Probably all b.s tv drama...TV shows are ALL staged and FAKE all of them! Nothing is real!!! Furthermore,the cars they build are NOT even the owners cars...The so-called owner picks them up and guess what you see the same car for years in the background or warehouse! ALL FAKE!!
I used to watch this show with my two sons. I used Body as an example, I told my sons get a good college education, make yourself valuable, so you never have to work for a jerk like Boyd. It worked. Thanks Boyd...
Unfortunately the Boyd Coddington of the world is everywhere and in every profession! And if you go into business for yourself you'll have the customers who you can never please.
Boyd was both the rise - and the fall of his empire. Chip was a big reason for Boyd’s success. I met Boyd in a business setting, and he was awful. He was an expert at treating people like dirt. If he was nice to you it was only because he wanted something from you - and once he got it, you were dirt. He was extremely ungrateful and considered himself to be a hot rod god. God bless Chip, he was able to move beyond Boyd.
@@ThomasPrior-wv6zn It's also dishonest to give attributes and temperament to a man who didn't deserve them. He may have made a couple of nice cars (which he rode the life out of), but by the time that shit show of a TV show came around, it was widely know those cars were rushed heaps of shit. He had no trouble banking the cheques and taking the credit though. The man was a prick and treated his staff terribly.
They hit the jackpot with this show, they couldn't have cast a more divisive bunch of trouble makers, bullies, ego maniacs, vacuous people if they tried, continually rescued by the few talented and genuine guys, that never get the recognition they deserve, Duane never got taken down the several steps he deserved, Blue bear was a legend in his own lunchtime
It was an extremely weird show... Duane should have got his comeuppance but he hid behind Boyd. I think the show would have been more interesting had they followed Blue Bear and the other kid that was fired for designing wheels for another company on the side. But also at the same time you've got to figure that they've had an American choppers on for a while at that point and a bunch of other fabrication shows... The last thing anybody wanted to do was turn on another show that was the exactly the same as everything else
@@THAT1J0SHGUY I think you just hit the nail on the head re American Choppers, when a show takes off and gets huge, its hard for similar shows not to take elements from it that they think makes it a success. So they try and ramp up the excitement by adding or manufacturing tension, either arguments or jeopardy via supposed impossible deadlines or waiting for X part that is the only one in the Country, and it arrives broken etc etc These type of shows attract more than just car guys/gear heads hence the need fir some added drama
@chrisjones Every Discovery Channel show has the exact format and everyone of them are scripted and full of BS that would never work in real life. I refuse to watch Anything from discovery channel.
The show was hard to watch because the employees seemed to be miserable and stressed out. Either he was a horrible boss or Discovery maligned his reputation by making him look cruel.
Boyd was a crazy man. He was a visionary and designer but treated his employees like dirt. Duane, his shop manager was a real a...hole,,berating anyone who worked there. Boyd had a lifetime grudge against Chip because he left to start his own business, and many of Boyd's people left to work for chip. He had his ex wife running the office when he remarried. He destroyed the business himself.
The world is full of people who are good at doing something, cooking, carpentry, fixing cars, but are terrible at business. Coddington was one of those people. Good at designing custom cars, but a lousy boss and business person.
Boyd’s shop went through talent like a dragster goes through fuel. Charlie quit after being offered a 1 off custom job and boyd flipped. Duane caused more problems than he could ever solve. And simply you can’t build quality anything in a week, that’s the reason most people quit.
Oh I hated Duane, what a piece of work that guy was. Boyd had an eye for style and technically, at least back in the eighties, his cars were quite innovative.
He came across as angry and arrogant on the show...the only but where he redeemed himself was when Scott left and he said "shame to see you go, you do great work"
I've been in the custom car business since the late 90's, and Boyd was always - always known as a jerk / bully / bad human. He was an absolute visionary in the custom car business without a doubt and he should always be credited with his contributions to the business, but he's an example of how to not treat other people.
I grew up idolizing Boyd but met him in person one time and hated him after because he was such a rude dick! I have met Chip Foose multiple times and like him more every time I see and talk to him. Chip Foose will always be one of the car guys I look up to.
Agreed. However, based on so many similar 'reality' shows, how much of the drama was real and how much was fabricated just for show. My experience has been that good business management usually doesn't involve many surprises or much drama.
Friend of mine and I put in for a show and we made a final six cut. Actually my friend put in for the show without my say so. The other five new something that we did not. That we were the odds on favorite, actually a shoe in to get the time slot. After an accident I was in no shape. So my friend removed our entry. The point of all this is I had some inroads. I was in the back of many shops after my health improved. All this just to say that at least the other shows, the drama was for TV only. For at least 95 percent of the time.
These comments say it all. When you’ve been dead for 15 years and all anyone remembers is how you treated your employees and what a jerk you were, thats not much of a legacy. Also, That dyed beard was gross for an old man.
Boyd was a TV personality, don't know why everyone hates him, its all scripted for Tv the arguments, and everything else, nothing happened randomly its all planned to make interesting programs.
I tried watching the show several times. Too little other talented guys and too much Coddington. Originally, I thought this has got to be an act for TV, wrong. Possibly, he had a good side, I just never saw the appreciative, positive, kind, team guy, visionary, all around good guy in him. That description fits Chip Foose. Coddington is not missed.
Boyd was not a friendly guy. He was actually pretty petty about his ego. My dad had him make wheels and steering wheel as well as some other things for his car. My pops won the L.A Auto Show and Boyd had a visible meltdown because my dad beat him. He made an ass out of himself cussing and complaining to the officials. So all the lovers of Boyd can say all y’all want. I was there and saw it. My opinion is he was absolutely great at making custom parts, but I lost all respect that day.
@@tonyfondacaro1980 Thank you, my pops is a humble man and if he was the one beat, he would walk over and shake your hand and say congratulations. I’ll try better next time. That’s the difference between a man and an @sshole.
I don’t think there are any Boyd lovers out there. None who’ve seen the show anyway. He went from hero to zero when his show revealed his true rotten nature.
Met Boyd once when i was maybe 19 or 20 at the Boise Roadster Show. He was my idol and an icon to me. When i went up to buy some merch and say hi, was was a complete ahole. I always told my self maybe he was having a bad day, nope, it was just him.
i met him at a show in a autograph line he was even rude to fans lol chip goose was super nice to every single fan who asked for an autograph, everyone got the same amount of high energy, boyd was in a bad mood the whole time, george barris was fantastic to meet as well, they had handlers with him cause he’d drag a kid off to explain car stuff to them and kill an hour easy
This was one of those shows that highlighted how employers take their workforce for granted and given the talent he had its a miracle they weren't headhunted by other workshops.
I was going to jump on here and comment about Boyd's character but I'm pleased to notice everyone else is already aware. It really bugs me when a holes are venerated just because they're dead. The world is a better place without that shit head.
Tacky cars and reality TV “phony drama.” Real car guys want to watch nuts and bolts building and maybe learn something. In this show, the cars took a backseat to phony drama and real car guys just hated it. People watching for the drama could get that anywhere.
