Fantastic info about nested keywords. I think this is one of the most fantastic keyword-courses that is posted on TH-cam. This is just what I needed from biology where one specific bird species are nested into birds that are vertebrates that are animals. But I did not know about this "will export"-function. Thank you, thank you. Maybe you should drop place/region/country as an examlpe, since there is specific metadata-fields for this type of information.
Thanks for this Wayne. Keywords in Lightroom are simple once you know about them but it is very difficult to find out what effect some of those checkboxes might have! When you have tens of thousands of pics, a misunderstanding could lead to a lot of heartache. This is the best explanation I have seen so far.
Dear Wayne, thank you for doing this tutorial. I am just a weekend warrior trying to organize my family photos and your video was simple, clear, and easy to understand. Will save me lots of time and frustration! Thank you.
Thank you very much for this informative video. I will be moving my massive keyword list into a much better and shorter hierarchal grouping to improve my organization.
Excellent video on setting up a keyword hierarchy. I never learned how to keyword properly on my old computer and my photos are a mess. I have a new computer now so I will take my time as I add my photos to the LR catalog. Thanks very much.
I was scrolling through the youtube search looking for a tutorial on how to do the keywording, skipping the first 4 minutes I found the information I was looking for, thank you.
I'm creating a keywords list based on the 'Lightroom Keyword List Project'. I have a couple of questions that I hope you can help me with: 1. How would you categorize "things" that fall somewhat between "WHAT" and "WHERE"? For example, mountains and lakes. A mountain may be present in two photos taken from completely different locations, which seems redundant to label in each instance (and leads to my next question). Categorizing them as "WHAT" creates confusion for smaller items, such as a hot spring or geyser. These items can't be present in photos shot from elsewhere, but technically, you're not at a geyser, you're seeing one. 2. Can the same keyword exist in two different hierarchies?
sry to take so long. to me any”thing” that is not a place is a what or thing. That might be broken down by subcategory, and perhaps some of those might be important enough place at the top category on it’s own.. Maybe you would use a keyword of geologic, and inside of that you would put things like mountains, springs, streams, cliffs, geyser, etc. Yes the same keyword can exist inside of any hierarchies. If you search for that keyword, it will show you everywhere It occurs inside of the respective hierarchy. For example I have shots of bridal veil falls in provo as well as the one in Yosemite. So that keyword occurs inside both of the places hierarchy of both locations.
This was very helpful. I wonder how you would recommend organizing other "types" of words beyond places, things and people. Example - mood, or specific picture themes for abstract pics as an example.
I have a top level category in my things labeled mood, and several keywords in that I attach to some images based on the mood. As far as abstract, I do have a single keyword in things called abstract which some images are attached to (don't do a lot of abstract work). You could certainly add more descriptive names to types of abstract under that.
@@cwaynefox Thank you Wayne. I've rewatched your video a few times now. I'm realizing it will take some thought to figure out the proper hierarchy. The "Thing" one is the most complicated one I find as it is so wide.
I agree that taming your keyword list is essential, and what I looked for. I wonder why so many videoes of keywords still put location information in keywords. It is meant to be placed in other places of metadata (city, sublocation, country), and "aspect ratio" you will get from EXIF. But as I said, it is still more than enough keywords left to grow that list way too long. My problem is related to adding systematic hierachy to animals, birds, plants etc. so it was still good help
you can't build a location hierarchy using the location field of the metadata. Also some places strip most of the metadata, but they usually leave keywords alone. Also finding things via keywords for me is easier. So I stick to using keywords.
@@cwaynefox I agree about that LR do not understand location hierarchy. I included in my argument for using these metadata for location that the user remember the hierarchy herself/himself, or watch it as it appear in the metadata, since it will show the overall location/state/region/country for any sublocation I have added.
Fantastic info about nested keywords. I think this is one of the most fantastic keyword-courses that is posted on TH-cam. This is just what I needed from biology where one specific bird species are nested into birds that are vertebrates that are animals. But I did not know about this "will export"-function. Thank you, thank you. Maybe you should drop place/region/country as an examlpe, since there is specific metadata-fields for this type of information.
