A Critique Of Shane Dawson.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ย. 2024
- The Right Opinion - A Critique Of Shane Dawson | TRO (Inside The Mind of Jake Paul)
I had a few topics to pick out of the hat, but I found such a fascinating one today that I couldn’t possibly ignore it, and it’s obviously in part about the titular character, Mr. Shane Dawson here. Shane Dawson, like a lot of people we talk about on this channel, is a TH-camr, I’m sure many of you are already aware of this, but if you’ve somehow just discovered the platform, and you’ve had the pleasure of having this beautiful accent introduce you. That’s what he is, a TH-camr, but he’s not any old TH-camr, he’s not any geek off the street, he is one of the first TH-camrs to gain prominence on the platform.
This was mainly through his channel Shane Dawson TV, the TV there, clearly making it sound nice and professional, he uploaded these comedy sketch style videos, an iconic classic being “Fred”, in which Shane Dawson appropriately deals with Fred so he can establish himself as the most popular TH-camr on the platform, which, you know, I’m not complaining about. Anyhow, that was in a simpler time, and as a creator it is a necessity that you evolve with the times, so as charming as these sketches and short films were, it appears they were brought to an end on that channel at the close of 2016.
What took its place though? Well, his third channel, Shane, yep, he had three channels, busy bloke he is, for all we know he might have more. Now Shane, was originally set up as a vlog channel, in the day it was almost like a backup for him letting his followers know what’s up, and what’s going down, with little jokes and memes, nonetheless, still with some pretty saucy clickbait, there was no throwaway thumbnail to Shane it seems. Anyhow, in case you haven’t noticed, with the increasing accessibility to high quality equipment, vlogging has emerged in the last few years as a huge genre, along with this, other genres that have crept into the public eye are mystery genres, list genres, and commentary.
Therefore, Shane did what any person with a level head did, and made his “Shane” channel dedicated to morphing all of those genres together, which is pretty genius to be honest. Although, as a creator Shane was definitely aware of the consequences of mixing a range of genres that are too diverse from each other, and something that his accomplice Bobby Burns would soon find out, and so he tended to mesh them in a very similar style that would bring back the same audience for each video, allowing organic views to turn into suggested views, and this would grow out some great content that had mass appeal to multitudes of audiences, dedicated and casual.
I assume he chose this channel because it probably had the best potential fanbase, and as said, if you tried to mix these videos with already established content in a rather distinctly incompatible style the algorithms loathe it, and so I assume this was a smart move. On top of this, he would include some more personal videos, that would branch out his character, and the relationship that he had with his audience, in a way he was building an empire. The Shane brand not just being an interesting expansion of content for him, but also branching out on the elements of his character, dissecting his childhood, relationships, and asking a lot of questions, with no clear answers. It’s emotionally riveting stuff, it really is.
I feel therefore it was an appropriate succession to continue into these documentary style videos, that deal with many of the components that Shane had dealt with in the past, just in a more bombastic fashion, and under the guise of an individual problem, or person, which is then branched out to implicitly deal with other questions. That’s typically what any video that’s not just a basic reaction will do, but obviously there are tiers to this, and Dawson clearly wanted to do top tier.
Now I recently covered the tea spilling saga, of which one of the people I covered was Jeffree Star, Jeffree Star has always been in the public eye, in fact he’s a very prominent individual clearly, however, given the sort of brewing tea in that community, it made sense that Shane would be interested in covering such controversial figures. However, in my video I note that this whole beauty community kinda dominated the summer and pushed other figures like the Pauls into the background, even though, they were arguably behaving much worse than any of the beauty commentators in question. So when Shane announced his next set of videos were going to be on Jake Paul some people were a tad surprised, here is this topic that was, in a way, kinda dead and buried, and if Shane was gonna pull his shovel out he was gonna have to dig deep to find some interesting content.
EDITING CREDITS BELOW:
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Part 1 References - Ziosity
Shane Dawson TV (First Channel) - th-cam.com/users/ShaneDawsonTV
Fred is Dead - th-cam.com/video/_NLXlZivlyA/w-d-xo.html
Shane Dawson Second Channel - th-cam.com/users/ShaneDawsonTV2
Shane Dawson Third Channel, Channel we’ll be talking about today - th-cam.com/users/shane
Shane Dawson old videos from third channe l- th-cam.com/users/shane/videos?flow=grid&sort=da&view=0&disable_polymer=1
Some examples of the “morphing of genres”:
th-cam.com/video/RbwR_uHhiI0/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/ehby1npFCnk/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/X3ziP9JrlQk/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/eExAkGrcoQ8/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/bDb_M2SmTH0/w-d-xo.html
Bobby Burns - th-cam.com/users/BobbyBurnsOfficial
More personal videos:
th-cam.com/video/Xw_RS1Ovpns/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/GeKhtw8ZZSg/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/7knd0ABcR94/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/kymZR5FrTJY/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/uZcLeS8RYLM/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/EJ-4nFz5hjU/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/LU6xDgpnIyM/w-d-xo.html
Shane Dawson series on Jeffree Star - th-cam.com/play/PLDs0tNoNYTz05R0xo7PCVc-RgL2fsJnGg.html&disable_polymer=1
Shane Dawson Series on Jake Paul - th-cam.com/play/PLDs0tNoNYTz1P3dO8m5Wdv0WE2lPTQSJm.html
First and Second Episodes:
th-cam.com/video/9bpkr91p2xY/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/vTLkSpY_aYg/w-d-xo.html
Part 2 References - Ravaged Twink
Some examples of the “mystery”:
th-cam.com/video/RbwR_uHhiI0/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/ehby1npFCnk/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/X3ziP9JrlQk/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/eExAkGrcoQ8/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/bDb_M2SmTH0/w-d-xo.html
“Mystery” Playlist - th-cam.com/play/PLDs0tNoNYTz2e3dax_MtldWVf_7XrX6ij.html
Self-Exploration:
th-cam.com/video/uZcLeS8RYLM/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/EJ-4nFz5hjU/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/LU6xDgpnIyM/w-d-xo.html
Bright Side - th-cam.com/channels/4rlAVgAK0SGk-yTfe48Qpw.htmlvideos?disable_polymer=1
Matthew Santoro - th-cam.com/users/MatthewSantorovideos?disable_polymer=1
Shane Dawson Friend in Prison Series:
th-cam.com/video/NGWNT6wp3eg/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/h_EyftpAawg/w-d-xo.html
Shane Dawson confronting dad - th-cam.com/video/LU6xDgpnIyM/w-d-xo.html
Shane Dawson older videos/mentions on dad (“animosity”):
th-cam.com/video/mLU1NGPWxUw/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/KrdKT6P4bsg/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/ETpfQJkc4NQ/w-d-xo.html
I’m Done - th-cam.com/video/pZ0lK60WuZ4/w-d-xo.html
TanaCon Series - th-cam.com/video/8xFtIsyRvNE/w-d-xo.html
Shane Dawson series on Jeffree Star - th-cam.com/play/PLDs0tNoNYTz05R0xo7PCVc-RgL2fsJnGg.html&disable_polymer=1
Prince EA Video: th-cam.com/video/_PsLRgEYf9E/w-d-xo.html
Video on TH-camr Manipulation: th-cam.com/video/NPhjRVji-WM/w-d-xo.html
Part 3 References - Corticera
Second Episode Shane Dawson: th-cam.com/video/vTLkSpY_aYg/w-d-xo.html
TanaCon Series - th-cam.com/video/8xFtIsyRvNE/w-d-xo.html
Videos on Shane Dawson on Tana:
th-cam.com/video/A8t3les9vtc/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/h95EeL5UdAA/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/ArHIYLSrC1w/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/IipYtaqEwBA/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/OKyXSN7RNYE/w-d-xo.html
Few videos criticising Jake Paul:
th-cam.com/video/hWgOJWnpahw/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/QretC8VTpOg/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/C64LD9xQfLc/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/TuIcBPm90aM/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/fzj_Gs588_U/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/_geiGzywxvc/w-d-xo.html
Jake Paul Moments - th-cam.com/video/FvlGiJYpjO4/w-d-xo.html
Episode 8 - th-cam.com/video/de9iiaxLEgM/w-d-xo.html
Shane Dawson Series on Jake Paul - th-cam.com/play/PLDs0tNoNYTz1P3dO8m5Wdv0WE2lPTQSJm.html
Part 4 References - Wisps
Shane Dawson Series on Jake Paul - th-cam.com/play/PLDs0tNoNYTz1P3dO8m5Wdv0WE2lPTQSJm.html
Nick Crompton Episode - th-cam.com/video/Hon5Y13M3oA/w-d-xo.html
Martinez Twins leaving Team 10 - th-cam.com/video/PiUHDHFPjS8/w-d-xo.html
Video citing Jake’s treatment of kids - th-cam.com/video/ywcY8TvES6c/w-d-xo.html
Inside The Mind Of Jake Paul - th-cam.com/video/de9iiaxLEgM/w-d-xo.html
