Awesome 👏🏼 thank you for the great content!!! Been eyeing these for a while because I want the 4 link over radius arms and the price is such a big factor for me .
yea, you totally dont remove and replace like this.. your life would of been alot easier by just removing and replacing the lower arm driver side, then remove and replace the upper arm passenger side, then remove and replace upper arm driver side and finally remove and replace lower arm passenger side. Doing so would prevent minimal axle movement and allow you to easily replace fustration at a minimal.
I was following apoc instructions on this one. The next one i will try your method out. I use to do both top ones then bottom last. Wanted to try their method to see if it was any easier.
Ok- I had mine delivered. Had to take the sawzall to the lower bolts. I did keep the tyres on during this, and I used a buddy to try and move the wheel, it just moved enough to slip both bolts in.
I have a 3" lift and just bought some Stryker control arms and was going to change these arms myself... After watching this I think I'll take it to Les Schwab...I'm almost 70 Disabled and theirs Snow on the Ground and I don't have a warm place to do it...
Great vid....just rebuilt total front end of my 05 Power wagon...springs ..arms..etc...using a angle gauge where would you put it on axle or knuckle to read caster?...my cams are facing total opposite..before I even started the job
Thank you.. Best to my knowledge center outside wheel with wheel still on if you can. My opinion is take it to an alignment shop. Saves you money in the long run. I've always limp them to the shop for alignment. I think most come off the assembly line with driver side bolt at 11:30 and passenger side at 12:00 that I've seen anyway
@@isolateddieselperformance3261 Got them in what a royal pain and smacked myself in the head with 1/2 ratchet and bleed for it ..Lol but there done ..Thanks
@@isolateddieselperformance3261 My truck was also wrecked Hyundai pulled in front of me Hit destroyed knocked wheels off car and slide into the concrete median and buckled control arms and had to cut them out with torch and sawzall not fun work at all. And to top it off have 2002 7.3 super duty 6-speed crew cab and lady GPS at turn light told her to do a U-Turn and she did in front of me and it also was a Hyundai SUV and knocked the wheels off it and destroyed all within 13 months time but was able to drive it home and insurance company totaled it out. But fixed it too lot of work ...Lol
Lol come-a-long is a must man did mine about a year ago! Bout whooped my ass ain’t no way I could’ve of done it without the come-a-long. Did you order yours on Amazon by any chance?
Without the manufacturers help, how do you figure the correct measurements? Got a rough country adjustable control arms for a 2" lift with leveling kit. After the install, took it for an alignment and the tech ran the control arms all the way in. I know this is wrong, and the springs have since shifted so they are not centered. I'm about to replace the ball joints and want to correct this issue when I do, for obvious reasons.
You will have to call rough country and get the measurements they require for their design. They will answer the phone and real good about helping you out. I've spoken with them several times.
@@isolateddieselperformance3261 I emailed them last week, and not heard anything. I work nights so time during the day is very limited but I will see if I can give them a call
@@isolateddieselperformance3261 yeah just got off the phone with them. They said there is no set measurements, just run it out a 1/4” set it down to see if it centers it up, and keep doing that until it gets where it needs to be. So I guess I get to spend a day jacking the truck up and down because an alignment tech didn’t know what was doing and the shop that put the lift on doesn’t want to help once they’ve sent the lift out the door. So frustrated
I have a truck that it's have a broken control arm in the front. I think is the same size that you have. But can you tile me what size and where you get them from. Please
A good help, I've got some incoming. I've got a lifted 2500, I'm in the UK so it's a 3-5 week wait. How have you got on so far with the arms? I'm running 35x12.5 r20 tyres suffering major rub!
They work great! I got a video posted talking about tire clearance with the control arms and lift running 35x12.50r20 th-cam.com/video/CT-rE2pSt00/w-d-xo.html
When you got your alignment done, did they adjust them for you or did you have to and come back? Only ask because you have to take the adjustable side all the way out the pocket just to adjust
No you set them to correct length for your lift and they align it using the caster bolt on bottom front. Don't need to pull control arms out to adjust.
