Can you imagine being someone who is schizophrenic or in someway struggles with delusions and then hearing millions of people on the Internet tell you that you are not real and that you can escape to other realities? seriously dangerous rhetoric
Yeah I go through delusional episodes that are exactly that, and honestly I have to stay away from tik tok for that reason. I watch the videos my friends send me and seek out absolutely nothing on my own. My brain tells me I’m living in a simulation where the only escape is death just fine on its own; I don’t need a fifteen-year-old babbling nonsense in an attempt to confirm it lmao
I talked with some who was schizophrenic and bad episodes, somebody convinced them that they should "shift" so it could comfort them but it made their delusions worst.
schizophrenic people dont listen to other people, they only put faith and thought into their own thoughts and ideas, not being able to reason with them also means you cant really troll them either, they sometimes take inspiration from the world, connecting 1 idea to another, but you cant really "direct" them towards any idea
Amen. This is a very well made video too. Funny and still sensitive to those with real disabilities. This is just kids playing pretend. Man, I'm really glad I didn't have a phone when I was in my childhood 😅 - I was embarrassing! I used to think if I held on tight to an umbrella, that I would safely float down from anything like Kirby. Lmao. The adults doing it.. need a reality smack. Or to just find other adults to do it with. Telling kids their imaginations are 100% real is dangerous.
@@minajones8341yes, it is bad when people confuse their desired reality with this one, but there’s nothing wrong with the shifting community. creators like this are bringing the attention to shifting ( mainly tiktoks fault ) and it’s bringing a ton of hate into this community of mainly minors. all im saying is for you not to put reality in quotation marks, because that can be offensive to shifters. you wouldn’t put other words in quote marks unless you’re trying to offend them, not always but most of the time. so could you and everybody else just leave the shifting community alone, and if you’re going to pull out the “get a therapist” or “but it’s a mental disorder” card, then you can just shut up. im not talking about the people who actually do need help, im talking about the shifters in general. so please be a little more respectful to the shifting community.
I once had a dream where i was eating a person’s face in a dark, damp room and i woke up in paralysis. I commented it on one of those shift toks (for some reason) and everybody was telling me i had actually killed a real person. I can not with this generation
I once had a dream about a possessed lightning mcqueen action figure. I had no weapons so I had to pry open the hood and tear apart his organs with my bare hands to make sure he wouldn’t come back. Wonder what they’d think of that one 😅
@@alllies5271 yes that's true but not in a hardcore-fan kind of way, more in a going mental because a actor is attractive kind of way, you know what I mean?
imagine living 3 whole years in one world, growing, changing, learning, maturing - and then coming back to this one and still being fifteen. i'd be livid
Have you seen Star vs the Forces of Evil? Marco, the main dude character, does pretty much that for real, except he became a badass warrior until he got to his 30s and then he had to go back to being a teenager again.
It would be the equivalent of making a lot of progress in a game for three hours, only to lose and then having to go back to the very beginning because you forgot to save in-between.
I actually saw a TikTok where a girl shifted to a reality to MURDER people… everyone in the comments called her a murderer… some even said she actually had to go to jail in THIS reality because she murdered “real” people… because apparently in the shifting community, every single person is real, even the ones in other realities. So they said she was a terrible person for killing “real” people with “real” feelings
This shit is honestly terrifying to me. As a schizophrenic with delusions that often include being forced into another reality (sometimes to the point of losing complete touch with reality and missing weeks or months of real time), the idea that people are just going around with all this "it's a simulation" stuff or "I spent 3 years at Hogwarts".. that's so scary. And it really can be dangerous for people like me who already struggle so much with staying in touch with reality, having people outside of our head suggest we aren't real or that reality is practically collapsing all around as at any given point can absolutely increase our suffering.
If it puts your mind at ease (somewhat) - shifting is, most definitely, just lucid dreaming and nothing more. Lucid dreaming is real and it's also pretty awesome, but all of these people are massively exaggerating their experiences (or just lying entirely to fit in). It also takes quite a lot of practice to do it with any amount of consistancy or stability (the vast majority of people will just wake up the instant they start lucid dreaming due to the excitement of it working, which takes a lot of time/patience to get past). So, long story short, Gen Z discovered lucid dreaming, gave it a new name, and massively exaggerated their experiences with it.
So you say you're schizophrenic, and I am a reality shifter. Just to clearify, reality shifters don't say that we live in a simulations, that's a theory, but has NOTHING to do with reality shifters. Real shifters know that's not true, no, they believe we live in realitites, like dimensions. And that's nothing like simulations. And they do not say that we, people are not real, that's absurd. And we do not say that our reality is collapsing around us, I wonder who told you that, because they aren't shifters. I don't know how it is for a schizophrenic person to know about reality shifting but I'm a person with mental health issues and It totally helped me and saved my life. It's fine If you don't believe in it, but don't put words in mouths of real shifters
The worst part of all of this is that these kids think they can go to a world where they have magic and are as powerful as they want. They instead choose to screw Draco Malfoy....
I just want to point out that not everyone is shifting for that purpose (you probably already knew that but I just wanted to point it out) me for example I'm shifting so I can escape everything I'm dealing with, and I go somewhere that I belong and somewhere where I'm free from everything and get to see my comfort character. Of course some people are shifting so they can sleep with draco but there's also people like me who are shifting for another reason
Not all of them do. I don't like Draco, and I'm just going to live there, lol. I want to go to Hogwarts, try different magical jobs, be a part of the Order, try new things. I have in fact shifted before, just not to a DR. And believe me, I could not tell it was not my CR. I mean, I saw a few things were different, but I made up excuses for why it was that way, as I am lazy af and did not want to check. It was as real as this reality, I swear. Lucid dreaming cannot do that. I mean, I watch about 50+ TH-cam videos a day, and so did I in that parallel CR, I'd be a fucking genius to perfectly make up TH-cam videos.
@@meropedurwood5514 yeah, people get the idea that it's fake and just lucid dreaming but its not lucid dreaming lucid dreaming you really don't have control over the dream but shifting you have complete control over. Yes, you don't have to script nor listen tiktok about this. Infact you can leave it all up to the universe if you'd like but it's not fake. As a person who has known about this for a long time, it really isn't lucid dreaming nor is it fake.
@@thespectrumshock269 I agree with you, but I think you switched the definitions of shifting and lucid dreaming. When you shift, you cannot control your surroundings, you're not God. You are in a different reality, and unless you have the lifa-app or a lifa-journal, you cannot change that reality. In a lucid dream you have control, you can make things appear and disappear.
I would assume they would be purebloods in their supposed ideal reality. Nevermind the fact that Draco would be an adult by the time they go to Hogwarts.
It also just doesn't make sense, since they say you have to write a script and know everything about what you 'shift' into so J.K would literally have to write it beforehand either way
aw 🥺🥺 someone doesnt like when people make silly theories about their beliefs and favorite books 🥺🥺 r u the same person who says something racist and go people can't even joke anymore 🥺🥺
I had a huge shifting phase a few years back when I was like 11 or 12, it was horrible. I spent so long making up scenarios that I genuinely stopped talking to my friends. I've now realized that it was just another form of escapism from my depression. I think this shit is EXTREMELY harmful to people who struggle with mental illnesses.
I am mentally unstable, but not in that way and a few of my friends are in the shifting community so I just got a little bit closer to them for about two weeks and then everything went back to normal and I always did things and took like an hour to script at night which I still do if I’m going to shift, which is about three or four times a month(I am depressed, but my escapism is Minecraft and that’s a lot more healthy because all my friends play Minecraft so the most you’ll get is a rant about Pandoras vault)
@@icecreamcake6238 yes but a lot of shifters claim they're traveling to an independent reality that exists outside of their head which is... I think they just haven't experienced vivid or lucid dreams before and so when they come to awareness in a dream they think it's shifting
Why do people always assume they if they land in another reality they would be main characters or connected to the main characters? Imagine if shifting was real and you just become one of the crushed under a building that Superman just punched
They say it’s not dreaming cause it feels so real. I had a dream last night where I killed fuckin Kermit the frog. I woke up with tears streaming down my face. I thought it was the evil frog. I’m still sad
I had a dream I was eating ice cream. Then my alarm went off. I tried to continue eating my ice cream after I woke up, saying something like, “one second, I gotta do this” When I realized it was a dream, I just kinda sat there like, _did I actually just try to eat ice cream that didn’t exist?_
@@dreamwish286 xD I once tried to take a book from the shelf in my dream but for some reason I couldn't even lift it, when I woke up I realized I was pulling my pillow :"D
i had a dream harry styles came to my room for my birthday and signed all of my stuff and hung out with me. i thought it as so real and i woke up so sad because i swore it was real lol but it was just a dream
@@dreamwish286 I once woke up sitting up in bed holding up my arm as if I was talking on the phone and tried to continue my conversation into the waking world lmao
As a person who daydreams often, I can say that imagining meeting your favorite characters isn’t automatically a bad thing. The problem comes when you begin to convince yourself that it’s real, if you keep pretending that these people and places are real you will get sick mentally. My daydreams aren’t the healthiest, but I’m seeing a therapist and actively seeking help to get through my past trauma. Over the last year my daydreams have become less important to my daily life and I’m living happy and in the moment. Shifting isn’t real and it isn’t healthy
I daydream too! I don't really think shifting is real but I still enjoy thinking about a wholesome story with characters that I like. I usually do it before sleeping, it gets me really relaxed.
as a maladiptive daydreamer, i can say that daydreaming is okay and escapism is fine UPTO AN EXTENT. if it starts bothering your real life then thats where the issue comes in. also these tiktokers trying to convince kids that shifting is real need serious help lmao theyre basically romanticizing unhealthy lifestyle habits
@@devidocs this. Saying imagining yourself in a story is a bad thing is not right. There is a time and place for escapism. But as soon as real life suffers because of it or one thinks it is real etc. Then it becomes a problem
I read a comment on shift-tok once, some kid wrote that she really have to learn how to shift soon, she didn't have much time because her aunt is dying on cancer and she needs to shift to a reality where they have cure for cancer. And some other person was like "yea, you can do it, that's a great idea", I got so mad I uninstalled the app
To be fair, that person was probably grieving and they didn’t know what else they could do. The person who said it was a good idea was probably also a child. I’m not saying it’s right, but they didn’t know any better and had nowhere else to turn to.
I was thinking the same thing. when I went thru a traumatic event I slept for days and says so I could live in my dreams for about half a year. it's not healthy
@@tamsynfox idk i just wish for them to find health and happiness. spending too much time online is inevitable because of the pandemic but its good to get a break sometimes 💜
I think that nobody talks enough about the fact that when you "shift”, you create the possibility that you will start hating your reality. I know this girl on TikTok who constantly posts TikToks where she is crying about waking up from her desire reality, shows how she changes her physical appearance because she doesn’t like her real body, doesn’t make friends because she says the only friends she needs are the ones from hogwarts, etc. And it’s really sad how much these people are desperate to scape this world. So, even if you are a Harry Potter fan and you would like to meet your confort characters, it’s better to start working on this reality, because it’s the only one that counts.
Jokes on you I'm not a shifter and I already hate my reality and would do anything to go somewhere else. I just can't force myself to believe in things with no evidence
When I first saw a shifting TIkTok I googled what "shifting" meant because I didn't understand what was going on and found an article where they spoke to a therapist about it. She claimed that there was nothing inherently mentally unhealthy or harmful about shifting, unless the idea of "consensual reality" is being challenged (i.e. they no longer know what is and isn't real as agreed upon by society). What I don't think a lot of older people or mental health professionals are understanding is how seriously some kids seem to be taking this and that rejecting the currently agreed upon version of reality is almost necessary to being a part of the shifting community. Mental health experts say that shifting is in essence deep meditation, but shifters insist it is an actual part of our real existence, not just inside their heads. That is a rejection of the consensus reality and it is NOT HEALTHY.
yeah i think that's a really good point, and it's just so worrying that it's the unhealthy mindset that seems to consume most of the shifting side of tiktok, and a lot of the audience that get stuck in that rabbithole are only minors )):
Did she talk at all about whether it has a negative effect on your life and your ability to handle the basic aspects of living in society?? If it is interfering with you getting and keeping a job, keeping up with your regular bills and chores, maintaining friendships, and stuff like that, then it is definetely unhealthy, and I would be surprised if she didn't talk about that. For me, the issue with this all is that people are advertising shifting as something that everyone needs to try, and as a way to live your fantasy and escape this reality. You might as well be advertising drugs at that point... sure, shifting may not be physically dangerous like drugs, or cause physical withdrawal symptoms like drugs, but it is just as capable of making people hopelessly addicted to it. If you give some the ability to live in a perfect, fantasy world, then there is a really good chance they will choose to live there instead of here, especially if they believe that world is just as real is this one. That is seriously unhealthy. Sure, if you are using it to escape trauma I get it, but there are still things in this reality that are worth sticking around for. If you keep shifting away into another world, dedicating yourself to that reality more and more, until it becomes more important than this one, who knows what amazing things here that you could end up missing out on. What if the pain from this reality would have ended up starting you on an amazing journey of self discovery and love and personal success, but you never get to experience it because you kept choosing the other reality?? Getting all your fantasies fulfilled sounds amazing, but at a certain point, I don't think it would be very meaningful. If everything goes the way you want, and you specifically go to a world where it is automatically great for you, what exactly has been achieved? There would be no struggle, nothing to overcome, no adversity to rise above. I just can't help but think that succeeding in our world where pain and suffering exists would be so much more meaningful than succeeding in a world where you were meant to succeed from the start, you know? I just hope people don't waste away their lives in a fantasy world, never actually sticking around in this one long enough to give it a shot. Sometimes you may end up spending years struggling, but what if it ends up being worth it in the end? What if you end up achieving your dreams despite all the pain and suffering?? Would it be worth throwing that life away for a fantasy life where everything always goes right? I don't think it would.
“Shifting” sounds a lot like plain old disassociating or derealization. It happens to a lot of people who have depression because they’re essentially trying to escape reality.
