@@TrekCentral Also, not a hundred or so years later did Soran become Picards pain in the rear bulkhead. The movie literally states the time passed when switching to the holodeck USS Enterprise Ship of the line. :) I believe it says 78years later if memory serves. :)
Ive always wondered what the in universe explanation was as to why earth always seems to be woefully short on starships when it hits the fan. Aside from having multiple shipyards in system or nearby, youd think being the seat of power would rate some kind of prestige fleet reserve just for image. Or at least some kind of "first step/last line" of starbases in the near vicinity with either permanent ships or enough traffic in and out to qualify as an emergency reaction force. I know starfleet "isnt military" except when they are, but it still seems like a glaring oversight.
Especially after Earth was attacked by the Zindi and the Breen. A Borg cube reached earth twice. When Voyager returned home 18 ships with an additional 9 were sent to intercept the Borg sphere that carried Voyager home. Starfleet definitely needs some sort of home defense fleet.
After getting into that wreck ("it was the nexus"...whatever you say Harriman...) and misplacing Kirk all on its first mission, starfleets insurance provider decided that it would be easier to total the whole thing out.
I forget which novel or sourcebook (definitely not primary canon) that I saw it in, but that the idea was that the Enterprise-B subclass' 'cheeks' on the secondary hull were side-projecting sensor arrays powerful enough to see deep into the neutral zone and keep track of Romulan vessels. The ships could race up and down the border getting as much sensor data as possible and creating a database of Romulan vessels identified by their various energy signatures. Like tracking and identifying IRL submarines by the quirks of their machinery noises.
The Excelsior-class is my favorite class of ship. I think it looks really sleek yet strong, I like that it's bigger than the Constitution Refit but not overly big like the Galaxy-class to me feels.
There's just something with the design that doesn't sit right with me. I'm guessing since I'm not a fan of the C either that part of it is the angled nacelle pylons. It just feels out of place when generally each iteration gets smoother and more blended. I rather like the main saucer, and the 4 impulse look, and given a choice, I prefer the "cheeks" version of the secondary over the smooth.
I would have loved to see the dockmaster after the enterprise B came back to dock after the nexus incident....... "Welcome back enterprise!!!! Hope you had a easy and good cruise!!!! *WTF DID YOU DO????* You launch for a fun PR cruise for the reporters and come back with this damage????? Captain you are going to report to me now!!!! You are going to be commanding a moon shuttle!!!!
For you, the day Bison graced your Universe was the most important day of your life. But for me, it was Tuesday. ~The man who blew up the Enterprise B...probably
I've always enjoyed the canon that the Enterprise B was under the command of Sulu's daughter and was lost due to a pathogen in the Beta quadrant. I even used that as an opening to a fanfic where the last of the crew are about to set the self-destruct before they fall victim to the pathogen to keep the ship from falling into the wrong hands then end up being transported to the Delta quadrant when Voyager falls prey to a Hirogen attack, the crew forced to use the Enterprise B as Voyager is nearly destroyed before being rescued. Too bad I never got past a few chapters, few people want to read my type of off-brand fanfiction and I wasn't going to write it for no one to read.
Demora Sulu would - according to the ShatnerVerse ST novels - later attain the rank of Admiral and when in triple-digit age attend Kirk's wedding on Chal.
I've written three novels (Not fan fiction for Trek) and a few people have read them, but not too many. I still find it rewarding. I encourage you to write, even if just for yourself.
Far more importantly I'd like to know exactly what's going on with that Excelsior Class so-called secondary shuttle bay underneath. There's all sorts of technical looking bits and pieces there, a very deflector or warp core looking blue light going on and lots of exposed bulkheads and beams without floors, walls or ceiling, and no bay doors. Whoever designed this model intentionally put a lot of work and focus into to it for a reason but there ain't no way that's for shuttles or vessels of any kind. Looks more like some docking frame in there for a space station to clasp with or something else. If would have been far easier for the designer and model construction to simply close it off, add shuttle bay doors and a photon torp launcher, windows etc but they took a far more complicated approach to that area of the ship and it must have been for a very good reason. It's always triggered my interest and we rarely get to see a good look at what's actually there in great detail.
I figure it served until the Enterprsie C was ready to launch. It seems the excelsior class had a very long lifespan. The real question is how long did starfleet go without an Enterprsie in service between Ent C to the launch of Ent D?
