For the L flashlight, have you updated the bulb to a LED? You would find the power drain is so much reduced. They make AA battery LED L flashlights now. I am not saying which is better. I am just saying, like other things, we can update our gear. On the 'hawk, some 550 cord and a few pieces of 100mph tape, you can fashion a test holder. Try it with a Camelback bladder so the draw is by reaching over your non sling shoulder. I like the lighter hawk. I also carry an old K-bar in an old navy fibertype (ridged) scabbard. No vision of Mel Gibson here, I just like both types of tools. I also have a hand trowel to dig cat holes in the bigger deployment pack. It is a cheap plastic type with some paint ot cover the orange color. While I like the old E tool, don't need it as I would be digging a hasty fighting hole at the most. Thanks for your videos. Semper Fi
I think that patriots surrounding the state need to stand ready to reinforce our brethren in Illinois. Id be happy to help coordinate efforts. *stay alert, stay alive* 👀
I enjoyed watching your old videos like why 5.56 is good for SHTF and your old minuteman loadout. nice to see you've upgraded, reminds us to review our stuff every now and then. lookin good dude
The whole vest vs suspender debate depends on how you see yourself operating. If you are going to operate in vehicles or aircraft then vest is great. If patrolling as light infantry, lots of time in the prone. Spending time in a hide site or surveillance site than a harness or suspenders will work better. I liked that I could sleep with one arm through my harness. My 2 cents
That's an interesting take. The prone issue is kind a variable though. If those mag pouches are just a little forward then they greatly hamper being in the prone.
Nice, I run the LBV as a minute man setup as well. If I have to grab and go for a short term event, I dont want my expensive stuff taken by the police afterwards. You can fit twenty round mags in the grenade pouches. Ammo, water, cliff bars, and a blowout kit is what I run on mine. I keep it attatched to a riggers belt with a 3 liter water bladder on the back, and a universal pistol pouch so I can drop whatever is handy at the time into it.
condor tornado is decent for an affordable all purpose holster, blackhawk has a new one that looks decent that I have been considering. I think it is called the omnivore.
Like the update. I commented on your other load out about it making me feel even older. Thank you for your service. I was in the Seabees from 95-2000. We were issued all the gear the marines didn’t want anymore. We literally has warehouses full of Vietnam era vehicles.
Have that same LBV88 put together as a neighborhood defense rig. The CFP90 assault pack attaches nicely to it along with the Woodland Butt Pack below it. In the grenade pouches, I keep a set of mini binoculars and Lowes waterproof notepad in one, the other holds a old german surplus smoke grenade. Only real complaint is that it gets hot during the summer, I much more enjoy my H-Harness with updated magazine pouches and padded pistol belt.
Glad that you got to get a vid out. Hope all is well over there for you folks. Hope the job is working out, no pun intended. Great info on the gear. God bless
Looks like a much more serviceable system for you but where do you put your morale patches lol? I use the Condor MOPC plate carrier with CATI AR500 plates. Initially I'll run it slick with only an IFAK (tear away design) attached at this point. It allows me to wear it somewhat discreetly under a simple windbreaker. I expect an SHTF event to be a series of evolutions and my system will evolve as the need and circumstances dictate as I have quite a bit of MOLLE gear to attach if and when needed.
Oh brother I'm so glad that you were able to update the old web gear...lol!! Done get me wrong I got nothing against good ol Alice gear but there is so much better nowadays and for a good surplus price...Also you said you don't know what to do with the grenade pouch? Recommendation: get a nice 20 head lamp at Walmart an extra set of batteries for it (4 pack), in the other you can put a fire kit...Lighter, water proof matches, small ferro rod and some tinder...hope it helps brother!!! Shalom!!!
Do your GI mags have anti tilt followers? That light green follower looks like they don’t, you might want to upgrade those. Adds greatly to magazine feed issues.
Not sure why you would think referring to being a minuteman as stolen valor? I have been in the modern militia movement since before Waco ( and in fact, was one of the first that I know off to suggest that we needed to organize as such back in that time period, and muster and respond about what was going on at Waco), and have never heard that it was some select group of people. Anybody that is ready to respond in a fast direct and timely manner to some threat, either local, regional or national, but certainly expediently on a local level, is a minuteman. Or would you suggest we wait for some command structure to call muster to respond to some immediate threat like brigands having their way with some of our neighbors or hostile forces coming ashore as an advanced party to an invasion?
My thought on the Minute Man in the modern context is that he needs to be regularly training with an organized group. At least that's thoughts on it right now.
We were issued LBVs before going over to Kuwait in 2004. We were told he had to wear the LBV over our Body Armor which we thought was stupid because the Armor carrier had all the Mollie on it in order to mount pouches. The catch was, we had to buy our own mag pouches at the time. Some just used the old mag pouches with the clips. In short, we didn't use the LBV at all during our deployment to Kuwait and Iraq.
That's interesting. MOLLE was a rumor when I was in. I thought everyone loved it and trashed the old stuff as soon as they could get their hands on the new hotness.
@@TheRevoltingMan We were issued Alice style gear and got the Armor carriers in Kuwait. Were were only issued the Armor Plate Carriers and no accessories to go on them so we had to buy any accessories we wanted from the PX system. Some of our unit members didn't want to spend the money so they just used the old Alice mag pouches on their new Molle system Armor carriers.
I have a similar setup. Need to loose my gut which I am working on for sure because it has become an issue with mine fitting now. Sucks, but motivated.
I use the modern MOLLE LBV vest for my minuteman setup, with all that webbing I can arrange pouches to my specific taste and they are about as inexpensive as the generation before. The only downside is that just like batteries, pouches are sold separately.
