10 Best New & Updated Adventure Motorcycles For 2023!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 มิ.ย. 2024
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We as riders have to come together and commit to not giving KTM a single cent of our money until they get rid of their demo modes. If we don't, other companies will absolutely follow suit once they see they can get away with it.
The KTM demo mode is bs. I would definitely skip KTM for that reason
yeah but i have a better idea above.
I don't actually mind demo mode or electronically unlocked things. It's subscription that I'll never pay for.
No you wouldn’t, if you really wanted one you would just pay for the tech pack and ride off,,,
Yep, no KTM. WE ALL NEED TO BOYCOTT ANY COMPANY THAT DOES THIS.
Totally agree. They built the bike with the features. I buy the bike. It’s mine. Not theirs to take away later and make me pay more to get them back.
One thing I love about being Dyslexic is I’m gonna keep calling it the translap
I'm never calling anything else now, forever.
The issue with demo mode, as I see it, is if I bought one, I'd be paying for the hardware. I really doubt KTM is taking a loss on that hardware even if I don't opt to pay for activation.
ADV’s are quickly becoming the motorcycle version of SUV’s that never see dirt or gravel.
Already they are becoming clones of one another.
Good analogy
Most ADVs are actually capable of offroading and the ADV concept does offer better wind protection and comfort than e.g. a sport tourer. ADVs also don't consume more fuel unlike many SUVs. The BMW R1250 GS and R Roadster have the same fuel economy of 4,75l/100km. My dad owned a R100 GS and he loved it. Thanks to him I tried out ADVs instead of just going with the (admittedly) cooler looking sportbikes. The point of these bikes becoming clones of one another is only true for the middle class bikes because price pressure is so high that Manufacturers can't let their imagination flow. No crazy engines or chassis. These times are over.
So? Maybe the buyer won't, but the owners after the original will. Also, there are many urban situations that require ADV performance that do not apply to SUVs, such as going down trails along railroad tracks, jumping curbs and other obstructions, checking out a little path along a river, etc. There are many cases for a bike that are 99/1 on/off, but that 1 is essential. The modern ADV is just an all purpose do-it-all bike fairly similar to the average 70s bike. The difference today is that everything is becoming specialized, and really, the ADV is just the non specialized of the lot. ADV bikes are just the average bike. They're not the specialized sport bike, nor the specialized tourer, nor the specialized dirt bike, they are just the average do-it-all go-anywhere general purpose bike, and I hope things like the TransAlp, 800DE, and F850GS sell like hotcakes and flood the market. These are bikes I've been waiting for for years: midsize twins that do not restrict where I want to go: far or near, on or off. That is what I call a proper motorcycle.
You say that like it's a bad thing. What is better for long distance touring than an SUV?
@@JayBee-cr8jma wagon.
Someone will definitely come up with some workaround to disable the demo mode
The unlock thing for the KTM´s is a total dealbreaker for me
But in general all the electronic gizmos do in my mind set some bikes back. the more electronics the more can go wrong in the middle of nowhere.
Touring into Farawayistan reliability is king!
For me: v-strom 800DE. Not too big, not too small, more versatile, not too expensive as well.
Better than transalp?
Ktm already have a shoddy reliability .. coupled with CF moto who is a fairly new automotive company raises concerns .. I had ktm 390 duke .. it had so many issues like oil leak , chasis bend , engine knocking in second gear etc. If priced well in india I'll definitely go to Honda or Suzuki this time around..
Reliability used to be an issue with KTm but since the 10/11/1290 Series of Adventures things got a lot better.
KTM was ruined by bajaj and now its triumph turn to get beaten
Ktm has bn Proven Sh*t since inception.. bajaj can barely add to it
I also had a 390 ... damn i had some electronic issues with that piece of ***
NICE! been waiting for you to upload ADV!
Love your contents everytime bro! 👌
Would like to see your test and evaluation of the new Ducati Desert X (with the 937cc, 2 cylinder engine) and how you rate it compared to the T7 World Raid and KTM 790/890 + R models, since they are the middleweights and pricing is close. Thx!
