I love lamp… and I’ve seen about 10 fix in the last 18 months in classes and not a single one has done super well. At least 4-5 have been sent back for hard bolt lift, trigger issues, or inaccuracy. Yeah…. “Only ever seen 2 with issues” is completely false unless they have like 500 CS reps and that person started there yesterday. It’s a hunting rifle niche gun and not a practical precision rifle. I hate the sig cross as a practical rifle and it still shoots better this the fix
That’s where I think people go wrong with both the fix and the cross. It’s specially made for 1 shot on a hunt, the perfect hunting rifle. I say this as a cross owner and have the same issues with the gun. But I know what it’s for, and what it does. So I’m ok with that
UPDATE: It's still shooting 2-4MOA with ELDM and CX even after the barrel replacement. Sup dude, I had a very similar experience to yours. I made a few comments in your last video and ended up sending in my Fix for RMA shortly after (Also a 6.5cm 16"). My rifle was doing roughly 3MOA with ELD-M 140's. Customer service was great like you said. They were very responsive and I got my rifle back in about 4 weeks. They attached a cutout of the target that they tested the new barrel with and it was a weird looking "J" shaped group (like someone drew a J with 5 bullet holes), but it was 0.85" nonetheless. Hoping to test it out in a few weeks with more ELDM and possibly CX. Just trying to stay optimistic at this point because I really like the gun but man, that thing was shooting like my 10.3 AR does with the cheapest range ammo.
I have a q fix in 6.5 with the 22” barrel. It shoots lights out 0.5” moa. I also have a 16” barrel that I’m wanting to use for hunting this fall. I hope my experience with that barrel is better than yours. Thanks for being upfront about everything man you just don’t see that very often I really appreciate it
If it helps at all, I can get 1/2 minute groups consistently from prone or bench rest at 100yds out of my 16in 6.5 fix. I have heard from so many people that they haven't had a good time with accuracy of the fix (especially the .308) so I am extremely grateful that this hasn't been my experience, I even picked mine up second hand with less than 100 rounds on it cause the guy who got it before me didn't like it and put it on consignment for $2100 at my local ffl.
I always love seeing a honest bad review about a Q product because Kevin had a full blown meltdown because something bad was said about one of his products
Just for the sake of details, what suppressor/attachment are you using and did you compare suppressed/unsuppressed groups? I have an older Gemtech can that I was using on a Sig MPX with a tri-lug mount. At 25yds, it would only shoot accurately in one of the three positions. With the other two positions, I got to enjoy a shift of THREE inches!!! Tore the can apart, it was incredibly filthy. I’d acquired it and a couple other pieces in a trade from a dealer who’d been using it on an MP5 for years. Anyway, I cleaned it out, took it back out and no change. I fiddled/farted around with everything I could imagine, no change. Seems to work just fine direct threaded, so I borrowed a different tri-lug mount/host. Same issue. Juuust wondering.
@@possum__puncher Thanks! I’ve got a shiny new Fix in my safe, bought in .308 with an 8.6 barrel. I haven’t shot it yet, I’m a fair weather shooter and right now, in central Florida, it ain’t fair!!! Anyhow, eventually I’ll get around to it, by then my “free” Porq Chop should be in and cleared, and I’ll let you know how it goes, assuming you’re interested. Thanks for the video!
Thank you giving a true video behind this issue. I had an issue with my mini fix I know different rifle but it was very accurate just wouldn’t reliably shoot light primer strikes for days even after the recall. Ammo can be blamed in part but I tried every single type of ammo and bought a shit ton that Q recommended and said would work. Same issue lost out on 2 deer in a year. Customer service was amazing sent the gun out 3 times, but couldn’t trust the rifle, sold it.
@@iamtherealrauschguy this plagues a lot of american gun manufacturing. sometimes i feel like the ar is the only gun the US can manufacture well nowadays
I own two of these and zeroed one for a coworker, each of them have shot three-quarter minute groups with five shots in the groups at 100yd with gold medal match and Hornady match. Seems like it’s a barrel problem I would think 🤷🏻♂️
Are you using a taper adapter for your silencer? Because if you’re not using a silencer made for that tapered barrel you won’t get any reliable accuracy.
Tracks with my personal experience and what I have and haven’t heard about their barrels since the falling out with Bartlein/Tooley. Those original barrels are money and I think you’d have been happy had you had one.
My gun must be one of the Bartlien barrels cause I get 3/4 to 1/2 moa groups consistently out if my 16" 6.5 fix. I got it 2nd hand (with less than 100 rounds through it) for a good price on consignment through my local FFL so I'm not certain when it was originally bought.
Does your buddy who bought it and spin barrels make any that are available to purchase? I've seen some wild groups with my Fix in 308 just going up and down in bullet weight. I have the 6.5 and 8.6 barrels but haven't swapped over to them yet...
@@possum__puncheryo side note - I shot them a message and they ghosted me haha. I’ve got money and an extension! Would love to get a barrel going from them.
The best outcome from this would be Q just changing their barrel supplier. Even if it adds another $200-300 to the price, it’s already a premium product. A light weight 16” with a folder that shoots like a laser would be worth it
@@possum__puncher They were until Kevin pitched a fit and burned his bridge with Bartlein saying they were screwing things up. Bartlein hates him so much I commented on a non-Bartlein post on Facebook (years ago) about how much of a prick Kevin is and Tracy Bartlein himself showed up and gave me a free barrel blank.
I want so much to love this gun, but I hear of so many people having the same issues... Would love to know what it shot and what the difference was in the barrels he put on (length, same twist rate etc).
Got a 16" 6.5 fix a month ago. Took it to the range and put 120 rounds through it with just a red dot waiting on my scope to come in. Got it all put together. Went and bought 6 different quality ammos. Cleaned the barrel super thoroughly. Then took it to the range and fired 10 fouling shots. Let it cool to ambient and started the first 5 shot group. After trying all six ammos i got 6 2" groups. I let the barrel and suppressor cool to ambient between each ammo change. All ammos had a SD of around 10-15 fps out of the rifle. Got frustrated and grabbed my tikka 30-06 out of the truckwith a carbon fiber stock (aka rifle is almost the same weight overall with much more recoil) and shot a 5 shot .75" group off the same set of bags. I have heard that having the short top rail can cause them to group badly. But decided to bring mine home and break it into all the little pieces and reassemble it to tq spec for ever part of the rifle/rails/rings/and scope. We shall see if maybe some unexpected part was not quite tight. But I'm getting the feeling its gonna have to get a non Q barrel and a full top rail to see what happens. Inspected the bore and it looks great, velocities have been recorded for every roumd ive fire through the rifle and are consistent between ammos. But the comment you made "it makes me feel like a bad shooter" really hits home. Although I like the rifle enough to make it work one way or the other.
@possum__puncher very similar experience. Mine would group on average 3 out of 5 in around an inch but there would always be 2 flyers in random places making the average just over a 2" circle. I even had the RSO who is a pretty good shot do a group. His opinion was that it was fun to shoot but ended up with 2" as well. Was thinking of sending mine in till I watched your video. And who knows, maybe I would win the barrel lottery. But I think it will just be easier to buy a precision barrel from someone who only makes barrels if this disassembly reassembly doesn't magically cure my accuracy woes. 🤔 not worth wasting a month of hunting season to save some money when I'm already this deep in between the rifle/optic/ammo/and suppressor.