What you remember in the service was the LBV-88. Had 4 magazine pouches that went straight across the chest. This is the LBV-88E. I really like the shoulder-holster like arrangement of the magazines. Only downside is that with the suspenders, I used to like to wear my pistol in a tanker holster, and with a setup like that, it has to go on the hip. Grenade pouches -- put your Lensatic compass in one and compression bandage in the other. See those big straps that go across the shoulder pads toward the top? Those are for holding the straps on the ALICE pack. They didn't have sternum straps and the pack straps will slide right off those big ol' shoulder pads. Only downside to these rigs is that they were designed for GI gear. If you ever go to PMAGs, Gen 1 usually fit in the pouches, Gen 2 may not, and Gen 3 and H&K mags won't fit at all. These didn't exist back then and were not considered in the design. BTW, if you ever have to fight with the 'hawk, the Trail Hawk is the far better choice. If this is a Minuteman Rig, then I'd keep the Trail Hawk with it, if not on it.
Seems like several large layers of fabric covering a lot of skin area = good way to prevent sweat from wicking away body heat. That’s one big advantage to ALICE, the straps aren’t excessively wide and unbuckling the belt helps with heat control. Maybe I’m wrong though, never used the LBV in the field.
Have you given any thought to body armor? I have had good success with spartan armor steel plates and sentinel plate carrier. I don't run a "war belt" though. I don't like a ton around my waist, just a normal riggers belt with a 357, a couple speed loaders, a fixed blade, a leatherman, and a TQ, that is it on my belt.
@@TheRevoltingMan For me, it is a process or trial and error. I like to set things up and walk in it for some distance, and that tends to reveal any flaws the system may have. I always tend to go heavy, but as time goes on, I find myself going for a lighter set up as much as possible.
I was in starting 2001 in marines. And yup we had the h-harness for boot camp and once in fleet I got that rig. And I loved it. I own my own gear. And i have that set up to go over my combat load. Aka plates. Nice setup tho.
what about a plate carrier & lvl IV armor, i know alot of peeps say they are to heavy and what not but hey get out and hump alittle your body will get use to it
The minute man in my opinion should be the same as the lone wolf. I am ready to react as needed depending on the circumstances, I do not have to wait on a group to form. I would prefer not to be associated with a group. I am personally capable of being a lone wolf. Not that I would't help support my constitutional rights.My dream is for a place and time where America will once again be seen as the last/best hope for the Earth. God Bless America!
Hey nice setup! Those frag pouches might actually come in handy for a couple z-fold or compressed Israeli army bandages for emergencies where perhaps you can't get to your IFAK in your buttpack, but need to stop bleeding quickly.
Grenade pouches work well for a military compass, headlamp and/or a spare batteries bag. When you can find them, the newer LED L flashlights do a pretty good job. Mine is about 1/2 scale size of the older D battery version; LED uses 3 AAA, has the color lenses and weighs 3.9 ozs. Just some food for thought...
I run a sick condor chest rig with six AR mags with 62grain green tips four beretta 92 mags a Olight m2t Warrior and big can of mace and a esee model 4 and I all so have my beretta holster on the rig
TRM, I'm confused and conflicted about this issue. I'm not even sure what my goals should be about gear choices, especially packs, battle belts, vests, and armor. I personally seem to be wanting something to do it all and I am having trouble getting past that. I want a huge bug-out backpack AND a get-home-bag AND an assault-pack/battle-belt AND an every-day carry kit. AND I want it all modular. AND I want it all concealed carry and grey-man. (worse, I want to do all that with my present backpacking/hiking gear, LOL). Should I change my goals, or just get over it? Or compromise? Or what? Presently, I'm using a 24 inch duffle with carrying strap as my get-home bag and planning on throwing that on my (smallish) packframe along with some back-packing gear. That leaves no room for a battle belt or assault pack. So that doesn't really work. Yet I don't particularly like the molly-gear approach either (which, realistically, seems the best approach but, if so what are the best SPECIFIC choices in that regard?). Would it be better or worse to get a good-but-huge external pack-frame-based bag and just put the other bags in it and jettison the extraneous stuff if a fight seems imminent? (I've got some large military-surplus duffles with shoulder straps). I'm so confused.
Right now as a Civilian, I just have the GI bandolier mag pouches for my ARs and Old Russian mag pouches with messenger bag straps for my AKs. So I'd have one mag in the rifle and 3 to 4 mags in the pouches. The idea is I would just use my everyday carry stuff and then grab my rifle and ammunition if I had to respond to any threat. I also have two 4 cell Chinese Chest rigs for AK mags as well. Armor will be the next step for me especially with ANTIFA acting all crazy.
@@deangullberry5148.. I have some good twisted rope wrapped around my flashlight. I used it last to hang the light over my last Jeep repair...lol. I keep it on my flashlight for weekend camping trips. We hang our food and waste at night to keep the critters from bumping the cans. What I needed was a good braided rope. Something strong enough to tow but light enough to carry with me. Ya never know when ya gonna have to hang something heavier then food.
>stand by to retire an old veteran and welcome a new recruit let the hazing begin! i'm gonna need a roll of duct tape, a swivel chair and a handle of captain morgan!
A minute man is "ready in a minute's notice". In the modern era real minutemen are rare, many claim the title without living up to the responsibility. If you have the financial means to run all over the country, resisting tyranny, and don't need to get time off approved to keep your job, or not have to wordy about how to support 12 kids, and a pregnant wife, you're in a position to be one.
Be similar to volunteer firemen, out the door when the phone rings. Maybe back in 10 or maybe back tomorrow. Gear is staged, edc, Stuff by the door Stuff in the truck. Truck always above half a tank.
I believe non infantry training school back then was MCT (Marine Combat Training). I was in Marine Infantry from (97 -01) so I went to SOI and Weapons Training. In the fleet we used the LBV. I would put the LBV against any new chest rig out there. We used the LBV over the flak and without depending on what type mission we were conducting. Kind of the same principle as the TAP (Tactical Assault Panel) system. You can mount the TAP panel to your plate carrier and then remove it to use like a chest rig.
I think the infantry school was ITB (infantry training battalion), the poges did something else and both sides were the the School of Infantry but that was a long time ago.
Very nice! I would be interested in a video on the Ranger roll. Do you have one for that already? How is the new Job going? I have a black BOB and I didn't have anything like your LBV's so I just ended up buying a vAv YAKEDA Tactical Rapid Assault Chest Rig Vest off amazon. Check it out if you get a chance.