Boyd was a jerk (and I'm being very polite) to his employees. It doesn't matter what you can produce if you treat people like crap! I was not unhappy to hear of the downfall.
I watched to the end. Plus my uncle was a close friend of Boyd from back in the early 60's. They both built hot rods and street rods, they even talked on the phone often exchanging ideas and connecting each other with parts and people.
He really came off as a jerk on his show. The high turnover of employees showed this. It was also said that he never shared any of the profit from the show with the guys who were forced to work many extra hours to make the shows deadline.
Sometimes an unreasonable amount of extra hours to the point of being unsafe. If you have a tired worker hustling to get a project done, using power tools and in a shop environment, accidents happen.
Coddington might've made some nice cars, but his business was poorly run. One episode from the show has stuck with me. They had a young guy just hired, he was from Montana, and this other employee known for some reason as "Bluebear" was harassing the new guy mercilessly, basically calling him a sheep-fucker. When the guy complained to the shop boss Duane, rather than warn Bluebear in no uncertain terms to stop Duane told the guy who complained to ignore the abuse. All I could think was the episode could be used as a tutorial in how to NOT handle harassment complaints if you want to avoid a lawsuit. And I'm not sure if the constant deadlines were just a device used for the show to create tension, but it seemed to me asking workers to work long hours under constant pressure because "the big show is next week!" created a less safe work space given the potentially dangerous machinery involved. That's how accidents happen and people lose body parts or lives.
@@anonymousplanetfambly4598 About 10 years ago I sold a Hemi to guy who knew him and he told me that he was working on a road crew ,doing repairs on roads somewhere. He was a real narcissist .
All I really remember of the show is many folks criticizing him as a One Trick Pony, and everything Boyd designed became a "Boydster". And when Blue Bear tried to do a more traditional style Hot Rod, he got unceremoniously terminated from his employment with Boyd. And that Dwayne guy.... whoooo weeee. That guy was a piece of work.
@@That_AMC_Guy I've set up a few shops and some of the guys are.....well....not wine sipping flower arrangers, but you do right by them they'll well and truly do the same. That brings me to dwayne, he after not long would end up chained to a Windsor block err attracting sharks etc..
The guy just seemed toxic and his shop manager a total henchman. Was hard to watch the show with how he treated people. Was glad to see an honest story about him.
I saw Dwayne from this show recently.. He still has the brown spot on his nose from being up Boyd's butt so far... lol Dwayne asked me, if I want to super size my fries... lol
If you really paid attention to the behind the scenes stuff they thought wasn't going to be heard, Boyd Coddington was a hack. Some of the things he did cutting corners on paying customers vehicles was almost criminal
I worked for an auto auction back when the show was on. We had a couple vehicles come though from his shop. They were the biggest POS's. Alot of hot glue and bubble gum welds. I was really disappointed the first time one came in.
I used to watch American Hot Rod. The level of stress I saw on Boyd was too much for me. Everything seemed to be promising builds too early and then stressing to complete them on time. I could not understand that crazy mentality. It's not worth the stress level doing that sort of thing.
I always idolised Boyd Coddington since I was 18 as a high school student looking through magazines like Hot Rod and Car Craft! But after his reality show my first impression was "thank God I don't work for him!" I admired the finished product and design but the man himself was just too abusive for my liking.
As far I could see,he was the only real craftsman on the show. A real metal smith of the old School. Today,people pay big money to learn how to work sheet metal like Roy Could.
Personally I'm surprised he didn't end up in federal prison.... I'm serious, especially when he took his company from private to public sold a crapload of stock and then if I recall correctly two years later maybe three he declare bankruptcy folded up and walked away with a whole bunch of money in his pockets....all legal of course
Duane, shop manager, was the real reason for Boyds downfall. This angry little jackass caused 90% of all problems in the shop because he had "small man syndrome." I think Boyd was intimidated by Duane and was afraid of any kind of confrontation with the tyrant, many highly skilled employees hit the road because of Duane.
Boyd Coddington was the reason.. Duane was just an ass that did not deserve the position.. The Company was doomed by the owner.. He though his shit didn't stink and he took advantage of everyone that worked for him.. He treated his employees like garbage... The more successful he got the more he shit on everyone...
It was on Boyd though. He put Duane in the position of shop manager and backed him up when he was riding everyone's ass, a poorly managed shop, but I suppose the drama Duane created was good for TV ratings.
Jo McGee, Boyd's last wife is my cousin. We were like brother and sister growing up. We are still very close. So I had a real inside view of the show. A lot of the friction between people was made up or highlighted. Many times the director would say, That was great but go back in the office and come out again this time be really pissed off. They promoted the arguments. Thought it would make a better show. Boyd was a tough person to get to know. Private and set in his ways. Yes he would over promise on what could be delivered. But felt it needed to be done to stay ahead of competition, and didn't allow time for things to go wrong as they tend to do. He was always under tremendous pressure. Most of it by commitments he made. If he missed commitments those people came at him with a vengeance. Boyd was always good to me and I saw many many times he was relaxed and treated everyone around with respect and smiles. I love my cousin Jo. She is a real sweetheart and has had some real rough patches in life!!! I'm not going to get into any rumors or the Foose thing as I don't have the full story straight from the people directly involved. Wishing everyone smooth roads and a full tank!
Boyd like many got his fame at the expense of others, the difference with Boyd was he never gave credit to anyone who MADE him. Then add on he was an arrogant personality and made it a point to be noticed. He was his own worst enemy, It was all about him and what he wanted evidence by his marriage. The only good thing he did for the industry was his show, it gave exposure to the people who were making him successful and they moved on to become legends on their own.
I remember reading that article, wasn't it his wife that got the motor home stuck? They were told NOT to take it where they did, they drove it anyway....it was a huge tow bill
@@michaelguinn5736 yes with Boyd there as well .. then they tried to get it out themselves and made such a big mess instead of calling for professional assistance they caused even more environmental damage. Then they still had to call for a commercial tow. There was a half page write up in hot rod magazine ...pics and all and they were even critical of that whole family and specifically mentioned....hot rodders and racers are there as a privilege and when one person or in this case a well known car builder knows better is warned and does that type of environmental damage this jeopardizes everyones ability to use the salt flats....and certainly gives car people a bloody lip
I watched the hell out of that show. Boyd was a talented prick. He'd had supervisors that were draconian areseholes pick on his very talented and creative workers. They bullied the workers so much that they all had to quit from working under those hostile conditions. He got what he deserved......
I used to watch the show but I would get very frustrated at him. I used to like to see how the cars were built but he would always take some projects that didn't have enough time to complete. So he expected his workers to work overtime and weekends. That was so inconsiderate of him to always keep doing that.
What went wrong? He grew too fast and started believing his press releases. He was good at what he did. He was bad with people. I mean, he hired Duane. Downhill from there
Simple answer, Boyd was a dick,and the shop manager Duane created more problems than he solved. Lots of talent passed through the shop and went on to better things without the drama!