@@isolateddieselperformance3261 Oh that makes sense why wasnt i thinking of that. How do you know how far to position them out though? I have a 6in on 2.5 spacers
Hey man nice work ! I have a 2005 Dodge Ram 2500 Cummins with a 6 inch lift that I want to remove and put a 2.5”- 3” lift . What’s involved in doing that process ? Any suggestions on a lift brand? Do I need to do any cutting or welding ? Thanks man
I have a video on a 3 inch lift and another one on ajustiable track bar. Basically remove your 6 inch shocks springs and rear blocks and replace with the 3 inch kit. Your existing ajustiable control arms and ajustiable track bar which you should have both with your 6inch lift should adjust down for a 3 inch lift.
Thanks for the reply , I appreciate it . I thought I only had to buy a 3 inch lift and replace springs and blocks but a shop told me they had to cut and weld stock parts back on .. I didn’t believe them ! I don’t think the person previous owner who lifted my truck put the adjustable track bar or the adjustable control arms on because the end links rub on the springs . It has worn a grove in the springs from rubbing so many years . so the axle never got centered. I was thinking on going with the set up you went with and I am wondering are you happy with the whole kit ?
My plan was to disconnect them before I started to install new arms but I didn't think I would have to lower the axle so much to get the old ones out first because other trucks I've done in the past I didn't have to lower so low. Oh well new rule is disconnect before you start disassembly. Lesson learned.
@@isolateddieselperformance3261 you measured from outside edge to outside edge on the Apoc arms. Why not bolt hole center to bolt hole center? Just curious?
@@isolateddieselperformance3261 Thanks for the reply. That's such a weird way to do it but I guess every manufacturer has his own way to do things. They look like quality links, how have they done?
I’m putting 3 inch lift coils on my 2004 ram 3500 and I ordered the rough country adjustable control arms. I have no idea what the length needs to be. They aren’t high clearance both top and bottom are straight. Anyways I was just curious where you got your information. I got ahold of the guys I bought my lift from and they are clueless. I would bet that my measurement would be exactly the same as these you just installed.
Your new control arms should come with a chart telling you what measurement you will set the control arms at for what ever lift size you have which in your case will be 3 inches. Make sure you read the directions because different companies measure from different points of the control arms. Mine was from end to end. Rough Country might be from end to end or from center of bolt hole to bolt hole. If by chance it doesn't come with a chart just look on their website for install instructions. Hope this helps. Thanks for watching!
In the aircraft world we measure from center to center on a fixture with cone shaped bolts. Precision is very critical and should be no different in your car.
I go by what the manufacturer says because they made the product and set the measurements from A to B. If I use their measurements from bolt to bolt I would be digging my front tires out of my headlights.
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Almost exact same process as my 4th gen 2500. Good and helpful video.
Thanks Sid
I installed Core 4x4 control arms and they are Damn Beefy!
Awesome 👏🏼 thank you for the great content!!! Been eyeing these for a while because I want the 4 link over radius arms and the price is such a big factor for me .
You're welcome!
Bro the struggle is REAL but listening to you made me feel better.😂 Did you have to do that because it doesnt have radius arms?
Very good video. Thank you
yea, you totally dont remove and replace like this.. your life would of been alot easier by just removing and replacing the lower arm driver side, then remove and replace the upper arm passenger side, then remove and replace upper arm driver side and finally remove and replace lower arm passenger side. Doing so would prevent minimal axle movement and allow you to easily replace fustration at a minimal.
I was following apoc instructions on this one. The next one i will try your method out. I use to do both top ones then bottom last. Wanted to try their method to see if it was any easier.
Ok- I had mine delivered. Had to take the sawzall to the lower bolts. I did keep the tyres on during this, and I used a buddy to try and move the wheel, it just moved enough to slip both bolts in.
Heck yea that will work!
Romper room how to on gravel drive or how not to
Sweet thanks for the video
You're welcome! More to come.
Can't wait
I have a 3" lift and just bought some Stryker control arms and was going to change these arms myself... After watching this I think I'll take it to Les Schwab...I'm almost 70 Disabled and theirs Snow on the Ground and I don't have a warm place to do it...
I don't blame you. Its a tough long process. Thanks for watching.
Great vid....just rebuilt total front end of my 05 Power wagon...springs ..arms..etc...using a angle gauge where would you put it on axle or knuckle to read caster?...my cams are facing total opposite..before I even started the job
Thank you.. Best to my knowledge center outside wheel with wheel still on if you can. My opinion is take it to an alignment shop. Saves you money in the long run. I've always limp them to the shop for alignment. I think most come off the assembly line with driver side bolt at 11:30 and passenger side at 12:00 that I've seen anyway
@@isolateddieselperformance3261 sounds good thankyou..
