Amazing niche you have created, keep at it you are destined for notoriety. Your subject matter is endless. P.S. your diction, enunciation and presentation are top shelf.
Thank you...I unintentionally ended up in this space (it's a story) and now that I'm here I continually remind myself of how much I've healed because of other creators. I hope I can be that voice of validation for someone who needs it.
It’s the same principle of treasure digging: Including a promise that you will find the treasure, so you’re always watching for it. When it doesn’t come to pass, you question whether you performed with exactness and question YOURSELF instead of the church. The exact same reasons Joseph gave when he couldn’t find treasure for people. He’d blame the crew and the land owners.
My two sisters-in-law got their patriarchal blessings 2 years apart, but from the same exact patriarch. When they shared theirs together, they realized both their blessings were 100% identical, word for word. They both left the church pretty quickly after that. My patriarchal blessing told me that I would be a prominent figure in the government and make important decisions that would be helpful for the country, as well as the church. I shared my blessing with a couple close friends(I was at college), and one friend told me I should start taking political science classes. Nope. I have always been a severe introvert, and HATE public speaking. I hate meeting new people, and I hate politics in general. After my blessing, I knew either God didn't know me very well, or the patriarch was full of BS.
One of worst mistakes I made when I was young was trying to follow my patriarcal blessing a road map it often led me to a dead ends. I remember talking to the patriarch of the church around 1981, when I was back from my mission, his opinion was that a patriarchal blessing was more like a prayer of hopful possibles but did not consider it a type of fortune telling.
My Patriarchal Blessing says Reply hazy; try again. We lived in the mountains and our patriarch was in the valley. On our way down the hill to get my blessing a motorcycle in front of us went over a cliff. We stopped, but he had gone too far down the cliff for us to help so we proceeded down and called 911 at the bottom (this was in the 70s so no cell phones). Never found out what happened. I should have taken it as a sign. I haven't read it in centuries. I should dig it up to see how it all is turning out now that I'm an old man. Probably most of it will be in the next life. Edit: I found it. It sure talks a lot about Satan wanting my soul. I guess it came true. I align much more with The Church of Satan or Satan's Temple than stniaS yad-rettaL fo tsirhC suseJ fo hcruhC ehT (Satan likes it backwards - victory x2) 🤘
My wife was one of the very few that had two patriarchal blessings from two different patriarchs, because the first patriarch failed to send his to church headquarters. I was present at both blessings, and each patriarch assigned my wife to a different tribe. When I later asked another patriarch about this discrepancy, he replied, "So, what?" He had no answer. So yeah: they're all made up, and the points don't matter.
TWO tribes? I dare say that if we polled everyone who has gotten a blessing we would have many more stories that are out of the norm. It's why the church doesn't want us sharing our blessings.
I went with my girlfriend. We were both divorced at the time and she got her patriarchal blessing when she was about 40, The patriarch at one point said you have been blessed with a wonderful body. Both of us opened our eyes and looked at each other in astonishment as we both thought. Did he really say that? Sure enough, when she got her printed copy that little sentence was gone.
My patriarchal blessing has a lot of pretty generic phrases and instructions. One that was particularly not helpful was the promise of being a peacemaker in my family. As a teenager with a narcissistic step parent, that promise held me back from learning to set healthy boundaries. I remember growing up occasionally hearing about a patriarchal blessing or baby blessing that promises someone will live to see the second coming. As a TBM, I was never sure how much to trust those. About 10 years ago, I was present for a baby blessing which included the promise of living on earth until the second coming.
We were present for one of our son’s blessings, and the patriarch stated he was to marry a woman from the tribe of Dan…..Dan. Well that was heartbreaking to see him over the years stress over finding a girl who was from the tribe of Dan. I tried to explain to him that it wasn’t etched in stone and he will know when he falls in love with a girl and wants to marry her….not needing to check a box on lineage. My children are pretty literal in their interpretation of things and it never helped when it came to the church…..you can question deity but never question “prophetic” statements made by men. 🙄
@@MrRaythMandblues it was very awkward for him…..for a time he chose to not pursue serious relationships with some girls simply because they weren’t from the tribe dictated in his blessing….we hoped he wasn’t pitching that question to them during a date. Finally he disregarded the blessings admonition and married an awesome girl. So you can guess how excited he was when I told him we were leaving the church 🤷♂️
I knew a patriarch that took over a year to finish up editing blessings he had given. Amazing isn’t it? To believe that one church has the authority to speak for God. How presumptuous. How evil it is to make a person think he’s in the path that leads to heaven when there’s overwhelming evidence to the contrary. If only Mormon members would do the research necessary to find the truth of it all. The facts are out there…they just need a reason to pursue it all.