I had an almost identical experience with a Christensen's MPR. First round was always 2" low and 1" left at 200 yards, second two shots were together and sub-MOA. Probably the only nuance was that you could drop a Trigger Tech Diamond in the MPR. Great video; this information should help everyone (manufacturers and customers).
I had a major lemon from Q in the honey badger configuration. Went back to Q twice for failure to load a round. Last time it came back they replaced the BCG with some weird two piece BCG. Sold that joker
I was struggling with the 140gr stuff. Could clover leaf 2-3 out of 5 but then have 1-2 really open up the group. I’ve had better results with the lighter 120gr ammo. But sadly I don’t think I’ve gotten anything close to .9” groups. Probably my best is just over an inch. I’ll stick with it because it’s still an awesome gun! I would like to see .75” sure. But it’s getting the job done as it is.
Thanks for posting, setting expectations is an important part of good customer service, and while Q is trying to set a high expectation, it seems like they are having trouble delivering, which is something that is more common than most might like to admit. It's entirely possible the shooting environment Q is testing in (I think they're in NH or something) is wildly different than the hot central midwest, texas, or the desert southwest. Conditions matter. There was a particular rifle company I worked for for a while that would completely choke and fail to function reliably as soon as temperatures dropped below freezing, and it was a rifle designed and tested here in the desert southwest. It sounds like the right thing happened here, and it was a happy ending because everyone was happy.
Not saying it’s not the gun, but have you tried swapping optics? I had an experience with a gun I couldn’t get to shoot. Turned out my $3200 optic had crapped the bed. Now getting that scope fixed was a nightmare.
Very similar experience to you. In my experience, it is a 2-3 MOA gun with match ammo. Your comment that "this gun makes me feel like a bad shooter" is exactly how I feel whenever shooting for groups with it.
Hey brother - I’ve had my Fix for 5 years and have shot out the OG Bart barrel on it. +/- 2700 rounds through kt. Love the thing. I have a few proof barrels for it and i currently have a steel/med Palma on it that loves. - super curious who your buddy works for and how he fit the barrels? - seen some cool things people come up with for them! Thanks!
@@possum__puncher appreciate that. Apparently taking out the jam nut and fitting the headspace, per usual, makes for an awesome setup. Just have to find an extension.
Dam my bone stock Bergara B14 consistently shoots 3/4” groups with my hand loads. I was seriously considering getting the Q fix. Now I’m thinking I better do some more research. From what I’m reading in the comments section. Q was having Bartlein make the original barrels for this rifle. Then there was a falling out between Q and Bartlein. In short it would be a big gamble on my part to drop the coin on the fix. Get a bad one and have to spend even more money on it to have the proper barrel put in it. Idk it seems like in your case you paid for the unique action. It’s just a lot of money to spend and potentially get a dud barrel. Crap I’m happy you posted this video and I’m mad you posted this video. I’m probably not gonna plunk down the money on the fix after watching this video.
I liked this rifle so much I tried it twice, haha. Tried it with a Proof barrel even. I sold both of them. My conclusion: it is technically capable of accuracy, the problem is the stock. It is so skinny that it is difficult to use consistently. It looks and feels cool at the counter, but trust me it is really problematic when shooting. Also this rifle has a weird recoil impulse for some reason. In the end, I think the ergos make the Fix impossibly difficult to consistently shoot well. I would love to try one with a Magpul PRS stock or somethin just to see what its like. But for me, I'll stick to more traditional bolt guns.
@@shrubjr893 the stock isn’t my favorite to shoot off of. I did like the folding mechanism though but yeah at the end of the day the gun does what it does. And it seems like for many, it just didn’t work out.
@@GideonHawk-j8i Like I said above, it was more of an ergonomic problem than a mechanical one with the rifle. The Proof was definitely nicer than the stock barrel! But the rifle itself is just very difficult to shoot well. Its not a weight thing like so many are quick to point out. I shoot traditionally shaped sub 6lb hunting rifles just fine. It's something to do with the shape of the Fix, and I think it boils down to the shape of the butt-stock. I'm sure KB would be quick to say I can't shoot, but I get along with my traditional rifles just fine.
I wish you had shot some video of you testing the gun. I see people shooting guns for testing, and I see the bipod pouncing around on the bench from place to place to place. And they are measuring for accuracy. Did you shoot with a sled? Did you have a squeeze bag? Did you load the bipod? Were you shooting under the sun? We will never know cause you did not film it..
@@JOESRQFLUSA solid point, watch the last q video or check any of the PRS content, I consistently shoot my setups sub 1/2 or some 3/8 and 1/4. Because this gun sucked so hard we bought a case of their preferred ammo. Used a few PRS pros, and benchrest and f-class guy. The gun sucked through several muzzle devices and optic switches.
If you get a fix it should be in 300 blk or 8.6 blk or 223/556 cause thats what they were built around you can buy or build a gun in 6.5 and 308 that cost a 1/3 of the price of the fix the fix is a boutique gun for boutique rounds and special purposes
@@possum__puncher appreciate the truth. A lot of people would’ve grabbed the free barrel, put it as a side note in their description which no one ever reads, got free shit from them and then carried on!!! Earned a sub for this video brother.
I think Q makes neat stuff that is interesting and reaches a broad appeal. I think Q’s marketing is clever and not deceptive and reaches a customer base beyond hardcore prs shooters. It is good to hear that their customer service is diligent and prompt and willing to go all the way to fix problems. However, what does make me think twice about getting a Fix, especially when Q is offering can promos, is KB’s online presence. He reminds me a lot of how John Willis of SOE Gear acts online. It’s annoying and at times seems petty to the point of vindictiveness and wholly unnecessary when the product should speak for itself.
@@possum__puncher it’s one thing if Q products were objectively better than everyone else’s. You could make an argument that some of the things they do are better, but not by much. Also take a look the new muzzle device Q launched and why it was launched. Some of the things said in that launch video are wholly unnecessary. Q is trying to build an ecosystem of products and that’s laudable, but the way they, KB especially, take criticism gives me pause. And the wild part is that I still want and will probably buy a Mini Fix some time in the near future just bc it’s neat, but I’m realistic to believe it’s not a precision shooter.
@@BBSPV i think if you go with the mini-fix with the proof in 22arc or 6arc from tag. They probably shoot really well. I think a 6arc in a lighter rig could be rad.
❤❤Thanks for your honesty ,knowing that they went as far as offering you a full refund makes me happy enough that i would still buy one and if it came to be a lemon and they couldn't squeeze the accuracy out of it to keep me happy ,,well nice to know they will refund you as im sure there are many companies out there that wouldn't and they would just say "tough shit you fuuked it up so deal with it "or not even respond ,,,,,so yeah id still buy a Q ,,i would only buy a 6.8 boombox or maybe a honeybadger /sugarweasel ,,,6.5 creed id buy Tikka or Accuracy International .i totally liked all the Cussing you did and we all need to Cuss a shitton more !!
