@zeroskillnofun I would say that thunderflask is quite strong against any class that can't just sit behind a block. I'm not saying remove it but it definitely should not be 6 seconds of slow. Keep in mind your class had usually at least 1.2-1.4k health. The other classes tend to sit closer to 600-700. You have almost double the tanking power, a get out of jail free card dash, a shield that blocks most damage, and a parry that also negates damage. Not saying the class cant be fought but adding a class that's main drawback is being slow, and then giving it the ability to slow people to a crawl is a bit of an oversight on it I think. Most classes aren't outtrading decent fighters/dk in close quarter combat without a bit of ganking or kiting. Cant exactly kite with a 60% slow lol
@@slaayerr1 I do agree to a certain degree, but if it weren’t for Thunderclap Fighters would never be able to approach Cryos, Druids, Rogues, etc They are just too nimble and they all have abilities that either slow Fighters, help them dissingage or strate up block them (Tree) I do think that with the addition of the double dash with E Fighter mught become pretty scary, but we’ll have to see
@zeroskillnofun yeah and I mean obviously certain other things would need to be toned down like druids just running away like morons constantly in cat form. I get the struggles for both sides of that topic but there's nothing worse than playing a class with half the health of another to be countered by a single throw lol. I feel like more times than not, of I'm playing medium armor classes like rogue or SM I'm choosing to just ignore and avoid fighters/dk more than actually want to fight them simply from not being able to have much counterplay to them in a straight 1v1 fight.
@@slaayerr1 I feel you mate. Maybe make the radius splash of thunderclap much smaller so it becomes a skill shot type of tool that if it lands it gives a high reward
It feels like sometimes it’s just better to parry the fighter’s whirlwind with water you have in your hands rather than attempting to switch to a shield. You get locked up in animation and it takes time to take out a shield and a mace and block. So you’re going to be eating 4-5 whirlwind hits loosing much more than a quarter of your HP. I’d just use up charge and run away and wait out until whirlwind is done rather than standing in the middle of it, trying to swap weapons.
That’s also a good option if your opponent doesn’t have a dash. Otherwise you’re better off saving it for a heal imo As for swaping weapons I’m fairly certain you only get hit by 3 swings of Whirlwind which is around 250DMG relative to gear If you block with a long sword you’re blocking 40DMG 10 times which is 400 damage, also relative to gear
@@GamingDualitiesBroken item that everyone has access to. If you don't use flasks to counter flasks, that's your problem, not a proof of broken concept.
I need some tips on how to even trigger a parry? i am trying to practice on mobs, but it's hit or miss. Also, how does blocking work? does blocking with shield actually mitigate damage?
Blocking with shield mitigates damage taken from 97%-100% depending on the rarity Blocking with shield is very simple since you just hold right click and you’re good. With a mace you can also attack whilst blocking by clicking left click whilst holding right click As for parries it’s all about timing You need to figure out a way to calculate how long it will take an attack to land and click block with a 2 handed word a few frames before the attack lands
Hey mate ty for this Video! You solved some issue in my fighter tactics. Can you say sth on stats / sets you go for? Do you go now for second strenght perk Sinne yesterdays Patch?
In all honesty I rarely build kits, I just use stolen gear, but I recommend Life increase, shield when using abilities, critical damage increase and resistances (Mainly shadow and ice) As for set bonuses: Dragon Scale, Tangling chain, Force of Trinity and the one who’s third active passive is healing 70HP for 3 seconds (Forgot its name)
you recommend going for the will requirement for no team dmg? playing mainly duo with druid, and do you ever recommend whirlwind in duo? Or is it's sole use in trio?
Great Video and advice! Your legit. Little advice for future videos though and maybe its just me but your in game sound kind of drowns out your voice some of the video its pretty hard to hear you or understand what your saying. No criticism just incase I am not the only person.
Great vid. At the 9min mark you talk about why the decision passive is so important, but I don’t understand your mean. Doesn’t a perfect party always crit (since it always hits the head)?