Very true, I couldn't stand Duane and his crappy phrase, " I was getting alittle frustrated", he said that every time someone didn't kneel to him basically.
He did one of the worst thing I had seen on TV when he took a pristine early Model T that was in near perfect running condition, and chopped it into a rod. He also allowed bullies (Blue Bear) for one, to run amuck in the shop.
I learned a long time ago, any restored or custom car takes as long as it takes. Do it right, do it the way you want and to hell with how long it takes. It's finished the way you want it AND most times it lasts longer. Employers that push to finish just to make a buck, are NOT the people skilled labor should work for.
Actually I'm kinda glad the car I just built took like 3yrs and 1200+ hours. Sure im slow , the hours totaled up to time at the shop and probably 1/4 of em are standing there drooling and looking what to do next so it's not in the way later on. Did it all with my own 2 hands , and dad would help to install a large part but other than that it was me. Feels good , but I'll never build one that in depth again 😂
The only thing I give that SOB credit for is creating Hot Rods for the Rich and Famous. Taking it out of the hands of the guys and gals with dirt under their nails.
Coddington seemed to be one of those people who thought he could treat people however he wanted because he won awards and people would call him a “genius” in his field. Usually you see that behavior in actors and musicians rather than mechanics. 😁
I had custom offset Boyd's on my 1988 IROC which allowed me to run 315s inside the rear fenders, even lowered a bit, with racing suspension in the early 90s 295s in the front. I was pro-tour before it existed. Six-point cage, subframe connectors, Schroth harness, T-56 6-speed swap, a first ever, SC 383 Vortech, etc.
I hated to see the way that Boyd and his evil twin Duane treated their employees. Compared to the way that Chip Foose and Dave Kindig treat their employees. Not speaking ill of the dead here, just stating the facts as I see them.
American Hot Rod started losing it's following because of the way Boyd treated Charlie when Charlie asked for a few days off because he had been asked to paint a Riddler Award entry, I believe it was by Chip Foose. Even if I'm wrong, Boyd basically told Charlie if he did it then he was a traitor and he would be fired. As much as it pained Charlie to go against Boyd, this was to big an opportunity for Charlie to increase his reputation in the industry to pass up, and it turned out to be the right decision for him and it turned a lot of the show's fanbase away from Boyd.
Is that the episode where Diane was crying, "But why Chiiiiiiiiiiiiiiip?" and looked like she was going to break down? Any decent management staff would have congratulated him on the opportunity and said, "Don't forget to drop by when you have your own shop."
My dad owns the 1932 Ford Boyd Coddington Barret-Jackson Roadster. There are some interesting stories behind this auction item. It sure was hard to watch the way Boyd treated the employees at the shop.
@@jamesgullo8240 The vehicle required the "finishing touches" after the auction. Buyer knowing financial situation of said shop at time, refused to return vehicle to seller's shop. Buyer required sellers mechanics travel to buyers location to complete. Somethin' about possession is nine tenths of the law.
Coddington was just one of many. He didn't create anything new or definitive. The general consensus is that he was not a very personable guy and he had a reputation for being less than generous with praise for his employees. He had his day.
I remember the episode where they took on a young woman mechanic - and Boyd's wife was as jealous as fck that she was younger and better looking - and got her fired within a fortnight. Yeah, really nice people - NOT.
Boyd was a bully and Duane was a weasel. It was a lot of good people like Charlie Hutton, Mike Curtis, and Chip Foose who actually built the business and gave it fame. Some of the cars like the Aluma Tub were not even built by Codington. It was amazing how many of his cars ended up at Barrett Jackson within months of being built.
Liked Roy Allen Schmidt (1941-2005), reminded me of my Grandfather........close to the metal, fabricating and enjoying every minute of it. Not afraid to tell you the truth. That Duane Mayer guy was over his head to be shop manager. ........How many fires? 4 or many? One shop employee wises up ahead of time.....decides to move on and starts packing his stuff up and Duane shows up (probably to fire him). The guy just ignores Duane packs up his stuff and drives off.
Will always remember Duane bitching that Roy wasn't keeping up with his work. Three weeks later the man died of cancer!!! He showed up and did his job, and asshole Duane kicks him while he's down. R.I.P. Roy, you are missed🙏
I interviewed with Boyd Coddington when I was in college at WyoTech in 2000-2002. He was absolutely the rudest person I have ever met and told all of us we were waisting our time in the business and then proceeded to offer me a position if I "forgot everything I had learned and wasted my tuition on". Needless to say I declined his offer.
I had a phone conversation with Boyd about a project I was having a problem with, and he took the time to offer a few solutions. The man was a gentleman, in my eyes!
Best thing Charlie ever did was leave, he deserved so much more from Boyd but the treat him like shit and thought he would stay for ever just because he put him up in his house. When in fact he left his wife and family every week to travel hundreds of miles to work there.
The pressure of the building timelines for the show content caused the emoloyee and ownership issues. Before the show there was no short timeline to create these hot rods for its customers and these buyers were willing to wait what Im sure was a very lenghthy waiting period for the final product.
I stopped believing in those timelines very shortly after starting to watch the show. You constantly saw cars in the background that were the subject of other "two week" timelines. And they were built for other shows, public unveilings, etc.
Regardless of personality I still use one of Duane’s quotes a lot. “There’s never enough time to do things around here right the first time, but there’s always enough time to do them twice”.
That's Dennis. I also couldn't help but notice how much weight Boyd had gained....compared to how he looked in the show. Certainly did not look healthy in his later years.
One thing that Boyd did that got me going was during the build of "Crazy Horse" where he brought in a Marine Sergeant to treat his guys like they were in boot camp because he felt that they didn't have the attitude to work as a team. 1) They were beat working long hours. 2) They were human beings who like the rest of us have their limits physically, mentally and emotionally. 3) With the exception of his little ass kisser Dwayne, Boyd's ego, greed, and rush to get projects done in a short amount time were too much for them to take.
Roy and Lee were a great Combo! When Roy died the look on Lee's face was heartbreaking. The show was less fun and more drama after that building up to employees getting fired one after another. I can't recall anyone leaving on good terms.
@@michaellucas7882 I have heard Roy told his family to give all his tools and box to Lee. Great story as initially Roy could barely put up with him. They grew on each other and you could tell Roy actually really cared about him.
Just like OCC, people can stand only so much BS. Coddington was an A-hole to the extreme. His on air of screwing over Chip was the end of Coddington for almost every viewer.
OCC got high on their own supply. After the show ended the old man moved the shop and show room near where the I-84 and Thruway cross. Big gawdy place that didn't last. Cody Connelly and Vinnie got treated like crap. The bike that Cody was gifted was taken back. He ended up suing them for getting the short end on all kinds of things. Vinnie has a general repair shop for cars and trucks. Everyone on show sued the old man from the looks of it. Jr isn't as bad, but he's no angel.