See I was thinking the same way as you were about them giving him a full refund. BUT would Q do that for everyone including some blue collar guy like myself that doesn’t have a following on TH-cam??? Part of me thinks no i think they would treat me like the working class stiff that I am.
I had a bergara rifle that I was very frustrated with a 6 moa shooting. Seemed the barrel was bending upwards with each shot, Tried multiple people and 2 different scopes, all did the same thing While it was difficult to get them to take it, bergara did rebarre it, and while they claimed in was .5 moa gun now, the ammo I have used is atleast consistently 1.5 or under with 10 rd groups, I’d say some is me, some is larger sample sizes which is the real way to judge a gun, but I’m happy with it now and that was a 900 dollar gun The Q that is some trash. I get the names the fix and the trash panda now
I picked a Christensen arms mpr with a SS barrel instead of carbon In 6.5 creedmore over the fix. I didn’t like the butt pad size and feel when I shouldered it. It was very thin in certain areas that made it feel weird to me. The bolt felt very mechanical too. not smooth like you would expect.
I had the same issue with my 6.5 and was really thinking it was me. I ended up selling it. And recently picked up a new one in 308 so we shall see how this one groups.
Next try should be the MPA production hunter rifle. $1000 less and a bad ass setup. Sounds like they had great CS but this rifle in particular didn't deliver.
My 308 was more accurate than the 6.5. Could hardly zero the 6.5. Thought about keeping and throwing a proof in it until I remembered I shouldn’t have to for what it costs.
I see the Fix as a hunting rifle and not a precision rifle. I haven’t had issues with mine in .308. Shoots sub MOA for me. Don’t think I’ve ever shot better than .75 though. Feel like for a precision rifle it needs to be less than .5 consistently.
Based on costs, this is simply UNSAT… I own a Honey Badger and a Thunder Chicken and based on that platform I’m not expecting sub MOA. And it looks cool too… lol
14:30 Yep. I got a 24" CTR stainless in 6.5 Creedmoor a couple years ago. It is by far the most accurate rifle I've ever owned. It averages < 0.5 MOA for 5-shot groups with just about every bullet I've tried in it. The fact you never hear about them is insane IMHO. You could basically buy 3 CTRs for the price of this gun and the CTR shoots groups ~1/3 the size of what this Q-fix was shooting.
@@Way2Evl I’m a big proponent of tuners I have the ec and tmb and chad. This gun more specifically the barrel didn’t shoot. When changed by the next owner to aftermarket barrels it did great. But for 3200 it had better shoot from the factory.
@@possum__puncher I do agree bro. I thought even 1 moa was shite for such a pricey tool. Would have been cool though to see what a tuner would have done for it.
I got mine when they offered the Fix in 22 inch Bartlein or Proof CF stock. My bartlein 22 inch gun shoots as advertised and better with handholds but that's crazy.. 3200 bucks for a chat session lol I wonder who is manufacturing their barrels now.
Im being told it’s green mountain. 😂 I could be wrong but that would mean they switched from a $500 dollar barrel to a $80 barrel and didn’t lower the price to my knowledge😂
I am hearing and seeing this a lot for this gun... I think it may... MAY be that it is too light. but if that is the case- then they should not make it so light.. oh well..
I wish you actually showed us the groups. Did you try multiple optics to rule that out? I’m not a q fan at all and would never own one but there wasn’t any actual evidence of the testing done and I think that’s a little unfair. They also offered to re barrel and shoot groups to send you and you declined. I wonder what those groups would have been
I have the groups from the last video and I have the footage from this one I’ll make a reel with. We switched optics multiple times. 2 arkens, nightforce and mk5hd. If you look at the last video you can see what we did testing wise. We did send it to be rebarreled and it came back not shooting that’s this whole video. I had a problem, I gave it to them to fix and they didn’t fix it. And based on the comments it looks like I’m not alone.
I have a 16” 308 cross and see these same issues. But I’m ok with that because I know what the gun does, what it was made for, and what I want to use it for. I’m thinking about rebarreling to a proof research stainless 6mm creedmoor tho
Right on, For me I won’t keep a gun that I won’t shoot. And for what that Q costs it should be much better. But I hope you rebarrel your cross and learn to love it!
@@possum__puncher did you ever try any handloads for it? I know that shouldn’t be a necessity but I’ve heard you can get both fix and cross to shoot lights out by hand loading
It sounded like a barrel problem, not an actual platform problem. You said the friend you traded it to put new barrels on it and it shot, so it seems as just a bad barrel you received.
@@NightfallArmament 2 bad barrels. The original and replaced, it’s a 3400 dollar gun that they used with an 80 dollar green mountain barrel. My friend made it shot because he’s a barrel manufacturer. They make good barrels.
@@possum__puncher I agree with you on bad barrels and I know it sucks when you pay a higher price for something and it doesn’t do what you want it to. Your friend put a higher end barrel on it and it groups well, so it’s not a platform issue, it is a bad barrel issue from Q so I wouldn’t say the Fix is bad, the barrels used as of lately (I’m assuming you purchased recently) need reassessment. I bought mine in 308 shortly after the fix was released years ago and it groups well, maybe they changed barrel manufacturers. My opinion they should sell the 6.5cr with proof barrels to begin with.
I did, it wasn’t fixed. So it’s gone. IMO if you clearly state your legitimate issues with something and do the diligence to send it in for RMA, it should come back fixed. I went the route I did to show the CS side (which was great). But the performance wasn’t there.
@@possum__puncher No I meant I would have taken the refund. This comment was made right before you talked about your trade but right after you talked about telling them the gun still sucks. The first comment was made right after your boy said that the rifle still sucks.
Make sure you show those wild groupings. Only verbal claims don't hold a lot of weight. This being the first video I have watched on this channel I want to know what your testing was and that you tried with varying optics and with/without suppressors.
Pretty, expensive guns… that dude was arguing with me too on some other video about the hb. Quoting “balanced bolt catch” and how that’s better for full auto. I didn’t know that was a thing for semi’s… I dunno. I get what they did. New name, well letter. But it’s a flashy brand. That’s their deal. Man when 4-500$ rigs group better than 34-3500$ ones… meh.
I got 1700 rounds of 6gt in my mpa barrel. Mike sexton and I both about .1 groups 5 shots after all year of match and load development and it shoots any kind of bullet weight velocity I can honestly say I love MPA for rifles. Q just hasn’t impressed me. Even though it’s lightweight and blah blah blah. 3200 dollars compared to my Christensen MPR in 300 win mag I haven’t had a proboem yet with that either. I look at Q like super car owners pay 1 million for a car to get gapped by a Honda at t2k
I dont know. It seems like you are expecting a field rifle to be a bench rifle. Never in my life have I ever seen or heard about anyone showing up to a PRS or FClass match with a Q Fix. Even Q told you the best it would do was an inch, why would you expect better than that? I dont see what the issue is here other than you think its too expensive.