I had “you will be a leader of women” which feels like a safe thing to say in all girl’s blessings because they can only ever be in callings with women, so eventually they will have something like that. Not like they could say you will be a leader of men or an apostle or anything like that.
I was told I would work with young people and a few years later was first councillor for MIA. But everything else didn't happen like marriage and children. Like you I liked the 10% increase when I stopped paying tithing. Keep up the brilliant work 🙏
This makes me think of the journal entries people wrote about Joseph Smith Sr. After JS Jr called him as the first Church Patriarch, JS Sr would charged a fee for giving these blessings and probably spent most of the money on booze as he was a well known town drunk.
Lucy would give readings to the locals to bring in extra household money. The entire family was deep into witchcraft, as taught to them by Lumen Walters from England.
My patriarchal blessing sounds so much like my own. It always struck me as being Mormon fortune telling. BTW I burned my patriarchal blessing, along with my temple robes and garments, when I escaped from LDS Inc.
@@mofoquette Pretty much was! I got everything I wanted..children..grandchildren..got to bake and cook..keep a home and sew..my special love. I helped my husband build homes too. But I got some Hard things too.. Everything I wanted but a husband who was never pleased enough to give one thank you. He was an asshole but God Saved me from him after 32 years and then I was homeless..but God took care of me.
My mom said mine was fake because I didn't come from the same tribe. I would be willing to bet the recordings and papers go to HQ so they have things about us we have no access to.
I've always thought patriarchal blessings were among the less innocuous of LDS traditions. But yours and the ones above help me see PBs are another glue holding people to the cult. My blessing was 95% useless. The only line with any relevance was, "If you will be humble, you will be privileged to associate with people of many backgrounds," which I'd have done anyhow. And I'm not humble. I have to add a caveat, however: With many people, I'm sort of New Age spiritualist. That is, I accept the human power to commune with God / the Universal Mind and that billions of people do this every day. Further, my first experience with such communion was upon getting my PB at age 14. So I don't fully rule out that even a Mormon patriarch can have a spiritual gift. The quality must vary from man to man, with many having no gift at all. (BTW it was my guides who showed me that temple rituals have little or nothing to do with true religion and who didn't discourage me from leaving the church. I guess they aren't Mormons.)
I burned mine after I left the cult. Part of me wishes I had it and part of me is glad I got rid of it because of how I would be reading it. I can just let it go.
A Patriarch instruction manual, eh? That's funny: my patriarch said that the church does not give ANY instructions to patriarchs about this calling. He must have been lying. Plus, how can the blessing formats be so similar if there's no instructions?
I heard someone say new Patriarchs are invited to church headquarters or wherever the original paper copies of blessings are kept so they can read several blessings given in the past for examples.
Of course people shouldn't compare their blessings. It's probably the same reason that they tell people not to tell their temple name because when the whole spiel began, there was no way that they could foresee the Internet and how everybody would know in the future everybody gets the same name on the same day of the month.
Mine said i would have children, marry a righteous man... waiting! 71 yr old, divorced lol. 2 long pages my BYU roomie was devastated hers was about three quarters of a page!!! left this!
My wife's blessing says she has a "radiant smile" that she can bless others with...basically that she would be a lot more righteous if she smiled more.
That's a whole bunch of rules given to someone who is receiving words from God. So, if God has a lot to say, is the patriarch supposed to tell God to stop? Or does he just stop recording around the 2 page make and let God keep rambling until He realizes that he's been cut off? And if the lineages are mixed, do they just declare the predominant one? And wouldn't everyone's spiritual lineages just be through God? So are these physical lineages? In which case, families should be the same.
I would caution this young lady that she is talking about extremely sacred areas of the gospel and she will held accountable for anything she says that may detriment to the truth at hand. This is part of the literal gathering that is and has been going on since the restoration of the Gospel in these latter days.
According to the book of Hosea in the Bible, Ephraim was a very wicked tribe, being idol worshipers and committing sexual sins. Interesting that it's the most pronounced lineage in the "blessings".
