it was full of sniper joes. At the end you fought a giant mm 7 joe who used protoman's pattern. It was pretty cool to see (also you could ride the joe vehicles).
At least in the GBA version you had to throw a barrel at the drum to damage it, but it still wasn't a good boss.
I mean I can see where gamefreak was going with Flint's team, but having a team of poofy/fluffy based Pokémon in an afro donning trainer is off putting when he's the only one who does this.
I think the point was so that he'd have guys who have Fire type moves in their movepool.
@@ilikecurry2345 Like that Lopunny.
what about steelix?
Technically MB went rogue because they were planning on erasing her personality to use her more as a weapon. That's a much more reasonable reason to go rogue. She was perfectly fine when Dr Bergman was playing daughter substitute with her.
*I'm going to make frequent prayers to Madoka Kaname to ensure that Metroid Prime 4 will be in Metroid fans' positive expectations. That and bring back to what Metroid was supposed to be.*
Worst idea for a boss fight that I can think of is Wargoyle instead Frolo. Sure Wargoyle is aggressive as hell and challenging, but that's all he has going for him. Frolo is a symbolic hell fire angel.
I liked Wargoyle. Especially his stained-glass window wings that just REEK of symbolism. XD
Frolo? Are you talking about Kingdom Hearts or Caslevania?
HELLFIRE!
there's the problem, we don't fight frolo, one of the greatest Disney villains ever
+Dreigonix Well I will say that designwise it does make sense. Hell Wargoyle might as well be Frollo's Heartless. Now that I think about it I think they could make up for it by having a fight with Frollo where the second phase is a fight with Wargoyle showing that Wargoyle IS Frollo's Heartless. It would certainly be a creative way to bring back a boss from Dream Drop Distance am I right?
I mean, given that Flint's entire team has Fire-type moves across the board one could argue that's how he specializes in Fire-types, but yeah having only TWO Fire-types in the game? I love my copy of Diamond but I have to draw the line.
Ok, seriously, Metalls, Metools, Mettaurs, Metennas. HOW is there such a variety for such a basic enemy?
i think the first 2 are the same with different names
The Mets are part of the basic foundation of the mega man series.
The way I see it for #2, Big’s actions clear the way for Sonic to have HIS fight with Chaos 6. This changes absolutely nothing though.
Surprised you opted for the Mettool Boss from MM4 instead of Toad Man from the same game, seeing as how much more notoriously easy he is.
toad man CAN be your first boss on the playthrough
Toad Man can be easy, but he's not a dumb idea.
I have to disagree, fight toad man on the Sega game gear.
+ShardOfOmega Besides at least he has a Acid rain attack which could represent him being a toad affected by pollution.
I think the idea of a regular unchanged Chuchu being the boss when you've been shrunk is a really neat idea ._.
"13:20 All of the bosses in (the first Donkey Kong Country game) ASIDE FROM KING K. ROOL HIMSELF are just larger enemies in the first place."
King K. Rool is a larger Kremling, and is particularly similar to Klump (protective layer of fat, protective headgear).
Naw, I can come up with worse, a goomba, however it dies in a pit due to the stage design, than you have to answer an question, and if you guess wrong, it erases all your switch data.
Remember to play Big's Fishing Adventure 3 and buy Big's Audio Book.
the mime job is broken
each job has positive and negative stat modifiers, the Mime job takes all the positive stat modifiers for each mastered job, and once mastered it gives this effect to the Freelancer, so mime with its 3 skill slots is the best mage job and Freelancer is the best phisical or hybrid job
The Bowser Jr boss fight in Mario Party 9 should have been on here. A completely luck based boss?! As if Mario Party wasn't luck based enough! Didn't you already talk about that boss in a previous countdown? Or am I thinking of a different countdown maker?
He mentioned it during his ancient Most Hated Characters list (Bowser Jr. was on it). It's possible he either forgot about that boss (which is likely, as Mario Party 9 is kind of unmemorable in general) or he felt that these other bosses deserved their spots more.