@@L0NGRNGE lol no I don’t expect a 16” 6.5 to be bench or f-class but it should should at least as good as guns that cost 1/2 as much. They didn’t say what their accuracy standard exactly was, and I imagine don’t on purpose, but they said they shipped me a barrel that was in that standard, when I expressed what it was doing they tried to buy it back or replace it again. So clearly it wasn’t in standard. Expensive is fine. Just be worth it lol
@@possum__puncher I mean I get what you are saying, but the cost part is a whole other conversation. Performance wise, it's an inch gun. Just like every other factory gun out there. They sent you the gun back shooting an inch so seems to me that's what they define as good. To me, and sounds like you too, an inch won't cut it. Thus a Q fix should have been avoided in the first place. It's a factory field rifle w/nice fit and finish so the price is elevated. I dont think you will find a half-inch and certainly not a quarter inch gun for less than $5K. I heard you say you have some factory guns that print .25" all day, and I just dont believe that. Your buddy shooting x47 may very well have one, but he aint shooting factory ammo and its probably a custom rifle (I dont know anyone who chambers 6x47 in a factory gun and zero people make ammo for it). 6x47 is what I shoot, and it will print dots, not blobs, all day, but it is a $12K gun all-in.
Probably the most astute comment on here, although if I’m being honest I can see both sides of the argument. Ultimately they could not get the stated accuracy from the gun and for its price it should be able to at least do that, however your probably right @L0NGRNGE, even that would not been sufficient. I think the cost/result was just never going to be there and I think it worked out best for both parties.
@@possum__puncher I absolutely agree, it should shoot an inch. Any sort of serious offering these days should shoot an inch with factory match ammo regardless of cost.
@@Woodwerks I’ll give you a hint. I’ve done several videos with it… it’s about 1/2 with most high end match ammo but with hand loads 🤌🏼 but I am gonna do a video soon with current match setups and how they group and why!
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I love lamp… and I’ve seen about 10 fix in the last 18 months in classes and not a single one has done super well. At least 4-5 have been sent back for hard bolt lift, trigger issues, or inaccuracy. Yeah…. “Only ever seen 2 with issues” is completely false unless they have like 500 CS reps and that person started there yesterday. It’s a hunting rifle niche gun and not a practical precision rifle. I hate the sig cross as a practical rifle and it still shoots better this the fix
I was scrolling just looking for your comment. Knew you’d be here spitting the truth.
The Bear has spoken. All other opinions don't matter.
That’s where I think people go wrong with both the fix and the cross. It’s specially made for 1 shot on a hunt, the perfect hunting rifle. I say this as a cross owner and have the same issues with the gun. But I know what it’s for, and what it does. So I’m ok with that
The man has spoken I’m getting a sig cross🤙🏼🤙🏼
Redditors punching air right now. Big difference between a dedicated hunting rig and a PRS rifle
UPDATE: It's still shooting 2-4MOA with ELDM and CX even after the barrel replacement.
Sup dude, I had a very similar experience to yours. I made a few comments in your last video and ended up sending in my Fix for RMA shortly after (Also a 6.5cm 16"). My rifle was doing roughly 3MOA with ELD-M 140's. Customer service was great like you said. They were very responsive and I got my rifle back in about 4 weeks. They attached a cutout of the target that they tested the new barrel with and it was a weird looking "J" shaped group (like someone drew a J with 5 bullet holes), but it was 0.85" nonetheless. Hoping to test it out in a few weeks with more ELDM and possibly CX. Just trying to stay optimistic at this point because I really like the gun but man, that thing was shooting like my 10.3 AR does with the cheapest range ammo.
I have a q fix in 6.5 with the 22” barrel. It shoots lights out 0.5” moa. I also have a 16” barrel that I’m wanting to use for hunting this fall. I hope my experience with that barrel is better than yours. Thanks for being upfront about everything man you just don’t see that very often I really appreciate it
@@adamfletcher5350 hell yeah I appreciate it man! I’m glad that 22” is punching for you! Dent primers bro!
If it helps at all, I can get 1/2 minute groups consistently from prone or bench rest at 100yds out of my 16in 6.5 fix. I have heard from so many people that they haven't had a good time with accuracy of the fix (especially the .308) so I am extremely grateful that this hasn't been my experience, I even picked mine up second hand with less than 100 rounds on it cause the guy who got it before me didn't like it and put it on consignment for $2100 at my local ffl.
I always love seeing a honest bad review about a Q product because Kevin had a full blown meltdown because something bad was said about one of his products
@@tylerk158 I’m just here to share what happened to my fix.
its called the fix for a reason, they're still tryna fix it 🥁
Actually hilarious 😂
Whoa body slam straight to Kevin's dumb face..... Kevin just doesn't understand
“This rifle has cool features, in my experience accuracy is not one of them” ooof
@@Runningmancs I mean… yes
Ouch...I know plenty of folks Dunkin on the Sig Cross too but my 16in 308 shoots great with 150 gr Rem Core Lokt. No experience with any Q products
Truer words have never been spoken
most of the time it is the shooter that is not accurate.....
Just for the sake of details, what suppressor/attachment are you using and did you compare suppressed/unsuppressed groups? I have an older Gemtech can that I was using on a Sig MPX with a tri-lug mount. At 25yds, it would only shoot accurately in one of the three positions. With the other two positions, I got to enjoy a shift of THREE inches!!! Tore the can apart, it was incredibly filthy. I’d acquired it and a couple other pieces in a trade from a dealer who’d been using it on an MP5 for years. Anyway, I cleaned it out, took it back out and no change. I fiddled/farted around with everything I could imagine, no change. Seems to work just fine direct threaded, so I borrowed a different tri-lug mount/host. Same issue. Juuust wondering.
@@alanjohnson1204 I used the cherry bomb, I used the griffin taper, and others. With and without the taper adapter.
@@possum__puncher Thanks! I’ve got a shiny new Fix in my safe, bought in .308 with an 8.6 barrel. I haven’t shot it yet, I’m a fair weather shooter and right now, in central Florida, it ain’t fair!!! Anyhow, eventually I’ll get around to it, by then my “free” Porq Chop should be in and cleared, and I’ll let you know how it goes, assuming you’re interested. Thanks for the video!
@@alanjohnson1204 hell yeah! I’d love to know how it goes, I hope it hammers for you!!
Thank you giving a true video behind this issue. I had an issue with my mini fix I know different rifle but it was very accurate just wouldn’t reliably shoot light primer strikes for days even after the recall. Ammo can be blamed in part but I tried every single type of ammo and bought a shit ton that Q recommended and said would work. Same issue lost out on 2 deer in a year. Customer service was amazing sent the gun out 3 times, but couldn’t trust the rifle, sold it.
Prepare yourself for Kevin to shit talk you and your family in the comments lol
😂😂😂
@@iamtherealrauschguy from the top rope!!
@@iamtherealrauschguy this plagues a lot of american gun manufacturing. sometimes i feel like the ar is the only gun the US can manufacture well nowadays
Your honesty and transparency is appreciated. We need more of this.
P.S. filming the intro/outro in black and white… I see you 😂
@@_Lebowski_ I have no idea what you are talking about 👀
I own two of these and zeroed one for a coworker, each of them have shot three-quarter minute groups with five shots in the groups at 100yd with gold medal match and Hornady match. Seems like it’s a barrel problem I would think 🤷🏻♂️
Subscribed. Glad to see an honest take on TH-cam for a change.
I appreciate you bro!
