Curse spirit manipulation can be pushed to new levels with mahito, if he makes mahito use idle transfiguration on his cursed spirits geto could make amalgamated monsters, imagine using soul multiplicity on 100 grade 4 cursed spirits, geto can use all the disaster curses domains and it wouldn't effect him at all he could use idle transfiguration to combine all the disaster curses into one creating something beyond special grade, he could hide mahito and only bring him out to heal getos body through the soul, geto could have unlimited rct without using any ce and with rika he could use her unlimited ce to fuel the other cursed spirits cts and overall power as its confirmed kenjaku can empower his cursed spirits with ce
Gege said that Geto could combine and reassemble Curses in the fanbook but also said that there'd be no point in doing so because CSM is a lot harder to use on more powerful Cursed Spirits. IT would probably help lessen the difficulty though
@@dude5281 I gotchu. From pages 70-75 of the fanbook: "Can the Cursed Spirit Manipulation technique reassemble or combine cursed spirits?" Akutami: It can but there'd be no point in doing so because it's much more difficult to use the cursed technique on more powerful cursed spirits. It's better and more powerful to go for quantity hence, the Maximum Uzumaki. The Uzumaki actually has a side effect that can be unlocked when used but...we'll get to that soon.
Wait a min is gege saying combining the cursed spirits is fruitless because the stronger they get the more uncontrollable they become? But I don't see why this is an issue kenny could control special grade spirits with ease so why not fuse all the grade 1's and lower and just keep a stock of special grades basically limit your entire csm stock to say 30 special grades by fusing the thousands of weaker curses to form special grades , now you're basically a better 10 shadow user with 30 " shikigami like special grade spirits" at your disposal because unlike the ten shadows where some shikigamis are really weak and one trick ponys , you've 30 special grades standing beside you with dozens of different CTS at your disposal@@Flowermedal
Full potential of Limitless: (Assuming Six Eyes) Limitless Transportation: Maintain a Blue in front of you and a Red behind you in order to create a makeshift Alcubiere drive and move at the speed of light without breaking physics. Maximum: Zeno's Paradox: Expand the range of Infinity's inviolability to cover the immediate surrounding area, so there is an infinite distance between everything and any motion is therefore impossible except for your own. Basically stopping time in a limited radius. Overlap: Use Blue to overlap spaces together in order to achieve impossible trajectories and hit multiple targets at once. For instance, if you have a sword, you could overlap spaces so your sword swing passes through things that aren't linearly aligned, and do things like cut all the opponent's limbs off with a single stroke. You could also cause opponents' attacks to hit themselves by overlapping the space they're in with the one the attack is passing through. Cosmos: Firing a Blue with several small Reds orbiting around it from its pull, sort of resembling a model of the solar system. This would be good for attacks over a wide range and could be triggered into a remote Purple from a distance as the Reds collapse into the Blue. Blue - Whirlwind: Rapidly rotating Blue in order to turn its pull into a vortex or hurricane. Red - Landmine: Scattering small Reds that are sensitive to touch through an area, so that the opponent running into them will cause them to explode in a chain reaction. Possibly you could create a delayed Red beneath the ground to conceal it until it explodes when the opponent is on top of it. Red - Rapid Fire: Gojo never did this but he stated he can do multiple at once so he absolutely could fire out Reds like a gattling gun. Six Eyes - Overdrive: Inspired by Emperor Time from Hunter X Hunter. Using a binding vow, in exchange for sacrificing ten years of your life per minute of usage time, you boost the sharpness of The Six Eyes. This is so overpowered I don't even wanna speculate about what you could do with it, but one possibility is seeing the opponent's Cursed Energy so clearly you can predict their movements like precog, or maybe achieving Hakari-level regeneration with RCT efficiency. Assuming you're Gojo's age and your natural lifespan went to ninety you could only use this for six minutes total before dying, and that timer would not reset from one use to another.
@@dude5281 You mean with the sharpened Six Eyes right? Yeah, you'd probably be able to skip the handseals, although it might not be as powerful. It might end up the size of the one he used the first time against Toji (roughly basketball-width) rather than the larger one he used in the goodwill event (like, twenty metres wide).
@@dude5281 To get full power you need the handseals and the chant, and Gojo's teleportation with Blue has a separate handseal where he clasps them together. So I don't know if he could do it with his hands occupied. Maybe he could, but not over a great distance.
thing is with just cursed spirit manipulation its literally rng , say if he got rika he would be a monster , he got mahito that one time uzumaki would literally cause immense devastation , literally kenjaku started the culling games with it. lets not even mention the ten million cursed spirits , theres literally so much randomness involved the full potential will never be known , suguru geto himself isnt even a good example of what it could do due to the limited nature of volume zero and kenjaku himself has other techniques
The RCT of CSM could be to release curses, so the user could release a curse, fight it thus making it stronger and then reabsorve the curse. Also being able to fuse curses like Totality but as a consequence not being able to defuse them.
9:38 straight up evil💀 But its the best way to power up for cursed spirit manipulator. But still it's terrorism 💀🙏🙏 Bro's gonna farm curses like sheep and chiken 💀
9:37 the issue with this plan is Tengen's barriers. The barriers around Japan was designed to funnel cursed energy from around the globe into Japan, so all the energy you terrorize into existence would just get shipped to Japan.
I always thought Geto could automize the hell out of his capturing process. Let other sorcerers fight curses for you, when the curse is low absorb it, if the sorcerers are low kill them with a normal weapon so they turn into a curse. There are also domains with time dilation or the prison realm, so he can hire someone to trap a curse in there and train it to evolve in no time.
I said it awhile back that places where alot of war and deaths happened around the world would be where you can find some crazy strong curses. The example I gave was Normandy beach. The amount of people that died suffering on V day, there would of been alot of people dying with regrets and more.
Actually i thought of a funny loophole. So we all know as soon as you absorb a curse spirit its evolution stops? So what if you 'release' like Kenjaku did (The cockroach curse that became a player) to resume its evolution and push its limit again to capture it
Uzumaki is pretty much bird strike. Bird strike basically gived up the bird for insane amounts of damage and speed. When geto or kenjaku uses uzumaki, they sacrifice their cursed spirits and turn them into potent cursed energy which can be later on shot at the enemy.
There is also a way to become a sentient vengeful spirit with a few binding vows. First step, become a hated sorcerer (pretty easy stuff, just commit a few war crimes) and set a binding vow to activate your technique on yourself once you reincarnate. Then get killed without the use of cursed energy and come back as a vengeful spirit. You would normally loose most of your mind but because of Cursed Spirit Manipulation taking effect you would gain control over your own mind. With this you become immortal, can regenerate without RCT and gain near infinite cursed energy.
@@blu3d3vil97 It wouldn’t prevent you from getting stronger, where’d you even get that from? Naoya, the prime example of vengeful spirits in the series, grows near constantly throughout his battle. He even gets a domain expansion.
