America's 15 Most OVERRATED Roller Coasters

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  • These are the most overrated coasters in America (in my opinion, of course)
    The 15 most UNDERRATED coasters: • America's 15 Most UNDE...
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    ElToroRyan: Dominator - • Dominator Off-Ride (4K...
    ElToroRyan: Cheetah Hunt - • Cheetah Hunt Off-Ride ...
    Canada's Wonderland:
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    Six Flags Over Georgia: / @officialsixflagsoverg...
    Cedar Point: / cedarpointvideos
    California's Great America: / @californiasgreatameri...
    Kings Island: / kingsislandonline
    Kings Dominion TV: / kingsdominiontv
    Music in this video, as found in the TH-cam Audio Library:
    Theme music: Black Vulture
    Background music: Passage

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  • @wickedphant0m
    @wickedphant0m 3 ปีที่แล้ว +240

    "Some people value intensity, but I value size and duration more"
    Oh okay... 😉

  • @christopherhiggins2350
    @christopherhiggins2350 3 ปีที่แล้ว +311

    "I've always thought it was undersized, short, and not that interesting ... Some people value the intensity factor over everything else. But I value size and duration more."
    That's what she said.

    • @AirtimeThrills
      @AirtimeThrills  3 ปีที่แล้ว +109

      I was legit trying to word that less dirty but figured I'd roll with it as is

    • @jonaleka
      @jonaleka 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Exactly 😂

    • @CoasterHorizons
      @CoasterHorizons 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      HA

    • @Scream162
      @Scream162 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

    • @DjLucasStable
      @DjLucasStable 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ha lols

  • @hedgehogcoasters7239
    @hedgehogcoasters7239 3 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    I see that chris still isn't entirely over his emotional rollercoaster story with skyrush

  • @Benny-hd7tz
    @Benny-hd7tz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +154

    I’m very glad this wasn’t based off of the Golden Ticket Awards, otherwise it would be very easy... I mean who votes for those things

  • @kingkoopa6442
    @kingkoopa6442 3 ปีที่แล้ว +215

    *video hasn’t even started*
    *already knows skyrush will be high on the list*

    • @noahkessler5500
      @noahkessler5500 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Beat me to this comment

    • @indian_coaster_enthusiast
      @indian_coaster_enthusiast 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@noahkessler5500 same here

    • @sethbumbaugh6948
      @sethbumbaugh6948 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      i love skyrush lol

    • @sprawlz6466
      @sprawlz6466 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Skyrush is a god tier coaster. Overrated my ass

    • @kingkoopa6442
      @kingkoopa6442 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@sprawlz6466 I wrote my comment before my first trip to Hersheypark, knowing that Airtime Thrills thinks it’s overrated. I went in with low expectations.
      Skyrush is now my #1.

  • @TKDragon75
    @TKDragon75 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Before anyone else can, I'm gonna point out how you called Lightning Rod "Lightning Run".

  • @ThemeParkAvenue
    @ThemeParkAvenue 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Let me say I have lots of respect for you sharing your unpopular opinions. When I made an overrated list, people hated me for it. I respect your boldness, very brave of you. :)

  • @andrewgetty8260
    @andrewgetty8260 3 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    This videos feels very aimed at coaster studios

    • @MagicalBread
      @MagicalBread 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@Ben-oi6kz CS only has 170k, but yeah, I completely agree with you. I stopped watching Coaster Studios and unsubscribed after he filmed himself without a mask at a few parks, turned off comments, attacked concerned commenters including myself, and refused to apologize. Taylor is immature, and arrogant.

    • @robertingram435
      @robertingram435 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Ben-oi6kz wise words

    • @Clay3613
      @Clay3613 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Ben-oi6kz He's good for memes.

    • @andrewgetty8260
      @andrewgetty8260 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I was more talking about the Kumba pick, but ok.

    • @motorwayt-s628
      @motorwayt-s628 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MagicalBread his comments about the actions of one of his...unsavory cronies were also weren’t too good

  • @_lucas_1k_
    @_lucas_1k_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    The comments are about to be a war

  • @TheWarrior949
    @TheWarrior949 3 ปีที่แล้ว +251

    Hot take: The Beast is underrated. I love it. Especially at night, it’s absolutely incredible.

    • @MaireGraves
      @MaireGraves 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      The night ride is THE BEST!!!!

    • @StamfordBridge
      @StamfordBridge 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      My night rides on The Beast are among the most amazing coaster experiences I’ve ever had, but The Beast is SO hard to compare to other coasters because what makes it amazing is just completely different than what makes most other woodies great.

    • @foxcub2yo108
      @foxcub2yo108 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Long live The Beast!

    • @cryptic4762
      @cryptic4762 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      The day time ride isn't anything special. But the night ride? It's the reason the Beast has any place the park. Best night ride in the country hands down. Crazy how much of a difference it makes

    • @mattwindsor1958
      @mattwindsor1958 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I only do night rides on the beast. It’s boring as hell during the day.

  • @AirtimeProductions
    @AirtimeProductions 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    _[Superman: Ultimate Flight has entered the chat]_

    • @jeeperscreepers69
      @jeeperscreepers69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @Zacheroni 🧢

    • @luigiu2174
      @luigiu2174 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I completely agree with you. Oof, i still remember when i ranked it #1 in the park.

