Hello , zack. When you said to pull towards the hip at an 60 angle, doesnt it make the lift break into two parts? Cuz we have been taught to always pull straight up, by pulling it to the hip, you need to throw your hip at the bar, and give the bar upward momentum from the hip
dont know if your still out there Zack, as these video's are years old. However, for an old guy new to the sport, living in a remote location, with no coach or gym, your videos's ( and others ) have helped me so much. so thank you brother for putting them all to air.,,,,.Maaka ,Mekong River Region
I suffer with this as well. I tried to rationalize it every way I could, saying to myself that there were more important things in life. But I think the only cure is to actually snatch 100kg...
can you do a technique breakdown of clarence?? perhaps a breakdown of different technique styles between you and him, but still highlight the main principles that are present in both lifts? i’m a sprint canoeist, and there a huge differences in technique styles amongst countries. itd be interesting to hear about that for weightlifting.
You had me at "pain in the pubic bone from contact in the snatch". I feel like it's something I've been struggling with since basically high school. Very useful video, thank you.
Yes Awesome Clean an Jerk as well video please. I'm sure I speak for most of us on this channel when I say I've hurt my back, hip, and wrist because of lack of exposure to your tips and tricks. Great video.
I am not american so I guess this question makes sense... Why most american lifters have a so high hip setup / low chest on the snatch and the clean? Is this something preached by USA coaches? Because it seems really different to the low hip set up most Eastern Europe and specially Chinese lifters have (and also blatantly open chest) Amazing channel Zack. Keep up the nice stuff. Greetings from Spain
I came here prepared to hear some inaccuracies too but this guy actually nails the technique of full bar contact which I like and also try to use, although I am not so good at snatch. Have in mind to become better at something you must train exactly that, there is no shortcuts, other excersises no matter how close they might seem they won't do the trick. So if you want to brush the bar in the snatch, start your snatches and try in each effort no matter the load. Be consistent.
Since I’ve started watching your channel I’ve been really interested in learning how to perform these lifts but I didn’t know where to start. This video has made me feel confident enough in my understanding of the movement that I’m going to try this tonight and I’m really excited. Thank you
Hey man I love the videos you make, seeing other americans analyze weightlifting like the rest of the world makes my heart sing. My dad lifted for a german club back in the day and I grew up lifting, I had my pelvic bone busted so many times I just got over it, my dad also had us stick a knew pad in our shorts to cushion the bar. That helped but as one lifts and matures the pelvic bash will smooth out. If you are not lifting starting at age 5 then god help you because hitting it as an adult is way more painful than when you are a kid. Straight arms or risk a slow pull period the germans would not be cool with the bend arms method
I'm a newb at the snatch, and these videos are a tremendous accelerator. Thanks much for your time and insights. Funny thing is that the hardest part for me is holding the bar over my head after pulling. I feel so weak and awkward in that position, even with just the bar. It's humbling.
@@zacktelander Was gonna say that now that you have chopped garlic you're hanging up branch flower pots? aha You should do a MTV cribs showing us all of Beryl's home improvements maybe?
What Zack didn’t explicitly say is he has a hip lowered dynamic start. It’s similar to that or the Iranian lifters and different from other dynamic starts like that of Mattie Rodgers (more of a kinetic/rolling start). Also on the fact of the pubic bone, engaging your lats will help (like he said) but so will the direction of your torso. Look at any power position of a good lifter and their chest is vertical, the bar will go in the direction of your chest. The more vertical you can get it the better your bar path will be. Love the video and great explanations Zack!
It’s these nuggets of genius advice, these cuing suggestions that are applicable to every body type, every level of lifter, that separate you. Not that your “bro humor” isn’t scintillating; but you do your dear proud when you deliver differential technical advice. THANK YOU. Your suggestions about setting feet is both biomechanically correct, and a super pre-lift routine to get one’s head ready. The issue of individual biomechanical differences seems to be glossed over in most weightlifting instruction - I’m not built like Torokhity or a Chinese lifter, so neither style can just be copied. Dave Spitz did a piece open grip width determination for C&J recently, referencing how one’s arms hang with hands supinate at sides as the benchmark - can you provide your thoughts?
i used to sit vertically because of my naturally very mobile ankles and dorsiflexion. my butt could be so close to the ground and my thigh would be parallel to the ground. limiting the forward travel of my knees has definitely made me think of the snatch in new ways
Yep yep I had to change my grip recently because I couldn't handle the pain. I didn't have this problem before except in the beginning but for some reason it became very painful in the last couple of months.