Not sure about divorce, but I've heard general authorities are strongly pressured to get remarried if their spouse dies. I imagine it's similar for patriarchs & I'm sure that also comes with a strong pressure to avoid getting divorced.
I'm sure divorces are rare anyway. Imagine how fulfilled the wife is with her secretarial duties, and making sure the vacuum patterns in the carpet invite the Spirit...
Well, the patriarch randomly assigns them. My wife was one of the very few that had two patriarchal blessings from two different patriarchs, because the first one was never sent to the church by the first patriarch. I was present at both blessings, and each patriarch assigned my wife to a different tribe.
@@gcarson19 good point. I never knew until my out brother told me. You get betrayed on so many levels and then they gaslight and say “we never said it was a special inspired name”. What bullshit.
Amazing niche you have created, keep at it you are destined for notoriety. Your subject matter is endless. P.S. your diction, enunciation and presentation are top shelf.
Thank you...I unintentionally ended up in this space (it's a story) and now that I'm here I continually remind myself of how much I've healed because of other creators. I hope I can be that voice of validation for someone who needs it.
It’s the same principle of treasure digging: Including a promise that you will find the treasure, so you’re always watching for it. When it doesn’t come to pass, you question whether you performed with exactness and question YOURSELF instead of the church. The exact same reasons Joseph gave when he couldn’t find treasure for people. He’d blame the crew and the land owners.
I hadn't even thought of it in that light but you are right. Wow.
@@GenerallyUnquotable Once you define the way he conducted the treasure digs, you find that the entire church runs on this model.
My two sisters-in-law got their patriarchal blessings 2 years apart, but from the same exact patriarch. When they shared theirs together, they realized both their blessings were 100% identical, word for word. They both left the church pretty quickly after that. My patriarchal blessing told me that I would be a prominent figure in the government and make important decisions that would be helpful for the country, as well as the church. I shared my blessing with a couple close friends(I was at college), and one friend told me I should start taking political science classes. Nope. I have always been a severe introvert, and HATE public speaking. I hate meeting new people, and I hate politics in general. After my blessing, I knew either God didn't know me very well, or the patriarch was full of BS.
One of worst mistakes I made when I was young was trying to follow my patriarcal blessing a road map it often led me to a dead ends. I remember talking to the patriarch of the church around 1981, when I was back from my mission, his opinion was that a patriarchal blessing was more like a prayer of hopful possibles but did not consider it a type of fortune telling.
Your blessing is nearly the same as mine. Mother in Zion, be worthy, be obedient, build the kingdom.
I’m fairly new at deconstructing. (Month 9) Last week I shredded my patriarchal blessing. Felt good. One more step.
I scanned mine before shredding it...just in case.😇
I burned mine. It’s good to let it go.
My grandfather was a patriarch, too! My dad recorded my sister’s patriarchal blessing and transcribed it for him. 😂
My Patriarchal Blessing says Reply hazy; try again.
We lived in the mountains and our patriarch was in the valley. On our way down the hill to get my blessing a motorcycle in front of us went over a cliff. We stopped, but he had gone too far down the cliff for us to help so we proceeded down and called 911 at the bottom (this was in the 70s so no cell phones). Never found out what happened. I should have taken it as a sign.
I haven't read it in centuries. I should dig it up to see how it all is turning out now that I'm an old man. Probably most of it will be in the next life.
Edit: I found it. It sure talks a lot about Satan wanting my soul. I guess it came true. I align much more with The Church of Satan or Satan's Temple than stniaS yad-rettaL fo tsirhC suseJ fo hcruhC ehT (Satan likes it backwards - victory x2) 🤘
😂 hehe, best response ever!!
As you talked about each person being placed in a specific lineage. Reminded me of the sorting hat in Harry Potter.🫢
My wife was one of the very few that had two patriarchal blessings from two different patriarchs, because the first patriarch failed to send his to church headquarters. I was present at both blessings, and each patriarch assigned my wife to a different tribe. When I later asked another patriarch about this discrepancy, he replied, "So, what?" He had no answer.
So yeah: they're all made up, and the points don't matter.
I'm curious as to where you live as THAT EXACT SAME THING HAPPENED TO ME!!!
Just like the name given to you at the temple. Possibly all the same on that day.
My mom was given 2 blessings, too, years apart, but it was because her lineage wasn't declared in her first one. The patriarch had one job, lol...
@@jaybeemaybe1 Two different countries.