Lmao I was going to say! I was a suuuuuuuper depressed 13year old "shifting" in my dreams realities for what felt like weeks at a time. I even got married once 😰
Yeah that's why so many people being like "haha gen z cringe" feels very wrong to me, these people seem to suffer from mental health problems and just laughing at that feels wrong
I had a shifting phase. It went on for about a year and a half, so I was like 13/14. I was UNHEALTHILY obsessed with anime, and I'd try and shift every night to a different storyline where all the things I hated about myself were erased or improved. This was also during the lockdown which made it even worse. I listened to those 'shifting subliminals' while I was doing schoolwork. They triggered severe dissociation and I would listen to them for hours on end, believing that the dissociation was helping me shift. In the shifting community, many big creators talk a lot about how 'if you are shifting to escape, the universe will stop you', but the entire idea of shifting is based on escapism and dissociation. That year and a half that I was trying to shift, I had really bad intrusive thoughts and was dissociating at random points in my daily life. I'm very lucky to not struggle with those things much anymore but I still come across them on occasion. Shifting is unhealthy. Don't get into it, the consequences could be irreversible. - ming
I haven’t ever tried to shift because I didn’t even know about it until recently, but I did have some nights when I was younger when I imagined myself getting isekaied into an anime universe and interacting with the characters there before going to sleep, so this kind of resonates with me.
All of the people who say things like “JK Rowling must have shifted to come up with all of this” piss me off on so many levels. Like first of all-it’s just wizards guys. it’s just wizards with some latin. it is really not the most creative thing ever. secondly-it has the same energy as people saying “wow did you make that while on drugs???” like things like that annoy me so much. just because you’re not creative doesn’t mean people can’t be.
also there's a really interesting video about how the magical kid going to school and escaping his shitty reality was an incredibly overdone trope even before the HP books came out
Fr though, whenever someone makes a trippy looking music video or sings a song with psychedelic rock elememts it's always 'Did they make this on drugs?'
@@suvajajeyanand8272 Yeah, maybe get some help instead of relying on something that may not even be real. Also if it was real a lot of the world's problems like cancer would be fixed by now because we would have the answers to the universe, but guess what, we don't. Sorry to say that.
@@xaviersprister5462 well you said that just while inwas in the middle of a meltdown cus I love someone who isn't even real :) ye, no, imma seek therapy 👍🏽
See I think its weird too, I just try to attempt shifting for shits and giggles, I've never had an experience like it before so if it does happen it would be cool
@@suvajajeyanand8272 that's okay, I am a maladaptive daydreamer and I love people who aren't even real, I just create comfort characters for quick relief out of this reality
The discussion about this always reminds me of Leonardo DiCaprio’s wife in Inception, who essentially lived in a dream where they could control everything for years in her mind and woke up, and was so depressed and convinced that our world wasn’t real either that she ended up killing herself. Sort of a cautionary tale for these people.
The biggest give away that it’s all fake is the fact that EVERYONE is meeting Harry, the twins, etc. They’re just meeting the characters of the series. You’d think if this actually was shifting to a different reality then there would be some new people for them to talk about. They wouldn’t all just date draco lmao
just wanted to point out a decent sized plot hole, why do they never mention that anything happens with non main character students if they’re actually going there? they should have hundreds of interactions with the other students alongside the main characters lol
yeah but those videos don't get views so they don't make them LMAO i've seen plenty of videos talking about random people they've met but they don't get views cuz everyone is just confused in the comments
and they never talk about the school part of the magic school theyre "shifting" too, they never mention the classes, or taking tests. its like theyre in an empty room with draco malfoy and harry potter
They do, ive followed many people who talked about them being friends with side characters and them talking about what their friendship is like. But at the same time thats not what people are most interested in. When shifters script their friends they will most likely choose main characters they know
Yeah, as a shifter, and hogwards shifter specifically. Some people choose to just interact with main people, some not. It isn't true that we don't talk about other students in hogwards. You hear exactly what you want, nothing more
It’s not if we exist or not, because it’s obvious to an individual that at least you exist to yourself. The question is to what level we exist, and the nature of existence as a whole. Just kids trying their damndest to rationalize our already impossible existence in an even more impossible way. But you still right tho.
My boyfriends little sister fully believes that her boyfriend is Chris Evans. Like Captain America chris evans... she has given her bank password to this guy online thinking it was him because she’s so invested in that world. It’s so upsetting like it should not be normalized... it literally harms people.
i honestly do not understand what this has to do with shifting. ma’am- that’s called being delusional- you never said that she shifted, you just said she was obsessed, and you’ve gotten all these likes from people who now have the misinformation that if you shift, you’re going to end up giving your bank password to a random guy online pretending to be captain america. i- no.
One of the weirdest things about this to me is that they aren't sexualizing the characters from Harry Potter, they're sexualizing the portrayal of them by real actors, child actors at that.
exactly, and itd be one thing if it was just other minors making the videos (still weird, but not illegal in application) but these are _adults_ which is insane i remember seeing a clip a little while ago of malfoy’s actor, now an adult, being visibly uncomfortable when someone brought up shifting like, with fictional characters represented by like animation or from books its harmless, but actors? _people?_ its so strange
and i’m sure this has caused a lot of panic attacks for ppl. i’m sure if i was like 15, i’d believe this and would freak the fuck out. poor kids man :/
That’s what I was thinking too, I feel like hallucinating or whatever this is w depersonalising is a serious mental health issue and they need serious help
@@minajones8341 Yeaaaah I don't exactly practice shifting/lucid dreaming or whatever it is. But I've been doing hypnosis and self-hypnosis more and more lately where you converse with your subconscious. Ngl I have been actually concerned it might evolve into DID at some point with how much I compartmentalize it and if I already feel that way about self hypnosis where I still have a form of consciousness over it...I can't imagine what that must be like with the kind they're doing.
Uhh lil note Just want everyone 2 know that i no longer reallyyy believe in shifting, i was really looking into it and i think what most people are getting it confused with VIVID dreaming, its a phenomenon where ur dreams are so realistic u confuse them with reality, theyre sleep conditions which give u this chronically, but apparently concentration can willfully prompt it to happen (or so i assume) , honestly idk if i believe in it or not i think lucid dreaming and shifting have the same Structure of realness, but ive seen people that have group shifted (which is pretty self explanatory) and they say they remember stuff and the things they did. Which would be weird cuz idk how they could know *your* lucid dream. I think im a very gullible person (which u could probably tell) so they can always be lying but idk. Stuff is weird
I'm 16, I was in a pretty dark place last year and I was desperate. Shifting felt like a way to escape my unhappy life and I was seeing so many people (including friends of mine) saying it worked. I believed it. I tried to do it multiple times. I was never able to do it. This made me feel even worse because the only hope I had at the time for my future was going to a different reality. I really feel like these people are (unintentionally) causing a lot of harm to vulnerable teenagers and people in general.
Yess literally! It’s kinda fd up if you think about it. They lie to vulnerable teens and convince them that it’s real. I hope you’re feeling better these days.
@@Lisa-gl7rc I'm doing a lot better now, but it just makes me feel so bad thinking about all the other kids who are probably struggling because of all of this. I hope this whole shifting "trend" dies down soon
An ex girlfriend of mine was obsessed with shifting and honestly I never said anything but it really hurt me how she would complain about trying so hard to shift and being “stuck” here, it was always in the back of my mind was I not enough for her? Like she had a family who loved her, and she would just always complain about not being able to “leave” I never confronted her about it but it was kinda scary how obsessed she got with it and I always though it was maybe a coping mechanism for not having the life she wanted or smth, she had a lotta social anxiety n stuff so it was hard for us to go out/ for her to make friends
I have avoident personality disorder, and it sounds like she does too. Maladaptive daydreaming, for me, was a common soothing mechanism. I admittedly was hard to deal with before I got help. I don't blame my exes for leaving me, and I shouldn't have expected people to put up with my constant panic attacks, that got so bad I couldn't leave my bedroom without one. Don't get me wrong, nobody should be callous about mental health, but you're not an asshole for thinking about the impact she was having on you, and leaving.
@@calyyygrazie8 how is that not valid? Relationships are mutual. If she keeps talking about how she wants to leave and she hates her life even though the boyfriend is trying his best then how is that not valid for him to think that? You’re just toxic. Someone is suffering from the insecurity of not being good enough and you’re taking the side of the girl who wants to live in an anime world? Yeah I get why your parents dropped you as a child
hi there! just wanted to quickly say something since someone said you weren't valid. you are 100% valid in feeling like you weren't enough, i think anyone would feel that way if their partner wanted to escape them (in a sense). im sure the situation wasn't easy to be in. don't let people tell you you aren't valid, they haven't lived through your experience and have no right telling you what you are allowed to feel. i hope you're doing better now! also, it sounds like she was going through some stuff, her wanting to escape is not a reflection on your worth, i hope you know that. have a good day/night!
1000%. I'm pretty mentally ill/neurodivergent, to the point where I've actually cried before (multiple times) over not being able to live in my daydreams . . . if this had been around when I was a teenager, I think it would've fucked me up so badly; even now, over a decade past these kids, I can feel the pull of "well, what if it's real?" I dunno, part of me thinks this ia fun harmless trend like self-insert fanfics and part of me finds it kind of disturbing.
sincerely im also daydreaming a lot and lol I've believe in it and waiting to shift because I wanna make these daydreams (idk who to called it) reals (because knowing that is not real fck me up) so uhm yea (this as last month now I have no hope for it anymore) i understand these people lol.
There's a phenomenon called "Chūnibyō" or "8th grade syndrome", where an individual "so desperately want to stand out that they have convinced themselves they have hidden knowledge or secret powers". I think these shifters qualify.
as someone who got sucked into this for almost two years, its so harmful. it makes you despise your 'current' reality and chase after the possibility of a perfect reality where you can change everything. it makes our current reality seem boring and horrible and blinds u to how beautiful life is. its genuinely just for chronically online people, active imaginations and people that are desperate to escape. its really tragic and i wish it hadnt blown up like it did, ive literally developed rlly bad paranoia over shit like this now
Idk about you but ive seen many warnings from shifters that its not recommended to shift if youre mentally unstable. As a pretty mentally stable person myself i have not had any of these problems in 2 years. Its about balance, everyone now knows u shouldnt obsess too much. Shifting doesnt do those things to you, your mind does. A lot of shifters are just trying to have fun
@@Nyxlaru Even if you're mentally stable, you can still come out of the shifting community with a mental illness like so many others. Just because your mentally stable doesn't mean you're immune to the effects of everything.
@@ispent35minutestryingtocha80 unlikely, meditation doesnt give you mental illness. Obsession could be bad but thats why we people recommend not getting too obsessed
@@Nyxlaru I never said meditation gives you mental illness. I said the obsession with shifting might. And just because shifters reccomend not getting "too obsessed" doesn't mean that a sizable portion of shifters will heed the warning
@@ispent35minutestryingtocha80 well then that's not because of shifting. If people don't know their limits then honestly that's on them isnt it? Others can only give advice but to stay healthy sometimes you just have to follow it.
A healthier version of shifting is reading books, once you become an avid reader, you actually feel like you are one with the characters and when you finish the book, you have improved your vocabulary which is a plus!
imagine if this WERE real. that shit would wreck your life, wreck your family, wreck your relationships, wreck your mental health. imagine being somewhere for years and going through the agony of losing your loved ones, only to make new loved ones and then “go back to your current reality” and then go through the same agony again and idk, like, deal with not being in love with your boyfriend anymore bc you miss your hogwarts boyfriend or something lmao
yeah and what if while you’re shifting your friend tells you something important about themselves but you don’t hear it, your “clone” does and once you go back and they ask you “hey do you remember when i told you [insert something here]?” you’d just be dumbfounded bc you don’t know what it is, your “clone” does. reality shifting has a lot of missing holes in it which is why i’m skeptical..
@@MiloLinsey it’s def not real. therapy can def help it just takes a while and it’s minute changes that you don’t notice until much later and you realize you’re in a better place
@ω I'm not trying to offend you, só Im sorry if I saw anything like that, but I just want to yk understand it. I knwo I might sound mean but I always do so yeah sorry. If shifting was real, then everyone would use it. No one wants their boring life, everyone would leave the moment it was discovered. And there's no actual evidence. I mean if its really a thing then you could even save the world with it. And the whole message of shifting is really damaging for anyones mental health. It makes your real life look even more depressing, makes you distance yourself from your actual loved ones and its scary for people with serious mental health problems. (Like scizophrenia etc.)
i don’t even care about shifting, why would they be mad if they ARE lucid dreaming??? i have the most whack and upsetting dreams and if i could lucid dream that’d be swell
Right??? I've never had a lucid dream and that sounds like a pretty cool experience. And they act like they're being bullied when you tell them that but really it's in their best interest. It's not healthy to believe that you can actually escape into a fictional reality esp when you're that young
yes!! sometimes I have lucid dreams and they are just the same thing as shifting. I mean they all literally describe what lucid dreams feel like. what the hell is wrong with having lucid dreams now😭😭
Ok so, its like lucid dreaming but Lida better. You can stay there how long you want and in the real reality you'll only be sleep for about 7 hours I think. I'm an 11 year old and I want to try to explore a dr but I'm a Christian and ppl say its witch craft and I want to lucid dream but ppl say its demonic and I'm scared of sleep paralysis
@@tazurajulianseditor7389 lucid dreaming is not a supernatural occurance. It's literally a normal dream except you're aware of the fact that you're dreaming, so you can control what your brain visualises. Not demonic and not witchcraft.
As someone from ireland can i just say that listening to this is a whole new level of mental gymnastics In ireland we say “shifting” instead of “making out”
Honestly what confuses me the most are those people saying they spent multiple years bcs like After you live with someone or something for three whole years, you would prob enter a deep grieving process of losing them after coming back to our reality, and would prob need treatment to readjust to modern way of living But well at least you would bone draco
One of my best friends had to go therapy when she was little because she was confused if this reality was real or not because she shift and she learned in the therapy that the two reality are real and she still shift sometimes. She said is a awesome and magical experience, if anyone wants to do shift I'd recommend first organize your life, do therapy or go to a psychologist, meditate and rosolve your problems because before you shift you has to be in peace and in calm because in the contrary you could live what's happen to my friend or something worse
@@ravenpark3360 hate to break it to ya bud, but your friend is lying. No legitimate therapist will tell their patients unproven ideas and certainly not when science is currently opposing those ideas. Though it could be that your friend just interpreted the things that the therapist said wrong. And even if the therapist did say those things, who is he/she to determine whether alternate universes exist? Isn't that the job of physicians?
I was a kid who constantly daydreamed, read and wished I was in another world and i would have 100% believed this if I knew about it. I actually thought it could be a real thing until I did some research lol. I worry for kids like me today who are getting sucked into this, it's sad that psychosis and dissociation is being promoted and is passed off as innocent fun.
