@OSCAR and EMMY I like seeing my favorites win but I understand that its to either tell a story or build other characters. Like I wanted Gargano to win the NXT championship back and I was kinda upset that he lost but I also enjoyed the match and didnt cry about it. Cole is a great champion.
It's laughable to me when i see comments like "Well he never drew himself" or "Jobber for life" and that bullshit. The man has been in the business for 30 years or so and is still making a living today. If an actor has a lifetime of achievement in film but isnt a big a star as Tom Hanks or made as much money as Ryan Reynolds does that make them a failure? No
People like that are the ultimate marks. Hanging onto the fact that he was a jobber in WWE as though that bothers him. He made his money, he made his fame and could school every one of them.
I remember watching TNA in 2010 with my Grandpa that hadnt followed wrestling since Attitude Era and even he was able to remember al snow after not following wrestling In A Decade....
lol.. i am personally attacked!! My 5 podcast listeners will be hearing about this... after Dave Meltzer reports it of course.. I mean I can't have an opinion with out hearing his first!
Al Snow is one of the few wrestlers I always enjoy listening to. There's no bullshit. You see so many of these shoots where they are talking out of there ass. Even to the point of buying their own bullshit. "I whipped so and so's ass for the world title" shit like that. I've been watching wrestling since 1982. But I know what I am. I'm a mark. I used to think of myself as a "Smart Mark" because of all the stuff I've learned about the business. I have friends who run their own indy promotion, and I understand the business. To a point. There is only so much you can learn about it, without being in it. I know enough to totally respect everything that goes into it, and everything that's gone into it. Very cool video. Thanks for sharing it.
I really don't have a problem with wrestlers talking about beating such and such's ass for the world belt. I absolutely hate it when they talk about it as if it's a role in a movie. Give me a reason to suspend disbelief.
Love Al Snow. He isn't full on "Scott Hall" when it comes to "marks" - Scott Hall basically insults every wrestling fan, I appreciate Al's approach. #TheHannibalTV
@The Dude Abides Much love Dude. I hear you, and I'm no Vince McMahon running this shit but wrestling is awful these days. Maybe adding a few fans to the creative team isn't a bad idea.
@E3W I don't know man. I'm a lifelong pro wrestling fan since I was 2 or 3 years old, but I can't even watch it now. Small flippy wrestlers, scripted promos, etc. I'm okay with a script but think back to Steve Austin's days. I'm sure his promos had some scripted bullet points, but he made me believe. I haven't seen that or felt that since Austin, except for watching Hannibal in GNW. #GNWmark
The fact that he's talking about the goddamn carnival days shows that he probably asked or read up a lot about pro wrestling from legends who lived in those days. On top of that Al Snow has always been revered as a great trainer for new wrestlers, and for his knowledge of wrestling holds. He knows a bit about pro wrestling it seems.
He starred in the very early 80s c when a lot of OGs were still around. He's had knowledge dropped on him. I've seen him in a pic with one of the Fabulous Kangaroos. That's old school.
Snow's the best. He'll teach you all the basics of good wrestling psychology, while his comedic remarks are constantly cracking me up. I could definitely listen to him for hours.
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“I have nothing but good things to say about Al Snow.” -Jim Cornette
Connie Carroll he mentions how good Al Snow is at booking and running a company in his review of the WWE FCW documentary. Not sure if this is where the exact quote is from but he does respect Al.
Liam Divine absolutely.... Al is truly one of thr greats from the 90s who didnt catch fire (but should have). He is giving them gold in these videos... one of my personal favorites and a true journeymen. hes lookin great these days wish he could have another run but maybe helping building the stars of tommorrow is his destiny Al Snow is the fucking shit (not the "shitz")
The carnival world actually got the term "mark" from con men who used it to refer to the object of their con. Wrestling adopted the word "mark" from its carnival sideshow roots (hence the reason the slang wrestlers used to communicate used to be called "carny"). Unfortunately, some in the business translate that into a disrespect of their fans. While many entertainers don't think much of their fans, the wrestling world suffers from too many workers being blatant about their contempt of the folks buying the tickets and the PPV subscriptions.
i agree john gori, but without the fans that buy those tickets and merch, these wrestlers would be out of work and wrestling itself would die. i see it going that way really, and like al said its just my opinion. with the invention of the internet and everyone having info and knowledge at their fingertips, could slowly help kill the business to an extent. i think the fans help keep it alive because they are such die hard fans. i met a couple of wrestlers that seemed really nice and loved the fans when they are on tv, but acted a completely different way to me when in public. maybe some do truly respect their fans, but i think alot of it is fake for tv ratings. im saying some not all, i havent met that many wrestlers. its hard for fans to differentiate between the person and the wrestler. everyone loves shawn michaels for instance, yet ive seen alot of videos of other wrestlers telling the truth about him and how he was backstage and as a person. so yes, we as fans are all marks! but we allow ourselves to be used as marks because we enjoy wrestling. but like i said i think with all the info out on the internet, could damage and turn off some fans.
I think it got twisted when shoot interviews started and wrestlers would say stuff like "he's a mark for himself" about over wrestlers as a negative thing. And wrestlers will say smart fans are the biggest marks. Because they're the ones on the Internet obsessing over botched and matches and workrate, and calling OTHERS marks in a negative way.
Marks = fans. That's all we are. And he's absolutely correct in saying that smart marks don't exist. Every wrestler, fan, official, and every other position are always filled by MARKS. Plain and simple!
For anyone arguing about Al's explanation in the video, YOU are exactly what he's referring too. It's all a matter of opinion and perception, and how that's taken into consideration can be the basis of any point of view.
Al says "everyone is a mark." No, no, NO!!! As a longtime casino dealer, there are many things that are similar to the wrestling business. Just as Al said correctly, a mark is someone that has money, and is marked because they have more money to spend than the "rubes", or as we called them in our business "FLEAS". Everyone cannot be a mark, as that makes the term completely meaningless. If you "mark" everyone, then how do you know which one has the big money, and which ones you would be wasting your time with? Marks are the ones that buy merch, and add to your income. And no, I agree with Al, you don't let them tell you how to wrestle. But when you have a mark in a casino, you do spend more attention on them, you make sure they get all of their bets in, you make sure the waitress gets them their drinks on time, you tell them funny stories, in general, you make them feel special while they are there. And you don't waste your time on the fleas. In wrestling there are may ways to play up to your marks. One example is if the guys are brawling outside of the ring, the heel can make sure to drag the babyface over in front of the mark, and give him a few shots right there to get the mark even more heated and ready for the babyface comeback. To call everyone a mark simply misses the point entirely. A mark has more money and is willing to part with it, whereas fleas just buy tickets and just about nothing else.
