CZ Shadow 2 Compact is perfectly safe to carry
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ต.ค. 2024
- Misconceptions about CZ Shadow 2 Compact safety
In a striker-fired gun, when the slide is racked back and released forward, the firing pin remains retracted and under spring tension. The trigger releases this tension, allowing the firing pin to move forward and strike the primer, thus firing the round. However, because the firing pin is under tension, the gun is not drop-safe, necessitating the use of a firing pin safety block. I believe Glock was the first to introduce this feature.
In hammer-fired guns (both pistols and revolvers), the firing pin is not under tension when gun is cocked, so a firing pin block is not needed. If the hammer is placed in a half-cocked position, as explained in this video, it is highly unlikely that the firing pin would be struck if the gun is dropped.
The 1911 pistol has been in use by the U.S. military, law enforcement, and civilians for over a century. 1911s without firing pin safeties continue to be manufactured today by companies like Colt, Springfield, and Ruger.
Confusion arose because the CZ 75 B single-action model included a firing pin block and decocker, but their latest models (Shadow 2 gun series) have eliminated unnecessary features.
Unfortunately a range officer was killed when a shadow 2 was dropped at a uspsa competition in Rochester in 2020.
@@tempacc2215 Yes, I know for this tragedy. This unfortunate incident happened because the extended firing pin was used and loaded gun was dropped with hammer down. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Its so weird that people think a decocker makes this gun safe but a safety does not 😂😂😂
So the reason to use a decocker is not just to avoid slipping off the hammer. It’s also so that you don’t have to press the trigger to take it all the way down. When the trigger is pulled on most dasa guns, there’s a seer that moves away so that there’s nothing between the hammer and the firing pin.
A decocker? Thats ridiculous 😂😂😂 This whole narrative exists because someone dropped one at a competition and died.. But that person had an extended firing pin..
Don't make stupid modifications and it'll 100% be as safe as anything else u can carry... "bUT iT DOeSn'T hAvE a FiRiNG PiN bLoCk".. well neither does a Staccato... u can carry the gun with the hammer fully down and its 100% carry safe.. U got dudes in this comment section who have never even seen this gun in person arguing otherwise
God, you're so lucky to have that gorgeous CZ. Im saving up for another G3 atm so im put in a tough situation between buying a G3 or the Shadow 2 Compact.
Get the compact
Good instruction video on how to decock a gun like this. I do the exact same thing as an IPSC shooter. Carrying a gun like this is as safe as carrying a series 70 1911 IF 1. You know how to properly use it and 2. You keep the internals factory. That said it is still safer to carry a gun with a firing pin block such as CZ P01, CZ75B, Glock and a plethora of others. Think about your safety and others around you, especially in a high-stress situation. And also consider the price of the gun, what if you had to use it in an actual shooting and had to turn it in? There goes your 1k plus dollar gun. Hope you still get it back. But its your gun anyway.
I cannot understand the latter part of your argument. You’re basically saying “Carry a cheaper (and less quality) firearm in case it gets confiscated on potentially the most serious situation in your life.”
Carry what is safe? Sure. Carry what you’re proficient with? Absolutely. Carry what is cheaper to part with? Nonsense.
It's not unsafe because is doesn't have a decoker. It's unsafe because it doesn't have a firing pin block. It's the same reason why no one carrys a full size shadow or uses it as a duty gun.
You do realize that this is not a striker fired gun. 😂 If you pay closer attention you will see that this is a hammer-fired gun. It is hard to explain the difference to people who doesn’t understand guns.
@miroslavm2553 ... you do know all guns have firing pins, not just striker fired guns, right? How are you going to try and say someone doesn't know anything about firearms and you demonstrate a complete lack of understanding about something as simple as a firing pin!? Lol😂
@@NitenReign In a striker-fired gun, when the slide is racked back and released forward, the firing pin remains retracted and under spring tension. The trigger releases this tension, allowing the firing pin to move forward and strike the primer, thus firing the round. However, because the firing pin is under tension, the gun is not drop-safe, necessitating the use of a firing pin safety block. I believe Glock was the first to introduce this feature.
In hammer-fired guns (both pistols and revolvers), the firing pin is not under tension when gun is cocked, so a firing pin block is not needed. If the hammer is placed in a half-cocked position, as explained in this video, it is highly unlikely that the firing pin would be struck if the gun is dropped.
The 1911 pistol has been in use by the U.S. military, law enforcement, and civilians for over a century. 1911s without firing pin safeties continue to be manufactured today by companies like Colt, Springfield, and Ruger.
Confusion arose because the CZ 75 B single-action model included a firing pin block and decocker, but their latest models (Shadow 2) have eliminated unnecessary features. I hope this helps. 🙂
@@miroslavm2553My friend, hypothetically speaking, if you accidentally drop the gun on your hummer, or bump your gun's hummer, it may fire as long as it has a round in a chamber. It may fire even if it is not cocked at all. In other words, if you want your concealed carry gun to be 100% safe - get yourself something else. 😂
@miroslavm2553 you clearly haven't heard the arguments between the 70s and 80s series 1911s. Hell the 2011s from staccato aren't drop safe and those are 70s series based. Ben Stoger has like 3 vids on that. What I'm saying isn't even new information you can just look it up.
I wonder, can the safety be replaced for a manual decocker similar to the P07 or no?
No. Unless you own an omega. You are married to the safety option or decocker option on all CZs. And a decocker cz has to have a firing pin block which shadow 2s lack
@@3of11 Thank you! Still new to firearms so the information is much appreciated.
I just use the safety cocked and locked. It's literally called a safety.
It could be even safer if you lock it in a heavy steel gun safe and swallow the 🔑. And that is what you can call a total safety.
@@miroslavm2553😂
This would not be my choice for concealed carry since this gun is large, heavy, and has no blocking for the firing pin. Besides, this gun is ridiculously expensive for such purpose. Considering that you probably will replace grips, safety lever, slide stop, trigger, and buy a few mags, it will cost you around $2K. For that price you can easily buy 3 "normal" guns 😂.
Oh, did you mistake this gun for Glock? 😂
Why buy a bcm, lwrc, radian, geissele ar when you can buy 4 psa at 15s.......nice argument chief
@@shelbyneely1572 that is because you usually do not need F1 Car to drive around your trailer :).
@@ViktorSv-fc1gf I would do that but theres too many trees on my property to park a trailer 🤷♂️
@@shelbyneely1572 Listen, I am not against good guns. I have full size shadow 2 as well as this compact model. And i think I have approximately other 20 different pistols in my safe. Some guns I have purchased for fun or because I like them, others for carry or sport. All I wanted to say that this Shadow 2 Compact is not good for carry to my personal opinion. For carry I prefer Sig p365 and Sig p938. Before SIGs I used to have Glock 26. In other words, for carry I would say that sub-compact options are better. The compact guns are probably the best for police usage, but I would not pick Shadow 2 compact myself, rather use something like Glock 19. And you should also keep in mind that if God-forbid you ever have to use your gun for self-protection, it is better be all original, with all the original parts, and not very expensive since most likely it will be confiscated as an evidence.
It’s not the gun that’s unsafe. It’s the user who does not have the experience or training.
Unless it is SIG-Sauer P320, the only gun that can fire without a trigger pull due to a design or mechanical flaw. And Alec Baldwin’s Colt 45. 😂
Facts
Why go through all that, I rather carry my Beretta M9 with the de-cocker