Should say the best adventure bikes on paper that I’ve never ridden nor know if that they’re going to be the “best”
That MV looks amazing
I worked for Malaysian Chinese company and had projects tendered to and won by Chinese companies. The thing you have to watch is that they will lowball a bid to win a contract with stated technical specs and then if you don’t watch them like a hawk they will try to cut corners to claw their way back up the money tree.
Super concerning when i see how many china bikes coming in. The prices are borderline to the japanese counterparts but the catch of unknown reliability.
hearing about what ktm did to disable those features makes me want to buy that bike and get them working WITHOUT paying ktm, and then tell them.
I bought a 2020 KTM 790 Adventure S in 2020. I was a little torqued that they came out with the 890 the next year because it made me think my bike was just less. It's funny to me that they're making the 790 again. Perhaps the 790 (actually 800) is the sweet spot. I did pay for the Rally mode (which I don't care for - too abrupt), quick shifter, cruise control and got heated grips. I got them one at a time. The advantage was that the out the door price was about $1,000 less than it would have been had they all been there (I guess). The KTM regularly gets between 55 and 60 MPG and will go about 130 MPH in stock gearing which is way more than enough for me. The tank under the engine thing really does make it fun off road where I've got about 4,000 miles so far with another 5,000 on asphalt.
Honda Africa for me if you are seriously touring with off-road also
My next adventure bike will NOT have a subscription based feature attached to it! Unless it’s mileage based and modestly priced with free updates…but I will work to avoid it 1st. Because it will lower resale value as well.
The first contender they’ve never ridden. Great video. Get back to me after you’ve ridden them.
If the transalp got a DCT, tubeless wheels it would have been a top seller ADV but Honda would never make it this way otherwise the more heavy,pricy Africa twin will be out of the window
That ducatti desert x is a monsters
Very interesting thank you
That's how life should be if you ride a bike, it matters not one jot , what walk of life your from
It's a pity some people turn their nose up at others,
Great video,
Damn some bikes aren’t even out and they are the “best” for 2023 must be able to see the future
Yea bro something are just like that like iphone 15 pros next year will be the best so will be samsung s23 new Porsche new Ferrari
Was thinking the same thing anything to read out some specs he hasn’t even chucked his leg over most of these 😂
I would swerve any brand which wants you to pay/subscribe to things which are already fitted!!!
Seen the KTM lineup but Did not see the CFMoto 800 adventure here 😮. Sure it would’ve not been number 1 or two.. but for some on a budget, its a solid choice.
I prefer reliability over KTM and your paying a premium!
Demo mode is a rip off selling bikes like a DLC of a game a bit of a rubbish in my opinion.
Ducati comes with everything equipped. Look at the price tag of those bikes. Engineering ain't cheap.
No way will I be buying a KTM once I found this out. If they are successful in this scam this will become the standard. Absolutely unforgivable that the assholes on their board thought this was acceptable customer service.
I would really like to see (I know it's not easy) reviews regarding the durability and resistance of these bikes on long trips. We always have evaluations about performance, torque, electronics etc. etc. but we never find anything about fatigue, breaks, durability, percentage of breaks (fracture) and defects, electronic breakdowns etc etc. As a Tiger user for over 8 years and thousands and thousands of kilometers on many adventures throughout South America and the Amazon, I can guarantee that the Tiger is indestructible, giving you a lot of security and peace of mind that you will leave and return with the same bike. I see many "" bizarre "" reports and stories regarding the fragility of certain brands that compete with Triumph. I'm afraid to deal with a specific brand. Please, where are the evaluations about durability, resistance, or is this not important for someone who is going to make a trip of 12,000 km?
Thanks! KTM, Why should I pay for modes on aBike I bought that has those features in the first place?....
I am more than happy with my very light adventure Kawasaki KLX. It weighs 140kg and has an 18-litre tank.
These reviews as the BEST bike is so subjective. BEST means many things to many people..