To add to this, why did the WWE win the wrestling wars, leaving all others in the dust, while at the same time offering the WORST wrestling product ever known to mankind? Vince knew how to spot a mark. While other promoters were calling everyone marks, and measuring their success by the number of people that bought tickets, Vince was just a little more greedy, Vince wanted to make more money, and that would require that he identify the "real marks", not just the "fleas" that bought tickets. Vince wanted to identify the fattest wallets, and those customers that would open their wallets, not just to but tickets, but to buy t-shirts, home videos, WWE candy bars and WWE ice cream, buy WWE lunch boxes and WWE backpacks, watch WWE cartoons and all of the rest. Vince identified "parents of children" as the biggest marks, knowing that parents would buy anything for their kids if they screamed for it long enough. It's the exact same thing as the carnival. Grown adults don't want to win stuffed animals, kids do. But parents did not want to take their kids to see bloody barbed wire matches, therefore the WWE set out to "reform" the business by making it kid friendly, no blood and more "Disney" like characters. Vince knew the difference between the "marks" and the very "cash poor" fans that would go to something like ECW.
In all of my years dealing, I've never referred to somebody as a "flea." I definitely made mental notes of the Georges and the stiffs. Some of the best Georges I've ever dealt to didn't spend much money. I've also been stiffed many times by guys who had large markers. But for those guys, I'd often send the dice out as a hardway or a 7 hoping it'd jinx them.
@@jd9119 Well sir, maybe you were blessed enough to not have to work the way we did. Now I've dealt to Hollywood stars and some top musicians, but that's not the way we started out. We broke in on the $0.25 tables. We were essentially dealing to the "homeless". Some people's entire bankroll walking in was like $4.50 or $5. 25 cent field bets, 10 cent prop bets, and absolutely full tables, 8 or 9 players on each end. Some you could tell had not had a bath or shower for days upon end. You could easily work for 8 hours without ever receiving a single tip. Waitresses never got a penny from that table as a tip. But you learn, and move up from there. People are different. Casinos do not put these people up in hotels and give them free food. Not all customers are the same. Best wishes to you.
@@georgekenny2294 That sounds like what it was like when I broke in at the Jokers Wild. I remember working a double shift at The Speedway (I worked at both when I was breaking in) and only getting $15 in tokes for 16 hours of work.
in my recommended after two years and honestly this opens my eyes, as in retail we are pretty much told the customer is important mostly because they bring the money into the company and i kinda carried that knowledge with me, appeal to the crowd and get the bank, but this opens my eyes a good bit even though i could never do wrestling as am disabled, but this is a good view to absorb no matter the profession
1:10 I work at a Dollar Tree. I can 100 percent say that this is true. All the Dollar Tree food and chemicals are in the back. You have to walk past snacks and toys to get there.
I don't know how good the doctors are in the States but in my country you absolutely tell the doctor how to fix you if you want something fixed right...
Yea he is a know it all clown who answers his own question 1 sec later. Why ask a question then? Is he trying to reaffirm his stupid points by asking himself the questions making sure HE knows the answers? This guy needs a new gimmick
Al Snow, that’s so deeply profound that “an opinion is the lowest form of human knowledge”. Wow. I really enjoy your super informative videos, sir. Can u send me an autograph? Thank you!
I really dig all of these Al Snow videos but often struggle with this whole thing that some wrestlers tend to have of, "If you're not a wrestler, you can't have an opinion on my match." I'm the audience. You are putting on a performance. If I, as a member of the audience, am not entertained and drawn into what you're doing then you're not doing it very well. I can watch a movie and know whether that movie was good or crap despite not being an actor or writer or director or lighting guy or Foley artist or cameraman etc. How do I know? Because the point is to entertain me and others like me. If none of us are entertained, the movie was bad. The wrestler to doctor analogy is flawed. If you want to compare wrestling to medicine, it wouldn't be in terms of telling the doctor what to do but more in terms of telling the doctor if what he did fixed you or not. If I go to the doctor and he diagnoses me with the flu and treats me for the flu and in the end, I have sinus problems that also cause gastroenterological problems due to the drainage of mucus then I don't have to be a doctor to know that he did a bad job, I just have to know the results of his work.
Agreed 100%. There is a massive difference between being a doctor and being a performer. The whole success of wrestling is based on the audience. A doctor isn't a doctor based on what the patient thinks of them. It's more in line with performance work. You don't need to be an actor or a filmmaker to know a good movie from a bad movie. You don't need to be a musician to know musical talent from a lack thereof. Just as wrestling fans don't have to be wrestlers to know if a match is enjoyable or not. There are a million occasions where wrestlers put together matches that bomb or get panned. How is that possible if the only people who truly know what quality wrestling is are the wrestlers themselves? It's beyond flawed logic. Honestly, this logic Al and many other people within the business have with this subject is sourced in arrogance and ego. They want to believe wrestling is such a high-level thing that only certain "worthy" people inside the industry could possibly ever comprehend or have an opinion of it. It's just ridiculous.
You are mistaking your opinion as having value, good and bad are subjective terms outside of objective measurement. If a guy botches 5 moves and almost kills a guy, he is bad, he has had a bad match. If he does everything he was supposed to do and you didn't like it that doesn't make him or his match bad, just not to your taste. Entertainment obviously means that you can have an opinion, but you don't have a buy-in to the outcome, other than not spending money to see it again. So to liken it to a movie, if you don't like Tom Cruise, you don't get to tell him how he should act is his next movie...you sure as shit can write to him and tell him you think he is trash as an actor and you hate his performances, but you do not get to control his next movie, what it is about, whether he wins or loses in it and so on. All you can do is just never go see another Tom Cruise movie. Too many wrestling fans think they "own" wrestling or wrestlers in a way you don't see in any other form of entertainment, no one does that sort of shit to TV shows or films or theatre shows, no one goes to the opera and says I want to see Ulysses do more 450 sentons I was bored with all his head locks. The people writing the TV show house aren't going oh my God everyone is saying Jesse should get a bigger push, we should re-write this season so he becomes the main star. Go to the event, watch the matches, cheer the good guys, boo the bad guys, marvel at the things another human is willing to do to their body in order to entertain you, go home. You don't run wrestling, your opinion doesn't matter, who you like and don't like doesn't matter, for everyone one of you and your opinion there is an antithesis. The writers and promoters set up the stalls not you, you don't get to go to a carnival and say, hey I hate the whole test of strength thing, I think it is dumb change it to duck shooting. You go there and go urrrggghhh I hate the test of strength I am not paying for that. You can have your opinion and vote with your wallet but I have listened to "fans" that want Finn Balor to get a push and have title, then they are like Rusev should have a title, hey why aren't they pushing Andrade more, he should have a title, Seth Rollins is better than Lesner he should have a title....if wrestling promoters listened to these idiots they would be changing champion every damn week to appease the current trend because people have the attention span of a fish and just want new shit all the time....as soon as a guy goes from NXT to Raw everyone then instantly is like...geee why are they pushing this old talent...push the guy from NXT....they push him....repeat cycle. Fans should go back to shutting the fuck up and enjoying the damn show, liking who they like, disliking who they dislike and that is it.