    • @Gabes1321
      @Gabes1321 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Which one LOL there’s 4

    • @luigiu2174
      @luigiu2174 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Gabes1321 I'm pretty sure he's talking about the flying coaster at Six flags great america.

    • @Gabes1321
      @Gabes1321 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@luigiu2174 ohhhh okay! Cuz there’s also the flying coaster at great adventure, the one at over Georgia and the skyrocket 2 at discovery kingdom

  • @nei_chan8201
    @nei_chan8201 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    “Lightning Racer is #5 most overrated”
    *HersheyAddict has entered the chat*

    • @johnfoltz8183
      @johnfoltz8183 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      *Skyrush has left the chat*

  • @steveo7771286
    @steveo7771286 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Here I was thinking I was the only one that ranked Dragster in the top 2 at CP. everyone likes to crap on it because it’s short and unreliable. Those things have never been an issue for me. To me, that rush destroys that of any other coaster and I have a lot of patience when it comes to getting the euphoria I get from things like that. Steel Vengeance is the only one I rank higher just because of the insane airtime.

    • @OklahomaCoasterFan
      @OklahomaCoasterFan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I almost typed this, word for word.

    • @steveo7771286
      @steveo7771286 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@OklahomaCoasterFan Lol. Yeah, if I had to choose only one, I’d easily wait 3 hours for Dragster before I’d wait 1 hour for Millie or Maverick. Not that those aren’t amazing rides, that gut punch from Dragster is just on a whole other level.

    • @justiceleaguebattleformetr9239
      @justiceleaguebattleformetr9239 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have it as #1 coaster at Cedar Point. That launch alone was so good that I have to rank it #1 and in my top 5 out of 245 coasters

  • @southpuddle
    @southpuddle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Kumba?! Blasphemer! 😂

  • @CoasterFoxBradB
    @CoasterFoxBradB 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    The State of Pennsylvania taking a beating in this video LOL 🤣

    • @Clay3613
      @Clay3613 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They already suffered enough last November!

    • @CoasterFoxBradB
      @CoasterFoxBradB 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Clay3613 seriously tough season for us Eagles fans. But I will always Bleed Green no matter what happens.

    • @AirtimeThrills
      @AirtimeThrills  3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It gets some redemption soon

    • @CoasterFoxBradB
      @CoasterFoxBradB 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AirtimeThrills Niiiiccceeee 👍

    • @twintimeproductions8700
      @twintimeproductions8700 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@AirtimeThrills ... Fahrenheit?

  • @The_DiZZeL
    @The_DiZZeL 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    BGT is my home park and i absolutely love Kumba, somedays more than montu,

    • @LordMalice6d9
      @LordMalice6d9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      True. There have been days where Kumba had given me better rides than even Montu.

    • @nokrepkie
      @nokrepkie 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LordMalice6d9 all my rides on kumba have been good but slightly worse than montu

    • @andreschiller3578
      @andreschiller3578 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The only reason that Montu beats out Kumba is the tunnels and the batwing at the back, other than that kumba is an amazing ride. And after the new paint it runs so fast that the mid course has to slam on the breaks to slow you down enough. Makes me grey out at the bottom of the loop every time

  • @coastervelocity3899
    @coastervelocity3899 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I actually think Outlaw Run is amazing, every element does something special, and the night rides are insane. The only things are; it’s short and the forces/bumpiness staples you no matter what

    • @OklahomaCoasterFan
      @OklahomaCoasterFan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's the moments of positive G-force that staple you, as the forces are pushing the lap bar down. Lightning Rod does the same thing. I wish they would fix that.

    • @AirtimeThrills
      @AirtimeThrills  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My thoughts exactly

    • @BackSeatJunkie
      @BackSeatJunkie 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The camera flash near dusk and at night destroys the ride experience. You can't see for the rest of the ride which is too short in the first place.

  • @johnepants
    @johnepants 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I originally had The Beast as overrated too. After my first ride, I was wondering where the hell the air time was. After re-riding it multiple times I learned to appreciate what it does, giving that intense ride through the woods. But it was after getting a night ride in the pitch black that really got it for me. Even knowing the layout, it’s amazing whipping through the woods in total darkness

    • @gametime2473
      @gametime2473 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Beast is more of an experience than a standard roller coaster. I love it for what it is. The true work of art in the coaster world IMO is Voyage.

  • @Robert-dv8bz
    @Robert-dv8bz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Hi Chris

    • @thatoneweirdo4864
      @thatoneweirdo4864 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Discord gang

    • @Robert-dv8bz
      @Robert-dv8bz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thatoneweirdo4864 yeeee

    • @runier2352
      @runier2352 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Discord admin gang

    • @bod9373
      @bod9373 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nonar

    • @runier2352
      @runier2352 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bod9373 bod my main man

  • @goose6413
    @goose6413 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Finally someone else thinks Dragster is overrated! I just can't get over the ride time and how underwhelming the drop is despite being 400+ft in the air. The launch is amazing though

    • @TheSonicsean
      @TheSonicsean 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And the line for it is always at least 2 hours long.

    • @DeadAutumnLeaves
      @DeadAutumnLeaves 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I adore it. Front seat never fails to leave me breathless and is worth the wait. That said, it's a one trick pony that breaks down if someone looks at it funny, so I can see where people would be a tad underwhelmed.

  • @yaboijake7867
    @yaboijake7867 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I’m suprised el toro is not on here. It is at my home theme park and every time I ride it it is so rough.