You’re correct. I realised just yesterday that that’s the case. For some reason I thought that Crit Strikes on parties were not guaranteed if you didn’t hit the enemies head
Sadly Classic doesn’t care about gear level.. Regardless, full purple vs half blue half purple is almost identical and will barely affect the result of a fight
@zeroskillnofun my man most of the people didn't even have all blues lol, it was like 2 or 3 on each. Playing one of the high health classes with full purple is pretty much just saying you're gonna win most fights as long as you have thunderflasks to avoid the only counter to the class
@@zeroskillnofun giving it armor pen would be terrible since it's already a mindless crutch ability in the lower skill lobbies or if they manage to get it off on someone mid combo who can't block yet
I always avoid open areas. Move your shield up and down whilst crouching and standing to make it harder to aim for limbs and if they try to peep through doors you can heavy attack through them to hit the rogue whilst he opens/closes the door
@@zeroskillnofun all the time, even first skeleton of the video, you just tap tap tap it on the head, my mace doesn't do the same thing, it looks like you interrupt animation
@@zeroskillnofun ok, in training room it was as fast as yours, I don't know what was that in the game, swing time was like im in defence state all the time
how the hell do you get out of soul shroud? it slows you and DK has more dex than fighter. They just soul shroud and block everything and kill me. It feels like DK is just 2 times better than Fighter sometimes
Not exactly. Fighter deals more damage and has more HP than DK, add to the fact that you have a Q that can heal you up more than the damage taken by Soul Shroud and makes you deal more damage and attack faster Your sustain is also better thanks to you being able to dash away, fire flask them to slow their healing and deal damage whilst you can heal up Over all it’s a matter of learning the matchup and abusing two handed swords
I like how they nerf the panther only so that he can still run away as much as he wants. Maybe is not as bad as it was before tho, but I just find it funny. Druid is literally a pussy style of play which fits the pussy cat. Couldn't be me tho.
Well I normally just run whatever I scavenge, but I recommend going for max life/Life , Criticak Strike damage for extra damage on parries and also movement speed As for set bonuses: Tangling Chane, Dragon Scale, Pity of Death are good
All I learned from this video is just outgear your enemy. You never showed your enemies having set bonuses or even a decent loh build(ye nerfed but still strong). Like sure you played better against most of them but the better players with better gear probably killed you.
Casual MM is supposed to partner you up with people of similar Gear Score, or at least it used to when I recorded this This makes it easier to farm good gear instead of farming gold Also if you think Classic is the big boy arena you’re completely wrong since there is no GS in that gamemode
@@zeroskillnofun ah alright, im quite new and often get killed by players that have full blue while im still on a couple of greens so didnt know its suppose to matchmake ur gear
I enjoy these videos and then it gets me hyped and I go play a game and I realize how unbalanced and out of touch the devs are lol….fyi the devs just nerfed the rogue the weakest character in the game….
I just dont understand this game, when I´m playing every hit I get is almost death, I se they hit you and its nothing.. I cant win a single battle... I must be the worst player ever it doesnt make any sense by now. Thanks fo the tips though
Cause he’s playing in Casual with all purples while his targets are blues and all these youtube videos don’t show you when they messed up by another equal GS player lol. If you’re playing in low gears like whites vs greens for instance it doesn’t do really much different except active passives. But purple gear is like literally different and can be a lot more powerful. I’d suggest you to keep playing with low gear score (below 6) until you’re comfortable with some of the classes then you can slowly up the gear score and make some better builds.
