FSU Football rock bottom after 52-10 loss to Miami? : Warchant Wrap, Florida State analysis
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- Ira Schoffel and Corey Clark discuss FSU's concerning effort vs. Miami and what's next for Mike Norvell early in his tenure #FSUfootball #FloridaStatefootball #Warchant
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Willie took a lot heat and no one made excuses for him. I’m hearing alot of excuses for this BLOWOUT!!!!
Willie was too black
Facts
@Josh Weaver willie taggart coaches at fau who was scheduled to play usf but usf postponed because of covid. Wth are you talking about
@Josh Weaver you are slow. How can you lose a game if you dont play one on the schedule. Fau did not play a game yet this season. But you have buyers remorse with norvell so I guess thats why you are ignoring factual information
@Josh Weaver also you are the king of hypocrisy like ive been telling you. All last season i said constantly these were not good players and players play and coaches coach. You were one of the main ones saying it was all the coach fault and he cant coach this level of talent. But now that norvell is a failure its the players. Gtfoh with that bs. Now thats whats called privileged for real
Marvin Wilson's so overrated. Has he a sack or tackle all year.
He isn't great but he is a big fat slow guy, any OC worth a cent can scheme around him easily.
@Jeremy Marsh 100%
Too busy calling out his coaches....
@@sammylantz7660 Marvin looks slow as does the entire defense.. Has given up 68 points in 2 games.
Oh wow just shut up and play football right???? No he not a slave.
I'll be so glad when they start chubba so cory can stop blaming everything wrong with this team on blackmon. This team is so bad in many other areas besides blackmon. Yeah blackmon is not the qb for this team but did you see that o line? The o line was like an open gate. The defense is terrible hasn't got a 3 and out in 2 games. Players still getting stupid penalties smh but put it all on blackmon he's the reason for all of this. But what you don't hear is these coaches are looking bad just like willie did last year and worse. At least last year's team scored points. They started this hype train about these coaches but now wanna throw all the blame on blackmon.
Yup, nobody should have been hyping this team over the summer.
Adam Fuller was a joke last year and anybody that expected him to have an elite defense at FSU with a few weeks of practice was on drugs.
Warchant repping this defense all summer is exactly why I'm not a subscriber, you are paying money to read nonsense.
Omar Brewton I totally agree throw Purdy out there and he will look the same cause this entire team is sooo bad
Blackman ain’t it..he’s been there long enough for us to see he can’t move the ball consistently..only reason he’s even playing is because his arm is slightly better than Jordan’s which ain’t much to talk about either way..but when Jordan is in the game you know he’s running but can’t stop him til he got hurt..when James is in the game defense still know he struggles in the passing game and can’t get thru his reads fast enough..they load the box and send the house at him every time playing man in the back..at least with Jordan you slow that down a Little bit..also blackmans throwing mechanics are extremely flawed causing him to be late on a lot of throws and hesitate on throwing the ball in tight windows..when bubba bolden broke up that pass blades intercepted on the goal line he was super late throwing that ball
@@christhompson3489 You must've missed when I said blackmon isn't the qb for us??? My comment was he's being thrown under the bus like he's the only reason fsu is so bad. It's a lot of holes in this team but when you don't wanna place the blame on a defense, coaching staff, and other positions that was hyped up all summer just blame it all on blackmon I guess.
Omar Brewton I don’t think was saying Blackmon wasn’t a problem but so many fans believe that Blackman is the only problem and that’s not true especially aslon and Corey like purdy is gonna come in here and light it up he’s not with this o line
One thing that's for sure
Taggart is gone so you can't blame him anymore
You know they gonna find a way to
Blame taggart.
No problem, Fire Norvell, Now!
The season is over, anyway!
These are still Taggert's kids
Taggert is gone...but his players are still here.
Sure you can, with his trash recruiting
The Blackman slander is getting old!! Norvell play calling is TERRIBLE!! Fuller Defense Is TERRIBLE!! No Blitzing, Too Much Zone, Too Much Cushion From DB’s ... It’s God Awful!!!
Y’all Blackman like he’s he’s the only guy on the team! Blackman errors comes from him getting hit so much over the years!! Travis is good but coaches don’t have confidence in his arm.. hints why they haven’t called many passing plays for him!
Last years team will kill this team!!!
Last years team couldn't even line up correctly and didn't even know the plays.