You help me alot with these lifts. Can you please go over clean and jerk also? Hip vs mid or high thigh contact when transitioning? Should i copy Lu xiaojun's clean?
Might as well do one for clean and jerk. I enjoyed this, I just got home from my clean session, and this video will help me tomorrow for my snatch. Even though you kinda sound like you can't be bothered with writing a good script, I enjoyed this somewhat personal attack towards my snatch form. Keep it up :)
hey Zack you you talk more on the topic "great despite of it and not because of it" meaning how elite lifters do things that are not considered textbook form but are still breaking records on stage like early pull on toes before full extension, leaning back too much before pulling under, early arm bend in the clean
I learned clean a bit (a few weeks) from internet and then got a coach after that. He basically yelled at me “finish the pull!” because I was trying to get under the bar as soon as the hip contact happened and wasn’t pulling all the way through. I think this continuous pulling motion is very easy to miss just by watching video yourself. You need someone with a trained eye to spot that
Thanks! I love your vids. You have so many great vids it can be difficult to sort through them for content. Any chance you can make a playlist with your WL instructional videos so we can sort them out from your other videos? I'm transitioning from Powerlifting to Weightlifting and would love to see all your technical breakdown and technique tips.
wiggle the toes is good - im taller and thinner and usually stand on my toes from years of baseball etc... but i have to wiggle to get my toes set right too its def different than what id normally do
Thanks for the video! Great editing and great info. I can't believe this is the first video of yours I've ever seen. Let's just say I've started to work my way back through your videos. Great content dude. Thanks for your time and all of the experience that you share. Jerk for the next video?
Hey Zack, Kelly Starrett always mentions that you don't want to break the line of your spine with your head - ie you should keep your head in line with your back (looking down more) so you avoid this weird strain on your spine. Have you ever tried pulling like this? I see people doing deadlifts and Olympic lifts with their head/eyes up a lot.. I have found it feels a lot nicer for me to deadlift with my head in neutral but I'm not an Olympic lifter so never tried it on these lifts.
With the snatch and the clean, you have to pull with eyes and head up. Keeps the chest open, and allows you to turn over the bar better in the third phase
Zack, could you comment on how much the traps are contracting as you’re pulling your arms thru that 45 or 60 degree angle? The way you explained it made me think I would see your shoulders raise more towards the back of your neck as you’re activating your upper body, but it didn’t look like it in the video. What muscles are “pulling” the bar back towards your hips?
Snatch grip panda pulls really help with getting the feel of controlled vertical bar. You just have to make sure that your arms are kind of pulling the bar to your chest at the extension.
Loved the snatch warmup video, have found warming up my ankles and stretching to increase dorsiflexion makes hitting the bottom position easier. Also the progression of arm initiated tall snatches etc have helped correct my 2nd pull issues. Can you do similar one for the CJ?
Hey Zack! Amazing video as always. The ''cut'' you were talking about for the prevention of smacking our pubic bone; won't it lead to some arm bend? Should i just focus controlling the bar with locked arms ? Or should i ''unlock'' my arms above the knee so i can have full control of the bar? Thanks in advance!
hey zack thanks for the great info - I have super long limbs and have a tough time sweeping the bar up into my hips to contact high enough without rowing the bar... are there exercises i can do to improve this part of the pull/my upper back control?
Official snatch, pubic bone, clean and jerk ,12 year old humor innuendo thread here:
Haha sex right fellas
I prefer the good ol jerk and then clean, but whatever floats your boat, Zack.
@@Altigue After the jerk is before the jerk. So you can clean whenever.
Just get thicc. Duh
Hello , zack. When you said to pull towards the hip at an 60 angle, doesnt it make the lift break into two parts? Cuz we have been taught to always pull straight up, by pulling it to the hip, you need to throw your hip at the bar, and give the bar upward momentum from the hip
dont know if your still out there Zack, as these video's are years old. However, for an old guy new to the sport, living in a remote location, with no coach or gym, your videos's ( and others ) have helped me so much. so thank you brother for putting them all to air.,,,,.Maaka ,Mekong River Region
I find value in this
as do I
This is an undercover full in depth snatch guide , great video, also do the clean and jerk one please, would really love to see that.