Boyd's also had car title issues when he got caught up in the Cobra repli-car (kit car) title issues in regards to bogus car title years to avoid taxes, insurance costs, and emissions requirements. He had to do a public service announcement to talk about this as part of his conviction.
Before the show aired I respected Boyd, and figured must have had talent to rise to where he did in the business. But I lost that respect for him because if he did have talent, he never demonstrated any of it on the show and just acted like a narcissist. You never saw him in the shop working with his crew, he was always sitting in his office in his stupid Hawaiian shirts stuffing candy in his face. And all Duane did was make me think about how much I would have hated working at a place like that. The truly talented workers found their way out and achieved success.
Boyd was a horrible businessman and a complete jerk. "His" work was mostly the vision and work of other people, hired by him in the pursuit of his own brand. At one point he even lost the rights to commercial use of his own name. I had a friend (now passed) who met him at a show once. Boyd blocked him into a parking space. When asked if he could please move his car to let the other driver out his response was "do you have any idea who the fk I am?"
Yea because people that get blocked in always are so polite, lolol. I have a funny felling it didn't go down exactly like your third hand info is presented.
@@mitch_the_-itch I left out the part where my friend told Boyd he knew who he was...a guy who was going to have his car keyed if he didn't move it. Surely you didn't think Coddington was going to get a polite response after being an obnoxious, condescending a-hole.
@@johnbarker5009 No I would not have assumed that either. Having been alive for a long time Ive realized both assholes involved usually think they don't stink ;)
I thought the show was about how Boyd became a business dictator, hired a mouthy arrogant Forman, got his deadlines to short, and refused to work with any other hot rod shops. In short, a film about Donald Trump with fans wheels. Not the complete past history of drag racing and hot rods! TMI FOOL!
You did not have ti watch long to figure out just how fake everything was They would build some car for some theoretical "customer" always get it done at the very last minute deliver it to the customer, sometimes make big deal out of it like taking that Mustang to Indy only to see a few episodes later that same car among others sitting in the shop in the background
The show was a strange brew of ex-wife keeping the books, the current wife and the put-upon crew. Boyd would guilt-shame them if they asked for time off from the ridiculous, fake schedule...
@@kyle381000 He got so drunk, he fell out of his car while it was traveling 25mph and it crashed and he was sent to the hospital. This was back in 2016.
Boyd and Duane were hard to stomach. Two horrible bullies who treated their staff like dirt.
I'd never work there ,no matter how bad I wanted to learn.
Correct I remember it depicted as the epitome of a toxic workplace. Guess some of that could be editing.
Probably all b.s tv drama...TV shows are ALL staged and FAKE all of them! Nothing is real!!!
Furthermore,the cars they build are NOT even the owners cars...The so-called owner picks them up and guess what you see the same car for years in the background or warehouse! ALL FAKE!!
I agree. I couldnt even watch the show after about 2 episodes. Those 2 drove me nut sfor all the wrong reasons.
@@MrTheHillfolk That's too bad. I'm sure they're still waiting on your unqualified application.
I used to watch this show with my two sons. I used Body as an example, I told my sons get a good college education, make yourself valuable, so you never have to work for a jerk like Boyd. It worked. Thanks Boyd...
That doesn't make sense. So you're saying assholes aren't college educated? You can't be successful without college education?
A "good" college education?
Next to impossible
@@RJ1999x Maybe next to impossible now. But back when this show aired, there actually were good schools left.
@@anonymousplanetfambly4598 in certain instances, yes I will agree
Unfortunately the Boyd Coddington of the world is everywhere and in every profession! And if you go into business for yourself you'll have the customers who you can never please.
Boyd was both the rise - and the fall of his empire. Chip was a big reason for Boyd’s success. I met Boyd in a business setting, and he was awful. He was an expert at treating people like dirt. If he was nice to you it was only because he wanted something from you - and once he got it, you were dirt. He was extremely ungrateful and considered himself to be a hot rod god. God bless Chip, he was able to move beyond Boyd.
NOT NICE TO SPEAK ILL OF THE DEAD
@@ThomasPrior-wv6zn That is true at the funeral and graveside services - but not when the history books are being written.
@@ThomasPrior-wv6zn It's also dishonest to give attributes and temperament to a man who didn't deserve them. He may have made a couple of nice cars (which he rode the life out of), but by the time that shit show of a TV show came around, it was widely know those cars were rushed heaps of shit. He had no trouble banking the cheques and taking the credit though. The man was a prick and treated his staff terribly.
@@Thomas63r2 so are you not a sinner
r i p boyd
@@Thomas63r2 did you know him then or just heard it from some one
They hit the jackpot with this show, they couldn't have cast a more divisive bunch of trouble makers, bullies, ego maniacs, vacuous people if they tried, continually rescued by the few talented and genuine guys, that never get the recognition they deserve, Duane never got taken down the several steps he deserved, Blue bear was a legend in his own lunchtime
"Lunchtime" 😂😂😂
It was an extremely weird show... Duane should have got his comeuppance but he hid behind Boyd. I think the show would have been more interesting had they followed Blue Bear and the other kid that was fired for designing wheels for another company on the side. But also at the same time you've got to figure that they've had an American choppers on for a while at that point and a bunch of other fabrication shows... The last thing anybody wanted to do was turn on another show that was the exactly the same as everything else
@@THAT1J0SHGUY I think you just hit the nail on the head re American Choppers, when a show takes off and gets huge, its hard for similar shows not to take elements from it that they think makes it a success.
So they try and ramp up the excitement by adding or manufacturing tension, either arguments or jeopardy via supposed impossible deadlines or waiting for X part that is the only one in the Country, and it arrives broken etc etc
These type of shows attract more than just car guys/gear heads hence the need fir some added drama
@chrisjones
Every Discovery Channel show has the exact format and everyone of them are scripted and full of BS that would never work in real life.
I refuse to watch Anything from discovery channel.
American Chopper🤔
The problem with "American Hot Rod" was Boyd Coddington period.
Absolute truth.
He was a total jackazz
When you see him without the hat you realize instantly why he always wore the hat on the tv show.
The show was hard to watch because the employees seemed to be miserable and stressed out. Either he was a horrible boss or Discovery maligned his reputation by making him look cruel.
He was a total jerk, but that was part of the draw of the show
Boyd was a crazy man. He was a visionary and designer but treated his employees like dirt. Duane, his shop manager was a real a...hole,,berating anyone who worked there. Boyd had a lifetime grudge against Chip because he left to start his own business, and many of Boyd's people left to work for chip. He had his ex wife running the office when he remarried. He destroyed the business himself.
Woulda been fun while getting canned if one of the employees told Dwayne that if he's so smart go build it himself.
The world is full of people who are good at doing something, cooking, carpentry, fixing cars, but are terrible at business. Coddington was one of those people. Good at designing custom cars, but a lousy boss and business person.
Seemed his ex wife was one of the people that made the business go
Boyd’s shop went through talent like a dragster goes through fuel. Charlie quit after being offered a 1 off custom job and boyd flipped. Duane caused more problems than he could ever solve. And simply you can’t build quality anything in a week, that’s the reason most people quit.