    • @AirtimeThrills
      @AirtimeThrills  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I got it #2 so i cant put it on here

    • @ThisIsBarc99
      @ThisIsBarc99 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      YESSSSS. El Toro is so lame lol.

    • @svis6888
      @svis6888 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Which El Toro though

    • @svis6888
      @svis6888 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThisIsBarc99 So truuuuue El Toro is soooooo forceless

    • @rainityyy
      @rainityyy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@svis6888 um? WHAT!

  • @derpnowitzki1766
    @derpnowitzki1766 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love the Beast and I'll die on that hill, specifically the second lift hill. Something about that slanted descent as you barrel into what is still the best helix I've experienced will always keep it near and dear to me

    • @boltgaming248
      @boltgaming248 ปีที่แล้ว

      the beast has been added to my bucket list

  • @Robert-dv8bz
    @Robert-dv8bz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    as knoebels being my former homepark, I can say with certainty that twister is better than Phoenix

    • @diehardnygiantsfan6569
      @diehardnygiantsfan6569 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Amen to that but Twisters gotten rough on me over the years :(

  • @CanobieCoaster
    @CanobieCoaster 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Boulder Dash was definitely running poorly for you. The return run usually gives a mix of floater airtime and abrupt pops. Night rides on it are particularly special after it has gotten a chance to warm up.

  • @noodle5283
    @noodle5283 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Ooof, I don't think twister gets enough attention. Phoenix gets all the praise, but twister is over there just doin its thing

  • @annoyingperson2255
    @annoyingperson2255 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    7:55 sad Hershey addict noices

    • @HersheyAddict
      @HersheyAddict 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      yep :/

    • @bandoballerina
      @bandoballerina 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ugh yeah I was so sad 😞 I love lightning racer! It might be the nostalgia talking though 😅

    • @pearldiver19
      @pearldiver19 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I love it too, but the green side is definitely better (imo).

  • @Feuerfr3i
    @Feuerfr3i 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Magnum XL200 is the most overrated coaster to me. Also, there's so much questionable blasphemy here.

    • @danielvilla8849
      @danielvilla8849 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought for sure Magnum was going to be on the list.

    • @ultibolt3286
      @ultibolt3286 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@danielvilla8849 I know it has been four months but you are aware that his second favorite coaster at Cedar Point right?

  • @wywycat
    @wywycat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    When your home park is Hershey and I know Chris is gonna trash skyrush 😶😭😭😭

  • @mrquavers
    @mrquavers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    the most overrated coaster ive ridden is catipillar coaster at dudley zoo

  • @cycloid2326
    @cycloid2326 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I hope you can get back on Boulder Dash when it’s been running all day, cause you’ll get solid floater and mild ejector on every hill on the return trip. Also, I personally think the roughness adds to the ride and compliments the setting.

  • @CoasterCrest
    @CoasterCrest 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I was just at Busch Gardens Tampa for my first time a week ago, and Kumba was my favorite coaster there! Montu is a pretty close #2, and the 2 of them are probably my favorite B&Ms that aren't hypers, gigas, or flyers, but still, #2. Kumba is just so fast, its incredible. The vertical loop gives me an odd sensation of "butterflies in my stomach" every time, especially toward the back. I don't even really get that feeling from any other coasters anymore, so it is odd. Then, the zero-g roll is absolutely fantastic, and gives whippy airtime coming down from it. Kumba next tears through the cobra roll at breakneck speeds before reaching the MCBR. the corkscrews are alright, and then the tunnel is really cool - AND THEN YOU CAN REACH OUT AND TOUCH THE GRASS to your right!!! How cool is that??? With its recent re-paint, it also looks absolutely gorgeous, and the setting is overall cool. Plus, I like how it has a floor to rest my feet on, as opposed to inverts and floorless coasters that drag my legs down and create an uncomfortable pressure on my thighs, probably cutting off a bit of bloodflow to my lower legs.

  • @itsmetimtim
    @itsmetimtim 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Honestly, even if you don't really like laterals that much, you can still understand that Twister at Knoebels compliments the Phoenix perfectly. They are like polar opposites, one throws you out of your seat, while the other squishes you down. I've had times on the Twister when I couldn't keep my hands up due to the intense positive G's. And the laterals after you roll off each chain lift into the corners, you feel like you'll fall off the ride (in a good way). For such a small park, they have such a good selection of rides. Give the Twister another shot, it's at it's best on a dry summer night.👍

  • @badgerstatecoasters7725
    @badgerstatecoasters7725 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Velocicoaster will be on here when it opens

    • @Benny-hd7tz
      @Benny-hd7tz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lil phantom is meh

    • @luigiu2174
      @luigiu2174 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Uh oh

    • @dojavillager5998
      @dojavillager5998 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Zacheroni RMC pretty much always matches the hype though lol.

    • @ThrillsofColdplay
      @ThrillsofColdplay 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Benny-hd7tz those are hate words even when people are being sarcastic about loving it so much

  • @Lucky_9705
    @Lucky_9705 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’ve been to Lake Compounce and ridden Boulder Dash during its peak operating time as well as when it still had the triple up. And I have to say that it’s an elite coaster. When it warms up, the entire ride is extremely forceful with some excellent laterals and sustained airtime on almost every hill. It could be smoother, but I think the bumpiness adds to the experience because of how well the ride maintains its speed. The uncontrollable feeling throughout is truly surreal.