What about the emotional pain of not being able to snatch 100kg
I suffer with this as well. I tried to rationalize it every way I could, saying to myself that there were more important things in life. But I think the only cure is to actually snatch 100kg...
Glad there are others who suffer this as well. Just want to know that I'm not alone.
just snatch 100 ez
That won't be too hard considering I don't actually do olymptic weightlifting
Same. But we're still watching this for some reason
ah this is where my people at...
Yeah, the only cleans I do are with heavy dumbbells and mainly use it to setup my presses/push-presses.
Dr. Zack, always welcome.
Thank you for allowing me to pursue my passion now without pain
thank you coach ZT. did find value.
can you do a technique breakdown of clarence?? perhaps a breakdown of different technique styles between you and him, but still highlight the main principles that are present in both lifts?
i’m a sprint canoeist, and there a huge differences in technique styles amongst countries. itd be interesting to hear about that for weightlifting.
"...right angle of dog-shit" made me laugh out loud! Great video, keep 'em coming!
this video contains eternal glory. definitely one I need to rewatch from time to time
Without doubt the best weightlifting content out there!
You had me at "pain in the pubic bone from contact in the snatch". I feel like it's something I've been struggling with since basically high school. Very useful video, thank you.
Dammit zack you’re supposed to put these out BEFORE I injure myself snatching...
That “cut into you “ queue = mind blown. That has drastically helped my technique already. Hope you do a CJ version of this video!
It must be so good using yourself as an example.
Thanks Zack now I can save the hip thrusts for the bedroom
1:08 from that angle it looks like he's about to preform a hell of a behind the back DL
Definitely would love to see the C&J video to go with this!!!
Yes
Awesome
Clean an Jerk as well video please. I'm sure I speak for most of us on this channel when I say I've hurt my back, hip, and wrist because of lack of exposure to your tips and tricks. Great video.
Please do this for both the clean and the jerk. This was incredibly helpful in finding where I can improve. Thank you Zack for the awesome content!
I'd definitely love to see one of these for the clean
Wow, well done. Best I’ve heard the process explained yet. Thank you. Well said. Relaxed and informative. Very real. Appreciate it.
Excellent explanation thank you Zack! Really great to see dissection of video. 👍😉
Missed your coaching videos, thanks for the tips🤩
Thank you for the clarity of form in the snatch. I'm still learning, and I found your explanations fascinating.
i was training this for 2 months and no one explained nothing thank you very much for this video.
Спасибо, и удачи Вам, Зак!
Thanks so much this was so helpful. Hopefully it helps me in my journey. Keep it up, Telly!
Hi Zack! Great video, once again! I agree 100% on your opinion how to perform snatch! Keep up the good work!
I am not american so I guess this question makes sense... Why most american lifters have a so high hip setup / low chest on the snatch and the clean? Is this something preached by USA coaches? Because it seems really different to the low hip set up most Eastern Europe and specially Chinese lifters have (and also blatantly open chest)
Amazing channel Zack. Keep up the nice stuff. Greetings from Spain
Thank you for all informations.
I came here prepared to hear some inaccuracies too but this guy actually nails the technique of full bar contact which I like and also try to use, although I am not so good at snatch. Have in mind to become better at something you must train exactly that, there is no shortcuts, other excersises no matter how close they might seem they won't do the trick. So if you want to brush the bar in the snatch, start your snatches and try in each effort no matter the load. Be consistent.
Zack always makes a snatch feel better
Quality coaching. Per usual
I'm not into weightlifting at all, but I find your videos fascinating.