Oh I hated Duane, what a piece of work that guy was.
Boyd had an eye for style and technically, at least back in the eighties, his cars were quite innovative.
He came across as angry and arrogant on the show...the only but where he redeemed himself was when Scott left and he said "shame to see you go, you do great work"
Boyd built great cars, destroyed talented workers.
@@ronhaefner7833 His workers/staff built great cars.
@@MikeyMack303 Agreed
I've been in the custom car business since the late 90's, and Boyd was always - always known as a jerk / bully / bad human. He was an absolute visionary in the custom car business without a doubt and he should always be credited with his contributions to the business, but he's an example of how to not treat other people.
I grew up idolizing Boyd but met him in person one time and hated him after because he was such a rude dick! I have met Chip Foose multiple times and like him more every time I see and talk to him. Chip Foose will always be one of the car guys I look up to.
Haha chips alright.
I saw a vid that his 1st car was a VW golf.
I said to myself I knew I liked him for some reason 😂
When I saw Boyd Coddington's creations back in the early 80's that's when I idolised him the most! Boyd Coddington some where got lost!
chip way better person
Foose has class when dealing with people - Coddington unfortunately had none!
i thought boyd was a douche too
I used to watch Coddingtons show. I always thought that it should be used as a teaching tool on how not to treat your help and run a business!
This. So much this.
Agreed. However, based on so many similar 'reality' shows, how much of the drama was real and how much was fabricated just for show.
My experience has been that good business management usually doesn't involve many surprises or much drama.
Friend of mine and I put in for a show and we made a final six cut. Actually my friend put in for the show without my say so. The other five new something that we did not. That we were the odds on favorite, actually a shoe in to get the time slot. After an accident I was in no shape. So my friend removed our entry. The point of all this is I had some inroads. I was in the back of many shops after my health improved. All this just to say that at least the other shows, the drama was for TV only. For at least 95 percent of the time.
@@kyle381000 I don't think any of the drama with 'Blue Bear' was fabricated. Or any of the crew getting fed up with the insane deadlines and quitting.
Was always disappointed when Dwayne walked away from being an ass unscathed. So many talented staff treated like crap
These comments say it all. When you’ve been dead for 15 years and all anyone remembers is how you treated your employees and what a jerk you were, thats not much of a legacy. Also, That dyed beard was gross for an old man.
And the permanently stuck on baseball cap to hide the fact you're bald.
Sad.
Boyd was a TV personality, don't know why everyone hates him, its all scripted for Tv the arguments, and everything else, nothing happened randomly its all planned to make interesting programs.
I tried watching the show several times. Too little other talented guys and too much Coddington. Originally, I thought this has got to be an act for TV, wrong. Possibly, he had a good side, I just never saw the appreciative, positive, kind, team guy, visionary, all around good guy in him. That description fits Chip Foose. Coddington is not missed.
King of HotRodding??!! They have been hotrodding long before this guy was even born!
And they stated that he's credited with establishing the hot rod craze on the west coast ' yeah right.
Thank you!
To be fair, Boyd Coddington was probably granted that title by Boyd Coddington.
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Boyd was not a friendly guy. He was actually pretty petty about his ego. My dad had him make wheels and steering wheel as well as some other things for his car. My pops won the L.A Auto Show and Boyd had a visible meltdown because my dad beat him. He made an ass out of himself cussing and complaining to the officials. So all the lovers of Boyd can say all y’all want. I was there and saw it. My opinion is he was absolutely great at making custom parts, but I lost all respect that day.
Kudos to your dad for taking Boyd down a peg.
@@tonyfondacaro1980 Thank you, my pops is a humble man and if he was the one beat, he would walk over and shake your hand and say congratulations. I’ll try better next time. That’s the difference between a man and an @sshole.
I don’t think there are any Boyd lovers out there. None who’ve seen the show anyway. He went from hero to zero when his show revealed his true rotten nature.
Met Boyd once when i was maybe 19 or 20 at the Boise Roadster Show. He was my idol and an icon to me. When i went up to buy some merch and say hi, was was a complete ahole. I always told my self maybe he was having a bad day, nope, it was just him.
i met him at a show in a autograph line he was even rude to fans lol chip goose was super nice to every single fan who asked for an autograph, everyone got the same amount of high energy, boyd was in a bad mood the whole time, george barris was fantastic to meet as well, they had handlers with him cause he’d drag a kid off to explain car stuff to them and kill an hour easy
*Foose
Love the goose
This was one of those shows that highlighted how employers take their workforce for granted and given the talent he had its a miracle they weren't headhunted by other workshops.
They were..😆
How *SOME* employers take their workforce for granted. Not all.
Nobody would ever know who Boyd Cottington was if not for Chip Foose.
I think you got it backwards.... Boyd gave Chip his start
@@mrglass6919 Do you have any idea who Chip Foose's father was? Go find out about that, then get back to me.
@@mrglass6919 Foose's show came first. Boyd would never have had a show, if Foose hadnt first.
I was going to jump on here and comment about Boyd's character but I'm pleased to notice everyone else is already aware.
It really bugs me when a holes are venerated just because they're dead.
The world is a better place without that shit head.
Tacky cars and reality TV “phony drama.”
Real car guys want to watch nuts and bolts building and maybe learn something. In this show, the cars took a backseat to phony drama and real car guys just hated it. People watching for the drama could get that anywhere.
OCC Choppers 2.0 "This time we present bullshit with cars in the background"
Pretty much when Roy died, the shop died too.
Lol Roy and the cups of acetylene 😂😂
Boyd was a jerk (and I'm being very polite) to his employees. It doesn't matter what you can produce if you treat people like crap! I was not unhappy to hear of the downfall.
Boyd and Duane simply couldn’t understand they were their own worst enemy.
Exceptionally well said! 👌
I watched to the end. Plus my uncle was a close friend of Boyd from back in the early 60's. They both built hot rods and street rods, they even talked on the phone often exchanging ideas and connecting each other with parts and people.
He really came off as a jerk on his show. The high turnover of employees showed this. It was also said that he never shared any of the profit from the show with the guys who were forced to work many extra hours to make the shows deadline.
Sometimes an unreasonable amount of extra hours to the point of being unsafe. If you have a tired worker hustling to get a project done, using power tools and in a shop environment, accidents happen.
Coddington might've made some nice cars, but his business was poorly run. One episode from the show has stuck with me. They had a young guy just hired, he was from Montana, and this other employee known for some reason as "Bluebear" was harassing the new guy mercilessly, basically calling him a sheep-fucker. When the guy complained to the shop boss Duane, rather than warn Bluebear in no uncertain terms to stop Duane told the guy who complained to ignore the abuse. All I could think was the episode could be used as a tutorial in how to NOT handle harassment complaints if you want to avoid a lawsuit. And I'm not sure if the constant deadlines were just a device used for the show to create tension, but it seemed to me asking workers to work long hours under constant pressure because "the big show is next week!" created a less safe work space given the potentially dangerous machinery involved. That's how accidents happen and people lose body parts or lives.