Nerd City follow up - Lies of Jake Paul - th-cam.com/video/BwiMc1prWxU/w-d-xo.html
Part 5 References - Cringestoph
Second Episode Shane Dawson: th-cam.com/video/vTLkSpY_aYg/w-d-xo.html
Criticism of Shane Dawson’s Second Episode focused around dehumanising conditions:
twitter.com/crunchypeachboi/status/1045406640986558464
twitter.com/hellpope/status/1045203966861234176
twitter.com/mylifeaskaitDIY/status/1045404868624625665
twitter.com/emdianajones/status/1045562389972865024
twitter.com/garbled13/status/1045558576683446273
twitter.com/mullet_gal/status/1045411222005456896
twitter.com/petercoffin/status/1045497786341478400
Criticism of Shane Dawson’s Second Episode focused around validating actions:
twitter.com/minygth/status/1053008634773467136
twitter.com/MichaelBePetty/status/1053029484285181952
twitter.com/gustavonever/status/1053062317284487169
twitter.com/snorsetta/status/1056842037020905472
twitter.com/rainorbit/status/1055451867877163008
twitter.com/defdumbnblonde/status/1053309862665486348
twitter.com/desibxtch/status/1053448804526186497
twitter.com/lightwormlol/status/1053119813525086209
Nerd City video on Jake’s treatment of kids - th-cam.com/video/ywcY8TvES6c/w-d-xo.html
Tweet that demonstrates logical contradiction: twitter.com/QueenShaneLee/status/1053052895917162497
Point about platforming and influencing: twitter.com/neilcain1234/status/1046905798192967681
twitter.com/xfrce/status/1053037718467485696
twitter.com/fiImclassic/status/1053136507022782464
twitter.com/kori9898/status/1052920028964765696
“Silly” Tweet - twitter.com/idolizingomez/status/1047073482775961600
Shane’s response - twitter.com/shanedawson/status/1047073843305730048
Part 6 References - Akio
Shane Responding to Tweets:
twitter.com/shanedawson/status/1053064669504532480
twitter.com/shanedawson/status/1051300845625589762
twitter.com/shanedawson/status/1050827338336755712
twitter.com/shanedawson/status/1050122613647794176
twitter.com/shanedawson/status/1048000170053459969
twitter.com/shanedawson/status/1047077845447598080
twitter.com/shanedawson/status/1047065509815099392
twitter.com/shanedawson/status/1046899004175527937
twitter.com/shanedawson/status/1045608696938553344
twitter.com/shanedawson/status/1047063035855155200
Articles on him responding:
www.wetheunicorns.com/youtubers/shane-dawson/twitter-fight-racist/
Shane Dawson break - twitter.com/shanedawson/status/1053046146367545344
Part 7 References - Lanooski
Shane Dawson Series on Jake Paul - th-cam.com/play/PLDs0tNoNYTz1P3dO8m5Wdv0WE2lPTQSJm.html
First matpat now you ive been wokring for a month on my script research and editing to make this video almost every point i was gonna cover you did, good video just wish I could have got mine out before yall big boys got to punch up
I like late videos. They’re like late Christmas presents extending the holiday - if that makes any sense.
Now that is good research.
Talk about crediting your sources!
still don't credit your sprite artists
A year ago: ”Yeah, I guess Shane is kinda not good”
Now: *”Wow.”*
Ikr?
This video only critiques Shane's angle in the Jake Paul docuseries. It says literally nothing about Shane himself not being good.
Fawn Whisperer I know?
@@GoblinsAreAGirlsBestFriend op never said otherwise lol
Where in this video did he say Shane is not good. One of the last statements was the Shane was an "overall net positive"
As someone who has watched Shane since I was 11(I am 19 now) and am a fan, I can say that this documentary was shit, and he should have stopped after the third one. I wasn't feeling his last conspiracy documentary since he kept inserting Brittany's extremely dangerous situation which should have been it's own video and juxtaposing it with Chuck E Cheese. Jeffree claimed that Shane told him James was saying things about him, and I wouldn't be surprised if Shane did all this for his own documentary which will be on the beauty community and makeup process. He doesn't seem as happy as when he was just having fun with his friends.
He was so early to the party, the invites hadn't even gone out.
IKR, I had to come back and rewatch this.
@@living411 low key this channel is super underrated. TRO is pretty damn good at this neutral perspective type of stuff.
@@living411 plus this shit is just funny to watch 🤣🤣
How? He spends the majority of the video praising Shane. I love TRO but he went SO SOFT on Shane and that's what I commented back then as well. Why are people randomly now showing up on this video acting like it was a call out when it was a soft critique?
@@GoblinsAreAGirlsBestFriend i feel like it's half and half with some of TROs vids. Because some times he straight up calls them out and other times he'll let them off the hook for no definitive reason. (Like with Dawson)
Kudos to you for fitting this into one 44 minute video. And not an eight part series.
Still too long
This was too spicy not to comment on lmao
Shots. FIRED.
*OH SHI-*
Dominic Monceda HAHAHAAAAAAAA
TRO and D'angelo Wallace were so early to this subject and SO RIGHT.
FRRR
But what has this video to do with what Shane Dawson has been accused of recently?
And Pewdiepie, he released a video ln Shane Dawson 2years ago.
Hell, even ONISION called out Shane years ago
Hell even Game theory got it right as well
This aged like fine wine
Yep
Aged so well I'm getting this recommended.
SUPER well :P
Though ngl, it feels a bit more tongue-in-cheek, like he meant to make the video like Shane's mockumentaries
Whereas Shane's old videos aged like milk. :P
I love how at this time no one considered “is Shane the manipulative one?”
A lot of people accused him of manipulating his audience through the editing of his videos, they said he was trying to sway them one way or the other using certain music types and with the way he asked his questions and what questions he asked or left out
@@myriahkeays3846 Wait really? This is what people are now complaining about now? That content creators make their videos edited down to make people watch and feel a certain way, that is the whole point of entertainment, that is how you make people come a to a certain conclusion you want rather than forcing that conclusion directly onto them
I did
All The Wrong Reasons it just feels manipulative to play horror music while talking about a mental health condition...
@@myriahkeays3846 I have BPD, extreme version of, I am basically emotionally unattainable. Playing a horror music is nothing when people go through mental health problems, it worse. By that case every youtuber is manipulative since they want to get big and make more money off youtube
I feel like the subjects of Shane's documentaries (excluding Molly Burke) have all failed to live up to the positive light that he shed on them:
-Bobby became a douchey, generic LA vlogger.
-Bunny went back to making boring, repetitive content.
-Tana got off scot free from the Tanacon debacle.
-Jeffree "called out" James Charles as a sexual predator with zero evidence.
-Jake promoted gambling to kids and drove around blindfolded.
-He protrayed Eugenia Cooney as happy and recovered from her eating disorder, despite her friends publically stating that her mother is controlling and hurting her
In his attempts to humanize people, he waters down any issues they have that need to be addressed
let's also not forget that Jeffree always inserts himself into drama to come out and say "i won't do it again :((" like every 5 to 6 months, and is also racist (2017 called Jackie Aina a gorilla ) and he hangs around Trisha, who has constantly proven to be a toxic person who thinks life is just one big reality show you can joke your way through and then wonder why people don't believe you.
Very true
I think that’s the point. The only reason why these controversial figures would let Shane do a “documentary” on them is to water down their controversies and make it seem like they’ve “changed.”
And then when anyone tries to bring up past criticisms they’ve done, their fans can just point to the documentaries as a way to show they’ve addressed it. Shane Dawson gets views, the other party gets a pass on anything bad they’ve done, even if it’s genuinely a crime. (Tana with false advertising, Jeffree Star with slander/defamation, etc)
I can't stand what shane has become, hes not the relatable personality he once was. I also hate that it cant be discussed with out his fans attacking.
BroadwayLover Yes, yes, yes. You’ve said everything I haven’t been able to put into words 🙌
I found Shane's forced neutrality deeply insulting.
Nerd city hit on on the head with "asking if Jake Paul is a sociopath gives him a really low bar to clear"
Jake Paul is not a sociopath, but he is a greedy self centered con artist who does not deserve a 'redemption arc' and Shane basically acted as a free publicist.
I think what was clear is that he is a 21 year old child and not very intelligent. He is obviously leaving what he has done in the past behind...I don't see what is so bad about wanting him to do something more positive in the future. The series did seem to paint Shane as some sort of father figure leading him back to the light, but who cares...it's content for 9 year old anyway.
i wouldn’t say shane was a free publicist, he made some mad bank off that series too
Jake Paul isn't dumb. He's inarticulate to some extent, but he's literally a marketing genius. Who cares if he's 21? Being 21 is meaningless. Jake Paul is a greedy asshole and a liar, who cares if he's a sociopath or not? Shane did an absolute shit job at this documentary. I didn't even know who Jake Paul was and I still have no idea. Nerd City's video was so much better and informative.