Have you tried the "pipehawk" from cold steel? It's right in the middle of the two you have ,not too big not too small. I love it. Keep up the good vids Brother!
So I'm finding this on Amazon, but I'm finding it "enhanced" and then "enhanced with large pistol belt and fanny pack". Did your come with the large pistol belt and fanny pack?
The lbv tends to be a stand alone like the H harness without a belt. If it comes with a belt and fanny pack you're getting a similar kit to whats shown.
I saw that exact same one on Amazon reb0254. You're going to want the belt and the butt pack if they're any good (I didn't check them out). The vest needs a belt to attach to at the bottom.
I don't wear gloves either. I work at a well known water and sewer pipe company in Newman and they're always on me for not wearing gloves. But muddy gloves r slippery and I can't spin nuts or shovel so I think u should keepnur hands tough in case u lose em u ain't Sol.
Depending on dominate hand one granade pouch can be a compass pouch for lensatic compass. A small snap link to hang gloves because cold hands first thing in the morning are harder to shoot with. The other grenade pouch can hold four MRE toilet papers and some KFC wipes for that part of your 24 hours 😜
20 rounders should fit in the grenade pouches, if not a ten rounder will, headlamp is also a good thing in there and so is an Israeli bandage. The superior thing about these as opposed to a chest rig is it is easier to get low in the probe. I like them too. Good choice!
Get a old police baton loop for the tomahawk they are really cheep because the extendable ones come with a way to carry. So the surplus on this is overwhelming.
In the Canadian Forces we used the “Y” harness in the 1980s. I really hated it because it dug in you shoulders. I think it was from the 1970 or the 1960s. I do a load wear vest and it can take plates it is from the 1990s. It can take mags and you can fit a radio. It really hard to find the webbing here in Canada it cost so much..... average price is around 200+ for a cheap harness and it made in China.
Body armor is nice to have but in the modern military they ride into battle. In the militia if you road March 20-30 miles to a battle scene your body armor is probably going to be laying in a ditch somewhere and enroute or your going to be to fatigued to fight. Edit: I forgot to add that body armor for the militia in my opinion works best in the defense position or base camp area.
@@airborneranger1each110 I am not familiar with those. If they are lightweight then you may be right. Destroy a large if they are pretty lightweight then what is the cost? and yet being lightweight if they are expensive then I am going to assume they are out of reach of the common Man.
Hey hey Nice upgrade, brother. Keep your buttpack, and the two canteens. Run a belt ammo pouch on the left side, and you'll have a well distributed 300 rounds. When I had my LBV I ran an ammo pouch on my right side as well, but it was first aid. It would be called an IFAK now, but I was CLS certified, and kept stuff there for that. Look up airsoft smoke grenades. They actuallywork well, and might fit the grenade pockets. Finally.... Streamlight.com when DoD realized the moonbeams were garbage they went to Streamlight for the update.
DEAN I BEG TO DIFFER ABOUT THE FLASH LIGHT I CAN START A FIRE WITH THEM IF I HAD 2. JUST GET THE MINIS. THEY WORK JUST LIKE THE BIG GUYS. PEACE OUT. KEITH HERE
Great looking gear RM...it should serve you well 👍it looks like the vest issued to us for our deployment (s) in Iraq. Ive abandoned most of my LBE gear and broke down and purchased a tactile vest, and then I have my plate carrier from Spartan armor that in its self is a LBE. Do you have any body armor? If not I highly recommend Spartan Armors gear. I believe we need to have a discussion concerning the gun registry being proposed in the state of illionios..we ALL must stand together to fight this. I think we should develop a comms system as well to keep eachother informed and to reinforce eachother once they decide to disarm us and I believe you sir are in position to establish and coordinate this system. Ill help in any way I can..be well sir and thank you
I agree. Reid Henrichs had a very good video on it recently and I may add my own two cents too. I do not have body armor yet but hope to get some at some point.
Commenting just to raz you a little.... It would be better if you dressed up the loose bits of adjustable strap on the vest. That being said your rig is set up and ready! I need to work on it. Keep on Keepin on!
i also used the y harness as my issue 782 gear when i was active duty. but i fell in love with the defensor fortis rig that we used when i was with air force security forces. it is based on london bridge trading company rig. you can see it here: th-cam.com/video/BuJqedMttiI/w-d-xo.html
I was watching the cRsenal channel awhile back they did a vid about a Montenegro revolver and the militia at the turn of the century you should check it out well I don't by any stretch of the imagination know anywhere near as much as you men about guns or militias but mate it was intresting
I use similar for hiking. But I got away from 1. The bumpack 2. Nato bottle holders. I use MTP British 58 pattern bottles and pouches. I put them on a molle converters to Alice. Still use a H harness. Simple reason is on hot days less coverage less heat trapped. Rangeroll. Never use it. I made my own pouch sits on top of water bottle pouches attached to H harness. I can still put a full sized pack on if need be. That pouch has drybag 3 season down bag, 3x3m tarp, cordage. And wet weather gear. Some of that goes in pack If I take one. Food. Not MRE. Porridge n tuna n rice and dehydrated peas 2oz soy sauce. I can get 5 days in 1 pouch if rice is uncooked. Or 2 if I take Uncle bens rice sachets cooked. Im over backpacks tbh. I keep it light.as. I can throw a tomohawk between pouch and H harness. A knife between pouches. I carry 4 to 7 waterbottle pouches depends on season. For eg cold weather top (Norgie) fits in on pouch with merino longjohns for sleeping and head torch. Summer, that pouch is off. British packs ( Bergens) have a 10 to 15 lt " rocket pouch" zip on side pouch. Takes as much real estate as a issue 3lt camelback. It also has a clip on harness. If you sew on a sleeve at back of rocket pouch viola, bladder pocket. That 12lt pouch is my main pach. As I go on consume eat use it ends up on top of me water bottle pouches all but empty. Those water bottle pouches, use a Nato bottle in them you still got room for a hip flask or a bag of Uncle bens pre cooked rice. Tbh getting rid of bum pack was the best thing ever. Travel lite freeze a bit at night. But if you go for some civvie gear you can do so much more
@@TheRevoltingMan thinking id b ok with a belt i have mags on the front so i have plenty of room but it is heavey Level 3 with side plates but i might change out to a law enforcement type profile instead of military cuz i like the idea of being able to drop my load if need be lighten my weight and b more comfortable....just a thought im a little handicapped n cant run do i load up and move slow or slim down and move a little faster but still cant run ....yur thoughts on that scenario
I really like my light weight Bosnian ARMIJA chest rig for my AR load out. It’s similar to a chicom, but it buckles in the front so it’s super fast to slip on. I have a molle buttpack and blowout kit attached. And then an extra tourniquet and gauze in the grenade pouches. You could also use the grenade pouches for: snacks, gloves, 20 rd AR mags (sometimes you can fit two), smoke, radio, cellphone, folder knife, pistol mags, etc. you can sometimes find these rigs on EBay for $35-40. They were made for the Militias fighting the Serbs in the Bosnian war and are top notch quality. They fit both AR and AK mags. Here is a video of how they work: th-cam.com/video/CqtU2BeyTu8/w-d-xo.html
As much as I love ALICE and pre-MOLLE gear in general (I also love MOLLE, btw), I would abandon your kit in favor of a modern plate carrier. You need protection from pistol/rifle rounds, which you have none. Get a modern PALS-webbing adorned plate carrier (and plates, obviously). Then mix and match your MOLLE pouches as needed. And then use either an ALICE or MOLLE pack to carry your non-fighting gear.