Yeah the guy replying is right to some degree. In classic and casual MM doesn’t work so you can run into greens and blues in full purple gear which is pretty sus
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Gotta love how the entire meta always revolves around the broken " thunderflask them" tactic lol
@@slaayerr1 TF can be baited and avoided. Besides it ai t that strong
@zeroskillnofun I would say that thunderflask is quite strong against any class that can't just sit behind a block. I'm not saying remove it but it definitely should not be 6 seconds of slow. Keep in mind your class had usually at least 1.2-1.4k health. The other classes tend to sit closer to 600-700. You have almost double the tanking power, a get out of jail free card dash, a shield that blocks most damage, and a parry that also negates damage. Not saying the class cant be fought but adding a class that's main drawback is being slow, and then giving it the ability to slow people to a crawl is a bit of an oversight on it I think. Most classes aren't outtrading decent fighters/dk in close quarter combat without a bit of ganking or kiting. Cant exactly kite with a 60% slow lol
@@slaayerr1 I do agree to a certain degree, but if it weren’t for Thunderclap Fighters would never be able to approach Cryos, Druids, Rogues, etc
They are just too nimble and they all have abilities that either slow Fighters, help them dissingage or strate up block them (Tree)
I do think that with the addition of the double dash with E Fighter mught become pretty scary, but we’ll have to see
@zeroskillnofun yeah and I mean obviously certain other things would need to be toned down like druids just running away like morons constantly in cat form. I get the struggles for both sides of that topic but there's nothing worse than playing a class with half the health of another to be countered by a single throw lol. I feel like more times than not, of I'm playing medium armor classes like rogue or SM I'm choosing to just ignore and avoid fighters/dk more than actually want to fight them simply from not being able to have much counterplay to them in a straight 1v1 fight.
@@slaayerr1 I feel you mate. Maybe make the radius splash of thunderclap much smaller so it becomes a skill shot type of tool that if it lands it gives a high reward
It feels like sometimes it’s just better to parry the fighter’s whirlwind with water you have in your hands rather than attempting to switch to a shield. You get locked up in animation and it takes time to take out a shield and a mace and block. So you’re going to be eating 4-5 whirlwind hits loosing much more than a quarter of your HP. I’d just use up charge and run away and wait out until whirlwind is done rather than standing in the middle of it, trying to swap weapons.
That’s also a good option if your opponent doesn’t have a dash. Otherwise you’re better off saving it for a heal imo
As for swaping weapons I’m fairly certain you only get hit by 3 swings of Whirlwind which is around 250DMG relative to gear
If you block with a long sword you’re blocking 40DMG 10 times which is 400 damage, also relative to gear
Nice video helped a lot!
Great stuff I appreciate it!
Next video: "How to Beat ALL Characters as Priest Dungeonborne"
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Video: "don't play priest" *roll credits*
So short it can't be even used on shorts needs be used has a add video
Thunder flask legit is the only way some classes are viable
@@SkirkCommander facts
Most broken item in the game still
@@GamingDualitiesBroken item that everyone has access to. If you don't use flasks to counter flasks, that's your problem, not a proof of broken concept.
Was watching your video, while playing Dungeonborne and saw u in killtab, what a coincidance
I need some tips on how to even trigger a parry? i am trying to practice on mobs, but it's hit or miss. Also, how does blocking work? does blocking with shield actually mitigate damage?
Blocking with shield mitigates damage taken from 97%-100% depending on the rarity
Blocking with shield is very simple since you just hold right click and you’re good. With a mace you can also attack whilst blocking by clicking left click whilst holding right click
As for parries it’s all about timing
You need to figure out a way to calculate how long it will take an attack to land and click block with a 2 handed word a few frames before the attack lands
So, if I get this right, it's longsword vs shielded opponents and shield + whatever weapons against daggers and one hand swords??
Yup
Hey mate ty for this Video! You solved some issue in my fighter tactics.
Can you say sth on stats / sets you go for?
Do you go now for second strenght perk Sinne yesterdays Patch?
In all honesty I rarely build kits, I just use stolen gear, but I recommend Life increase, shield when using abilities, critical damage increase and resistances (Mainly shadow and ice)
As for set bonuses: Dragon Scale, Tangling chain, Force of Trinity and the one who’s third active passive is healing 70HP for 3 seconds (Forgot its name)
niceeeeee video. what do you think is best? 2h sword or dual wielding 2swords.