Since I’ve started watching your channel I’ve been really interested in learning how to perform these lifts but I didn’t know where to start. This video has made me feel confident enough in my understanding of the movement that I’m going to try this tonight and I’m really excited. Thank you
Hey man I love the videos you make, seeing other americans analyze weightlifting like the rest of the world makes my heart sing. My dad lifted for a german club back in the day and I grew up lifting, I had my pelvic bone busted so many times I just got over it, my dad also had us stick a knew pad in our shorts to cushion the bar. That helped but as one lifts and matures the pelvic bash will smooth out. If you are not lifting starting at age 5 then god help you because hitting it as an adult is way more painful than when you are a kid. Straight arms or risk a slow pull period the germans would not be cool with the bend arms method
I was wondering why arching was putting a lot more load onto my lumbar rather than hips. Thank you tall wizard.
Zack you just probably saved thousands of pubic bones! forever thankful
I'm a newb at the snatch, and these videos are a tremendous accelerator. Thanks much for your time and insights. Funny thing is that the hardest part for me is holding the bar over my head after pulling. I feel so weak and awkward in that position, even with just the bar. It's humbling.
That ropey branch flower pot thing is like the least Zack thing I've seen on the channel.
Blink twice if you're being held hostage or something
Eugene Poon Beryl fancy’s herself an “interior designer”
@@zacktelander Was gonna say that now that you have chopped garlic you're hanging up branch flower pots? aha
You should do a MTV cribs showing us all of Beryl's home improvements maybe?
As someone who has only been weightlifting for a relatively short amount of time, you are immensely speeding up my progress
Really good stuff! Thanks mate
one of my favorite how to snatch videos even though it might have not been intended for that Zack. thx dude
What Zack didn’t explicitly say is he has a hip lowered dynamic start. It’s similar to that or the Iranian lifters and different from other dynamic starts like that of Mattie Rodgers (more of a kinetic/rolling start). Also on the fact of the pubic bone, engaging your lats will help (like he said) but so will the direction of your torso. Look at any power position of a good lifter and their chest is vertical, the bar will go in the direction of your chest. The more vertical you can get it the better your bar path will be. Love the video and great explanations Zack!
I really appreciate the effort you put in your videos to produce such a valuable content
amazing video man, all your stuff is great and informative.
yes please to the clean and jerk, from a fellow giraffe. sippy sip, love those highly technical coaching terms :)
Started watching you from Juji and Tom and I love your videos!
It’s these nuggets of genius advice, these cuing suggestions that are applicable to every body type, every level of lifter, that separate you. Not that your “bro humor” isn’t scintillating; but you do your dear proud when you deliver differential technical advice. THANK YOU. Your suggestions about setting feet is both biomechanically correct, and a super pre-lift routine to get one’s head ready. The issue of individual biomechanical differences seems to be glossed over in most weightlifting instruction - I’m not built like Torokhity or a Chinese lifter, so neither style can just be copied. Dave Spitz did a piece open grip width determination for C&J recently, referencing how one’s arms hang with hands supinate at sides as the benchmark - can you provide your thoughts?
Started off so serious and then he called our snatched 'dog shit' and called us all lazy and stupid :D So true tho :D
i used to sit vertically because of my naturally very mobile ankles and dorsiflexion. my butt could be so close to the ground and my thigh would be parallel to the ground. limiting the forward travel of my knees has definitely made me think of the snatch in new ways
Very good explanation zack
Yep yep I had to change my grip recently because I couldn't handle the pain. I didn't have this problem before except in the beginning but for some reason it became very painful in the last couple of months.
This was really helpful man, do one for the clean and jerk too pls
You help me alot with these lifts. Can you please go over clean and jerk also? Hip vs mid or high thigh contact when transitioning? Should i copy Lu xiaojun's clean?
Might as well do one for clean and jerk. I enjoyed this, I just got home from my clean session, and this video will help me tomorrow for my snatch. Even though you kinda sound like you can't be bothered with writing a good script, I enjoyed this somewhat personal attack towards my snatch form. Keep it up :)
hey Zack you you talk more on the topic "great despite of it and not because of it" meaning how elite lifters do things that are not considered textbook form but are still breaking records on stage like early pull on toes before full extension, leaning back too much before pulling under, early arm bend in the clean
Cheers Zac, will give engaging the upper body a go. Interesting tip, but makes sense.
Awesome! Please do a C&J video too.
I learned clean a bit (a few weeks) from internet and then got a coach after that. He basically yelled at me “finish the pull!” because I was trying to get under the bar as soon as the hip contact happened and wasn’t pulling all the way through. I think this continuous pulling motion is very easy to miss just by watching video yourself. You need someone with a trained eye to spot that
Very helpful.
