The Decline of ESPN...What Happened?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ม.ค. 2018
- ESPN has been on the decline lately. This is evidenced through mass firings, declining subscriptions, shaky ratings, and just general criticism from the public. This video explores why this has been happening and theorizes whether or not they could make a recovery from it.
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You can watch ESPN for hours and never actually see any sports.
lazy gamer
Like MTV and music videos
Also VH-1 and music videos. Ditto MTV2.
Sounds like what happened to MTV.
lazy gamer
Plus see the same thing over & over again or hear the same nerds yelling.
lazy gamer it’s called evolving
“You watch ads on here all the time” ad starts playing
Jordan Payne and when the ad ends "and that is how TH-cam makes money" lol
Duded that happened to me!!
He placed it there on purpose...
haha I scrolled through the comments to see if anyone else caught that
*cough* uBlock Origin *cough*
There are a million reasons for their decline but they can be summarized as "The photographer who thought he was more important than the Picture"
Or "the comedian who thought everything he made was comedy gold and stopped trying as hard"
I remember when ESPN showed sports, MTV showed music videos, CNN reported news, and Michael Jackson was black.
That's how old I am.
Excellent point- well said
Wow don’t worry then you’re almost on your way out
😂😂
I wonder if everyone remembers when ESPN showed the O.J. Simpson bronco chase as well as his trial, they also showed other things unrelated to sports such as Whitney Houston and Aretha Franklin‘s funeral, as well as the Kobe Bryant Helicopter crash press conference and the George Floyd protest. Perhaps networks such as ESPN, MTV, VH1, Nickelodeon, lifetime, and TBS need to rebrand themselves to something that relates to their actual content
So you’re 50 years old?
We just wanted highlights, not what LBJ's son ate for breakfast this morning or shouting talking heads spewing the same rhetoric over and over again.
Don't give 2 shits about anything lebron
Lyndon b Johnson’s son?
So true!
social justice warriors, their coverage from their gated disney castle - is laughable
@@jacobstrine6332 Hahahahaha! That’s why I thought, too. 😉
ESPN became Entertainment Tonight, Access Hollywood, Extra.
Don’t forget E!
Exactly. Sports journalism became more similar to the wider spectrum of American "journalism"...which is garbage.
And CNN. At least when Jemele Hill was there.
@@NeverMindMan yes, when they went political...I had to step away....
@UltimateOverlord screw cnn
Everyone: “Hey, can you tell us the scores of the recent NFL games?”
ESPN: “WHY? LEBRON JAMES JUST HAD A BURGER FOR LUNCH AND TOM BRADY BOUGHT A NEW CAR!!!”
Then after that we'll talk about the Cowboys
@@cerabrii398they never talk about small market teams, and baseball/soccer/hockey have been basically forgotten about
This sums it up nicely.
@@NWSportscast the cowboys my favorite team hasn't been worth shit for a couple decades and yet we still in the top 3 greatest worldwide franchises Manchester United aint got shit on us
I remember I was at a barbershop & I was wondering why I was hearing CNN in the background. I turned around and it was ESPN.
HA!
That is sad that u fall for the BS from Fox we just lie news & other right wing nut jobs!!! If the majority of the employees are black & who are under attack by the so called police they have a right to take a stand and speak out
Nw that’s funny😂😂😂😂
😂😂
@@starwarsnaomi what did Jon Gruden say that was so bad? I don’t get it. Please explain.
There shows aren't even about the athletes performance in the game anymore. It's all about their personal lives, politics and Twitter arguments between athletes.
its like how MTV phased out music and Comedy Central is phasing out comedy, ESPN is phasing out its sports
And they act like teenagers. You never see weathermen acting like that. They just give you what you need
ESPN basically refuses to acknowledge hockey, one of the four major American Sports, exists. But they’ll talk basketball in the off season. They lost me a while ago.
You almost forget hockey is a sport. Max Kellerman on first take said nobody in the USA cares about hockey. I disagree with his comments. Hockey has a strong following but it doesn’t get the same ratings as football, baseball and basketball.
If you wanna keep going it’s a large reason probably why NASCAR has declined as well. If they really brought a good overall network on all sports they’d talk more golf, nascar, hockey and more!
Thank God! For a while, I thought I was the only one!!!! Hockey is the greatest sport ever played, IMO. Hockey players are the best athletes. You don't have to have specific attributes, like height or to be 300#... there are 5'9", 165# guys in or going into the Hall of Fame, there are 6'5" and taller guys going into the Hall of Fame. The key is you have to be a great athlete. A great athlete who is 5'9" is very unlikely to make the Hall of Fame in Basketball or Football, and in Baseball you only need to be good at ONE thing... so you don't need to be a great athlete, you just need to be good at ONE thing... A great athlete like Trout will make the Hall for sure... but you can't just be good at one thing in hockey and be a top player. In baseball, if you can hit home runs easily, you can be considered great, even if you can barely make it around the bases or hit over .200. If you can throw a 100 mph fastball, you don't need any other skills. It used to be, in baseball, that you needed to be a well rounded guy to be a professional. Today, half these guys can't field worth a damn, they are sluggish on the base paths, and they can only hit the ball very hard... most not even for a decent average. That's baseball, a one dimensional sport. Hockey is the only true sport left of the major sports in the world today.