Two handed sword almost every scenario. The only scenario I think dual wielding is best is against mages
what do you think about the new update/buff on fighter? is whirlwind meta now with two dashes?
Sadly no. It’s still very easy to counter and the dash doesn’t really do much for him outside of killing Pyros or Druids
you recommend going for the will requirement for no team dmg? playing mainly duo with druid, and do you ever recommend whirlwind in duo? Or is it's sole use in trio?
Don’t recommend Will unless you’re playing with Pyro
Whirlwind is mostly for trios, in duos battle cry is better ai think
Once I defeated him in a fair fight, and my happiness was not the limit.
Good stuff. Now can you show us greens how to do it using green gear?
Since several of you are asking I’ll work on a green video soon
Ty sur. WE love you. ( Yeah green / blue BECAUSE. A Big majority play on low matchmaking. 20 or 23.@@zeroskillnofun
What are your thoughts on Dual swords, worth using? I have a lot of success with them with green sets in casual but idk if it's as good in purple.
In solos I don’t since dual swords is only good vs mages which right now are rarely played
@@zeroskillnofun do you play Fighter in Clotho's btw?
I love to perfect pary the spin of a warrior with longsword cause you can deal so much more damages than him with the ripost
is rogue good or do i play knight or fighter?
Rogue is pretty mid rn, you’re better off playing fighter/DK although at the end of the day play whatever you enjoy
Great Video and advice! Your legit. Little advice for future videos though and maybe its just me but your in game sound kind of drowns out your voice some of the video its pretty hard to hear you or understand what your saying. No criticism just incase I am not the only person.
Noted!
Great vid. At the 9min mark you talk about why the decision passive is so important, but I don’t understand your mean. Doesn’t a perfect party always crit (since it always hits the head)?
You’re correct. I realised just yesterday that that’s the case. For some reason I thought that Crit Strikes on parties were not guaranteed if you didn’t hit the enemies head
@@zeroskillnofun dex still gives critdmg
Hi, I'm new to this game. Tell me what mouse settings to set and what is your DPI?
I play default
Full violet vs blue. Its pretty easy to kill them
Interesting video. I Def need to use shield more. You seemed to greatly outgear each fight though
Sadly Classic doesn’t care about gear level..
Regardless, full purple vs half blue half purple is almost identical and will barely affect the result of a fight
@zeroskillnofun my man most of the people didn't even have all blues lol, it was like 2 or 3 on each. Playing one of the high health classes with full purple is pretty much just saying you're gonna win most fights as long as you have thunderflasks to avoid the only counter to the class
@@slaayerr1 Skill issue innit
@@zeroskillnofun oh no he's one of those guys hahaha. The copium crowd
@@slaayerr1 Nah I just stand by what I said. Blue gear can beat purple gear with no problem as long as the skill level is on par
Can you show your build?
I’ll try to in future videos, but I literally just run equipment that I take from others
@@zeroskillnofun I wanna make it heal on hit like you sometimes it doesn't heal on hit idk why
I play only fighter, i wish whirlwind was usefull o solo like 30% block pen or something, Nice contes btw
Yeah.. I feel like Whirlwind should be a deterrent so that DKs and other classes want to stay away by having armour pen as you said or something else
@@zeroskillnofun giving it armor pen would be terrible since it's already a mindless crutch ability in the lower skill lobbies or if they manage to get it off on someone mid combo who can't block yet
You r so good at this game. I learned so much from your video thx.
hey, how u deal with rogues who just shoot you and staying away?
I always avoid open areas. Move your shield up and down whilst crouching and standing to make it harder to aim for limbs and if they try to peep through doors you can heavy attack through them to hit the rogue whilst he opens/closes the door
how the hell you swing that mace so fast?