@ghostface3279 so that goes back in to the part on opinion. That same match gets done a town over and they love it, so then it is a good match? Can a match be objectively good and bad? No, it is subjective, and subjectivity is fine you can like and dislike who and what you like. The idea that what “you” like and dislike is important is what is wrong. I didn’t like SCSA back in the day, you know what I did? I went and made food, or a drink when his match was on, or just turned off. I would moan to my wrestling fan friends, they would moan about their dislikes. Never did I want them to change what they were doing, or did I bully promotions in to pushing the people I liked. I just kept hoping they would get bored of ol’ stone col’ and see value in someone else. His matches weren’t bad they were just dull to me personally, my friends loved his shit so they were good to them. There is never 100% consensus on subjective ideas.
@Iteration Zero opinions are based on some form of knowledge whether said knowledge is rooted in true facts or not. An opinion is a personal conclusion or feeling through 'perceived' knowledge; factual or not it matters, especially in this context because "opinions" are what these performers use, play off of and manipulate for success...thus "lowest form of knowledge" is a very good descriptor for an opinion. Even if the opinion is shitty it can still be used against the holder and used to push a performance and the reaction of said performance to a somewhat predictable outcome. Opinions in the arena of pro wrestling are often created by the "KNOWLEDGE" the performers ALLOW the viewer to have access to. "Lowest form of knowledge" It's a perfect description.
@Iteration Zero that long winded copy and paste reply was ridiculous. I didn't read it all and o never will. What Snow said makes sense- especially in context of TEACHING others about pro wrestling psychology. Get over yourself.
@Iteration Zero ok einstein, lol... That was pretty hilarious. Are you doing a comedy schtick or some form of high brow performance art? Here's the deal- your flimsy (at best) attempt at intellectualism is completely transparent and psuedo. It's a projection. It's kind of funny but even more embarrassing. Let's think this out--- we're discussing pro wrestling. This is NOT a deep academic discussion for the ages. This is a pro wrestler, with tons of experience, teaching greenhorns fundamentals of the physical performance and psychology that pushes the act forward. CONTEXT, yes context...let's sound it out together- C.O.N.T.EX.T. Opinions ARE the lowest form of knowledge. Wrestlers play off of, use, manipulate & change the lowest form of knowledge to a desired effect. The degree of manipulation depends on how good the individual, product and/or promotion is. You're not as smart as you think you are and getting caught up in arguing a word OUT OF CONTEXT oozes with the desperate need to compensate. Keep this about wrestling and you might do ok.., maybe. No one gives a shit what you looked up on wikipedia or anywhere else. If all you can do is criticize a person's use of words and definitions- without proper context of said word/definition then you really have nothing of depth or importance to say. BTW- your comment makes you come across like a pompous tart.
This is so paradoxical to us fans watching at home. With each bit of information I accrue online I become more informed than ever, but I still don't know shit lol. The wrestling business is so fascinating, particularly in a psychological sense.
i agree , it is fascinating. but lately ive been watching alot of these ex wrestlers talk about the business, it kinda seems like a dirty sleesy place where people(promoters) use other people. kinda flash peddling in a sense. so its not too far off from prostitution or porn. you have a pimp (promoters/owners etc.), prostitutes ( wrestlers), and then the johns (fans) or as he likes to call them marks! sorry i dont really care for that term, no matter what context he uses it in! not good business to call the people that pay to watch them marks! after all without the so called "MARKS" he wouldnt have a job and wouldnt be able to support his family and put food on the table.
I think his point is a little contradictory. A mark (money target) would pay more if they saw what they wanted to see. So their opinion matters a lot to the match if you're trying to hook them. Right?
Al snow probably looks the best out of all the wrestlers from the Attitude Era. He looks better than even he did back then. Now I don’t know if his physique is natural or not, but still.
A lot of what he says is golden but I have to disagree with him on not letting fans dictate your performances. In a previous video he stated that if you wouldn't watch your own match then how can you expect others to want to watch it and that you should base your performance on if it's drawing money. Well if people criticize your match and you don't listen, they'll stop watching and you'll stop drawing. Therefore it is the fans that should dictate how a wrestler performs. Logic like this is why wwe is stagnant while organizations like njpw continue to grow. Because they give us, the "marks" what we want to see. Because we're the ones keeping the lights on.
You’re not paying to see a product that u want to see, when you go to a movie the plot isn’t exactly to your liking. How many times has a movie ended a way u strongly disliked? You pay to see others ideas, and that’s what fans of today get fucked up. They are here because of you, they operate because of you, but you’re there because of them, because of their ideas that they share, not because they pander to your liking.
Al Snow is completely right on this. This is why i cant stand wrestling fans these days. Every fan i know, talks about how some wrestlers didnt bump right, the promo didnt get heat, that wrestler should break his opponents leg to get a reaction, etc. These are fans that think they work there, every fan uses wrestling terms as if they work in wrestling. thats none of our business nor our concern. I'm just a fan, if i like a confrontation from my favorite wrestler ill cheer. especially if it delivers. so even tho al snow is right, the fans nowadays are just to informed, wrestling secrets are just too exposed now. i feel like i have seen every scenario in the wrestling book. so al snow, these "marks" that are now the majority of your fan base are buying your tickets. this internet knowledge dominating the fanbase. how can you fix that al?? must be frustrating for you. its like me going to watch a movie, and a friend constantly telling me that this actor isnt reacting strong enough, or the camera angle is off. while they are concentrated on that, they miss the story being told, and it could be a good one.
That's exactly how I think, I know what some of the wrestling terminology is but I don't use it to make myself smarter if I don't know what it means. I hear terms like "being buried" or "jobbing" all the time when wrestlers lose matches, but I just call it winning and losing, no need to use terms you don't understand, especially if you don't work in the business.
Exactly. I try to avoid terminology all together myself. I approach wrestling from a business standpoint, because that's what wrestling is. It's a machine designed to make money. It baffles me when people try to treat it like it's anything else. The fans that do are usually the ones misusing insider terms.
Very good point here’s my take on it. I agree with you that some people tend to use the terms just to make themselves sound smart. I also hate hearing people assume that someone is “being buried” when that may not actually be the case. The thing that gets to me is that wrestling fans don’t want to give things a chance. AJ Styles for example the moment he lost at Wrestlemania 32 people were saying he’s not going to be used correctly. When he lost to Reigns people were said Styles is being “fed to him” and that he will be “buried” well by the end of the year he was Wwe champion.