Blackman's terrible granted the offensive line's been terrible for years. Jordan Travis can't pass, he's one dimensional can only run. Marvin Wilson's overrated. Has he a had sack or tackle yet this hear? No pass rush, secondary is terrible with exception of Samuel. Just a bad 2 win team at best.
Travis needs to play as a running back.....Blackman.....a wr....a good coach would have recognize that by now....psssst....Coach Norvell is 1-3 in bowl games.....sad isn’t it that he was a hire? Shaking my head....
“Rhett Lashlee doesn’t know more about offense than Norvell”
“Jaelen Phillips didn’t make much of an impact this game”.
“Only D’Eric king and their is the only transfer making a difference”.
All those statements can be proven false with quickness. First things first, Rhett Lashlee has succeeded with multiple teams when coaching offenses. Secondly, Jaelen Phillips play only a half and had 3 tackles and 2 defensive stops. And last but not least we have Bubba Bolden, Jarrid Williams, Quincy Roche, Jaelen Phillips, Jose Borregales alll which are transfers making an immediate impact on this team.
9 months ago: oh my goodness he nailed that press conference. Oh my goodness look at this phenomenal coaching staff hes put together. Then oh he has these players bought in to what hes doing. Fast forward to present day and they suck like most of us logical folks knew, oh he needs to get rid of these players. That was the obvious problem since 2016 really. Remember the turd comment taggart made about the roster. He got that info from fisher and let it slip out and tried walking it back. Couldn't say these players suck. But yall said it was all him and now yall giving norvell a pass and saying its the players. Double freaking standard folks. Hes the coach and is doing a bad job right now period.
I never said that. I thought it was a "settle" hire. He's too low ball, and he didn't hire bigtime assistants, who can recruit.
Taggart was a complete fraud. Norvell and his staff are definitely better than Taggart and his loser buddies he had tagging along, but, the only way FSU can improve is to get rid of the cancer's and head cases, and rebuild. That means recruiting has to be the number one priority.
Let the young guy's play, and recruit. That's all you can do at this point.
@@thorvalentinehatesytalgori2632 my comment was in reference to all the fsu and espn media heads when norvell was hired. Btw taggart didnt even lose a game this bad so...norvell aint the answer but fsu stuck with him. Also how do you rebuild with recruits if you keep getting blown out
@@carter1431 Your problem, and it will always be your problem, is that you refused to see Taggart for what he was. And that was a FRAUD!!
But, that said, you can recruit to Florida freaking State! Sell playing time, and the stage FSU plays on. Sell the opportunity. Mack Brown is wheeling and dealing at North Carolina right now, and they haven't won anything.
I don't think Norvell is the right hire. I've been on record with that. The right coach for FSU doesn't need to struggle to recruit and rebuild FSU. Problem right now is the "leaders" on this team are bad seeds. They really need to make some examples out of those guys.
I can't even imagine how many excuses Taggart would be making at this point if he were the coach.
@@thorvalentinehatesytalgori2632 well norvell dont have to make any because all of yall are making them for him. See how that double standard works. Can't deny it because you just did it along with the majority of analyst mainly kirk herbstreat all night
Definitely not better than Taggart so far!! Hell Norvell can’t score more than 13pts!!
5 straight touchdowns!!!!!!! Why the hell are u guys ignoring this horrible defense and terrible coaching??? Amazing the difference between a 1/2 season makes!
Because Taggarts gone so they refuse to blame the new coaching staff......Im a FSU fan and i been knew the team sucked
@@kimboslice5053 Yes Brett Venables is going to BE HC For FSU I told Everyone that lamo
@@benalexander2424 if the talent level isn't improved Belichick couldn't save the Noles
@@kimboslice5053 LOL Like I said FSU is gonna Hire Venables and FSU I alerady told everyone that idoit... and no Belichick isnt going to be our Coach Venables is going to be our Football coach idoit
@@kimboslice5053 FSU will Beat Duke This Year.... They Dont Have chase brice anymore.... Chase brice is leaving duke to go to FSU.
My prediction is that 6 more FSU football team members will enter the transfer portal this week and transfer out of the FSU program.
I agree...but isn't it their fault?? They are the ones playing soft af. So if the whole team leaves oh well...
Big time Canes fan here and I just want to say, I know how you guys feel, believe me. Miami has been right here where you guys are several times in the past 15 years. Remember, you guys blew us out in 2010 and again in 2013.
We was at least a 6-6 team with no OC
And again last year,
How are you going to say that Jaylen Phillips didn't have an impact on the game when he had the INT from Jordan and multiple TFLs? Btw that same 2019 Miami team that was a "debacle", also beat the crap out of FSU 27-10 in Tally.