So once the new owner changed barrels it shot fine? Were they proof barrels or is another aftermarket company also making barrels for Fixes now?
@@GideonHawk-j8i he switched 2 customs barrels and re-purposed sig cross 308 barrel.
what is the orange carbon fiber gun in the back ground that thing looks sick
@@DanielE-kc5xt Seekins ph2-NRL it is very sick indeed
Q-sert : Betamax :: M-Lok : VHS
Sell it. You can build one that shoots better for less.
@@blaqkpanda oh it’s Gone check out the ending
@@possum__puncher yeah, i saw that at the end and nearly edited my comment. I think that all worked out for the best.
Are you using a taper adapter for your silencer? Because if you’re not using a silencer made for that tapered barrel you won’t get any reliable accuracy.
@@TonySimmons-s2d I tried it with and without. Their muzzle device then others. Brakes and suppressors. I really wanted it to succeed
Tracks with my personal experience and what I have and haven’t heard about their barrels since the falling out with Bartlein/Tooley. Those original barrels are money and I think you’d have been happy had you had one.
I’d agree bartlein makes solid ass barrels
My gun must be one of the Bartlien barrels cause I get 3/4 to 1/2 moa groups consistently out if my 16" 6.5 fix. I got it 2nd hand (with less than 100 rounds through it) for a good price on consignment through my local FFL so I'm not certain when it was originally bought.
Does your buddy who bought it and spin barrels make any that are available to purchase? I've seen some wild groups with my Fix in 308 just going up and down in bullet weight. I have the 6.5 and 8.6 barrels but haven't swapped over to them yet...
@@benmarov6476 I will ask and comment back tomorrow. I know he has the blanks but Ill have to check in the extensions
@@possum__puncheryo side note - I shot them a message and they ghosted me haha. I’ve got money and an extension! Would love to get a barrel going from them.
@@klajoye481 hmmm, I’ll check in and see what the word is. Shoot them an instagram dm
@@possum__puncher the outlier plug 😂🤌🏼 thanks man.
@@possum__puncher Hey I realized I never followed up to see if you head anything back! Thanks!
The best outcome from this would be Q just changing their barrel supplier. Even if it adds another $200-300 to the price, it’s already a premium product. A light weight 16” with a folder that shoots like a laser would be worth it
@@Mrtjw yeah, I heard the old bartlein barrels were solid af.
@@possum__puncher They were until Kevin pitched a fit and burned his bridge with Bartlein saying they were screwing things up. Bartlein hates him so much I commented on a non-Bartlein post on Facebook (years ago) about how much of a prick Kevin is and Tracy Bartlein himself showed up and gave me a free barrel blank.
I want so much to love this gun, but I hear of so many people having the same issues... Would love to know what it shot and what the difference was in the barrels he put on (length, same twist rate etc).
Kevin is going to burn your house down after this
@@nateshoots no I just painted!!
100%😂
Got a 16" 6.5 fix a month ago. Took it to the range and put 120 rounds through it with just a red dot waiting on my scope to come in. Got it all put together. Went and bought 6 different quality ammos. Cleaned the barrel super thoroughly. Then took it to the range and fired 10 fouling shots. Let it cool to ambient and started the first 5 shot group. After trying all six ammos i got 6 2" groups. I let the barrel and suppressor cool to ambient between each ammo change. All ammos had a SD of around 10-15 fps out of the rifle. Got frustrated and grabbed my tikka 30-06 out of the truckwith a carbon fiber stock (aka rifle is almost the same weight overall with much more recoil) and shot a 5 shot .75" group off the same set of bags.
I have heard that having the short top rail can cause them to group badly. But decided to bring mine home and break it into all the little pieces and reassemble it to tq spec for ever part of the rifle/rails/rings/and scope. We shall see if maybe some unexpected part was not quite tight. But I'm getting the feeling its gonna have to get a non Q barrel and a full top rail to see what happens.
Inspected the bore and it looks great, velocities have been recorded for every roumd ive fire through the rifle and are consistent between ammos. But the comment you made "it makes me feel like a bad shooter" really hits home. Although I like the rifle enough to make it work one way or the other.
@@1bobharvey it seems like we are not alone in our experiences
@possum__puncher very similar experience. Mine would group on average 3 out of 5 in around an inch but there would always be 2 flyers in random places making the average just over a 2" circle. I even had the RSO who is a pretty good shot do a group. His opinion was that it was fun to shoot but ended up with 2" as well.
Was thinking of sending mine in till I watched your video. And who knows, maybe I would win the barrel lottery. But I think it will just be easier to buy a precision barrel from someone who only makes barrels if this disassembly reassembly doesn't magically cure my accuracy woes. 🤔 not worth wasting a month of hunting season to save some money when I'm already this deep in between the rifle/optic/ammo/and suppressor.
I had an almost identical experience with a Christensen's MPR. First round was always 2" low and 1" left at 200 yards, second two shots were together and sub-MOA. Probably the only nuance was that you could drop a Trigger Tech Diamond in the MPR. Great video; this information should help everyone (manufacturers and customers).
@@NHBackcountryGuide thank you sir!
I had a major lemon from Q in the honey badger configuration. Went back to Q twice for failure to load a round. Last time it came back they replaced the BCG with some weird two piece BCG. Sold that joker
@@hazmat3c unfortunately this isn’t all that surprising
I was struggling with the 140gr stuff. Could clover leaf 2-3 out of 5 but then have 1-2 really open up the group. I’ve had better results with the lighter 120gr ammo. But sadly I don’t think I’ve gotten anything close to .9” groups. Probably my best is just over an inch. I’ll stick with it because it’s still an awesome gun! I would like to see .75” sure. But it’s getting the job done as it is.
Thanks for posting, setting expectations is an important part of good customer service, and while Q is trying to set a high expectation, it seems like they are having trouble delivering, which is something that is more common than most might like to admit. It's entirely possible the shooting environment Q is testing in (I think they're in NH or something) is wildly different than the hot central midwest, texas, or the desert southwest. Conditions matter. There was a particular rifle company I worked for for a while that would completely choke and fail to function reliably as soon as temperatures dropped below freezing, and it was a rifle designed and tested here in the desert southwest.
It sounds like the right thing happened here, and it was a happy ending because everyone was happy.
Not saying it’s not the gun, but have you tried swapping optics?
I had an experience with a gun I couldn’t get to shoot. Turned out my $3200 optic had crapped the bed. Now getting that scope fixed was a nightmare.
@@thepracticalrifleman yes sir tried two different Arlen’s, a nightforce, and a mk5hd
@@possum__puncher 👍🏻
Very similar experience to you. In my experience, it is a 2-3 MOA gun with match ammo. Your comment that "this gun makes me feel like a bad shooter" is exactly how I feel whenever shooting for groups with it.
Yeah that’s the best way I could explain it. 😂
You are a bad shooter and the Fix makes you better at being a bad shooter - Kevin
Hey brother - I’ve had my Fix for 5 years and have shot out the OG Bart barrel on it. +/- 2700 rounds through kt. Love the thing. I have a few proof barrels for it and i currently have a steel/med Palma on it that loves. - super curious who your buddy works for and how he fit the barrels? - seen some cool things people come up with for them! Thanks!