I don't know why people are so ashamed of saying they have active imaginations. I visualize meeting book characters, leaders, to imagine what meeting them would be like. You don't have to pretend to go to another reality, just admit you like self insert fanfiction.
yea lmao i feel like it'd be more understandable to say "oh i read self insert fics" rather than saying "i travelled to another reality just to bone my fave character"
THIS!! I have a really active imagination so whenever people try to explain ‘shifting’ to me it literally just sounds like dreams I’ve had. Like I’ve literally had a dream where I went to college for four years with my favorite anime character. Is that kinda weird? Yes, but I’m not gonna say I was in an alternate reality because I wasn’t. Like I literally had to study take n fail finals in a dream ☹️
My thoughts exactly lmao. Then again when I was 14 I drafted this convoluted premise for a magical alternate realm where you could hang out with fictional characters and I’m not too proud to admit I kind of started to wonder if I was onto something. I think there’s something to be said for a developmental creative stage between make-believe and becoming a storyteller, where the line between play and craft is very blurry (hence the focus on OCs with no context, role-playing, self-insert fics, etc.). Kids this age do a lot of goofy stuff in the process of forming their own identity, and while the added dimension of social media making your pupal stage super public certainly doesn’t help, most of them will outgrow this kind of expression.
@@giggles4895 these are evidence of the creative power of our brains. You didn't “shift” to another reality, your brain created a world that was detailed enough to feel real.
As someone who experiences derealization and depersonalization, ‘shifting’ is an unhealthy way to cope. It’s essentially avoiding your real life by lucid dreaming. Lucid dreaming is fun and all, but creating this belief and cultivating it with a community filled with minors can’t be healthy.
depersonalization and derealization is something I've dealt with most my life and I seriously worry about this triggering a psychotic or dissociative episode in someone.
all those tiktok stans are just sexualising the characters ALL THE TIME and its so weird considering most of them are minors almost the entire series lmao
@@tindraakerlind9748 exactly like ''im gonna shift so draco can rail me'' that is literally so weird since those characters would still have feelings in their dr and??? it really weirds me out
It’s not the Harry Potter community it’s more like the TikTok community, I found that most of them haven’t even read the books or watched any of the movies. The only character they know is Draco 🤦🏻♀️
My mother suffered abuse as a child and dissociated to a made up world to protect herself from it. She didn't start getting therapy until she was in her 30s, and she's now 49 and still has this dissociation problem occasionally. It's actually very disruptive even though the world in her head is a pleasant one.
I tried following one of the shifting methods once bc why not, and honestly? Ive never slept better than when i "tried" shifting. Literally, like a log, didn't even dream. Loved it
seems like a okay place to say this. i try to shift every now and then. not to escape or anything, just because i want to be in hogwarts learning magic with characters and stuff. i’ve read these comments and am now terrified to, thinking i’ll get mental disorders and stuff when i know it’s just in my head and is not reality. i did not know it was lucid dreaming and now im scared but i sleep so well when i try to
I think that a lot of the people who think they are shifting are either lucid dreaming or maladaptive daydreaming. I would also like to say that the shifting community is creepily positive and cult like.
@@arcadeii as someone who also lucid dreams - no it is not. In lucid dreams, you can't read, tell time, look in a mirror, etc. You can do these things when you shift. Reality checks also fail in dreams: this is not true when you shift (ie, when you shift you cant press your finger through your palm, or cause illogical stuff to happen). Also, time dilation is possible when you shift, but not when you lucid dream. You can also shift without falling asleep. And when you shift you cannot control the world or people around you, which you can do when you lucid dream. Just to name a few differences.
@@caitlinb35 I never said it was a cult, just very cult like. I understand not wanting to be in this reality, it sucks here and maybe thinking you can shift and leave is what help you get through it but also you need to be careful about who you preach too. The audience for shifting is often very young and impressionable. I understand it has religious significance to some but like with my opinion of christianity, do what you want but please don’t brainwash kids. If you are an adult or near adult then do what you want and choose what you believe but leave kids alone, they need to be given a chance to grow and decide for themselves without being given wild promises and constant assurance that you are right.
Yeah I was actually in that phase like a year ago glad I'm out of that, because I never actually shift or anything I just sleep so Im just convince that it's fake or something
Shifting is technically real in the form of dissociation and lucid dreaming which in itself isn’t unhealthy, but what IS unhealthy is encouraging kids to hate their reality and want to escape from it every night, and treating it like some crazy religious experience.
You can't really process time when you're lucid dreaming. I remember a lucid dream of mine where I kept waking up in a dream over and over again. It felt like I had been dreaming for months. Is it cool to be able to script your dreams? Yes. Are they shifting realities? Probably not.
yes exactly! when you shift, time is linear, which is a huge difference between shifting and lucid dreaming and the fact that time progresses linearly is actually another big reason why it feels so real When you're dreaming/in a lucid dream you know that you're in a dream, but when you shift everything will feel real and you will immediately know it's actually really jarring for the first time literally fucking waking up somewhere else
I still don’t get how people script their dreams😭 i’ve had a lucid dream many times, but they’re never scripted. I think this is maladaptive daydreaming for these people who believe they’ve actually shifted. I’d love to script my dreams so I wouldn’t have nightmares anymore
That comment brought a tear to my eye. I can only hope that somehow, in some way, things will get better for you in this world. I wish you all the best. ❤️
see I would shift into a world where only the funny and actually useful videos exist, no charlie no "hype" just things that make me happy or are interesting.
Maybe that's bc you're watching a tiny clip of what ppl have to say that was put together by someone who, from the beginning, was convinced they're all delusional, and not actually asking anyone in the community? Also: reality checks that fail in dreams (e.g. counting your fingers, pinching your nose and trying to breathe) have the same outcome as in your waking life (e.g. your fingers look like they always do, you can't breathe through a pinched nose) Time also moves normally, just like when you're awake, unlike in dreams Just 2 quick examples
the nature of humanity is that every few years someone reinvents metaphysical philosophy (if you leave out the shifting and hogwarts crap) i mean it's ok to think deeper about our existence and stuff but that doesn't mean you have to become delusional.
I mean it's not exactly delusional. I've been looking into witchcraft lately (wait for it) and I was surprised to realize that it turns out it's always the same recycled actually proven phenomenon in psychology but with different terms. Shifting, Dissociating, Depersonalizing, Astral Projecting, Daydreaming, Hypnosis. That's kind of all the same thing but with different names and method. There's validity to it in the sense that it's probably them just putting themselves under hypnosis and dissociating themselves into a specific fantasy they have, it would feel completely real to them especially if they use full hypnosis rather than semi-hypnosis and if it feels real it wouldn't be actually strange to imagine that the experience they went through during that time actually impacted them as a person and gave them growth especially if they did for a really long time. They just lack the self-awareness to realize that it's an easily explainable occurrence that goes further than "Alternate Realities are real and Hogwarts actually exist and we can travel through portals". But they're mostly young. I was convinced for a super long time that my family lied to me and my mom wasn't my biological mother but somehow my dad was my bio dad and I couldn't donate my blood or everyone will know. Kids make weird shit up, they'll either move on from it and class it as a "yikes that was cringey" thing or they'll actually do more research and transform it into a responsible thing. It can be dangerous tho and it's concerning that they're doing it probably without knowing the risks (creating psychotic episodes, a dissociative identity disorder, paranoia) since it's supposedly a "new practice".
I don't actually think the magical world has restraining orders or anything like that, and I doubt he'd know about the magical equivalent -- as for whether or not he'd use it... he'd probably be desperate enough at that point in time. Although maybe the shifters will just include something about no restraining orders in their new scripts.
I’d love to see two “Shifters” try to shift into the same universe and have a conversation, without scripting together or consulting each other beforehand, other than where you’re going to “shift” to. If you can go anywhere, surely you can have a conversation with your bestie? Then both of you can remember what the other said, right? /s
i was wondering the same thing. like, these people are trying to shift to the same universe. you’d think they’d be running into fellow shifters if they’re actually doing what they say they’re doing.
@@devil-byte hey im a shifter, dont mean to be attacked but! we arent shifting to the same reality :D, we are shifting to a reality where we are in that reality, (already existing), while others who shift are shifting to realities where they are in that reality, (already existing). please if u have questions, ask them! its rlly upsetting when people think we're crazy and dont bother to hear us explain :(
I recently left the community after coming to the realisation that it really isn't real, and its definitely some form of disassociation. I'm glad I got out before things got too serious. I remember feeling really detached from life and thinking, hold on this isn't normal. I also want to highlight that the community is incredibly toxic - they have this thing called "respawning" which is essentially ending your life in this reality and you'll wake up in your "desired reality". the fact that this is encouraged to impressionable young minds is quite frankly disgusting. Young children are literally going to commit suicide because they believe that they will wake up in their fave place. It's really sad and needs to stop.
Same its sad that all this kids are trying there hardest to get away from there lives promising to go to there favorite show trying every night its sad becuase ive done that and it made me super sad and lonely waiting to meet my favorite charaters I'm getting better tho
@Captain Levi i read more into it the other day and apparently it's not suicide. i think that is a way that you can "respawn" but there are other ways. i'm not really sure how and i don't really care but it's essentially "cutting ties with your current reality," which is still fucked up. encouraging kids to completely reject this reality will lead to serious mental health problems.
The first “shifting” method sounds a lot like methods used to teach yourself to lucid dream. If you’re trying to have a lucid dream, it’s common to do similar meditations before sleep (picturing what you want to see in your dream as you’re falling asleep, etc.) Honestly shifting literally just seems like a form of lucid dreaming to me, except these people seem to believe they’re not actually dreaming, whereas usually the point of lucid dreaming is that you know it’s a dream.
If they were lucid dreaming, I don’t get how they’d be able to create a script in their mind and have it perfectly display how they want it to be. is it even possible to have that much control while dreaming?
i don’t wanna poke fun at em cuz they’re teenagers who are obviously in a dark place if they’re this desperate to escape reality but this is so.. much work 😭 just write a fanfic about yourself and whoever you want
They aren’t in a dark place these teens except special cases haven’t experienced real trauma, sure you might get some bully’s but there’s always bullies they aren’t getting drafted for war most of them have a really healthy life they just think they are so deprived it’s saddening
@@Ckrost most of these people have actually gone through alot of shit all of my friends who believe in shifting have really horrible lives so not really
Just wanted to add my two cents: I suffered from sleep paralysis, night terrors, and just chronically have nightmares that are too vivid (for most of my life). Monitoring my diet before bed did nothing. Lucid dreaming once a blue moon gives me peace. When I started therapy, we started to script my dreams beforehand to trigger lucid dreaming and make sure I don’t have a nightmare or rewrite a reoccurring nightmare. A bit after that I came across shifting on tiktok. It’s essentially the same thing. Our perceptions in dreams can become blurred at times, our brains are freaky. Time perception in dreams can make it feel like days or months go by. Dreams are manifestations of our subconscious, as far as we know. Scripting is a legit therapy practice, HOWEVER I do not like how tiktok has framed this as some superpower and transportation method, and that CIA document has no correlation/causation to these experiences.
@@iulia-bn3gx I don't know about the original comment but I've had lucid dreams for most of my life and yes sometimes it can feel like they last for days, I think the longest one I had lasted a couple of weeks not a full month but almost there, in my experience you don't "live" the whole days only the most important parts and because while we are dreaming our sense of reality is kind of disoriented you interpret that as the full day passing. Like if you know for a fact that something is supposed to happen in three days within your dream and you get to that point you just assumed it's been three days
@@iulia-bn3gx TW DEATH/SUICIDE When I used to basically only have lucid dreams due to trauma it would feel like the dream was lasting weeks upon weeks and I couldn’t escape without essentially killing myself because our brain can’t interpret that feeling. I could be in constant agony and have the worst pain mentally and physically but I knew it was a dream and I knew the way to escape was the well do what my brain hasn’t experienced fully. I couldn’t literally go to sleep in my dream and wake up and still be in the same dream, it was trippy. Ofc I wasn’t actually asleep in my dream bc all of it is an altered sense of reality that your brain is making up. It’s scary and I was only able to get out of my dreams in other ways when I scripted them with the help of my therapist. Mine are gone now for the most part but if you’re going through something “shifting” isn’t something you want to mess without a mental help provider to plan it out so you can have control of your dreams and not make decisions that can leave you feeling worse in reality.
I have never lucid dreamed but i have heard that u cant feel anything in it and it doesnt feel real or look real if you get what I’m saying. When shifting u can feel things and it feels real. Also with the days thing u cant be in a dream for months tho can you? (I’m not saying you can’t because i dont rlly know anything abt lucid dreaming) but i’m trying to lucid dream but also trying to shift because how is there not a multiverse. Space is endless and shifting doesnt happen inside of our heads. Idk if what i’m saying makes any sense but anyways
@@xaidil8459 yeah but when u are shifting you know its not a dream because its so real yk. And also people are shifting for many months im pretty sure u can’t dream that
it’s honestly wild because i struggle with anxiety and i remember seeing that exact video about how we’re all not real and it MESSED me up😭 might sound dramatic but anxiety is fucked up. it’s so beyond me that some creators have brainwashed so many minors in to believing this.
No you're right. I watched Generation Loss, an indie psychological horrorshow about the protagonist only being a character in a liveshow for the greater masses to control and them trying to break out of it, and what leads me to my point is the timeloop theory. That once the liveshow inside this liveshow ends, it just starts over the same as before. That for me created a lot of existential dread that I ignored as I got ready for bed. I finished this show thinking I totally wasn't impacted, and a short night's sleep later I wake up, and I start my day with derealisation that soon became a long and extreme existential anxiety attack. My mom still lives under the belief that I'm a perfectly normal child and that there's nothing to treat or pay extra mind to
You think if this were real people would rather shift into a universe where they’re mega fucking rich or one where a loved one is still alive, but sure I guess banging Draco Malfoy is..... an option 😐
not everyone wants to get railed by draco, the majority of us (including me) just want to finally feel at home and be friends with their comfort characters and experience magic and just be who they wanna be. i want to have fun with the golden trio and be best friends with luna and neville and have fun doing magic and going on adventures, and as much as i am a draco simp (and have been since 3rd grade when i started investing in the series), that’s not what i’m shifting for. i’m shifting to be where i’ve wanted to be since i was 8 and experience magic
I really don’t get it. Harry Potter has been my number one thing that I consider myself a fan of for the past 15 years. When I was a kid, people hated Malfoy. As we got older we saw that he was somewhat redeemable. But none of my friends fantasise about boning him. Because he’s a child. Like, younger teenagers and kids that crush on Malfoy, that’s fine. But like, seeing these people aged 18 to around 23 talking about Draco in that way... c’mon. It’s messed up.
i think it would be interesting to play with the limits of them. like go into a reality with magic and see how badly you can mess stuff up with magical powers. maybe crash the universe a little with your metaphysical bug testing.
honestly sounded like my mental breakdown with my best friend every month. one time i said medications were controlling us because we take them and then we do things, i said something like that
I do want to point out that trauma isn’t always going off to war. A pandemic, economic instability, and the ice caps melting around us can certainly traumatize the kids spending their formative years in a world that hasn’t given them hope for a viable future. This “shifting” is extremely concerning and not entirely surprising.