You don't have to change it, you have to accept it, the problem with some veterans of the business is that obviously the business has changed a lot and there's nothing to do about it, the whole "mark" and "smarks" mentality is outdated because they're expecting people to behave the same way they used to when the business was very different, that's why I don't agree with people like Cornette for example (Regarding to this matter, I actually like Cornette) they're lacking perspective and context, people criticize wrestlers and use wrestling terminology because they appreciate wrestling in another level now, they learned to appreciate wrestling without the kayfabe, that's how the wheels are able to keep turning, the problem here is that some people can't seem to understand something so obvious, Internet changed society as a whole, it changed people, why would the wrestling world be any different?? And that's why people like The Young Bucks and the Indies are thriving, because they are the ones who understand.
i agree completely jacktrack7! i think that was kinda my point in my earlier comment. you cant expect the wrestling business to stay the same way as it was say in the 60's,70's and even the 80's. times are different now and technology has infiltrated everything in our daily lives. with wrestling, i think it could and has hurt it somewhat. or maybe i should say its hurt certain peoples view of wrestling. but you cant stop change, so i think its up to these wrestling promotions to figure out how to cope with it. their sport has been so secretive for so long, that im not sure how wrestling will be able to continue because thats what it soley seems based on. once you pull the curtain back and see, oh its not a wizard its just another guy, you cant close the curtain back.
@The Dude Abides That has nothing to do with what we're talking about, even the most casual of crowds has changed a lot and knows that kayfabe is dead, as I said you can't stop change and if you fail to see or accept something like that then my friend I'm afraid you are the only idiot here, under your same logic, sure they're gonna keep making money no matter what but guess what? People who are not casuals are gonna keep using wrestling terminology, criticising wrestlers and wrestling companies no matter what, so why people like you keep crying about it? Let me ask you this? Do you think you or any wrestling company would be able to stop it? Might as well grow up and accept it. Also, sure WWE is gonna continue to mainly focus on kids and the casual crowd, that is true, but let's not pretend here that they haven't changed his style to appeal to the "smark crowd" as well buddy, cause that's certainly not the case, they want to get the non-casual fans too so stop talking as if they wouldn't care at all, they obviously do.
You’re in the entertainment industry if your goal is not to give the fans something they will enjoy and continuously pay to see unless your just naturally amazing you won’t make that money.
Many wrestling veterans have differing opinions and use the term "Mark" meaning different things. Some do use "Fans" and "Mark" interchangeably and as an insult to the person.
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The biggest Mark is technically, Mark Henry
Nuh uh Mark Calloway
Jogging pants promo!!
P.D. S Henry weighs more than taker
Nah, Henry's the strongest mark. The biggest mark is whoever is the biggest person alive.
Boomer
@OSCAR and EMMY I like seeing my favorites win but I understand that its to either tell a story or build other characters. Like I wanted Gargano to win the NXT championship back and I was kinda upset that he lost but I also enjoyed the match and didnt cry about it. Cole is a great champion.
they need to give al a know-it-all gimmick who keeps interrupting young wrestlers backstage and imparting his wisdom.
And he carries around the head as his "teacher's assistant" or whatever
Elijah Nakumura 😁
papa smurf It would be good imo. Especially if he broke the 4th wall a little bit and made it a shoot on whoever the wrestler was
Elijah Nakumura He's not your regular know-it-all...
...HE'S A SNOW-IT-ALL, DAMN IT.
I'm 100% on board with this gimmick. The meta depth would be mind-bogglingly insane!
It's laughable to me when i see comments like "Well he never drew himself" or "Jobber for life" and that bullshit. The man has been in the business for 30 years or so and is still making a living today. If an actor has a lifetime of achievement in film but isnt a big a star as Tom Hanks or made as much money as Ryan Reynolds does that make them a failure? No
People like that are the ultimate marks. Hanging onto the fact that he was a jobber in WWE as though that bothers him. He made his money, he made his fame and could school every one of them.
my problwm is why is there a laundry dryer with a fuckin belt in it workin while this is happening
this man drew more than kevin owens nowadays....that is just a cold fact
I remember watching TNA in 2010 with my Grandpa that hadnt followed wrestling since Attitude Era and even he was able to remember al snow after not following wrestling In A Decade....
What lifetime achievements are you under the impression that Al Snow won?
He couldn't draw flies to a pile of shit.
"Smart mark does not exist"
Aaaaaaaand that's the sound of everyone on r/SquaredCircle hitting caps lock and stretching their fingers...
lol.. i am personally attacked!! My 5 podcast listeners will be hearing about this... after Dave Meltzer reports it of course.. I mean I can't have an opinion with out hearing his first!
Holy shit hahahahaha so true
this comment is 4 years old and the video is probably 10 years plus older and still all rings true today lmao.
Smart mark is a derogatory term. They're marks who think they know about aren't marks because they read dirt sheets lol
Al Snow is one of the few wrestlers I always enjoy listening to. There's no bullshit. You see so many of these shoots where they are talking out of there ass. Even to the point of buying their own bullshit. "I whipped so and so's ass for the world title" shit like that.
I've been watching wrestling since 1982. But I know what I am. I'm a mark. I used to think of myself as a "Smart Mark" because of all the stuff I've learned about the business. I have friends who run their own indy promotion, and I understand the business. To a point. There is only so much you can learn about it, without being in it. I know enough to totally respect everything that goes into it, and everything that's gone into it.
Very cool video. Thanks for sharing it.
Thanks mark
100% a Mark lol
I really don't have a problem with wrestlers talking about beating such and such's ass for the world belt. I absolutely hate it when they talk about it as if it's a role in a movie. Give me a reason to suspend disbelief.
Mark
Al snow is just ... AWESOME. Totally underrated
Love Al Snow. He isn't full on "Scott Hall" when it comes to "marks" - Scott Hall basically insults every wrestling fan, I appreciate Al's approach. #TheHannibalTV
@The Dude Abides Much love Dude. I hear you, and I'm no Vince McMahon running this shit but wrestling is awful these days. Maybe adding a few fans to the creative team isn't a bad idea.
@E3W I don't know man. I'm a lifelong pro wrestling fan since I was 2 or 3 years old, but I can't even watch it now. Small flippy wrestlers, scripted promos, etc. I'm okay with a script but think back to Steve Austin's days. I'm sure his promos had some scripted bullet points, but he made me believe. I haven't seen that or felt that since Austin, except for watching Hannibal in GNW. #GNWmark
I guess every wrestling fan can insult him by saying ..you all make up phony names and scripted fake fights too..
@@ryanrantovich8308 Says the person paying to watch scripted fake fights between those guys with phony names. 😅
yeah scott hall amazing talent but huge pos.
I didn't realize that Al Snow was this intelligent. After watching several of these mini episodes I have a new found respect for him.
Al Snow is a fantastic teacher. Great videos.
The fact that he's talking about the goddamn carnival days shows that he probably asked or read up a lot about pro wrestling from legends who lived in those days. On top of that Al Snow has always been revered as a great trainer for new wrestlers, and for his knowledge of wrestling holds. He knows a bit about pro wrestling it seems.