@@Murph_. not true we are just at a time where pitchers are the best they've ever been and it's harder than ever to get a hit saying "if you can throw 100 mph, you don't need anything else" tell that to aroldis Chapman he was that and once the league caught up to it he started getting exposed pitchers now throw baseballs at 100 mph fastball with movement or a 90 mph even some curveballs are being thrown like blitzballs Chapman is still good now but he has two maybe even three pitches that batters have to worry about on top of the fastball. Plus baseball is probably the sport that requires the most hand eye coordination and patience that's why people who don't watch baseball find it exciting plus there are many great players in the league that can play both sides of the field shit ohtani is hitting pitching and fielding saying that you don't need to be an athlete in baseball is incredibly stupid btw just because they don't have as much movement as other sports doesn't make them any lesser of an athlete Jordan was the prolly the biggest atheletic freak in his time and he couldn't reach the majors
@@slanda2262 Throwing harder doesn't make a pitcher better. I'd put Greg Maddux up against any pitcher any day. Also, as we continue down this road, players will catch up to the high velocity fastballs, but if the pitchers are otherwise average or worse, which they are, then what? KNOWING how to pitch is more important than how hard you can throw. Finally, when guys are all taught that they should either walk or swing for the fences, it's much easier to strike someone out. MUCH, MUCH easier.
In conclusion, one skill does not make a great player.
They became hyper-political, preachy and self-righteous. Basically, they became a 24/7/365 episode of "Sports Night".
That’s why I watch espn deportes and I’m Italian lol
I stopped watching when they started to only cover two sports.... the NFL and, to a far lesser extent, the NBA
I cover college football to
Same for us. One of the reasons we started making our podcast in the first place is because we were sick of having to listen to just football and basketball all day. There's so many other good sports to cover that ESPN ignores.
They cover more nba than nfl nowadays
@@ftruers2544 No, the NFL is the most covered
To be fair, NFL and NBA are really popular among their viewers.
Too political. Too expensive. Overated. Those are the issues.
I mean I’ve stopped watching espn because of how political it’s become
You really mean you stop watching when their views didn’t match yours.
@@commonsense3921
False.
He is saying (what most people are also saying) : "keep politics out of sports".
The Kaeparnick kneeling situation....
Michael Sam draft day celebration....
Bruce/Caitlin Jenner nonsense...
Dennis Rodman & North Korea ...
Sola Scriptura lol bet you have zero problems with “military tributes” though, do you?
@@philhunt26
Funny.
You don't know me, at all, do you?
I served eight years in the US Navy (2002- 2010).
Last duty station in Pearl Harbor (2007- 2010).
CS3 onboard USS Russell (DDG- 59).
Thanks for trying;
but, you lost that bet.
@@philhunt26 those are stupid also.
Its 2021 now and they still talk about race and gender more than sports. They arent even a sports network anymore.
It’s a shame that the network has come down to this
Ok what’s the problem with that
Just give it a while, eventually you’ll see an athlete with race and/or gender. It’ll happen.
@@lanealbirth141 The people who complain about politics are soft as shit.
"Think of TH-cam. You watch ads here all the time -" **Mid-Roll ad plays.**
Hey Company Man, did you do that on purpose?!
"This should be call the Lebron James Network... all we do is talk about Lebron James" - Jalen Rose
And Tom Brady.
And Zion Williamson
And Mike Trout.
And Aaron Rodgers...and Dallas Cowboys
AntsnRoaches Not to mention Nick Saban and Alabama football.
ESPN covering political content is like Hershey's selling mirrors. Like, what?
Daniel Gonzalez is Hershey selling mirrors for reals?
Marilyn Marks nope :P
At first I was like “What? Mirrors?” But then I realized that was the point…
Not really though, because in 2017 a lot of teams and athletes used the games to try and highlight political issues, and they had to cover that.
Krombopulos Michael it sickens me when politics get everywhere. I'm from Venezuela and here (since things are so fucked up) you literally can't do a single thing without involving politics somehow, and it's really, really tiring. Don't let that happen over there
I miss old espn watching with my dad in morning was so fun I miss those times
"And on the next episode of 'Abandoned Shopping Malls of America' - The Demise of ESPN: What will Connecticut do with the dilapidated remains of this once-relevant network?"
They hired a bunch of people that know little to nothing about the sports they cover 😂
It’s infuriating
Sippin Water like Skip Bayless
Rob Parker and Max Kellerman are the worst
George Ryan Jr. oh god Max Kellerman knows nothing. He said the MLB is more popular than the NBA. I’m a baseball fan, and even I think that’s the dumbest comment ever, obviously the NBA is more popular than the MLB
@Luke Skywalker Skip is on Fox, not ESPN.
cable in general is a waste of time. I cancelled cable long ago and only have one regret.. that I did not cancel it sooner.