Yeah I 100% agree. WAY too little comments about this. Trauma isn’t just war. Things that have a lasting negative effect on You are trauma. PTSD has a certain set of symptoms. If You have them, it doesn’t matter if the situation “wasn’t that bad” - it evidently was bad ENOUGH to cause lasting trauma! Our young generations ARE severely traumatised. Telling them they’re not will not make them less traumatised lol I’m genuinely not surprised that “shifting” is so incredibly popular - it’s like THE perfect and most realistic way of using escapism to cope! Invalidating people’s feelings and shitting on their trauma won’t make them any better. In fact, it will almost certainly make them worse.
@@alexanderendrizzi462 fr!!! covid trauma is very very real and the idea that the only place trauma can come from is large-scale bloodshed is a good way to invalidate a lot of people's experiences real quick
I'm pretty sure shifting is just a unhealthy coping mechanism, we saw a large growth in shifting during the pandemic and this is because people are lonely and depressed. Even if shifting is real, it's not healthy. You should look for happiness in your own reality, not in someone elses.
@@eden9536 I tried to shift once but realized that my own mental safety was at risk. I think others need to consider the concesquences of their actions beyond "I might be mentally tired later." I'm glad you were able to see that! 😊
@@GeraldTheLlama i tried for months and it was so hard to leave the community but i think it was the lack of documents and proof (just testimonies of ppl) so this is why i leave it and tried lucid dreaming instead
@@eden9536 okay i’m still so confused about it all- like does a clone actually take over your body? can someone really be in hogwarts or wherever for three years? i’ve had friends talking about doing it, writing scripts etc, but i still don’t get it
@@Clara-ze9hu So basically they believe about travel with your mind into alternatives reality. There is not really proof about they said that CIA make experience about it BUT it’s not about travel through different realities. Also I thinks it’s meaningless that we can travel into fantasy universe first because they said that they are real person so not fictionals and you need to “come back home” and how they can be real when it’s J.K Rowling that create them, so you are telling me you saw Tom felton interpreted Malfoy ? 😭 it’s also applies for anime etc
Funny how in their "shifts" they are always magical, always happen to be besties with the main characters, and get to do what they want. It'd be more believable if they shifted into a Potterverse McDonald's worker who served Harry, Ron, and Hermione one time, but otherwise lived a mundane life.
"shifting" is just writing Mary Sue fanfiction with more steps. (or maybe less steps cause you're not even writing it down.. you're just imagining it while half asleep..)
Bahaha I was thinking this. Like "the Harry Potter universe actually exists" but also you can change the time to whenever you want and be whoever you want to be and look however you want to be. They always say like "The difference between a lucid dream and shifting is that in shifting you can't change things." Isn't that exactly what scripting is? If the Harry Potter reality is a real, static, unchanging reality like they say it is, Draco Malfoy should be hating all those girls guts and ignoring them hardcore and also be 50 and married... Like I don't get it. You shift into a different reality that exists but it can be whatever you want. Either they are literally inventing a reality out of their own imagination and brain power, or there is a reality for every single miniscule difference and infinite realities in which Draco was never born??
@@r3yd3y1 So "different personalized realities"? Anyone who believes that is delusional. Everyone going to "Different personalized lies" would be accurate though The thing about reality is that it's reality. Stuff that happens in reality actually happens. "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away."
LIKE HE’S JUST NOT IN ANY WAY APPEALING?? like even if ur into the whole sadism thing like...malfoy isn’t even good at it...he constantly gets dunked on
i have a friend who was broken up with because their girlfriend was shifting to harry potter and was dating harry potter's dad. when they said they were uncomfortable with it, their girlfriend chose james potter over them and broke up with them
he says he hasn’t read harry potter to hide the fact that he is constantly cosplaying the main character
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my exact though XD
i kept telling the screen "you are a wizard, nicky!"
Glasses = Harry Potter
Did you come up with that one by yourself or did someone help you?
damn malfoy must be absolutely exhausted since everyone who shifted to hogwarts just boned him and left
oh my god i didn’t even think of that and i am *wheezing*
No wonder malfoy is so confident. Harry trynna show him up, but draco literally boning interdimensional e-girls every day.
@@blacklightredlight2945 OMFG I CHOKEDD
@@blacklightredlight2945 I’M WHEEZING
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just shifted into my 10th-grade math class to pretend I didn't fail the final
ill shift into a world where you get the proper tutoring to pass that final!
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Can you imagine being someone who is schizophrenic or in someway struggles with delusions and then hearing millions of people on the Internet tell you that you are not real and that you can escape to other realities? seriously dangerous rhetoric
Yeah I go through delusional episodes that are exactly that, and honestly I have to stay away from tik tok for that reason. I watch the videos my friends send me and seek out absolutely nothing on my own. My brain tells me I’m living in a simulation where the only escape is death just fine on its own; I don’t need a fifteen-year-old babbling nonsense in an attempt to confirm it lmao
I talked with some who was schizophrenic and bad episodes, somebody convinced them that they should "shift" so it could comfort them but it made their delusions worst.
schizophrenic people dont listen to other people, they only put faith and thought into their own thoughts and ideas, not being able to reason with them also means you cant really troll them either, they sometimes take inspiration from the world, connecting 1 idea to another, but you cant really "direct" them towards any idea
Amen.
This is a very well made video too. Funny and still sensitive to those with real disabilities.
This is just kids playing pretend. Man, I'm really glad I didn't have a phone when I was in my childhood 😅 - I was embarrassing! I used to think if I held on tight to an umbrella, that I would safely float down from anything like Kirby. Lmao.
The adults doing it.. need a reality smack. Or to just find other adults to do it with. Telling kids their imaginations are 100% real is dangerous.
@Lord Avalon there’s big difference between communing with the natural/spiritual world and saying you went to the world of harry potter
This just feels like tiktok is treating self-insert fanfics as a religious experience.
Underrated comment right here
Fr tho
First thing I thought
Nailed it!
As they should!
my favorite screenshot from one of these tik toks is “DO NOT shift into the clifford universe. emily is VERY racist
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What the fuck lmao
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um I'd wanna go there just to tell this Emily character off
@@alitzel2003 So how'd it go?
the fact that all these stories are just basically self insert fanfics is so funny.
Ikr lmao. Idk what's more sad, people creating these fanfictions or children who actually believe in this shifting shit and these stories
@Mute yyeeesss
@@vainetuxx Fanfiction isn’t that bad, but when they believe in that “reality” it’s a problem
@@minajones8341yes, it is bad when people confuse their desired reality with this one, but there’s nothing wrong with the shifting community. creators like this are bringing the attention to shifting ( mainly tiktoks fault ) and it’s bringing a ton of hate into this community of mainly minors. all im saying is for you not to put reality in quotation marks, because that can be offensive to shifters. you wouldn’t put other words in quote marks unless you’re trying to offend them, not always but most of the time. so could you and everybody else just leave the shifting community alone, and if you’re going to pull out the “get a therapist” or “but it’s a mental disorder” card, then you can just shut up. im not talking about the people who actually do need help, im talking about the shifters in general. so please be a little more respectful to the shifting community.
@@avaamcnicol or maybe just get a therapist.
I once had a dream where i was eating a person’s face in a dark, damp room and i woke up in paralysis. I commented it on one of those shift toks (for some reason) and everybody was telling me i had actually killed a real person. I can not with this generation
I once had a dream about a possessed lightning mcqueen action figure. I had no weapons so I had to pry open the hood and tear apart his organs with my bare hands to make sure he wouldn’t come back. Wonder what they’d think of that one 😅
@@ajknight8640 his organs?😭 That sounds both funny and terrifying
@@joemps It’s funny now but at the time, waking up in the middle of the night confused and terrified… definitely won’t forget that feeling 😭
@@ajknight8640 you may want a scre driver for that
Did you feel it actually? You "shifted" if you did (shifting is just an immersive dream)
Gen Z had a real chance to be less weird about Harry Potter than Millennials and they fucked it up.
ik we really did, I'm so glad i never had a full on harry potter phase. I had a little one but not that much.
To be fair most of these people arent hardcore fans and only know draco and think he is attractive in the movies
@@robot7485 they believe they are travelling to alternate realities to bone draco. Sounds pretty hardcore to me
@@alllies5271 yes that's true but not in a hardcore-fan kind of way, more in a going mental because a actor is attractive kind of way, you know what I mean?
as a gen z person..... ye
imagine living 3 whole years in one world, growing, changing, learning, maturing - and then coming back to this one and still being fifteen. i'd be livid
Word of advice: avoid stepping into magic wardrobes. 😬
good thing it's not possible
Have you seen Star vs the Forces of Evil? Marco, the main dude character, does pretty much that for real, except he became a badass warrior until he got to his 30s and then he had to go back to being a teenager again.
It would be the equivalent of making a lot of progress in a game for three hours, only to lose and then having to go back to the very beginning because you forgot to save in-between.
Also the implication that someone comes back to their life only to learn a stranger robbed them of three years is horrifying
I saw one tiktok where this girl abused Draco Malfoy and accidentally killed him and the entire comment section accused her of murder
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Jesus Christ I worry about the youth of today.
@@TaurusWitch29 we’re pretty much doomed tbh
@@gabrielascott6879 deep ass thoughts for a Saturday evening
I actually saw a TikTok where a girl shifted to a reality to MURDER people… everyone in the comments called her a murderer… some even said she actually had to go to jail in THIS reality because she murdered “real” people… because apparently in the shifting community, every single person is real, even the ones in other realities. So they said she was a terrible person for killing “real” people with “real” feelings
This shit is honestly terrifying to me. As a schizophrenic with delusions that often include being forced into another reality (sometimes to the point of losing complete touch with reality and missing weeks or months of real time), the idea that people are just going around with all this "it's a simulation" stuff or "I spent 3 years at Hogwarts".. that's so scary. And it really can be dangerous for people like me who already struggle so much with staying in touch with reality, having people outside of our head suggest we aren't real or that reality is practically collapsing all around as at any given point can absolutely increase our suffering.
Take more quetiapine
If it puts your mind at ease (somewhat) - shifting is, most definitely, just lucid dreaming and nothing more. Lucid dreaming is real and it's also pretty awesome, but all of these people are massively exaggerating their experiences (or just lying entirely to fit in). It also takes quite a lot of practice to do it with any amount of consistancy or stability (the vast majority of people will just wake up the instant they start lucid dreaming due to the excitement of it working, which takes a lot of time/patience to get past). So, long story short, Gen Z discovered lucid dreaming, gave it a new name, and massively exaggerated their experiences with it.
@@TheSMR1969Blud can’t even spell it right. ☠️
@@sagelouisee you still have time to delete this comment before you make yourself look like a fool
So you say you're schizophrenic, and I am a reality shifter. Just to clearify, reality shifters don't say that we live in a simulations, that's a theory, but has NOTHING to do with reality shifters. Real shifters know that's not true, no, they believe we live in realitites, like dimensions. And that's nothing like simulations. And they do not say that we, people are not real, that's absurd. And we do not say that our reality is collapsing around us, I wonder who told you that, because they aren't shifters. I don't know how it is for a schizophrenic person to know about reality shifting but I'm a person with mental health issues and It totally helped me and saved my life. It's fine If you don't believe in it, but don't put words in mouths of real shifters
The worst part of all of this is that these kids think they can go to a world where they have magic and are as powerful as they want. They instead choose to screw Draco Malfoy....
I just want to point out that not everyone is shifting for that purpose (you probably already knew that but I just wanted to point it out) me for example I'm shifting so I can escape everything I'm dealing with, and I go somewhere that I belong and somewhere where I'm free from everything and get to see my comfort character. Of course some people are shifting so they can sleep with draco but there's also people like me who are shifting for another reason
@@aubreewithaextrae thisss not everyone wants to get railed some people just want to have fun-
Not all of them do. I don't like Draco, and I'm just going to live there, lol. I want to go to Hogwarts, try different magical jobs, be a part of the Order, try new things.
I have in fact shifted before, just not to a DR. And believe me, I could not tell it was not my CR. I mean, I saw a few things were different, but I made up excuses for why it was that way, as I am lazy af and did not want to check. It was as real as this reality, I swear. Lucid dreaming cannot do that. I mean, I watch about 50+ TH-cam videos a day, and so did I in that parallel CR, I'd be a fucking genius to perfectly make up TH-cam videos.
@@meropedurwood5514 yeah, people get the idea that it's fake and just lucid dreaming but its not lucid dreaming
lucid dreaming you really don't have control over the dream but shifting you have complete control over. Yes, you don't have to script nor listen tiktok about this. Infact you can leave it all up to the universe if you'd like but
it's not fake. As a person who has known about this for a long time, it really isn't lucid dreaming nor is it fake.
@@thespectrumshock269 I agree with you, but I think you switched the definitions of shifting and lucid dreaming. When you shift, you cannot control your surroundings, you're not God. You are in a different reality, and unless you have the lifa-app or a lifa-journal, you cannot change that reality. In a lucid dream you have control, you can make things appear and disappear.
Imagine they shift to Hogwarts and try to talk to Malfoy and he just calls them a filthy mudblood
LMAO that would be funny
These people would probably enjoy it
Boi read a fanfic they like it
@@elizaleorowe8384 If someone is so desperate to escape the reality, probably they wouldnt care in getting hurt
I would assume they would be purebloods in their supposed ideal reality. Nevermind the fact that Draco would be an adult by the time they go to Hogwarts.
the theory about J.K Rowling writing HP after shifting is like saying authors can't possibly have _imagination_
Fr
It also just doesn't make sense, since they say you have to write a script and know everything about what you 'shift' into so J.K would literally have to write it beforehand either way
aw 🥺🥺 someone doesnt like when people make silly theories about their beliefs and favorite books 🥺🥺 r u the same person who says something racist and go people can't even joke anymore 🥺🥺
@@alliumlovers6920 what....
@@redstoney6234 what...
I had a huge shifting phase a few years back when I was like 11 or 12, it was horrible. I spent so long making up scenarios that I genuinely stopped talking to my friends. I've now realized that it was just another form of escapism from my depression. I think this shit is EXTREMELY harmful to people who struggle with mental illnesses.
Thats why shifters dont recommend it to mentally unstable people
What have you got to be depressed about?