He starred in the very early 80s c when a lot of OGs were still around. He's had knowledge dropped on him. I've seen him in a pic with one of the Fabulous Kangaroos. That's old school.
I could listen to Al snow for hours!! A true wrestler mind
Snow's the best. He'll teach you all the basics of good wrestling psychology, while his comedic remarks are constantly cracking me up. I could definitely listen to him for hours.
“I have nothing but good things to say about Al Snow.” -Jim Cornette
"I have nothing but bad things to say about Jim Cornette." -Me
Jim Cornette is a legend show some respect.
Did you hear this in one of his videos? I would love to know which one since big fan of Cornette.
@josemiranda9093V1 I could say the same thing to you
Connie Carroll he mentions how good Al Snow is at booking and running a company in his review of the WWE FCW documentary. Not sure if this is where the exact quote is from but he does respect Al.
Al: What's an opinion? Anybody? It's the lowest form of human knowledge.👌 3:59 I've learn so much Al Snow today. lol😂
Trains4Fun awesomely put
My only complaint about these videos, is that they're to short :(
Liam Divine absolutely.... Al is truly one of thr greats from the 90s who didnt catch fire (but should have). He is giving them gold in these videos... one of my personal favorites and a true journeymen. hes lookin great these days wish he could have another run but maybe helping building the stars of tommorrow is his destiny
Al Snow is the fucking shit (not the "shitz")
Too*
@Quinn Meche
Oops, looks like I made an egregious error :(
Liam Divine Absolutely! :D
You could just pay Al Snow to train you to wrestle. Then you'd hear a lot of these lessons.
Al's a mark for doctors...
He definitely got the clot shot a few times
@@ivanvalentin3898what does that even mean lmao
He said the same thing almost word for word when he was asked about Dave Meltzer.
"Who came up with the term smart mark?" That has to be Brian Pillman. Watch ECW Cyberslam 1996!
The carnival world actually got the term "mark" from con men who used it to refer to the object of their con. Wrestling adopted the word "mark" from its carnival sideshow roots (hence the reason the slang wrestlers used to communicate used to be called "carny"). Unfortunately, some in the business translate that into a disrespect of their fans. While many entertainers don't think much of their fans, the wrestling world suffers from too many workers being blatant about their contempt of the folks buying the tickets and the PPV subscriptions.
i agree john gori, but without the fans that buy those tickets and merch, these wrestlers would be out of work and wrestling itself would die. i see it going that way really, and like al said its just my opinion. with the invention of the internet and everyone having info and knowledge at their fingertips, could slowly help kill the business to an extent. i think the fans help keep it alive because they are such die hard fans. i met a couple of wrestlers that seemed really nice and loved the fans when they are on tv, but acted a completely different way to me when in public. maybe some do truly respect their fans, but i think alot of it is fake for tv ratings. im saying some not all, i havent met that many wrestlers. its hard for fans to differentiate between the person and the wrestler. everyone loves shawn michaels for instance, yet ive seen alot of videos of other wrestlers telling the truth about him and how he was backstage and as a person. so yes, we as fans are all marks! but we allow ourselves to be used as marks because we enjoy wrestling. but like i said i think with all the info out on the internet, could damage and turn off some fans.
I think it got twisted when shoot interviews started and wrestlers would say stuff like "he's a mark for himself" about over wrestlers as a negative thing. And wrestlers will say smart fans are the biggest marks. Because they're the ones on the Internet obsessing over botched and matches and workrate, and calling OTHERS marks in a negative way.
Al snow is spittin’ pure game.
I love how the comment section of the video where Al Snow defines mark has people misusing the word.....
You sound like a smark
This may have been what it meant at carnivals in 1923 but it’s used by plenty of wrestlers for the last 25 years as a slight variation of the term.
this made me love wrestling all over again...
This dude spits so much truth. Much respect.
Marks = fans. That's all we are. And he's absolutely correct in saying that smart marks don't exist. Every wrestler, fan, official, and every other position are always filled by MARKS. Plain and simple!
Al snow has some fucking pythons on him brother
jesus christ Al I'm learning here
I can’t take your pfp seriously
Great lessons! A lot of this knowledge applies well outside wrestling...great life lessons.
Why is it when I think of pro wrestling teachers, trainers, mentors, etc, I think of Al?
Like, even before I started watching these videos
Maybe because he was a trainer on Tough Enough all those years.
@@sethpeoples3056 right. But he looks more jacked now that he's older than he was when he was in WWF.
For anyone arguing about Al's explanation in the video, YOU are exactly what he's referring too. It's all a matter of opinion and perception, and how that's taken into consideration can be the basis of any point of view.
His definition of a mark contradicts itself. Everybody cannot be a mark if the marks are only the ones with deep pockets,
If it’s a matter of opinion and perception then how can you say they are wrong?
Al says "everyone is a mark." No, no, NO!!! As a longtime casino dealer, there are many things that are similar to the wrestling business. Just as Al said correctly, a mark is someone that has money, and is marked because they have more money to spend than the "rubes", or as we called them in our business "FLEAS". Everyone cannot be a mark, as that makes the term completely meaningless. If you "mark" everyone, then how do you know which one has the big money, and which ones you would be wasting your time with? Marks are the ones that buy merch, and add to your income. And no, I agree with Al, you don't let them tell you how to wrestle. But when you have a mark in a casino, you do spend more attention on them, you make sure they get all of their bets in, you make sure the waitress gets them their drinks on time, you tell them funny stories, in general, you make them feel special while they are there. And you don't waste your time on the fleas. In wrestling there are may ways to play up to your marks. One example is if the guys are brawling outside of the ring, the heel can make sure to drag the babyface over in front of the mark, and give him a few shots right there to get the mark even more heated and ready for the babyface comeback. To call everyone a mark simply misses the point entirely. A mark has more money and is willing to part with it, whereas fleas just buy tickets and just about nothing else.
To add to this, why did the WWE win the wrestling wars, leaving all others in the dust, while at the same time offering the WORST wrestling product ever known to mankind? Vince knew how to spot a mark. While other promoters were calling everyone marks, and measuring their success by the number of people that bought tickets, Vince was just a little more greedy, Vince wanted to make more money, and that would require that he identify the "real marks", not just the "fleas" that bought tickets. Vince wanted to identify the fattest wallets, and those customers that would open their wallets, not just to but tickets, but to buy t-shirts, home videos, WWE candy bars and WWE ice cream, buy WWE lunch boxes and WWE backpacks, watch WWE cartoons and all of the rest. Vince identified "parents of children" as the biggest marks, knowing that parents would buy anything for their kids if they screamed for it long enough. It's the exact same thing as the carnival. Grown adults don't want to win stuffed animals, kids do. But parents did not want to take their kids to see bloody barbed wire matches, therefore the WWE set out to "reform" the business by making it kid friendly, no blood and more "Disney" like characters. Vince knew the difference between the "marks" and the very "cash poor" fans that would go to something like ECW.
