Che straordinaria esecuzione della Pastorale...chi potrebbe criticarla per essere troppo lenta ? Ogni voce dell'orchestra è così chiara...questa è la giusta colonna sonora di un immenso affresco della natura...composta in uno dei pochi momenti sereni del grande Beethoven...pensare che viene dopo la 5a...
Storica esecuzione di alto respiro,tempi dilatati ma tutto scorre magnificamente e ci si sente come avvolti in una grande unità,partecipi di un evento straordinario.
Sooooo touching... Just imagine how many obstacles maestro had to overcome to return to the podium and how much strength it took to make such beautifully sacred music... Many thanks!!
thank you for posting this majestic performance, Agree he makes the slow pace really work and the orchestral colours and shadings really come across so clearly and distinctly.
Sorry, but in this performance the maestro falls almost asleep. Listen to the pacing he used in earlier years :-) : th-cam.com/video/FHkHOq-sa3U/w-d-xo.html The linked version is my alltime favourite by the way. I'm owning almost all "great" cycles since. But Klemperer's was my first, which I grew up with. And I immediately fell in love with his Pastoral. Up to the day! :-) Just listen, how lively, vivid and animating he played 1957. And listen to the sound quality either. Hello? 1957! Isn't that amazing? :-)
+Keith. Pierson Absolutely agree! I saw the televised Ninth at school as a 13 year old and wondered why Dr Klemperer sat to conduct.I was luck to see him conduct' Cosi' 1971. Great to view the 11970 Beethoven Cycle on You tube!
Klemperer never suffered a stroke. He was operated on, in 1939, for a brain tumor. Although it saved his life, the surgery resulted in partial paralysis on the right side of his body and badly affected his ability to speak.
I thought there was a stroke. But imagine brain surgery in that year, he survived and lived on. There was a story I once saw about smoking his pipe in London apartment and there was a fire. I just listened to the second act of Fidelio - the live recording from Covent Garden. Someone in the audience screaming QUIET when he began the Leonora III.
Burns from that fire nearly killed him. He was on IR for about a year. A scheduled performance of Tristan at the Metropolitan Opera had to be cancelled.
YO creo q la de KARL BOHM TIENE UN PRIMER TIEMPO MAS LIRICO Y UNA TEMPESTAT MUCHO MAS DRAMATICA.PERO ESTA TAMBIEN EN SU CONJUNTO ESTA MUY BIEN INTERPRETADA ES UNA OPINION MUY PERSONAL
His earlier recording of this from the 1950s is a little faster, and one of my favorite recordings. This performance is good, though, and shows the great clarity and phrasing that Klemperer always exhibits.
Excellent! Old school. Please note that Mr. Klemperer managed to perform in 1959 one of the first stereo recordings on this oeuvre, a technical milestone still hard to be surpassed.
@@MrKlemps well: in the beginning stereo was a bit of a gimmick and for such a recording the performers would have been bossed about a lot by the technicians so it isn’t surprising that Maestro got a bit tetchy !
I believe there is another of this performance on TH-cam is there not? Is the audio on this of a better quality? I think it is. Love this performance. I read when just a few people complain about the 6th when it is played to "slow".....I just love it when it is played in this "slower" manner.
How to explain to an elderly director, who directs sitting down due to his physical difficulties, including semi-paralysis, with an artistic and working life that was several times eventful and unfortunate, both due to difficulties and temperament, who only became "successful" after turning 65, the age in which which almost everyone else thinks is finished, how to measure reflective greatness and spiritual clarity to provide an introspection on art and the human condition, pessimistic, but belied by an almost infinite constructive vigor, a finding the work where truth beats . That's this "Pastoral" by Beethoven built by Otto Klemperer and the equally audacius members of his band, the adecuate New Philharmonia.
Sometimes I _like_ it slow, as the actress said to the bishop. Anyway, just for the record I can say that this concert was in 1970, when Klemperer was 85 years old. It seems to be the final audiovisual recording of him in a public concert.
Philo Bregstein's documentary shows rehearsals for. and the performance of, the 1st movement of the Brahms Third Symphony. It turned out to be K's final concert in September of 1971. He was then 86.
This version is quite slow, indeed, but monumental. For those who prefer a brisker tempo, go to Klemperer's studio recording (1957) . th-cam.com/video/0D0dJJRY0qU/w-d-xo.html
No empathy. No communication at all, and with anybody. Black and white radiography. Quite psycho. But the music ....... a cold recitative of a calm current of sheer beauty. Until today, unequaled.