    • @MattMcIrvin
      @MattMcIrvin ปีที่แล้ว

      The last time I rode Boulder Dash (in early August) it was still an overwhelming experience, but it had gotten so rough that I wasn't sure it was overwhelming in a good way. It's jackhammering disturbingly hard these days--I think they need to do something about it. I noticed that people seemed to be coming off of it very quiet.
      The forces are good but to me, thinking about it after my most recent ride, the highlight isn't so much the airtime as the laterals on the turnaround and the positives in the valleys on the return run. I still rate it high but with an asterisk, so to speak--for what it was in the past, and the potential of what it could be if they clean it up.

  • @jstarASMR3103
    @jstarASMR3103 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Recently visited Knoebels, and I can tell the single only bit of airtime you get on Twister is on the last little bunny hop hill before returning to the station. And funny enough, you get that airtime in the front row! Other than that, yeah this ride isn't meant for airtime, rather, for the speed and the other forces. I still love the coaster, but like you, am always itching for some airtime when riding it!

  • @lR1ftzl
    @lR1ftzl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why u call hang time a BnM looper? Isn’t it Guerslauer

  • @DaltonOTD
    @DaltonOTD 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    When I went to the park in 2019, I was pretty surprised that Maverick turned out to be my favorite one there, let alone my number 1 coaster. Steel Vengeance is a close second but I got so stapled on it that a good chunk of the elements were a bit dull or straight up painful like the finale of little airtime hills. I owe it to the ride to ride it again after learning some tricks on how not to get so stapled though, but for now Maverick beats it out imo

    • @seancamp2703
      @seancamp2703 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @Dalton I like Maverick better than Steel Vengeance also. But I will say at night it seems they speed Steel Vengeance up a little.

  • @pacevoez1929
    @pacevoez1929 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "Batman the ride, at most six flags parks" I don't know why this is funny since it is true

  • @shmeetz9
    @shmeetz9 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've been able to do boulderdash once and holy cow it was incredible. The last half I was barely in my seat with airtime, so imagine my surprise when you said you got no airtime

    • @evelynsmith8419
      @evelynsmith8419 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Alec Pizarro have you been on phobia phear yet

    • @crooked-halo
      @crooked-halo ปีที่แล้ว

      This is a thing with wood coasters. Several years ago Legend was a terrible, rough ride with very uncomfortable Gerstlauer trains. Now it's been re-tracked & has run PTCs. It's totally different. Smooth, with insane laterals, a wonderful ride. Ghostrider had gotten rough. After renovation it's completely different. El Toro last year had several potholes that were so strong I couldn't enjoy the ride, and it had a weird vibration throughout. It used to be glass smooth.

  • @falloutfan6649
    @falloutfan6649 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It’s funny that you and many other enthusiasts consider Maverick a good supporting coaster and yet every time I go the line is ridiculous as if it’s the star attraction. And as much as I like the ride it’s just not worth it when I can walk over to Magnum and get thrown out of my seat or ride Raptor and get the intense Gs

    • @AirtimeThrills
      @AirtimeThrills  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Even with 6 trains the line is crazy

  • @3minuteadventures966
    @3minuteadventures966 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I always thought Hershey Park could benefit from an RMC treatment. I was of the belief that they RMC'd Wildcat, making it possibly one of the best RMC retracks. But hearing him talk about Lightning Racer the way he did made me realize that an RMC mobius Lightning Racer would be so much cooler.

    • @DoswarePictures
      @DoswarePictures 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They’re not, they’re just gonna tear down one of the tracks just like every other dueling coaster that isn’t Colossus.

    • @3minuteadventures966
      @3minuteadventures966 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@DoswarePictures Oh for sure. Lightning Racer is HUGE. It would be a helluva a lot of money to RMC the entirety of both sides. I know it won't actually happen, just wishful thinking.

    • @sum_rand0m
      @sum_rand0m 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And here we are

    • @jeo33466
      @jeo33466 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good news, you predicted Rmc Wildcat

  • @triton6127
    @triton6127 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video! I say I’ve ridden about half of the coasters on your list. I agree with a lot and there were a few that made me go, “Wait... people actually like that coaster??” I found when I disagreed, it was because of one of two things - One, (which you mentioned) is the atmosphere. I love a coaster that takes you out into the woods or gives you some cool scenery to look at. And two, most of these I rode when they first debuted (such as Batman: The Ride at SFGA). Those experiences are unforgettable! And even when I ride a Batman clone today, I still get that memory of the first time. Granted they may be tame by today’s standards, but there’s still something about that Maiden Voyage! Thanks again for making such a great channel!

  • @wicked3212
    @wicked3212 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You sir are insane! Mavrik is amazing

  • @connorberry9766
    @connorberry9766 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I think outlaw run's largest issue is its runtime. It just needs to add something

    • @AirtimeThrills
      @AirtimeThrills  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Its definitely an issue but i think its potholes are worse

    • @BackSeatJunkie
      @BackSeatJunkie 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      My very first ride as we went flying into the brake run...... I screamed "needs to be about a mile longer".