IAM OL SCHOOL ILL USE WHAT WAS BATTLEFIELD TESTED IN VIETNAM BY OUR BROTHERS & STYLISH WOUNT GET THE JOB DONE IT JUST GETS URE ASS DEAD. KEEP THEM COMING BROTHER. BTW. YOU MIGHT WANT TO PRACTICE WITH THAT HAWK IN CLOSE CORDERS COMBAT. AS FOR ME THEY WON'T GET THAT CLOSE. PEACE OUT. BLACK DOG.
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For the L flashlight, have you updated the bulb to a LED? You would find the power drain is so much reduced. They make AA battery LED L flashlights now. I am not saying which is better. I am just saying, like other things, we can update our gear. On the 'hawk, some 550 cord and a few pieces of 100mph tape, you can fashion a test holder. Try it with a Camelback bladder so the draw is by reaching over your non sling shoulder. I like the lighter hawk. I also carry an old K-bar in an old navy fibertype (ridged) scabbard. No vision of Mel Gibson here, I just like both types of tools. I also have a hand trowel to dig cat holes in the bigger deployment pack. It is a cheap plastic type with some paint ot cover the orange color. While I like the old E tool, don't need it as I would be digging a hasty fighting hole at the most. Thanks for your videos. Semper Fi
Thank you sir and Semper Fi! Great comment!
I keep a headlamp in one of the grenade pouches. Fits nicely.
Good idea!
People from Illinois pay attention, you may be needing this gear sooner than later.
I think that patriots surrounding the state need to stand ready to reinforce our brethren in Illinois. Id be happy to help coordinate efforts. *stay alert, stay alive* 👀
That situation escalated quickly.
get it now get it cheap if the ballon goes up do want to be carrying your magazines in your pockets?
Mines already ready I have this load out with a few slight differences
I enjoyed watching your old videos like why 5.56 is good for SHTF and your old minuteman loadout. nice to see you've upgraded, reminds us to review our stuff every now and then. lookin good dude
Thank you. What's the pistol in your profile pic?
Don't forget your IFAK back on the belt or a field dressing in a pouch on the shoulder.
I wore that exact vest in 1994, stationed in Germany. US Army
The whole vest vs suspender debate depends on how you see yourself operating. If you are going to operate in vehicles or aircraft then vest is great. If patrolling as light infantry, lots of time in the prone. Spending time in a hide site or surveillance site than a harness or suspenders will work better. I liked that I could sleep with one arm through my harness. My 2 cents
That's an interesting take. The prone issue is kind a variable though. If those mag pouches are just a little forward then they greatly hamper being in the prone.
Nice, I run the LBV as a minute man setup as well. If I have to grab and go for a short term event, I dont want my expensive stuff taken by the police afterwards. You can fit twenty round mags in the grenade pouches. Ammo, water, cliff bars, and a blowout kit is what I run on mine. I keep it attatched to a riggers belt with a 3 liter water bladder on the back, and a universal pistol pouch so I can drop whatever is handy at the time into it.
Sounds good. Who makes pistol pouch?
condor tornado is decent for an affordable all purpose holster, blackhawk has a new one that looks decent that I have been considering. I think it is called the omnivore.
Like the update. I commented on your other load out about it making me feel even older. Thank you for your service. I was in the Seabees from 95-2000. We were issued all the gear the marines didn’t want anymore. We literally has warehouses full of Vietnam era vehicles.
Have that same LBV88 put together as a neighborhood defense rig. The CFP90 assault pack attaches nicely to it along with the Woodland Butt Pack below it. In the grenade pouches, I keep a set of mini binoculars and Lowes waterproof notepad in one, the other holds a old german surplus smoke grenade. Only real complaint is that it gets hot during the summer, I much more enjoy my H-Harness with updated magazine pouches and padded pistol belt.
I was hoping the mesh would help with that. The ones we used on active duty were solid.
My setup? Condor modular molle chest rig with a Condor molle water hydration carrier II attached to the back. Makes a great day pack.
Glad that you got to get a vid out. Hope all is well over there for you folks. Hope the job is working out, no pun intended. Great info on the gear. God bless
Nice set up. Been using a belt order since I was 13. Very underestimated piece of kit. Thanks for sharing 😼 👍
Thank you!
Looks like a much more serviceable system for you but where do you put your morale patches lol? I use the Condor MOPC plate carrier with CATI AR500 plates. Initially I'll run it slick with only an IFAK (tear away design) attached at this point. It allows me to wear it somewhat discreetly under a simple windbreaker. I expect an SHTF event to be a series of evolutions and my system will evolve as the need and circumstances dictate as I have quite a bit of MOLLE gear to attach if and when needed.