I remember that episode. Wonder where that bluebear hemorrhoid is now.
@@anonymousplanetfambly4598 About 10 years ago I sold a Hemi to guy who knew him and he told me that he was working on a road crew ,doing repairs on roads somewhere.
He was a real narcissist .
I was never that impressed with work. I was more impressed by the people around him.
All I really remember of the show is many folks criticizing him as a One Trick Pony, and everything Boyd designed became a "Boydster". And when Blue Bear tried to do a more traditional style Hot Rod, he got unceremoniously terminated from his employment with Boyd.
And that Dwayne guy.... whoooo weeee. That guy was a piece of work.
@@That_AMC_Guy I've set up a few shops and some of the guys are.....well....not wine sipping flower arrangers, but you do right by them they'll well and truly do the same. That brings me to dwayne, he after not long would end up chained to a Windsor block err attracting sharks etc..
from what i hear, he was totally different than the show showed him.
I think you're right it was staged drama poorly executed.
The guy just seemed toxic and his shop manager a total henchman. Was hard to watch the show with how he treated people. Was glad to see an honest story about him.
Boyd Coddington was Orange County Choppers of the hot rod world.
another loser show,,
Amen to that...
I saw Dwayne from this show recently.. He still has the brown spot on his nose from being up Boyd's butt so far... lol Dwayne asked me, if I want to super size my fries... lol
lol how did you fit …so many stupid …jokes lol into one …comment lol
@@vicariousjohnson9823 Easy, Im brilliant...
If you really paid attention to the behind the scenes stuff they thought wasn't going to be heard, Boyd Coddington was a hack. Some of the things he did cutting corners on paying customers vehicles was almost criminal
The funny part is that he did that while he was being filmed.
@@MrDeadsr kinda made you wonder how bad it was when the camera was not there.
I worked for an auto auction back when the show was on. We had a couple vehicles come though from his shop. They were the biggest POS's. Alot of hot glue and bubble gum welds. I was really disappointed the first time one came in.
I used to watch American Hot Rod. The level of stress I saw on Boyd was too much for me. Everything seemed to be promising builds too early and then stressing to complete them on time. I could not understand that crazy mentality. It's not worth the stress level doing that sort of thing.
The deadlines were scripted, also you often see previous and future cars in the background of the episodes.
@@kawasakiglenn The point is that Boyd's stress level was off the chart, not how the stressful situation was created.
I always idolised Boyd Coddington since I was 18 as a high school student looking through magazines like Hot Rod and Car Craft! But after his reality show my first impression was "thank God I don't work for him!" I admired the finished product and design but the man himself was just too abusive for my liking.
Roy Schmidt was the real star of that show, that man could do magic to a sheet of metal, he died durring the series
As far I could see,he was the only real craftsman on the show. A real metal smith of the old School. Today,people pay big money to learn how to work sheet metal like Roy Could.
Personally I'm surprised he didn't end up in federal prison.... I'm serious, especially when he took his company from private to public sold a crapload of stock and then if I recall correctly two years later maybe three he declare bankruptcy folded up and walked away with a whole bunch of money in his pockets....all legal of course
What went wrong? He was a complete prick, and then he died.
Just heard 3 marriages , no doubt he was a prick
When you get to be so arrogant that you're actually naming colors after yourself, then that's a bit much.
No matter how much you accomplish, if youre a jerk, that is how youll be remembered.
Duane, shop manager, was the real reason for Boyds downfall. This angry little jackass caused 90% of all problems in the shop because he had "small man syndrome." I think Boyd was intimidated by Duane and was afraid of any kind of confrontation with the tyrant, many highly skilled employees hit the road because of Duane.
Boyd Coddington was the reason.. Duane was just an ass that did not deserve the position.. The Company was doomed by the owner.. He though his shit didn't stink and he took advantage of everyone that worked for him.. He treated his employees like garbage... The more successful he got the more he shit on everyone...
It was on Boyd though. He put Duane in the position of shop manager and backed him up when he was riding everyone's ass, a poorly managed shop, but I suppose the drama Duane created was good for TV ratings.
Did you watch the show? Ever? Boyd was just as bad as Duane.
Duane needed to be hooked to a tow hitch and driven down the road at 80mph till he disappeared...
art you hit the nail on the head, I always said little duane suffered from napoleon syndrome. If you were taller than him , you were the enemy
Jo McGee, Boyd's last wife is my cousin. We were like brother and sister growing up. We are still very close. So I had a real inside view of the show. A lot of the friction between people was made up or highlighted. Many times the director would say, That was great but go back in the office and come out again this time be really pissed off. They promoted the arguments. Thought it would make a better show. Boyd was a tough person to get to know. Private and set in his ways. Yes he would over promise on what could be delivered. But felt it needed to be done to stay ahead of competition, and didn't allow time for things to go wrong as they tend to do. He was always under tremendous pressure. Most of it by commitments he made. If he missed commitments those people came at him with a vengeance. Boyd was always good to me and I saw many many times he was relaxed and treated everyone around with respect and smiles. I love my cousin Jo. She is a real sweetheart and has had some real rough patches in life!!! I'm not going to get into any rumors or the Foose thing as I don't have the full story straight from the people directly involved. Wishing everyone smooth roads and a full tank!
Boyd like many got his fame at the expense of others, the difference with Boyd was he never gave credit to anyone who MADE him. Then add on he was an arrogant personality and made it a point to be noticed. He was his own worst enemy, It was all about him and what he wanted evidence by his marriage. The only good thing he did for the industry was his show, it gave exposure to the people who were making him successful and they moved on to become legends on their own.
I Know someone who witnessed Boyd getting his motorhome stuck at the salt flats and since he was such an A-Hole, no one would help him get it out.
Not to mention he was in an area that was prohibited from the start and he was well aware of it.
Nice! 😂
I remember reading that article, wasn't it his wife that got the motor home stuck? They were told NOT to take it where they did, they drove it anyway....it was a huge tow bill
@@michaelguinn5736 yes with Boyd there as well .. then they tried to get it out themselves and made such a big mess instead of calling for professional assistance they caused even more environmental damage. Then they still had to call for a commercial tow. There was a half page write up in hot rod magazine ...pics and all and they were even critical of that whole family and specifically mentioned....hot rodders and racers are there as a privilege and when one person or in this case a well known car builder knows better is warned and does that type of environmental damage this jeopardizes everyones ability to use the salt flats....and certainly gives car people a bloody lip
What went wrong? He opened his mouth!
I watched the hell out of that show. Boyd was a talented prick. He'd had supervisors that were draconian areseholes pick on his very talented and creative workers. They bullied the workers so much that they all had to quit from working under those hostile conditions. He got what he deserved......
I used to watch the show but I would get very frustrated at him. I used to like to see how the cars were built but he would always take some projects that didn't have enough time to complete. So he expected his workers to work overtime and weekends. That was so inconsiderate of him to always keep doing that.