Personally, I probably would have replaced Flint for that "boss" minigame, but it's his list.
Well with Flint from what I have heard his Diamond and Pearl fight is harder then his Platinum fight. I wouldn't know since I never got to the Elite Four in DP and only fought him in Platinum.
Saphiria TheBlueDragonKnight His fight in DP is only hard if you don't have a counter for Drifblim. You likely already have a counter for his Infernape, Rapidash, and Steelix at this point in the adventure (especially if you chose Piplup at the start), and his Lopunny isn't exactly a threat. Drifblim can be annoying if you have neither a Dark, Ghost, Ice, Electric, or Rock type Pokemon, all of which Sinnoh gives you quite a few of even in DP. I'd hardly call it a harder fight, even if his Platinum team is monotyped.
You know what's funny? I would need 2 flame shields to say that I like Bowser Jr. and Mario Party 9.
You know what's even funnier? One time, during the story mode, I finished his boss mini game with 39 points. Everyone else had 0.
HOW DID I EVEN-
Just stating though, the Clown Prix/Krome Keeper (take your pick) from Pac Man World were also dumb boss fights, but for very different reasons (one of them isn't even a boss, it's an easy race that's classified as a boss)
**sees a new QG video**
8-Bit Deathmatch can wait.
Also... to think I used to DEFEND Other M. I mean, the gameplay wasn't bad for the most part, and it was cool that they brought back Nightmare and Phantoon. But the more I thought about it, the more it sunk in that they bastardized one of my favorite video game characters and one of the most badass and awesome heroines in gaming by far, making her into a situationally-helpless anti-feminist mockery (whether purposefully or not), and the more it PISSED ME OFF. Add to that the inexcusable final boss "battle" and I can safely consign this disgrace to the Infinity Void with Gorea.
(Also, slightly off-topic, but am I the only one who prefers the wild-haired and muscular Zero Suit Samus from Fusion over the finalized version we usually see? >.> )
Yeah. Other M has some of the worst storywriting in gaming history. Not to mention they absolutely botched Samus. At least the gameplay is ok.
Just be glad you weren't defending Mega Man X7. That would be completely unforgivable.
other m is a Good GAME
but is a SHIT story
That's what we're saying. Good play and design, but character portrayals were absolutely horrific.
At least it isn't X7, tho. That one's bad across the entire board.
+XZeroStone It could be worse.
He could be trying to defend a Yu-Gi-Oh opinion against Daviantor who seems to think that being 100% objective makes him immune to criticism.
I don't play or watch Yu-Gi-Oh, so I'll have to take your word for it
Yes! I KNEW you'd do a list like this someday! Nice choices, too!
10: Yeah. At least Platinum fixed him.
9: I'm kinda disappointed by the lack of Power Rangers "Make My Monster Grow" jokes.
8: Not disappointed by the Spongebob joke.
7: Wasn't he in FFVI and did the same thing as well?
6: Not surprised this was here.
5: At least it's the first boss (except the "refight").
4: I'm noticing a trend here with normal monsters gone big.
3: Who was the "genius" who thought of that name? And World 5?! And DKC1 did the Big Enemy thing with every fight?!!
2: "Boss Fight".
1: I would've just taken a monster rush of whatever the bug things were called. An it's not considered OK on any planet. Just on the Bottle Ship.
He was an optional party member in FFVI.
So for flints team in D/P
2 fire types since fire
Drifblim since hot ari balloon
Steelix since he loves near the earths core
Lopunny since its hot for... Other reasons.
If I may add to number 1, that can potentially suffer the same fate as number 2.
I know some people like Other M, but I never get tired of hearing people bash it.
i'm really surprised that you didn't have the 3rd boss fight with orochie in okami
Let me just say that I really appreciate you adding the song names at the bottom left for each segment.