@@TheSMR1969 idk you spamming comments and saying teenagers their struggles aren't serious sounds very depressing
You existing babes
I am mentally unstable, but not in that way and a few of my friends are in the shifting community so I just got a little bit closer to them for about two weeks and then everything went back to normal and I always did things and took like an hour to script at night which I still do if I’m going to shift, which is about three or four times a month(I am depressed, but my escapism is Minecraft and that’s a lot more healthy because all my friends play Minecraft so the most you’ll get is a rant about Pandoras vault)
Ya know there is an ironic quote by Dumbledore that fits here. "It doesn't do to dwell on dreams and forget to live"
I mean, didn't he also say "just because it's in your head doesn't mean it's not real"? 😅
well, you know…
“of course it is in your head, harry.. but why on earth should that mean it is not real?”
@@icecreamcake6238 take your meds
@@icecreamcake6238 So if I imagine a unicorn, that means unicorns are real???
(ﾉ´ヮ´)ﾉ*:･ﾟ✧
@@icecreamcake6238 yes but a lot of shifters claim they're traveling to an independent reality that exists outside of their head which is... I think they just haven't experienced vivid or lucid dreams before and so when they come to awareness in a dream they think it's shifting
Why do people always assume they if they land in another reality they would be main characters or connected to the main characters? Imagine if shifting was real and you just become one of the crushed under a building that Superman just punched
this made me laugh a lot thanks
My boy Clark Kent would never let that happen, he's too kind to let harm come unto anyone.
they wanna be y/n so bad 😩
LMAO
This made me cackle. Also, considering Draco hates muggles, we all know they’re being snobbed.
They say it’s not dreaming cause it feels so real. I had a dream last night where I killed fuckin Kermit the frog. I woke up with tears streaming down my face. I thought it was the evil frog. I’m still sad
@@Ariana-vr9tg :V
I had a dream I was eating ice cream. Then my alarm went off. I tried to continue eating my ice cream after I woke up, saying something like, “one second, I gotta do this”
When I realized it was a dream, I just kinda sat there like, _did I actually just try to eat ice cream that didn’t exist?_
@@dreamwish286 xD I once tried to take a book from the shelf in my dream but for some reason I couldn't even lift it, when I woke up I realized I was pulling my pillow :"D
i had a dream harry styles came to my room for my birthday and signed all of my stuff and hung out with me. i thought it as so real and i woke up so sad because i swore it was real lol but it was just a dream
@@dreamwish286 I once woke up sitting up in bed holding up my arm as if I was talking on the phone and tried to continue my conversation into the waking world lmao
As a person who daydreams often, I can say that imagining meeting your favorite characters isn’t automatically a bad thing. The problem comes when you begin to convince yourself that it’s real, if you keep pretending that these people and places are real you will get sick mentally. My daydreams aren’t the healthiest, but I’m seeing a therapist and actively seeking help to get through my past trauma. Over the last year my daydreams have become less important to my daily life and I’m living happy and in the moment. Shifting isn’t real and it isn’t healthy
I daydream too! I don't really think shifting is real but I still enjoy thinking about a wholesome story with characters that I like. I usually do it before sleeping, it gets me really relaxed.
Admit it you couldn’t shift…
@@ryangodinez331 you’re right I couldn’t, because I’m not delusional
as a maladiptive daydreamer, i can say that daydreaming is okay and escapism is fine UPTO AN EXTENT. if it starts bothering your real life then thats where the issue comes in. also these tiktokers trying to convince kids that shifting is real need serious help lmao theyre basically romanticizing unhealthy lifestyle habits
@@devidocs this. Saying imagining yourself in a story is a bad thing is not right. There is a time and place for escapism. But as soon as real life suffers because of it or one thinks it is real etc. Then it becomes a problem
I read a comment on shift-tok once, some kid wrote that she really have to learn how to shift soon, she didn't have much time because her aunt is dying on cancer and she needs to shift to a reality where they have cure for cancer. And some other person was like "yea, you can do it, that's a great idea", I got so mad I uninstalled the app
that’s insane, i can’t believe it’s gotten that far
i don’t have tiktok and i’m glad i don’t for this type of thing
To be fair, that person was probably grieving and they didn’t know what else they could do. The person who said it was a good idea was probably also a child. I’m not saying it’s right, but they didn’t know any better and had nowhere else to turn to.
yo what the fuck
wtf are these kids on? I need that.
“I can go to a reality where everything I want to happen happens and I get to control the plot/characters” Like ok Wanda Maximoff
Watching WandaVision really hit home to when I believed in shifting because I was desperate to leave my unsatisfying life ☠️☠️☠️
Me: crying and standing in one place when they shift away and forget to think about me
best comment.
@@t4marrra how's middle school treating you?
bahaha I just realized that 😳😳
This genuinely sounds like some sort of trauma response...
I was thinking the same thing. when I went thru a traumatic event I slept for days and says so I could live in my dreams for about half a year. it's not healthy
@@thekittykatie honestly, I could only lucid dream going through the most traumatic periods of my life... are these kids okay???
@@tamsynfox idk i just wish for them to find health and happiness. spending too much time online is inevitable because of the pandemic but its good to get a break sometimes 💜
for a lot of people it probably is
@@thekittykatie couldn't agree more
in my day we would make fanfictions if we had a crush on a character lol.
ok?
LMAO back in my day👵🏻
@@sage1091WHY ARE YALL LAUGHING AT ME AND NOT THE PEOPLE IMAGINING THEMSELVES IN DIFFERENT UNIVERSES
@@ceylamb because its real and im laughing at you for this
@@forget.real.life. So...... Can i have your clone then.... Your kidneys would fetch me a good price for a month
I think that nobody talks enough about the fact that when you "shift”, you create the possibility that you will start hating your reality. I know this girl on TikTok who constantly posts TikToks where she is crying about waking up from her desire reality, shows how she changes her physical appearance because she doesn’t like her real body, doesn’t make friends because she says the only friends she needs are the ones from hogwarts, etc. And it’s really sad how much these people are desperate to scape this world. So, even if you are a Harry Potter fan and you would like to meet your confort characters, it’s better to start working on this reality, because it’s the only one that counts.
what is the name of the girl on tiktok?
Bold of u to consider teenagers dont hate reality even without "shifting"
@@agstinacueva1673 I never said teenagers don’t hate their realities even without “shifting” bro. I’m literally one of those persons.
Jokes on you I'm not a shifter and I already hate my reality and would do anything to go somewhere else. I just can't force myself to believe in things with no evidence
@@nabs3772 I’d prefiere to not mention any names, sorry bestie.
When I first saw a shifting TIkTok I googled what "shifting" meant because I didn't understand what was going on and found an article where they spoke to a therapist about it. She claimed that there was nothing inherently mentally unhealthy or harmful about shifting, unless the idea of "consensual reality" is being challenged (i.e. they no longer know what is and isn't real as agreed upon by society). What I don't think a lot of older people or mental health professionals are understanding is how seriously some kids seem to be taking this and that rejecting the currently agreed upon version of reality is almost necessary to being a part of the shifting community. Mental health experts say that shifting is in essence deep meditation, but shifters insist it is an actual part of our real existence, not just inside their heads. That is a rejection of the consensus reality and it is NOT HEALTHY.
yeah i think that's a really good point, and it's just so worrying that it's the unhealthy mindset that seems to consume most of the shifting side of tiktok, and a lot of the audience that get stuck in that rabbithole are only minors )):
@@inactive5924 there's no "agreed upon version of reality" there's just one factual reality where harry potter is a work of fiction
Did she talk at all about whether it has a negative effect on your life and your ability to handle the basic aspects of living in society?? If it is interfering with you getting and keeping a job, keeping up with your regular bills and chores, maintaining friendships, and stuff like that, then it is definetely unhealthy, and I would be surprised if she didn't talk about that.
For me, the issue with this all is that people are advertising shifting as something that everyone needs to try, and as a way to live your fantasy and escape this reality. You might as well be advertising drugs at that point... sure, shifting may not be physically dangerous like drugs, or cause physical withdrawal symptoms like drugs, but it is just as capable of making people hopelessly addicted to it. If you give some the ability to live in a perfect, fantasy world, then there is a really good chance they will choose to live there instead of here, especially if they believe that world is just as real is this one. That is seriously unhealthy. Sure, if you are using it to escape trauma I get it, but there are still things in this reality that are worth sticking around for. If you keep shifting away into another world, dedicating yourself to that reality more and more, until it becomes more important than this one, who knows what amazing things here that you could end up missing out on. What if the pain from this reality would have ended up starting you on an amazing journey of self discovery and love and personal success, but you never get to experience it because you kept choosing the other reality?? Getting all your fantasies fulfilled sounds amazing, but at a certain point, I don't think it would be very meaningful. If everything goes the way you want, and you specifically go to a world where it is automatically great for you, what exactly has been achieved? There would be no struggle, nothing to overcome, no adversity to rise above. I just can't help but think that succeeding in our world where pain and suffering exists would be so much more meaningful than succeeding in a world where you were meant to succeed from the start, you know? I just hope people don't waste away their lives in a fantasy world, never actually sticking around in this one long enough to give it a shot. Sometimes you may end up spending years struggling, but what if it ends up being worth it in the end? What if you end up achieving your dreams despite all the pain and suffering?? Would it be worth throwing that life away for a fantasy life where everything always goes right? I don't think it would.
Also sleep paralysis and/or psychosis
exactly it wouldn't be a problem if they didn't think it was real
“Shifting” sounds a lot like plain old disassociating or derealization. It happens to a lot of people who have depression because they’re essentially trying to escape reality.
Lmao I was going to say!
I was a suuuuuuuper depressed 13year old "shifting" in my dreams realities for what felt like weeks at a time. I even got married once 😰
YEP LOL .
Yeah that's why so many people being like "haha gen z cringe" feels very wrong to me, these people seem to suffer from mental health problems and just laughing at that feels wrong
I thought so too
exactly I have definitely done this but it was involuntary and definitely not any of the things they're saying
I had a shifting phase.
It went on for about a year and a half, so I was like 13/14. I was UNHEALTHILY obsessed with anime, and I'd try and shift every night to a different storyline where all the things I hated about myself were erased or improved. This was also during the lockdown which made it even worse.
I listened to those 'shifting subliminals' while I was doing schoolwork. They triggered severe dissociation and I would listen to them for hours on end, believing that the dissociation was helping me shift.
In the shifting community, many big creators talk a lot about how 'if you are shifting to escape, the universe will stop you', but the entire idea of shifting is based on escapism and dissociation. That year and a half that I was trying to shift, I had really bad intrusive thoughts and was dissociating at random points in my daily life. I'm very lucky to not struggle with those things much anymore but I still come across them on occasion.
Shifting is unhealthy. Don't get into it, the consequences could be irreversible.
- ming
this was literally me as well
I haven’t ever tried to shift because I didn’t even know about it until recently, but I did have some nights when I was younger when I imagined myself getting isekaied into an anime universe and interacting with the characters there before going to sleep, so this kind of resonates with me.
BAHHAhhHAHHAHA u didnt shift thats why u said its unhealty and fake
@@randomthings7046 Lmao here they come
@@queertherapy4919 cry abt it
All of the people who say things like “JK Rowling must have shifted to come up with all of this” piss me off on so many levels. Like first of all-it’s just wizards guys. it’s just wizards with some latin. it is really not the most creative thing ever. secondly-it has the same energy as people saying “wow did you make that while on drugs???” like things like that annoy me so much. just because you’re not creative doesn’t mean people can’t be.
It feels like a micro aggression
also there's a really interesting video about how the magical kid going to school and escaping his shitty reality was an incredibly overdone trope even before the HP books came out
Also wizards and witches aren't even the same thing and don't have any connection to the latin or magic she uses in her books
Fr though, whenever someone makes a trippy looking music video or sings a song with psychedelic rock elememts it's always 'Did they make this on drugs?'
goD Thank you for the point abt creativity!! Like u dont need to go to a different reality to think of cool shit jfc that part pissed me off so much
The one about the girl warning people not to shift into the Clifford the Big Red Dog world because it turns out Emily Elizabeth is racist... bro 😭😭
Ummmm ???
Nah bro it was homophobia
SO FUCKING FUNNNYYYY
Draco is totally fine though
Don’t shift into the Peppa Pig world. Heard peppa is a cannibal
There are kids saying shit like "We are going home", or "I hope I never come back to this reality", and it's honestly concerning lmao.
Ye no, we don't rly like it here 🙂❤
@@suvajajeyanand8272 Yeah, maybe get some help instead of relying on something that may not even be real. Also if it was real a lot of the world's problems like cancer would be fixed by now because we would have the answers to the universe, but guess what, we don't. Sorry to say that.
@@xaviersprister5462 well you said that just while inwas in the middle of a meltdown cus I love someone who isn't even real :) ye, no, imma seek therapy 👍🏽
See I think its weird too, I just try to attempt shifting for shits and giggles, I've never had an experience like it before so if it does happen it would be cool
@@suvajajeyanand8272 that's okay, I am a maladaptive daydreamer and I love people who aren't even real, I just create comfort characters for quick relief out of this reality
The discussion about this always reminds me of Leonardo DiCaprio’s wife in Inception, who essentially lived in a dream where they could control everything for years in her mind and woke up, and was so depressed and convinced that our world wasn’t real either that she ended up killing herself. Sort of a cautionary tale for these people.
Makes the movie even more sad
too bad the movie is just old enough that nobody who needs that message is old enough to have seen it. quick, we need Inception for tweens!
@@peachy_lili We at least need an Inception "renaissance" like the Twilight series has experienced lol
Can't believe i just got spoiled the plot of inception on a random video about shifting to hogwarts
@@pola9882 Then you should have watched it sooner😂 The movie is pretty old😉
Plot twist: The shifters have shifted into a reality where shifting isn't real, and now they must convince us it exists so they can return home.
That’s scary
As a shifter I actually found it funny lol
@@rocky-jy5nx You will not convince me, fool.
you cant even do that💀
ok buddy😭that is just embarrassing 😭
The biggest give away that it’s all fake is the fact that EVERYONE is meeting Harry, the twins, etc. They’re just meeting the characters of the series. You’d think if this actually was shifting to a different reality then there would be some new people for them to talk about. They wouldn’t all just date draco lmao
Literally what I was thinking lol like they only interact with the main cast 😭😂😂😂
Fr! But at this point I’m thinking it’s a more realistic form of lucid dreaming
@@reichigo exactly shifting is real
@@reichigo it doesn’t make sense from a scientific POV at all
@@aestheticrrat it doesn't make sense from any POV at all 😂. It's delusional. And creepy. And delusional.