Hadn't thought about that before. Seems kinda weird since the big E was if not the actual flagship at least the poster child for starfleet for so long before and after. Plus on more than one occasion they've been willing to rename a ship to get am important name back into commission.
Well, in Picard, the only Enterprises we know survived into the 24th century are the original NX-01 (modified sometime after the end of the Enterprise), the Enterprise A, and the D, though technically just the saucer section paired up with the stardrive section of another Galaxy class ship. Which means it’s in kind of a Starship of Theseus scenario.
In the second genesis video game, Star Trek the next generation there is a dossier of the USS enterprise B located in the computers library information. I believe it gave a description of what happened to the ship. I still have the game and my genesis, but don’t know if itwould even work today. I suppose I can try to collect the stuff scattered across my own home in my parents to see if it still works. If it does, I can rip the information Off and post it.
The Enterprise B is my favorite Enterprise. The design is soooo different than any other ship. The C goes back the the more traditional saucer/secondary hull of the Constitution class ships. Although, my next favorite is Big D. It's the ship I "grew up on"...TNG.
Forgive me if im wrong but its the 4th ship to have the name, not the third. NX01, NCC1701, NCC 1701-A (I know NX01 was pre-federation, but it was in service when the federation was formed so its still a federation ship)
Star Trek Legacy could even tell the story of what happened to the B, keep the rumours mentioned in the show but say, something happens in deep space with the G and they find the ruined hulk of the B. Seven's crew are able to get back with the G being far more advanced being able to utilize what ever brought them to said place where the B resided. All records recovered by Seven and her crew. Just a thought.
I like to think the Enterprise-B had a long and distinguished service record under several different captains and was simply retired after several decades in the field. Maybe she was even the Enterprise that was around the longest perhaps.
According to the Star Trek novels, the Enterprise-B, after his encounter with Kirk and company, Captain Harriman made a name for himself to command the legacy. On Tuesday. 😊
A Star Trek story I'm planning to write features Enterprise-B being recovered and used by the crew of the Cerritos, mainly the Lower Deckers, to save the entire California Class. I also hope to give the Enterprise-B a proper send off.
I think they list the Enterprise-B as the third, because it is the third U.S.S. Enterprise. As much as we love the NX-01, it was a pre-Federation ship. It was only called 'Enterprise', not 'U.S.S. Enterprise'. This may seem like a hypertechnicality to some, but one thing I've learned from dealing with bureaucrats (and Starfleet is known for having a LOT of them!) is that hypertechnicalities can make all the difference.
By the time the federation had formed, Starfleet had moved away from the old NX's onto Warp 7 capable ships. Enterprise was the first NX so it makes sense that by the time the federation had been finalized and the United Earth Starfleet had been folded into the Federation Starfleet the NX-01 had been decommissioned.
The Excelsior Class always had a unique and sophisticated look. For me, it and the Constitution Refit (Enterprise A) are the best-looking designs ever devised in Star Trek.
i still want to know what idiot decided to launch the main flagship with no weapons or tractor beam or medical staff also would really be awesome to see enterprise b in the upcoming lost era movie also truly one of my favorite ships in startrek
Imagine having such a horrible first voyage, the admiral of the previous version of your ship dies saving everyone, I'd be warry of captaining that ship.
Yes and no, same actor (Tim Russ) but different character, an unnamed human lieutenant in Generations.... he actually was also another human character in a TNG episode (S6E18 "Starship Mine") and he played yet another character on an episode of DS9 (a Klingon, S2E4 "Invasive Procedure"), this is in addition to his appearances across various shows & media as Tuvok
In the Enterprise technical manual, it's explained that the Enterprise-B had a somewhat illustrious career after the events of Generations (which saw Harriman relieved of command). In the Tomed Incident of 2311, the Enterprise-B had a cloaking device installed and entered the Neutral Zone. Following that, Demora Sulu was promoted to Captain and took the ship on a 4-year exploration mission. In 2329, while on another such mission, the entire ship contracted a mysterious and ultimately uncontrollable virus that wiped out the crew. (It's worth noting that both that book and the Next Generation Technical Manual clearly state that the Enterprise-A was the Yorktown repaired and renamed).
That’s what I think too. Except that my theory (yes I have my own theory) is that the Enterprise-B was retired from Starfleet in 2329 and was placed in museum status for the next 39 years. The ship would re-enter service in the wake of the Battle of Wolf 359 as the USS Lakota (NCC-42768) in 2368.