No tuareg 660! thats odd! probably the most capable adventure bike. On and off road ready!
Agree 110%
This video is a commercial
Just spend the money and get the features from the get go. I have the 2021 890 Adventure R with the Tech Pack and the features are a must. If its over your budget buy the Tenere or the TransAlp
All nice bikes and all that technology yet we still have to adjust the valves maybe it’s me but all these new motorcycle should have self adjustable valves by now.
Cardo is a great product but in my experience 'a mile between each' in practice is not realistic on both the Packtalk Bold and the Edge, other than that they are the best of the best
I've gotten 1 mile +, but thats only when using them while skydiving...... range deff goes down on the road when there's stuff between riders
Great video! It is interesting that none of the bikes are shaft drive. I wonder why? There needs to be more shaft options. Second, I am surprised Triumph is not in here some how. I do like the MV Lucky for some reason. Which Mid Adventure would you recommend for mostly street riding? Any of these or others? Have you tested the MV yet?
Whosever aim for the transalp add a couple thousand and get a base model Africa twin with tons of technology, DCT, 6 axis IMU,more HP, adjustable suspension
This video is funny mate when you didn't talk about the BMW GS
Nice
Get the ktm and have the options permanently hacked and modded in at a tuner?
i thought for sure he was saving number one spot for the klr dang.
Every company is now looking to shove operating costs into everything. It started with software that you can no longer acquire, but you need to rent.
Car manufacturers are also getting creative with features that you will need to pick and pay monthly to activate. Such as seat warming? seriously? purchasing a car will be as obscure as a plane ticket. You will get a base price, and you will need to pay add-ons monthly for features that used to be included before. Such as seat and steering heating.
We should expect the concept to migrate to motorbikes too. KTM marketing team is testing the waters by making a one time sell of additional features; in the future, you can expect to pay monthly.
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Hasn't CFmoto been making engines for KTM for a few years?
If you don't like demo modes or subscriptions (which I absolutely hate), stay away from Zero, they are the King of advertising features without telling you they don't come with the bike. you get to learn it after you've purchased the bike.
Wot the best one for touring the world
I decided not to buy a KTM 1290 because I refuse to pay extra to open up software - its a rip off. That would have been my third SuperDuke R.
@@cowmath77 I had the very first 990 R model, which I traded for a new 1290 R in 2015 and subsequently sold in 2020. Went into the local dealer looking for a new bike and was told about the £1,000 to unlock all the extras and tried a Ducati V2 instead….
Hi bob, what about the Aprilia Tuareg??
It's not new or updated in 2023
What backpack is that @6:27?
Hey my TH-cam friend, No mention of the BMW GS ? Did I miss something ? Or is that a different category, or not a channel supporter 😆. Just kidding.
This is best new & update bud. No updates to the GS range this year although looks like a new one next year 👍
Wish the KTM 790 would come to the States. Please KTM!
KTM can go and do one. This is a bike not an app with in app purchases!
I am not a fan of all this fancy tech and riding modes on modern bikes. Especially adventure bikes.
Who will fix it in the middle of nowhere?
I'll keep my no frills air cooled 1200GS for the time being...
Why didn't you add the Aprilia Tuareg 660?
I was wondering the same thing-- seems like it has some well-deserved praise from almost everyone else.
The new 2023 KTM 390 ADV SW
I just don't understand why all the bikes do not have apple car play and android auto... I think the African twin is the only one?
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BMW models in the next review or they left all positions world market?
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Ktm for sub system it is what it is hahaha
where’s the #2 bike ?
you have two number fours.
MV AGUSTA AND THE DUCATI
am i not understanding something?
the price is double in Vietnam
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Nibe but nothing about the Multistrada V2 ?
Not chocked by the demo mode - we are paying for software all the time, why not here?
Finally...The new Suzuki V-Storm look very much like the old Suzuki DR800...I had one....an unbreakable tank of a bike....hope this one cand match that reputation.
No love for the GS?