  • @isaacjohnson9276
    @isaacjohnson9276 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Disagree with your take on Mind Bender. I’ve ridden it somewhere in between 50-100 times over the past 11 years (SFOG is my home park). It’s my favorite ride in the park, also our Batman is the best from what I hear. Short but sweet. I’m not a fan of the soft redo they have done to our Gotham City either. Some of that classic Burton-esque atmosphere is gone in favor of generic and minimalistic signage and cramming carnival rides into the plaza instead of actually tearing down the axis theater for addition that could be used in that space.

    • @zachisback698
      @zachisback698 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mind Bender is awesome! It was one of the first thrill coasters I ever rode and I always look forward to it. Do you know if they’re done with the track work/paint yet?
      Not a huge invert guy though, so Batman doesn’t really do it for me. I really only ride Mind Bender, Twisted Cyclone, Goliath, and Pandemonium when I go. We need a launch coaster!

    • @isaacjohnson9276
      @isaacjohnson9276 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zachisback698 I was there maybe two months ago and they weren’t finished. I would imagine they will be done by the spring, if not already. Yes we absolutely do! Hopefully next year, that’s the main thing missing from their collection. They had Viper, a shuttle looper, in the 90’s, but Superman replaced it and it went to Kentucky Kingdom.

    • @zenverak
      @zenverak 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I dislike the newer themeing for batman. Made it less fun. But agreed, out Batman is....well last time I rode it I just felt like it never stopped and man it was awesome. But Mind Bender is special because its ours.

  • @lessardo87
    @lessardo87 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    #1 should be Magnum XL200

    • @Clay3613
      @Clay3613 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed, the ride hurts if you get a shitty car!

    • @ayanadixon4763
      @ayanadixon4763 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I still like Magnum, but it simply hasn't aged well and can beat you up.

  • @CoasterRoaster
    @CoasterRoaster 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Yep your intro perfectly sums up my thoughts on Viper at SFGAm lol

    • @luigiu2174
      @luigiu2174 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      *big gasp
      (But i respect your opinions)

    • @JoeVegan83
      @JoeVegan83 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's my home park and I completely agree with your assessment of Viper.

  • @darkridedan1
    @darkridedan1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for your commentary on Lightning Racer. I’ve ridden it since day 1 and I’ve never gotten it. It was better when it was new, but I always preferred Rolling Thunder. I like air time and scenery. RT was at my old home park and LR is at my current home park. I would ride RT at least twice a visit and usually both sides. I usually ride 1 side of LR and I walk away.
    I also don’t get The Beast and Kumba is trash. It ruined my last visit to BGA. We all finished the day with a headache.

  • @seangearhart2494
    @seangearhart2494 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "...I prefer size and duration."
    #ThatsWhatSheSaid

  • @chris99444ify
    @chris99444ify 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Magnumxl200 i feel is overrated. Rode in the magic seat, when it stopped, I felt like I needed a chiropractor when I got off. For me that is a once and done.

    • @danbert8
      @danbert8 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Magnum can definitely be rough depending on the conditions, but I can't see it being overrated considering the lines... I'd say at Cedar Point Magnum is the best ride/wait ratio as even on crowded days you can ride Magnum with a 15-30 minute wait vs hours for the other big rides. Nobody is going to Cedar Point to ride Magnum anymore, but if you're there it's still a great ride. it's usually my warmup ride at park opening and you can often ride it with no wait several times as everyone goes to stand around and wait for other rides to open.

    • @AdamS32828
      @AdamS32828 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree, the first half isn’t all that special and the “best part” of the ride was downright uncomfortable in my experience

  • @awnordma
    @awnordma 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've been a bit surprised how much love Maverick get. It's been a while since my last and age may have made it more interesting. I definitely felt that was the case with millennium force, when it opened it just felt big, fast and kind of boring. Riding it a over decade later it felt loose and more interesting.

  • @Lukinshed
    @Lukinshed 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Time Traveler... rode it 5 times and I found it meh at best. The big break section in the middle killed any momentum, it felt like a gimmick not a WORLD CLASS INNOVATION.

    • @luigiu2174
      @luigiu2174 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I can see that, but i personally like it.

    • @DoswarePictures
      @DoswarePictures 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Every innovation is a gimmick.

  • @tismejaytee
    @tismejaytee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Glad I’m not the only one who thinks Kumba is highly overrated

    • @shadesfromikea
      @shadesfromikea 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      OMG YES ITS SO OVERRATED

    • @tismejaytee
      @tismejaytee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@shadesfromikea Agreed

  • @ShockerTopper
    @ShockerTopper ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I thought the exact same thing of Hangtime. I actually didn't get to ride it until Knott's first reopened in 2021, and I was SO disappointed. I just had such high expectations. And because of the circumstances they didn't fill the car up (actually I don't think there were enough in line lol); I tried justifying that for why it seemed SO slow and boring. But, nope not the case...it just sucks honestly. I'll take Boomerang back over having that. While they're at it bring back the Dinosaur (Time Machine) ride!
    This is embarrassing but I still haven't ridden an RMC Raptor...and I have no excuse being in Orange County. It's just SO far to Santa Clarita from where I am, I know it's nothing like driving all the way to SF or something. However, for a destination spot you're going to go round trip, it is pretty far. It's one of those places that's too far to go on a regular basis but too close to justify staying at a hotel.

  • @colinbatten2365
    @colinbatten2365 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    To be honest I’m really not that impressed with Mystic Timber’s

    • @leitakcoc
      @leitakcoc 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here. Sure it had length and it was constantly going through elements, but it isn’t intense enough to me.