Thanks for this Wayne. Keywords in Lightroom are simple once you know about them but it is very difficult to find out what effect some of those checkboxes might have! When you have tens of thousands of pics, a misunderstanding could lead to a lot of heartache.
This is the best explanation I have seen so far.
I am doing this right now. This will be life-changing for my design projects as I use lightroom to manage them.
Dear Wayne, thank you for doing this tutorial. I am just a weekend warrior trying to organize my family photos and your video was simple, clear, and easy to understand. Will save me lots of time and frustration! Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you very much for this informative video. I will be moving my massive keyword list into a much better and shorter hierarchal grouping to improve my organization.
Extremely good and clearly explained Wayne. Thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it
Excellent video on setting up a keyword hierarchy. I never learned how to keyword properly on my old computer and my photos are a mess. I have a new computer now so I will take my time as I add my photos to the LR catalog. Thanks very much.
Glad it was helpful!
I was scrolling through the youtube search looking for a tutorial on how to do the keywording, skipping the first 4 minutes I found the information I was looking for, thank you.
Glad I could help!
This is amazing keyword information. Thank you so much!!!
Thanks. I appreciate the kind words. Sry it took so long to reply.
I'm creating a keywords list based on the 'Lightroom Keyword List Project'. I have a couple of questions that I hope you can help me with:
1. How would you categorize "things" that fall somewhat between "WHAT" and "WHERE"? For example, mountains and lakes. A mountain may be present in two photos taken from completely different locations, which seems redundant to label in each instance (and leads to my next question). Categorizing them as "WHAT" creates confusion for smaller items, such as a hot spring or geyser. These items can't be present in photos shot from elsewhere, but technically, you're not at a geyser, you're seeing one.
2. Can the same keyword exist in two different hierarchies?
sry to take so long. to me any”thing” that is not a place is a what or thing. That might be broken down by subcategory, and perhaps some of those might be important enough place at the top category on it’s own.. Maybe you would use a keyword of geologic, and inside of that you would put things like mountains, springs, streams, cliffs, geyser, etc.
Yes the same keyword can exist inside of any hierarchies. If you search for that keyword, it will show you everywhere It occurs inside of the respective hierarchy. For example I have shots of bridal veil falls in provo as well as the one in Yosemite. So that keyword occurs inside both of the places hierarchy of both locations.
Excellent and well-described video.
Excellent, thank you, you have been a great help
Very helpful.
Excellent.Thank you.
Thx.
This was very helpful. I wonder how you would recommend organizing other "types" of words beyond places, things and people. Example - mood, or specific picture themes for abstract pics as an example.
I have a top level category in my things labeled mood, and several keywords in that I attach to some images based on the mood. As far as abstract, I do have a single keyword in things called abstract which some images are attached to (don't do a lot of abstract work). You could certainly add more descriptive names to types of abstract under that.
@@cwaynefox Thank you Wayne. I've rewatched your video a few times now. I'm realizing it will take some thought to figure out the proper hierarchy. The "Thing" one is the most complicated one I find as it is so wide.
Thanks Jim; are you still replying questions ?
@@IanBrowne-x6n whose Jim?
@@cwaynefox sorry Wayne, right page wrong name 🙄
amazing.
I agree that taming your keyword list is essential, and what I looked for. I wonder why so many videoes of keywords still put location information in keywords. It is meant to be placed in other places of metadata (city, sublocation, country), and "aspect ratio" you will get from EXIF. But as I said, it is still more than enough keywords left to grow that list way too long. My problem is related to adding systematic hierachy to animals, birds, plants etc. so it was still good help
you can't build a location hierarchy using the location field of the metadata. Also some places strip most of the metadata, but they usually leave keywords alone. Also finding things via keywords for me is easier. So I stick to using keywords.
@@cwaynefox I agree about that LR do not understand location hierarchy. I included in my argument for using these metadata for location that the user remember the hierarchy herself/himself, or watch it as it appear in the metadata, since it will show the overall location/state/region/country for any sublocation I have added.
The best video for this specific purpose I've found. Thanks for making it ! : )
You're very welcome!
Good stuff. thanks
Great video, thanks for making this! Headed to watch part 2 now .
Hope you enjoy it!
Some great concepts.
thanks