Roman Abramovich Secretly Bought Another Club
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 เม.ย. 2023
- Roman Abramovich is one of the most notable owners in the past 20 years, and his public removal from Chelsea seemed to be the end of his only club ownership. The only issue with that is that it wasn’t. Abramovich was involved in the ownership of another club that was incredibly well hidden, but has now been revealed by a leak.
This is against the rules put down by FIFA, but Abramovich was definitely passionate about owning clubs. This story required a deep dive into a cypriot company that creates shell company for Russian oligarchs that need to move money in a hidden way. I never thought I would need to know this information to make TH-cam videos, so thank you Roman Abramovich I appreciate it.
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Who would've guessed that the Russian invasion of Ukraine would lead to Chelsea one year later being 11th in the EPL with 2 sacked managers as well as over half a billion pounds spent on over 20 different signings in just ONE season.
Exactly, Abramovic was a great owner
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It was gods plan
NATO hates Chelsea, that's why they caused all this 🤣
Only in America!
Everyone knew Vitesse and Chelsea had a close relationship so I think many people suspected something was off.
What is really interesting is that Chelsea's loan players turned a profit annually which means Abramovich managed to find a way to further fund Chelsea through a secondary club.
Abramovich is the blueprint of what owners should be, but less shady
Every Chelsea player on loan costs a fee, simple
Considering all of that, you'd have to use the US term for such a secondary club. Therefore, Vitesse would be Chelsea's de-facto farm team.
I got told when i was young that chelsea and vittese got the same owner
It was right after all 😂
@@k1llsk Abramovic is us on FM
We already knew at the time in The Netherlands that Abramovic was behind the money. He did it in a very smart way. Was just public knowledge. We just never knew how much exactly was pumped into the club until recently. Jordania was a great charismatic guy though.
yes, everyone kinda knew it from day 1 and Jordania confirmed it after he was send away. the positive thing is that it is much more difficult to buy a club in the Netherlands, because of cases like vitesse and ADO den haag.
@@harsch123 what happened with den haag?
Yeah I think it's just no one could prove it before?
@@jessicantina Having Albert Ferrer, former Chelsea defender there right from the start of that time as manager was a big Scooby, so we all said that was going on, it's not as if that much proof was needed when so many Chelse were being parked up there.
I mean, you didn't exactly need to be Sherlock Holmes or Einstein to figure that one out, and my Dutch friends also said it at the time too, just like OP wrote, it was in their press at the time.
I always thought everyone knew and that this wasnt even a secret
In The Netherlands we already knew that Abramovich was behind the money and Chelsea and Vitesse had an insanely close relationship, players like Mason Mount, Lucas Piazon and Matic played for Vitesse.
We also used to call Vitesse, Chelsea B here in The Netherlands.
What was mount like at Vitesse?
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@@GuinessOriginal Decent, not that great tbf.
@@KaasKopGameplay I think he’s overrated. Southgate loves him for England, but his record isn’t that great, he’s better than average at most things, but he’s not particularly outstanding in anything. A good squad player in a decent side, I would say.
I always thought Vitesse was owned by Chelsea in some way. Turns out, I was sorta right.
Lol, it's like me when I create a second manager in my save file and misteriously loan a bunch of players to them for free while overpaying some of their worst players.
Oh championship manager, good time lol.
no chance that company responds to your email , billionaires get their PA to send emails like that or have someone on behalf reach out, no billionaire is writing a one paragh email to buy a club
mate. idk what to tell you.....
Speaking from your experience as a billionaire?
@@JMEAUS22 I'll speak from my experience as an astronaut and say that astronauts typically don't take their helmets off in space.
@@crimsonking6246 😂
@cr637 You'd be shocked how little knowledge on how things get done, some billionaire's have. All I'm saying.
Chelsea and Vitesse relations were always obvious - ex Russia national team head coach Leonid Slutsky was a head coach of Vitesse some years ago and he doesn't hide he's on good terms with Abramovich
P.S.: the fact that you picked Rotenberg is hilarious - his one son was a bench player for Lokomotiv Moscow for many years becoming a meme in Russian football community, and his other son appointed himself the head coach of CSKA Moscow hockey team. When he was asked how did he feel about leading such a huge club with no experience whatsoever he told the story of football coach Jose Mourinho (he called him Marino for some reason), who used to be a translator for Sir Alex Ferguson (and he mixed up the facts again)
One correction: Roman Rotenberg is the head coach of SKA Saint Petersburg, not CSKA Moscow. These two teams play each other right now, so they are definitely different =)
For those interested, SKA means 'army sport club' (СКА, спортивный клуб армии) and C stands for 'central' (Ц, центральный).