Invest in a spud wrench man lol line the holes up just barely and reef it til its close wam toss the bolt in
Im having hell trying to get cam bolt to seat properly.
Try to get the pressure off the control arm as much as u can. They can be a pain sometimes.
@@isolateddieselperformance3261 Got them in what a royal pain and smacked myself in the head with 1/2 ratchet and bleed for it ..Lol but there done ..Thanks
I've been there brother! It has took me longer to find the tools I've thrown than it would have took to get the job done.
@@isolateddieselperformance3261 My truck was also wrecked Hyundai pulled in front of me Hit destroyed knocked wheels off car and slide into the concrete median and buckled control arms and had to cut them out with torch and sawzall not fun work at all. And to top it off have 2002 7.3 super duty 6-speed crew cab and lady GPS at turn light told her to do a U-Turn and she did in front of me and it also was a Hyundai SUV and knocked the wheels off it and destroyed all within 13 months time but was able to drive it home and insurance company totaled it out. But fixed it too lot of work ...Lol
That truck has been through hell
Lol come-a-long is a must man did mine about a year ago! Bout whooped my ass ain’t no way I could’ve of done it without the come-a-long. Did you order yours on Amazon by any chance?
You would be dead in the water without a come-a-long. Nah got mine straight from Apoc.
What size coilovers are those
Rough country 3 inch lift
Would you know the measurements for adjustable control arms for a 2001 dodge ram 3500 4x4 with a 3.5 front level lift ?
No sir I don't. I will try to find out. What brand control arms do you have?
They are tuff up
I can't find anything on a 3 1/2 inch. None of my resources have that info. Sorry man I tried.
Without the manufacturers help, how do you figure the correct measurements? Got a rough country adjustable control arms for a 2" lift with leveling kit. After the install, took it for an alignment and the tech ran the control arms all the way in. I know this is wrong, and the springs have since shifted so they are not centered. I'm about to replace the ball joints and want to correct this issue when I do, for obvious reasons.
You will have to call rough country and get the measurements they require for their design. They will answer the phone and real good about helping you out. I've spoken with them several times.
@@isolateddieselperformance3261 I emailed them last week, and not heard anything. I work nights so time during the day is very limited but I will see if I can give them a call
I work nights too brother. Yea call. They will answer
@@isolateddieselperformance3261 yeah just got off the phone with them. They said there is no set measurements, just run it out a 1/4” set it down to see if it centers it up, and keep doing that until it gets where it needs to be. So I guess I get to spend a day jacking the truck up and down because an alignment tech didn’t know what was doing and the shop that put the lift on doesn’t want to help once they’ve sent the lift out the door.
So frustrated
WTF??? Ok we are going to approach this in a different way. I need to know year model truck and how much of a lift you have
I have a truck that it's have a broken control arm in the front. I think is the same size that you have. But can you tile me what size and where you get them from. Please
2000-2009 Dodge Ram 2500/3500 High Clearance Adjustable Control Arms - Apoc Industries
apocindustries.com/collections/dodge/products/2003-2009-dodge-ram-2500-3500-high-clearance-adjustable-control-arms
A good help, I've got some incoming. I've got a lifted 2500, I'm in the UK so it's a 3-5 week wait. How have you got on so far with the arms? I'm running 35x12.5 r20 tyres suffering major rub!
They work great! I got a video posted talking about tire clearance with the control arms and lift running 35x12.50r20
th-cam.com/video/CT-rE2pSt00/w-d-xo.html
I used my winch to move mine
Do what works 🙂
Give a big umm 😂
Already gave more than I wanted to. Go back and watch it again and count all the umm you can and report back.
When you got your alignment done, did they adjust them for you or did you have to and come back? Only ask because you have to take the adjustable side all the way out the pocket just to adjust
No you set them to correct length for your lift and they align it using the caster bolt on bottom front. Don't need to pull control arms out to adjust.
@@isolateddieselperformance3261 Oh that makes sense why wasnt i thinking of that. How do you know how far to position them out though? I have a 6in on 2.5 spacers
The specs for all lift heights come with the Apoc control arms. Find your year model and lift height on the sheet and adjust accordingly.