What went wrong? He grew too fast and started believing his press releases. He was good at what he did. He was bad with people. I mean, he hired Duane. Downhill from there
Simple answer, Boyd was a dick,and the shop manager Duane created more problems than he solved. Lots of talent passed through the shop and went on to better things without the drama!
Very true, I couldn't stand Duane and his crappy phrase, " I was getting alittle frustrated", he said that every time someone didn't kneel to him basically.
Duane was divorced with 2 kids. I imagine his wife couldn't stand him either.
Good point that drama was likely what got them the show over others the network was looking at, not being superior.
How Duane didn't get his dumpy ass kicked. Is a mystery
@@dannyfrog It's disturbing to know he reproduced.
He did one of the worst thing I had seen on TV when he took a pristine early Model T that was in near perfect running condition, and chopped it into a rod. He also allowed bullies (Blue Bear) for one, to run amuck in the shop.
I learned a long time ago, any restored or custom car takes as long as it takes. Do it right, do it the way you want and to hell with how long it takes. It's finished the way you want it AND most times it lasts longer. Employers that push to finish just to make a buck, are NOT the people skilled labor should work for.
Actually I'm kinda glad the car I just built took like 3yrs and 1200+ hours.
Sure im slow , the hours totaled up to time at the shop and probably 1/4 of em are standing there drooling and looking what to do next so it's not in the way later on.
Did it all with my own 2 hands , and dad would help to install a large part but other than that it was me.
Feels good , but I'll never build one that in depth again 😂
The only thing I give that SOB credit for is creating Hot Rods for the Rich and Famous. Taking it out of the hands of the guys and gals with dirt under their nails.
Coddington seemed to be one of those people who thought he could treat people however he wanted because he won awards and people would call him a “genius” in his field. Usually you see that behavior in actors and musicians rather than mechanics.
😁
I had custom offset Boyd's on my 1988 IROC which allowed me to run 315s inside the rear fenders, even lowered a bit, with racing suspension in the early 90s 295s in the front. I was pro-tour before it existed. Six-point cage, subframe connectors, Schroth harness, T-56 6-speed swap, a first ever, SC 383 Vortech, etc.
I hated to see the way that Boyd and his evil twin Duane treated their employees. Compared to the way that Chip Foose and Dave Kindig treat their employees. Not speaking ill of the dead here, just stating the facts as I see them.
Absolutely correct!
American Hot Rod started losing it's following because of the way Boyd treated Charlie when Charlie asked for a few days off because he had been asked to paint a Riddler Award entry, I believe it was by Chip Foose. Even if I'm wrong, Boyd basically told Charlie if he did it then he was a traitor and he would be fired. As much as it pained Charlie to go against Boyd, this was to big an opportunity for Charlie to increase his reputation in the industry to pass up, and it turned out to be the right decision for him and it turned a lot of the show's fanbase away from Boyd.
Is that the episode where Diane was crying, "But why Chiiiiiiiiiiiiiiip?" and looked like she was going to break down? Any decent management staff would have congratulated him on the opportunity and said, "Don't forget to drop by when you have your own shop."
My dad owns the 1932 Ford Boyd Coddington Barret-Jackson Roadster. There are some interesting stories behind this auction item.
It sure was hard to watch the way Boyd treated the employees at the shop.
Do tell...
@@jamesgullo8240 The vehicle required the "finishing touches" after the auction. Buyer knowing financial situation of said shop at time, refused to return vehicle to seller's shop. Buyer required sellers mechanics travel to buyers location to complete. Somethin' about possession is nine tenths of the law.
@@huh4233 Thanks for the reply!
Coddington was just one of many. He didn't create anything new or definitive.
The general consensus is that he was not a very personable guy and he had a reputation for being less than generous with praise for his employees.
He had his day.
With the size of Boyd and Dwayne's ego's I'm surprised there was any room left in the shop for hot rods or the talented staff they treated like sh!t!
Boyd Coddington was a DB. His success was a lot due to the talent working for him. He was a drama king.
Boyd is a clown .. he had a load of craftsman working for him and they all left
Id go with Boyd Coddington being an enormous tool
I remember the episode where they took on a young woman mechanic - and Boyd's wife was as jealous as fck that she was younger and better looking - and got her fired within a fortnight.
Yeah, really nice people - NOT.
I remember that too. "She gave me attitude!!" - Karen-wife Jo. And they shorted her godd*mn pay on her last check. Crooks!
Barris was/is the king!
He hired talent as well. Look up Korkys Kustoms.
WAS the king, he ruined the first fast and furious cars with crappy mods once they were in his museum, dude lost touch with customizing modern cars
Barris was the king of self-promotion.
The only thing wrong with American Hot Rod was Boyd Coddington”
The skilled talented employees of any business, are the business! If you can remember that, you will be very successful in your business ventures!
Boyd was a bully and Duane was a weasel. It was a lot of good people like Charlie Hutton, Mike Curtis, and Chip Foose who actually built the business and gave it fame. Some of the cars like the Aluma Tub were not even built by Codington. It was amazing how many of his cars ended up at Barrett Jackson within months of being built.
Blue Bear should have boxed the frame!
Liked Roy Allen Schmidt (1941-2005), reminded me of my Grandfather........close to the metal, fabricating and enjoying every minute of it. Not afraid to tell you the truth.
That Duane Mayer guy was over his head to be shop manager. ........How many fires? 4 or many?
One shop employee wises up ahead of time.....decides to move on and starts packing his stuff up and Duane shows up (probably to fire him). The guy just ignores Duane packs up his stuff and drives off.
Is that the guy that works for Jay Leno now?
Will always remember Duane bitching that Roy wasn't keeping up with his work.
Three weeks later the man died of cancer!!!
He showed up and did his job, and asshole Duane kicks him while he's down.
R.I.P. Roy, you are missed🙏
Excellent,your video just keep getting better & better All my favorites
Highly entertaining show with interesting personalities, when the reality genre was just taking off and still had some authenticity.
Watched the show and came away knowing I couldn’t work for Boyd or Duane treated there staff like indentured servants.
I interviewed with Boyd Coddington when I was in college at WyoTech in 2000-2002. He was absolutely the rudest person I have ever met and told all of us we were waisting our time in the business and then proceeded to offer me a position if I "forgot everything I had learned and wasted my tuition on". Needless to say I declined his offer.
That sounds exactly like Boyd.
"Blue Bear" was my favorite...
I had a phone conversation with Boyd about a project I was having a problem with, and he took the time to offer a few solutions. The man was a gentleman, in my eyes!
Congratulations! You’re the one single post with anything positive to say about him out of 10 kajillion…
Best thing Charlie ever did was leave, he deserved so much more from Boyd but the treat him like shit and thought he would stay for ever just because he put him up in his house. When in fact he left his wife and family every week to travel hundreds of miles to work there.
So true
Chip Foose was his downfall. He was obsessed with how he was doing. But dying really caused him a problem !!!