I feel like there are a lot of ways to improve cursed spirit manipulation even more, here are some examples : 1- Hunt down curse users with a ct (or even without ct, as they can still be extra brawlers for your army.), kill them with a weapon that doesn't have ce, see them turn into a vengeful curse (if that doesn't work, just curse them like Yuta did to Rika), wait till they reach their final form (kinda like how you said to toy with curses for them to grow.), beat them up and absorb them. (But if they're willing to save their lives by being your shikigami, then don't deny them.) Now you got yourself a way to farm either grade 1 curses or special grades curses. (WITHOUT committing mass destruction.) That's not mentioning the fact that you will have multiple CTs at the same time. Like for an example cloning, seance, inverse, and miracles. And If curse Naoya is anything to go by, then they would get MASSIVE buffs (like he went from being a strong grade 1 sorcerer to being the second strongest curse we know currently! [First being Rika, of course.] His ass would've been defeated with no effort by Jogo when he was alive, but after he became a curse he could exorcise him with minor difficulty.), they might even get a domain expansion like him... 2- find Sukuna's fingers, take one of your special grade curses that's physically strong but doesn't have a ct, or one with a ct that isn't that good or a very strong grade one curse (Like the rainbow dragon) and feed it the finger. Reason being is that finger bearers seem to abandon all of their previous traits as curses, which was showcased by the second finger bearer. So feeding a curse that has a strong ct/strong trait a finger would just waste the ct or trait they had. But the second finger bearer also showed us that the stronger the curse it previously was, the stronger they would become when they transform. (The first one was an insect, while the second was a mole. So the second one is stronger.) They might seem much weaker than Sukuna, but you have to take into consideration that Sukuna had two fingers and was in a much stronger vessel than the curse. So if a curse had a body that's as strong as Yuji, they might become almost as strong as Sukuna. (Almost because I doubt that they would be as strong as regular Sukuna, even with the strongest curse in the world.) So if a strong curse was fed 20 fingers it would be worth 15 finger Sukuna, instead of being weaker than 10 finger Sukuna. Now you have a weapon that's almost as strong as Sukuna, but things could be even better. 3- if you find a strong curse like the disaster curses, instead of consuming them and stunning their growth, you could beat them up and force them to become your shikigami instead. (Kinda like how Toji subjected the inventory curse) Dagon, Hanami and Jogo care for one another deeply, so if you threatened to kill one of them they would comply. And if you threatened to kill Mahito, he would agree. Now do that to every grade one/special grade curse, and you will be set for life. 4- make Mahito fuse most of your curses into the finger bearer, like in the Polymorphic Soul Isomer. (Like Fortnitekid said) Make him do a binding vow to sacrifice 35% of your grade fours to stabilize the body, and sacrifice another 35% and 35% of your grade threes to be turned into batteries of ce (you mentioned how Mei Mei sacrifices the life of a crow to do bird strike, Well it's that, but instead of it being used as a one time attack, you just give the ce reserves to the finger bearer. So the finger bearer has thousands of death binding vows, and unlike with Mei Mei instead of birds with barely any cursed energy, we're using beings that are MADE out of cursed energy.) and another 35% to make it rapidly regenerate its ce reserves, so it would never run out of ce. (don't worry about the rest of the grade fours and threes we will make use of them soon enough...) Now you can give the finger bearer all your curses ct (minus the disaster curses, because you might still need them individually.) And give it all the good traits of your curses. So for an example, if a grade one curse has the highest durability of all your curses, give that to him. If one of your grade one curses is the fastest there's, give it its speed. If one of your special grade curses has the best regeneration, give it to him. That reminds me of something... you remember how Geto used maximum uzumaki on Yuta? Remember how Kenjaku said Geto would've won if he had all his curses? (Which is 6461 btw, as he put 4461 into his maximum uzumaki, and split 2000 across Japan.) That was against a Yuta that literally made a *death binding vow*, which means Yuta is WAAAY weaker than that normally. But let's give him the benefit of the doubt, and say the binding vow only gave him double his ce. (Death binding vows give you a **way higher*** multiplier than double, but let's just give it to him.) So Yuta is worth 3230.5 curses, and he was mentioned to have half or less the ce of Sukuna. But let's just say that Sukuna has triple Yuta's ce, so Sukuna is worth 9691.5 curses. Geto had 6000 curses already, so he just needs to do two or three tours around Japan and that number would go to 12000~18000. (Which is not too ridiculous considering the fact that Kenjaku had Geto's body for like one year, and managed to gather FIVE MILLION CURSES!!! Geto was a jujutsu sorcerer for at least ten years, and yet he only collected six thousand!? And what bugs me the most is that Kenjaku SOMEHOW still has enough time to play football, domino, monopoly and rest on the beach... Geto must've spent 99% of his time hating on monkeys, and 1% actually trying to achieve his plan.) And now with a finger bearer that has almost 75% of Sukuna's power... yeah, we still would've surpassed full power Sukuna just by doing it normally. (That's not getting into the fact that we literally made a death binding with most of our grade three and four curses, so the ce would be even higher. I have no doubt in my mind that the curse would have higher CE than Sukuna, Meguna and Hein era Sukuna all at the same f***ing time.) And let's buff ourselves up by doing death binding vows with 25% of our grade three curses. (So around a hundred death binding vows, which will probably be enough to give us a higher CE than Hein era Sukuna.) But let's be nice for the disaster curses and sacrifice some of our grade twos to give them higher durability/speed to overcome their weaknesses. And let's buff our vengeful curses, and make a Polymorphic Soul Isomer out of them, while sacrificing 5% of our grade three curses to stabilize the body. (Imagine a vengeful curse that has miracles, cloning, inverse, and can summon shikigami all at the same time. It might even have multiple domains...) 5- Also speaking of Mahito, now that you have him you can force him to change how your curses look to buff them up. See how Sukuna has the perfect body for sorcery because he has two mouths and four arms? Well wait to tell you Dagon, Hanami, Jogo, Mahito, plus every other special grade curse with six arms and three mouths! The one who would benefit the most will be your buffed up finger bearer and vengeful insomer, 6- Make all your strong curses spar constantly, so they can continue to grow everyday and reach their full potential. Speaking of full potential, Jogo was literally mentioned to have enough potential to be alongside Sukuna and Gojo (and that's regular Jogo that doesn't have six arms and three mouths.) and Mahito is outright stated to have higher potential than him. These two have the potential to be in the same league as the strongest guys in the verse, NORMALLY. And with all these buffs and the fact that they can spar with the strongest creature in the verse (our ultimate finger bearer) to sharpen their power alongside it, they will 100% grow way past Sukuna and Gojo. (Also imagine the finger bearer with a barrier-less Graveyard domain at the same level of refinement to Gojo... everyone will be f'ed.) 7- Go out and continue your search for curse users. (if you find some that have a ct, but can't use it, use Mahito to awaken their ct. Like he did with Junpei.) Also with Mahito by your side, you can awaken the ct of some random serial killer, and get yourself an extra curse user this way. Then fuse your curses/shikigami with these LIVING curse users to make them half human/half curse, like Choso. So they will no longer get one shot by RCT output. 8- Now for some safety measures... remember the 30% grade four curses we left? Well we're gonna use a binding vow that says if you or any of your special grade curses was about to take significant damage, one of your grade four curses will take the damage instead. (So it will function like Haruta's technique, saving you from any attack that's about to kill you, but on a much higher scale.) You can also use it to ignore the effects of your opponents techniques/domains by transferring the effect to your grade four curses. (Kinda like how Sukuna did to Megumi, but much more successful.)