@@isolateddieselperformance3261 Ah Im using Stryker arms, same exact design different name. Ill have to reach out to them
How well have they been holding up considering ordering them for my 2008 just don’t want something that’s gonna wear wuick
So far so good. Not had any problems out of them.
Hey man nice work !
I have a 2005 Dodge Ram 2500 Cummins with a 6 inch lift that I want to remove and put a 2.5”- 3” lift . What’s involved in doing that process ?
Any suggestions on a lift brand?
Do I need to do any cutting or welding ?
Thanks man
I have a video on a 3 inch lift and another one on ajustiable track bar. Basically remove your 6 inch shocks springs and rear blocks and replace with the 3 inch kit. Your existing ajustiable control arms and ajustiable track bar which you should have both with your 6inch lift should adjust down for a 3 inch lift.
Thanks for the reply , I appreciate it . I thought I only had to buy a 3 inch lift and replace springs and blocks but a shop told me they had to cut and weld stock parts back on .. I didn’t believe them !
I don’t think the person previous owner who lifted my truck put the adjustable track bar or the adjustable control arms on because the end links rub on the springs . It has worn a grove in the springs from rubbing so many years . so the axle never got centered.
I was thinking on going with the set up you went with and I am wondering are you happy with the whole kit ?
Yes I'm happy with it. What brand lift is on it now?
Ok cool I might do same set up as you .
Super lift short control arms . I just checked and no adjustable track bar or control arms .
Someone didn't lift your truck right. They wanted high lift with low budget. Not recommended. I'm surprise it don't drive and ride like crap.
What years of rams is this applicable?
2003 to 2013
Did you do the video with the sway bar links connected up initially or did you remove them after you did the one side?
My plan was to disconnect them before I started to install new arms but I didn't think I would have to lower the axle so much to get the old ones out first because other trucks I've done in the past I didn't have to lower so low. Oh well new rule is disconnect before you start disassembly. Lesson learned.
Anyone know what the measurements would be for a 6 inch lift from stock?
What year model truck?
@@isolateddieselperformance3261 98 ram 1500 4x4
Upper 21 1/8
Lower 22 7/8
@@isolateddieselperformance3261 thanks brother will give that a try jus trying to get it close so I can get it in for alignment.
That measurement is for apoc control arms. If you have a different brand you will have to find the correct measurement for the brand you have.
Why not center of hole to center of hole?
Are you talking about lower control cam/caster?
@@isolateddieselperformance3261 you measured from outside edge to outside edge on the Apoc arms. Why not bolt hole center to bolt hole center? Just curious?
Apoc gives you the measurement for different lifts and their measurements are from edge to edge per instructions.
@@isolateddieselperformance3261 Thanks for the reply. That's such a weird way to do it but I guess every manufacturer has his own way to do things. They look like quality links, how have they done?
@@PNW_Rodeo I don't know yet. I'm still adding parts. Should be going for a test drive this week sometime. 🤞
I’m putting 3 inch lift coils on my 2004 ram 3500 and I ordered the rough country adjustable control arms. I have no idea what the length needs to be. They aren’t high clearance both top and bottom are straight. Anyways I was just curious where you got your information. I got ahold of the guys I bought my lift from and they are clueless. I would bet that my measurement would be exactly the same as these you just installed.
Your new control arms should come with a chart telling you what measurement you will set the control arms at for what ever lift size you have which in your case will be 3 inches. Make sure you read the directions because different companies measure from different points of the control arms. Mine was from end to end. Rough Country might be from end to end or from center of bolt hole to bolt hole. If by chance it doesn't come with a chart just look on their website for install instructions. Hope this helps. Thanks for watching!
I’ve had mine on for 2 years and 20k miles and already have bad bushings with axle movement. Junk
Did you grease them every 3,000 miles?
So not looking forward to this haha
Come on man make it fun haha. If you get frustrated walk away for a minute to regroup and clear your head.
In the aircraft world we measure from center to center on a fixture with cone shaped bolts. Precision is very critical and should be no different in your car.
I go by what the manufacturer says because they made the product and set the measurements from A to B. If I use their measurements from bolt to bolt I would be digging my front tires out of my headlights.
Says the guy who has no idea about the aircraft or automotive world.