There is a commemorative plaque dedicated to the earlier vessels named Enterprise and the small components that were incorporated in 1701-B. This tradition actually goes back to the late 20th century started as a joke by some p/t Nasa interns that were part of the workforce that was prepping the Space Shuttle Enterprise for transportation to it's final mission as a museum piece. The interns snuck several box end and socket wrench tools and proceeded to remove 6 bolts and nuts from Space Shuttle Enterprise's zero G toilet mockup and a grand tradition was born! In an event lost to time 1701's very first Captain Robert T April handed this historic paper sandwich bag now over 200 years old to his Chief Engineer and told him to get on it. After much swearing and drilling the Chief Engineer was finally able to use those 6 historic bolts to secure the captain's toilet to the deck in his quarter's head. Decades later when the broken down hulk of the soon to be former USS Yorktown was towed into Spacedock to hastily have it's name and registry number scraped off Commander Scott continued the tradition. While prepping Enterprise to be stolen he quickly removed the bolts from Kirks toilet. Scotty had a hunch if he didn't do it then there was a good chance that the beat up Enterprise would not be coming back. And after handing the legendary commode fittings to a jr. grade tech to install the fittings and the proud tradition continued!
Basically, you had two Sulu captains in history that commanded an Excelsior-class starship. Well, at least that explains why in Star Trek: Picard, we didn't see the Enterprise B being displayed at the museum station. And I thought it was because it wasn't gonna arrive until Tuesday. 😏
If i understand it correctly beams an co were build in but not installed so this would need an IT group that would come till thuesday and install the drivers etc. Btw till today i don't know if the blue light from the warp necells were atop or at the side at the necells
@@paulrasmussen8953 I tend to believe the official Starfleet version that says that the ship was lost in deepspace after a mysterious decease wiped all of it's crew... But, at the same time that sounds like a Section 31 cover up for something darker...
@BurstupTV that's the way they wrote it. Makes little sense to me either. But it checks out. Nx01 was a 'united earth ship.' Back when enterprise was announced, this is how the studio tried to get around the whole "but you've been saying Kirk's was the first for 50 years!" Plot hole they were creating. 😂 bless them for trying though.
@0:37 -- "With the arrival of the Enterprise-C in STNG, we know something must have happened to the -B." I disagree with the assumption that the Enterprise-B must have suffered some kind of bad fate. Sometimes, ships just reach the end of their service life and are retired.
This is the Enterprise we're talking about. So far, only the NX and the "-A" have managed to make it to retirement (and even then both had significantly shorter service lives, with the A only getting 7 years). The No-Bloody-A, C, and D all fell in battle. The F was slated for early decommissioning (was it ever officially explained why?), and what happened to the E was so horrifying that it could not be said out loud, though Worf still claims innocence. Seems like being named the Enterprise raises the chances of the ship not making it to its planned EOL significantly.
Installed on Tuesday. Just got me thinking, would days actually have any meaning in space? Everyone on different planets and all. Even if we keep it just to humanity what happens if they keep the tradition on naming there days sequentially m-s Tuesday on Earth isn't going to mean a lot on Mars.
Here is wild theory, considering official synopsis states Georgiou will be confronted by the "sins of her past" What if the film turns the Tomed incident into a even bigger cover up that now includes an invasion from Terran Empire. Like the Terran Empire invaded the Prime universe & took over these Stafleet star bases near the Neutral Zone...with the goal to provoke a war with the Federation and Romulan Empire.
Yes tomed i think was first mentioned in tng season one just the date and incident. Funny i never read that book but i read a different book , koybashi maru short stories about different trek characters and the test , Scotty used the transporter to beam torpedoes, and in voyager they did it with the borg ( dark frontier)
When did Tuvok go from Excelsior to the Enterprise B? You would think Sulu would be smart and keep a Vulcan onboard unless the new captain thought it wouldn't be The Enterprise without one.
Chekov: how big is your Medical Staff..... Captain: the Medical Staff arrives on Tuesday...........Chekov: leave a detail note (pointing to two reporters ) you and you you both have just become nurses come with me.🤣🤣
Funny at the movies they had the skydiving scene and kirk was not wanting to go. But it never made it into the home version and many stay say they have not seen that opening....I know its not the Mandela effect!