I had that LBV in '96-'00, for its ups and down I prefer Alice. Even have an Alice for my AK.
Man I just love the background of your vids. I'd would love to live in a place like that you lucky lucky man
Halfcan Tan Georgia
I know mate lovely country hope to see with my own eyes one day soon please God
We live in a valley. You should see the really pretty areas.
Oh brother I'm so glad that you were able to update the old web gear...lol!! Done get me wrong I got nothing against good ol Alice gear but there is so much better nowadays and for a good surplus price...Also you said you don't know what to do with the grenade pouch? Recommendation: get a nice 20 head lamp at Walmart an extra set of batteries for it (4 pack), in the other you can put a fire kit...Lighter, water proof matches, small ferro rod and some tinder...hope it helps brother!!! Shalom!!!
Good ideas!
Do your GI mags have anti tilt followers? That light green follower looks like they don’t, you might want to upgrade those. Adds greatly to magazine feed issues.
I'm not sure. I need to look in to that whole issue. I'm not familiar with it.
Light green are the first generation of anti-tilt followers. There are better but those aren't bad.
Not sure why you would think referring to being a minuteman as stolen valor? I have been in the modern militia movement since before Waco ( and in fact, was one of the first that I know off to suggest that we needed to organize as such back in that time period, and muster and respond about what was going on at Waco), and have never heard that it was some select group of people. Anybody that is ready to respond in a fast direct and timely manner to some threat, either local, regional or national, but certainly expediently on a local level, is a minuteman. Or would you suggest we wait for some command structure to call muster to respond to some immediate threat like brigands having their way with some of our neighbors or hostile forces coming ashore as an advanced party to an invasion?
My thought on the Minute Man in the modern context is that he needs to be regularly training with an organized group. At least that's thoughts on it right now.
Goat Moag I agree with you about the minute man. Any man that is able to go on a moment's notice is in my opinion considered to be a minute man.
I put my compass in the Grenade pouch’s
Where do keep the grenade's?:)
@@luckymomx4 🤣🤣
Small binoculars fit in a grenade pouch as well
We were issued LBVs before going over to Kuwait in 2004. We were told he had to wear the LBV over our Body Armor which we thought was stupid because the Armor carrier had all the Mollie on it in order to mount pouches.
The catch was, we had to buy our own mag pouches at the time. Some just used the old mag pouches with the clips. In short, we didn't use the LBV at all during our deployment to Kuwait and Iraq.
That's interesting. MOLLE was a rumor when I was in. I thought everyone loved it and trashed the old stuff as soon as they could get their hands on the new hotness.
@@TheRevoltingMan We were issued Alice style gear and got the Armor carriers in Kuwait. Were were only issued the Armor Plate Carriers and no accessories to go on them so we had to buy any accessories we wanted from the PX system. Some of our unit members didn't want to spend the money so they just used the old Alice mag pouches on their new Molle system Armor carriers.
My grandfather showed me a trick for wood axe handles, soak the axe head end in antifreeze and it will swell up and make a long lasting tight fit.
That looks like something I should look into, thanks.
I have a similar setup. Need to loose my gut which I am working on for sure because it has become an issue with mine fitting now. Sucks, but motivated.
Going to take some time to get used to, but it looks functional enough.
They're ok for normal size guys. Us big boys not so much...
Lol, don't be a curmudgeon you old goat! There were a few good things made after you were born. Not many but a few.
I use the modern MOLLE LBV vest for my minuteman setup, with all that webbing I can arrange pouches to my specific taste and they are about as inexpensive as the generation before. The only downside is that just like batteries, pouches are sold separately.
What you remember in the service was the LBV-88. Had 4 magazine pouches that went straight across the chest. This is the LBV-88E. I really like the shoulder-holster like arrangement of the magazines. Only downside is that with the suspenders, I used to like to wear my pistol in a tanker holster, and with a setup like that, it has to go on the hip.
Grenade pouches -- put your Lensatic compass in one and compression bandage in the other.
See those big straps that go across the shoulder pads toward the top? Those are for holding the straps on the ALICE pack. They didn't have sternum straps and the pack straps will slide right off those big ol' shoulder pads.
Only downside to these rigs is that they were designed for GI gear. If you ever go to PMAGs, Gen 1 usually fit in the pouches, Gen 2 may not, and Gen 3 and H&K mags won't fit at all. These didn't exist back then and were not considered in the design.
BTW, if you ever have to fight with the 'hawk, the Trail Hawk is the far better choice. If this is a Minuteman Rig, then I'd keep the Trail Hawk with it, if not on it.
I like this one better than the one I used I think.
Seems like several large layers of fabric covering a lot of skin area = good way to prevent sweat from wicking away body heat.
That’s one big advantage to ALICE, the straps aren’t excessively wide and unbuckling the belt helps with heat control.
Maybe I’m wrong though, never used the LBV in the field.
Have you given any thought to body armor? I have had good success with spartan armor steel plates and sentinel plate carrier. I don't run a "war belt" though. I don't like a ton around my waist, just a normal riggers belt with a 357, a couple speed loaders, a fixed blade, a leatherman, and a TQ, that is it on my belt.
I do have armor now but I haven’t worked how I’m going to incorporate it yet.
@@TheRevoltingMan For me, it is a process or trial and error. I like to set things up and walk in it for some distance, and that tends to reveal any flaws the system may have. I always tend to go heavy, but as time goes on, I find myself going for a lighter set up as much as possible.
Great upgrades!
Thank you!
I was in starting 2001 in marines. And yup we had the h-harness for boot camp and once in fleet I got that rig. And I loved it. I own my own gear. And i have that set up to go over my combat load. Aka plates. Nice setup tho.
what about a plate carrier & lvl IV armor, i know alot of peeps say they are to heavy and what not but hey get out and hump alittle your body will get use to it
The minute man in my opinion should be the same as the lone wolf. I am ready to react as needed depending on the circumstances, I do not have to wait on a group to form. I would prefer not to be associated with a group. I am personally capable of being a lone wolf. Not that I would't help support my constitutional rights.My dream is for a place and time where America will once again be seen as the last/best hope for the Earth. God Bless America!