Shane is an adult which can make videos about whatever the fuck he wants.
I wouldn’t necessarily say free, I’m not even referencing the sponsorship payouts for all the views, but who’s to say Jake didn’t give Shane financial incentive prior to the series even going into production 🤔
love how this is in my recommended during this whole fiasco lol
same lmao
I’m no complaining 😂
I cannot understand the hype behind Shane. He does not strike me as credible, likable, or charismatic. I see him as way in over his head, and actively cash grabbing from drama. The guy is unprofessional, and it boggles my mind that he has so much influence.
He is bland but melodramatic. Like The Twilight series or the Kardashians. Americans love it.
DudeWatches i think it’s because he’s been around for so long. i’ve loved shane and his content for a long time, but that was before the documentaries. after he started doing those, he came off very arrogant and lacking the genuine, raw nature i used to see in him. he used to be around kinder people, but lately reaches out to very controversial and downright toxic individuals. cant say i like him much anymore.
I like him because I find him funny and low key he also is someone that makes me feel better. He suffered a lot and he isn't afraid to say it and that helps me a lot. He often makes me laugh when i'm depressed, and he stuff like his food videos have helped me break dangerously long fasts and eat after days of starving myself.
People like mediocrity.
I now disagree with this comment. I no longer like Shane after what happened I discovered recently.
Am I the only one who loves listening to these while I do crap? Like, I vacuumed the stairs during the last video, and I cooked dinner during this one. Always great.
Grinding in a game and long youtube videos are like peanut butter and jelly.
ew275x 100% agree
Oh, I thought you meant while you were actually taking a crap....cos if its taking 45 mins you need to see a doctor!
i watched it to fall asleep last to night lmaoo.
(no shade tho, i'm back watching the whole thing now)
Packing up my college dorm is what I am doing as I listen.
Can someone pls get those toddlers out of the team ten house b4 theyre traumatized for life
I've been saying this. Whose the fuck's kids are those and what kind of parents would even?
@@aintgotnoname6548 probably they're either related to a member of team 10, or the parents just wanted to use their kids for fame and (possibly) money.
Seeing those clips made me so angry, why the fck is he allowed near children!?!?!? Oh my god...
Too late
I mean he owns them, so would they're his until he says so lol
Expect 2 things:
1. Angry Shane fans raiding the comment section
2. Shane showing up at your house to give you a brand new car while catching it on camera
that's the way he got bobby
Usually we see him commenting on videos saying "Hey! I love your channel, and I've been watching for a long time! :)" As if were supposed to believe that lol
Yep, that’s how he got Bobby to have a full on identity crisis.
Is Shane really that bad?
neegas Depends on personal bias.
This needs a revisit now.
i second this
Right Opinion and Primink have some psychic powers lmao
Ever since Shane started making these documentary style videos I feel he's become less genuine. The Tana Mongue one especially, that narrative was shoved down your throat. Shane is too busy trying to make a positive or sympathetic narrative, that it seemed very dishonest. But the way he reacts to cristism just made me plain hate him, this coming from the person who used to binge Shane every night. It makes me sad really
I really miss the videos he did a couple months ago with ryland, morgan, andrew and garret :(
@@aliciaeberle7501 Yeah, I do too :( He seemed a lot happier back then
Yeah the Tanacon series just made me like him even less
Yeah, don't you hate it when your favorite influencers turn out to be flawed, complicated human beings and not just pleasing machines who exist to make you content in everything they do?
Squeedles _ // finally someone who hates Shane too😍😍
*Sees number of ads*
Hell yeah, my boy is getting paid today.
He earned it. It is high quality original content. I am ok with this. The hard work should=reward.
if he had put jake pauls name in the title he'd probably get paid more
Jake Paul fans are not going to sit through 45 minutes of someone talking....have you seen his videos??!
Antispiral I don't see any ads
One of the few channels where the ads don't feel disruptive or excessive.
Shane purposefully ignored many of Jakes flaws: his casting couch, his businessman persona that completely debunks his façade, and the fact that regardless if the other Team 10 members knew they were going to be pranked, there's an unhealthy power dynamic in that house.
He wanted to be Jake's PR team, just like in the Tana situation, and that's incredibly shady and dishonest. Both people should be scrutinized and shouldn't have YT channels to begin with since they both violate YT guidelines. Did you know Tana also vlogged a dead body? Almost nobody talked about it, and of course, Shane didn't and won't.
SilverKyria thnk you fuck
SilverKyria the Alissa violet video was made after he talked to jake because she kept putting off doing the interview for a long time because she was afraid.regardless it was too late for him to talk about it and in reality part 8 is part 7 and part 7 is part 8 he couldn’t put Alissa’s part last because it only makes sense to end with Jake and that is obviously what everyone is waiting for.
@@theoutsiderjess1869 Did you notice how he dismissed Alissa when she brought up the casting couch though?
SilverKyria did you notice how exhausted the man look
It is sort of annoying! But he's not a reporter. He's just a TH-camr, he's going to have bias. I think he should be more self aware to what his audience wants to know more thoroughly, without his own bias.
I wish you had addressed the criticism about Shane Dawson not understanding sociopathy and the psychologist he talked to being unprofessional and uninformed (ie saying sociopaths have no emotions and calling that “icky”)
To be fair, enough people have already talked about it
Exactly! Sociopaths have levels to them, i for one was diagnosed with sociopathic tendencies, but i still care for some people and feel feelings. He had to realize mental health can't be represented like that. The psychologist read from a book as that wasn't her special area for treatment, couldn't he get someone who treated people for those issues?
also Kati has plagiarized content for her own videos. I've said it and said it, because nobody else is talking about it...
She was an ed specialist wasn't she? And 'family therapist'? Like she was waaaay uneducated to be the supposed 'expert'. Just so not appropriate tbh.
starlighteuu There’s nothing wrong with reading from the DSM-5, even the most professional of psychologists read from it because of how vast it is (that’s like expecting someone to memorize the Bible). I agree that she was probably not the best person to go to for that topic. What most likely happened was Shane chose her because he has(?]/has had an ED and knew her channel so he trusted her the most.
I feel like it's really important to note that people straight up asked him not to do it. No one asked for this, no one wanted it. So it's strange that Shane was surprised by all of the hate. He chose a subject that wasn't just "controversial" but straight up toxic. And then added the whole sociopath thing on top of it which again is a touchy topic as mental health just always is. He's a grown man who keeps choosing to put himself into harms way and people really need to stop praising him for it.
I didn't ask for it but I wanted it. I missed out on the Jeffree Star series because Shane's camera man was exaggerating on the laughing (on purpose I know, because he stopped doing it after a while and it had began to get worse when the comments wanted it previously). So because I didn't watch that video on the controversial figure, I thought the Jake one would be interesting. The sociopath part was the unnecessary thing because it misrepresents mental illness in an era where faux caring is prominent in society.
@@elf9064 Okay but my point was that people were actually actively asking him not to.
Thank. You. And all his fans keep saying he "doesn't know any better" and treat him as if he was an actual child
shane is a parasite
i put off the idea of watching the documentary series for ages, but i recently watched all of it. due to the insight it gave in to these people's lives, i found it very interesting. it's all one sad mess though. the Pauls should get shut down off of TH-cam, but it won't happen, because they make TH-cam so much money! and as for Shane Dawson, idk how i feel about him these days. i don't remember him being this naive and soft
As someone whose fist exposure to Shane was this documentary series, he seems like the type of dude who is so naive and easy to manipulate that if he had a chat with Hitler he would be duped and manipulated into becoming a brownshirt or feel bad for him.
ew275x Lol
He's racist too so yes he would be sympathetic to Hitler
I really needed to know your first exposure to fisting, thank you.
dude i like your profile pic
D Zuke no it’s more like “this guy is so easy to manipulate that if he had a chat with a guy specifically known for being the cause of one of the biggest and most horrifying human rights violations in modern history...he’d STILL fall for it and manipulated by him.”
Fixed it for you because you obviously missed the point... if you KNOW of how horrible someone is before you sit down with them and still get fooled then that’s on you...fool.
All Shane Dawson did was try to make people feel sorry for Jake Paul and by going through the comments on those videos it worked. It was a bullshit series.
Hahahahahahahahahaha no it didn't. I used to be fine with Jake Paul. I now hate him because the series exposed him as an abusive, racist piece of shit. It's so obvious when people haven't watched the series. AKA you.