    • @andrewgetty8260
      @andrewgetty8260 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is going to get some people mad

    • @maxhagenauer24
      @maxhagenauer24 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I 100% agree, you should read my comment of it.

    • @AirtimeThrills
      @AirtimeThrills  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Im the opposite. One of the best woodies ever

  • @kylebicker8179
    @kylebicker8179 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    5:35 What in the name of blackjack?

  • @zander_19
    @zander_19 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Me: Sees title
    Also me: excited for another Skyrush roast session

    • @razor.2.rosary
      @razor.2.rosary 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      another fellow rangers fan focusing on the skyrush section i see 👀

  • @wolfnav21
    @wolfnav21 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I rode Kumba once and will never ride it again. It made me nauseous and that normally doesn’t happen. It seemed like it true to hard to get inversion, but it ended up just ruining the experience

  • @rushingthrills6021
    @rushingthrills6021 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Steel Vengeance is overrated. Sorry SV fanboys🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @mariaenvoikertoa
    @mariaenvoikertoa 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What´s that symbol you have between the ride and park names? It seems really familiar and it´s bothering me that I can´t figure it out :´D

  • @michael_Calhoun
    @michael_Calhoun 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I personally think hades is overrated, I rode it when everyone was raving about it and not talking about it’s roughness, so when I rode it I was thinking it would be a smooth gravity group, but boy was I wrong

    • @randomchannel-px6ho
      @randomchannel-px6ho 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The parking lot island section of the ride that was built in 2013 is smooth but the rest of the ride is pretty old and hasn't been all that well maintained.

    • @michael_Calhoun
      @michael_Calhoun 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@randomchannel-px6ho agreed, I could definitely feel it get smoother when I headed into the inversion

    • @righthearproductions8934
      @righthearproductions8934 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Regarding Mt. Olympus, if you ask me, Cyclops is where it's at :)

    • @michael_Calhoun
      @michael_Calhoun 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@righthearproductions8934 in my opinion, Zeus in the afternoon back row ride is amazing

    • @AirtimeThrills
      @AirtimeThrills  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The roughness can grind you down, i definitely do not recommend marathoning it

  • @matthewp7667
    @matthewp7667 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    best time of year to get a bolderdash is late in the season during their holloween event at night. (and also it happens to be hot out 70 deg. or more) (also front row ride all day if you want airtime)

  • @brokencoasters1342
    @brokencoasters1342 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    sleep vengeance is the most overrated coaster ever

    • @kylebetz9684
      @kylebetz9684 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I guess... if it’s running slow

    • @ukiarcticfox
      @ukiarcticfox 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kinda.. it's definitely a really good ride, but I guess I can agree if you specifically mean the airtime.
      To me at first people described it as like El Toro level airtime when it's really more drawn out and less strong airtime. I personally don't have it ranked too high, but it's still a great coaster.

    • @jamesmeyer9574
      @jamesmeyer9574 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed, I liked TT better . It’s still amazing though and worth the long wait.

  • @willkelly9899
    @willkelly9899 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m probably gonna get death threats from this but Ghostrider felt like just an average, mediocre woodie to me.
    To be fair, I’ve only rode it once in 2011, long before the GCI retrack. And I got a bug in my eye on the first turn-around, so the remainder of the ride was excruciating pain and trying to get it out while being tossed around by laterals.
    I really need to get back to Knotts to see if I can get a better ride.

    • @julien3032
      @julien3032 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow. Keeping you in my thoughts.

    • @OklahomaCoasterFan
      @OklahomaCoasterFan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I see it as a slightly above average woodie. I got about 8 rides, including night rides, over 2 days in 2018, then another ride on my 2020 visit, and I felt the same about it with every ride. I'm missing something with that one.

  • @zachcoastercrazy4032
    @zachcoastercrazy4032 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A ride that I probably overrate is Gemini. I say it is one of my favorite coasters ever, but many say it is just good. I just have so much fun on it though.

    • @coasterboy6896
      @coasterboy6896 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Back seat first drop on Gemini is one of my favorite first drops, and I love the drop before the midcourse. Otherwise, it’s okay. Rather ride the arrow next door :)

    • @mightydegu
      @mightydegu 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a solid ride. I never skip it when I'm at CP.

  • @stephenbarr5362
    @stephenbarr5362 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where is Raptor @ Cedar Point?

  • @mikiemayo
    @mikiemayo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    RIde lighting racer in the front.

  • @MelissaJMassey
    @MelissaJMassey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Last time I rode Skyrush, it felt like I was being dragged through each element instead of going with the ride. I spent more time trying to get get myself back upright than anything else, which made it hard to enjoy the elements of the ride. Yet everyone always ranks it above Great Bear and Fahrenheit and even Storm Runner. I never understood that.

    • @lastone032085
      @lastone032085 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sounds like you have weak core/neck strength.

  • @annoyingperson2255
    @annoyingperson2255 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Chris agree or disagree Missouri parks have the best centerpieces/entry sign

    • @DoswarePictures
      @DoswarePictures 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Eh, Wisconsin and Minnesota have way better signs.

    • @Oggy3000_
      @Oggy3000_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No, Alton Towers

    • @AirtimeThrills
      @AirtimeThrills  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wof and sdc are definitely great. And i guess sfstl got a new one which is good cuz when i went last they had no sign at all

  • @facepillownap
    @facepillownap 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Man I have amazing memories of Kumba on a dead day when the ride operators would just let you stay on for as many laps as you wanted.