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Fucking POG
I got my praetorian guard 3+ plate carrier, 3 mags in front(grabbing more mag pouches) Ifak, Ontario Rat3 knife, gloves, and still adding.
I was Army in 89-82; replaced my "Y" harness with an "H" harness back then. Much more comfortable.
I liked the "H" harness but LBV is a better option I think.
Just picked up another mint LBV-88e. I love them, got a 94, and 97.
Oh, and check out his video on attaching the buttpack. th-cam.com/video/kiGaUjjYOt0/w-d-xo.html
Hey nice setup! Those frag pouches might actually come in handy for a couple z-fold or compressed Israeli army bandages for emergencies where perhaps you can't get to your IFAK in your buttpack, but need to stop bleeding quickly.
israeli bandage wont fit in them. USMC tk4 tourniquets will though.
@@renaissancemarinetv3536 Ah okay. How many of those TK4's will fit per pouch?
Grenade pouches work well for a military compass, headlamp and/or a spare batteries bag. When you can find them, the newer LED L flashlights do a pretty good job. Mine is about 1/2 scale size of the older D battery version; LED uses 3 AAA, has the color lenses and weighs 3.9 ozs. Just some food for thought...
This shown up in my feed watches and subbed to it, i like the alice system
I broke one of my harness clips what should I use insted I heard paracord but any replacement that is better
The small pouches are great for a head lamp or compass or a small fire or first aid bandage
I was in the 82nd airborne division from 1990 -1994 we were issued that vest in late 92 or early 93 I use the newer molle 2 type vest as my load out
I run a sick condor chest rig with six AR mags with 62grain green tips four beretta 92 mags a Olight m2t Warrior and big can of mace and a esee model 4 and I all so have my beretta holster on the rig
If you have speedloaders or moon clips for your revolver, perhaps they can fit in the grenade pouches?
Good idea!
TRM,
I'm confused and conflicted about this issue. I'm not even sure what my goals should be about gear choices, especially packs, battle belts, vests, and armor.
I personally seem to be wanting something to do it all and I am having trouble getting past that. I want a huge bug-out backpack AND a get-home-bag AND an assault-pack/battle-belt AND an every-day carry kit. AND I want it all modular. AND I want it all concealed carry and grey-man. (worse, I want to do all that with my present backpacking/hiking gear, LOL). Should I change my goals, or just get over it? Or compromise? Or what?
Presently, I'm using a 24 inch duffle with carrying strap as my get-home bag and planning on throwing that on my (smallish) packframe along with some back-packing gear. That leaves no room for a battle belt or assault pack. So that doesn't really work.
Yet I don't particularly like the molly-gear approach either (which, realistically, seems the best approach but, if so what are the best SPECIFIC choices in that regard?). Would it be better or worse to get a good-but-huge external pack-frame-based bag and just put the other bags in it and jettison the extraneous stuff if a fight seems imminent? (I've got some large military-surplus duffles with shoulder straps).
I'm so confused.
DUMP ALL THAT GEAR. ONLY TAKE WHAT YOU NEED. NOT THE ENTIRE DAMN HOUSE. I WENT THREW THE SAME SHIT WITH MY PEOPLE IN THE ARMY. HOPE THIS HELPS.
And I know the answer will be "it's all mission dependent." But I'm not sure what that will be either.
@@williamstanley324 You do not know because you do not do.
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Good point! I've always been better in theory then practice
Shiloh, Thanks for the encouragement to do it the right way!
Right now as a Civilian, I just have the GI bandolier mag pouches for my ARs and Old Russian mag pouches with messenger bag straps for my AKs. So I'd have one mag in the rifle and 3 to 4 mags in the pouches. The idea is I would just use my everyday carry stuff and then grab my rifle and ammunition if I had to respond to any threat.
I also have two 4 cell Chinese Chest rigs for AK mags as well.
Armor will be the next step for me especially with ANTIFA acting all crazy.
Looks good.. I added something to my supplies recently that I didn't think of before.. ROPE...LOL
I try to keep at least 3 or 4 feet of Japanese silk rope handy.....
@@deangullberry5148.. I have some good twisted rope wrapped around my flashlight. I used it last to hang the light over my last Jeep repair...lol. I keep it on my flashlight for weekend camping trips. We hang our food and waste at night to keep the critters from bumping the cans. What I needed was a good braided rope. Something strong enough to tow but light enough to carry with me. Ya never know when ya gonna have to hang something heavier then food.
I have an insane amount of 550 cord in my butt pack.
I'm just waiting for someone to google Japanese silk rope....
LOL, I bit on that one. I've found that my old silk neckties work perfectly fine.@@deangullberry5148
>stand by to retire an old veteran and welcome a new recruit
let the hazing begin! i'm gonna need a roll of duct tape, a swivel chair and a handle of captain morgan!
Thanks for the share, TRM.
Cool vid nice gear!
Thanks!
Do you have a video on what differenciates the general militia from and a Minute Man? If not can you make one? I'm interested to know the difference.
A minute man is "ready in a minute's notice". In the modern era real minutemen are rare, many claim the title without living up to the responsibility. If you have the financial means to run all over the country, resisting tyranny, and don't need to get time off approved to keep your job, or not have to wordy about how to support 12 kids, and a pregnant wife, you're in a position to be one.
Dean pretty much explained it but it's a good video idea so I'll do a video on it soon. Thanks for the suggestion!
Be similar to volunteer firemen, out the door when the phone rings. Maybe back in 10 or maybe back tomorrow. Gear is staged,
edc,
Stuff by the door
Stuff in the truck. Truck always above half a tank.
@@OKBushcraft Gotcha. I'm going to go out on a limb and guess you're a fellow Okie from your name?
@@ryanjones4917 yes sir.
Near Tulsa
I believe non infantry training school back then was MCT (Marine Combat Training). I was in Marine Infantry from (97 -01) so I went to SOI and Weapons Training. In the fleet we used the LBV.
I would put the LBV against any new chest rig out there. We used the LBV over the flak and without depending on what type mission we were conducting. Kind of the same principle as the TAP (Tactical Assault Panel) system. You can mount the TAP panel to your plate carrier and then remove it to use like a chest rig.