It was a well-calculated PR move for Jake and a chance for Shane to make a lot of views and $ while still cultivating his "naive innocent" persona for his naive fans. He was indeed trying to make Jake look like a victim, Jake wouldn't have accepted to participate in a series whose goal is to demonize him. People think he is an idiot but he is actually a very smart entrepreneur. Shane chose to end on Jake's version of the stories even though he talked to Alissa after talking to Jake because ending with Alissa could have lead to us looking at Jake's sobby interview more critically. Having everyone else talk about Jake at the start and THEN Jake talk about what happens make it SEEMS like Jake is debunking the lies, like his version of the story is the one that really matters, whereas doing things the other way around would have looked like the videos where other people are talking about him are meant to debunk or make us look at him in a more sceptical way. Very deliberately framing! And as I said, those videos aren't all in chronological order so the framing is very obviously intentional.
The series wasn't about exposing the truth about Jake but exposing what Jake wants us to think about him. Shane didn't push hard on nerd city's criticism of Jake's business tactics because he saw that Jake was getting angry, that shows that this entire docu-series was meant to benefit Jake. even Nick in the 3rd episode said he's only going to talk about what Jake allows him to talk about. And the series ends with Jake walking away from the camera while sad piano music plays, 😒.
Shane made more than 6 hours of videos to restore Jake's image in exchange for millions of views. and what did Shane say in the trailer again? "he is not gonna like it when he finds out what it's really about"? yeah, right! Jake had full control over the way he was portrayed.
@@annathompson2399 That is one of the stupidest fucking comments I've ever read. You might as well have said "Well that's not what happened to me, so it didn't happen to anyone else". Just because you didn't fall for the videos narrative doesn't mean other people didn't, and by some of the comments on the videos it's obvious some people did. Your comment is a year old so there's probably no point in replying to it, but whatever.
the way he treats Brittany Louise Taylor, his first ever youtube friend by shoving her story of abuse and human trafficking into the same video as a prank about pizza while dedicating video after video to snake paul and tana mongoose is just telling of his clout chasing, greedy mentality tbh.
RIGHT?! like Brittany ACTUALLY went through shit and is MENTALLY SCARRED but Jakes the one we're gonna go for so we can exploit a mental illness most people don't understand.
Oh right I remember that, now he laughed at tatis sxxlly abuse. Shane Dawson has always been a bad person and has always had the same ideas, I can't believe people are still justifying his actions with he changed.
Its super dangerous and concerning how Shane is currently the only creator (or even internet personality) at this point who CANT be criticized. No one would DARE say a word against him and that's something that I wish people could look into. Anyone who can't be criticized without bringing down the wrath of damn near the whole YT community is, imo, someone who needs to be investigated. I'm always very skeptical of these people who get put on a pedestal and just because he's had some big scandals doesn't mean that he's been vetted properly. Allegations rarely come from NOTHING, usually there's a hint of something to bring out an accusation, otherwise they would be easily dismissed and never take hold. That idea is seen with Jake Paul and these other problematic YTers, too. There's some biiiiig skeletons hiding in his closet and I think he's hiding them by being "open" and "honest".
I think Pewdiepie is another example of someone who can't be criticized. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against him, but whenever anyone criticizes him for anything he's doing everyone loses their shit. Not just his fans either, the whole YT community since he's sort of the ambassador of YT. I don't think he has any skeletons or anything, but sometimes he does things that aren't great and you should be able to criticize him for them without being shunned.
Uh idubbbz
@@RealGermanish pewdiepie is criticised constantly for his actions and nobody gives a damn, some people defend him and others attach him. When outside parties start a smear campaign and straight up lie about what he did etc, that's when "everybody" on YT defend him, particularly because those campaigns aim to cripple TH-cam and youtubers that have almost no overhead and can have even more reach of the decading MSM
@@RealGermanish I'm not a fan of PewDiePie and don't hold his fan base (at least the stereotype of it) to a high regard, but I do still have to point out how he is constantly criticized both for his faults and things that are just warped to look like his fault. The reason he seems invincible is because of the amount of click baity garbage that targets him, basically forming a "boy who cried wolf" situation. When he was called a nazi, the people lost their faith in the WSJ, not in PewDiePie.
@@RealGermanish once i said i didnt like pewdiepie and i had strangers irl yelling at me
If Shane can't take criticism he needs to just ignore it instead of replying to these people on Twitter. He talked to Jake about power then kinda abused his own. a poor girl deleted her Twitter ffs, because his fans wouldn't stop going after her. That's my biggest issue atm
To be fair you can't blame Shane for the actions of other people who are his fans. He didn't tell them to attack the girl.
@SomethingReallyStrange Now that is just over-reaching. Shane isn't the sort of person who has a pack hound mentality and wants anything bad to happen to anyone. That is like saying if you have a child that murders someone that it's your fault because you had all the influence over that kid so you must have abused your power as a parent. That is just nonsense.
@@lindab424 That's one of the worst analogies I've ever seen. Shane isn't devoid of criticism because "his fans did it". That's not how it works or any of it works. Good for him if he doesn't have that mentality, but the intent is irrelevant. When you have such a huge following, you can't do whatever you want. Want to be an asshole? Everyone who follows you is also going to be an asshole. Do you see Pewdiepie or another big TH-camr do that? No, because they understand it and they aren't asshats.
You can't make a comment and say "It wasn't me, it was a fan." Keemstar gets shit on this all the time and rightfully so, but Shane gets a free pass? Fuck off. If people criticize him, he either takes it or he doesn't, answering those criticisms, and in a negative manner is the dumbest thing to do and it doesn't help Shane's case, at all.
@@Wyllowisp Whatever dude! At the end of the day everyone is responsible for their own actions. And you are wrong in your assumption that everyone who follows someone or is their fan is going to cross the line and copy their actions. I am a fan of Shane's but I didn't make any comments to that girl or about her on twitter or anywhere else for that matter. I firmly believe there was no ill intent on Shane's part. My understanding of the whole debacle was that Shane responded to the girls comment because she was worried about his health. What 'some' of his fans choose to do after he responded to the girl was their choice, not Shane's. If they choose to bully the girl with nasty comments then that is on them, they made the decision to do so. If they can't distinguish right from wrong you can't blame anyone else for it. You have your opinion and I have mine, end of discussion.
EXACTLY! I've brought this point up multiple times, and usually once I express my opinion on it, in a respectful manner, I get bombarded with insults from his fans. The girl who had to delete her Twitter didn't even do anything wrong. Poor girl.
That ending with the prediction of Shane Dawson ending his documentary series by confronting himself and his own controversies has aged so well now that Shane Dawson has suddenly become the center of so much new drama.
Oh god what did he do now
@@farrastaufiqurrazak9531 so much shady shit.
People called him out for acting like a child when he's a grown man,
He failed to deliver stuff and make up bs excuses for it
*ALLEGDLY* He and Jeffree pushed Tati into making the bye sister video
On a insta live thingy, tati said she was a victim of abuse (I can't remember her exact words but it was something horrible) and then shane called her a liar and manipulator only then to squeeze in the fact he molested as a child.
He also copied Jenna Marble's video about taking accountability which made him look sus and also made some people think he wasn't genuine about it.
I think that's it, that's all the stuff I heard anyways.
Farras TR Let’s not forget the beastiality, pedophilia, and all of the racist crap he did. And legit a/v evidence
Shane seems super manipulative and way too sensitive.
I think he wants to be liked. I relate to him a lot.
Idk maybe I'm a sociopath with empathy 🤣
Lily Frey if you have empathy you can’t be a sociopath stupidass. No wonder you’re a Shane fan, both stupid
@@_lil_lil well we can clearly see where you got your information on sociopaths
@@Gisellecollazo You missed the purposeful sarcastic contradiction there.
@@Gisellecollazo actually your the stupid one here. Go learn the difference between empathy and sympathy before you put someone down. Some sociopaths (and more prominently psychopaths) actually tend to score higher than average people in cognitive empathy. Infact empathetic pyschopaths are considered the most dangerous and severe out of all. Empathy is understanding someone's emotions and emotional situation.
You're thinking of sympathy. Both psychopaths and sociopaths lack all sympathy.
Oh and I'm not a Shane fan btw - I think it's pretty obvious he is an asshole
I just don't think he's confrontational enough to do these sort of 'documentaries'. 🤷♀️
I totally agree he does these documentaries out the good of his heart but he pussies away when encountered with criticism
You don't even have to be confrontational (see Louis Theroux), you just can't be as sensitive as Shane is, and sometimes you need to be willing to not try to be 100% impartial all of the time when people are very clearly in the wrong
It really pisses me off that Shane acts like he’s really poor or whatever when he’s actually hella privileged and financially well off
Emily Ball God Ikr, it's completely insulting to us poor people
his net worth is like $12 million ffs. the AVERAGE American's net worth is $692,100. THE AVERAGE. and he has the tenacity to talk about how poor he is. There are so many big celebrities that are worth way less than him. And some who are worth barley anymore than him.