You do know that outside of NFL Football, the lion's share, aka HUGE majority of sports (College Football and Basketball, NHL Hockey, NBA Basketball, and MLB Baseball) are on cable/satellite television. On over the air broadcast TV, sports have pretty much disappeared, again outside of NFL Football.
Cancelled cable in ‘06 and I’ll never have it again.
Im in hotel watching cable right now....i dont regret getting rid of it one bit. 50 percent of it is bullshit shows trying to shill old people.
@@OdintheGermanShepherd I just hope you are not a sports fan. Most if not all of sports have drifted to cable/satellite. Of course, if you subscribe to 10 different streaming services, then you will be back to where you have started.
There shoving the New England and Tom Brady down our damn throtes.
I saw ESPN playing the movie "The Mighty Ducks" during primetime the other night. That network has got issues, especially with covid going on
It’s awesome!!!
THERE is no COVID-19
We have all seen it. Before ESPN. So basically they were not smart enough to put vintage footage.
They have lost their way. It is dead.
Which one? D3 is my favorite
You posted this video two years ago and I’m surprised they are still around in 2020. No one watches espn anymore. It’s going the way of MTV. Soon it will be strictly reality tv.
I miss the days when ESPN was scores, highlights and funny commercials.
Yeah, right? I loved those college basketball comercials with Rober Goulet singing about coaches! PRICELESS.... since we will never see stuff like this anymore...… binged.it/2ZPkdfM
FACTS
I yearn for the days of “this is sportscenter” commercials.
OMG at 3:46 a mid-roll ad came on. Perfect timing wow!
Ublock Origin does wonders.
David Frischknecht I have an ad block but I have TH-cam white listed unless I watch a channel that I dislike
Collin Smith jags super bowl 2018, DUVAAAAALLLLLL
I've seen you around, are you on Twitter?
Company Man is notorious (at least to me) for having very well placed adds if you pay attention to it in his videos.
ESPN isn't necessary anymore. There are too many ways to get the same information and commentary at no cost.
Are you are it's not politics? 99% of these comments is woke politics is why.
The video is aging so well! ESPN is even more trash now 🗑
"you watch ads all the time" right before the ad plays, well played
pillowsocket that’s what I thought ahhaha
Same here lol
People don't want to hear someone's political beliefs when they're tuning in for sports as an escape from politics.
For Sure
100% mate! I just want to hear sports news when I watch ESPN.
Like a lot these espn or fox reporters that have been retired are now coming out talking about politics like give me a break it’s old news
So you want a safe space?
@@kevaughnramsay9846 Sports are supposed to be a safe space from outside bulls*t, so yeah.
HR block has the same business plan. When I started there the average tax return fee was $35. Today it is pushing $300 with an annual decline in customers.
This is a good perspective. I do think viewership has been more impacted than you think due to politics. People aren't cancelling their cable because of it, but they're cutting cable because screw cable, so unless people do ESPN plus, their viewership will keep going down, and the politics don't help.
People who complain about politics are just snowflakes.
You forgot "ESPN 8: The Ocho!"
fuck you, take my upvote!!! haha
SHIT YOU BEAT ME TOO IT
The ocho is ESPN's savior..
raven lord Yeah I never miss the annual dodgeball tournament
If it almost looks like a sport, we cover it here! On ESPN 8 the Ocho
Short answer: The internet happened
DemonGrenade274 Oh shit! After scrolling down a barrage of comments blaming “liberal propaganda”; I found one that actually points the blame to the true culprit of the decline.
You, sir, deserve more likes.
That's why ESPN will have a streaming service in the near future.
May I point out: we are here on that Internet, not paying anything. Yeah .. could be politics, but if that was true, their decline would have been steeper. All those posting do not reflect the subscription chart. At the same time: all those posters, being here, ranting, won't come back paying $7, if ESPN was the only proper channel. If ESPN was the best way, I guess, they would watch Obama dancing at Half time.
My hunch is, ESPN faces the same problem as most News outlets, having huge fixed expenses while shrinking revenue.
@J P Don't respond to the wrong person again.
J P he’s a conservative don’t attack him
When they'd rather preach politics. Instead of talking sports.
Bingo. They panded to black issues.
@@mikerodgers7620 fr like leObressed
@@mikerodgers7620 pandered to China.
What happened to ESPN? They became woke.
I stopped watching when they talked about Lebron/Tom Brady for 45 minutes. Leaving 15 minutes for commercials
NoFearIsHere but they need poster boys nba is star driven if not lebron than steph curry, nfl is a different story which is more franchise driven
Don't forget about the non-stop Yankees/Red Sox coverage
You must of missed the Tim Tebow coverage
This. ESPN shows way too much favoritism towards certain teams/athletes. I remember when A-Rod came back from his PED suspension and they covered his batting practice for nearly the whole show. Are you kidding me?