@@klajoye481 he’s at outlier now, 5 r button rifle. New company but the barrels shoot.
@@possum__puncher appreciate that. Apparently taking out the jam nut and fitting the headspace, per usual, makes for an awesome setup. Just have to find an extension.
@@klajoye481 give em a call!
Tell me the cheaper rifles with the outstanding MAO.
@@AngelRivera-wp9bg you mean cheaper rifles that shoot better than a MOA? Tikka, Seekins hit and nrl,
Mpa pmr, ga precision production, aero solus.
Dam my bone stock Bergara B14 consistently shoots 3/4” groups with my hand loads. I was seriously considering getting the Q fix. Now I’m thinking I better do some more research. From what I’m reading in the comments section. Q was having Bartlein make the original barrels for this rifle. Then there was a falling out between Q and Bartlein. In short it would be a big gamble on my part to drop the coin on the fix. Get a bad one and have to spend even more money on it to have the proper barrel put in it. Idk it seems like in your case you paid for the unique action. It’s just a lot of money to spend and potentially get a dud barrel. Crap I’m happy you posted this video and I’m mad you posted this video. I’m probably not gonna plunk down the money on the fix after watching this video.
@@Johnny-jr2lq i agree with everything you said
I know arken makes good scopes for the money but are you sure you didn’t get a $300 lemon scope ?
@@Michaeldpress14 great question! I am. I shot it with my nightforce and Leupolds as well.
I liked this rifle so much I tried it twice, haha. Tried it with a Proof barrel even. I sold both of them. My conclusion: it is technically capable of accuracy, the problem is the stock. It is so skinny that it is difficult to use consistently. It looks and feels cool at the counter, but trust me it is really problematic when shooting. Also this rifle has a weird recoil impulse for some reason. In the end, I think the ergos make the Fix impossibly difficult to consistently shoot well. I would love to try one with a Magpul PRS stock or somethin just to see what its like. But for me, I'll stick to more traditional bolt guns.
@@shrubjr893 the stock isn’t my favorite to shoot off of. I did like the folding mechanism though but yeah at the end of the day the gun does what it does. And it seems like for many, it just didn’t work out.
So the accuracy didn’t improve even with the proof installed?
@@GideonHawk-j8i Like I said above, it was more of an ergonomic problem than a mechanical one with the rifle. The Proof was definitely nicer than the stock barrel! But the rifle itself is just very difficult to shoot well. Its not a weight thing like so many are quick to point out. I shoot traditionally shaped sub 6lb hunting rifles just fine. It's something to do with the shape of the Fix, and I think it boils down to the shape of the butt-stock. I'm sure KB would be quick to say I can't shoot, but I get along with my traditional rifles just fine.
I wish you had shot some video of you testing the gun. I see people shooting guns for testing, and I see the bipod pouncing around on the bench from place to place to place. And they are measuring for accuracy. Did you shoot with a sled? Did you have a squeeze bag? Did you load the bipod? Were you shooting under the sun? We will never know cause you did not film it..
@@JOESRQFLUSA solid point, watch the last q video or check any of the PRS content, I consistently shoot my setups sub 1/2 or some 3/8 and 1/4. Because this gun sucked so hard we bought a case of their preferred ammo. Used a few PRS pros, and benchrest and f-class guy. The gun sucked through several muzzle devices and optic switches.
If you get a fix it should be in 300 blk or 8.6 blk or 223/556 cause thats what they were built around you can buy or build a gun in 6.5 and 308 that cost a 1/3 of the price of the fix the fix is a boutique gun for boutique rounds and special purposes
Savagely honest, it’s how it all should be!!!! Love the green light from the mic going through your beard.
Thank you bro, hahaha I didn’t notice it until I was editing
@@possum__puncher appreciate the truth. A lot of people would’ve grabbed the free barrel, put it as a side note in their description which no one ever reads, got free shit from them and then carried on!!! Earned a sub for this video brother.
@@cerebralfirearms hell yeah thank you bro!!
I think Q makes neat stuff that is interesting and reaches a broad appeal. I think Q’s marketing is clever and not deceptive and reaches a customer base beyond hardcore prs shooters. It is good to hear that their customer service is diligent and prompt and willing to go all the way to fix problems.
However, what does make me think twice about getting a Fix, especially when Q is offering can promos, is KB’s online presence. He reminds me a lot of how John Willis of SOE Gear acts online. It’s annoying and at times seems petty to the point of vindictiveness and wholly unnecessary when the product should speak for itself.
That was well thought out.
@@possum__puncher it’s one thing if Q products were objectively better than everyone else’s. You could make an argument that some of the things they do are better, but not by much. Also take a look the new muzzle device Q launched and why it was launched. Some of the things said in that launch video are wholly unnecessary. Q is trying to build an ecosystem of products and that’s laudable, but the way they, KB especially, take criticism gives me pause.
And the wild part is that I still want and will probably buy a Mini Fix some time in the near future just bc it’s neat, but I’m realistic to believe it’s not a precision shooter.
@@BBSPV i think if you go with the mini-fix with the proof in 22arc or 6arc from tag. They probably shoot really well. I think a 6arc in a lighter rig could be rad.
Think they way to go if you like the Fix aesthetics, is to just get the chassis and then put the barrel and action of choice
@@sleipnirmarine1830 I believe that’s called the q side chick, and I don’t think they even make it anymore.
Ballsy and definitely appreciated getting actual experience, both on accuracy and customer service.
I appreciate it man. Just sharing my experience
❤❤Thanks for your honesty ,knowing that they went as far as offering you a full refund makes me happy enough that i would still buy one and if it came to be a lemon and they couldn't squeeze the accuracy out of it to keep me happy ,,well nice to know they will refund you as im sure there are many companies out there that wouldn't and they would just say "tough shit you fuuked it up so deal with it "or not even respond ,,,,,so yeah id still buy a Q ,,i would only buy a 6.8 boombox or maybe a honeybadger /sugarweasel ,,,6.5 creed id buy Tikka or Accuracy International .i totally liked all the Cussing you did and we all need to Cuss a shitton more !!
@@damienthomas6655 thank you sir, I will cuss more!
@@possum__puncher Awesome ,,your a fuukin Legend Mate !!
@@damienthomas6655 🤣 appreciate you!
See I was thinking the same way as you were about them giving him a full refund. BUT would Q do that for everyone including some blue collar guy like myself that doesn’t have a following on TH-cam??? Part of me thinks no i think they would treat me like the working class stiff that I am.
@@Johnny-jr2lq maybe, but to be totally transparent I dont have a big following and I really felt like the QC was legit.
I had a bergara rifle that I was very frustrated with a 6 moa shooting. Seemed the barrel was bending upwards with each shot,
Tried multiple people and 2 different scopes, all did the same thing
While it was difficult to get them to take it, bergara did rebarre it, and while they claimed in was .5 moa gun now, the ammo I have used is atleast consistently 1.5 or under with 10 rd groups, I’d say some is me, some is larger sample sizes which is the real way to judge a gun, but I’m happy with it now and that was a 900 dollar gun
The Q that is some trash. I get the names the fix and the trash panda now
Great video and thanks for being honest, I just bought one, hope I don't have the same issues 🤦♂️
This Kevin loves you! And would love to take this off ur hands 😂🔥
@@kevinperez919 😂🤣😂 sorry kevin, it’s gone!