Mystica Dude my net worth isn't even 600k 😭
Imo I dislike it as well, but I think he wants to try his hardest to stay humble and always being able to coincide with his fans since he did come from a background with a lot of financial struggle. But it only comes off as very domineering, and he still hasn’t learned people with loads of cash can’t act that way anymore.
i personally dont see it as a problem. hes stated before that he was brought up in a poor/not well off household and is used to that lifestyle. it shaped him into the person he is today, i dont see why he cant talk about it today just because he has more money now.
I appreciate your neutrality, but let's call it like it is.
Shane never gave a shit about making these people accountable for their actions. He wanted to ride the controversy waves to make money. He gave all these people an easy out, and did his best to pull away from the impact of these terrible people.
He's selfish. And he's greedy. He had a perfect position to shine real light on these things and genuinely make these people face their actions and have to justify things, not just to themselves, but their fans and Shane himself. Did he do that? No. He cashed in on the drama to get ahead.
Jake Paul is a blatantly abusive and dangerous person. Jeffree Starr made gross accusations against James Charles with no evidence. Tanna fleeced her fans for large sums of money, then delivered none of the things she promised. But in Shane's eyes, they're exonerated because they looked sad for a video.
These people put on a face for a living. None of the people in these documentaries are their real selves when the camera rolls. Shane got to see them at their most natural, but did nothing with it. He's a coward and deserves no platform, because all he does is excuse this behavior instead of making them confront it.
Yo I've never actually seen those clips with the kids. Just gave me bad feels. God forbid he actually has a kid one day.
Or another cat or a dog or a hamster or anything for that matter
Where are the other 7 parts?
Lmaooo
Khris my man!
My problem was more the way he subtley invalidated Jake Paul's ex friend (she's not his ex girlfriend, just his ex friend). It came across as very insensetive and biased
I think the biggest flaw in the series was that Shane did Jake's interview before Alissa Violet's.
Granted, it wasn't his fault. Alissa kept refusing to do the interview and only agreed to it 2 months later. So I think it would've been better to do Jake's interview again after the fact. It would also explain why Shane wasn't that hard on Jake or asking specific questions like how Alissa said Jake was bringing girls in to have sex w them for "networking purposes".
It was a mess
@@spectre9340 it really was. I had to stop watching after the episode with her because it upset me too much. I've had people try to convince me my abuser wasn't that bad or wasn't *really* abuse the way he did to her and it's disgusting to see it from someone claiming to be an empath
@@spirithawk6580 yeah it's so disappointing to see Shane keep siding with and supporting prpblematic people.
For example, this Halloween, Tana dressed up as a sexualized JoJo Siwa and Shane sided with Tana when she tried to "defend" herself and said that she wasn't trying to sexualize her friend despite showing off her bra, panties and legit captioning it "Hoe Hoe Siwa"
Shane needs to distance himself from toxic people who are bad influences
@@spectre9340 oof isn't JoJo like 15? That's pretty sketchy
Yeah Shane being an empath is his greatest strength but also his weakness
His ability to empathize for others means he can't cut toxic people off because he sees the good in them
“I merely adopted the algorithm”
-Bane Dawson
Brilliant
"He didnt see it until he was a man, but even then it was nothing but blinding."
O lo pidió
I always wondered in this series why Erika was painted as an amazing person. Tell me if I’m wrong, but didn’t she get with Jake as soon as Alyssa got kicked out of team 10? Erika and Alyssa were apparently besties, but how could you get with your friends ex?....I thought that was so weird and wasn’t ever touched on. That doesn’t strike me as something someone who is amazing does.
Lol you are still on that stage? None of their "relationships" really matter. it's all drama for the kids. It's for money.
alyssa and jake never actually dated!
Lol. Yes. Considering Alissa cried on her shoulder every night about Jake and his whoring. Then Erica dives in and thinks she changed this guy?! L.m.a.o. Erika got what she deserved. Shane's series made Erika seem like the angel who tamed Jake. I could see Erika was basking in that and Jake played along but was always that same dirty dog. As for those people who say that Alissa and Jake weren't really dating, well there were some pretty dang hurt feelings for 2 people that never dated. Regardless of what either Jake or Alissa say...Jake wouldn't have been so devastated that Logan slept with his girl...if she wasn't his girl. Flip it around. Alissa knew the best way to hurt Jake was to sleep with Logan. There were very very deep feelings there, regardless of what either of them say. That hurt Jake to his core (still does, I know he was in love with her) and he deserved it. With time and experience you guys will see how sick the Alissa/Jake dynamic was. She loved him so much it hurt. He played the nice guy then pushed her away...funny enough, this was all done by Jake to keep her weak and HIS regardless what he did. Erika though? Shes a skeezy no talent bitch. It will be interesting to see what her "career" does now. I mean, have you heard her music? 😟🤯🤢🤮💩💩💩💩💩💩💩🙉 Sidenote: Alissa is a natural. A natural beauty a natural energy that you can't stop watching. You can't fill your face with Botox and be her Erka. There was/is zero comparison.
they broke up too lmao
@@kkittycatkat1990 Thank you for saying this. This is 100% true
From July 2020, this analysis seems altogether, far too generous...
THANK YOU FOR SAYING THIS!!!! People are too scared so much of the time to say anything bad about him.
I’ve been a long time fan of him, but since his documentary type videos and the new conspiracy videos started happening, his genuine nature went away. Drew stopped posting, Garrett became totally someone to laugh at in his videos, Morgan joined... Morgan’s nice, but I wish she didn’t replace Drew. I’m pretty sure Drew’s depressed again and that’s what’s going on.
Anyway, the documentary-style videos showing up now are a good idea, he just isn’t being himself anymore and it’s really disappointing as a long time fan. Every moment is played to be more emotional and stuff. It’s just. Really disappointing.
Drew left oit if choice
Shane has the worst taste in people. Like, Kiro the wolf, jake Paul, tana, Ryland, etc... Shane’s content may be “higher quality” to some people, but honestly I think his old videos were better because he wasn’t pretending to be something he’s not. I don’t believe he has it in him to make serious content, he doesn’t care enough about the problems surrounding the people he’s made videos of.
I miss Drew so much, he’s such a gentle and sensitive person. I really hope he is doing well.
He uploaded a song on his music channel today and it made my day.
I don't know much about Shane, but I'm curious - what's Ryland done?
@@tacocatseven Yeah, what did Ryland do? Honestly curious; the only internet sin I know of him committing is making forgettable cut-and-paste vlogs.
@SomethingReallyStrange That makes sense, I suppose. Thanks for filling me in.
I really wish I had an opinion on this but at this point I’m just a bit bored of Shane’s content and it doesn’t feel genuine to his character, or at least the persona he built for himself. But if that’s how I feel then I won’t watch it and that’s fine .
Lemme grab a few buckets of popcorn 🙃 I thought the series was just a few hours of clickbait for money. Shane can't do an objective take on the subject and he can't take criticism. Nerd City packed more points and proof in a single video than Shane did in his series.
I don't think he ever set out to be purely objective. It's on his channel called "Shane", the videos start with his reactions to making the series...of course this was just as much about him as it was JP
Nerd city is the shizznit
my friend u might want to do an update of this please. Because of shanes scandal that has popped up this june 2020. youtube demonitized all 3 of his channels.
Shane Dawson's content has always been trash, from day one until today. I will never understand how he's popular.
Michelle Hernandez I liked his videos with garret and drew
Michelle Hernandez I liked his conspiracy vids but even then I can understand why there was a lawsuit with the Chuck E cheese situation
I'm just disturbed by how in most of his series (especially his JP and JS ones) he just behaves like he completely lacks a spine. I get that you shouldn't outright critique those you are interviewing, but asking some more damning questions without that entire package of crawling up their ass would have come across as much more genuine.
Also the fact that we never actually get any of the answers that we want from these series. It always plays the 'oh different perspectives, different stories. Everybody takes a little bit of blame' card. Just like, can you not?
TRO could record himself reading the instructions manual for a dishwasher for 2 hours and I'd be hooked on every word
I honestly can't understand why Shane Dawson is so popular, to me he's one of the most disingenuous person ever. He often dramatize subjects, and manipulate his audience with melodramatic edit.
What triggered me the most is when people criticize him for the "psychopath" video, he defend himself by saying he's only trying to make the video more interesting, so more people would watch it. This really pisses me off, you can't fabricate information for attention! Nor can you manipulate your audience for your own standpoint of the matter!