This version is glorious!! After this slow (correct) tempo, almost every other interpretation feels rushed, almost unbearable. Also listen to Furtwangler 1954 with Berlin -very similar. FW still getting a little more magic out of this masterpiece, IMHO.
That has got to be the most lugubrious performance of this symphony that I have ever heard. Were the musicians kept awake for a week before they recorded? I have an earlier performance of this piece with Klemperer conducting that is cheerful and lively and full of life. This ain't it. Sorry.
Madame, all of Klemperer's recordings tend towards slow tempi: he concentrated solely on utmost clarity and musicianship. He had no time for anything showy and totally uncompromising about his speed.... this was told to me by a member of the viola section whom I knew. Walter Legge (founder of the Philharmonia) said exactly what you said at a rehersal of the 6th. Klemperer played it through again, and when he finished he shouted out to the back of the hall - Herr Legge, are you used to the tempo?" in his heavy German accent.
In 1939, Klemperer suffered a severe stroke after having had surgery to remove a brain tumor. The stroke left him partially paralyzed, particularly on the left side of his body, which affected his conducting for the rest of his life. He makes his "slow" tempi work - he maintains a tight ensemble, great energy and clarity of line, a brilliant sense of orchestral color, and forward motion.
thank you for this: my regret is that I never saw him conduct. The sound is solid, large, clear, as well as being able to hear everything that was written by the composer. We will not look upon his like again. He was a genius, if an irascible one at that.
Apart from the hemiplegia, the tumor being an acoustic schwannoma, Klemperer must have suffered progressive deafness on that side for years before being diagnosed, and almost certainly a complete deafness after surgery!!
@@Hermanhub What? Was Klemperer really deaf in one ear? A conductor needs to hear how the orchestra sounds a whole, It's hard to imagine someone half-deaf successfully conducting. I don't think so to be honest, he wouldn't be able to hear the balance between instruments.
Only too slow in the first? He is too slow in EVERY movement. Klemperer is one of my favorite conductors, but not for his Beethoven symphonies which I find generally way too slow and cumbersome. Agree with you in not liking this.
@@ewaldsteyn469 Perhaps. My measuring stick for K's tempi is whether or not the thing sounds as though it COULD go that way, on its plausibility, despite the consensus range of tempi. For me, this Pastorale passes the test. The 1970 finale of Symphony No. 7 really doesn't. Much of the Mahler 7th recording, especially the finale and the first movement, just sound wrong at those tempi. Ditto: his final go at the Mahler 2nd, again especially the finale. To buttress YOUR point, though, is to observe that K's Beethoven was at least a bit slower than consensus as early as the mid-1950's, at least in the recording studio, and that his Beethoven got "slow" before other composers did. The 1961 Brahms Requiem, for example, is faster than average, and his Vienna live performance in 1958, was almost disquietingly fast.
Che straordinaria esecuzione della Pastorale...chi potrebbe criticarla per essere troppo lenta ? Ogni voce dell'orchestra è così chiara...questa è la giusta colonna sonora di un immenso affresco della natura...composta in uno dei pochi momenti sereni del grande Beethoven...pensare che viene dopo la 5a...
Love Klemperer and the luxuriously slow tempo he takes in the first movement.
Storica esecuzione di alto respiro,tempi dilatati ma tutto scorre magnificamente e ci si sente come avvolti in una grande unità,partecipi di un evento straordinario.
GORGEOUS, SENSATIONAL PERFORMANCE!! ❤️❤️
Sooooo touching... Just imagine how many obstacles maestro had to overcome to return to the podium and how much strength it took to make such beautifully sacred music... Many thanks!!
klemperer and beethoven examples of overcoming adversity by love dedication sublime examples of the beauty and strength of the human spirit
Wow . ! Pastoral is wonderful . Share it with the world . X
This is so lovely, a leisurely pace of enjoyment, a slow gambol in the fields.
thank you for posting this majestic performance, Agree he makes the slow pace really work and the orchestral colours and shadings really come across so clearly and distinctly.
Sorry, but in this performance the maestro falls almost asleep. Listen to the pacing he used in earlier years :-) : th-cam.com/video/FHkHOq-sa3U/w-d-xo.html
The linked version is my alltime favourite by the way. I'm owning almost all "great" cycles since. But Klemperer's was my first, which I grew up with. And I immediately fell in love with his Pastoral. Up to the day! :-) Just listen, how lively, vivid and animating he played 1957. And listen to the sound quality either. Hello? 1957! Isn't that amazing? :-)
Wonderful. Makes me feel like I'm out in the country.