This might sound stupid but couldn't you transform yourself into an vengeful curse before step 8 (using the tacti that has been discussed in the comment of guilha1506) to become unable to die of old age and then combine yourself (as you are now an vengeful curse too) with the vengeful insomer causing you to have all that strenght and more as happend with Naoya (and the aspect of not being able to continue growning has also been posted in guilha1560 where it was said that there are still ways to grow) using all that couldn't you and your curses become effectively Immortal?
cant wait to see the showcase of fp blood manipulation gojo showcased fp of limitless and sukuna 10s in yuuji i trust bro humble toji and maki now (imo)
I know this video is a couple months old now, but I thought about a really good idea for how a Curse Spirit Manipulation user could amass a large arsenal. They need to get their hands on one of Sukuna's fingers or some cursed object of a similar effect so they can basically use it as a magnet for curses, this would likely be more effective on weaker ones as they would be drawn the most but would be super beneficial nonetheless
As someone who’s enjoyed cursed spirit manipulation ( and any ability that in theory gives you many other abilities) I’ve always considered a secondary way of utilizing it Make a binding vow that allows you to do two things, utilize your curses cursed energy to fuel all of your processes (barriers, reinforcement, CT, and subsequently allowing you to use their techniques under your knowledge (think as kenjaku used idle through the maximum technique but without burning them )techniques as if it’s your own. The condition is that you won’t have a single cursed spirit summoned or out during this time So now you’ve got your normal kit of spamming and summoning curses but should that not work and you have a few curses with specialized techniques or more useful attacks switch your energy to drain from every curse in your stockpile and start firing off whatever you’ve found till something works that way Then there’s the forcing things to die for you method / using them for some type of ritual ( I’m sure he could find and add some statements to binding and dominating the will if he wanted to add words ) But if this is able to be done then work your domain which should automatically apply curse spirit manipulation to anything within range but then also have the rule only curses may activate their techniques within this space ( see where this is going )
Notice how the two strongest sorcerers have an out this world amazing feat before ultimately being chopped up by Sukuna. For Gojo it was escaping the prison realm and destroying thousands of cursed spirits from the bottom of the ocean, for Yuta it was defeating Ken-Geto’s thousand of unleashed cursed spirits.
One big thing is with uzamaki, he can use the technique once himself. If he had rika snd defeated yuta, he could store the CTs in rika to unleash if the situation were to ever arise
After Kenjaku got cursed spirit manipluation he should have realized that Sukuna would end up a cursed spirit like Tengan and waited for that to take him over too.
Curse spirit manipulation is feeling like it’s idle transfiguration but on steroids and it also have a mine craft like farm really feels like this is probably one of the CT that I’m betting can surpass gojo if it reaches its full potential
if kenjaku had cursed spirit manipulation as a cursed Technique the whole time building up curses over hundreds of years imagine how broken he could be
Fuck Geto If you think bout it, Kenny had a hella lot of potential, if only bro did more experiment on geto's body, atleast one year or two more, its kinda insane. Kenny must've had choso's blood manipulation, he must've just found it way inferior to use on combat💀along with the abilities of the many sorcerors he took bodies of, absorbing CT of cursed spirits, thats hella fucked up mahn. Sukuna/Gojo vs Kenny if he had experimented on Geto's body more is literally Superman vs Constantine. Kenny clearly lacks the physical provess and speed to match Gojo/Sukuna, but still he's smart asf
I've been waiting for this one more than the Ten Shadows one. A shame that some of the ideas from the Ten Shadows video weren't mentioned in this one, such as making a cursed tool that is able to use some aspect of the cursed technique engraved into the user. Maybe a weapon for a cursed spirit manipulator could be able to summon parts of a cursed spirit like arms to grab the opponent. I actually want to see a full potential blood manipulation video. I always wondered why the Kamo clan were a part of the big three along with the Gojo clan's Six Eyes + Limitless and the Zenin clan's 10 Shadows, but we never got to see blood manipulation talked about or used like the aforementioned techniques. I might be stretching the technique quite a bit here, but I think blood manipulation can be taken to the next level if the user has reverse cursed technique, similarly to the limitless cursed technique, as you actually need reverse cursed technique to get the full kit(Red and by extension Purple). I'll end my yap here but I'd love to see a video on blood manipulation like this one and the 10 Shadows one cuz blood manipulation is my favorite cursed technique.
With prep time a top 3 technique, you have access to tens of techniques even if it's one time use. You can have access to special grade cursed spirits to fight alongside you. And we know if you have atleast 8000 you CAN beat someone on Okkotsus levels if that Uzumaki can land
Nah cause imagine if they had a serial killer that went to torture and brutalize sorcerers purposely to make them into vengeful curses just to catch them. I think they would be an even bigger menace to Sukuna. To basically kill someone, beat up their soul and enslave it
This won't have much to do with the video I just wanted to dump my idea on a CSM CT reversal: manipulation of Humans by making them "absorb" the user's CE. I dont think this would be all too useful unless used on other sorcerers, but I'm proud of what I've concocted
Short answer geto would be gojo level the biggest problem with this is that it depends on how they use it like if geto had rika he could use her to copy some cursed powers and have an infinity supply of abilities plus some curses he wouldn’t want to copy like rainbow dragon maybe he’d be able to be special grade and he could use rika to copy angels ct and apply that to his domain as the sure hit and he’d be able to fight geto evenly or use black rope or inverted spear or both to fight gojo in equal footing and give sukuna a seriously good fight especially on if he can use mahito to adjust his form for curses like imagine using mahito perfect form with rika or all the disaster curses to make new chimera like forms of different combinations of curses to boost himself and maybe make his body similar to mahito to be invulnerable to damage outside domains if it doesn’t target the soul the potential limits of this ct is honestly as high as rika and mimicry
Geto can’t be on gojo level since he doesn’t have a ct that’s on par with gojo and doesn’t have the talent and hand to hand abilities that’s on par with him. Also if geto did get rika, he doenst get the copy abilities, he just gets a really strong curse spirit that has a lot of ce. The copy ct belongs to yuta, rika in the manga is just a shikigami that’s connected to yuta’s ct that helps him copy other people’s powers, but the copy ct itself is yuta’s, and since every ct is stored in the brain, then yuta’s copy ct is also stored in his own brain. So geto wouldn’t be able to get copy since it’s not his.