@@Akolyx no one cares
@@beginendend3094 wtf is your problem?
Hahaha hilarious. I care and enjoyed your comment
@@beginendend3094 cared enough to comment
Choosing Boris Rotenberg as "not obvious" is funny 😂 He is like one of the closest putin's friends and an owner of the football club in ruzzia
Their family is a huge influence in ice hockey too. Wrestling with sanction issues etc.. oh Zealand.
Also he owns one of the biggest ice hockey arenas in Finland that has been without use since the invasion of Ukraine because of his ownership
@@fernandomustachioso9737 Boris Romanovich Rotenberg (I'm saying his patronymic to not confuse him with his son Boris Borisovich) also holds Finnish citizenship. That makes the whole situation even more complicated in terms of sanctions and the associated restrictions of movement.
Yeah! Not the best choice of oligarch, he's pretty famous back in Russia
@@yaroslavhrushytskyy roman and Boris have actually had legal battles in court 😂
Erm, whilst I love the investigating, I'm not sure publicly admitting impersonation in regards to the Russian email guy is good idea, given its a criminal offense in the US. Good luck!!
Yeah I was thinking surely he ain’t that stupid
The guy you mentioned, Boris Romanovich Rotenberg, the founder of SMP Bank, holds Russian AND Finnish citizenship. He is IIRC under sanctions as well. His dual-citizenship means that he can in theory circumvent his restriction of movement in the EU under Schengen as an EU citizen as well, unless Helsinki decides to strip him of citizenship and deport him back to Russia. These types of business deals are an interesting rabbit hole, and a subject for people to deepdive.
I feel like this was obvious at the time...
Of course these days we've progressed from "see if you can untwist my bizarre network of shell companies and fake names" to "oh yeah I just collect clubs now" (see: Man City owners / Red Bull / the fevered dreams of Todd Boehly). Not sure what to think of this transparency if the consensus is that it's all fine apparently.
I wish Roman Abramovic owned most of my favorite soccer clubs across the world. 😫 dude gets results👏🏾
You're a smart person
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These videos are excellent. Zealand is brilliant at summarising long form info into 10 min+ espresso shots. Keep em coming. ....................... Set-Pieces editor
The reason Chelsea or Abramovich did not want Vitesse to challenge for Erdivisie is because of the Champions League rule of one owner having only one team in the same competition in one season. If Chelsea and Vitesse both had qualified and found out later, UEFA bans would have destroyed Chelsea.
Nah, they would have let Chelsea off, ffp isn’t interested in Chelsea, it’s just there for Man Chris w
Love these kind of videos full of news of obscure and unknown situations. Keep these going :D
I immediately thought of Vitesse... because of Football Manager!
Loving these types of videos! Keep them coming please 😊
I wish this man nothing but success
As an Arnhem local;
Well, yes, obviously. Did anyone really think Jordania, Chigrinski or Oyf had enough money on their own to do these investments?
None of the earlier investigations found any breeching of laws, as neither Chelsea nor Abramovich ever had a direct say in the day-to-day running of our club, and we never received money directly from Abramovich either.
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Which of the players loaned to vitese was the best?
@@joshuaconniff7712 of all the loanees during the "Russian era"? Ødegaard. Loaned from Chelsea? Mount.
@@Jothamvvw was about to ask if he was any good. He looks like he’s leaving Chelsea, perhaps Vitesse could resign him?
As a Vitesse fan it’s nice to see that we get some international coverage......
A less controversial topic would be better tho
Your videos are getting soo much better dude, it is crazy
Yh knew this like 10 years ago. Great vid
09:24 You also seem to have missed out that Albert Ferrer, first manager of the club in that tenure was also a Chelsea player as well as a "Spanish international"? I remember watching him and singing his chant very well, it was to the Rupert the Bear Theme tune. Apparently everyone knew his name and loved his game, but not so much nowadays, it seems.
Back then we used to call it "parking up" and Chelsea had many players parked up and developing, getting first team football, not just there, but at least in Norway and Russia as well.
You nailed it, as always, Z. It's RomAn AbramOvich.
I love Zealands pivot into weird football tales. He should colab with HITC Sevens.
As a dutch person and friends with multiple vitesse fans i always knew vittesse and chelsea had something but abramovich owning it?, it was a long stretch back then now its confirmed and my friends can't beleive it
Sadge, this is the club I support. SBV Vitesse Arnhem is from Arnhem (the town I was born).