I believed that the USS Enterprise B's crew was wiped out by a plague. Starfleet flagships defeat to a virus brought shame to Starfleet and the Federation who proudly trailblazed science and medical technology. They recovered the vessel; which was still a powerhouse of a ship, and rechristened it to the USS Lakota where it humbly served Starfleet up to the Dominion war. The "USS Lakota" stood a decent chance against the modern USS Defiant due to it being overpowered for its time. It is the only Excelsior class to have the Enterprise B's unique variant design seen while normal Excelsiors were still to be found in active service.
I always think for most ships that disappeared out in the galaxy at warp or were destroyed… it seems unlikely most were ever recovered or a cause found. Not even wreckage.
Well the book says she was lost in the Tarsus Reach area when the crew contracted a disease of some sort. Its was never found and it was well after Demora Sulu's command. But is not canon due to not being a movie so.
Of course Captain Picard had to go down to deflector dish control, because Captain Kirk wasn't due to visit until Tuesday.
YOU GOT AHEAD OF ME.
Trek happens
And ahead of me...
Glad I'm not the only one who caught that.
Yep, @4:44
4:44 Captain Kirk went down to deflector control, not Captain Picard ;-)
That part was funny, I had to poke my ears at first and rewind.
I'm watching on my TV and was like, "WHO WENT WHERE!"
A minor slip of the tongue haha!
- Jack
@@TrekCentral Also, not a hundred or so years later did Soran become Picards pain in the rear bulkhead. The movie literally states the time passed when switching to the holodeck USS Enterprise Ship of the line. :) I believe it says 78years later if memory serves. :)
Picard was there in (paradoxical) spirit!!
Cameron had trouble with his Dad's car now you're giving him a StarShip, please...
Bueller?
To be fair, it was the fault of a Cardassian agent named Ferris.
Lmfao 😂
@@chefdean7257 I always do that when I get in a hurry. Thanks and corrected.
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Ive always wondered what the in universe explanation was as to why earth always seems to be woefully short on starships when it hits the fan.
Aside from having multiple shipyards in system or nearby, youd think being the seat of power would rate some kind of prestige fleet reserve just for image.
Or at least some kind of "first step/last line" of starbases in the near vicinity with either permanent ships or enough traffic in and out to qualify as an emergency reaction force.
I know starfleet "isnt military" except when they are, but it still seems like a glaring oversight.
Especially after Earth was attacked by the Zindi and the Breen. A Borg cube reached earth twice. When Voyager returned home 18 ships with an additional 9 were sent to intercept the Borg sphere that carried Voyager home. Starfleet definitely needs some sort of home defense fleet.
After getting into that wreck ("it was the nexus"...whatever you say Harriman...) and misplacing Kirk all on its first mission, starfleets insurance provider decided that it would be easier to total the whole thing out.
A mystery Star Trek series on the B's fate would be something!
I forget which novel or sourcebook (definitely not primary canon) that I saw it in, but that the idea was that the Enterprise-B subclass' 'cheeks' on the secondary hull were side-projecting sensor arrays powerful enough to see deep into the neutral zone and keep track of Romulan vessels. The ships could race up and down the border getting as much sensor data as possible and creating a database of Romulan vessels identified by their various energy signatures.
Like tracking and identifying IRL submarines by the quirks of their machinery noises.
they had a warp core why couldn't they detonate the warp core that would give your an antimatter explosion💪
Always my favorite ship by far. Generations blew my mind and still does. Enterprise B rocks.
The Excelsior-class is my favorite class of ship. I think it looks really sleek yet strong, I like that it's bigger than the Constitution Refit but not overly big like the Galaxy-class to me feels.
No skinny neck
There's just something with the design that doesn't sit right with me. I'm guessing since I'm not a fan of the C either that part of it is the angled nacelle pylons. It just feels out of place when generally each iteration gets smoother and more blended.
I rather like the main saucer, and the 4 impulse look, and given a choice, I prefer the "cheeks" version of the secondary over the smooth.
I think the sovereign class is the sleekest/sexiest
I personally never liked the Excelsior Class Starships. To me at least, they always looked as if they were pregnant.
The Enterprise-B was the second longest serving enterprise in starfleet. Was in service for 35 years when she was lost. Her Captain was Kamora Sulu
why was most stuff installed on the enterprise B on Tuesday? why not Monday or Wednesday? why did it have to be on Tuesday?
Demora Sulu
I would have loved to see the dockmaster after the enterprise B came back to dock after the nexus incident.......
