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Cantique de Jean Racine, French diction for choirs

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ธ.ค. 2022
  • A French diction coaching for choral conductors and singers of "Cantique de Jean Racine" by Gabriel Fauré
    Follow along with the text here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantiqu...
    Opening and closing music: • Cantique de Jean Racin...
    Pronunciation of "les, des, ses": bdl.oqlf.gouv.qc.ca/bdl/gabar...
    Some of you asked... here's the link to my Latin mass tutorials playlist: • Latin Mass Ordinary fo...

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  • @peggykilgore7491
    @peggykilgore7491 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you. Great French diction for this wonderful music.

  • @Yoli-H
    @Yoli-H 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Teacher, I am very grateful for your class. Thanks for sharing 🙌🏻✨👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  • @Downthebayou
    @Downthebayou 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    BRAVO! Thank you so much! I am a Francophone and was looking for a ready-to-go resource for my choir in the US. There are some on TH-cam that are de la merde! Bless you!

    • @SopranoJoan
      @SopranoJoan  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Merci beaucoup! J'apprécie énormément votre commentaire. En effet, pas toujours évident de trouver ce qu'on veut pour nos chorales. Donc j'imagine toujours un peu ma chorale quand je fais les vidéos.
      Je me lance aussi dans le Latin! Je viens de poster une vidéo de pronciation générale et je travaille maintenant sur les textes des messes etc.

    • @locksleyphillips6222
      @locksleyphillips6222 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for you simple clear method of explaining the rule why you make that particular sound and how you do it. Extremely useful and logical.

  • @KayakerKasey
    @KayakerKasey ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow! I love singing in Latin, German, Spanish, but have such a hard time in French, but YOU give me some great clues about how to do this, Many thanks!!!

  • @sakurasuzuki9575
    @sakurasuzuki9575 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thank you so much for all the work you've put in here! You're fabulous and you make our lives so much easier!
    I teach a choir in Japan and we have a whole different set of challenges here, but we're thriving!
    Thank you for sharing your blessings

  • @mariaclaraguerra258
    @mariaclaraguerra258 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you ! It’s really helpful for those who are not familiar with French language.

  • @kathleenperchtold9455
    @kathleenperchtold9455 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You were excellent in your explaination. Thank you very much.

  • @RichardSamAwuy
    @RichardSamAwuy 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you so much for your detail explanation and examples. Blessings from Indonesia!

  • @tripthegurl4275
    @tripthegurl4275 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Delightful and so very helpful! Thank you!

  • @evelinereherreher7049
    @evelinereherreher7049 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love your explanations! Thank you!

  • @stanevsi
    @stanevsi 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Joan, your video gave me hope I'll be able to sing this one. Our Bulgarian choir is currently learning this beautiful piece and struggling quite a bit with the text. I'll make sure to share your wonderful tutorial with them, thank you!

  • @younheechoi4715
    @younheechoi4715 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you very much for kind sharing. It really saves me.. Thank you

  • @sandrareid7276
    @sandrareid7276 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Joan. Every little aid helps!

  • @DGMeacock
    @DGMeacock 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Well done. Very easy to follow and just the right gap to be able to stop and restart at the end of each line for saying it back. The changing colour of the text makes replays of individual lines easier to find. Merci!

    • @SopranoJoan
      @SopranoJoan  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you! I appreciate you taking the time to write. Good to know what is working.

  • @johnnyjoosten4152
    @johnnyjoosten4152 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you very much, I like your explanation..

  • @PaulDeCamp
    @PaulDeCamp 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I definitely could have used this a few months ago. It's Tuesday and our oratorio (Oratorio Society of Queens) is having its concert this Sunday. I will pass this on anyway. This is definitely a great help. We were getting all advice from people who have French as a second language.

    • @SopranoJoan
      @SopranoJoan  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad it can be of some assistance. You might be able to zero in on a few key fixes, if you spot any glaring issues. I completely understand your situation, you've described exactly what I imagine many choirs are struggling with. It's not about perfection, it's making the musical phrase come to life. Good luck on Sunday.

  • @cchan4179
    @cchan4179 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you very much!

  • @baladine28
    @baladine28 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Merci beaucoup

  • @porterfr
    @porterfr ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Saved, subscribed, and sharing! Tres cher-ing, certes!

  • @paulusrimba8417
    @paulusrimba8417 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    So grateful for your teaching ! TQQQQQ

  • @user-dw1fy4lp1d
    @user-dw1fy4lp1d ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is just so helpful & meticulously done - Thanks/Merci! I especially valued the point about not closing the nasal vowel when it's followed by a consonant - a particularly bad habit of mine!
    I would just point out 2 adjustments that I would propose:
    1) In "Christ sois favourable a ce..." [bar 61 in my copy], the "BLE" of favouraBLE is on the same note as "a", so the rule we have been given is: Combine the consonant(s) of the leading syllable with the vowel sound of the second", which gives the combined sound of "BLA". Similarly in bar 71 with "ta gloiRE IMmortelle", where you combine the RE & the IM on the same note into RIM (nasal vowel!).
    2) In "a ta gloire" for the altos & tenors (in my SATB copy) the 2 syllables in sung gloi-re are on 2 notes so it becomes 2 separate syllables: GLOI + RE.
    @Joan, I hope you approve, let me know...!

    • @SopranoJoan
      @SopranoJoan  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What you describe sounds correct to me! (I don't have the score in front of me at the moment but if I don't reply now I might forget!)