TWO tribes? I dare say that if we polled everyone who has gotten a blessing we would have many more stories that are out of the norm. It's why the church doesn't want us sharing our blessings.
The rock in a hat might be a better way😅😅😅
I went with my girlfriend. We were both divorced at the time and she got her patriarchal blessing when she was about 40, The patriarch at one point said you have been blessed with a wonderful body. Both of us opened our eyes and looked at each other in astonishment as we both thought. Did he really say that? Sure enough, when she got her printed copy that little sentence was gone.
Oh boy!
He was checking her out.
Gross
My patriarchal blessing has a lot of pretty generic phrases and instructions. One that was particularly not helpful was the promise of being a peacemaker in my family. As a teenager with a narcissistic step parent, that promise held me back from learning to set healthy boundaries.
I remember growing up occasionally hearing about a patriarchal blessing or baby blessing that promises someone will live to see the second coming. As a TBM, I was never sure how much to trust those. About 10 years ago, I was present for a baby blessing which included the promise of living on earth until the second coming.
Thanks for this. As a never-Mo, it's interesting to hear what these patriachal blessings sounded like.
We were present for one of our son’s blessings, and the patriarch stated he was to marry a woman from the tribe of Dan…..Dan. Well that was heartbreaking to see him over the years stress over finding a girl who was from the tribe of Dan. I tried to explain to him that it wasn’t etched in stone and he will know when he falls in love with a girl and wants to marry her….not needing to check a box on lineage. My children are pretty literal in their interpretation of things and it never helped when it came to the church…..you can question deity but never question “prophetic” statements made by men. 🙄
Wow. Not to make light of it, but I can imagine his first dates being a bit awkward.
@@MrRaythMandblues it was very awkward for him…..for a time he chose to not pursue serious relationships with some girls simply because they weren’t from the tribe dictated in his blessing….we hoped he wasn’t pitching that question to them during a date. Finally he disregarded the blessings admonition and married an awesome girl. So you can guess how excited he was when I told him we were leaving the church 🤷♂️
@@charleygappmayer8496 Yay! A happy ending.
How heartbreaking for all of you to go through that experience. So glad he found his person!
I knew a patriarch that took over a year to finish up editing blessings he had given. Amazing isn’t it? To believe that one church has the authority to speak for God. How presumptuous. How evil it is to make a person think he’s in the path that leads to heaven when there’s overwhelming evidence to the contrary. If only Mormon members would do the research necessary to find the truth of it all. The facts are out there…they just need a reason to pursue it all.
I had “you will be a leader of women” which feels like a safe thing to say in all girl’s blessings because they can only ever be in callings with women, so eventually they will have something like that. Not like they could say you will be a leader of men or an apostle or anything like that.
OMG...you are so right. I never thought of that until right now.
I was told I would work with young people and a few years later was first councillor for MIA. But everything else didn't happen like marriage and children. Like you I liked the 10% increase when I stopped paying tithing. Keep up the brilliant work 🙏
This makes me think of the journal entries people wrote about Joseph Smith Sr. After JS Jr called him as the first Church Patriarch, JS Sr would charged a fee for giving these blessings and probably spent most of the money on booze as he was a well known town drunk.
Lucy would give readings to the locals to bring in extra household money. The entire family was deep into witchcraft, as taught to them by Lumen Walters from England.
My patriarchal blessing sounds so much like my own. It always struck me as being Mormon fortune telling. BTW I burned my patriarchal blessing, along with my temple robes and garments, when I escaped from LDS Inc.
I shredded my PB. I remember when I tossed all the garments and temple clothes in the garbage. It was such a feeling of freedom.
I cut up the garments and temple clothes before I threw them away.
Thank you for posting. Super interesting!
I am 80 now. My life did not go as my blessing was given 😊❤
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I hope this was a good thing for you!
@@mofoquette
Pretty much was! I got everything I wanted..children..grandchildren..got to bake and cook..keep a home and sew..my special love. I helped my husband build homes too. But I got some Hard things too.. Everything I wanted but a husband who was never pleased enough to give one thank you. He was an asshole but God Saved me from him after 32 years and then I was homeless..but God took care of me.
My mom said mine was fake because I didn't come from the same tribe. I would be willing to bet the recordings and papers go to HQ so they have things about us we have no access to.