LeBron is a racist! boycott nba!
I'm a cable, internet installer.... And ESPN's politics are the reason I always hear why people don't like them anymore
Yes, and that's how you learn, firsthand. The media is nothing but lies and obfuscation.
Fact plus all the other shit they are basically TMZ east
Amen brother
Yep, if I want to see, hear or smell pig shit, I'll switch to pmsnbc.
Really
ESPN failed when ESPN began to stand for Electronically Sustained Political Network
When they took off sportsnation it was over. They are not even about sports anymore, it’s politics
I don’t think it’s just ESPN. As I got older I realized that a lot of these so called analysts, commentators, and hosts don’t know anything about the sports they are suppose to be covering. They just try to trigger people.
Also barely any of them actually analyze a game. It’s always “So & so chocks again”
Degwin Sodo Zabi this is so right!
Degwin Sodo Zabi your right these analyst don't know shit. When I was kid I couldn't wait to watch pre game, post game. It's embarrassing to watch has been athletes act out plays
THIS. I bring him up a lot here, but UrinatingTree was right. ESPN is selling hot takes and personalities, but you can get those all over the internet for free.
Finally someone gets it here. Them trashing a player or team and then that team winning and saying "I told you so" despite what they said actually used to have some ground to it. Now, its nothing new. Everyone is catching on these guys are just fucking useless lol
Agreed, they need to entice you to keep watching and for the most part they like to get people outraged. That, and them trying to push things on you, remember Tebow mania. They are also so god dam pc it’s agitating. That’s what makes barstool so refreshing.
The fact that they refuse to even discuss hockey - and actually flat out insult the sport and its fans any chance they get - simply because they lost the rights to it a decade ago... just shows how out of touch they are with the market segments that made them what they are. Well, what they were.
ESPN won't report about hockey because hockey is all white and ESPN is pushing the all black democratic billionaire media hidden agenda all black all the time
@@jonjonas2528 yes that is definitely the reason. Fucking idiot. They don't report on hockey because it doesn't bring in ratings. NFL and NBA do
@@jonjonas2528 get away troll please
@Jon Jonas--ESPN used to cover the NHL back when I first had an interest in the sport. They had some very good people covering it. But now the NHL is on another network.
Many are interested in football or other sports. The political commentary and/or extra cost to have ESPN (depending on the system/package) can be too much for some.
@@jamiehoward6505 he actually does have a point. They did the same with Baseball when the MLB took the playoffs away from them and went with the higher bidder in TBS. And Baseball does as much ratings as the NBA.
That picture of Max is literally his face every time Stephen A. starts talking😂
I grew up in an era where television was free. Before the Internet was much of a thing, I got rid of cable soon after getting it because I simply could not get used to the idea of paying for TV. I basically watch only Patriots games that are on free TV, and listen to Red Sox games on MLB Gameday Audio, for which I grudgingly cough up $20 a year because I live 1000 miles from Boston.
I think your video is correct as to the big picture of why ESPN is doomed. But I also think ESPN's political BS is driving away subscribers who otherwise would have stuck with them. To build on your Walmart analogy, it's like Walmart not only has raised its prices in response to declining customers, but also has put up a sign out front that says, "NO REDNECKS."
If they hadn't demonized those that disagreed with the protests. And they if they had allowed for actual debate without making it the center of the network's attention. ESPN would be doing better, as would the NFL. The issue wasn't bringing politics in, the issue was blindly accepting what the protesters said as truth and attacking anyone with valid arguments. While making it more important than the game itself.
@@codyblea3638 they did that because you're stupid.
I wish Walmart would do that.
@@codyblea3638 Nah you all are just soft.
The people who left because of politics are VERY SOFT.
ESPN is like MTV in 2018.
I'm just waiting to see them to go bankrupt.
Continue waiting it wont happen
@@gmonono2847 yes it will, when there other means to watch sports
Disney could end up selling them. The MCU has been more valuable than a network that airs every sport in the US, that's actually sad for ESPN lol
Fox sports will take their place.
@@michaelcap9550 Fox Sports will NEVER replace ESPN, the Worldwide Leader in Sports.
The political nature of ESPN was a turn-off for me.
Snowflake
@@clipobserver They got woke and were heading broke. They got smart and started booting their ignorant SJWs.
@J P Snowflakes are the millennials who cry when they don't get what they want. Similar to ESPN millionaires who lie about people for profit. But they got booted or told to shut their mouths and they complied. They may act woke but they care more about their paychecks.
Yup
ESPN filled the niche from back in the days without internet, social media, and TH-cam. Nowadays there's better content on the web that can be free to view and not have the stinky stench of SAS, what once was Skip Bayless, and also the political agenda on the background (and even more up front nowadays). I'm not on the bandwagon against liberals, but I tune in for sports entertainment and not CNN looking for political debates or the like.
Political crap plus all these feel sorry for them stories 🤮🤮
I'd love to see you do a video on failed mergers like AOL Time Warner.