Spotted the biggest mark, guys. With full-on rationalization at that!
In all of my years dealing, I've never referred to somebody as a "flea." I definitely made mental notes of the Georges and the stiffs. Some of the best Georges I've ever dealt to didn't spend much money. I've also been stiffed many times by guys who had large markers. But for those guys, I'd often send the dice out as a hardway or a 7 hoping it'd jinx them.
@@jd9119 Well sir, maybe you were blessed enough to not have to work the way we did. Now I've dealt to Hollywood stars and some top musicians, but that's not the way we started out. We broke in on the $0.25 tables. We were essentially dealing to the "homeless". Some people's entire bankroll walking in was like $4.50 or $5. 25 cent field bets, 10 cent prop bets, and absolutely full tables, 8 or 9 players on each end. Some you could tell had not had a bath or shower for days upon end. You could easily work for 8 hours without ever receiving a single tip. Waitresses never got a penny from that table as a tip. But you learn, and move up from there. People are different. Casinos do not put these people up in hotels and give them free food. Not all customers are the same. Best wishes to you.
@@georgekenny2294 That sounds like what it was like when I broke in at the Jokers Wild. I remember working a double shift at The Speedway (I worked at both when I was breaking in) and only getting $15 in tokes for 16 hours of work.
My definition of a mark is anyone who spends money on wrestling. (Myself included.)
I've only spent money on the games otherwise I've never given them a penny.
@@L1am21 I don't even waste my money on the games anymore.
@@madhatter8508 I brought 2k18 the load time made it unplayable. I'll never buy 1 again.
@@L1am21 Same and I bought all mine used
in my recommended after two years and honestly this opens my eyes, as in retail we are pretty much told the customer is important mostly because they bring the money into the company and i kinda carried that knowledge with me, appeal to the crowd and get the bank, but this opens my eyes a good bit even though i could never do wrestling as am disabled, but this is a good view to absorb no matter the profession
Guy is smart in his profession and has a lot to still teach
The entire room is filled with marks Al Snow.
I'm so glad I now know where "mark" came from
My left ear knows what a mark is but right ear has no idea
Thank you for this!! 😂 Had to put the dam captions on
I am very invested in the Al Snow vs. Guy from first 5 seconds storyline.
1:10 I work at a Dollar Tree. I can 100 percent say that this is true. All the Dollar Tree food and chemicals are in the back. You have to walk past snacks and toys to get there.
There's an expression i've heard with some sports: if you listen to the fans, you'll end up sitting with them
evey wrestling fan should see this
I was impressed when he comes down on some student, then calmly keeps talking...
Alpha male. In control.
Weapon of Light Good teacher.
Weapon of Light he was making a point about what a mark is
If you're hot, say you're hot. 😂
@@TheDistorted Snow isn't alpha hes just a mark for himself. Alphas dont have an ego like this dude. Trying to sound smarter than everyone.
I don't know how good the doctors are in the States but in my country you absolutely tell the doctor how to fix you if you want something fixed right...
I'll always remember that ECW Brian Pillman quote from a promo there: "what's a smart mark? a guy who spends his last twenty bucks on crack cocaine".
Love the analogies he uses to describe the term "Marks."
I'm pretty sure that it is absolutely impossible to answer an Al Snow question correctly.
Yea he is a know it all clown who answers his own question 1 sec later. Why ask a question then? Is he trying to reaffirm his stupid points by asking himself the questions making sure HE knows the answers? This guy needs a new gimmick
I have quite some insight into the wrestling business now. And i really enjoy Al Snow's knowledge sharing.
"What's an opinion? It's the lowest form of human knowledge."
Let's goooooo
so adam blompied is a smark?
well he was a mark until he opened wcpw.
+SkilesHasFun it's a lot of marks "in the business"
The biggest mark is the one who thinks he isn't a mark. Everyone is a mark.
Stu Hart once said that the biggest marks on planet Earth are the wrestlers themselves.
They have to love it to put up with all of the shit involved in it.
"Mark Smart" should be the name of a new wrestler. He can be really obnoxious and annoying.
Hahahahaha so true Lmaooooooo
It is in TEW.
I love listening to Al Snow. It's important to listen to your customers but at the same time, most of them won't have the knowledge you have.
He’s basically talking about Dave Meltzer
Al Snow, that’s so deeply profound that “an opinion is the lowest form of human knowledge”. Wow. I really enjoy your super informative videos, sir. Can u send me an autograph? Thank you!
the man makes a good point. makes sense not only in his chosen profession but in every day life...imho
What are some good books I can read on wrestling history?
I thought Brian Pillman coined the term smart mark, when trying to work regular marks at an ECW taping?
He didn't create smart mark.it existed for years before pillman
Michael Allan Rubin he was the first to use it on the public. Find me another wrestler who used it in a promo before this.
Itd be an honor for Al Snow to say hed knock some sense into me
Oh this whole time I thought I knew a good movie from a bad movie but I've never acted or made my own movie so what do I know
very interesting video. also the dude is jacked af.
Al snow is the man
0:20 what did the guy say for Al to respond like that lol
I really dig all of these Al Snow videos but often struggle with this whole thing that some wrestlers tend to have of, "If you're not a wrestler, you can't have an opinion on my match."
I'm the audience. You are putting on a performance. If I, as a member of the audience, am not entertained and drawn into what you're doing then you're not doing it very well. I can watch a movie and know whether that movie was good or crap despite not being an actor or writer or director or lighting guy or Foley artist or cameraman etc. How do I know? Because the point is to entertain me and others like me. If none of us are entertained, the movie was bad.
The wrestler to doctor analogy is flawed. If you want to compare wrestling to medicine, it wouldn't be in terms of telling the doctor what to do but more in terms of telling the doctor if what he did fixed you or not. If I go to the doctor and he diagnoses me with the flu and treats me for the flu and in the end, I have sinus problems that also cause gastroenterological problems due to the drainage of mucus then I don't have to be a doctor to know that he did a bad job, I just have to know the results of his work.
Agreed 100%. There is a massive difference between being a doctor and being a performer. The whole success of wrestling is based on the audience. A doctor isn't a doctor based on what the patient thinks of them. It's more in line with performance work. You don't need to be an actor or a filmmaker to know a good movie from a bad movie. You don't need to be a musician to know musical talent from a lack thereof. Just as wrestling fans don't have to be wrestlers to know if a match is enjoyable or not. There are a million occasions where wrestlers put together matches that bomb or get panned. How is that possible if the only people who truly know what quality wrestling is are the wrestlers themselves? It's beyond flawed logic. Honestly, this logic Al and many other people within the business have with this subject is sourced in arrogance and ego. They want to believe wrestling is such a high-level thing that only certain "worthy" people inside the industry could possibly ever comprehend or have an opinion of it. It's just ridiculous.