I had to say, though, even though the whole unlocking BS thing, KTM has a better chassis and one of the major things that everybody talks about how the Tennery is that super top-heavy to penis that seems like a really bad idea to me
Moto Guzzi V85TT.
I think u forgot the BMW trophy
Second bike they’ve never ridden.
I think the electronic demo mode is stupid and f*ck**g heartless. How about after the demo mode has finished we hand back the handle bars and wheels instead?
Why did you not include kawasaki Versys 1000 or 650 its also perfect for adventure or touring!....:(....:(
Guarantee that ALL of them are too tall for my 30ish inseam. Yarn. Oh well, I just go back to BMW, which has mfg option for lowest seat height just below 31 inch.
I’m buying my first adv bike later this year, and KTM was my first pick until I heard about the demo BS! They are officially OFF my list. I refuse to give someone my $$$ who does business that way.
Loads of low end, just what does that mean. How about posting the torque at RPM so we really know. My 800GS has no low end power. Compression stall are common at low RPM. I need a better motor.
Too big, too high, too heavy...great on the bitumen.
stuart Yes, they are just marketing ploys to sell us shit we don't need. Bigger, heavier, shit off road unless you're a enduro champion and expensive to repair when you drop it.
@@SMHman666 haha. Yep. Even the term adventure bike pisses me off...the same as bagger, bobber, etc. Angry old man coming out! Haha. Im no dirt rider, but Ive had trail bikes...when the terrain gets nasty, mud sand etc the key to it all is light weight....thats the way I see it...
4 3 4 1 bro
The Zero is a non starter
It certainly ain't going very far until it stops....
I was a big KTM fan but this demo mode has caused me to abandon ship.
So, the GS doesn't even rank?
"Softens up the damping to make the bike easier to pick up." You kill me. If the shocks aren't moving, there's nothing to damp. Tell me, at what rpm does the low down torque become high up power? You too funny.
That demo riding mode situation is bad business. It’s on the bike then they shut it off at 1,500 miles and then want to charge to turn it back on? Screw ‘em.
V strom the best
No chance I’d buy a CF Moro rebranded as a KTM.
What was ktm thinking
I have MZ TROPHY 150CCM FROM 1972 FINDE THE FOTO MAKINA IS EXTRA IN FULL
Where is the GS 1300 or 1250
jaw drop...KTM
Team Suzuki ❤
I hope it’s better than the 1090 as mine is crap quality and for one will not be buying another KTM product and I suggest anyone considering a KTM check it out very carefully
As a real rider I hate traction control I hate it in 4x4 if you can’t ride a bike off road without traction control you probably should ride off-road just when you need power it cuts it and I’m always seeing people that brick is in the shop right now the electrical is having problem 🤷♂️
My dream is to own a bike like this Who can help me, friends?
Not to defend ktm's demo mode but these are features that now come with the bike rather than add ons. It makes production cheaper and if base price doesn't increase nobody is loosing out. I hate the idea of charges but I feel like this is barely ok.
Then increase the price of the bike to reflect the product. If you can't compete with others on price you deserve to lose. Instead they basically use the earlier dlc model of videogames. Which the videogame industry itself had to stop.
@@bulthaosen1169 So then people who don't want the extras have to pay more. If the price isn't increasing these extras are just stuff I could activate later if I wanted to. As long as the price doesn't increase I'm not losing anything and I get to see if I actually want these features.
@@roblogic6823 exactly. That is my point. Increase the price or just give tge features. If they can make profit without the extras then they don't have the right to charge more when you already made that profit by selling me that product but sabotaging it.
They already made profit. But the product has been sabotaged from the company so that you pay more to fix it. That's doubling profit on a single item by charging you multiple times and making profit on every single one of those transactions.
But the price has increased significantly.
How do you know that these are the best and you haven’t tested most of it? Hmmm🤔
KTM probably assembled in China to keep costs down.
Look at Ford assembly of Mach e in Mexico. GM’s many engines assembled in Mexico to keep costs down
Aprilia Tuareg? 🤔🤔🤔