Such glorious music - Klemperer is brilliant and so moving. Post stroke and other health problems - WOW
Keith. Pierson Klemperer had a very slow tempo, and so romantic. I think it was a good choice for "pastoral"
+Keith. Pierson Absolutely agree! I saw the televised Ninth at school as a 13 year old and wondered why Dr Klemperer sat to conduct.I was luck to see him conduct' Cosi' 1971. Great to view the 11970 Beethoven Cycle on You tube!
Klemperer never suffered a stroke. He was operated on, in 1939, for a brain tumor. Although it saved his life, the surgery resulted in partial paralysis on the right side of his body and badly affected his ability to speak.
I thought there was a stroke. But imagine brain surgery in that year, he survived and lived on. There was a story I once saw about smoking his pipe in London apartment and there was a fire. I just listened to the second act of Fidelio - the live recording from Covent Garden. Someone in the audience screaming QUIET when he began the Leonora III.
Burns from that fire nearly killed him. He was on IR for about a year. A scheduled performance of Tristan at the Metropolitan Opera had to be cancelled.
The best of the best!
Inmenso, inmenso. Ya nadie interpreta así a Beethoven
YO creo q la de KARL BOHM TIENE UN PRIMER TIEMPO MAS LIRICO Y UNA TEMPESTAT MUCHO MAS DRAMATICA.PERO ESTA TAMBIEN EN SU CONJUNTO ESTA MUY BIEN INTERPRETADA ES UNA OPINION MUY PERSONAL
When, in the end, I could buy this CD, it was one of those days ...I never get tired of hearing it.
What vigorous sound!
Klemperer is always accentuated never smeary.
So happy to get the slower pastoral - kelly , dublin.
When I hear this.. I always remember that girl. My eternal love.
If you want to understand "love", just hear Beethoven.
La più affascinante Pastorale che ho mai sentito
His earlier recording of this from the 1950s is a little faster, and one of my favorite recordings. This performance is good, though, and shows the great clarity and phrasing that Klemperer always exhibits.
Se Beethoven criou essa maravilha, imagine o criador de Beethoven e sua orquestra celeste!
Excellent! Old school. Please note that Mr. Klemperer managed to perform in 1959 one of the first stereo recordings on this oeuvre, a technical milestone still hard to be surpassed.
principal flute of the Philharmonia, Garreth Morris, reports that Klemperer called stereo "an invention of the fakers"
@@MrKlemps well: in the beginning stereo was a bit of a gimmick and for such a recording the performers would have been bossed about a lot by the technicians so it isn’t surprising that Maestro got a bit tetchy !
Klemperer is a master. None other matches his interpretation of Beethoven's 6th.
Ever heard celibidache's 6th
Unfortunately not yet. The sound is appalling and I think manny, my teacher is leading. Going to look for furtwangler or fricsay
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Giulini-New Philarmonia and Kubelik-Orchestre de Paris are both great.
Mariss Janson's one is really really great, at the same level.
Otto Klemperer was a great conducter in his time, with Mahler and Beethoven.
GRANDE KLEMPERER !
very good
I believe there is another of this performance on TH-cam is there not? Is the audio on this of a better quality? I think it is. Love this performance. I read when just a few people complain about the 6th when it is played to "slow".....I just love it when it is played in this "slower" manner.
How to explain to an elderly director, who directs sitting down due to his physical difficulties, including semi-paralysis, with an artistic and working life that was several times eventful and unfortunate, both due to difficulties and temperament, who only became "successful" after turning 65, the age in which which almost everyone else thinks is finished, how to measure reflective greatness and spiritual clarity to provide an introspection on art and the human condition, pessimistic, but belied by an almost infinite constructive vigor, a finding the work where truth beats . That's this "Pastoral" by Beethoven built by Otto Klemperer and the equally audacius members of his band, the adecuate New Philharmonia.
Otto Klemperer outstanding German conductor related to me ...is a cousin of my Grandmother (Hamburg) Jenny Ephraim née Klemperer...
I - 00:10
II - 12:14
III - 26:53
4:35 the very strange impression that the conductor knows more about this music than the composer himself
The tempo is right. Anyone who spends a lot of time in the woods knows that.
I love this performance, but did anyone notice how suddenly Klemperer cut the final note?
What are you talking about? No way !
Esta pastoral es impresionante, PERO TAMBIEN HAY Q ESCUCHAR LA DE BOHM DE 1971 Q CREO Q ES UNA INTERPRETACION INIGULABLE
2.38 epic!!