Let say *if* he actually raised awareness on Psychopathy, a real mental disorder, what's next? Now millions of young viewers will believe psychopaths are everywhere, and they're dangerous, disgusting, and pitiful. *The "awareness" you successfully raised is false!* As someone who has Clinical Depression, I appreciate if people can get more understanding or tolerance to mental illness, but Shane's audiences most likely will give people like me nothing but fear or patronization, and that's wrong!
Preach 👏👏
He is popular because he is one of the "Grandfather youtubers" which is someone who has been on the platform since the beginning
i think its because hes genuine to some extent that he doesnt really give a fuck, doesnt take himself too seriously, sways between all of the sides so he doesnt really offend any parties. And to be honest he did feel genuine, especially with his gay theme and like ha ha ha jokes. He opened up to everyone and we basically saw him grow up. But now, now hes different. He feels dramatic and diplomatic, he feels fake as fuck, that hes just trying to please everyone and make everyone "happy". Its a very fine line when it comes to being genuinely nice and pretending to be for alternative reasons
@@TwiCaCaX I think he tries very hard to be genuine which in itself is disingenuous. Like when he walks into Jake's house he starts acting surprised that Jake has expensive clothing, and acting impressed/excited about it. He does these sorts of things to be more relatable to his audience, but his reaction to a Jake's stuff makes no sense. Shane is rich as fuck and probably has all the same shit, but he does shit like this to make himself seem like the average person so he's more relatable. I think that's what makes him very disingenuous.
I remember after the jake Paul video came out a girl I knew who watched Shane spent like five minutes ranting about how the video opened her eyes to how many sociopaths she knew in her life and how she knew so many sociopaths and I was like “...something’s not right here”
My main issue with shane is that 95% of his lines are just the same repetitive self deprecation jokes. Its honestly getting annoying.
And this year he made a "documentary" that was an ad for his makeup collab. Then cut it short after he made millions from sales because he was tired and lost in how to finish it. He's manipulative.
Thank you I didn't even finish it after part four and I had stopped watching him after that because that whole vibe just pissed off especially since he didn't talk about the drama that was brought up in the beginning of the trailer really got on my nerves
It’s beyond the point where Shane can plead ignorance, with power should come responsibly. Mental health is finally in the public eye for good or for bad at very least it strikes conversation. Grossly misdefining a condition when you have a large following is the problem because others may take that at face value. With such a large following the amount of influence he has over his audience shouldn’t be taken lightly. When the DSM5 website clearly outlines sociopathy without emotional bias, being one computer search away, it could have set him up with a base understanding enough so the very definition wasn’t botched nor tainted (by separating facts and feelings). Feeding the stigma is sending us all backwards as this is what caused the ongoing mistreatment, you are no longer a person you are a problem. Lastly, in relation to anyone there is no excuse to be an arsehole.
Person with diagnosed sociopathy here. Shut the fuck up and stop being offended for us. We don't need you all to be offended for us. We aren't offended. You all are the ones working this up and getting angry. Not actual sociopaths like me. You. People without sociopathy. So, shut the fuck up. Sincerely, every sociopath that's sick of people like you using us as comment fodder then promptly throwing us back in the trash.
@@annathompson2399 you're just one anecdote tho. plus you seemed to defensive in several comments lmao
Sonic Neverslow - except I’ve seen several people with anti-social personality disorder speaking up and being “offended” as well as many others with mental illnesses saying something bc it affects the rest of us too
@@annathompson2399 i got ASPD and i hared his videos , they mix the term sociopath and psychopath plus forget to tell people its a spectrum plus implying they lack all empathy when one can feel empathy but its more as rationalized empathy depending on the individuals point of view. Also ignoring how sociapths are made and psychopaths are born, it was fucking disgusting not because its offensive but because he had the audacity of confusing them in a already made video. With just a little editing and research he could have cut that out but no it gives more and more fire to the "omg sociopaths and psychopaths are scawwy ohhh " and now his whole audience is misinformed and that can make one want to beat someones face and it would be justified
I find Shane Dawson videos hilariously lacking in self awareness. He’s not a competent or interesting person and the fact that someone so bland can get popular would be hilarious if it wasn’t equally depressing.
And the whole approach to sociopathy really annoyed me. I have antisocial personality disorder, and it isn’t like being a robot. It’s like being colorblind, you have trouble intuiting emotions.
@@nullanon5716 Saying people with APD are robotic because they have trouble working up emotions, is like saying someone with Aspergers can't interact with anyone at all, just because they have trouble conceptualizing social ques
Also the fact that Shane left all the "gross" comments in the final cut is fucking nasty
Fuck Shane
I love reading such dumb opinions of people who hate Shane for no reason. Y'all just flock on every negative video to circle-jerk.
@@annathompson2399 jesus, it's like you didn't even fucking read what we said.
I personally am physically incapable of taking Shane seriously. I don't know. I've heard Americans tend to overreact to things but with him, it's so cartoony! "OMg Jeffree is rich, even though I already knew he was I didn't know he was rich. OMg, He has a big business? even though it was already public knowledge and I even mentioned it earlier it so shocking to see a warehouse full of boxes! OMG! he even breathes!!!". So fucking ridiculous. I also despise that in both docu-series about Jeffree and Jake he spent so much time just showing people's houses around. I think he manipulates his audience a lot. All the "OMG i am shaking, he actually drinks water" moments are here to make the audience feel the same, all the fascination for their "crazy rich people lives" are here to put the person he is talking about on a pedestal and impress the audience. It's all, very obvious framing.
That's why I can't take him seriously, he sounds very fake to me. I don't know him personally but it's difficult to picture someone actually acting like this all the time. TH-camrs have personas, even the ones who pretend to be "true" have personas and some unconsciously let their persona influence their real self. Maybe that's what is happening with Shane.
Also, this whole docu-series about Jake was just a PR move, all the parties involved did it for money. Jake wanted to restore his image so he accepted to participate in a series that literally portrayed him as a victim, especially a victim of his family so that he can distance himself from his brother's fascination for dead bodies. Shane was in it for the money, that's why he never tried to really challenge Jake. The second Jake started to get angry about the questions about his business, Shane literally stopped filming! Maybe he is also a nice person, who does sympathize with people very easily, but I also have the feeling that somewhere in his mind all his moves are calculated for money. He may not even admit it to himself because his persona merged with his real self or something, but the the nice, genuine, kinda dumb and naive guy he is in his video is a facade. I am kinda 75 % sure he is. But I am just a dumb emoji on the internet, not a psychologist 😝
I don't know if this aged well or didn't age well.
Maybe it aged like wine, just not the one that's supposed to age
It's blursed
I think it’s fine, just ONLY for his documentary series and why it has deep issues, but it’s not actually in addressing Shane’s past and how it casts his documentaries as being even more manufactured and problematic.
But I agree, the ending is bad
the mix of people commenting 'this aged well' and 'this didn't age well' is interesting to see lol
Oh boy did this age well
TRO...
We want you to revisit this subject, the subject of Shane, uh....the current train wreck that is Shane. With your very eloquent way of speaking of course.
Agreed.
He’s obviously under no obligation and shouldn’t feel thusly but I’m not sure this has aged as well as people are speculating tbh...
I think he should wait until shane makes his comeback
as other people mentioned Shane completely invalidated Alissa and kind of made her say that she was just as guilty which i disagree with because how does sleeping with one person equate to the other person sleeping with other people nonstop and even telling the other person about it.
And the saddest part is other youtubers like Inabber bought into this which is ...just a big no for me.
Which show's how much of Jake's manipulation has impacted Shane's sympathy and made him manipulative as well
seriously not to be rude but
>shane
>sympathetic
whos gonna tell em...
@Savage Cabbage he wasn't her ex. They never dated
@Savage Cabbage jake and alissa both said they never dated. They were just friends and fuck buddies. But Jake was fucking a bunch of other girls and telling Alissa to stick around anyways. She never belonged to Jake.
Savage Cabbage you’re gross. I bet no one want to touch you in real life 🤢🤮
Savage Cabbage because I liked a video by a TH-camr with the click bait title “I’m ugly and insecure” ...that somehow means that I am ugly and insecure 🤔🤨oh honey no😂😭 that’s probably the saddest comeback ive seen in a while. Nice try though, I guess 🤣
When Jake was making the babies cry my maternal instincts went into overdrive and I don't have kids.
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Where are there parents? How are they ok with their infants being apart of the team 10 house?
same
I really love that guy who just, swooped in and picked up the baby and said "Its a baby!" Someone is sane in that damn hell hole.
He was the baby's dad, so I sure hope he did.
why would you even bring your toddler into that house in the first place..
HOW IS NO ONE TALKING ABOUT THE CHILD ABUSE WTFFFF, IM SHOCKED. HOW DID THAT NOT END HIM
Two 40 minute videos within the past week or so? You spoil us so
Fancy Snake We are blessed by his grace
Knowing that a Kuroshitsuji fan watches The Right Opinion gives me new hope for the fan base
One hell of an arrogant ass Well someone’s gotta save the fandom, and I sure as Hell don’t know why it’s me 😂
@@CielPhantomhive-qk3ee It's your calling, search your feelings you know it to be true.