"Welcome back enterprise!!!! Hope you had a easy and good cruise!!!! *WTF DID YOU DO????* You launch for a fun PR cruise for the reporters and come back with this damage????? Captain you are going to report to me now!!!! You are going to be commanding a moon shuttle!!!!
For you, the day Bison graced your Universe was the most important day of your life. But for me, it was Tuesday. ~The man who blew up the Enterprise B...probably
quick change the channel
I actually really love the two ENT-B Lost Era novels. It's fun to know what could have been with the crew and Demora Sulu as captain.
I've always enjoyed the canon that the Enterprise B was under the command of Sulu's daughter and was lost due to a pathogen in the Beta quadrant. I even used that as an opening to a fanfic where the last of the crew are about to set the self-destruct before they fall victim to the pathogen to keep the ship from falling into the wrong hands then end up being transported to the Delta quadrant when Voyager falls prey to a Hirogen attack, the crew forced to use the Enterprise B as Voyager is nearly destroyed before being rescued. Too bad I never got past a few chapters, few people want to read my type of off-brand fanfiction and I wasn't going to write it for no one to read.
I probably would have read it.
Demora Sulu would - according to the ShatnerVerse ST novels - later attain the rank of Admiral and when in triple-digit age attend Kirk's wedding on Chal.
I've written three novels (Not fan fiction for Trek) and a few people have read them, but not too many. I still find it rewarding. I encourage you to write, even if just for yourself.
It was agood read i was thinking the same thing as I recall she was lost in the Tarsus Reach area due to the virus
plz continue if you do i wish to have the link to it or email a copy I will read it!!!
the Enterprise -B is this years Hallmark Keepsake Ornament 🤣
Sold out, too.
@@WiseSnake Already? It's April. We are a ferocious lot of fans aren't we.
@@BronzeAgeBryon They come out in October
If they can do an excellent series on Pike’s Enterprise, I think they can pull of a series about Enterprise B! Let’s go!
Any chance you could do something on the First Federation and the Christmas decoration of a starship, The Fesarius?
Far more importantly I'd like to know exactly what's going on with that Excelsior Class so-called secondary shuttle bay underneath.
There's all sorts of technical looking bits and pieces there, a very deflector or warp core looking blue light going on and lots of exposed bulkheads and beams without floors, walls or ceiling, and no bay doors. Whoever designed this model intentionally put a lot of work and focus into to it for a reason but there ain't no way that's for shuttles or vessels of any kind. Looks more like some docking frame in there for a space station to clasp with or something else.
If would have been far easier for the designer and model construction to simply close it off, add shuttle bay doors and a photon torp launcher, windows etc but they took a far more complicated approach to that area of the ship and it must have been for a very good reason. It's always triggered my interest and we rarely get to see a good look at what's actually there in great detail.
I figure it served until the Enterprsie C was ready to launch. It seems the excelsior class had a very long lifespan. The real question is how long did starfleet go without an Enterprsie in service between Ent C to the launch of Ent D?
Depending on the source between 18 and 19 years between the destruction of Enterprise C and the commissioning of D (2344 and either 2362 or 2363).
Hadn't thought about that before. Seems kinda weird since the big E was if not the actual flagship at least the poster child for starfleet for so long before and after.
Plus on more than one occasion they've been willing to rename a ship to get am important name back into commission.
Well, in Picard, the only Enterprises we know survived into the 24th century are the original NX-01 (modified sometime after the end of the Enterprise), the Enterprise A, and the D, though technically just the saucer section paired up with the stardrive section of another Galaxy class ship. Which means it’s in kind of a Starship of Theseus scenario.
@@daltysmilth starship of theseus....like that lol.
It would be amazing to see a Star Trek show that is based in the Enterprise b error
It got blowed up on Monday.
In the second genesis video game, Star Trek the next generation there is a dossier of the USS enterprise B located in the computers library information. I believe it gave a description of what happened to the ship. I still have the game and my genesis, but don’t know if itwould even work today. I suppose I can try to collect the stuff scattered across my own home in my parents to see if it still works. If it does, I can rip the information Off and post it.
What happened to the Enterprise B? You'll find out..........................................................but not until Tuesday.
You seem to have changed a lot on the way down to deflector control, Jean-Luc! LOL!!!
I'm looking forward to your video on the USS ENTERPRISE NCC 1701 C......
We’ve actually done one of them! You can find it here on the channel :)
- Jack
Adam, you're due a promotion, lad. Well done.