Don't worry. Even these Guys have Adoring Fanbases for them. Every Boss Type has their Fans Honestly, And I Think that's Great. ^^ (Hell, Even I Love these Types of Bosses due to what they can get away with, Weather it's their Design or how you have to fight them.)
Do top 10 worst ending in mystery games endings
My favorite boss fight is my science class.
My least favorite boss fight is my English class.
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
6:58 Still my favorite joke in this entire video.
I don't get the joke
@@voltrus3783 "Luigi wins by doing absolutely nothing." Look it up.
I remember watching a video of other M's cut-scenes and thinking about how anticlimactic it was.
I can understand the time limit on Gogo because you can drown. Also, Flint’s not the first trainer who usually uses one type and barely used another type unless there was no choice like Agatha or Lance to use other types. (Coughs) Pokemon Stadium Gym Leaders. (Coughs)
Before watching: Number 1's definitely going to be that onion.
Lemme give u a vietnam flashback...
"AROUND AND AROUND!"
@@zenrosdey5195 virgin onion Vs Chad napalm man
16:56 Who did it better HMK or Quarter Guy?
Coincidentally, Roger the Potted Ghost is the only boss in Yoshi’s Island that’s not based on an enemy. It’s based off... a flower vase. This game had a variety of enemies, yet they couldn’t come up with one more to put in World 2-8 as a boss?!
Gogo is a great boss, in my opinion.
Final boss from Overlord 2. It's an enemy rush, a slime, and it is five long an tedious stages. The eleven weak points that you have to destroy multiple times every stage even heal if you take to long.
Hey, Soulcalibur 6 is coming next year. Any thoughts?
in the GBA version of the dumb drum fight, you had to throw barrels at it when it slammed on the ground. at least you had to fight it directly then
Reactions no-one cares about:
10: I dunno if I want to say anything about Pokemon bosses, since Bosses in Pokemon are generally just several pokemon fought one after another.
9: I knew I would get angry at this list. I think the Mettal.... Met... Metal..... Erm.... the Hard Hat Daddy is brilliant! ...In concept. The boss itself kinda sucks, but the idea behind it is good! ...In my opinion, that is. But nobody cares about my opinion.
8: Ok, That IS pretty dumb.
7: That would actually be pretty clever if there wasn't a harsh time limit.
6: Final bosses that don't attack you are just lame. Unless it's Gradius. Gradius gets away with it. Somehow.
5: How did I not guess this was going to be on here? I need to play more Zelda.
4: No comment. Nothing to add to this one.
3: Ditto.
2: FISHING: THE BOSS BATTLE! ....That was a really bad joke. I'm sorry. I just didn't want to say ditto again.
1: You know, I actually like Other M. A lot. Yeah it's very flawed, and its story sucked, and its controls could have been better, but beneath all that was a pretty good game. Admittedly, that's mostly because it's my FIRST Metroid game. But I still think it gets too much hate.
BUT MB SUCKED. EVERYTHING ABOUT THAT BOSS SUCKED. I hate it. I HATE IT! I died SO many times to the Queen, got to MB, and died a lot in that fight. And I died some more. And I started getting really angry because I didn't want to take a break and have to fight the Queen Metroid again. And then.... AND THEN.... I looked at her. I LOOKED AT THE FINAL BOSS, BY ACCIDENT, AND WON. What. WHAT?! THAT was the final boss? I didn't even see that coming. That shouldn't have been the final boss! That had no build up! There was nothing indicating that I was about to fight the final boss AND THEN I WIN BY LOOKING AT HER. You don't even get to fight her. She gets killed by some jerks. You don't even get to fight the final boss. ARGHERERSATERSMTHSS!
Other M was ok but the story was a trainwreck.
Other M was my first game too
Ironically the MB fight was kind of a relief of the hell I went through with Queen Metroid...