Allie-RX yesss
Allie-RX Or that Viacom-CBS merger.
he already did AOL
Tony Donaldson No he didn't.
Does the failed AT&T-T-Mobile merger of 2011 count?
I think ESPN's politics had a lot to do with their decline.
I've hated ESPN ever since "The Decision". Also I don't support LGBT, black lives matter, feminism or the me too moment. So there is nothing for me to ESPN.
One of the greatest comments ever typed on TH-cam
I don't think we need ESPN any more
Damon Abets Chris Smoove
For you maybe but for the league it's still necessary don't you think ?
For THE league? How about all leagues. I think, as Company Man pointed out, the leagues are already moving away from ESPN. 35 years ago, the leagues needed ESPN, but the NFL, NCAA, NBA, NHL, MLB and even 2nd tier sport leagues (UFC, MLS, etc) have already shown they could survive just fine without the old business model.
Actually ESPN has a app & streaming service......
ESPN now has UFC...trying to win the people they have pissed off back. I watch more of the Fox networks for my sports now, they have most the people who left ESPN anyway.
Sounds like MTV. Internet made music and sports scores and highlights too easy to access so they went in new directions. People are nostalgic of the good ole days of these channels but in actuality they would not work in today’s day and age. So now we have these “weird” emotion and opinion based content that you either get on board with or quit watching. Will be interesting to revisit in the next decade or two.
Mtv is dying the same death = SJW/Leftist political BULLSHIT!
Drunk Roku You conservatives wouldn't be crying if they went in your direction.
Neither would the channels.
Mtv back catalog of shows/series is pretty decent....goes to app only teen mom and last season real world wtf
In two decades both ESPN and MTV will be either unrecognizable, renamed, or gone. Reminds me of The Nashville Network, which eventually morphed into Spike TV and is morphing again into The Paramount Network. That's ESPN and MTV's future.
What you said about them jacking up the subscription rates after people started leaving is happening with World of Warcraft right now. Tons of people were leaving due to the ongoing lawsuit, I was staying around. They increased the price to over $20 from $15 so I canceled. Don't punish the loyalists. If you do, you deserve to be dragged through the mud as a company.
They have a controlled narrative and that makes it a no no for me
This coming from an Australian. I watch sports after work to unwind. Therefore i dont want to hear anything about the US politics, racism, and other real world issues because sports is a escape and i dont care about US politics.
When a company decides to become political and woke, then what they choose to cover is only as important as what they choose to ignore. EPSN, Lebron and the NBA support the concentration camps in China by virtue of not speaking out against them now. They can't have it both ways.
@@FallicIdol LeBron is a black man so it makes sense to speak about black issues. He's well within his rights to do so, same as your well within your rights to get butthurt about it
@@hfr8343 Lebron is going to bed with slavers with China. He has no right to talk about injustice while aligning with the literal enemies of free society. I don't expect someone like you or Lebron, someone hell bent on being a victim and incapable of objectively looking at the plight of others, to understand this.
You should care.... Remembers the liars are gonna probably try it here 1st if it works here they're gonna do it to you.... Australia America and England will go up or down together
@@FallicIdol you have no say in what a person can and cannot talk about just because your way of thinking doesn't align with his. It's actually pretty hypocritical
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Adblock
Same
It is possible to do as I do and not pay the slightest attention to TH-cam ads. I ignore them and do not recollect a single one!
Man, ESPN used to be fun..some highlights with some funny commentary and brief opinions on the games...but they've gone full SJW...even in their hiring and firing of personnel. Garbage.
Their leftist politics... yuck
ESPN started to decline when they got rid of ESPN 8: THE OCHO
WTF is ESPN 8?
@@pedalesmexicali It's a joke based on the movie "Dodgeball."
I was going to comment the OCHO lol 😂
Most under-rated comment ever lmfao I listed the OCHO in my head when he was listing the ones ESPN has lol
That was a bold move on their part Cotton.
Next video, PepsiCo - Bigger than you know!
Yes!
Ye!!
ECDT1089 Yeah!
Hecc yeah lemme see that
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They went woke and "Social justice"
“Who watches TV anymore?”
The video: "Maybe it has something to do with the political controversy but I think that's such a small part of it..."
The comments section: ESPN'S DYING CAUSE THEY WENT POLITICAL!!!
Politics has nothing to do with it... or the decline of Dick's Sporting Goods for that matter. They're both declining because they're obsolete. "Getting political" doesnt seem to hurt Target or Starbucks or Gillette or whoever else.
@Beau Lijah The comments section proves that SOME people's opinions are persuaded by how political they are. But, that's anecdotal at best, and doesn't give a clear picture of what portion of their subscribers have cancelled for that reason, or how many subscribers have JOINED because of their political leanings. Looking at other companies who "get political," it likely has less to do with that and more to do with what's mentioned in the video.