Well i was about to pull the trigger on a Q but you are making me rethink things a bit.
New to the channel, what are the rifles on the wall?
@@stibs1578 hell yeah, thanks for swinging by, Seekins NRL in 6.5 and IWI spr
I had the same issue. Did you try another optic
I did, Arken, Leupold, nightforce. It wasn’t the optic. Would’ve been an easy fix if it was though!
Astonishing how crappy this rifle is ... tofu barrel? Would have been interesting to see if a barrel-tuner could have improved things
Applied Ballistics top gun theory estimates a rifle’s inherent precision based on the weight of the system and the recoil it produces.
They are currently working with reptilica to create aluminum accessories and some plastic accessories such as foregrips, hand stops, and other items
I picked a Christensen arms mpr with a SS barrel instead of carbon In 6.5 creedmore over the fix. I didn’t like the butt pad size and feel when I shouldered it. It was very thin in certain areas that made it feel weird to me. The bolt felt very mechanical too. not smooth like you would expect.
Good luck with that MPR. Seen and had more problems with them than any fix rifles
I had the same issue with my 6.5 and was really thinking it was me. I ended up selling it. And recently picked up a new one in 308 so we shall see how this one groups.
@@guntalk90 let me know!
I'm a big Q fan and I'm currently battling with the same thing. I have a 8.6 Fix. 1.5-2.5 MOA
@@loganwalters9033 sucks to say but it seems to be a pattern based on the comments
Dude that sucks ! I have the Q Sugar Weasel SD and f#$&ing love it ! I’m on the fence about buying the Q fix .
I emailed customer service weeks ago with a genuine question about their silencers and never heard from them.
Is it your can? Maybe they shoot 3 round groups? Definitely don't rebarrel.
@@ExpertOpinions805 I tried with more than 1 can and muzzle brakes. But yeah it’s gone now.
@@possum__puncher Good shit man.
You wearing those DDC underwear we sent ?!?? 😂
@@DILIGENTDEFENSECO I haven’t took em off yet 😂🤣
Rifle would have been awesome with a screw on barrel.. the way they did it, its no more accurate than an AR-15 with 10/22 style barrel connection.
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I got a good laugh out of this video, good shit guys
@@Ravenrifle thanks brother!!
Next try should be the MPA production hunter rifle. $1000 less and a bad ass setup. Sounds like they had great CS but this rifle in particular didn't deliver.
@@PhalanxArms hell yeah I’ll definitely check that out. And yes they did.
What’s up party people a term use way back in the 1970s Nice vid and feedback 😮
@@AngelRivera-wp9bg thank you sir!
I didn't see them saying they tried at least 5 different ammo to maybe find one barrel liked?
My 308 was more accurate than the 6.5. Could hardly zero the 6.5. Thought about keeping and throwing a proof in it until I remembered I shouldn’t have to for what it costs.
This!!!!!
I see the Fix as a hunting rifle and not a precision rifle. I haven’t had issues with mine in .308. Shoots sub MOA for me. Don’t think I’ve ever shot better than .75 though. Feel like for a precision rifle it needs to be less than .5 consistently.
That’s awesome yours is a shooter!
Based on costs, this is simply UNSAT… I own a Honey Badger and a Thunder Chicken and based on that platform I’m not expecting sub MOA. And it looks cool too… lol
@@viprcuisine241 it’s great at that, it does look cool 🤣
14:30 Yep. I got a 24" CTR stainless in 6.5 Creedmoor a couple years ago. It is by far the most accurate rifle I've ever owned. It averages < 0.5 MOA for 5-shot groups with just about every bullet I've tried in it. The fact you never hear about them is insane IMHO.
You could basically buy 3 CTRs for the price of this gun and the CTR shoots groups ~1/3 the size of what this Q-fix was shooting.
I agree
Hi brother I just bought the mini fix 5.56, am I going to have problems with this one?😅
Personally I’ve heard good things about the mini fix in 6 arc and 22 arc. But please let me know how the 556 shoots!
@@possum__puncher i made a video if you want watch 5.56 PMC is trash asf lol
@@possum__puncher I made a video if you want to watch 5.56 PMC 62gr vs 223 Hornady 53gr 350 yards
Put an EC Tuner Brake on it and call it a day. Works for every gun Ive every put it on. Takes 1.25" guns down to .3".
@@Way2Evl I’m a big proponent of tuners I have the ec and tmb and chad. This gun more specifically the barrel didn’t shoot. When changed by the next owner to aftermarket barrels it did great. But for 3200 it had better shoot from the factory.
@@possum__puncher I do agree bro. I thought even 1 moa was shite for such a pricey tool. Would have been cool though to see what a tuner would have done for it.
Have not had the same issues with my Q Fix in 6 ARC, but it does have a Proof Research barrel. Sorry you are having this issue.
Hell yeah, Ive said in some other comments on here. I’d love to shoot that setup. Minifix in 6arc or 22arc would be noice!!
Feed ramp might be clipping bullets may be the source of ur problems I may be wrong though but just a hunch based on what y’all are saying
Its windy at the top. I never had issues with my 6.5 cm fix or mini fix in 6arc. But I also dont suffer from being a shitty shot
@@roscoep1082 🤣 I’ll let’s the f-class and prs pros that shot it know we are all shitty shots.
I got mine when they offered the Fix in 22 inch Bartlein or Proof CF stock. My bartlein 22 inch gun shoots as advertised and better with handholds but that's crazy.. 3200 bucks for a chat session lol I wonder who is manufacturing their barrels now.
Im being told it’s green mountain. 😂 I could be wrong but that would mean they switched from a $500 dollar barrel to a $80 barrel and didn’t lower the price to my knowledge😂
@@possum__puncher ooofff.. well glad you got a ZCO out of it all. Bummer you had to invest all that time and effort to find out you truly had a dud.
@@possum__puncher ooofff.. well glad you got a ZCO out of it all. Bummer you had to invest all that time and effort to find out you truly had a dud.
Own two of them in different barrel lengths. No issues 🤷♂️ (also just subscribed)
Hell yeah, I’m genuinely glad they are working for you! Also I appreciate the sub!!
I am hearing and seeing this a lot for this gun... I think it may... MAY be that it is too light. but if that is the case- then they should not make it so light.. oh well..
I wish you actually showed us the groups. Did you try multiple optics to rule that out? I’m not a q fan at all and would never own one but there wasn’t any actual evidence of the testing done and I think that’s a little unfair. They also offered to re barrel and shoot groups to send you and you declined. I wonder what those groups would have been
I have the groups from the last video and I have the footage from this one I’ll make a reel with. We switched optics multiple times. 2 arkens, nightforce and mk5hd. If you look at the last video you can see what we did testing wise. We did send it to be rebarreled and it came back not shooting that’s this whole video. I had a problem, I gave it to them to fix and they didn’t fix it. And based on the comments it looks like I’m not alone.