@@farsous10 he could be on gojos level as his ct can be on par with the right curses and hand to hand can be developed over time but rika can store techniques and has infinite cursed energy from rika through the fight that can heal him and store weapons and the techniques are stored in rika so if he uses her to store spirits and potentially techniques thanks to cursed manipulation he could use copy to an extent she makes him copy multiple techniques otherwise he’d be dead right now without her and he can’t use copy without rika
@@jaidongerman1920 that’s not how it works. First of all geto’s hand to hand is inferior to gojo’s, so he can’t be on par with him on that. You can’t just say “he’ll learn it over time”, when you can say that about anybody, even gojo himself. The fact of the matter is he’s not as good as him in combat, that’s just an objective fact, especially since if gojo does all out, he infuses his combat with his ct which makes him even stronger and faster. Second, rika doesn’t heal people, yuta does. Yuta knows rct so that’s how he heals himself or others, so if geto has rika he wouldn’t be able to heal himself. Third, like I already said, yuta’s copy ct belongs to yuta and yuta alone. Rika doesn’t have the copy ct itself, since every single ct in existence is stored in the sorcerers brain, hence why rika doesn’t have that ability, she’s just part of the ability that helps yuta copy more cts. So if geto gets rika, he doesn’t get the ability like yuta’s since rika doesn’t have that ability stored in its brain, just yuta. All geto gets is a huge curse spirit with a lot of ce
@@farsous10 she has infinite cursed energy and supplies him and she is currently healing his body in the manga to try bring him back and she can store techniques like u said so if geto applies that logic to his cursed spirit manipulation he could somewhat use the cursed techniques of them and the hand to hand aspect is fair but he can still get to a level of gojos martial arts wise with his technique it would be difficult but it’s completely possible for geto to go toe to toe with gojo in hand to hand plus if he can use rika to store cursed spirits techniques like im theorising then he could get a curse that also helps in hand to hand or use Ganesha through rika to cancel out infinity
@@jaidongerman1920 rika can store supplies for geto sure, but there’s no point in him storing his curses cts in rika since his own curse manipulation already does that. Also, rika is not healing yuta at all, not sure where you got that form, she’s just hugging his body and crying, she’s not healing him cuz he isn’t dead, the body is ofc but yuta himself isnt, he’s just in another body. Also even if geto uses Ganesha to bypass infinity, that’s not a win con since bypassing infinity doesn’t mean you win agaisnt gojo, that’s already been explained in the story. Everyone that knows or can bypass infinity is still so so much weaker than gojo except sukuna. So gojo can still destroy Ganesha with or without infinity, infinity just makes gojo invincible but without it he’s still the strongest sorcerer besides sukuna
Well, geto died too early, if he had been alive for longer, I am pretty sure his base uzumaki without a grade 1 or above curse would be way stronger, and he would’ve probably done a black flash
personally i think puwhing them to evolve mid fight is too risky the mahito thing took months and he wasnt doing it himselfid say the fact the csm user can enhace the spirits makes up for it like kenjaku could already make grade 4 as strong as grade 1s also i dont think you can force spirits like mahito into serving you theyre too intelligent
Why did kenjaku never just make a binding vow to make all of his cursed spirits to grade one considering he never had any special grades it would've just made all of the weak ones actually usefull
I'm curious, do you think if the timing was different, sakuna would've wanted this technique? It's pretty much a better 10 Shadows And for those who want to bring up maharaga, sakuna was intrigued with 10 Shadows long before he knew about maharaga adaption
@@TheEternalFlame57 yeah, I still don't understand why the use of shadows interested him tho here's a funny idea, sakuna's all about eating, having a technique where he can eat curse spirits would suit him lol
@skullknight4579 u dont need to carry tokens Its versatile and as shown vs yorozu u can make immortal shikigami by partial manifestation U can also control the shadows
People gave Geto shit for not having a domain, meanwhile he literally owned at least two curses with busted domains. Slit mouthed woman would kill you unless you also had inverted spear of heaven and a divine restriction, small pox deity would have killed Mei Mei, a grade one sorceress, if she didnt have her specialized combat bait and teleport bot child, Ui Ui
Yes n no Not sure since it involved curses energy(isoh) but he would've died from bleeding But imma say it wouldn't because then we would have way more vengeful curses if any bleeding, poison, DoT death caused them
the reversal could be capturing shikigami since shikigami are capable of use reverse curse technique as well, or it's just palworld and let you enslave people
@@lynnusuk2092 shikigami and humans are separate beings so that cant be it, would be like trying to manipulate animals or cursed corpses but good try, maybe since cursed spirit manipulation is (manipulation) the reversal is the opposite, like a cursed guidance? That rather than abosorbing and controlling cursed spirits he transmutes them into beings of pure positive energy, we could call them blessings? Ig and makes them free to just either bless the world with their reverse cursed technique by healing humans/other injured beings, or like if jogo was transmuted he would just go around healing people and trying to stop forest fires and burn damage being caused by fire or cool beings down who are too hot/overheating
Real question but do you think geto or anyone with cursed spirit manipulation can defeat and acquire mahoraga? If you can overwhelm it with 5 thousand cursed spirits could it bring maho down? Cause think about it, geto was drooling at the thought of getting rika and her near infinite cursed energy but imagine he learned about the ten shadows instead,
@@monsterwannabe I know that but inherently both cursed spirits & shikigami are made from cursed energy. Cursed spirits made from just the negative energy from the associated feelings like fear of fires & the oceans while shikigami are formed through the user’s own cursed energy Really the whole thing that hinges on the idea is if Cursed spirit manipulation actually does register cursed spirits & shikigami as completely two different entities or not. Or if shikigami can be separated from their hosts by the technique. I know volume 0 rika was a vengeful cursed spirit but main series rika is a weird Copy?
@@a.dackee9737 Rika is translated in the Japanese as Yuta's external CT that's directly connected to Copy. We know that because 1. It's been stated by the narrator. 2. Rika's soul was freed. And 3. Rika is not a copy but just the Cursed spirit/shikigami without Rika's soul but Rika herself stayed. There's a theory that suggests that Vengeful CS Rika is actually just a shikigami as well already conjured from Yuta's innate CT finally manifesting, like Moon Dregs for an example with Junpei and Garuda with Yuki. Which does make a lot of sense, and may be the reason why Gege even listed her as Yuta's CT in the databook.
Even if mahoraga was a curse and not a shikigami Still doubt it Curses get one shot by mahoraga's blade Most curses are absolutely fodder vs mahoraga Csm doesn't have more than like 2 nukes at most(uzumaki and domain) And if u dont kill mahoraga he adapts If u make a mistake u will lose even the possibility of beating mahoraga let alone capturing
Broken Ronin did one about Getos full potential this is about the full potential of CSM and they both have different points.stop hating on videos and do something with your life
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Curse spirit manipulation can be pushed to new levels with mahito, if he makes mahito use idle transfiguration on his cursed spirits geto could make amalgamated monsters, imagine using soul multiplicity on 100 grade 4 cursed spirits, geto can use all the disaster curses domains and it wouldn't effect him at all he could use idle transfiguration to combine all the disaster curses into one creating something beyond special grade, he could hide mahito and only bring him out to heal getos body through the soul, geto could have unlimited rct without using any ce and with rika he could use her unlimited ce to fuel the other cursed spirits cts and overall power as its confirmed kenjaku can empower his cursed spirits with ce
Gege said that Geto could combine and reassemble Curses in the fanbook but also said that there'd be no point in doing so because CSM is a lot harder to use on more powerful Cursed Spirits. IT would probably help lessen the difficulty though
@Flowermedal it would lessen the difficulty to like zero, I'd never seen that statement, But if soo even better
@@dude5281 I gotchu. From pages 70-75 of the fanbook: "Can the Cursed Spirit Manipulation technique reassemble or combine cursed spirits?" Akutami: It can but there'd be no point in doing so because it's much more difficult to use the cursed technique on more powerful cursed spirits. It's better and more powerful to go for quantity hence, the Maximum Uzumaki. The Uzumaki actually has a side effect that can be unlocked when used but...we'll get to that soon.
@Flowermedal true the implementation of idle transfiguration would actually make it useful to combine them soo its still a huge powerbuff
Wait a min is gege saying combining the cursed spirits is fruitless because the stronger they get the more uncontrollable they become? But I don't see why this is an issue kenny could control special grade spirits with ease so why not fuse all the grade 1's and lower and just keep a stock of special grades basically limit your entire csm stock to say 30 special grades by fusing the thousands of weaker curses to form special grades , now you're basically a better 10 shadow user with 30 " shikigami like special grade spirits" at your disposal because unlike the ten shadows where some shikigamis are really weak and one trick ponys , you've 30 special grades standing beside you with dozens of different CTS at your disposal@@Flowermedal
Full potential of Limitless:
(Assuming Six Eyes)
Limitless Transportation: Maintain a Blue in front of you and a Red behind you in order to create a makeshift Alcubiere drive and move at the speed of light without breaking physics.