Sigo diciendo, que mejores no hay
Yo creo personalmente q esta pastoral es muy buena PERO LA DE KARL BOHM DEL 1971 para mi es la mejor con el mejor primer tiempo y LA MEJOR TEMPESTAT
If there's a slower interpretation I'd like to know.
Sometimes I _like_ it slow, as the actress said to the bishop.
Anyway, just for the record I can say that this concert was in 1970, when Klemperer was 85 years old. It seems to be the final audiovisual recording of him in a public concert.
Philo Bregstein's documentary shows rehearsals for. and the performance of, the 1st movement of the Brahms Third Symphony. It turned out to be K's final concert in September of 1971. He was then 86.
This version is quite slow, indeed, but monumental. For those who prefer a brisker tempo, go to Klemperer's studio recording (1957) . th-cam.com/video/0D0dJJRY0qU/w-d-xo.html
actually, revise that to say he takes wonderfully slow tempi throughout.
No empathy. No communication at all, and with anybody. Black and white radiography. Quite psycho.
But the music ....... a cold recitative of a calm current of sheer beauty.
Until today, unequaled.
Sea of life!!!!!!!
From what year is this performance?
1970.
1970 in London's Royal Festival Hall.New Philharmonia orchestra.
This version is glorious!! After this slow (correct) tempo, almost every other interpretation feels rushed, almost unbearable.
Also listen to Furtwangler 1954 with Berlin -very similar. FW still getting a little more magic out of this masterpiece, IMHO.
Es de esas veces que se ha producido el milagro.
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That has got to be the most lugubrious performance of this symphony that I have ever heard. Were the musicians kept awake for a week before they recorded? I have an earlier performance of this piece with Klemperer conducting that is cheerful and lively and full of life. This ain't it. Sorry.
Madame, all of Klemperer's recordings tend towards slow tempi: he concentrated solely on utmost clarity and musicianship. He had no time for anything showy and totally uncompromising about his speed.... this was told to me by a member of the viola section whom I knew. Walter Legge (founder of the Philharmonia) said exactly what you said at a rehersal of the 6th. Klemperer played it through again, and when he finished he shouted out to the back of the hall - Herr Legge, are you used to the tempo?" in his heavy German accent.
In 1939, Klemperer suffered a severe stroke after having had surgery to remove a brain tumor. The stroke left him partially paralyzed, particularly on the left side of his body, which affected his conducting for the rest of his life. He makes his "slow" tempi work - he maintains a tight ensemble, great energy and clarity of line, a brilliant sense of orchestral color, and forward motion.
thank you for this: my regret is that I never saw him conduct. The sound is solid, large, clear, as well as being able to hear everything that was written by the composer. We will not look upon his like again. He was a genius, if an irascible one at that.
Apart from the hemiplegia, the tumor being an acoustic schwannoma, Klemperer must have suffered progressive deafness on that side for years before being diagnosed, and almost certainly a complete deafness after surgery!!
@@Hermanhub What? Was Klemperer really deaf in one ear? A conductor needs to hear how the orchestra sounds a whole, It's hard to imagine someone half-deaf successfully conducting. I don't think so to be honest, he wouldn't be able to hear the balance between instruments.
5:24 !! Her skirt is way too short!!! Damn feminists, they have invaded the traditional orchestras !! (jokinng)
Tempo is too slow in the first movement. Don't love it.
Laurie Ann Ximenez-Fyvie what? N.p.i
Only too slow in the first? He is too slow in EVERY movement. Klemperer is one of my favorite conductors, but not for his Beethoven symphonies which I find generally way too slow and cumbersome. Agree with you in not liking this.
@@ewaldsteyn469 Perhaps. My measuring stick for K's tempi is whether or not the thing sounds as though it COULD go that way, on its plausibility, despite the consensus range of tempi. For me, this Pastorale passes the test. The 1970 finale of Symphony No. 7 really doesn't. Much of the Mahler 7th recording, especially the finale and the first movement, just sound wrong at those tempi. Ditto: his final go at the Mahler 2nd, again especially the finale. To buttress YOUR point, though, is to observe that K's Beethoven was at least a bit slower than consensus as early as the mid-1950's, at least in the recording studio, and that his Beethoven got "slow" before other composers did. The 1961 Brahms Requiem, for example, is faster than average, and his Vienna live performance in 1958, was almost disquietingly fast.
Mahler's disciple
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