The pressure of the building timelines for the show content caused the emoloyee and ownership issues. Before the show there was no short timeline to create these hot rods for its customers and these buyers were willing to wait what Im sure was a very lenghthy waiting period for the final product.
I stopped believing in those timelines very shortly after starting to watch the show. You constantly saw cars in the background that were the subject of other "two week" timelines. And they were built for other shows, public unveilings, etc.
Regardless of personality I still use one of Duane’s quotes a lot. “There’s never enough time to do things around here right the first time, but there’s always enough time to do them twice”.
Looks like a young Dennis Gage (my classic car) with Boyd.....
That's Dennis. I also couldn't help but notice how much weight Boyd had gained....compared to how he looked in the show. Certainly did not look healthy in his later years.
The OG ' THE DEADLINE IS COMING AND WE"VE JUST FOUND OUT THE PART DOESNT FIT' show.
While Coddington was good the REAL Grandaddy of hot rods and customization was Chuck Barris. The best, hands down!
Well no, it was Sam that did most of the designing and metal work.
Actually, Chuck created the Gong Show. George and Sam created the custom car.
Not Chuck Barris. Chuck Norris maybe?
@@MrJeffRomm Chuck was a CIA agent or so he said.
How can you file for personal bankruptcy while also getting to keep a $150.000 Ferrari?
One thing that Boyd did that got me going was during the build of "Crazy Horse" where he brought in a Marine Sergeant to treat his guys like they were in boot camp because he felt that they didn't have the attitude to work as a team.
1) They were beat working long hours.
2) They were human beings who like the rest of us have their limits physically, mentally and emotionally.
3) With the exception of his little ass kisser Dwayne, Boyd's ego, greed, and rush to get projects done in a short amount time were too much for them to take.
Man, that show was hard to watch. Lee slowly but surely becoming Roy's buddy was maybe the one storyline I enjoyed.
Roy was one of the biggest highlights of the show and probably the main reason to watch. When he passed, it was hard to watch the show anymore.
@@Pressedsteelcustomsllc When Roy died, Boyd ALMOST seemed human.
Roy and Lee were a great Combo! When Roy died the look on Lee's face was heartbreaking. The show was less fun and more drama after that building up to employees getting fired one after another. I can't recall anyone leaving on good terms.
@@michaellucas7882 I have heard Roy told his family to give all his tools and box to Lee. Great story as initially Roy could barely put up with him. They grew on each other and you could tell Roy actually really cared about him.
Ego is what kills most of these shows.
Just like OCC, people can stand only so much BS. Coddington was an A-hole to the extreme. His on air of screwing over Chip was the end of Coddington for almost every viewer.
OCC got high on their own supply. After the show ended the old man moved the shop and show room near where the I-84 and Thruway cross. Big gawdy place that didn't last. Cody Connelly and Vinnie got treated like crap. The bike that Cody was gifted was taken back. He ended up suing them for getting the short end on all kinds of things. Vinnie has a general repair shop for cars and trucks. Everyone on show sued the old man from the looks of it. Jr isn't as bad, but he's no angel.
Was Boyd actually a designer? Or did he just manage to have a talented team under him at times?
We can all leave a legacy of who we were in life......the comments here show his legacy.
Boyd's also had car title issues when he got caught up in the Cobra repli-car (kit car) title issues in regards to bogus car title years to avoid taxes, insurance costs, and emissions requirements. He had to do a public service announcement to talk about this as part of his conviction.
Before the show aired I respected Boyd, and figured must have had talent to rise to where he did in the business. But I lost that respect for him because if he did have talent, he never demonstrated any of it on the show and just acted like a narcissist. You never saw him in the shop working with his crew, he was always sitting in his office in his stupid Hawaiian shirts stuffing candy in his face. And all Duane did was make me think about how much I would have hated working at a place like that. The truly talented workers found their way out and achieved success.
Boyd was a horrible businessman and a complete jerk. "His" work was mostly the vision and work of other people, hired by him in the pursuit of his own brand. At one point he even lost the rights to commercial use of his own name. I had a friend (now passed) who met him at a show once. Boyd blocked him into a parking space. When asked if he could please move his car to let the other driver out his response was "do you have any idea who the fk I am?"
Yea because people that get blocked in always are so polite, lolol. I have a funny felling it didn't go down exactly like your third hand info is presented.
@@mitch_the_-itch I left out the part where my friend told Boyd he knew who he was...a guy who was going to have his car keyed if he didn't move it. Surely you didn't think Coddington was going to get a polite response after being an obnoxious, condescending a-hole.
@@johnbarker5009 No I would not have assumed that either. Having been alive for a long time Ive realized both assholes involved usually think they don't stink ;)
@@mitch_the_-itch sure, because you'd just slink away when some jerk rips into you for asking a reasonable question. Be gone troll, I'm done with you.
I thought the show was about how Boyd became a business dictator, hired a mouthy arrogant Forman, got his deadlines to short, and refused to work with any other hot rod shops.
In short, a film about Donald Trump with fans wheels.
Not the complete past history of drag racing and hot rods!
TMI FOOL!
"the Boyd look, in which everything was shaved with no handles and hinges". Literally every car shown has visible door hinges, even the drawings. 😆
You did not have ti watch long to figure out just how fake everything was
They would build some car for some theoretical "customer" always get it done at the very last minute deliver it to the customer, sometimes make big deal out of it like taking that Mustang to Indy only to see a few episodes later that same car among others sitting in the shop in the background
If I'm not mistaken, Cadzilla was designed by Chip Foose and not Boyd. The reason his shop suffered is because Chip left.
To piss Boyd off even more some of his own employees quit and went to work for Chip!
@@glennoropeza3545 because they knew he was a prick to work for ,and that move is the only thing he would understand.
I heard some cars were actually designed by Foose who had left designs behind after the split
Most of the famous rides from his shop were Foose designs. Both the "Boydsters" were designed by Chip.
Cadzilla was designed by Larry Erickson, design engineer for Cadillac. It was built by Craig Naff, a strong sheet metal fabricator from Virginia.
I watched till the end.
I loved this show, even not being a huge Hot Rod fan.
And yes, I watched till the end 😝
The show was a strange brew of ex-wife keeping the books, the current wife and the put-upon crew. Boyd would guilt-shame them if they asked for time off from the ridiculous, fake schedule...
All those type of show on Discovery were the same format , always about a tight fake schedule
Yup. Car needs to be finished in the next 45 minutes.
Lol he definitely traded in the old one for a newer trophy model.
Lil' John, #1.
Duane Mayer killed the fun of watching.
I wonder what ever happened to that guy. He really thought that he was special.
@@kyle381000 He got so drunk, he fell out of his car while it was traveling 25mph and it crashed and he was sent to the hospital. This was back in 2016.
Never saw the point of Mayer,' is only talent seemed to be being a total arsehole
Duane was a first class knob
@@DarksouIjah Sounds like a real genius!!
Boyd was my first taste of Hotrods and living the England there wasn’t much to see so I use to watch every time it was on love it, Watched til the end