Going to script in my next shifting experience that I will be Hagrid's big spoon. Wish me luck!
good luck! see you there!
How, he's so tall? You'd go numb from Hagrid crushing all the bones in your arm. Try spooning Fang instead.
@@alexdavis665 Nah man I'd do it like I'm a bookbag. It's all in the script trust the process
A ladle? Or just like a soup spoon?
@@owenhall5742 I’m pretty small compared to him so I’d go teaspoon to be quite honest
just wanted to point out a decent sized plot hole, why do they never mention that anything happens with non main character students if they’re actually going there? they should have hundreds of interactions with the other students alongside the main characters lol
yeah but those videos don't get views so they don't make them LMAO
i've seen plenty of videos talking about random people they've met but they don't get views cuz everyone is just confused in the comments
and they never talk about the school part of the magic school theyre "shifting" too, they never mention the classes, or taking tests. its like theyre in an empty room with draco malfoy and harry potter
They do, ive followed many people who talked about them being friends with side characters and them talking about what their friendship is like. But at the same time thats not what people are most interested in. When shifters script their friends they will most likely choose main characters they know
Yeah, as a shifter, and hogwards shifter specifically. Some people choose to just interact with main people, some not. It isn't true that we don't talk about other students in hogwards. You hear exactly what you want, nothing more
Descartes said that once we start philosophizing about if we exist or not is when we should stop. I think, therefore I am. We exist y'all.
@TheNinjaNuNu lmfao what Descartes was trying to tell us the whole time: WE EXIST Y'ALL!!!
It’s not if we exist or not, because it’s obvious to an individual that at least you exist to yourself. The question is to what level we exist, and the nature of existence as a whole. Just kids trying their damndest to rationalize our already impossible existence in an even more impossible way. But you still right tho.
My boyfriends little sister fully believes that her boyfriend is Chris Evans. Like Captain America chris evans... she has given her bank password to this guy online thinking it was him because she’s so invested in that world. It’s so upsetting like it should not be normalized... it literally harms people.
Yea i think lot of people could get mental issues from thing in the long run and that why I’m going to stop trying :)
There is a slim difference between shifting and delusions.
it's okay to lucid dream/"shift", as long as you recognise that it isn't real. you made the world, you're just using a clear scope to see into it.
Wait I’m confused. She thinks this because she’s dating him in her dreams?
i honestly do not understand what this has to do with shifting. ma’am- that’s called being delusional- you never said that she shifted, you just said she was obsessed, and you’ve gotten all these likes from people who now have the misinformation that if you shift, you’re going to end up giving your bank password to a random guy online pretending to be captain america. i- no.
As the great Danny Gonzalez once said, ¨Why does anyone believe anything on TikTok?¨
we are greg
Hey Greg! It's great to meet up with the other fastest growing army on TH-cam members (don't look that up)
@@tori4770 oooo and you like bandori too 😌
I love seeing other Greg's out in the wild 🤩👏✌️🖤🖤
@@TaurusWitch29 We love wild Gregs in this household 😍✨
One of the weirdest things about this to me is that they aren't sexualizing the characters from Harry Potter, they're sexualizing the portrayal of them by real actors, child actors at that.
exactly, and itd be one thing if it was just other minors making the videos (still weird, but not illegal in application) but these are _adults_ which is insane
i remember seeing a clip a little while ago of malfoy’s actor, now an adult, being visibly uncomfortable when someone brought up shifting
like, with fictional characters represented by like animation or from books its harmless, but actors? _people?_ its so strange
@@moonlit_sky127 yeah fr messed up
Those kids are playing a dangerous game with depersonalization.
The part about where their “clone” takes over seriously sounds like the start of multiple personality syndrome.
and i’m sure this has caused a lot of panic attacks for ppl. i’m sure if i was like 15, i’d believe this and would freak the fuck out. poor kids man :/
"Multiple personality syndrome" lol do u wanna try that again? Also, op, agree.
That’s what I was thinking too, I feel like hallucinating or whatever this is w depersonalising is a serious mental health issue and they need serious help
@@minajones8341 Yeaaaah I don't exactly practice shifting/lucid dreaming or whatever it is. But I've been doing hypnosis and self-hypnosis more and more lately where you converse with your subconscious. Ngl I have been actually concerned it might evolve into DID at some point with how much I compartmentalize it and if I already feel that way about self hypnosis where I still have a form of consciousness over it...I can't imagine what that must be like with the kind they're doing.
"it's not lucid dreaming!"
What you tried is literally what you're supposed to do if you want to lucid dream. 😅🤦🏼♀️
@@t4marrra take your meds.
Uhh lil note Just want everyone 2 know that i no longer reallyyy believe in shifting, i was really looking into it and i think what most people are getting it confused with VIVID dreaming, its a phenomenon where ur dreams are so realistic u confuse them with reality, theyre sleep conditions which give u this chronically, but apparently concentration can willfully prompt it to happen (or so i assume) , honestly idk if i believe in it or not i think lucid dreaming and shifting have the same Structure of realness, but ive seen people that have group shifted (which is pretty self explanatory) and they say they remember stuff and the things they did. Which would be weird cuz idk how they could know *your* lucid dream. I think im a very gullible person (which u could probably tell) so they can always be lying but idk. Stuff is weird
i was gonna say lmao, tutorials for how to do it are literally copy/pasted from lucid dreaming, its the same bullshit
@@user-ff7qz7yt2q i suggest you go to therapy
@@t4marrra intellectual response
I'm 16, I was in a pretty dark place last year and I was desperate. Shifting felt like a way to escape my unhappy life and I was seeing so many people (including friends of mine) saying it worked. I believed it. I tried to do it multiple times. I was never able to do it. This made me feel even worse because the only hope I had at the time for my future was going to a different reality. I really feel like these people are (unintentionally) causing a lot of harm to vulnerable teenagers and people in general.
I’m sorry that you were in a dark place. Hope you’re doing better these days!!
@@minajones8341 awww thanks for the kind words. I'm doing a lot better now 😔
Yess literally! It’s kinda fd up if you think about it. They lie to vulnerable teens and convince them that it’s real. I hope you’re feeling better these days.
I made up my own world in response to trauma and now I'm a undiagnosed maladaptive daydreamer
@@Lisa-gl7rc I'm doing a lot better now, but it just makes me feel so bad thinking about all the other kids who are probably struggling because of all of this. I hope this whole shifting "trend" dies down soon
An ex girlfriend of mine was obsessed with shifting and honestly I never said anything but it really hurt me how she would complain about trying so hard to shift and being “stuck” here, it was always in the back of my mind was I not enough for her? Like she had a family who loved her, and she would just always complain about not being able to “leave”
I never confronted her about it but it was kinda scary how obsessed she got with it and I always though it was maybe a coping mechanism for not having the life she wanted or smth, she had a lotta social anxiety n stuff so it was hard for us to go out/ for her to make friends
Someone around you may have been suffering from depression and your first thought was "Am I not enough?" Yeah, I kinda get why she wanted to leave
@horchata beans fr
I have avoident personality disorder, and it sounds like she does too. Maladaptive daydreaming, for me, was a common soothing mechanism. I admittedly was hard to deal with before I got help. I don't blame my exes for leaving me, and I shouldn't have expected people to put up with my constant panic attacks, that got so bad I couldn't leave my bedroom without one. Don't get me wrong, nobody should be callous about mental health, but you're not an asshole for thinking about the impact she was having on you, and leaving.
@@calyyygrazie8 how is that not valid? Relationships are mutual. If she keeps talking about how she wants to leave and she hates her life even though the boyfriend is trying his best then how is that not valid for him to think that? You’re just toxic. Someone is suffering from the insecurity of not being good enough and you’re taking the side of the girl who wants to live in an anime world? Yeah I get why your parents dropped you as a child
hi there! just wanted to quickly say something since someone said you weren't valid. you are 100% valid in feeling like you weren't enough, i think anyone would feel that way if their partner wanted to escape them (in a sense). im sure the situation wasn't easy to be in. don't let people tell you you aren't valid, they haven't lived through your experience and have no right telling you what you are allowed to feel. i hope you're doing better now! also, it sounds like she was going through some stuff, her wanting to escape is not a reflection on your worth, i hope you know that. have a good day/night!
As someone who maladaptively daydreams often, this ‘trend’ is really unsettling
1000%. I'm pretty mentally ill/neurodivergent, to the point where I've actually cried before (multiple times) over not being able to live in my daydreams . . . if this had been around when I was a teenager, I think it would've fucked me up so badly; even now, over a decade past these kids, I can feel the pull of "well, what if it's real?" I dunno, part of me thinks this ia fun harmless trend like self-insert fanfics and part of me finds it kind of disturbing.
I was abt to comment abt maladaptive daydreaming. How fast time passes is scary and it’s a serious problem for me
sincerely im also daydreaming a lot and lol I've believe in it and waiting to shift because I wanna make these daydreams (idk who to called it) reals (because knowing that is not real fck me up) so uhm yea (this as last month now I have no hope for it anymore) i understand these people lol.
@@therealkevinheart2463 witchcraft isn't evil or bad, that's rude
@@therealkevinheart2463 it's okay to be a witch, I am one myself
There's a phenomenon called "Chūnibyō" or "8th grade syndrome", where an individual "so desperately want to stand out that they have convinced themselves they have hidden knowledge or secret powers". I think these shifters qualify.
this reminds me of a friend I used to have in seventh grade who was convinced she had telekinesis lol
Oooh ive heard this from that anime Love, Chunibyo, and Other Delusions
I'm not like the other girls
Yep - that same wonderful category as all the kids who swear that they're really wolves or horses
i was thinking about this the whole time lmaoooo it really does suit them
This whole shifting fad gives me real teen-girls-thinking-theyre-vampires-because-of-twilight vibes
Yupyupyup
very accurate
as someone who got sucked into this for almost two years, its so harmful. it makes you despise your 'current' reality and chase after the possibility of a perfect reality where you can change everything. it makes our current reality seem boring and horrible and blinds u to how beautiful life is. its genuinely just for chronically online people, active imaginations and people that are desperate to escape. its really tragic and i wish it hadnt blown up like it did, ive literally developed rlly bad paranoia over shit like this now
Idk about you but ive seen many warnings from shifters that its not recommended to shift if youre mentally unstable. As a pretty mentally stable person myself i have not had any of these problems in 2 years. Its about balance, everyone now knows u shouldnt obsess too much. Shifting doesnt do those things to you, your mind does. A lot of shifters are just trying to have fun
@@Nyxlaru Even if you're mentally stable, you can still come out of the shifting community with a mental illness like so many others. Just because your mentally stable doesn't mean you're immune to the effects of everything.
@@ispent35minutestryingtocha80 unlikely, meditation doesnt give you mental illness. Obsession could be bad but thats why we people recommend not getting too obsessed
@@Nyxlaru I never said meditation gives you mental illness. I said the obsession with shifting might. And just because shifters reccomend not getting "too obsessed" doesn't mean that a sizable portion of shifters will heed the warning
@@ispent35minutestryingtocha80 well then that's not because of shifting. If people don't know their limits then honestly that's on them isnt it? Others can only give advice but to stay healthy sometimes you just have to follow it.
It’s always Draco too. The My Immortal energy is through the roof. The kids are out here thinking they’re Enoby Raven D’arkness Dementia Way.
LMAO YES
KJFDGHDKFJ maybe that's where the real My Immortal author is hiding
not to gatekeep or anything but none of these kids are even MCR fans. fookin preps. >:(
i wish they'd actually write their own versions of My Immortal, instead of putting their own and others' mental health at risk ://
@@t4marrra bro this is just solipsism at its finest lmao like please just do like two seconds of research
As an Irish person, we call making out with someone, shifting someone-
I can't help but smile when I hear all about shifting realities
I guess now I do want to shift
I'm Irish too and I was laughing at this
Is it gay to shift the homies Goodnight
@@idek5 Nah
@@idek5 😐
A healthier version of shifting is reading books, once you become an avid reader, you actually feel like you are one with the characters and when you finish the book, you have improved your vocabulary which is a plus!
this
Yeah when you read you feel like you are there in the story, picturing it, kind of like a fly on the wall.
And there's no chance of developing a dissociative disorder which is also all kinds of fun
exactly!!!
Fanfics
imagine if this WERE real. that shit would wreck your life, wreck your family, wreck your relationships, wreck your mental health. imagine being somewhere for years and going through the agony of losing your loved ones, only to make new loved ones and then “go back to your current reality” and then go through the same agony again and idk, like, deal with not being in love with your boyfriend anymore bc you miss your hogwarts boyfriend or something lmao
yeah and what if while you’re shifting your friend tells you something important about themselves but you don’t hear it, your “clone” does and once you go back and they ask you “hey do you remember when i told you [insert something here]?” you’d just be dumbfounded bc you don’t know what it is, your “clone” does. reality shifting has a lot of missing holes in it which is why i’m skeptical..
@@MiloLinsey it’s def not real. therapy can def help it just takes a while and it’s minute changes that you don’t notice until much later and you realize you’re in a better place
Just script you can’t get attached to your DR bam
@ω no offense but.. it sounds the same as lucid dreaming.
@ω I'm not trying to offend you, só Im sorry if I saw anything like that, but I just want to yk understand it. I knwo I might sound mean but I always do so yeah sorry.
If shifting was real, then everyone would use it. No one wants their boring life, everyone would leave the moment it was discovered. And there's no actual evidence. I mean if its really a thing then you could even save the world with it.
And the whole message of shifting is really damaging for anyones mental health. It makes your real life look even more depressing, makes you distance yourself from your actual loved ones and its scary for people with serious mental health problems. (Like scizophrenia etc.)
gonna shift into obi wan kenobi's arms tonight
who?
XD 💙 hell yea
Obi wan Kenobi when he sees you: Hello there
@@nickisnotgreen Did You Really Ask Who ? 😭
tell him that I hate him!
i don’t even care about shifting, why would they be mad if they ARE lucid dreaming??? i have the most whack and upsetting dreams and if i could lucid dream that’d be swell
Right??? I've never had a lucid dream and that sounds like a pretty cool experience. And they act like they're being bullied when you tell them that but really it's in their best interest. It's not healthy to believe that you can actually escape into a fictional reality esp when you're that young
@@itslapisnotbob8368 i know! it’s fully encouraging dissociation like ?????
yes!! sometimes I have lucid dreams and they are just the same thing as shifting. I mean they all literally describe what lucid dreams feel like. what the hell is wrong with having lucid dreams now😭😭
RIGHT?!