Funny how I somehow knew Metroid: Other M would be next on this list right before you said it
3:53 QuarterGuy It was due to the success of the Giant Mets that Dr. Wily decided to create this bad boy to guard the first section of Wily Castle 4 in case Cossack stopped fighting when his daughter Kalinka was rescued and Mega Man set his sights on the VA’s good Skull Doctor friend.
12:34-14:10 Awww, come on Quart! It’s kinda cool. Gamers get to have some good fighting, and the Kremling Krew has a follower. Still, K. Rool’s in Smash Bros. Ultimate.
I think the Chu Chu as a first boss isn’t as dumb as it first seems.
Think about it: Link has been shrunk down, meaning things larger than him are even more threatening than if he were larger. The Chu Chu looks goofy and silly, but think of how it looks to Link from his new perspective. He sees a giant imposing creature, and if he sees the face, it isn’t just dopey-looking; it’s uncaring.
For Link, he realizes something important: EVERYTHING IS DANGEROUS WHEN YOU ARE SMALL.
If it was a later boss, it would fall flat. If it was something that looked scary, it wouldn’t have given the same impression because of course Link is dealing with something dangerous. That was why it had to be something that looked as nonthreatening as possible, to show off that danger.
I hope I have changed some minds about that boss. And if you disagree, I will gladly hear your reasonings!
The Game boy port for donkey Kong country 1 does have an interesting change up for Dumb Drum. After you defeat the enemies it spawns and tries to stomp you... A TNT barrel shows up and you have to chuck it at him to do damage
Aw yeah, Mega Man hype!
Minus Bros. Favorite RM? Game? Maverick?
My favourite Robot Master is Tengu Man.
My favourite game is Mega Man 8
And my favourite Maverick (between X1-4) is Spark Mandrill.
My favorite RM has to be Gravity Man, my favorite MM game has to be X5 (my favorite classic series game is 7), and my favorite maverick is Sting Chameleon.
RM: If fanmade ones count, then Rainbow Man from Unlimited. But from the official, Dynamo Man from &Bass.
Game: Classic- 8
X- Either X7 or X4.
Zero- 3
Legends- haven’t played.
Starforce- 2
BattleNetwork- Transmission or BN6.
Advent > ZX.
Maverick: Flame Hyenard.
Yeah, I like X7. It may be hated by most people, but, hey, that’s your opinion.
Uh...HOW do you like Hyenard?
"Rocket Surgery"
What?
f1s53r Rocket Science/Brain Surgery.
I bet Dr N.Gin invented the term ''Rocket Surgery''
Brain Science
Fun fact: metonger z is actually based on a classic mecha series called mazinger z
Commonly credited as one of the first "super" robots
Ah, that mecha anime with that theme song written by guys who later made a song for a Transformers Japanese dub.
Didn't the Giant Metall boss return in Megaman ZX?
yes as a very fun mini boss(until you get model P).
Big vs Chaos 6 genuinely made me chuckle
You know QG with all the praise you give bosses, I have heard you give any love to the megaman zero bosses, other than omega. You gotta correct that man!
Say what you will about the Sonic Adventure games, but SA2 will always hold a special place in my heart for being my all-time favorite Sonic game in the series. ;)
Rocket surgery? What?
Did you just pull the "Inhale Boi" meme?
10. BURRRRRN!!!!!
9. Why is this a thing?
8. Memes.
7. LUIGI WINS BY DOING NOTHING.
6. Run away, don't wait!
5. TIMBER!!!!!!!!!!!
4. It's also SOOOOOO SLOOOOOW!!!!
3. A giant barrel.... Really?
2. That was even stupid, even I can't forget him...
1. HOW IS THAT EVEN FUN?! IT'S ANNOYING! Samus returns did that much better...
There’s Another big slime boss, King Slime from Terraria, but King Slime has a bit more than just jump around, if you get too far away it teleports to you and a bunch of normal slimes follow him. The way to spawn him is to hard for like, one of the easiest bosses in the game, though it drops my favorite mount so I guess that’s fair
10. It is sad they had a Fire Elite in such a cold region, but IIRC, at least his other Pokemon had some form of Fire attacks. That's... something. Also, the Ice and Electric Gym Leaders had Pokemon outside those types in Diamond and Pearl (Candice's Medicham and Volkner's Ambipom and Octillery), but the same elemental logic applies.