You and Fancy Snake are destined to save us all.
One hell of an arrogant ass
Long ago, the four ships lived together in harmony. Then, everything changed when the SebaClaude Ship attacked. Only the Kuro-TRO fans, master of all four ships, could stop them, but when the world needed him most, he vanished. A hundred years passed and my brother and I discovered the new Kuro-TRO fans, including a deleted warrior named “Fancy Snake”
This aged like fine, fine wine ;)
Inside The Mind Of Ben Shapiro
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Who's that?
Just imagine the salt
this comment doesn't care about your feelings
I think now more than ever is a time to revisit Shane
What did he do now?
@@farrastaufiqurrazak9531 he apparently *really* likes animals and children. 🙄
so when's part 2
Question: Does anyone think it is possible that Shane was paid to do the Jake Paul series? After watching this video along with Film Theory's videos, I realized it may be a possibility.
I think it could be a possibility however I think it's more of Shane seeing this as a chance to appeal to the newer, more current TH-camrs' audience like Jake's and Tana. I understand he has his own dedicated fanbase and he's been on this platform for the longest, but the way I see it is sort of like how you get a chance to sit at the "cool kids'" table and you use that chance to get in on their good sides so you're liked more buy everyone else.
It could be a mix of both but the possibility you brought up somehow makes me sadder to think Shane would take the money defending a bully like Jake than doing the opposite and not spit in the face of his fans.
@@ambieee That is a good point. I have noticed Shane expanding his range of viewers through collaborations (like he has been doing with the beauty community for a while). Maybe he is just trying to get the views from younger kids.
I do think, however that Jake benefited from the series way more than Shane. (He got a redemption arc, and is way more relevant than he has been these past few months. The Pauls have not been in the limelight as much as they were in 2017). That's what makes me think Shane had another motive.
@@ambieee all of tanas fans have been shanes fans. He did the jake series because it interested him
I don't understand why people dont understand that MOST LIKELY is what happened....its TH-cam its a business. These people have managers, producers, camera and sound people, etc so why does everyone act like this is still 2013 TH-cam?
@@trashbasket11 Very true. Jake Paul's channel is especially business-like, since he is backed by investors, does brand deals for 7 digits, and actually takes a percentage of the earnings from his "clients"
Shane Dawson's face scares me. It looks too... like he's ready to break out crying any second. The eyes just pop out...
Hmm, very interesting and constructive criticism
Jenny G indeed
Thats part of the show dude.
He is a great actor. send him to hollywood
At last! Someone addressing the real issues!
OH GOD UR RIGHT
Wonder what your opinion would be with all of the recent events
Shane's clear priority of having everyone like him is why he cannot be a legitimate 'reporter' or ever present a valid expose. The whole point of reporting on a person or character is using facts and being impartial, and above all to never let yourself be swayed by the person you claim to be investigating. But Shane wants to be liked, both by the subject and audience. This seems to give him a powerful fear of confrontation that lethally undermines any journalistic integrity he might have. So instead of addressing real issues, or calling people out on the very real shit they've done/are doing, he plays nice to make everything bright and flowery in an attempt to make everyone get along. That kind of attempt to downplay the real story and cover everything in a neat blanket will always hold his content back from being worthwhile or 'real', and at its worst is damaging and makes Shane himself an enabler of the subjects' behaviour.
And that's not to speak of the glaring issues of an interviewer using the behaviours of their subjects as a way of self-diagnosing. That should be an enormous red flag, covered in red alarms, flown behind a red 747.
Glettification I agree with everything you said...yet, these children think he deserves a Netflix deal 🙄
I wish I could like this more than once, very articulatly put!
IMO the “therapist” Shane interviewed in the beginning ruined the narrative. Sociopaths/psychopaths (they’re both colloquial words used to refer to people with ASPD) are just as varied and individual as empaths (non-sociopathic/“”normal”” people). The only differences are that sociopaths don’t feel empathy, remorse, or compassion. There are certain archetypes within that diagnosis that are common, such as the charismatic sociopath or the flat, emotionless psychopath, but there are differences between every person who fits the diagnosis, because they’re people. The “therapist” in this doc made it seem like sociopaths are cartoonish monsters that are pure evil, but they’re not. They’re often quite likable and it can be incredibly difficult to tell when the compassion they display is manufactured. The “therapist” kind of led Shane to believe that if he asked a sociopath whether or not they were a sociopath, they would, I don’t know, cackle and set some puppies on fire. Many sociopaths don’t even know or don’t want to believe they are sociopaths. The whole potential danger of them is that they can blend in to society really well and people LOVE a charismatic sociopath. Shane had this imagine of a monster under the bed wearing Jake Paul’s skin so instead of conducting any analysis that would be at all worthwhile he just looked for a zipper and went home when he realized Jake is just a person when the fact that Jake is just a person is what makes him so dangerous. Not saying for sure he’s a sociopath but Shane’s doc didn’t give anyone any reason to believe he’s not, plus it fed a bunch of people serious misinformation that leaves them way more open to manipulation from an actual sociopath. Anywhere from 1/100 to 1/50 people meet the diagnostic criteria for some degree of sociopathy, depending on which studies you look at. You’ve known sociopaths. You’ve probably liked them. Shane Dawson seems to surround himself with them.
Just because a few people may meet up to some symptoms, does not mean that they are diagnosed with it. It’s actually incredibly rare. Just like empaths (if that’s what you want to call them) are incredibly rare.
while there are other things to critique on the series, my biggest issue was Shane's lack of knowledge on sociopaths/people with anti-social personality disorder. Like, cool he got a therapist to help him out to make it seem more "legit" and help explain/learn about it - but as she said in one of the videos, it's not her area of expertise and while it may have been hard to, he should have found someone who was an expert (or just not go down that route at all seeing that he barely even sticked to it).
The "therapist" part was such an overblown, sensationalistic, ridiculous joke that smelled of hack who glued on the "therapist" title to look more legit. No real therapist who wants to stay in business and wants to be taken serious makes such blatant arm-chair diagnosis. The whole scene of her embellishing in "Jake being a sociopath" and Shane's over-played reaction felt like two kids telling each other ghost stories to scare the shit out each other.
@@amberbaum4079 Shane said it was a very long conversation but he only kept the parts he thought were the most dramatic and interesting so, not entirely her fault. She did say she was not an expert
@@Firegirl483 Yea, she said that, but then she still went through with it, still tried to "diagnose" Jake on the fly, still called "sociopaths" "gross", "icky", and generally framed them as some kinds of horror movie monsters or serial killers. If she was out of her depth, which she admitted, she should've shown some self-awareness instead of making blatant claims like that... It was so unprofessional, to say the least.
Look like TRO fell for Shane’s “good guy” act too.
Didn't we all?
@@sdajhgf no
sdajhgf honestly. I didn’t. I really even tried to like him (everyone seems to love the guy!) but I found him so phony and pushing the “look at me I’m so relatable!” shtick... it was fishy to me. But I’m hella cynical so who knows. 🤷♀️
I kinda did. I fucking hate his content, but I did watched one of his video, when he just did stupid stuff with his friends. Like, I understand why he was likable at least (to be fair I didn't watch all of his content and didn't know his "I'm poor" shtick or other annoying jokes). I just can't believe why a LOT of people watch his "docus" to begin with. And Bobby Burns... I think that's the moment I hate Shane
@@darkdemonqueen Cynics unite! Let's feel smarter than the masses of 12 years olds and gullible morons that supported "celebrities" (read: giant-ass shills).
pov: you're in the comments a year later looking for the "this aged like fine wine" comments
Current Shane situation definitely warrants a part two or update of this video
the way jake paul treated children really disgusted me, i could never feel sympathy for him. this can all lead to Deep rooted Traumas for These Children.
I didn't actually have a lot of huge problems with the series itself, beside the ending episodes where he's quite obviously overly defending him and handing him answers and going super easy on him. I didn't rly have an issue with the drama or sociopath angle. My biggest problem is the way he responded to criticisms from people, egging his fans to continue attacking people he cursed out after deleting his own comments toward them. Liking the comments of people saying the person his fans are attacking "deserved it." He's been around long enough to know that gives his fanbase more fuel to do those things. And he should know better than to respond to random mild criticisms telling people to "Fuck off." and stuff. Not to mention he outright just showed his bias on twitter saying Jake is "like family" to him. It shows he doesn't want people to take any negative opinion from his series and exactly how he wants people to respond to it, and any other criticism doesn't fit the narrative. He knows the power he has over his fans, he knows how the internet works and that not everyone will like everything he does and that's no excuse to respond to mild and non-attacking criticisms that aren't being harmful to him by attacking the person and then encouraging his fans to do it in his stead once he deletes his replies. It also shows that no one is allowed to have criticisms because he feels Jake is his family which is kinda super fucked.