    • @prevaric
      @prevaric 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      no, the first syllable of "immortelle" is not nasal /ε/ - just a straight /i/. it's correctly modeled in the video, and she does warn that not every vowel followed by m or n will be nasal.

  • @gnr331
    @gnr331 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My favorite song to sing. Pure Magic! Great video!

  • @RaeWeniger
    @RaeWeniger 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Joan you were my go to girl for masks during covid! Nice to have you as a go to for perfecting my pronunciation. Additionally, you are lovely! Beautiful eyes!

    • @SopranoJoan
      @SopranoJoan  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you! It's been an adventure. :)

  • @annaseggi7088
    @annaseggi7088 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Grazie!

  • @clairau
    @clairau 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This tuto is extremely well conducted and must be very useful. The lady could very well be an Anglophone Canadian (from the quality of her English). Her French is perfect though. When she says 'Cantique de Jean Racine' at the beginning, she clearly has a Quebecer accent, as it is natural for an Anglo-Canadian. Also she 'rolls' the R when reading the lyrics (in French, we say 'rouler' les R). It's very nice, it sounds like they prononce it in Auvergne ou Bourgogne.

    • @SopranoJoan
      @SopranoJoan  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Merci! ❤️ I am French Canadian. Don't be fooled by my English name. I'm originally from Québec. ;)

    • @SopranoJoan
      @SopranoJoan  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Je ne parle pas normalement avec le R roulé au bout de la langue, je le fais ici parce-que c'est l'approche employée en chant classique. Celà dit, cette prononciation a beaucoup évolué depuis les dernières décennies et est beaucoup moins prononcé aujourd'hui.

  • @arthurdent7509
    @arthurdent7509 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very good, thank you. The only thing I am not sure about is the glottal stop in 'tres-haut' in the first line; I can't find a recording of any French choir that do this. Certainly there is no 's' sound, but a glottal disturbs the requirement for legato.

    • @SopranoJoan
      @SopranoJoan  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, I agree. I probably should not have said that it should have a glottal, I think I was trying to emphasize the absence of the liaison.
      Thanks for the comment! It's helpful to have the discussion. And thanks for watching!

  • @edwardgordonrowlands1126
    @edwardgordonrowlands1126 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Many thanks. Our English choir will be singing this and other work by French composers in June. I normally sing in the chorus but I will also be singing solo the beautiful hymn Cantique by Nadia Boulanger, words by Maurice Maeterlinck. I would be very pleased to have a coaching video for this hymn to help me do it justice and to bring the hymn to a wider audience through your excellent TH-cam channel.

    • @SopranoJoan
      @SopranoJoan  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's great. I did a whole recital on Lili and Nadia Boulanger's aid efforts during WWI. Are you referring to the "Lux aeterna" by Nadia? (oops... that's Latin!) That was my closing piece for the recital and I used to have my children's choir sing it in November. Tell me more, I would love to help. I am focusing on choral music, but I have a soft spot for the Boulanger sisters. You can email me through my website: www.joanfearnley.com.

  • @user-kr9ny6if2t
    @user-kr9ny6if2t ปีที่แล้ว +1

    10:49

  • @aretesingers
    @aretesingers ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Merci beaucoup! How about tackling Poulenc's Litanies de la Vierge noire

    • @SopranoJoan
      @SopranoJoan  ปีที่แล้ว

      What a great idea! I'll add it to the list. Poulenc is great!

    • @SopranoJoan
      @SopranoJoan  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi @aretesingers! Just want to let you know that I'm working on the Litanies and it's going to be my next post (mid to late April, I hope). I started researching the story of the song a few months ago but life got in the way. But I have to thank you for the suggestion because it's been a great project. :)

    • @aretesingers
      @aretesingers 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@SopranoJoan It's such a haunting song. Well worth it to sing it correctly. Thank you.

    • @SopranoJoan
      @SopranoJoan  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @aretesingers It's done!!!! th-cam.com/video/5XJEd2XZlNc/w-d-xo.html

  • @kennyliu4512
    @kennyliu4512 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Do you do German diction for choirs too?

    • @SopranoJoan
      @SopranoJoan  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No, I am capable of singing in German but teaching diction is a different story. Was there a particular piece that you had in mind?
      By the way, I will be publishing Latin diction videos soon. The introductory video with my pronunciation guide should be out by early next week and the standard mass texts will follow.

    • @kennyliu4512
      @kennyliu4512 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@SopranoJoan, the ladies in my choir are doing "Hebe deine Augen auf" for our concert mid of this month

    • @SopranoJoan
      @SopranoJoan  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That's a classic. I used to conduct a women's choir (church) and that was a regular feature. We always did it in German. As much as I am capable of singing in German and conducting a choir in a German piece, I would not be comfortable publishing German diction tutorials on TH-cam! But, I will be taking on Latin diction soon. Currently working on a pronunciation guide which I hope to publish soon. :)

  • @leelove9997
    @leelove9997 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The French do not roll their "r's" ever. I am half French, grew up with a French father, and have tons of French cousins. Never have I heard this.

    • @SopranoJoan
      @SopranoJoan  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      The rolled r has been gradually been disappearing and you might not have encountered anyone who roll their r's. But there are still plenty of people who do, I know some personally. In Canada you'll find plenty of rolled r's outside Québec and I often came across it in older people in Québec. I can't really speak for other countries. That said, when performing repertoire like the Cantique de Jean Racine, you are expected to roll your r's slightly. But even that rolled r in singing has evolved. If you listen to older recordings of Fauré art songs you'll hear a much more pronounced roll than in modern recordings. Language is a living thing and it constantly changes.