9. I actually like Mega Man 4, but I can admit this was a dumb boss.
8. Maybe if those flames were faster or if Roger didn't push you immediately after spewing them, he could've been some kind of threat.
7.
6. Unlike 7, I won't say anything not because it's funny but because I have nothing to say. Haven't played Crash Bandicoot since I was... seven, maybe?
5. Not sure if this boss is really that lame, considering you have to fight it in a different way than you're used to fighting it.
4. Salvo will see you in court, Max.
3. Enemy Rush / 10. Maybe it could've been intimidating if they used Krushas (or whatever the buff mohawk Kremlings were called).
2. At least Amy's one boss was an actual boss fight.
1. I'll have to replay Other M at some point to re-evalute if it was as bad as I remember. When the game was first released, I actually disliked the Sensimove gimmick, the QTEs, and the controls in general (in addition to the sketchy story), giving me a much lower opinion of the game than everyone else seemed to have (many I knew would say "at least the gameplay is good", and I would respond "Not really"), but I should play it again to give it a fair shot. But even if my opinion does rise, this moment still seems worthy of ire.
They never fixed Flint but PLA tried to justify the Lopunny by giving one to his ancestor, thus making it a family tradition.
Fun Fact: Other M is no longer a part of the Metroid canon according to Nintendo.
[citation needed]
Happy thanksgiving week QG
BOI
16:57
On what planet could this possibly be considered okay?!
You developed games? Cool! What exactly are they, I would love to check out your work.
Another comment said he worked at WayForward Technologies in the past. If you've played a licensed game on a Game Boy Advance or DS based on a cartoon series odds are good WayForward worked on it. They've also done the Shantae series and DuckTales: Remastered.
17:21 Oh hey James Rolfe! Didn’t see ya there!
Crazy how it says Go in the description and there was an ad for Pokémon Go before the video started.
The Mario Party joke during the Gogo segment was perfect
Another of my least favorite boss ideas is a boss fight that is invincible for large periods of time. It can work in the context of someone like Dimentio to emphasize how they've attained godlike status temporarily. But what I'm talking about are those BS bosses that employ cheap tactics to make the battle longer and more aggrivating. Like, say, a frog living in an ocean of lava. The gameplay of Kirby can be often pretty well paced, particularly in their boss fights. So isn't it cool how Pyribbit from Triple Deluxe can just completely break the pacing by being completely untouchable in the background? There are bosses that you need to dodge before gaining the opportunity to safely damage them, but I'm not thrilled to spend minutes at a time waiting for such opportunity. At least there's no time limit... Unlike his Super Fighters version!
The Cave of Wonders (Tiger Head) from Kingdom Hearts, Jasper Twat Junior from No More heroes, and Titan Joker from Batman: Arkham Asylum.
Holy Jenova, no Jasper Bastard Jr?!? Damn, QG, did you give it some Sympathy this time?
Daemon Feldman I think it's because it wasn't a terrible idea for a boss as much as a horribly made and executed battle.
Hey QG? Can #1 even be considered the final boss of the game? Because there is another boss you fight after this one that the game poses as the true final boss of the game.
+Jack The Lightning Ripper Phantoon feels more like a post-game boss who has no bearing on the story.
Ah.
That you can't even fight if you go on Hard Mode. And lets be honest, why would you play Hard Mode in Other M? I mean, sure, there are those who like it, but there's literally no point to it.
Considering you can't even actually get any expansions on Hard Mode... that's really all you need.