Not sure what time stamp you’re referring to, but Fighter’s Q gives him a 30% attack speed buff
@@zeroskillnofun all the time, even first skeleton of the video, you just tap tap tap it on the head, my mace doesn't do the same thing, it looks like you interrupt animation
@@zeroskillnofun ok, in training room it was as fast as yours, I don't know what was that in the game, swing time was like im in defence state all the time
how the hell do you get out of soul shroud? it slows you and DK has more dex than fighter. They just soul shroud and block everything and kill me. It feels like DK is just 2 times better than Fighter sometimes
Not exactly. Fighter deals more damage and has more HP than DK, add to the fact that you have a Q that can heal you up more than the damage taken by Soul Shroud and makes you deal more damage and attack faster
Your sustain is also better thanks to you being able to dash away, fire flask them to slow their healing and deal damage whilst you can heal up
Over all it’s a matter of learning the matchup and abusing two handed swords
I like how they nerf the panther only so that he can still run away as much as he wants. Maybe is not as bad as it was before tho, but I just find it funny. Druid is literally a pussy style of play which fits the pussy cat. Couldn't be me tho.
😂😂😂
Build /Gear of your pj?
Well I normally just run whatever I scavenge, but I recommend going for max life/Life , Criticak Strike damage for extra damage on parries and also movement speed
As for set bonuses: Tangling Chane, Dragon Scale, Pity of Death are good
1:48 how does this hit though xD
Good game (probably lag)
Every time that i find a cryomancer, they do half my health with the curse and heal themselves for twice the damage i do. I hate cryo
He can be annoying ngl
Dark and Darker from temu
40+ gs fighting against 20 gs making tutorials nice
Skill issue if you can’t get high gear score sorry
press one time tab atleast for show ur perks xD
4:29
All I learned from this video is just outgear your enemy. You never showed your enemies having set bonuses or even a decent loh build(ye nerfed but still strong). Like sure you played better against most of them but the better players with better gear probably killed you.
Posting a video the 17th beating 3 LoH full purple DKs if interested.
@@zeroskillnofun Alright hopefully it shows up on my recommended.
why are u playing casual in full purples?
Casual MM is supposed to partner you up with people of similar Gear Score, or at least it used to when I recorded this
This makes it easier to farm good gear instead of farming gold
Also if you think Classic is the big boy arena you’re completely wrong since there is no GS in that gamemode
@@zeroskillnofun ah alright, im quite new and often get killed by players that have full blue while im still on a couple of greens so didnt know its suppose to matchmake ur gear
@@ReeewardT you can check your gear level and other players when you spectate
I enjoy these videos and then it gets me hyped and I go play a game and I realize how unbalanced and out of touch the devs are lol….fyi the devs just nerfed the rogue the weakest character in the game….
The game is fairly new, give them some time and I’m sure it Will get better
full purp set in casual low gear Lobby. in classic ull get stomped by those loh bozos
You cant get in s loe gear lobby as full purple. And LOH is not nearly as popular amymore after nerfs
@@Javr175 quit doing meth bro
Nah I wreck LoH players. Just check some other vids I have and you’ll see
I just dont understand this game, when I´m playing every hit I get is almost death, I se they hit you and its nothing.. I cant win a single battle... I must be the worst player ever it doesnt make any sense by now. Thanks fo the tips though
Cause he’s playing in Casual with all purples while his targets are blues and all these youtube videos don’t show you when they messed up by another equal GS player lol. If you’re playing in low gears like whites vs greens for instance it doesn’t do really much different except active passives. But purple gear is like literally different and can be a lot more powerful.
I’d suggest you to keep playing with low gear score (below 6) until you’re comfortable with some of the classes then you can slowly up the gear score and make some better builds.
Yeah the guy replying is right to some degree. In classic and casual MM doesn’t work so you can run into greens and blues in full purple gear which is pretty sus
Fighter is a broken class now. Mage and rogues dead Now u can play only fighter, dk and swordmaster
lol iv rekt u with my druid before
Plenty people have beaten the hell out of me ngl
Love how ppl are just thunder flasking themselves in a few of these clips 😂
Me too! It makes my life so much easier 😂