You are mistaking your opinion as having value, good and bad are subjective terms outside of objective measurement. If a guy botches 5 moves and almost kills a guy, he is bad, he has had a bad match. If he does everything he was supposed to do and you didn't like it that doesn't make him or his match bad, just not to your taste.
Entertainment obviously means that you can have an opinion, but you don't have a buy-in to the outcome, other than not spending money to see it again. So to liken it to a movie, if you don't like Tom Cruise, you don't get to tell him how he should act is his next movie...you sure as shit can write to him and tell him you think he is trash as an actor and you hate his performances, but you do not get to control his next movie, what it is about, whether he wins or loses in it and so on. All you can do is just never go see another Tom Cruise movie.
Too many wrestling fans think they "own" wrestling or wrestlers in a way you don't see in any other form of entertainment, no one does that sort of shit to TV shows or films or theatre shows, no one goes to the opera and says I want to see Ulysses do more 450 sentons I was bored with all his head locks. The people writing the TV show house aren't going oh my God everyone is saying Jesse should get a bigger push, we should re-write this season so he becomes the main star.
Go to the event, watch the matches, cheer the good guys, boo the bad guys, marvel at the things another human is willing to do to their body in order to entertain you, go home. You don't run wrestling, your opinion doesn't matter, who you like and don't like doesn't matter, for everyone one of you and your opinion there is an antithesis.
The writers and promoters set up the stalls not you, you don't get to go to a carnival and say, hey I hate the whole test of strength thing, I think it is dumb change it to duck shooting. You go there and go urrrggghhh I hate the test of strength I am not paying for that.
You can have your opinion and vote with your wallet but I have listened to "fans" that want Finn Balor to get a push and have title, then they are like Rusev should have a title, hey why aren't they pushing Andrade more, he should have a title, Seth Rollins is better than Lesner he should have a title....if wrestling promoters listened to these idiots they would be changing champion every damn week to appease the current trend because people have the attention span of a fish and just want new shit all the time....as soon as a guy goes from NXT to Raw everyone then instantly is like...geee why are they pushing this old talent...push the guy from NXT....they push him....repeat cycle.
Fans should go back to shutting the fuck up and enjoying the damn show, liking who they like, disliking who they dislike and that is it.
@ghostface3279 so that goes back in to the part on opinion. That same match gets done a town over and they love it, so then it is a good match? Can a match be objectively good and bad? No, it is subjective, and subjectivity is fine you can like and dislike who and what you like.
The idea that what “you” like and dislike is important is what is wrong. I didn’t like SCSA back in the day, you know what I did? I went and made food, or a drink when his match was on, or just turned off. I would moan to my wrestling fan friends, they would moan about their dislikes. Never did I want them to change what they were doing, or did I bully promotions in to pushing the people I liked. I just kept hoping they would get bored of ol’ stone col’ and see value in someone else.
His matches weren’t bad they were just dull to me personally, my friends loved his shit so they were good to them. There is never 100% consensus on subjective ideas.
SO BASICALLY TO SUM IT UP MARKS BRING MONEY. THEY MIGHT BE ANNOYING AND AGGRAVATING AT TIMES BUT THEY ARE KEY IN A WRESTLING PROMOTIONS SUCCESS
Al is the smartest person in the business. I was lucky enough to meet him - absolutely quality guy.
@Iteration Zero opinions are based on some form of knowledge whether said knowledge is rooted in true facts or not. An opinion is a personal conclusion or feeling through 'perceived' knowledge; factual or not it matters, especially in this context because "opinions" are what these performers use, play off of and manipulate for success...thus "lowest form of knowledge" is a very good descriptor for an opinion.
Even if the opinion is shitty it can still be used against the holder and used to push a performance and the reaction of said performance to a somewhat predictable outcome.
Opinions in the arena of pro wrestling are often created by the "KNOWLEDGE" the performers ALLOW the viewer to have access to.
"Lowest form of knowledge"
It's a perfect description.
@Iteration Zero that long winded copy and paste reply was ridiculous. I didn't read it all and o never will.
What Snow said makes sense- especially in context of TEACHING others about pro wrestling psychology.
Get over yourself.
@Iteration Zero ok einstein, lol...
That was pretty hilarious. Are you doing a comedy schtick or some form of high brow performance art?
Here's the deal- your flimsy (at best) attempt at intellectualism is completely transparent and psuedo. It's a projection. It's kind of funny but even more embarrassing.
Let's think this out--- we're discussing pro wrestling.
This is NOT a deep academic discussion for the ages.
This is a pro wrestler, with tons of experience, teaching greenhorns fundamentals of the physical performance and psychology that pushes the act forward.
CONTEXT, yes context...let's sound it out together-
C.O.N.T.EX.T.
Opinions ARE the lowest form of knowledge. Wrestlers play off of, use, manipulate & change the lowest form of knowledge to a desired effect. The degree of manipulation depends on how good the individual, product and/or promotion is.
You're not as smart as you think you are and getting caught up in arguing a word OUT OF CONTEXT oozes with the desperate need to compensate.
Keep this about wrestling and you might do ok.., maybe.
No one gives a shit what you looked up on wikipedia or anywhere else.
If all you can do is criticize a person's use of words and definitions- without proper context of said word/definition then you really have nothing of depth or importance to say.
BTW- your comment makes you come across like a pompous tart.
This is good business advice actually
This is so paradoxical to us fans watching at home. With each bit of information I accrue online I become more informed than ever, but I still don't know shit lol. The wrestling business is so fascinating, particularly in a psychological sense.
i agree , it is fascinating. but lately ive been watching alot of these ex wrestlers talk about the business, it kinda seems like a dirty sleesy place where people(promoters) use other people. kinda flash peddling in a sense. so its not too far off from prostitution or porn. you have a pimp (promoters/owners etc.), prostitutes ( wrestlers), and then the johns (fans) or as he likes to call them marks! sorry i dont really care for that term, no matter what context he uses it in! not good business to call the people that pay to watch them marks! after all without the so called "MARKS" he wouldnt have a job and wouldnt be able to support his family and put food on the table.
The sad thing is the fans these days know more about what makes good wrestling and ring psychology than a lot of the wrestlers today.
@@erraticstatic70 The way you put it there sounds like every single workplace in America.
why wasnt al snow part of the raw reunion?
Any angle where I am trying to second guess if it is a work or a shoot = success
As long as it isn't "Owen voice" injury or using real names.
I think his point is a little contradictory. A mark (money target) would pay more if they saw what they wanted to see. So their opinion matters a lot to the match if you're trying to hook them. Right?
Damn. Did someone really get an Al Snow question correct?!
Al Snow needs to write a book on wrestling terms. Marks are all those with a shitload of money at the carnival
The crazy guy that argued with a mannequin head and ate his own dog is smarter than I am.......