Christine Hill I think “going political” has certainly hurt ESPN because it alienated viewers of certain political beliefs. It has to do with demographic for instance, you mentioned how Starbucks has not been hurt too badly but it is not like Starbucks has a huge following of right wing individuals like Dicks sporting goods had but they sent the message that selling guns is somehow immoral and it rubbed a good amount of customers the wrong way. Starbucks started in Seattle which has now become a very liberal city where they still receive much of their business today so doing something that appeals to left won’t hurt them for now but could still hurt them in the long run like when Nike ran that Keapernick ad (Gillette is in Boston and I’m pretty sure Target started in Minnesota btw) overall it is still a very stupid decision to go political in either direction because no matter what you will lose fans and viewership and who knows, companies like Gillett and Starbucks may suffer in the long run even if they aren’t right now
@@vondeebs1906 The problem is that Starbucks (like Target) has a presence in more right-wing markets, which has been more or less unaffected by politically-motivated boycotts. ESPN, Nike and Dick's all have something in common: They were in decline BEFORE their political controversies. There's nothing to suggest that "going political" had any sort of impact. Right wing conservatives have this mindset that, any time a business makes decisions based on contemporary social mores (which tend to be liberal because that's how social progress works), those businesses must be "going political." That's how conservatives protect their inability to accept inevitable social progress. But, just because a business makes a moral business decision doesn't mean they're "going political." Look at Chick fil-A. They weren't hurt too badly when it was exposed that they give to right-wing hate groups. Boycotts typically do not work when it comes to issues where the public is polarized because, for every shopper who boycotts, another will be there to pick up the slack. Businesses have a social obligation to stand up for what is right in accordance to the morality of their market. ESPN is on the decline because they're becoming obsolete and are a part of cable packages that are also going obsolete. It has nothing to do with "going political."
Christine Hill the real reason why Starbucks has not suffered too badly is because there is a lack of competition but if they had a more stable competitor I’m sure they would see a decline if they were to delve into politics and how is not selling guns “social progress”? Also conservatives do not have an “inability to accept inevitable social progress” after all republicans were the ones that abolished slavery in the first place. Rather instead it is the argument of whether the things that Nike and others are pushing for is really progress at all especially since on the topic of slavery, Nike still owns all those sweatshops. It is also annoying that they promoted Keapernick because of this cause that he is promoting but he turned out to be a sell out and a fraud and I just feel sorry for the people that actually believed in his cause only to see him take millions of dollars from the NFL to stay quiet, could you ever see MLK jr doing that? Of course not! Because the King actually believed in what he was preaching (and his movement was clear and important) unlike the police brutality nonsense Colin was promoting, there is no national police force, if there is a specific department in certain cities not doing a good job then we can address that, it is so disrespectful to blanket all cops in the same category as if they are all part of the same force, you gotta know it is bad when the one player that actually served in the military walks out of the Steelers locker room and stands for the flag. Kneeling for the national anthem has to have been one of the most divisive and stupidest political movements I have ever seen because it is built around pure nonsense, people have a problem with it because doing it at the game makes it look like he is trying to send a message to the fans as if they need to something about it or they are somehow the problem when he should have taken it upon himself to have this be an off field issue
The political issues are just the straw that broke the camel's back.
@Lighter Fluid15 You are an ignorant moron.
@Lighter Fluid15 Your hypocritical bigotry is astounding. Like most progressives you lump people who don't vote like you as backward racists yet ironically criticize a group you see as racially bigoted when you yourself have demonstrated abject bigotry in your addressing comments. You automatically lose the argument with that rhetoric.
@Lighter Fluid15 really nascar fans are racist and bigoted because they wave a Confederate flag? Don't 2 states have that in their state flag? It's part of their heritage now whether I agree with what you claim it stands for or not is my opinion. That makes as much sense as saying anyone waving a Hawaiian flag is committing treason because it has a Union Jack on it.
Lighter Fluid15 bruh this might be the dumbest comment of seen those poc are rich and entitled and benefit from the country but always complain about how racist it is and demand white people have the same views as them or they are racist
Lighter Fluid15 nascar is literally a white sport most black people not even interested in that shit
Here to see if he says: “get woke go broke.”
I imagine what they are talking about now without any sports 🤷♂️
If ESPN wants to get big they gotta make ESPN 8: The Ocho a real thing 24/7
noideac 😂😂😂 that's from Dodgeball no?
I quit watching their programs when they started talking politics.
Sports have been in politics for a long time though? Ali didn’t go to Vietnam? Jesse Owens in Nazi Germany? Etc.? It’s probably because you weren’t liking what you were hearing.
Myles Geoghegan
I don’t really think Jesse Owens was political. He was just black in the 1930s. After all, “human rights isn’t political” is it?
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Etc just because you have no examples
@@MichaelJ44 - The "sports was always political" comment is so dishonest. ESPN has distinctly gotten into the political commentary business. To cite a handful of instances across past decades hardly compares. And if you read this comments section pretty much 90% of them are citing the exact same thing.