Maximum: Zeno's Paradox: Expand the range of Infinity's inviolability to cover the immediate surrounding area, so there is an infinite distance between everything and any motion is therefore impossible except for your own. Basically stopping time in a limited radius.
Overlap: Use Blue to overlap spaces together in order to achieve impossible trajectories and hit multiple targets at once. For instance, if you have a sword, you could overlap spaces so your sword swing passes through things that aren't linearly aligned, and do things like cut all the opponent's limbs off with a single stroke. You could also cause opponents' attacks to hit themselves by overlapping the space they're in with the one the attack is passing through.
Cosmos: Firing a Blue with several small Reds orbiting around it from its pull, sort of resembling a model of the solar system. This would be good for attacks over a wide range and could be triggered into a remote Purple from a distance as the Reds collapse into the Blue.
Blue - Whirlwind: Rapidly rotating Blue in order to turn its pull into a vortex or hurricane.
Red - Landmine: Scattering small Reds that are sensitive to touch through an area, so that the opponent running into them will cause them to explode in a chain reaction. Possibly you could create a delayed Red beneath the ground to conceal it until it explodes when the opponent is on top of it.
Red - Rapid Fire: Gojo never did this but he stated he can do multiple at once so he absolutely could fire out Reds like a gattling gun.
Six Eyes - Overdrive: Inspired by Emperor Time from Hunter X Hunter. Using a binding vow, in exchange for sacrificing ten years of your life per minute of usage time, you boost the sharpness of The Six Eyes. This is so overpowered I don't even wanna speculate about what you could do with it, but one possibility is seeing the opponent's Cursed Energy so clearly you can predict their movements like precog, or maybe achieving Hakari-level regeneration with RCT efficiency. Assuming you're Gojo's age and your natural lifespan went to ninety you could only use this for six minutes total before dying, and that timer would not reset from one use to another.
That would be op man have u ever consider making a TH-cam video on something like this
What about instant hollow purple?
@@dude5281 You mean with the sharpened Six Eyes right? Yeah, you'd probably be able to skip the handseals, although it might not be as powerful.
It might end up the size of the one he used the first time against Toji (roughly basketball-width) rather than the larger one he used in the goodwill event (like, twenty metres wide).
@someguy4405 he could do the full charge up n everything, then teleport right behind him and release it at full power
@@dude5281 To get full power you need the handseals and the chant, and Gojo's teleportation with Blue has a separate handseal where he clasps them together. So I don't know if he could do it with his hands occupied. Maybe he could, but not over a great distance.
thing is with just cursed spirit manipulation its literally rng , say if he got rika he would be a monster , he got mahito that one time uzumaki would literally cause immense devastation , literally kenjaku started the culling games with it. lets not even mention the ten million cursed spirits , theres literally so much randomness involved the full potential will never be known , suguru geto himself isnt even a good example of what it could do due to the limited nature of volume zero and kenjaku himself has other techniques
Yeep, that’s why I can’t go to far with it. Cause like the best you can do is try and forcefully farm curses but even then that has limits
The RCT of CSM could be to release curses, so the user could release a curse, fight it thus making it stronger and then reabsorve the curse.
Also being able to fuse curses like Totality but as a consequence not being able to defuse them.
9:38 straight up evil💀
But its the best way to power up for cursed spirit manipulator.
But still it's terrorism 💀🙏🙏
Bro's gonna farm curses like sheep and chiken 💀
They call it terrorism, but for me, its just a part of the grind
@@averageinternettroll 💀😭
one can even kill human sorcerers by using normal weaponry to make them get reborn as a curse, just like what happened to naoya
9:37 the issue with this plan is Tengen's barriers. The barriers around Japan was designed to funnel cursed energy from around the globe into Japan, so all the energy you terrorize into existence would just get shipped to Japan.
Welp time to pull a Kenjaku and capture Tengen
I always thought Geto could automize the hell out of his capturing process. Let other sorcerers fight curses for you, when the curse is low absorb it, if the sorcerers are low kill them with a normal weapon so they turn into a curse. There are also domains with time dilation or the prison realm, so he can hire someone to trap a curse in there and train it to evolve in no time.
I said it awhile back that places where alot of war and deaths happened around the world would be where you can find some crazy strong curses. The example I gave was Normandy beach. The amount of people that died suffering on V day, there would of been alot of people dying with regrets and more.
Actually i thought of a funny loophole. So we all know as soon as you absorb a curse spirit its evolution stops? So what if you 'release' like Kenjaku did (The cockroach curse that became a player) to resume its evolution and push its limit again to capture it
He didn’t release it, he just summoned it and let it go to be part of the culling game
Uzumaki is pretty much bird strike. Bird strike basically gived up the bird for insane amounts of damage and speed. When geto or kenjaku uses uzumaki, they sacrifice their cursed spirits and turn them into potent cursed energy which can be later on shot at the enemy.
There is also a way to become a sentient vengeful spirit with a few binding vows.
First step, become a hated sorcerer (pretty easy stuff, just commit a few war crimes) and set a binding vow to activate your technique on yourself once you reincarnate.
Then get killed without the use of cursed energy and come back as a vengeful spirit. You would normally loose most of your mind but because of Cursed Spirit Manipulation taking effect you would gain control over your own mind.
With this you become immortal, can regenerate without RCT and gain near infinite cursed energy.
Not how it works
Firstly that would prevent u from ever growing stronger
U also dont have infinite ce and will get one shot by any rct
Correction: you gain a lot of ce but it’s still nowhere near infinite
@@blu3d3vil97 It wouldn’t prevent you from getting stronger, where’d you even get that from? Naoya, the prime example of vengeful spirits in the series, grows near constantly throughout his battle. He even gets a domain expansion.
@@sedrie34 he uses csm to keep his mind intact which would stop his growth
@seanmckenzie9843 curse spirit manipulation stops any further growth
I feel like there are a lot of ways to improve cursed spirit manipulation even more, here are some examples :
1- Hunt down curse users with a ct (or even without ct, as they can still be extra brawlers for your army.), kill them with a weapon that doesn't have ce, see them turn into a vengeful curse (if that doesn't work, just curse them like Yuta did to Rika), wait till they reach their final form (kinda like how you said to toy with curses for them to grow.), beat them up and absorb them. (But if they're willing to save their lives by being your shikigami, then don't deny them.) Now you got yourself a way to farm either grade 1 curses or special grades curses. (WITHOUT committing mass destruction.) That's not mentioning the fact that you will have multiple CTs at the same time. Like for an example cloning, seance, inverse, and miracles.
And If curse Naoya is anything to go by, then they would get MASSIVE buffs (like he went from being a strong grade 1 sorcerer to being the second strongest curse we know currently! [First being Rika, of course.] His ass would've been defeated with no effort by Jogo when he was alive, but after he became a curse he could exorcise him with minor difficulty.), they might even get a domain expansion like him...
2- find Sukuna's fingers, take one of your special grade curses that's physically strong but doesn't have a ct, or one with a ct that isn't that good or a very strong grade one curse (Like the rainbow dragon) and feed it the finger. Reason being is that finger bearers seem to abandon all of their previous traits as curses, which was showcased by the second finger bearer. So feeding a curse that has a strong ct/strong trait a finger would just waste the ct or trait they had.
But the second finger bearer also showed us that the stronger the curse it previously was, the stronger they would become when they transform. (The first one was an insect, while the second was a mole. So the second one is stronger.)