Thanks! I love your vids. You have so many great vids it can be difficult to sort through them for content. Any chance you can make a playlist with your WL instructional videos so we can sort them out from your other videos? I'm transitioning from Powerlifting to Weightlifting and would love to see all your technical breakdown and technique tips.
wiggle the toes is good - im taller and thinner and usually stand on my toes from years of baseball etc... but i have to wiggle to get my toes set right too its def different than what id normally do
Thanks for the video! Great editing and great info. I can't believe this is the first video of yours I've ever seen. Let's just say I've started to work my way back through your videos. Great content dude. Thanks for your time and all of the experience that you share. Jerk for the next video?
I will forever more refer to breathing and bracing as 'take a big sippy sip' 😂
Did anyone else like it when Zack flashed us his nice white bowl of oatmeal belly?
mine has a little more brown sugar on it...
good video, especially with sound-effects - BOOM !!!
More of this please!!
Loved it, thanks!
Hey Zack, Kelly Starrett always mentions that you don't want to break the line of your spine with your head - ie you should keep your head in line with your back (looking down more) so you avoid this weird strain on your spine. Have you ever tried pulling like this? I see people doing deadlifts and Olympic lifts with their head/eyes up a lot.. I have found it feels a lot nicer for me to deadlift with my head in neutral but I'm not an Olympic lifter so never tried it on these lifts.
With the snatch and the clean, you have to pull with eyes and head up. Keeps the chest open, and allows you to turn over the bar better in the third phase
Zack, could you comment on how much the traps are contracting as you’re pulling your arms thru that 45 or 60 degree angle? The way you explained it made me think I would see your shoulders raise more towards the back of your neck as you’re activating your upper body, but it didn’t look like it in the video. What muscles are “pulling” the bar back towards your hips?
Snatch grip panda pulls really help with getting the feel of controlled vertical bar. You just have to make sure that your arms are kind of pulling the bar to your chest at the extension.
Loved the snatch warmup video, have found warming up my ankles and stretching to increase dorsiflexion makes hitting the bottom position easier. Also the progression of arm initiated tall snatches etc have helped correct my 2nd pull issues.
Can you do similar one for the CJ?
Anyone else vibin hella tough
thankyou for this video.
Extremely valuable
Zack, my knees no longer exist because I squat jerk too much. Please do a video on clean and jerk so I can start split jerking.
That was an awesome video.
Hey Zack! Amazing video as always. The ''cut'' you were talking about for the prevention of smacking our pubic bone; won't it lead to some arm bend? Should i just focus controlling the bar with locked arms ? Or should i ''unlock'' my arms above the knee so i can have full control of the bar? Thanks in advance!
6:59 I always make contact 20 cm below my hips...dammit!!
"Right angle of dogshit"...I feel attacked.
My arms are too long and/or my torso is too short. Even in the snatch my contact point is on the thighs, albeit very high :(
Widen the grip if at all possible and make sure you have good torso posture otherwise I don't know
@@durrantmiller8810 Thanks :) but I am already collar to collar. Oh how I wish I could do hip cleans. But man this sport is fun.
Gotta say that I tested today and did a 5Kg PR on both lifts
hey zack thanks for the great info - I have super long limbs and have a tough time sweeping the bar up into my hips to contact high enough without rowing the bar... are there exercises i can do to improve this part of the pull/my upper back control?
Zack, in your opinion, is it too late for a 26 guy approaching powerlifting to turn to weightlifting?
Its all in the hips..its all in the hips
4yrs old, but great video
But I keep on hurting my feelings. What's the fix doe?
How do you keep your back flat when you have an arched back? I don't have the idea that I ever have a flat back
how dare u pull senpai into this!
One other thing the germans teach is to bang the bar so hard it vibrates
Awesome video, yes, PLEASE do this for clean and jerk!!!!!!
Is point of contact the hipbone? Or can be upper thigh for narrower grip
I dislocated my shoulder from snatching, should or/can I continue snatching after recovery?
I notice if I set up with toes pointing closer to parallel, I get more power on the way up. Does this make sense?
Yes! Clean please!!!
Zack did you hurt your back spinal?