Loving when Adam narrates. 🎉
The Enterprise B is my favorite Enterprise. The design is soooo different than any other ship. The C goes back the the more traditional saucer/secondary hull of the Constitution class ships. Although, my next favorite is Big D. It's the ship I "grew up on"...TNG.
Forgive me if im wrong but its the 4th ship to have the name, not the third. NX01, NCC1701, NCC 1701-A (I know NX01 was pre-federation, but it was in service when the federation was formed so its still a federation ship)
Cheers Adam
Come to to think of it, maybe Malcom did not install the "phase cannons" on the Enterprise NX-01 (phasers on later class ships) until Tuesday.
Star Trek Legacy could even tell the story of what happened to the B, keep the rumours mentioned in the show but say, something happens in deep space with the G and they find the ruined hulk of the B. Seven's crew are able to get back with the G being far more advanced being able to utilize what ever brought them to said place where the B resided. All records recovered by Seven and her crew. Just a thought.
LOL at 4:45 you said Captain Picard goes down to Deflector control. ;)
I think you got Picard and Kirk confused.. 😂
I like to think the Enterprise-B had a long and distinguished service record under several different captains and was simply retired after several decades in the field. Maybe she was even the Enterprise that was around the longest perhaps.
Technically it was, since it didn't blow up or refitted during 36 years of service.
You mentioned they had no torpedoes. Any idea when those were due to arrive ?
9:50 WTF is an “expiration” mission??????????????
According to the Star Trek novels, the Enterprise-B, after his encounter with Kirk and company, Captain Harriman made a name for himself to command the legacy. On Tuesday. 😊
That welcoming of Soran cracked me up. 🤣🤣🤣
You said “CPT Picard went below decks…”. Duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhgghhgggg!
Adam you are the best
A Star Trek story I'm planning to write features Enterprise-B being recovered and used by the crew of the Cerritos, mainly the Lower Deckers, to save the entire California Class. I also hope to give the Enterprise-B a proper send off.
4th ship not 3rd right?
NXO1
NCC-1701
NCC - 1701 A
Then NCC - 1701 B
Love the vids! ❤
Came here to mention the same thing. 👍
They may have been referring to the shared registry more than the name.
I think they list the Enterprise-B as the third, because it is the third U.S.S. Enterprise. As much as we love the NX-01, it was a pre-Federation ship. It was only called 'Enterprise', not 'U.S.S. Enterprise'. This may seem like a hypertechnicality to some, but one thing I've learned from dealing with bureaucrats (and Starfleet is known for having a LOT of them!) is that hypertechnicalities can make all the difference.
Third ‘Federation’ Enterprise, the NX-01 was pre-Federation
By the time the federation had formed, Starfleet had moved away from the old NX's onto Warp 7 capable ships. Enterprise was the first NX so it makes sense that by the time the federation had been finalized and the United Earth Starfleet had been folded into the Federation Starfleet the NX-01 had been decommissioned.
How dare you steps down on picard 4:40😂
The Excelsior Class always had a unique and sophisticated look. For me, it and the Constitution Refit (Enterprise A) are the best-looking designs ever devised in Star Trek.
I'm gonna say before this video starts, that they are still waiting for the warp drive to be installed.
i still want to know what idiot decided to launch the main flagship with no weapons or tractor beam or medical staff also would really be awesome to see enterprise b in the upcoming lost era movie also truly one of my favorite ships in startrek
Imagine having such a horrible first voyage, the admiral of the previous version of your ship dies saving everyone, I'd be warry of captaining that ship.
10:13 is that Tuvkok?????
He briefly got an ear bobbing as a result of messing up Sulu's tea order.
Yes and no, same actor (Tim Russ) but different character, an unnamed human lieutenant in Generations.... he actually was also another human character in a TNG episode (S6E18 "Starship Mine") and he played yet another character on an episode of DS9 (a Klingon, S2E4 "Invasive Procedure"), this is in addition to his appearances across various shows & media as Tuvok
In the Enterprise technical manual, it's explained that the Enterprise-B had a somewhat illustrious career after the events of Generations (which saw Harriman relieved of command). In the Tomed Incident of 2311, the Enterprise-B had a cloaking device installed and entered the Neutral Zone. Following that, Demora Sulu was promoted to Captain and took the ship on a 4-year exploration mission. In 2329, while on another such mission, the entire ship contracted a mysterious and ultimately uncontrollable virus that wiped out the crew. (It's worth noting that both that book and the Next Generation Technical Manual clearly state that the Enterprise-A was the Yorktown repaired and renamed).