They might seem much weaker than Sukuna, but you have to take into consideration that Sukuna had two fingers and was in a much stronger vessel than the curse. So if a curse had a body that's as strong as Yuji, they might become almost as strong as Sukuna. (Almost because I doubt that they would be as strong as regular Sukuna, even with the strongest curse in the world.) So if a strong curse was fed 20 fingers it would be worth 15 finger Sukuna, instead of being weaker than 10 finger Sukuna. Now you have a weapon that's almost as strong as Sukuna, but things could be even better.
3- if you find a strong curse like the disaster curses, instead of consuming them and stunning their growth, you could beat them up and force them to become your shikigami instead. (Kinda like how Toji subjected the inventory curse) Dagon, Hanami and Jogo care for one another deeply, so if you threatened to kill one of them they would comply. And if you threatened to kill Mahito, he would agree. Now do that to every grade one/special grade curse, and you will be set for life.
4- make Mahito fuse most of your curses into the finger bearer, like in the Polymorphic Soul Isomer. (Like Fortnitekid said) Make him do a binding vow to sacrifice 35% of your grade fours to stabilize the body, and sacrifice another 35% and 35% of your grade threes to be turned into batteries of ce (you mentioned how Mei Mei sacrifices the life of a crow to do bird strike, Well it's that, but instead of it being used as a one time attack, you just give the ce reserves to the finger bearer. So the finger bearer has thousands of death binding vows, and unlike with Mei Mei instead of birds with barely any cursed energy, we're using beings that are MADE out of cursed energy.) and another 35% to make it rapidly regenerate its ce reserves, so it would never run out of ce. (don't worry about the rest of the grade fours and threes we will make use of them soon enough...) Now you can give the finger bearer all your curses ct (minus the disaster curses, because you might still need them individually.) And give it all the good traits of your curses. So for an example, if a grade one curse has the highest durability of all your curses, give that to him. If one of your grade one curses is the fastest there's, give it its speed. If one of your special grade curses has the best regeneration, give it to him.
That reminds me of something... you remember how Geto used maximum uzumaki on Yuta? Remember how Kenjaku said Geto would've won if he had all his curses? (Which is 6461 btw, as he put 4461 into his maximum uzumaki, and split 2000 across Japan.) That was against a Yuta that literally made a *death binding vow*, which means Yuta is WAAAY weaker than that normally. But let's give him the benefit of the doubt, and say the binding vow only gave him double his ce. (Death binding vows give you a **way higher*** multiplier than double, but let's just give it to him.) So Yuta is worth 3230.5 curses, and he was mentioned to have half or less the ce of Sukuna. But let's just say that Sukuna has triple Yuta's ce, so Sukuna is worth 9691.5 curses.
Geto had 6000 curses already, so he just needs to do two or three tours around Japan and that number would go to 12000~18000. (Which is not too ridiculous considering the fact that Kenjaku had Geto's body for like one year, and managed to gather FIVE MILLION CURSES!!! Geto was a jujutsu sorcerer for at least ten years, and yet he only collected six thousand!? And what bugs me the most is that Kenjaku SOMEHOW still has enough time to play football, domino, monopoly and rest on the beach... Geto must've spent 99% of his time hating on monkeys, and 1% actually trying to achieve his plan.) And now with a finger bearer that has almost 75% of Sukuna's power... yeah, we still would've surpassed full power Sukuna just by doing it normally. (That's not getting into the fact that we literally made a death binding with most of our grade three and four curses, so the ce would be even higher. I have no doubt in my mind that the curse would have higher CE than Sukuna, Meguna and Hein era Sukuna all at the same f***ing time.)
And let's buff ourselves up by doing death binding vows with 25% of our grade three curses. (So around a hundred death binding vows, which will probably be enough to give us a higher CE than Hein era Sukuna.)
But let's be nice for the disaster curses and sacrifice some of our grade twos to give them higher durability/speed to overcome their weaknesses.
And let's buff our vengeful curses, and make a Polymorphic Soul Isomer out of them, while sacrificing 5% of our grade three curses to stabilize the body. (Imagine a vengeful curse that has miracles, cloning, inverse, and can summon shikigami all at the same time. It might even have multiple domains...)
5- Also speaking of Mahito, now that you have him you can force him to change how your curses look to buff them up. See how Sukuna has the perfect body for sorcery because he has two mouths and four arms? Well wait to tell you Dagon, Hanami, Jogo, Mahito, plus every other special grade curse with six arms and three mouths!
The one who would benefit the most will be your buffed up finger bearer and vengeful insomer,
6- Make all your strong curses spar constantly, so they can continue to grow everyday and reach their full potential. Speaking of full potential, Jogo was literally mentioned to have enough potential to be alongside Sukuna and Gojo (and that's regular Jogo that doesn't have six arms and three mouths.) and Mahito is outright stated to have higher potential than him. These two have the potential to be in the same league as the strongest guys in the verse, NORMALLY. And with all these buffs and the fact that they can spar with the strongest creature in the verse (our ultimate finger bearer) to sharpen their power alongside it, they will 100% grow way past Sukuna and Gojo. (Also imagine the finger bearer with a barrier-less Graveyard domain at the same level of refinement to Gojo... everyone will be f'ed.)
7- Go out and continue your search for curse users. (if you find some that have a ct, but can't use it, use Mahito to awaken their ct. Like he did with Junpei.) Also with Mahito by your side, you can awaken the ct of some random serial killer, and get yourself an extra curse user this way. Then fuse your curses/shikigami with these LIVING curse users to make them half human/half curse, like Choso. So they will no longer get one shot by RCT output.
8- Now for some safety measures... remember the 30% grade four curses we left? Well we're gonna use a binding vow that says if you or any of your special grade curses was about to take significant damage, one of your grade four curses will take the damage instead. (So it will function like Haruta's technique, saving you from any attack that's about to kill you, but on a much higher scale.)
You can also use it to ignore the effects of your opponents techniques/domains by transferring the effect to your grade four curses. (Kinda like how Sukuna did to Megumi, but much more successful.)
bruh u are better than geto
You really cooked with this one, nice strategy.
This might sound stupid but couldn't you transform yourself into an vengeful curse before step 8 (using the tacti that has been discussed in the comment of guilha1506) to become unable to die of old age and then combine yourself (as you are now an vengeful curse too) with the vengeful insomer causing you to have all that strenght and more as happend with Naoya (and the aspect of not being able to continue growning has also been posted in guilha1560 where it was said that there are still ways to grow) using all that couldn't you and your curses become effectively Immortal?
cant wait to see the showcase of fp blood manipulation
gojo showcased fp of limitless and sukuna 10s in yuuji i trust bro humble toji and maki now (imo)
He's not beating maki plsss lmao
Yuji is an adult geto victim
I know this video is a couple months old now, but I thought about a really good idea for how a Curse Spirit Manipulation user could amass a large arsenal. They need to get their hands on one of Sukuna's fingers or some cursed object of a similar effect so they can basically use it as a magnet for curses, this would likely be more effective on weaker ones as they would be drawn the most but would be super beneficial nonetheless
As someone who’s enjoyed cursed spirit manipulation ( and any ability that in theory gives you many other abilities)
I’ve always considered a secondary way of utilizing it
Make a binding vow that allows you to do two things, utilize your curses cursed energy to fuel all of your processes (barriers, reinforcement, CT, and subsequently allowing you to use their techniques under your knowledge (think as kenjaku used idle through the maximum technique but without burning them )techniques as if it’s your own. The condition is that you won’t have a single cursed spirit summoned or out during this time
So now you’ve got your normal kit of spamming and summoning curses but should that not work and you have a few curses with specialized techniques or more useful attacks switch your energy to drain from every curse in your stockpile and start firing off whatever you’ve found till something works that way
Then there’s the forcing things to die for you method / using them for some type of ritual ( I’m sure he could find and add some statements to binding and dominating the will if he wanted to add words )
But if this is able to be done then work your domain which should automatically apply curse spirit manipulation to anything within range but then also have the rule only curses may activate their techniques within this space ( see where this is going )
That's genius man. It would be similar to what Sukuna did with the ten shadows when fighting Gojo but wayyy more powerful lol
Notice how the two strongest sorcerers have an out this world amazing feat before ultimately being chopped up by Sukuna. For Gojo it was escaping the prison realm and destroying thousands of cursed spirits from the bottom of the ocean, for Yuta it was defeating Ken-Geto’s thousand of unleashed cursed spirits.