The series was fine as entertainment, I didn't expect anything ground-breaking (despite him marketing it that way) though I feel editing the parts in real time made it a bit of a mess. I understand being overly empathetic because i'm the same way and I did feel bad for Jake in some parts for his family life and such. But glossing over the actual negative things he's done and using that as an excuse isn't okay, and then attacking people who criticise you in reasonable ways isn't okay. I can sympathise with having a moment of weakness and repsonding to a comment, but to continue liking comments attacking the person isn't okay. And I can tell he put a lot of time and love into the series and I know seeing criticisms must hurt, but after doing this for so long he will drive himself into the ground if he still can't compartmentalise and take the constructive criticisms and see if they apply and leave the shitty ones on the side of the road because that's not healthy. Criticisms if the price of fame, unfortunately. I still like Shane and am not gonna stop watching all of his content but this series and the aftermath were just kind of a mess.
I agree with you on most of these things. As someone who isn't a fan of his to begin with (simply not my type of content)I found the series as an entertaining show filled with funny funnies. I've never thought of it as anything special until I actually saw how he advertised it, it was completely different to what I saw while watching the series. Like most of the vloggers that I've seen, I couldn't care any less about what was to happen to them after they do something quite controversial. I usually just chalk it up to clickbait and people one upping each other.
TL:DR : I don't care. They're all probably just building a business using what they know will get views simply from the controversy, hell the editing in the first few episodes along with the goofs was enough to hook me in.
On second thought though, I feel as if Shane completely forgot (on purpose or not) the supposed "goal" of the docu-series was to show Jake's mistakes to him so that he can actually change.... but then I realized that the point of it all was just to borrow Shane's image to repair Jake's image. Its just a thought though.
the way he responds to criticism is really pathetic, i responded to criticism more maturely than he ever has when i was seven
Ironically I think YOU were way too soft on Shane. Maybe that was the point?
No, he just stated facts. Not overdramatized angry insults like everyone on Twitter does. This is how an ADULT criticizes. He doesn't go on Twitter and call Shane racist for doing a docuseries.
Sonic Neverslow Your brain is undeveloped and your terrible grammar shows it
Yeah, I think so too but, at least he criticized Shane a little bit. It's not much but, it's leagues better than the rest of youtube that speaks of him as though he is perfect and a beacon of hope.
Edit: it's not bacon, it's beacon
@@annathompson2399 Facts? He spent the first 10 minutes talking about amazing Dawson is, agreed to Dawson bias against people with sociopathic tendencies (despite the Better Help episode), and basically gave Dawson every excuse in the world. Essentially doing the exact same he said Dawson is accused of .
@@lookatthiscutekittyc2903 bacon of hope is so much more fitting than beacon lmao
Let’s tell it like it is, Shane is deeply annoying. I believe his caring and emphatic personality is fake. I don’t buy it for a second.
Good call lol
Interesting to watch now when he's being like, double cancelled.
honestly what disgusts me most about shane is his whole pity thing. like, the manipulation is so blatant when he tslks about how insecure he is. not to mention his 'i'm poor' schtick, which is disgusting and insulting.
Fr he lives in a mansion and has a 12 million net worth and he says he’s poor mean while I’m eating dollor store hotdogs with the end piece of white bread
i never liked him
his vids back a few years ago were all some weird parodies/sketches/songs that had some disgusting s**** in 'em
never found those funny
and then he switched to vlogging or whatever and they were really boring
i couldnt watch the recent jake paul stuff either or his tana mangeau vid
too long,too heavily dramatized,seems always superficial
Who’s watching in July 2020
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Last day of July 2020!
My guy was waaaaaaay ahead of the curve
I think doing the documentary when Shane Dawson started defending Jake Paul. He has been compromised in terms of what he was supposed to be doing it came to the documentary.
Also you know if a documentary objective is to prove the person is a sociopaths it's a pretty low bar in my opinion to not hit.
Can you say that again in a way that actually makes sense?
@@meganh7829 shane has already pick sides by the time he recorded his interview with alyssa and picking sides is already a bad thing if you're making a documentary
Shane Dawson defending the Paul Brothers (for being sociopaths) is one of the many reasons why he would ve overrated as hell. At this rate, I seem to be changing my mind on whom I would love to cast as Greywood from Basebrawl, in fact, I might even cast Mat Brunet aka ElectricDragon505 as Greywood i stead of Shane Daeson if Shane Dawson is actually rudely desperate in real life.
But all documentaries are biased. That's why we have to use critical thinking skills
God those clips of Jake Paul making babies cry made me really mad. I hate when people do that.
Same here. It's disgusting.
Ahh, algorithms. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
"This series will draw to a close with shane confronting himself."
well. that aged well.
Shane has an amazing talent of getting people to feel sorry for him while he manipulates like the rest of them
This aged like fine wine
TRO was ahead of his time.
TH-cam recommending this video to me in summer 2020
A good documentary maker doesn't involve themselves in the documentary, it's entirely about the subject. Need I say more?
To be honest i prefered shane as the guy who did funny videos but i feel like he lost his funny bone, thank goodness brandon rogers has taken that torch because he does what shane could've taken his comedy to.
Just want to clarify sociopathy and psychopathy arent inherently evil in nature, some sure do like opening up and eating other people or having intercourse with their severed heads but there is also another tale to the story. Those who "suffer". Such as not feeling empathy, making it hard to connect to people who emotionally hurt others by accident, sociopaths are people too and they too operate on some basis. Just like how not every muslim is a boomber, not every sociopath is insane or a kller
I think the biggest mistake is Shane believing that his thing is being serious.
Is not. His thing is humor, and laughing about dark stuff.
I love all the stupid things he does, all of those overreactions, because it makes me laugh even if my day has been bad as hell.
He's good at that.
But not at this docuseries. He needs to be able to take criticism to do it, and he's not.
I want him to go back to the funny stuff. For his content to be mostly humor with serious stuff thrown in between instead of the opposite.
I agree. I absolutely loved watching his random content.
yea i liked when he would just sit in front of the camara and do something while talking about stuff and being funny. then once in awhile he would do a conspiracy video to get a lil more serious. it was better then and i miss that shane content
I agree. I love his jokes and comedy and how his comments can just make your day and make you happy.
Can we please get a 2021 Shane Dawson video... you know after well everything 😬
I hope you continue responding to comments, I truly do.
I think Shane thinks a bit too much of himself considering all he has done and while his production value is extremely high quality, he himself is far from that standard. Hes a bit naive, especially in the way he views conspiracy theories and the way he "studies" them and presents them to his audience, its either surface level or he steers clear of the more controversial sides to them.
Shane is the centerpiece of his channel so I guess if you dont appreciate him you cant appreciate his channel, which is my case. I do enjoy the way TRO presented Shane and I guess I respect how wholesome he is even if it might be him willingly ignoring flaws to push the "wholesome" narrative and how he wants to better himself as shown by how he handled Jake Paul.
This is my opinion and I do admit to being a bit uninformed on the subject of Shane Dawson ( a bit less now thanks to this video ).
Yeah but it's easy to pick apart content that someone has made in a day or a matter of days...can we really compare this to what we are used to on TV where people work on documentaries for months, maybe years? If anything we should be criticising the format
@craisins 86 im surprised people still take him seriously after that
Hmmm wonder why this year old video got reccomended to me NOW 🤔
Wow, you were here a year ago, showing us the mask, and we completely missed it 😶 opp-...
This aged well...
😳 youtube is shady, recommending this
The way I see it, Shane might be looking for someone like himself; someone who can provide for him what he does for other people. Idk I just find that I get a spur where I'm eager to listen to other people's problems and try and offer advice or simply be there for 'em. But once that's all done, I feel hollow. I feel angry sometimes actually, like I will willingly listen to others, but nobody will listen to me- and it's not the same to just lay all your shit on someone else. Some things just can't be solved with a simple explanation as you stated, he doesn't fully understand why he still feels depressed at times and there's no point just telling someone "I feel like shit" because there's nothing they can do. Now I'm definitely just projecting, but his journey for self discovery is inspiring
I definitely feel this sometimes. Like you're the cheerleader for everyone else, but then who will be your cheerleader? I wouldn't be surprised if this is what Shane is looking for.
Shane slapped his old fans in the face with these series, he just keeps worrying about views AND SAYING OH IDC ABOUT VIEWS I ONLY HAVE A,SHIRT N EAT TACO BELL OMFG I CANT BELIEVE HOW SOMEONE CAN BE SO UNGRATEFUL