I have a 16” 308 cross and see these same issues. But I’m ok with that because I know what the gun does, what it was made for, and what I want to use it for. I’m thinking about rebarreling to a proof research stainless 6mm creedmoor tho
Right on, For me I won’t keep a gun that I won’t shoot. And for what that Q costs it should be much better. But I hope you rebarrel your cross and learn to love it!
@@possum__puncher did you ever try any handloads for it? I know that shouldn’t be a necessity but I’ve heard you can get both fix and cross to shoot lights out by hand loading
Wow dude, I'd be spittin' mad LOL....
“I’m not mad son, I’m just disappointed” 😂😂😂 always wanted to say that instead of hearing it
This explains why I only bought it after the free can, I bought it with rebarrel in mind
Bought the gun for 2700 -1000 for the can you are looking at 1700 plus the 800 dollar proof barrel. 2500 is not bad
@@jzzzzz8362 hell yeah man! I hope it’s awesome! I’ve seen em group with proofs!
It sounded like a barrel problem, not an actual platform problem. You said the friend you traded it to put new barrels on it and it shot, so it seems as just a bad barrel you received.
@@NightfallArmament 2 bad barrels. The original and replaced, it’s a 3400 dollar gun that they used with an 80 dollar green mountain barrel. My friend made it shot because he’s a barrel manufacturer. They make good barrels.
@@possum__puncher I agree with you on bad barrels and I know it sucks when you pay a higher price for something and it doesn’t do what you want it to. Your friend put a higher end barrel on it and it groups well, so it’s not a platform issue, it is a bad barrel issue from Q so I wouldn’t say the Fix is bad, the barrels used as of lately (I’m assuming you purchased recently) need reassessment. I bought mine in 308 shortly after the fix was released years ago and it groups well, maybe they changed barrel manufacturers. My opinion they should sell the 6.5cr with proof barrels to begin with.
“He said you ain’t got no nipples!”
@@jimmybrodriguez pow!
You should feel like dog Poo poo when a CVA will outshoot that Questionable rifle..
Taylor for President!!!
Jimmy won’t let me run 😢 he has the receipts
What rifle do you make?
A ZCO! You came off my dude!
I’m happy! 😊
Would suck to have an inaccurate 6.5 creed. To me, its what its all about
Those are some pretty good responses. You could/should have just sent it back man.
I did, it wasn’t fixed. So it’s gone. IMO if you clearly state your legitimate issues with something and do the diligence to send it in for RMA, it should come back fixed. I went the route I did to show the CS side (which was great). But the performance wasn’t there.
@@possum__puncher No I meant I would have taken the refund. This comment was made right before you talked about your trade but right after you talked about telling them the gun still sucks. The first comment was made right after your boy said that the rifle still sucks.
Great video.
Thank you sir, I appreciate that!
Make sure you show those wild groupings. Only verbal claims don't hold a lot of weight. This being the first video I have watched on this channel I want to know what your testing was and that you tried with varying optics and with/without suppressors.
Hell yeah thanks for coming by. I have that in the first video I did. Check it out and let me know!
This is a hilarious parody entry!
Idk what you are talking about 😂
Solid review🤘
Thank you, I Appreciate it!
Damn I gotta fix my fix
Next update from this is Taylor And Kevin on the range
I'll keep my Sig cross/NX8... 😂
Does it shoot whenever it wants ?
@@Michaeldpress14 no, it has been flawless ~1500 rounds.
Q Sert was dead before it was born. Mlok ftw.
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My fix rifles have been amazing . I’ll take it off your hands …
I haven't had good luck with hornady 140 eldm or match. Tried federal gold medal and it's much better group wise and standard deviation wise
@@ethanharris5556 I agree with both of those statements. I did a 6.5 creed ammo test and the federal was better.
@@possum__puncher same results between the 2 brands in 308 as well in my experience
@@ethanharris5556 I haven’t compared side by side in 308 but that might be a video 👀
Pretty, expensive guns… that dude was arguing with me too on some other video about the hb. Quoting “balanced bolt catch” and how that’s better for full auto. I didn’t know that was a thing for semi’s… I dunno. I get what they did. New name, well letter. But it’s a flashy brand. That’s their deal. Man when 4-500$ rigs group better than 34-3500$ ones… meh.
I got 1700 rounds of 6gt in my mpa barrel. Mike sexton and I both about .1 groups 5 shots after all year of match and load development and it shoots any kind of bullet weight velocity I can honestly say I love MPA for rifles. Q just hasn’t impressed me. Even though it’s lightweight and blah blah blah. 3200 dollars compared to my Christensen MPR in 300 win mag I haven’t had a proboem yet with that either. I look at Q like super car owners pay 1 million for a car to get gapped by a Honda at t2k
@@Triggertarzan hell yeah mpa makes fantastic production rifles. I’ve had one myself in 6.5
I dont know. It seems like you are expecting a field rifle to be a bench rifle. Never in my life have I ever seen or heard about anyone showing up to a PRS or FClass match with a Q Fix. Even Q told you the best it would do was an inch, why would you expect better than that? I dont see what the issue is here other than you think its too expensive.
@@L0NGRNGE lol no I don’t expect a 16” 6.5 to be bench or f-class but it should should at least as good as guns that cost 1/2 as much. They didn’t say what their accuracy standard exactly was, and I imagine don’t on purpose, but they said they shipped me a barrel that was in that standard, when I expressed what it was doing they tried to buy it back or replace it again. So clearly it wasn’t in standard. Expensive is fine. Just be worth it lol
@@possum__puncher I mean I get what you are saying, but the cost part is a whole other conversation. Performance wise, it's an inch gun. Just like every other factory gun out there. They sent you the gun back shooting an inch so seems to me that's what they define as good. To me, and sounds like you too, an inch won't cut it. Thus a Q fix should have been avoided in the first place. It's a factory field rifle w/nice fit and finish so the price is elevated. I dont think you will find a half-inch and certainly not a quarter inch gun for less than $5K. I heard you say you have some factory guns that print .25" all day, and I just dont believe that. Your buddy shooting x47 may very well have one, but he aint shooting factory ammo and its probably a custom rifle (I dont know anyone who chambers 6x47 in a factory gun and zero people make ammo for it). 6x47 is what I shoot, and it will print dots, not blobs, all day, but it is a $12K gun all-in.
Probably the most astute comment on here, although if I’m being honest I can see both sides of the argument. Ultimately they could not get the stated accuracy from the gun and for its price it should be able to at least do that, however your probably right @L0NGRNGE, even that would not been sufficient. I think the cost/result was just never going to be there and I think it worked out best for both parties.
@@L0NGRNGE that’s the problem, it wasn’t even an inch gun.
@@possum__puncher I absolutely agree, it should shoot an inch. Any sort of serious offering these days should shoot an inch with factory match ammo regardless of cost.
thanks for the video.
Absolutely!
I just want to know about the $1800 gun that shots 1/4” moa!! 😂
@@Woodwerks I’ll give you a hint. I’ve done several videos with it… it’s about 1/2 with most high end match ammo but with hand loads 🤌🏼 but I am gonna do a video soon with current match setups and how they group and why!
@@possum__puncher going through the videos to find it currently!
Here comes kevin to talk about how rich he is and how he doesnt need younas a customer and that younare wrong
Hi kevin 😂