@@mylesgeoghegan7811 and ESPN wasn't around back then. That shit was on the news, stupid
When he said that you watch ads on TH-cam all the time, I got an ad and I thought it was a joke that he put in.
Same 😂
As the said in ancient Rome: Geteth woketh Goeth Broketh
I would say that they became too political and hypocrytical. They also act above the normal person. I agree with many comments in this post, most analysts on ESPN are garbage.
Keith Then what's FOX's problems? They are selling all their US media assets EXCEPT Fox News for now. It appears FOX News might be on the block too.
Piteus W Fox wasnt sold. PARTS of Fox were sold. The most profitable parts (like Fox News) which arent particularly subject to the changing media and streaming landscape remain staunchly Murdoch owned.
552mustang Murdoch sold their biggest asset at FOX. Their movie content. They also sold all their regional content. FOX also wanted to sell FOXSports but Disney balked due to possible monopoly issues. FOXSports is a disaster. FOX News will be under pressure as more conservative networks / streaming services are launched.Gasbags are a dime a dozen. Content is King. The Murdoch's know this. Look at CNN and MSNBC. They are competing for a liberal audience. It's only a matter of time FOX NEWs gets new competition for their conservative viewers.
Please don't push this narrative about left vs. right. The media doesn't work that way. Content is King. FOX knows they are screwed in sports. They also know FOX News will have a lot more conservative platforms after their viewers. They will also sell FOX NEWS. With Trump as President, it will never get any better than to sell now.
@Keith - They were annoying and hypocritical if you were not in there preferred market long before they were getting political. Now there is not only faster ways to get the information, the popular games tend to leak to the internet somewhere and there is more alternate entertainment to TV as well.
Keith ESPN is like the modern woman no one needs you any more hah
For me, they died when I had to hear their BS politics.
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@@mayamanign keep rolling your eyes at it, but it’s the truth. Some people just can’t handle it😂
Man, I loved his commentary on "Raising prices to make up for lost subscribers" diatribe. What he rightly calls "a dumb business model" is literally the Folk Economic Model I hear on social media from everyone, every day.
You think ESPN’s bad, you should see Canada’s version: TSN... Y’all like 7 straight hours of the completely unlikable Tim & Sid?
I remember the last time I attempted to watch was several years ago. It was right in the middle of a very competitive NHL playoffs and figured sports center would have the highlights. Instead the spent almost the whole broadcast talking about an NBA player coming out as openly gay, no highlights or even mention of the Stanley cup playoffs.
I still remember where I was when Lance Stephenson started blowing Le'bron, glad dude finally admitted it.
Yes.
The real answer is it was hockey. No one actually watches it so why would ESPN care about it
@@gerhardschulzy Hockey is the only sport where people do not get ejected for merely fighting. Try doing that in the NBA, MLB, or NFL. It is an automatic ejection for merely throwing a punch. It does not matter if it connects or not.
If anyone wants to see hockey, there is always NBC and NBCSN (NBC Sports Network).
Can you do the decline of MySpace? Keep up the great work!
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Watch this video, it is about mySpace, and should answer some of your questions.
To answer your question: Yes, we did literally cancel our cable because of ESPN's politics. Well, not 100% because of ESPN. It was because we had to pay for so many political channels we just didn't want, and I count ESPN as a very expensive politics channel with some sports. The price kept going up and up to over $100 a month. We now have Hulu and an antenna and are happy watching the few shows we cared about for about 1/10th the price of a cable package bloated with unwanted, identical political channels all yelling identical daily talking points about orange man bad.
I'd love for you to do a remake of this video with the recent firings from ESPN
I didn't even realize I had fallen away from ESPN... mlb.com made it so much faster to get what I needed.
Sure, why not
Chuck Keough I'm going to sub to you just because Jajajaja.
NHL.com too
mlb.com and nhl.com are powered by BAMTech streaming tech which is owned by The Walt Disney Company
Yoshi Bryant Your channel looks like a bunch of clickbait garbage. Why should I subscribe?
I cancelled ESPN as well as the rest of my satellite subscription a year ago because $135/month was way too much to pay for shitty programming. I haven't looked back since. Politics did play a factor, but mostly television sucks. Modern television wasn't made for anyone with an IQ of room temperature.
You’re 100% correct. I can easily stream Redzone for free, listen to most games on the radio, or watch the play by play. I can also watch shows and movies on the internet or pay for a much cheaper subscription like Hulu
It has been 3 years since I have activity watched TV, and switched over to 100% digital media. Instant, mostly free and better...
I never heard of Gears TV. Is it an online service? 15 dollars a month is a steal. My cable bill was almost a 100 dollars a month at one time and I only used three or four channels.
Politics plays the smallest role, don't act like it was never there, even when ESPN was at there best... politics was there!
The young Republican lmfao
Chris Berman was awesome!!! Favorite quote from the Swammy: “There are no stupid questions; just stupid people who ask questions.” That quote is way too non-PC for today.