One of my favorite CT, I'm glad kenjaku showed what it can really do although I love geto and hate how he fell from grace but he wasn't like that
Do one for construction next
Full of potential of copy could be cool idea
Loved the video man it was brilliant
3 big vengeful spirits would make a fine addition.
I think the fish Geto shoots as bullets is the same thing-ish as bird strike
One big thing is with uzamaki, he can use the technique once himself. If he had rika snd defeated yuta, he could store the CTs in rika to unleash if the situation were to ever arise
I don't know I didn't think of this before, but Gedo just needed to hang around after Gojo defeating curses to just capture them.
After Kenjaku got cursed spirit manipluation he should have realized that Sukuna would end up a cursed spirit like Tengan and waited for that to take him over too.
That would require kenjaku to beat sukuna first lol
Make more full potential videos
Hakari is getting one soon. Then gonna try Mahito after
@@TheEternalFlame57 nice I can’t wait after mahito you should do the full potential of Yuji’s modern day version of cleave and dismantle
Curse spirit manipulation is feeling like it’s idle transfiguration but on steroids and it also have a mine craft like farm really feels like this is probably one of the CT that I’m betting can surpass gojo if it reaches its full potential
what if geto got killed without ce & turned into a vengeful spirit? his ct is curse manipulation & he becomes a curse
New sub bro
if kenjaku had cursed spirit manipulation as a cursed Technique the whole time building up curses over hundreds of years imagine how broken he could be
Fuck Geto
If you think bout it, Kenny had a hella lot of potential, if only bro did more experiment on geto's body, atleast one year or two more, its kinda insane. Kenny must've had choso's blood manipulation, he must've just found it way inferior to use on combat💀along with the abilities of the many sorcerors he took bodies of, absorbing CT of cursed spirits, thats hella fucked up mahn.
Sukuna/Gojo vs Kenny if he had experimented on Geto's body more is literally Superman vs Constantine. Kenny clearly lacks the physical provess and speed to match Gojo/Sukuna, but still he's smart asf
Grade 4 curse spirits can be used like how toji used them to hide his presence from sourcerers
I've been waiting for this one more than the Ten Shadows one. A shame that some of the ideas from the Ten Shadows video weren't mentioned in this one, such as making a cursed tool that is able to use some aspect of the cursed technique engraved into the user. Maybe a weapon for a cursed spirit manipulator could be able to summon parts of a cursed spirit like arms to grab the opponent.
I actually want to see a full potential blood manipulation video. I always wondered why the Kamo clan were a part of the big three along with the Gojo clan's Six Eyes + Limitless and the Zenin clan's 10 Shadows, but we never got to see blood manipulation talked about or used like the aforementioned techniques. I might be stretching the technique quite a bit here, but I think blood manipulation can be taken to the next level if the user has reverse cursed technique, similarly to the limitless cursed technique, as you actually need reverse cursed technique to get the full kit(Red and by extension Purple). I'll end my yap here but I'd love to see a video on blood manipulation like this one and the 10 Shadows one cuz blood manipulation is my favorite cursed technique.
Thx man and I did actually create a full potential of blood manip vid already th-cam.com/video/9fiTdaqDmAU/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=EternalFlame
With prep time a top 3 technique, you have access to tens of techniques even if it's one time use. You can have access to special grade cursed spirits to fight alongside you. And we know if you have atleast 8000 you CAN beat someone on Okkotsus levels if that Uzumaki can land
Nah cause imagine if they had a serial killer that went to torture and brutalize sorcerers purposely to make them into vengeful curses just to catch them. I think they would be an even bigger menace to Sukuna. To basically kill someone, beat up their soul and enslave it
I believe the Cursed Spirit gets healed or you can heal it, since Toji's Inventory Curse was badly injured when Geto absorbed it
Curses regenerate naturally if not killed
This won't have much to do with the video I just wanted to dump my idea on a CSM CT reversal: manipulation of Humans by making them "absorb" the user's CE. I dont think this would be all too useful unless used on other sorcerers, but I'm proud of what I've concocted
Or maybe its combining curses together, basically cursed spirits creation
Immagine COVID-19 cursed sprit level
What if you could make Totality Curses. For example if Rainbow Dragon got recked, it’s traits would be inherited by another curse in the future
Short answer geto would be gojo level the biggest problem with this is that it depends on how they use it like if geto had rika he could use her to copy some cursed powers and have an infinity supply of abilities plus some curses he wouldn’t want to copy like rainbow dragon maybe he’d be able to be special grade and he could use rika to copy angels ct and apply that to his domain as the sure hit and he’d be able to fight geto evenly or use black rope or inverted spear or both to fight gojo in equal footing and give sukuna a seriously good fight especially on if he can use mahito to adjust his form for curses like imagine using mahito perfect form with rika or all the disaster curses to make new chimera like forms of different combinations of curses to boost himself and maybe make his body similar to mahito to be invulnerable to damage outside domains if it doesn’t target the soul the potential limits of this ct is honestly as high as rika and mimicry
Geto can’t be on gojo level since he doesn’t have a ct that’s on par with gojo and doesn’t have the talent and hand to hand abilities that’s on par with him. Also if geto did get rika, he doenst get the copy abilities, he just gets a really strong curse spirit that has a lot of ce. The copy ct belongs to yuta, rika in the manga is just a shikigami that’s connected to yuta’s ct that helps him copy other people’s powers, but the copy ct itself is yuta’s, and since every ct is stored in the brain, then yuta’s copy ct is also stored in his own brain. So geto wouldn’t be able to get copy since it’s not his.
@@farsous10 he could be on gojos level as his ct can be on par with the right curses and hand to hand can be developed over time but rika can store techniques and has infinite cursed energy from rika through the fight that can heal him and store weapons and the techniques are stored in rika so if he uses her to store spirits and potentially techniques thanks to cursed manipulation he could use copy to an extent she makes him copy multiple techniques otherwise he’d be dead right now without her and he can’t use copy without rika
@@jaidongerman1920 that’s not how it works. First of all geto’s hand to hand is inferior to gojo’s, so he can’t be on par with him on that. You can’t just say “he’ll learn it over time”, when you can say that about anybody, even gojo himself. The fact of the matter is he’s not as good as him in combat, that’s just an objective fact, especially since if gojo does all out, he infuses his combat with his ct which makes him even stronger and faster.