However I can tell you right now, that yes we had great players on loan such as Mason Mount, Christian Atsu and Armando Broja etc from Chelsea. The thing is though that we actually made them the players they are and we never had more than 4 players on loan from them at all times. Most of them didn't even make the starting lineups. What I'm trying to say is that even though "Chelsea owned Vitesse", they never ruled Vitesse. Our own directors had no idea and we were checked twice by the KNVB (which is the official government football association from the Netherlands.) like Zealand said. Vitesse itself was kept in the dark about this and that's what makes this really messed up for me as a fan.
Edit: Of course we had an idea that maybe there were some things that Vitesse helped Chelsea with, however it really didn't matter that much as that's fairly normal when you're affiliated with a bigger club. There was no interference with day-to-day activities related to the club. If you see certain owners nowadays such as the City Group or Red Bull, it wouldn't really make sense to punish Vitesse for doing the exact same thing as they are doing currently.
I thought Chelsea's relationship with Vitesse is already well known.
Great video, but I didn't understand why Abramovitch would fund a smaller club if he can't be visible about it - unless it's for profit, or how Chelsea was benefiting from this link?...
Vitesse was not allowed to win the Dutch Eredivisie and we know why....because of the CL. But in the season of 2012/2013 after 30 (of 34) matches, Vitesse was 2nd in the eredivisie 5 points behind Ajax. With 4 games to come, I can imagine that Abramovich was a bit nervous because Vitesse had a nice program in front of them. Feyenoord away (3rd) Willem II home (18th) RKC away (14th) and VVV away (17th). And knowing now they were not allowed to go into the CL, I'm curious what they did because Vitesse only won from Willem II that last 4 games and losses the other 3. Feyenoord is not suspicious, but RKC is now knowing this. Because if they won that match they had a huge change for 2nd place, which will let Vitesse go for CL qualifications! So what happened during the match against RKC on May 5th 2013. 2-0 behind after the first half, but then in 68min Vitesse scores the equalizer and a minute later a penalty for RKC, which causes the 3-2, and that was the final score. Suspicious a minute after the qualizer Kashia causes a penalty... unfortunately, I can't find any highlight of that game.
It’s sad that Chelsea has been reduced and average team after Roman was forced to sell. He did a wonder things for my club and it was unfair the he had to liquidate. So much for the free world.
The new American owners have no idea what they are doing.
Ruthless but wanted the best for Chelsea. I wish Abramovich gave the club to the fans like Bayern Munich since he made a mid table club like Chelsea into one of the most profitable and largest fanbase in the world
@@EliasRoy Chelsea isn't even the largest fanbase in London mate 😂😂
Jordania not long ago talked about this in a podcast. The plan was to give experience to Chelsea players. He kind of made it sound like it was never a secret that Avramovich was the real owner.
Vitesse in Arnhem btw and not in Amsterdam.
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I've been playing FM23 for 2 weeks now, I've played FM before. I was wondering how come the simulation via the calendar is really slow while I have a really good PC. half a season is already a long time. I hear people are already a season or 4 further in their save game I wonder what I can do to make it go faster. I already watched your video about settings and applied everything nothing helps
help me please.
....and at no point did you suggest that Abrahomvic launder money, well done sir, good content.
Bro about to get sued by a billionaire for identity theft 💀👀
Have a feeling Russian Oligarchs take a more "direct" approach. Upcoming video "Famous TH-camr just disappeared"!
He should have bought another Spanish club who he could have probably got on the cheap. A club who had played in Champions and beat big teams. This team sadly got relegated to division 3 and came back to division 2 this season, so next season they'll hopefully come back to division 1 and if someone like Abramovich came up I can really see this team achieving great things with his backing, plus he'd have a great crowd appreciation as they have a great group of supporters( Im a supporter, I support Chelsea f.c)
That explains a lot. Just off the top of my head mount and musonda.
Chelsea ain't the only Prem team to be in a similar situation, see City Group, Brighton/ USG for example
By the way, Boris Rotenberg actually owns a football club - PFC Sochi. So, nice try
He is a real fan he couldn’t have enough With just one club
I just want to know.... Will we see a music video for the new Loans song? 🤔
Wow bro we’ve BEEN knowing this now I’ll give a video idea Peter Lim 😂
I'm not a football insider but I thought it was public knowledge he owned Vitesse. If not, that he was at least involved with the club, more than just a mutual agreement that Chelsea loan players to Vitesse.
Nantahala Outdoor Center on your shirt??
I thought this was public knowledge over a decade ago
I thought this was widely known?
Same
It's a high time we hold politicians responsible both in US & UK to tell us the source of their wealth. Leave Abramovich alone!
@Zealand.... Time for a loan themed Bon Jovi cover. " You give loans a bad name"
It's street knowledge if you follow the team/league that Vitesse and Chelsea are extremely interlinked. Noone should be surprised that roman was behind this
This has been known about for ages. Lot of Chelsea players been on loan there.