  • @theunknown0887
    @theunknown0887 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Most overrated coasters for me are B&M hypers but I’m not a big fan of floater so I’ll let them pass

    • @overbanked
      @overbanked 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They are so temperamental too. I rode good and bad Intimidator, and good and bad Goliath(SFOG)

    • @theunknown0887
      @theunknown0887 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@overbanked everybody raves about intimidator at carowinds and I thought fury, afterburn, hurler, and flying cobras was better

    • @overbanked
      @overbanked 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theunknown0887 IMO most enthusiasts think that Intimidators best days is behind it. Although at one time long ago, it used to give notable airtime.

    • @theunknown0887
      @theunknown0887 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@overbanked if I can give intimidator one thing I love the theme, comfortable trains, and first drop

  • @charlesmayer8498
    @charlesmayer8498 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I agree with many of your selections, however....Outlaw Run?! During the day that's a top 3 RMC in NA and at night it's #1 for me. The pacing/sequencing is just perfect. Throw in the setting and the absolute darkness... Yes I wish it was longer but still

  • @ArtiicXD
    @ArtiicXD 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    2 words
    *Millennium Force*

    • @DoswarePictures
      @DoswarePictures 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Eh, not as many people have praised it as much as others.

    • @kylebetz9684
      @kylebetz9684 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      BRO WHO IS PRAISING MILLENIUM FORCE SO MUCH OTHER THAN THE GOLDEN TICKET AWARDS?

    • @DoswarePictures
      @DoswarePictures 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kylebetz9684 sorry, I guess it was a typo. I meant to say not as much as a few years ago.

    • @ArtiicXD
      @ArtiicXD 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kylebetz9684 *cough* Cedar Point Fan Boys *cough*

    • @jameslitwin5635
      @jameslitwin5635 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      no

  • @Wesley-76
    @Wesley-76 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I went into this list not expecting, but thinking about the 1 coaster I think is overrated, and it surprised me to see it as #1! Kumba is forceful and fun, has a cool layout, looks really nice, and has tunnels, but it gave me a headache. This was my first time experiencing the infamous B&M Rattle, and oh boy it made my neck hurt a few days after, so I unfortunately didn't enjoy the forcefulness of Kraken, Mako, Montu, or Tigris as much as I would have otherwise. Still a good ride, but it should be fixed to be smoother. And yes, it's layout isn't amazing either. #4 at the park for me, behind Tigris, Montu, and Cheetah Hunt, and close to Cobra's Curse.

  • @coastercraziness
    @coastercraziness 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’d put the Raptors so much higher but I’m glad someone agrees even if it’s for different reasons than me 😂

  • @hypnagogue
    @hypnagogue 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    kumba slander will not be tolerated bruh. millennium force deserves #1 spot bc it's pretty good but doesn't deserve all the circlejerking around it

  • @lennart4930
    @lennart4930 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The most overrated coaster I've ridden is Taron. Yeah, the theming is amazing and the layout is good, but it is not the most forcefull ride and it doesn't offers the most and best airtime

    • @AirtimeThrills
      @AirtimeThrills  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ive definitely heard that before, and can see it

    • @oofintic5734
      @oofintic5734 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah the coaster looks not the best, Taiga look 1 million x better

  • @joshuabates4759
    @joshuabates4759 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just wanted to comment on Twister at Knoebels. Hershey Park is my home park (pass holders this year) but we also frequent Knoebels. I would suggest the preference for Twister over Phoenix or other coasters would come down to what the individual rider prefers. I would guess as Airtime Thrills, Phoenix is way higher rated for you.
    I personally like Twister better than Phoenix, but my wife prefers Phoenix over Twister. My wife, like you, likes the air time, and feeling of floating off of the seats, etc. I prefer the speed feel with the banked turns and G's.
    Both are great for different reasons, and obviously for someone looking for Airtime..... not all coasters will hit that mark.
    Happy riding!

  • @discmaster7895
    @discmaster7895 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You should do roller coaster simulation game

  • @ZPierce767676
    @ZPierce767676 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have you did a night ride on the beast?

  • @traindocumentaryclub1454
    @traindocumentaryclub1454 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Did anyone else notice valraven in the background at the start

  • @dylanradtke
    @dylanradtke 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I mean it's your opinions but you clearly are biased against coasters that aren't tall lol man there's so much more to a coaster than height. Shorter slower coasters can have shorter radius turns and change directions faster which is actually a benefit, but to each their own

  • @thatoneweirdo4864
    @thatoneweirdo4864 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Mystic Timbers.
    All I have to say

    • @luigiu2174
      @luigiu2174 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i can see that
      ( :l

    • @Mechum22
      @Mechum22 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yep, Mystic tops the list for me. Definitely a fun ride, but it doesn’t showcase what GCI does best.

    • @ThrillsofColdplay
      @ThrillsofColdplay 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It felt way too short I was so excited to ride it

  • @hellacia8151
    @hellacia8151 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Here's mine: Apocalypse at Magic Mountain. And I blame Taylor from CS for this one. He had it at #3, as well as knowing the retrack that was recently done. The general sentiment I've also heard was it was a really good coaster and one of the best. I finally got on it, I didn't find any of the crazy airtime I heard it had, and that thing rattled my bones to hell and back. The layout is still good for the crazy intensity and laterals, but I cannot see this going over WCR and ESPECIALLY Tatsu and WW FOC.