Once they decided to focus most of their show on social justice issues instead of sports I quit watching. Now I just order Sling TV with ESPN during NFL season and just watch the games, not the preshow or post game shows or halftime. Just the game and then I'm gone.
Wrong. it's ESPN politics that caused me to stop watching. I never watch an NFL game on ESPN and only watch an occasional college football game. I never watch ESPN for anything else. They are a terrible network.
They have their stories written before the game even starts, and they try and force their opinions down your throats.
@Skippy the Alien people watch sports to escape politics regardless of viewpoints
No doubt. I started watching ESPN less and less over the last few years. I always hated their obsession with Kaepernick but ultimately their non stop virtue signaling and glorifying gender politics did it for me. Herbstreit’s BETA performance was the nail in the coffin for me
I don't watch ESPN because of lame graphics and poor presentation of all of their sports properties.
Let’s keep in mind all this is coming to a head due to the fact that the sports leagues player contracts have grown outrageously large directly because of how much money ESPN gave them.
If ESPN goes under those leagues don’t get the large tv contracts and all the player contracts will have to be readjusted.
It’s a bubble that’s due for popping
Good
That's.....just not true. Take the NFL for example, most of their games are on Fox, CBS and NBC. ESPN only gets the monday night football games. So if they went under, the NFL would just give MNF to another network.
@@blackanimelover18 I feel like your proved my point. Those other networks you mentioned are all struggling already in their own right aside from ABC since it’s Disney owned. Getting an equal or larger tv contract if espn is out will be extremely difficult.
Also with the CBA always squeezing more of the tv money for their players each negotiating session is an unsustainable business model
@@brian12357 Wasn't ESPN affiliated with Disney? I know they had that ESPN Zone thing.
@@blackanimelover18you literally just proved his point 😂. Wow
If you are going to be political and have debate shows, and then you dont allow a voice of dissent to be heard and only chastised, then people will see it for what it is, a facade and a joke.
I never had a subscription to ESPN to begin with. My cousin did and I would occasionally watch it at his house, but I could not stand any of the commentators. Then they started getting all political. My cousin eventually cancelled his subscription because of that.
Can you do a video on what happened to Sports Authority
RandomStuffYT and Sports Chalet!
RandomStuffYT yes
They stopped selling firearms and ammo. That was a cut to their market and costumer draw.
I second this motion. I'd be interested in seeing that.
PickelJars ForHillary and they were all high and mighty about it. They even stopped filling co2 canisters foe paintball since it was at that same counter. Screw them, it took a long time for dicks and academy to get down here but it was the final nail in their coffin. Good riddance
ESPN it's like watching CNN
Ed Cook Max Kellerman is like watching any CNN reporter
Beau Lijah not only that, but they talk about the same topics multiple times a day in each of those leagues
“LeBron vs MJ”
“Will Michigan finally break their losing streak vs Ohio State?”
“Is Duke basketball overpowered?”
The greed of the cable companies. For years subscribers asked for an "a la carte" model where the customer would pay only for the channels he wanted, on a per channel basis. The cable companies always wavered, thinking we would never go cold turkey on cable. They guessed wrong.
Congress had a chance to make em do it but they pussied out- too many cable companies were big donors
More competition, bad management and questionable firing and hiring.
I think the politics supercharged their decline.
Not really. Plenty of places have it worse than ESPN because they have NOTHING that can't be put on Netflix or Hulu. The political stuff (and let's be honest, it's mostly Trump supporters who complain about it) is probably not going to move the needle either way because their entire model is obsolete.
Right after you said how youtube makes money from ads, an ad popped up
he did that on purpose
TH-cam would make more money if they didn't demonetize every channel that didn't align with their political views!
Does anybody watch them? I sure DON'T.
I actually stop watching ESPN because of how they became too political. That is the major issue. If I wanna watch lying politics, I'll watch CNN, MSNBC and Fox News.
Right. For many ppl without a hobby on video games, they got too much stress day after day and all channels are the political BS. The only thing on TV for them to watch & entertain is sports. And ESPN clearly ruined it.
i got an ad literally right after you said “youtube has ads all the time,” i wish i’d been screen recording it was so funny
When my wife and I cut our DirecTV subscription she dropped ESPN and when I asked why she told me that price...Yeah. We dont need that.
The only reason I stopped watching espn is because they stopped reporting sports and started discussing politics. It’s been 3 years now since I’ve watched espn.
You don't think sports and politics intersect? Jackie Robinson's widow would like to have a word with you?
It’s not the fact that you guys hate politics it’s the fact u hate minorities. You won’t us to shut up and dribble don’t u. Why you avoiding these topics: they make yt America uncomfortable
Company Man: “Think of TH-cam, you get ads all the time.”
Me: (Immediately gets ad after he says that.) “Well he ain’t wrong”
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I stumbled upon your channel and i Have enjoyed your videos . Should do a follow up on this with the recent releases and restructuring of their radio and podcast shows
ESPN is not espn anymore. It’s jokes and bs stories just give me the sports .