You can, it just takes practice
as a lucid dreamer, this literally sounds like lucid dreaming...
except shifting is supposed to have all five senses and all fingers, and yea u get the point
@@oumalosman3300 sometimes when I lucid dream it looks so real its just vivid dreaming
@@oumalosman3300 lucid dreaming can feel totally real
Ok so, its like lucid dreaming but Lida better. You can stay there how long you want and in the real reality you'll only be sleep for about 7 hours I think. I'm an 11 year old and I want to try to explore a dr but I'm a Christian and ppl say its witch craft and I want to lucid dream but ppl say its demonic and I'm scared of sleep paralysis
@@tazurajulianseditor7389 lucid dreaming is not a supernatural occurance. It's literally a normal dream except you're aware of the fact that you're dreaming, so you can control what your brain visualises. Not demonic and not witchcraft.
As someone from ireland can i just say that listening to this is a whole new level of mental gymnastics
In ireland we say “shifting” instead of “making out”
THIS WAS ME WHEN I HEARD OF SHIFTING LMAO
shifting to the ed, edd and eddy universe tonight to kill plank wish me luck
LMFAOO
DONT DO IT NOOOO
OH NOOOOO
Plank is my bf don't you dare 😡
@@bigtimebutterbaron8873
Not anymore.
Honestly what confuses me the most are those people saying they spent multiple years bcs like
After you live with someone or something for three whole years, you would prob enter a deep grieving process of losing them after coming back to our reality, and would prob need treatment to readjust to modern way of living
But well at least you would bone draco
One of my best friends had to go therapy when she was little because she was confused if this reality was real or not because she shift and she learned in the therapy that the two reality are real and she still shift sometimes. She said is a awesome and magical experience, if anyone wants to do shift I'd recommend first organize your life, do therapy or go to a psychologist, meditate and rosolve your problems because before you shift you has to be in peace and in calm because in the contrary you could live what's happen to my friend or something worse
And is something that depends on the person
no u just script that u dont get attached
theres literally a junji ito story about that called "long dream" and its one of the most terrifying things ive ever read
@@ravenpark3360 hate to break it to ya bud, but your friend is lying. No legitimate therapist will tell their patients unproven ideas and certainly not when science is currently opposing those ideas. Though it could be that your friend just interpreted the things that the therapist said wrong. And even if the therapist did say those things, who is he/she to determine whether alternate universes exist? Isn't that the job of physicians?
Everytime I feel unintelligent, I remind myself that there are people who think Tom Felton is Draco Malfoy in an alternate universe
Preach
LITERALLY and also i dislike tom Felton
@@na2873
Please someone tell me what he did now 👀
@@snakes7303 idk what are the things you already know but all the racist and transphobic stuff made me dislike him even more
@@na2873
This is news to me, idk shit bout this man. Thanks for answering
I was a kid who constantly daydreamed, read and wished I was in another world and i would have 100% believed this if I knew about it. I actually thought it could be a real thing until I did some research lol. I worry for kids like me today who are getting sucked into this, it's sad that psychosis and dissociation is being promoted and is passed off as innocent fun.
Tom Felton has not been able to sleep peacefully without somebody shifting into his dreams
RELEASE HIM
that man doesn't deserve a peaceful sleep
@@chocolamentable5521EXACTLY
@@chocolamentable5521
What he do..😟
What was that movie again? Oh yeah, Becoming John Malkovich
I saw someone flex like “ yeah i was able to speak 3 languages but now i am out of my shift i can’t anymore” so you don’t speak 3 languages lmaooo
lmao they definitely don't shift or there's something wrong with their script
@@gabrielascott6879 But you can't know a languages without learning it ?
I'm so concerned
@@gabrielascott6879 alright so u do it and come back to this comment section to show us lmao. I want you speaking all the languages in the world
lmao in their dreams they were probably like "jfiodji djsifojdisohf ahfdsoh" and they're like holy shit I can speak another language :O
I don't know why people are so ashamed of saying they have active imaginations. I visualize meeting book characters, leaders, to imagine what meeting them would be like. You don't have to pretend to go to another reality, just admit you like self insert fanfiction.
Hey if you don't want to believe in shifting then stop 🙄
yea lmao i feel like it'd be more understandable to say "oh i read self insert fics" rather than saying "i travelled to another reality just to bone my fave character"
THIS!! I have a really active imagination so whenever people try to explain ‘shifting’ to me it literally just sounds like dreams I’ve had. Like I’ve literally had a dream where I went to college for four years with my favorite anime character. Is that kinda weird? Yes, but I’m not gonna say I was in an alternate reality because I wasn’t. Like I literally had to study take n fail finals in a dream ☹️
My thoughts exactly lmao. Then again when I was 14 I drafted this convoluted premise for a magical alternate realm where you could hang out with fictional characters and I’m not too proud to admit I kind of started to wonder if I was onto something. I think there’s something to be said for a developmental creative stage between make-believe and becoming a storyteller, where the line between play and craft is very blurry (hence the focus on OCs with no context, role-playing, self-insert fics, etc.). Kids this age do a lot of goofy stuff in the process of forming their own identity, and while the added dimension of social media making your pupal stage super public certainly doesn’t help, most of them will outgrow this kind of expression.
@@giggles4895 these are evidence of the creative power of our brains. You didn't “shift” to another reality, your brain created a world that was detailed enough to feel real.
As someone who experiences derealization and depersonalization, ‘shifting’ is an unhealthy way to cope. It’s essentially avoiding your real life by lucid dreaming. Lucid dreaming is fun and all, but creating this belief and cultivating it with a community filled with minors can’t be healthy.
depersonalization and derealization is something I've dealt with most my life and I seriously worry about this triggering a psychotic or dissociative episode in someone.
@@wfmacmillan Yes exactly. It’s all fun and games until it seriously triggers an episode.
Lucid dreaming and Shifting are separate things and are fine do your research
@@elevendr4155 yeah they are separate because one is real and the other is not
@@BetterNicholas Both are real see the CIA documents
all those tiktok stans are just sexualising the characters ALL THE TIME and its so weird considering most of them are minors almost the entire series lmao
yes! like even if shifting was real, why is railing a 16 year old your main prio? like the shit they post is mad creepy
@@tindraakerlind9748 exactly like ''im gonna shift so draco can rail me'' that is literally so weird since those characters would still have feelings in their dr and??? it really weirds me out
Pretty sure most of the people "shifting" are minors as well tbf.
@@andreavr7781 literally, if i could shift i’d be busy with having fun with LITERAL MAGIC
remember tiktok is comprised of mostly teenagers so it makes sense why'd they have a crush on draco he's a 'bad boy' in their age range
It’s not the Harry Potter community it’s more like the TikTok community, I found that most of them haven’t even read the books or watched any of the movies. The only character they know is Draco 🤦🏻♀️
and cedric if you're lucky
that’s why i first got into hp cause it was ruined for me before. but i also seen interesting clips
, Fake ass fans are so annoying
Ikr 👁👄👁 like they are fake fans (most of them)
Dios, los fans antiguos de Harry Potter sois más tóxicos que lo nuevos. No todos los nuevos que han entrado al fandom a sido por moda
My mother suffered abuse as a child and dissociated to a made up world to protect herself from it. She didn't start getting therapy until she was in her 30s, and she's now 49 and still has this dissociation problem occasionally. It's actually very disruptive even though the world in her head is a pleasant one.
i just cant understand how is dissociating the minority
I tried following one of the shifting methods once bc why not, and honestly? Ive never slept better than when i "tried" shifting. Literally, like a log, didn't even dream. Loved it
Same, I tried to shift for month and I did so many relaxing things it was really good for my body.
seems like a okay place to say this. i try to shift every now and then. not to escape or anything, just because i want to be in hogwarts learning magic with characters and stuff.
i’ve read these comments and am now terrified to, thinking i’ll get mental disorders and stuff when i know it’s just in my head and is not reality. i did not know it was lucid dreaming and now im scared
but i sleep so well when i try to
@@hannahgbanna shifting isn't real though, its just lucid dreaming
@@hannahgbanna don't let them discourage you. shifting is 100% real and it's not lucid dreaming and it won't give you any disorders.
@@livelaughslay2633 Stop.
I think that a lot of the people who think they are shifting are either lucid dreaming or maladaptive daydreaming. I would also like to say that the shifting community is creepily positive and cult like.
Or even astral projecting
As a shifter it is neither - and also it is not a cult. Literally just an online community of people who shift, learn tips, share stories, etc.
@@caitlinb35 …no, it’s lucid dreaming.
@@arcadeii as someone who also lucid dreams - no it is not. In lucid dreams, you can't read, tell time, look in a mirror, etc. You can do these things when you shift. Reality checks also fail in dreams: this is not true when you shift (ie, when you shift you cant press your finger through your palm, or cause illogical stuff to happen). Also, time dilation is possible when you shift, but not when you lucid dream. You can also shift without falling asleep. And when you shift you cannot control the world or people around you, which you can do when you lucid dream. Just to name a few differences.
@@caitlinb35 I never said it was a cult, just very cult like. I understand not wanting to be in this reality, it sucks here and maybe thinking you can shift and leave is what help you get through it but also you need to be careful about who you preach too. The audience for shifting is often very young and impressionable. I understand it has religious significance to some but like with my opinion of christianity, do what you want but please don’t brainwash kids. If you are an adult or near adult then do what you want and choose what you believe but leave kids alone, they need to be given a chance to grow and decide for themselves without being given wild promises and constant assurance that you are right.
Dude, it’s so refreshing to have a commentator who’s actually funny and doesn’t try so hard for every joke. Love the vids mate, keep em up!
thanks so much michael!!
As a Gen Z who doesn’t believe in shifting, it’s sad to see people I know get so frustrated and sad when they can’t. It’s really hurting young people.
Yeah I was actually in that phase like a year ago glad I'm out of that, because I never actually shift or anything I just sleep so Im just convince that it's fake or something
Shifting is technically real in the form of dissociation and lucid dreaming which in itself isn’t unhealthy, but what IS unhealthy is encouraging kids to hate their reality and want to escape from it every night, and treating it like some crazy religious experience.
But I have shifted..
@@Kettie5 EXACTLY
A while back I really thought I could. It really upset me because people acted like I wasn’t believing, trying hard enough.
You can't really process time when you're lucid dreaming. I remember a lucid dream of mine where I kept waking up in a dream over and over again. It felt like I had been dreaming for months. Is it cool to be able to script your dreams? Yes. Are they shifting realities? Probably not.
yes exactly! when you shift, time is linear, which is a huge difference between shifting and lucid dreaming
and the fact that time progresses linearly is actually another big reason why it feels so real
When you're dreaming/in a lucid dream you know that you're in a dream, but when you shift everything will feel real and you will immediately know
it's actually really jarring for the first time literally fucking waking up somewhere else
I still don’t get how people script their dreams😭 i’ve had a lucid dream many times, but they’re never scripted. I think this is maladaptive daydreaming for these people who believe they’ve actually shifted. I’d love to script my dreams so I wouldn’t have nightmares anymore
ill shift to a world where my dad loves me
I'm shifting to a world where my dad doesn't leave me 😔
i'll shift to a world where i have a dad
That comment brought a tear to my eye. I can only hope that somehow, in some way, things will get better for you in this world. I wish you all the best. ❤️
Or one where he’s still there
i made him dead🥵😫☝️
i’m gonna shift into the universe where it’s spelled Berenstein Bears, peace
this is absolute gold
h..how is it spelled...
@@foraged_porridge BerenSTAIN bears. STAIN
I shift into a world where TikTok doesn’t exist.
Can you take me with you
please take me with you
Drop the script ASAP
that sounds beautiful
see I would shift into a world where only the funny and actually useful videos exist, no charlie no "hype" just things that make me happy or are interesting.
I appreciate how they keep saying it is not lucid dreaming without explaining how it is not lucid dreaming.
Maybe that's bc you're watching a tiny clip of what ppl have to say that was put together by someone who, from the beginning, was convinced they're all delusional, and not actually asking anyone in the community?
Also: reality checks that fail in dreams (e.g. counting your fingers, pinching your nose and trying to breathe) have the same outcome as in your waking life (e.g. your fingers look like they always do, you can't breathe through a pinched nose)
Time also moves normally, just like when you're awake, unlike in dreams
Just 2 quick examples
This stuff is really triggering to a lot of mental illnesses and tbh seems actually extremely harmful to be widespread irresponsibly like this
the nature of humanity is that every few years someone reinvents metaphysical philosophy (if you leave out the shifting and hogwarts crap) i mean it's ok to think deeper about our existence and stuff but that doesn't mean you have to become delusional.
I mean it's not exactly delusional. I've been looking into witchcraft lately (wait for it) and I was surprised to realize that it turns out it's always the same recycled actually proven phenomenon in psychology but with different terms. Shifting, Dissociating, Depersonalizing, Astral Projecting, Daydreaming, Hypnosis. That's kind of all the same thing but with different names and method. There's validity to it in the sense that it's probably them just putting themselves under hypnosis and dissociating themselves into a specific fantasy they have, it would feel completely real to them especially if they use full hypnosis rather than semi-hypnosis and if it feels real it wouldn't be actually strange to imagine that the experience they went through during that time actually impacted them as a person and gave them growth especially if they did for a really long time. They just lack the self-awareness to realize that it's an easily explainable occurrence that goes further than "Alternate Realities are real and Hogwarts actually exist and we can travel through portals". But they're mostly young. I was convinced for a super long time that my family lied to me and my mom wasn't my biological mother but somehow my dad was my bio dad and I couldn't donate my blood or everyone will know.
Kids make weird shit up, they'll either move on from it and class it as a "yikes that was cringey" thing or they'll actually do more research and transform it into a responsible thing.
It can be dangerous tho and it's concerning that they're doing it probably without knowing the risks (creating psychotic episodes, a dissociative identity disorder, paranoia) since it's supposedly a "new practice".
@@ArturGlass.C Nope those are all completely different things
if shifting were real why hasnt draco malfoy gotten a restraining order on like half these people
by the time they start boning him, another one appears, he doesn't have enough time to guess their names
hu
tao
He should lol
I don't actually think the magical world has restraining orders or anything like that, and I doubt he'd know about the magical equivalent -- as for whether or not he'd use it... he'd probably be desperate enough at that point in time.
Although maybe the shifters will just include something about no restraining orders in their new scripts.
@@thisisme4074 It's a joke
I’d love to see two “Shifters” try to shift into the same universe and have a conversation, without scripting together or consulting each other beforehand, other than where you’re going to “shift” to.
If you can go anywhere, surely you can have a conversation with your bestie? Then both of you can remember what the other said, right? /s
Its possible its called group shifting
i was wondering the same thing. like, these people are trying to shift to the same universe. you’d think they’d be running into fellow shifters if they’re actually doing what they say they’re doing.