I've always thought patriarchal blessings were among the less innocuous of LDS traditions. But yours and the ones above help me see PBs are another glue holding people to the cult. My blessing was 95% useless. The only line with any relevance was, "If you will be humble, you will be privileged to associate with people of many backgrounds," which I'd have done anyhow. And I'm not humble.
I have to add a caveat, however: With many people, I'm sort of New Age spiritualist. That is, I accept the human power to commune with God / the Universal Mind and that billions of people do this every day. Further, my first experience with such communion was upon getting my PB at age 14. So I don't fully rule out that even a Mormon patriarch can have a spiritual gift. The quality must vary from man to man, with many having no gift at all. (BTW it was my guides who showed me that temple rituals have little or nothing to do with true religion and who didn't discourage me from leaving the church. I guess they aren't Mormons.)
I burned mine after I left the cult. Part of me wishes I had it and part of me is glad I got rid of it because of how I would be reading it. I can just let it go.
A Patriarch instruction manual, eh? That's funny: my patriarch said that the church does not give ANY instructions to patriarchs about this calling. He must have been lying. Plus, how can the blessing formats be so similar if there's no instructions?
I heard someone say new Patriarchs are invited to church headquarters or wherever the original paper copies of blessings are kept so they can read several blessings given in the past for examples.
@@dianamoss159😂😂😂
Of course people shouldn't compare their blessings. It's probably the same reason that they tell people not to tell their temple name because when the whole spiel began, there was no way that they could foresee the Internet and how everybody would know in the future everybody gets the same name on the same day of the month.
That was such a disappointment to me. My new name was Rebecca, but I guess they spelled it like Rebekah.
I’d love to see a pic of you back in your Molly Mormon days
They should be open to all Mormons. Hopefully change comes. I pray for them at church.
Mine said i would have children, marry a righteous man... waiting! 71 yr old, divorced lol. 2 long pages my BYU roomie was devastated hers was about three quarters of a page!!! left this!
My wife's blessing says she has a "radiant smile" that she can bless others with...basically that she would be a lot more righteous if she smiled more.
😂😂😂
That's a whole bunch of rules given to someone who is receiving words from God. So, if God has a lot to say, is the patriarch supposed to tell God to stop? Or does he just stop recording around the 2 page make and let God keep rambling until He realizes that he's been cut off?
And if the lineages are mixed, do they just declare the predominant one? And wouldn't everyone's spiritual lineages just be through God? So are these physical lineages? In which case, families should be the same.
I would caution this young lady that she is talking about extremely sacred areas of the gospel and she will held accountable for anything she says that may detriment to the truth at hand. This is part of the literal gathering that is and has been going on since the restoration of the Gospel in these latter days.
You still have the rose-tinted glasses on.
A patriach should wash his hands before returning to work 😅
Hilarious. I can see the plaque by the Stake Center men's room mirror. Not in the ladies room, of course.
Dang... there's so much similarity of patterns of speech in mine... 10 years later and several states away...
According to the book of Hosea in the Bible, Ephraim was a very wicked tribe, being idol worshipers and committing sexual sins. Interesting that it's the most pronounced lineage in the "blessings".
Seriously?!? That’s crazy!
@GenerallyUnquotable Nothing about this procedure is mentioned in the Bible. When did you start questioning LDS?
I'm confused. a) Patriarch has lifetime calling and b) Patriarch must be married. What if he divorces?
Not sure about divorce, but I've heard general authorities are strongly pressured to get remarried if their spouse dies. I imagine it's similar for patriarchs & I'm sure that also comes with a strong pressure to avoid getting divorced.
I'm sure divorces are rare anyway. Imagine how fulfilled the wife is with her secretarial duties, and making sure the vacuum patterns in the carpet invite the Spirit...
@@gcarson19😂😂😂
I don’t see how a child can have a different lineage than their parents? So god randomly assigns them?
Well, the patriarch randomly assigns them. My wife was one of the very few that had two patriarchal blessings from two different patriarchs, because the first one was never sent to the church by the first patriarch. I was present at both blessings, and each patriarch assigned my wife to a different tribe.
Same as new names in the temple. Try telling a TBM that their new name is selected by the date of their endowment...
@@hnorth1599 wow. Interesting. Then again not really
@@gcarson19 good point. I never knew until my out brother told me. You get betrayed on so many levels and then they gaslight and say “we never said it was a special inspired name”. What bullshit.
Keep looking atop every abominable temple and to the fallen angel Moroni.
Moroni was Joseph's "familiar" spirit.