Hey Zealand, seems like TH-cam is doing something fishy with your videos. For the past several days, any of your videos I watch, the video keeps stopping and buffering, and of course up pops TH-cam's "Experiencing interruptions" popup.
However, it is just your videos for the moment. I can watch anything else on TH-cam, and no interruptions. Definitely seems like TH-cam is somehow blocking your vids (hear in the NYC area).
Definitely TH-cam is blocking/buffering Zealand's videos. Just watched a few videos from music reaction TH-camrs - all no problem. Watched 3 videos from another FM TH-camr - not once did a video buffer. So come back to Zealand, and instantly the buffering begins and up pops the "Experiencing interruptions" message.
I can't be the only one experiencing these issues? It can't be computer related, as can easily watch other videos. Why is TH-cam "buffering" Zealand's videos nonstop?
I knew about vitesse, I heard he gave someone the money to buy the club in their name.
It was kinda known since the start in the Netherlands only nobody did something about it
i always assumed that vitesse was n affiliate club of chelsea's
Vitesse in the Eredivisie, saved you the time of Zealand beating around the bush
first since the zealandism videoooooo
Hahha mood I saw that and remembered this when he posted this vid
Makes all the Chelsea’s Liam moves
Merab Jordania's son Kakhi tried to buy FC Den Bosch in 2018. The Dutch FA has to approve all new ownerships, but before they did Kakhi had already pumped tons of money in the club which saw them fight for promotion after several poor years. Eventually the Dutch FA didn't approve the takeover, partially because of the investigation and rumours surrounding his father Merab and Abramovich. Kakhi was furious and went to court to get all his money (almost 2 mil euros) back from Den Bosch, who were unable to pay this. I believe they still haven't settled it and court cases are still ongoing
Is that a Taunton Town FC flag?? Whats the story behind that? Cant get one like that and I live in the town hahaha
We already knew about this.
I thought this was widely known already 😂
I got to say I love these theme investigation videos, but either the Freaky group hackers of or the MeritusServices thughs are coming for you now. It was nice to “meet” you Z. Thanks for all the loans songs
Presumably where they to reach to the champions league during that time the money would have been under more scrutiny hence the idea idea they couldn't push higher
So are we getting "loans loans" on spotify or what?
Most of these shell holders will have onion server URLS you'll need to find. The people contacting them through the website is usually a screening to know who's not actually serious about their "inquiry"
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Thanks for the video!
We pretty much knew this.
Vitesse and Chelsea have been linked together for as long as I can remember it's no surprise why now lol Abramovich owned both and used vitesse as a loan club for Chelsea players for years, now I know why vitesse specifically
I thought this was already known
this was known in the netherlands before he even bought the club
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It's worse than that. They regularly was top of the league but if they got into the champions league, uefa would start looking into ownership. There was technically match fixing involved to keep them out of the cl
Feels like some staff roles are missing from FM, dodgy lawyer, affiliate club puppet owner, money launderers.
😂😂😂
Zea tricked us into watching a long video of him taking about loans.
Chelsea and vitesse where affiliates
What about the team in turkey ?
IIRC they haven't played each other in any official matches, so I'm fine with it
This guy is hilarious😅😅 where have I been
Ths is news nowadays? Geez, this has been known for ages. Why do you think the club formed a partnership and loaned everyone and their mother there.
Wait, this was a secret?
At least Vitesse got their first ever official title by winning the KNVB Cup in 2017 lol
Man with all this information out there now one can have a private life
Spending 170 million euros on a team worth 8 can only be money laundering
You should keep the shaved head look it’s the best
To be honest a lot of people in the Netherlands knew this already xD ohwell now it's finally open to the public.
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Zealand: takes Rotenberg
Me shocked in russian :
seriously blyad the most unobvious option?)))
Secret? we knew this for years her ein the Netherlands lol
It was an "open secret".
Roman just wanted an affiliate club for Chelsea unfortunately unlike fm it costs alot more 😂
All Majors sites looks pretty basic. Back in days, when osama wasn't "cold" topic yet, SBG site looked pretty much the same.
U have name, contact and all that basic stuff MAXIMUM 2xA4 pages total.
When u find such caviar, u can usually kudo urself - you have just found one of the world wefts.. ;)
Please be Chelsea, please be Chelsea 😭🙏😭
Gotta love the freaky crew
Dude, my only question is: Why do you have a Cleveland SC jersey on your wall?! Did you play for them or are you from NE Ohio? I feel like those are the only options. Haha Anyway great content!
Huh, i thought everyone knew..
I don't understand why ambravoich was keeping this a secret.
Best owner ever