The Giant Goomba from New Super Mario Bros DS was too easy
What about the maverick that's just an onion?
Note to self, swing by the children’s hospital when I get the chance to see what I can do to help
Well even though that one boss from Other M is terrible. I still like Other M!
GalaxiaKnightX
Well that's your opinion, and you are free to voice an opinion that may be unpopular. I can't fault you for your personal opinion about something even if I disagree.
Other M has some solid gameplay. Problems do outweigh the good though, such as the MB fight and horrendous writing/voicing.
I can understand why someone might like it. Hell, I used to defend it because the gameplay was pretty good...
...Not anymore.
That last "fight" with MB at the end of Other M is as much a boss fight as the final boss fight of Other M as the cutscene battle with human Sephiroth where Cloud just does the Omnislash is the final battle of FF7. The M.B. thing was an active cutscene...NOT a Boss Fight. If you want to call anything a final boss fight of Other M, it's either the Queen Metroid or Phantoon...
You had to include audio from spongebob.
Plus i like how you showed luigi's name for how to defeat the boss of the #7 spot
1:23
*_King Kut-Out_*
Krazy Kardboard Konstruction
15:18
Oh No
I think the flesh of Darkest Dungeon is one of the dumbest and easiest boss of the game
Horacio pereira fretta if this was on the list this whole Countdown wouldn't be so generic and safe and actuallly different *thumbs up*
One other idea of a dumb boss is to make you do something that you weren't expected to do throughout the game. For example, stealth segments in an action game suck. But the opposite is also true. In the case of Deus Ex Human Revolution, prior to the director's cut, the problem was that the bosses were made by designers who didn't know Human Revolution was mostly a stealth game. Hence why you fight them like you would in a Rainbow Six game. In that you need to shoot, take cover, shoot, take cover, repeat. But even if you do take cover, the first boss especially will overwhelm you with his own onslaught. Again, the problem was fixed in the Director's Cut which gives you the option to hide and work your way around to the backrooms and get some auto turrets which further highlights how vanilla HR didn't quite take stealth builds into account.
Whaddya think of King Slime from Terraria?
looks like Capcom was actually in charge of bringing the presents huh buddy!
Sees a interesting top 10 laughs ass off at list and agrees with it XD!! \$○$/
Sycoh can wait
Black Mage Gamer did this idea YEARS and he and QG did a colab on Best Mario Kart tracks. #CoincidenceIthinkNOT!
The problem isn't what are you fighting or the Boss's Sprite
It's how the boss fight works
Great choice of music for the opening part! The derpy boss theme of Yoshi's New Island perfectly matches it.
10. I completely agree, this was a stupid choice on their part.
9. Yeah.
8. Much easier than I remember
7. I heard it's a stupid boss
6. Dumb. BTW for the first time, all of these are from games I've played! ...so far.
5. So far I agree with all of these
4. Well, looks like we have our first boss on here that isn't from a game I've played.
3. I don't know how, but for some reason I knew you were building up to him when I saw the icon. But this boss can actually mess you up with the worker guys if you have Diddy Kong, since I can't remember if there's any way to beat them with Diddy
2. One of the easiest bosses EVER
1. I HATE THIS BOSS!!!!!
meta527II The Klumps can be beaten with a roll.
My mistake, sorry
If you were to ask me what I think is a stupid boss idea, it's Chucklissa from Superstar Saga.
Is it because Jojora offers you a pointless choice just to mock you?
Vittorio Pugliese actually it’s because it’s a creepy stalker that attacks with poisonous kisses.
I agree with Number 1. Great build-up, disappointing Boss. Thankfully, spoilers, Phantoon returned as a secret boss, and a great one at that. Much better tha his fight in Super Metroid.
To be honest I’m surprised you didn’t include the boss from sonic The dark brotherhood I’d argue that you’d have to do even less in order to win that fight, that’s one of the easiest supersonic battles ever