Second, rika doesn’t heal people, yuta does. Yuta knows rct so that’s how he heals himself or others, so if geto has rika he wouldn’t be able to heal himself.
Third, like I already said, yuta’s copy ct belongs to yuta and yuta alone. Rika doesn’t have the copy ct itself, since every single ct in existence is stored in the sorcerers brain, hence why rika doesn’t have that ability, she’s just part of the ability that helps yuta copy more cts. So if geto gets rika, he doesn’t get the ability like yuta’s since rika doesn’t have that ability stored in its brain, just yuta. All geto gets is a huge curse spirit with a lot of ce
@@farsous10 she has infinite cursed energy and supplies him and she is currently healing his body in the manga to try bring him back and she can store techniques like u said so if geto applies that logic to his cursed spirit manipulation he could somewhat use the cursed techniques of them and the hand to hand aspect is fair but he can still get to a level of gojos martial arts wise with his technique it would be difficult but it’s completely possible for geto to go toe to toe with gojo in hand to hand plus if he can use rika to store cursed spirits techniques like im theorising then he could get a curse that also helps in hand to hand or use Ganesha through rika to cancel out infinity
@@jaidongerman1920 rika can store supplies for geto sure, but there’s no point in him storing his curses cts in rika since his own curse manipulation already does that. Also, rika is not healing yuta at all, not sure where you got that form, she’s just hugging his body and crying, she’s not healing him cuz he isn’t dead, the body is ofc but yuta himself isnt, he’s just in another body. Also even if geto uses Ganesha to bypass infinity, that’s not a win con since bypassing infinity doesn’t mean you win agaisnt gojo, that’s already been explained in the story. Everyone that knows or can bypass infinity is still so so much weaker than gojo except sukuna. So gojo can still destroy Ganesha with or without infinity, infinity just makes gojo invincible but without it he’s still the strongest sorcerer besides sukuna
Kenjaku’s death proved that all his cursed spirits were fodder lmao
Well, geto died too early, if he had been alive for longer, I am pretty sure his base uzumaki without a grade 1 or above curse would be way stronger, and he would’ve probably done a black flash
personally i think puwhing them to evolve mid fight is too risky the mahito thing took months and he wasnt doing it himselfid say the fact the csm user can enhace the spirits makes up for it like kenjaku could already make grade 4 as strong as grade 1s also i dont think you can force spirits like mahito into serving you theyre too intelligent
Why did kenjaku never just make a binding vow to make all of his cursed spirits to grade one considering he never had any special grades it would've just made all of the weak ones actually usefull
Kenjaku had 2 special grades Ganesha and the one Takaba killed
And tbh idk
I think cursed spirit manipulation and 10 shadow techniques are actually at the same level and none of them are actually better than the others😅
Unc is making us play competitive Pokémon 😭
Like understandable but damn
I don't like losing
@@TheEternalFlame57 I respect the grind G
I'm curious, do you think if the timing was different, sakuna would've wanted this technique? It's pretty much a better 10 Shadows
And for those who want to bring up maharaga, sakuna was intrigued with 10 Shadows long before he knew about maharaga adaption
Maybe? The reason he wanted 10 shadows was cause of the fact shadows are used as a medium. Though I could see Sukuna wanting it
@@TheEternalFlame57 yeah, I still don't understand why the use of shadows interested him tho
here's a funny idea, sakuna's all about eating, having a technique where he can eat curse spirits would suit him lol
@skullknight4579 u dont need to carry tokens
Its versatile and as shown vs yorozu u can make immortal shikigami by partial manifestation
U can also control the shadows
he was interested in megumi not 10s or taking the ability
Sukuna king of curse with curse spirit manipulation it's in THE NAME I WOUL LOVE TO SE SUKUNA SUMMON CURSED spirits it just makes sense !!
People gave Geto shit for not having a domain, meanwhile he literally owned at least two curses with busted domains. Slit mouthed woman would kill you unless you also had inverted spear of heaven and a divine restriction, small pox deity would have killed Mei Mei, a grade one sorceress, if she didnt have her specialized combat bait and teleport bot child, Ui Ui
Small Pox Diety was owned by Kenjaku. Geto sacrified all of his curse spirits at the end of the battle against Yuta
Btw would have gojo become a vengeful If he was actually killed by toji?
Yes n no
Not sure since it involved curses energy(isoh) but he would've died from bleeding
But imma say it wouldn't because then we would have way more vengeful curses if any bleeding, poison, DoT death caused them
Im more interested in the potential cursed technique reversal, like would it create positive/reverse cursed spirits?
Idk lol
i don’t think it would have a reversal
the reversal could be capturing shikigami since shikigami are capable of use reverse curse technique as well, or it's just palworld and let you enslave people
@@elijahdavis9211 every technique has a reversal off principle, its just a matter of figuring out what it is
@@lynnusuk2092 shikigami and humans are separate beings so that cant be it, would be like trying to manipulate animals or cursed corpses but good try, maybe since cursed spirit manipulation is (manipulation) the reversal is the opposite, like a cursed guidance? That rather than abosorbing and controlling cursed spirits he transmutes them into beings of pure positive energy, we could call them blessings? Ig and makes them free to just either bless the world with their reverse cursed technique by healing humans/other injured beings, or like if jogo was transmuted he would just go around healing people and trying to stop forest fires and burn damage being caused by fire or cool beings down who are too hot/overheating
Real question but do you think geto or anyone with cursed spirit manipulation can defeat and acquire mahoraga? If you can overwhelm it with 5 thousand cursed spirits could it bring maho down? Cause think about it, geto was drooling at the thought of getting rika and her near infinite cursed energy but imagine he learned about the ten shadows instead,
Mahoraga isn't a cursed spirit..it's a shikigami
@@monsterwannabe I know that but inherently both cursed spirits & shikigami are made from cursed energy. Cursed spirits made from just the negative energy from the associated feelings like fear of fires & the oceans while shikigami are formed through the user’s own cursed energy
Really the whole thing that hinges on the idea is if Cursed spirit manipulation actually does register cursed spirits & shikigami as completely two different entities or not. Or if shikigami can be separated from their hosts by the technique. I know volume 0 rika was a vengeful cursed spirit but main series rika is a weird Copy?
@@a.dackee9737 Rika is translated in the Japanese as Yuta's external CT that's directly connected to Copy. We know that because 1. It's been stated by the narrator. 2. Rika's soul was freed. And 3. Rika is not a copy but just the Cursed spirit/shikigami without Rika's soul but Rika herself stayed.
There's a theory that suggests that Vengeful CS Rika is actually just a shikigami as well already conjured from Yuta's innate CT finally manifesting, like Moon Dregs for an example with Junpei and Garuda with Yuki. Which does make a lot of sense, and may be the reason why Gege even listed her as Yuta's CT in the databook.
Even if mahoraga was a curse and not a shikigami
Still doubt it
Curses get one shot by mahoraga's blade
Most curses are absolutely fodder vs mahoraga
Csm doesn't have more than like 2 nukes at most(uzumaki and domain)
And if u dont kill mahoraga he adapts
If u make a mistake u will lose even the possibility of beating mahoraga let alone capturing
Kenjaku 1 000 000 cursed spirit rejected in shibuya
Geto 6500 cursed spirit in jjk 0
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cant wait to see toxic yuta fan cry as sukuna eats yuta or rika for that last finger💀
L video + broken ronin did it first and better
Broken Ronin did one about Getos full potential this is about the full potential of CSM and they both have different points.stop hating on videos and do something with your life