Some people think The Enterprise B was simple re-named into the Lacota.
That’s what I think too. Except that my theory (yes I have my own theory) is that the Enterprise-B was retired from Starfleet in 2329 and was placed in museum status for the next 39 years. The ship would re-enter service in the wake of the Battle of Wolf 359 as the USS Lakota (NCC-42768) in 2368.
I believe its due to launch next Tuesday when the medical staff and tractor beam get installed.
Bucket of Bolts Sir Adam..a Bucket of Bolts...
Was the captain’s ability to command supposed to be installed on Tuesday😂😂
4.44 you say Picard 😂
There is a commemorative plaque dedicated to the earlier vessels named Enterprise and the small components that were incorporated in 1701-B.
This tradition actually goes back to the late 20th century started as a joke by some p/t Nasa interns that were part of the workforce that was prepping the Space Shuttle Enterprise for transportation to it's final mission as a museum piece.
The interns snuck several box end and socket wrench tools and proceeded to remove 6 bolts and nuts from Space Shuttle Enterprise's zero G toilet mockup and a grand tradition was born!
In an event lost to time 1701's very first Captain Robert T April handed this historic paper sandwich bag now over 200 years old to his Chief Engineer and told him to get on it.
After much swearing and drilling the Chief Engineer was finally able to use those 6 historic bolts to secure the captain's toilet to the deck in his quarter's head.
Decades later when the broken down hulk of the soon to be former USS Yorktown was towed into Spacedock to hastily have it's name and registry number scraped off Commander Scott continued the tradition. While prepping Enterprise to be stolen he quickly removed the bolts from Kirks toilet.
Scotty had a hunch if he didn't do it then there was a good chance that the beat up Enterprise would not be coming back. And after handing the legendary commode fittings to a jr. grade tech to install the fittings and the proud tradition continued!
Basically, you had two Sulu captains in history that commanded an Excelsior-class starship. Well, at least that explains why in Star Trek: Picard, we didn't see the Enterprise B being displayed at the museum station. And I thought it was because it wasn't gonna arrive until Tuesday. 😏
If i understand it correctly beams an co were build in but not installed so this would need an IT group that would come till thuesday and install the drivers etc.
Btw till today i don't know if the blue light from the warp necells were atop or at the side at the necells
Wasn't the Agamemnon a scientific ship without any type of armament. Just basic shields? Am I right or wrong on that.
4:43 Captain Picard? 😅 you're just making sure we're all paying attention right?😅😅😅
Captain Picard? Temporal Investigations don't arrive until Tuesday
Would the B not be the 4th ship to carry the name Enterprise? Nx-01, 1701, 1701-A, then the B?
NX-01 was not a Federation ship
Captain who went to deflector control?? 4:44
10:13 - And look! There is Tuvok! I never understand that episode in Star Trek: Voyager!
@@gilbert1975nf Tuvok didnt report until that following Tuesday
What series is this
there is no cannon for her history other than "lost" ?
No, it is one of Star Trek biggest mistery
there was nothing mentioned or shown in canon, it’s all speculation and non-canon outside of the movie
I say successfully decomissioned
@@paulrasmussen8953 I tend to believe the official Starfleet version that says that the ship was lost in deepspace after a mysterious decease wiped all of it's crew...
But, at the same time that sounds like a Section 31 cover up for something darker...
@tiagopatricio3805 nah they need to have more then the A there
What part of A ended up in B?
The Enterprise B was not the third federation ship to bear the name Enterprise, but the fourth (after NX-01, NC-1701 and A).
NX-01 is not counted as a Federation ship ;)
- Jack
LOL okay, because Archer founded the Federation later? Got it. 😸
@BurstupTV that's the way they wrote it. Makes little sense to me either. But it checks out. Nx01 was a 'united earth ship.' Back when enterprise was announced, this is how the studio tried to get around the whole "but you've been saying Kirk's was the first for 50 years!" Plot hole they were creating. 😂 bless them for trying though.
@@xedanis101 😹Yeah it's kinda funny
What is surprising is that there aren't any other Star Fleet ships in the area that could better help rescue the ships.
wouldn't it be the 4th ship to be called enterprise? nx 01 ,ncc1701, 1701 a, then 1701 b ?