@@devil-byte wdyn
@@devil-byte hey im a shifter, dont mean to be attacked but! we arent shifting to the same reality :D, we are shifting to a reality where we are in that reality, (already existing), while others who shift are shifting to realities where they are in that reality, (already existing). please if u have questions, ask them! its rlly upsetting when people think we're crazy and dont bother to hear us explain :(
well if that were to happen they may have to have scripted the entire thing beforehand, otherwise I don't think they've shifted to the same reality.
I just shifted to my minecraft world and the dragon was my lil boo
Mood
i’m proud of u
Nice
I recently left the community after coming to the realisation that it really isn't real, and its definitely some form of disassociation. I'm glad I got out before things got too serious. I remember feeling really detached from life and thinking, hold on this isn't normal. I also want to highlight that the community is incredibly toxic - they have this thing called "respawning" which is essentially ending your life in this reality and you'll wake up in your "desired reality". the fact that this is encouraged to impressionable young minds is quite frankly disgusting. Young children are literally going to commit suicide because they believe that they will wake up in their fave place. It's really sad and needs to stop.
Same its sad that all this kids are trying there hardest to get away from there lives promising to go to there favorite show trying every night its sad becuase ive done that and it made me super sad and lonely waiting to meet my favorite charaters I'm getting better tho
what the fuck, they're encouraging suicide to end up in some fictional world?? this is beyond fucked up.
@Captain Levi i read more into it the other day and apparently it's not suicide. i think that is a way that you can "respawn" but there are other ways. i'm not really sure how and i don't really care but it's essentially "cutting ties with your current reality," which is still fucked up. encouraging kids to completely reject this reality will lead to serious mental health problems.
@Captain Levi mhm, i completely agree
yeah this needs to stop
Dude the “Michael Jackson went to Demon Slayer” one is a joke. There’s a gag in the fandom that the main villain looks like him.
I think he knows that
Hehe
@@theelectricprince8231 LMAO
The first “shifting” method sounds a lot like methods used to teach yourself to lucid dream. If you’re trying to have a lucid dream, it’s common to do similar meditations before sleep (picturing what you want to see in your dream as you’re falling asleep, etc.) Honestly shifting literally just seems like a form of lucid dreaming to me, except these people seem to believe they’re not actually dreaming, whereas usually the point of lucid dreaming is that you know it’s a dream.
If they were lucid dreaming, I don’t get how they’d be able to create a script in their mind and have it perfectly display how they want it to be. is it even possible to have that much control while dreaming?
i don’t wanna poke fun at em cuz they’re teenagers who are obviously in a dark place if they’re this desperate to escape reality but this is so.. much work 😭 just write a fanfic about yourself and whoever you want
yeah literally just write a shitty self insert wattpad fic n move on !!!!
They aren’t in a dark place these teens except special cases haven’t experienced real trauma, sure you might get some bully’s but there’s always bullies they aren’t getting drafted for war most of them have a really healthy life they just think they are so deprived it’s saddening
@@Ckrost most of these people have actually gone through alot of shit all of my friends who believe in shifting have really horrible lives so not really
@@Ckrost you can't call someones trauma real or fake
@@Ckrost stop invalidating people's trauma ??
Just wanted to add my two cents: I suffered from sleep paralysis, night terrors, and just chronically have nightmares that are too vivid (for most of my life). Monitoring my diet before bed did nothing. Lucid dreaming once a blue moon gives me peace. When I started therapy, we started to script my dreams beforehand to trigger lucid dreaming and make sure I don’t have a nightmare or rewrite a reoccurring nightmare. A bit after that I came across shifting on tiktok. It’s essentially the same thing. Our perceptions in dreams can become blurred at times, our brains are freaky. Time perception in dreams can make it feel like days or months go by. Dreams are manifestations of our subconscious, as far as we know. Scripting is a legit therapy practice, HOWEVER I do not like how tiktok has framed this as some superpower and transportation method, and that CIA document has no correlation/causation to these experiences.
@@iulia-bn3gx I don't know about the original comment but I've had lucid dreams for most of my life and yes sometimes it can feel like they last for days, I think the longest one I had lasted a couple of weeks not a full month but almost there, in my experience you don't "live" the whole days only the most important parts and because while we are dreaming our sense of reality is kind of disoriented you interpret that as the full day passing. Like if you know for a fact that something is supposed to happen in three days within your dream and you get to that point you just assumed it's been three days
@@iulia-bn3gx your brain kinda tricks you into it being really long but in reality a dream lasts 2 hours. Like time skips in a movie.
@@iulia-bn3gx TW DEATH/SUICIDE
When I used to basically only have lucid dreams due to trauma it would feel like the dream was lasting weeks upon weeks and I couldn’t escape without essentially killing myself because our brain can’t interpret that feeling. I could be in constant agony and have the worst pain mentally and physically but I knew it was a dream and I knew the way to escape was the well do what my brain hasn’t experienced fully. I couldn’t literally go to sleep in my dream and wake up and still be in the same dream, it was trippy. Ofc I wasn’t actually asleep in my dream bc all of it is an altered sense of reality that your brain is making up. It’s scary and I was only able to get out of my dreams in other ways when I scripted them with the help of my therapist. Mine are gone now for the most part but if you’re going through something “shifting” isn’t something you want to mess without a mental help provider to plan it out so you can have control of your dreams and not make decisions that can leave you feeling worse in reality.
I have never lucid dreamed but i have heard that u cant feel anything in it and it doesnt feel real or look real if you get what I’m saying. When shifting u can feel things and it feels real. Also with the days thing u cant be in a dream for months tho can you? (I’m not saying you can’t because i dont rlly know anything abt lucid dreaming) but i’m trying to lucid dream but also trying to shift because how is there not a multiverse. Space is endless and shifting doesnt happen inside of our heads. Idk if what i’m saying makes any sense but anyways
@@xaidil8459 yeah but when u are shifting you know its not a dream because its so real yk. And also people are shifting for many months im pretty sure u can’t dream that
Why was I so completely distracted by the circles shining on his glasses?
Lol
WaNdAvIsIoN wA wAnDaViSiOn
@@adrianastevens4826 lol quicksilver is the best tbh
Me too lmao
Every time the circles are perfectly centered over his eyes take a shot
it’s honestly wild because i struggle with anxiety and i remember seeing that exact video about how we’re all not real and it MESSED me up😭 might sound dramatic but anxiety is fucked up. it’s so beyond me that some creators have brainwashed so many minors in to believing this.
No you're right. I watched Generation Loss, an indie psychological horrorshow about the protagonist only being a character in a liveshow for the greater masses to control and them trying to break out of it, and what leads me to my point is the timeloop theory. That once the liveshow inside this liveshow ends, it just starts over the same as before. That for me created a lot of existential dread that I ignored as I got ready for bed.
I finished this show thinking I totally wasn't impacted, and a short night's sleep later I wake up, and I start my day with derealisation that soon became a long and extreme existential anxiety attack. My mom still lives under the belief that I'm a perfectly normal child and that there's nothing to treat or pay extra mind to
@@sand_eater101 LMAO i know what genloss is!!!! (and your feelings are so valid) also hello fello lovejoy fan
This seems like an extremely unhealthy version of maladaptive dreaming
i have a friend who maldaptively daydreams and both are really really bad
You think if this were real people would rather shift into a universe where they’re mega fucking rich or one where a loved one is still alive, but sure I guess banging Draco Malfoy is..... an option 😐
well you can get rich in real life but you’ll never get to meet draco malfoy ig lmaooo idek
not everyone wants to get railed by draco, the majority of us (including me) just want to finally feel at home and be friends with their comfort characters and experience magic and just be who they wanna be. i want to have fun with the golden trio and be best friends with luna and neville and have fun doing magic and going on adventures, and as much as i am a draco simp (and have been since 3rd grade when i started investing in the series), that’s not what i’m shifting for. i’m shifting to be where i’ve wanted to be since i was 8 and experience magic
I really don’t get it. Harry Potter has been my number one thing that I consider myself a fan of for the past 15 years. When I was a kid, people hated Malfoy. As we got older we saw that he was somewhat redeemable. But none of my friends fantasise about boning him. Because he’s a child. Like, younger teenagers and kids that crush on Malfoy, that’s fine. But like, seeing these people aged 18 to around 23 talking about Draco in that way... c’mon. It’s messed up.
@@t4marrra no u
i think it would be interesting to play with the limits of them. like go into a reality with magic and see how badly you can mess stuff up with magical powers. maybe crash the universe a little with your metaphysical bug testing.
The girl talking about how Maybe Everything Isn't Real sounds like me talking to my therapist during an Episode
True ,derealization at its worst
honestly sounded like my mental breakdown with my best friend every month. one time i said medications were controlling us because we take them and then we do things, i said something like that
Yeah I felt my depersonalisation kick in and I was like uuuuh no no no
Stay well 💙
I do want to point out that trauma isn’t always going off to war. A pandemic, economic instability, and the ice caps melting around us can certainly traumatize the kids spending their formative years in a world that hasn’t given them hope for a viable future.
This “shifting” is extremely concerning and not entirely surprising.
Yeah I 100% agree. WAY too little comments about this. Trauma isn’t just war. Things that have a lasting negative effect on You are trauma. PTSD has a certain set of symptoms. If You have them, it doesn’t matter if the situation “wasn’t that bad” - it evidently was bad ENOUGH to cause lasting trauma!
Our young generations ARE severely traumatised. Telling them they’re not will not make them less traumatised lol I’m genuinely not surprised that “shifting” is so incredibly popular - it’s like THE perfect and most realistic way of using escapism to cope!
Invalidating people’s feelings and shitting on their trauma won’t make them any better. In fact, it will almost certainly make them worse.
@@alexanderendrizzi462 fr!!! covid trauma is very very real and the idea that the only place trauma can come from is large-scale bloodshed is a good way to invalidate a lot of people's experiences real quick
I'm pretty sure shifting is just a unhealthy coping mechanism, we saw a large growth in shifting during the pandemic and this is because people are lonely and depressed. Even if shifting is real, it's not healthy. You should look for happiness in your own reality, not in someone elses.
Im happy im not in the community anymore
@@eden9536 I tried to shift once but realized that my own mental safety was at risk. I think others need to consider the concesquences of their actions beyond "I might be mentally tired later." I'm glad you were able to see that! 😊
@@GeraldTheLlama i tried for months and it was so hard to leave the community but i think it was the lack of documents and proof (just testimonies of ppl) so this is why i leave it and tried lucid dreaming instead
@@eden9536 okay i’m still so confused about it all- like does a clone actually take over your body? can someone really be in hogwarts or wherever for three years? i’ve had friends talking about doing it, writing scripts etc, but i still don’t get it
@@Clara-ze9hu So basically they believe about travel with your mind into alternatives reality. There is not really proof about they said that CIA make experience about it BUT it’s not about travel through different realities. Also I thinks it’s meaningless that we can travel into fantasy universe first because they said that they are real person so not fictionals and you need to “come back home” and how they can be real when it’s J.K Rowling that create them, so you are telling me you saw Tom felton interpreted Malfoy ? 😭 it’s also applies for anime etc
Funny how in their "shifts" they are always magical, always happen to be besties with the main characters, and get to do what they want. It'd be more believable if they shifted into a Potterverse McDonald's worker who served Harry, Ron, and Hermione one time, but otherwise lived a mundane life.
How do u know that’s not my script ._.
"shifting" is just writing Mary Sue fanfiction with more steps.
(or maybe less steps cause you're not even writing it down.. you're just imagining it while half asleep..)
Scripting.... that’s the point lol
Bahaha I was thinking this. Like "the Harry Potter universe actually exists" but also you can change the time to whenever you want and be whoever you want to be and look however you want to be. They always say like "The difference between a lucid dream and shifting is that in shifting you can't change things." Isn't that exactly what scripting is? If the Harry Potter reality is a real, static, unchanging reality like they say it is, Draco Malfoy should be hating all those girls guts and ignoring them hardcore and also be 50 and married... Like I don't get it. You shift into a different reality that exists but it can be whatever you want. Either they are literally inventing a reality out of their own imagination and brain power, or there is a reality for every single miniscule difference and infinite realities in which Draco was never born??
They probably write self insert fan fictions
even if shifting is real, there are so many cooler places to go than hogwarts
That’s why I’m going to demon slayer
@@Samantha-uw8wz i thought ur already there Zenitsu 🙄
@@cloud6404 yeah but I need to go see nezuko Chan
fr it just has lots of visuals which makes it easier for people to shift ig idk. but definitely better places.
The world of Harry Potter is way more detailed then most shows or movie series. That’s what makes it popular.
Ok but if millions of teenagers constantly shifted to hogwarts wouldnt they meet each other at hogwarts at some point
thats.. not how it works 😭🙌🏼
@@auroramendoza8402 but surely it should happen if they’re ‘shifting’ to a different reality, one where we all exists but just have different lives 🙃
so... that's not how it works. they're not shifting in the same reality. they are shifting in different realities acording to their scripts
@@caitlananne you don’t know how it’s works dont talk about it…
@@r3yd3y1 So "different personalized realities"? Anyone who believes that is delusional.
Everyone going to "Different personalized lies" would be accurate though
The thing about reality is that it's reality. Stuff that happens in reality actually happens.
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away."
Lotta people desperate to go into HP to date Malfoy but guys, there are racists you can date in our universe too ❤❤
Noo but really why do girls like him?? Hes a racist rich white kid like? Hes like wizard ben Shapiro
Gin Imaginary hes also so ugly
@@Natalie-fk7gu I swear to God they treat Malfoy like he's the epitome of human masculinity but like bro he's ugly af. Like actually ugly.
@@zephyr-117sdropzone8 truee 💀💀💀 they be like "i hate all men but 😼 (insert draco pic)"
LIKE HE’S JUST NOT IN ANY WAY APPEALING?? like even if ur into the whole sadism thing like...malfoy isn’t even good at it...he constantly gets dunked on
Draco would be like 40 now y'all... These little 15 year olds need to calm down
frr have you seen Tom Felton in the Flash
Some of those kids are literally 11 or 12. Like no he would be old enough to be your father if he was a real person and that's illegal as hell.
@@PearlFirexx good thing I’m 21 lmao
Honestly this feels like that story of the naked king where only the people worthy could see the clothes but there were no clothes
The Emperor's New Clothes?
What cursed childhood memory have you surfaced?
i have a friend who was broken up with because their girlfriend was shifting to harry potter and was dating harry potter's dad. when they said they were uncomfortable with it, their girlfriend chose james potter over them and broke up with them