I think the infantry school was ITB (infantry training battalion), the poges did something else and both sides were the the School of Infantry but that was a long time ago.
Very nice! I would be interested in a video on the Ranger roll. Do you have one for that already? How is the new Job going? I have a black BOB and I didn't have anything like your LBV's so I just ended up buying a vAv YAKEDA Tactical Rapid Assault Chest Rig Vest off amazon. Check it out if you get a chance.
The job is very good. I like it a lot and a video on the ranger roll is a good idea.
The grenade pouches are perfect for 10 round magazines, for a little extra ammo in a pinch......Semper Fi
Good update!
Haha well done brother, gone from like 40 years out of date to 30.
Grenade pouches will hold compass, headlamp, mechanic gloves, spandex buff, or fleece military watch cap.
Good points.
Amen brotha to that.
The 40MM Grenadier vest is a perfect ammo carrier for Garand Enblocs. Vest will hold 11 ready to go.
I currently have molle plate carrier with ceramic plates and a few mosin nagant pouches and a l.e.o. belt i plan on upgrading to a a.l.i.c.e. system
Have you tried the "pipehawk" from cold steel? It's right in the middle of the two you have ,not too big not too small. I love it. Keep up the good vids Brother!
I want them all. I'll probably end up with one of those soon.
are you planning on wearing that over your plate carrier?
So I'm finding this on Amazon, but I'm finding it "enhanced" and then "enhanced with large pistol belt and fanny pack". Did your come with the large pistol belt and fanny pack?
The lbv tends to be a stand alone like the H harness without a belt. If it comes with a belt and fanny pack you're getting a similar kit to whats shown.
I saw that exact same one on Amazon reb0254. You're going to want the belt and the butt pack if they're any good (I didn't check them out). The vest needs a belt to attach to at the bottom.
@@TheRevoltingMan Thank you!
I don't wear gloves either. I work at a well known water and sewer pipe company in Newman and they're always on me for not wearing gloves. But muddy gloves r slippery and I can't spin nuts or shovel so I think u should keepnur hands tough in case u lose em u ain't Sol.
Exactly! How often can you just stop everything thing and don or doff your gloves as the situation dictates?
I have a wrap vest, pretty comfortable, but it will not load out like the H...so I guess it's down the the Military Surplus store for me!
I love the surplus store.
Nice. I like that.
Depending on dominate hand one granade pouch can be a compass pouch for lensatic compass. A small snap link to hang gloves because cold hands first thing in the morning are harder to shoot with. The other grenade pouch can hold four MRE toilet papers and some KFC wipes for that part of your 24 hours 😜
Thank you sir.
20 rounders should fit in the grenade pouches, if not a ten rounder will, headlamp is also a good thing in there and so is an Israeli bandage. The superior thing about these as opposed to a chest rig is it is easier to get low in the probe. I like them too. Good choice!
Get a old police baton loop for the tomahawk they are really cheep because the extendable ones come with a way to carry. So the surplus on this is overwhelming.
Great idea and I have one on the way.
I was issued the y harness when i went in the army in 1981. And. Went to national guard in 1988 to 93
In the Canadian Forces we used the “Y” harness in the 1980s. I really hated it because it dug in you shoulders. I think it was from the 1970 or the 1960s.
I do a load wear vest and it can take plates it is from the 1990s. It can take mags and you can fit a radio.
It really hard to find the webbing here in Canada it cost so much..... average price is around 200+ for a cheap harness and it made in China.
Dont forget the tactical shemagh.
Zech, how about plates❓(body armor)❓
Body armor is nice to have but in the modern military they ride into battle. In the militia if you road March 20-30 miles to a battle scene your body armor is probably going to be laying in a ditch somewhere and enroute or your going to be to fatigued to fight.
Edit: I forgot to add that body armor for the militia in my opinion works best in the defense position or base camp area.
I'll second Swamp Fox. The Militia is a light, guerilla force. Speed and stealth are key.
Swamp Fox if you run sappi plates Thats not an issue..great point though 👍
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I am not familiar with those. If they are lightweight then you may be right. Destroy a large if they are pretty lightweight then what is the cost? and yet being lightweight if they are expensive then I am going to assume they are out of reach of the common Man.
We wore flak vests when I was on active duty and we carried them on some pretty long humps. The nice part was that they made a fairly decent pillow.
I have a custom made carrier for the tomahawk. You are welcome to if I had a place to send it to.
Hey hey
Nice upgrade, brother.
Keep your buttpack, and the two canteens. Run a belt ammo pouch on the left side, and you'll have a well distributed 300 rounds.
When I had my LBV I ran an ammo pouch on my right side as well, but it was first aid. It would be called an IFAK now, but I was CLS certified, and kept stuff there for that. Look up airsoft smoke grenades. They actuallywork well, and might fit the grenade pockets. Finally.... Streamlight.com when DoD realized the moonbeams were garbage they went to Streamlight for the update.
Dean Gullberry I've seen them air soft flash bangs aswell as the smoke grenades are they actually any good ?
@@halfcantan1208 I don't know about the flashbangs, but some of the smokes are pretty good.
DEAN I BEG TO DIFFER ABOUT THE FLASH LIGHT I CAN START A FIRE WITH THEM IF I HAD 2. JUST GET THE MINIS. THEY WORK JUST LIKE THE BIG GUYS. PEACE OUT. KEITH HERE
I took the CLS training but never got around to doing the IV sticks so didn't get the certification.
As long ago as it was for both of us, it's irrelevant now. None of what we learned is still used.
Great looking gear RM...it should serve you well 👍it looks like the vest issued to us for our deployment (s) in Iraq. Ive abandoned most of my LBE gear and broke down and purchased a tactile vest, and then I have my plate carrier from Spartan armor that in its self is a LBE. Do you have any body armor? If not I highly recommend Spartan Armors gear.