@0:37 -- "With the arrival of the Enterprise-C in STNG, we know something must have happened to the -B." I disagree with the assumption that the Enterprise-B must have suffered some kind of bad fate. Sometimes, ships just reach the end of their service life and are retired.
This is the Enterprise we're talking about. So far, only the NX and the "-A" have managed to make it to retirement (and even then both had significantly shorter service lives, with the A only getting 7 years). The No-Bloody-A, C, and D all fell in battle. The F was slated for early decommissioning (was it ever officially explained why?), and what happened to the E was so horrifying that it could not be said out loud, though Worf still claims innocence.
Seems like being named the Enterprise raises the chances of the ship not making it to its planned EOL significantly.
Kirk had to disappear in order to meet Picard
I like a fan theory that the Enterprise B was recommissioned as Lakota we saw in DS9.
Installed on Tuesday. Just got me thinking, would days actually have any meaning in space? Everyone on different planets and all. Even if we keep it just to humanity what happens if they keep the tradition on naming there days sequentially m-s Tuesday on Earth isn't going to mean a lot on Mars.
Ferris took it for a spin around Chicago
I hope the Section 31 explores this, that Long Trek is set around this time
Here is wild theory, considering official synopsis states Georgiou will be confronted by the "sins of her past"
What if the film turns the Tomed incident into a even bigger cover up that now includes an invasion from Terran Empire.
Like the Terran Empire invaded the Prime universe & took over these Stafleet star bases near the Neutral Zone...with the goal to provoke a war with the Federation and Romulan Empire.
Yes tomed i think was first mentioned in tng season one just the date and incident.
Funny i never read that book but i read a different book , koybashi maru short stories about different trek characters and the test , Scotty used the transporter to beam torpedoes, and in voyager they did it with the borg ( dark frontier)
would love to have a series with the B we dont know much at all of it
I kind of like the idea that the Enterprise B was decommissioned and the recommissioned the Lakota to free up the name for the Enterprise C.
We need an enterprise b era series
I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a tractor beam today.
When did Tuvok go from Excelsior to the Enterprise B? You would think Sulu would be smart and keep a Vulcan onboard unless the new captain thought it wouldn't be The Enterprise without one.
Chekov: how big is your Medical Staff..... Captain: the Medical Staff arrives on Tuesday...........Chekov: leave a detail note (pointing to two reporters ) you and you you both have just become nurses come with me.🤣🤣
Funny at the movies they had the skydiving scene and kirk was not wanting to go. But it never made it into the home version and many stay say they have not seen that opening....I know its not the Mandela effect!
I believed that the USS Enterprise B's crew was wiped out by a plague. Starfleet flagships defeat to a virus brought shame to Starfleet and the Federation who proudly trailblazed science and medical technology.
They recovered the vessel; which was still a powerhouse of a ship, and rechristened it to the USS Lakota where it humbly served Starfleet up to the Dominion war.
The "USS Lakota" stood a decent chance against the modern USS Defiant due to it being overpowered for its time. It is the only Excelsior class to have the Enterprise B's unique variant design seen while normal Excelsiors were still to be found in active service.
You and you. Fid a very good job under the circumstances
I always think for most ships that disappeared out in the galaxy at warp or were destroyed… it seems unlikely most were ever recovered or a cause found. Not even wreckage.
Tuesday..Wednesday..and Thursday..lol.!... but mostly Tuesday...
According to novels that were cannon the enterprise B was decommissioned after devora sulu took command. The romulan and kilingon war began.
So did Rachel Garrett serve on the Enterprise B early in her career?
We don't know much about her early career! Hopefully the Section 31 movie will tell us more :)
- Jack
How many Starfleet vessels have carried the Enterprise name?
Captan… Picard went down to deflector control…? Uh….
knew picard wss old... but not that old... time travel maybe?
The poor Enterprise -B kills Captains & can't keep a Captain 😢
Well the book says she was lost in the Tarsus Reach area when the crew contracted a disease of some sort. Its was never found and it was well after Demora Sulu's command. But is not canon due to not being a movie so.
4:43 his name is "Kirk".
I just realized that they used wrong model of Excelsior. As Enterprise-B is clearly the Lakota class.
The B started it's mission from spacedock in orbit of Earth, right? So how did the Nexus get so close to Earth and nobody noticed it?
Theoretically interesting!
Capt Picard sure does get around....... {Defector Control}