  • @dorth09
    @dorth09 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Controversial opinion: Intensity normally doesn't improve a ride, sometimes even makes it worse. Hangtime is better

    • @AirtimeThrills
      @AirtimeThrills  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I do think a ride needs a minimum level of intensity to make it good. Some of these rides dont hit that mark

    • @dorth09
      @dorth09 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AirtimeThrills Yeah agree. But old school B&Ms are just boring

  • @kevinmcwilliams5362
    @kevinmcwilliams5362 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kumba, Maverick, and The Beast are not overrated coasters. Each one is among the best at their respective parks.

  • @colemouledous4817
    @colemouledous4817 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I agree with literally every point except for maybe Lightning Racer. Especially Kumba, I don’t understand the hype, and it’s not gonna be top 3 in the park next year when I “hopefully” visit

    • @zacharygiles2984
      @zacharygiles2984 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      you have an incorrect opinion

    • @julien3032
      @julien3032 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I’ve gotten some amazing rides on Kumba, where it was running super fast. I have never experienced any other ride with stronger positive gs than Kumba when it runs fast. Also, since it’s towards the back of the park, it doesn’t get a line, so it’s easy to marathon.

    • @chipwatford7676
      @chipwatford7676 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Kumba has its moments, and if you catch in on a good day it may surprise you, but Montu is the superior ride by far, especially if you can get in the back row

    • @zacharygiles2984
      @zacharygiles2984 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@chipwatford7676 nah kumba is better than montu

    • @chipwatford7676
      @chipwatford7676 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@zacharygiles2984 why do you say that?

  • @theaverageDon
    @theaverageDon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Alright, you lost me at calling The Beast overrated. Which makes me wonder, what is your criteria based on?

  • @chuck5451
    @chuck5451 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You might be the worst coaster enthusiast in the world. And that is for 1 reason. Batman. Batman is one of the greatest roller coasters in the United States. I have been to the on in six flags St. Louis and i have ridden it upwards of 15 times in a row. Batman is amazing.

  • @100DollarHeadache
    @100DollarHeadache 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Steel Force is very inconsistent. My 2017 rides were duds, while my 2019 rides delivered. I guess it depends on the wind. Knoebels Twister overrated? I always thought it was overshadowed by Phoenix and doesn't get enough love.

  • @VioletCoronet50
    @VioletCoronet50 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Tennessee Tornado is the most overrated coaster I've ridden

  • @RhynoBytes857
    @RhynoBytes857 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's funny that you say HangTime is overrated because I thought that GhostRider was overrated. I found it to be really rough and not all that enjoyable. I preferred Silver Bullet, Xcelerator, and HangTime over GhostRider (in that order).

    • @AirtimeThrills
      @AirtimeThrills  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's interesting you found Ghostrider rough. After its retrack I think its the perfect level of bumpy

  • @coltonthedrummer
    @coltonthedrummer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don’t get how anyone could ever place Cheetah Hunt above Kumba.
    Busch was my home park for awhile and Montu and Kumba have always battled for my first spot, with Montu usually winning.

  • @AE0320
    @AE0320 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Me: Has maverick as no.1
    Thrills: calls it overrated
    Me: 0:

  • @richey0995
    @richey0995 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Personally I don’t find any roller coasters to be overrated, other than the painful ones that get gassed up for being intense like magnum xl 200 and afterburn.

  • @Maya_Ruinz
    @Maya_Ruinz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was how I felt about S&S free spin clones, they don't have the same force of coasters or the intense Gs you can get from a flat ride so I asked "what is the point of these?". Sure you get to spin while moving over a track I mean... I guess that is ok but I just don't get anything from them except pain from being thrown against the harness.

  • @AdamS32828
    @AdamS32828 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My overrated picks are Magnum and (I know this one is definitely not a popular opinion) Twisted Timbers. Magnum’s first half is pretty uninteresting, and the turnaround has some pretty uncomfortable banking. I accidentally rode in the magic row during my last visit to CP before I knew that it was a thing, and the violent airtime at the end was so uncomfortable for me that I didn’t even think about riding it a second time. For TT, I rode it less than a month after SV, so I think that comparison being fresh in my mind may have hurt how I see it. I’m not really a fan of the smaller outer banked turns (I have the same problem with wicked cyclone), but the triple camelbacks were very good, I just wasn’t super moved by the rest of the ride.

  • @landanwehner8137
    @landanwehner8137 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How u finna put top thrill on there and not kingda ka when top thrill is better

  • @VWdabug
    @VWdabug 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:02 you called lightning rod lightning run

  • @oldchannel611
    @oldchannel611 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hearing your opinion on Loopers like Hangtime and the B&Ms to me is so alienating because you do not know the small park struggle. You do not know the pain of having your closest park be two hours away, and the best rides being a Batman The Ride Clone and a mini hyper, with the #3 in the park being an SLC. I’d kill for any of these rides near me. I get your purpose with the video, you’re talking about these coasters on a worldwide scale, but I think a lot of the praise you hear for some of these rides are from thoosies who don’t have nearly as many credits as you but aren’t quite GP. Not everyone has an elite scale in mind