I believe we need to have a discussion concerning the gun registry being proposed in the state of illionios..we ALL must stand together to fight this. I think we should develop a comms system as well to keep eachother informed and to reinforce eachother once they decide to disarm us and I believe you sir are in position to establish and coordinate this system. Ill help in any way I can..be well sir and thank you
I agree. Reid Henrichs had a very good video on it recently and I may add my own two cents too. I do not have body armor yet but hope to get some at some point.
Guys is the Remington 3inch nine pellet buckshot 00 or000 ? Sorry to bother ye
Welcome t he new work old vet....
Commenting just to raz you a little.... It would be better if you dressed up the loose bits of adjustable strap on the vest. That being said your rig is set up and ready! I need to work on it. Keep on Keepin on!
This will be happening.
I RUN TWO BLOW OUTs A BROTHER MAY NEED IT AND SAME REASON THE AMOUNT OF AMMO MY SET UPS A BIT OVER 92 POUNDS. CAN U SAY WHIPS ME IN SOME SHAPE
i also used the y harness as my issue 782 gear when i was active duty. but i fell in love with the defensor fortis rig that we used when i was with air force security forces. it is based on london bridge trading company rig. you can see it here:
th-cam.com/video/BuJqedMttiI/w-d-xo.html
I'll look in to it.
that trail hawk would be "i think i have both" a better fighting ax. if it came to that :)
I was watching the cRsenal channel awhile back they did a vid about a Montenegro revolver and the militia at the turn of the century you should check it out well I don't by any stretch of the imagination know anywhere near as much as you men about guns or militias but mate it was intresting
I use similar for hiking. But I got away from 1. The bumpack 2. Nato bottle holders.
I use MTP British 58 pattern bottles and pouches. I put them on a molle converters to Alice. Still use a H harness. Simple reason is on hot days less coverage less heat trapped.
Rangeroll. Never use it. I made my own pouch sits on top of water bottle pouches attached to H harness. I can still put a full sized pack on if need be. That pouch has drybag 3 season down bag, 3x3m tarp, cordage. And wet weather gear. Some of that goes in pack If I take one.
Food. Not MRE. Porridge n tuna n rice and dehydrated peas 2oz soy sauce. I can get 5 days in 1 pouch if rice is uncooked. Or 2 if I take Uncle bens rice sachets cooked.
Im over backpacks tbh. I keep it light.as. I can throw a tomohawk between pouch and H harness. A knife between pouches. I carry 4 to 7 waterbottle pouches depends on season. For eg cold weather top (Norgie) fits in on pouch with merino longjohns for sleeping and head torch. Summer, that pouch is off.
British packs ( Bergens) have a 10 to 15 lt " rocket pouch" zip on side pouch. Takes as much real estate as a issue 3lt camelback. It also has a clip on harness. If you sew on a sleeve at back of rocket pouch viola, bladder pocket. That 12lt pouch is my main pach. As I go on consume eat use it ends up on top of me water bottle pouches all but empty.
Those water bottle pouches, use a Nato bottle in them you still got room for a hip flask or a bag of Uncle bens pre cooked rice.
Tbh getting rid of bum pack was the best thing ever. Travel lite freeze a bit at night. But if you go for some civvie gear you can do so much more
cool you can get Wells dirt bike riding gloves cheap at Walmart they work for me
I like the mechanix gloves!!!
How does that kinda rig work with a plate carrier
This predates plate carriers but we used to wear it over our flak jackets so I imagine it would work with plate carriers too.
@@TheRevoltingMan thinking id b ok with a belt i have mags on the front so i have plenty of room but it is heavey Level 3 with side plates but i might change out to a law enforcement type profile instead of military cuz i like the idea of being able to drop my load if need be lighten my weight and b more comfortable....just a thought im a little handicapped n cant run do i load up and move slow or slim down and move a little faster but still cant run ....yur thoughts on that scenario
What a POG
I was an 03.
Stop talking about yourself Robert, it's not all about you.
I run the lv if i doing long rand patrol. For quick reaction i use the y harness
Maybe put a led in that older flashlight if possible.
Semper Fi!
Who are these real minutemen?
How mite I email you to ask some guestions
TheRevoltingMan@outlook.com
I have a spare head net for bugs in one of my grenade pouches.
Lol, I have one in my buttpack.
I really like my light weight Bosnian ARMIJA chest rig for my AR load out. It’s similar to a chicom, but it buckles in the front so it’s super fast to slip on. I have a molle buttpack and blowout kit attached. And then an extra tourniquet and gauze in the grenade pouches. You could also use the grenade pouches for: snacks, gloves, 20 rd AR mags (sometimes you can fit two), smoke, radio, cellphone, folder knife, pistol mags, etc. you can sometimes find these rigs on EBay for $35-40. They were made for the Militias fighting the Serbs in the Bosnian war and are top notch quality. They fit both AR and AK mags.
Here is a video of how they work: th-cam.com/video/CqtU2BeyTu8/w-d-xo.html
Gloves go in the grenade pouches
Ooooh! Good idea!
Hey Revolting Man, where are you located at??
Northeast Georgia.
Oh okay. I'm in Tennessee.
We're not far from some parts of Tennessee.
I'd say you're probably close to Chattanooga or so. I am Southeast TN.
@@jimsmirh2406 Chattanooga is on the opposite of the state from me.
As much as I love ALICE and pre-MOLLE gear in general (I also love MOLLE, btw), I would abandon your kit in favor of a modern plate carrier. You need protection from pistol/rifle rounds, which you have none. Get a modern PALS-webbing adorned plate carrier (and plates, obviously).
Then mix and match your MOLLE pouches as needed. And then use either an ALICE or MOLLE pack to carry your non-fighting gear.
You'll go back to that Y harness lol
IAM OL SCHOOL ILL USE WHAT WAS BATTLEFIELD TESTED IN VIETNAM BY OUR BROTHERS & STYLISH WOUNT GET THE JOB DONE IT JUST GETS URE ASS DEAD.
KEEP THEM COMING BROTHER.
BTW. YOU MIGHT WANT TO PRACTICE WITH THAT HAWK IN CLOSE CORDERS COMBAT. AS FOR ME THEY WON'T GET THAT CLOSE. PEACE OUT.
BLACK DOG.