That's a tough pill to swallow
Al snow probably looks the best out of all the wrestlers from the Attitude Era. He looks better than even he did back then. Now I don’t know if his physique is natural or not, but still.
Him and corny need to start a company.
The mid carders are always the most talented and smartest guys in the biz
A lot of what he says is golden but I have to disagree with him on not letting fans dictate your performances. In a previous video he stated that if you wouldn't watch your own match then how can you expect others to want to watch it and that you should base your performance on if it's drawing money. Well if people criticize your match and you don't listen, they'll stop watching and you'll stop drawing. Therefore it is the fans that should dictate how a wrestler performs. Logic like this is why wwe is stagnant while organizations like njpw continue to grow. Because they give us, the "marks" what we want to see. Because we're the ones keeping the lights on.
Smark.
You’re not paying to see a product that u want to see, when you go to a movie the plot isn’t exactly to your liking. How many times has a movie ended a way u strongly disliked? You pay to see others ideas, and that’s what fans of today get fucked up. They are here because of you, they operate because of you, but you’re there because of them, because of their ideas that they share, not because they pander to your liking.
Lemme complete the final sentence: _"...in this dojo, does it!?"_
Al Snow loves medicine. Looks like it
turtlehead2 steroids?
Al Snow is completely right on this. This is why i cant stand wrestling fans these days. Every fan i know, talks about how some wrestlers didnt bump right, the promo didnt get heat, that wrestler should break his opponents leg to get a reaction, etc. These are fans that think they work there, every fan uses wrestling terms as if they work in wrestling. thats none of our business nor our concern. I'm just a fan, if i like a confrontation from my favorite wrestler ill cheer. especially if it delivers. so even tho al snow is right, the fans nowadays are just to informed, wrestling secrets are just too exposed now. i feel like i have seen every scenario in the wrestling book. so al snow, these "marks" that are now the majority of your fan base are buying your tickets. this internet knowledge dominating the fanbase. how can you fix that al?? must be frustrating for you. its like me going to watch a movie, and a friend constantly telling me that this actor isnt reacting strong enough, or the camera angle is off. while they are concentrated on that, they miss the story being told, and it could be a good one.
That's exactly how I think, I know what some of the wrestling terminology is but I don't use it to make myself smarter if I don't know what it means. I hear terms like "being buried" or "jobbing" all the time when wrestlers lose matches, but I just call it winning and losing, no need to use terms you don't understand, especially if you don't work in the business.
Exactly. I try to avoid terminology all together myself. I approach wrestling from a business standpoint, because that's what wrestling is. It's a machine designed to make money. It baffles me when people try to treat it like it's anything else. The fans that do are usually the ones misusing insider terms.
mark sarabia your comment is the smartest in this comment section.. Even though it's 10 months ago
Very good point here’s my take on it. I agree with you that some people tend to use the terms just to make themselves sound smart. I also hate hearing people assume that someone is “being buried” when that may not actually be the case. The thing that gets to me is that wrestling fans don’t want to give things a chance. AJ Styles for example the moment he lost at Wrestlemania 32 people were saying he’s not going to be used correctly. When he lost to Reigns people were said Styles is being “fed to him” and that he will be “buried” well by the end of the year he was Wwe champion.
Yeah, it's rare that wrestling fans just enjoy the medium these days (it's entertainment after all)
"If you got hurt, would you tell the doctor how to fix you?"
"What's that? Why not?"
"...'Cause you're not a fucking doctor!"
*Al Snow* 2️⃣0️⃣2️⃣0️⃣
🔥🔥🔥
There is more knowlege in this video than i have ever seen in a wrestling video
Al snow is jacked, holy shit
Came here for wrestling inside shit, left with life lessons
You don't have to change it, you have to accept it, the problem with some veterans of the business is that obviously the business has changed a lot and there's nothing to do about it, the whole "mark" and "smarks" mentality is outdated because they're expecting people to behave the same way they used to when the business was very different, that's why I don't agree with people like Cornette for example (Regarding to this matter, I actually like Cornette) they're lacking perspective and context, people criticize wrestlers and use wrestling terminology because they appreciate wrestling in another level now, they learned to appreciate wrestling without the kayfabe, that's how the wheels are able to keep turning, the problem here is that some people can't seem to understand something so obvious, Internet changed society as a whole, it changed people, why would the wrestling world be any different?? And that's why people like The Young Bucks and the Indies are thriving, because they are the ones who understand.
i agree completely jacktrack7! i think that was kinda my point in my earlier comment. you cant expect the wrestling business to stay the same way as it was say in the 60's,70's and even the 80's. times are different now and technology has infiltrated everything in our daily lives. with wrestling, i think it could and has hurt it somewhat. or maybe i should say its hurt certain peoples view of wrestling. but you cant stop change, so i think its up to these wrestling promotions to figure out how to cope with it. their sport has been so secretive for so long, that im not sure how wrestling will be able to continue because thats what it soley seems based on. once you pull the curtain back and see, oh its not a wizard its just another guy, you cant close the curtain back.
@The Dude Abides That has nothing to do with what we're talking about, even the most casual of crowds has changed a lot and knows that kayfabe is dead, as I said you can't stop change and if you fail to see or accept something like that then my friend I'm afraid you are the only idiot here, under your same logic, sure they're gonna keep making money no matter what but guess what? People who are not casuals are gonna keep using wrestling terminology, criticising wrestlers and wrestling companies no matter what, so why people like you keep crying about it? Let me ask you this? Do you think you or any wrestling company would be able to stop it? Might as well grow up and accept it.
Also, sure WWE is gonna continue to mainly focus on kids and the casual crowd, that is true, but let's not pretend here that they haven't changed his style to appeal to the "smark crowd" as well buddy, cause that's certainly not the case, they want to get the non-casual fans too so stop talking as if they wouldn't care at all, they obviously do.
Poor Dave Meltzer. Lol
Nice class, I learned something!
Al's got a hell of a build
Al snow is a legend man
You’re in the entertainment industry if your goal is not to give the fans something they will enjoy and continuously pay to see unless your just naturally amazing you won’t make that money.
All the smart marks are vanishing from existence because Al said they did not exists. That was the source of their power
Many wrestling veterans have differing opinions and use the term "Mark" meaning different things. Some do use "Fans" and "Mark" interchangeably and as an insult to the person.
Hey. thats Barbados Flag behind there.
Yep, because this is where the trainer for this school, Dru Onyx, comes from.
The grocery store thing is funny I work at one called Kroger and thats actually how it works all the good shit is in the way back
In Australian Football a mark is when a player catches the ball. If we've spent money on pro wrestling we're all marks in a way.
Mark is a term for someone whose ticket was marked because they had a lot of money.
A wise wise man Al is
Al Snow is a very smart man.
great teacher ! not a top tier but can make
top tier wrestlers
Al is looking great these days.