@T Po1994 LOL a 3 score game isn't a blowout to FSU fans? Yall got embarrassed 2 years in a row.
All they want to do is blame their quarterback. Their troubles run deep, and as a cane fan I understand. However, their troubles start with their line and end with their defense. Blackmon is a fraction of their issues.
Bobby Bonilla Bobcat you’re not watching Bobby boy, the canes are a whole different monster this year and when they win the acc your fat lips will be sealed shut
@@bradbeck6259 so what ACC are they winning, the Coastal? Maybe.
@@ogp3321 lmao exactly who is he kidding Miami ain’t winning the acc any time soon😂😂👌
Just play underclassmen. There is zero upperclassmen leadership. As I posted on Warchant Post-game Show, FSU is now irrelevent. The absolute worse thing I can say about Florida State.
Taggart, Norvell is it really the coach or is it team? The FSU administration should be Fired!
FSU, could have easily had a top 5 coach, but instead, they went on the cheap! It looks like another Horrible season, again!
Yup, and Jimbo will have Texas AM humming very soon.
NFL players all over that roster already, 1st rounders everywhere.
@@noshotnova2432 Jimbo got out at the perfect time! I don't think he could handle this Shit storm!
Went on the cheap ??? Since when is paying a coach 5 mill a year and then another 3.25 mill a year considered on the cheap. ?
@@Supergoat76 you don't know the story then, Jimbo wanted a football only facility right away, instead the dumbass boosters built that champions club that sits empty every saturday for themselves. That was the beginning of the end, FSU is run by morons and disgraced themselves with Bobby's exit and Jimbos.... only a moron would come to work at FSU these days, it's where careers go to die.
@@noshotnova2432 ok. I misinderstood. Thought he was talking about coaches. You are right about jimbo. If we had spent some coin on facilities, he would still be here. And yes, absolutely the brass at the top is about brain dead.
It's a new embarrassing low every week with this team. Logo's cursed.
What is going to happen the rest of this year?
I love it, this fan base ran off a top 5 coach and is getting exactly what they deserve.
yeah dude it’s just the logo lol
😂😂😂😂
I hear a TON of excuses for Norvell, where’s the energy y’all had for Taggart?
at least MN went 12-1 with less than great talent, then again FSU has less than great talent. Point is I don't think WT wins at Memphis, Norvell did.
Kristoph Stjames With a group of 5 team. Taggart sweet 10-2 with USF, and was 6-1 at Oregon before his QB got hurt. Cut the bullshit.
Taggart sucked anyway
Well. First of all taggert coached 21 games. Norvell has coached 1 game. 2nd of all Norvell has a winning record and a smaller contract than Taggert. By year end Norvell will be on the hot seat just like Taggert was.
Brian I don’t care if he coached 100. The energy was not the same. It was said that he’s not ready, job too big , he looked lost, yet the current coach just allowed the other team to score the most points ever in this rivalry. But go ahead, beat that Norvell drum.
Come on, everyone knew that FSU was going to get slaughtered.
Coach Mike isn’t a Dan Mullen, ST. Nick, Dabbo, Manny D., ect.
Coach Mike isn’t a quick thinker, battle tested, it’s going to take several seasons.
FSU currently has trash players, everyone of the current roster would never make a Bobby B team.
It’s going to take 3 to 5 years to right the FSU ship.
Complete shit show !
He also wasn't in a position to make the decisions.
@@pitbull912808 what a load of cr@p you spew!
A lot of the FSU players need to hit the transfer portal right now !
They need to step down into lower division play.
Miami is a good team, not a great team, the UofM isn’t championship material.
FSU got slaughtered by a good team.
That’s how bad FSU is currently.
Miami will give clemson all they looking for & betting
Kids are staying home sorry for Bama Buckeys Clemson Auburn GA next 4 to 7 years Gators Miami & noles we be atop 🏈
The 3 man rush should have been scraped early in the first half
No, should never have been tried. It's stupid.
we need 5 on the D line....right from the snap. At least man up and defend runs and provide a rush on the QB
It's not the 3 man front that is the problem. It is the 3 linebackers. They need a 4th linebacker to allow flexibility of a linebacker moving up to play end, blitz, drop back i to coverage, zone, edge hold, etc. A ton of successful teams run 3 man fronts but they don't go 3-3-5 formations as a norm.
Notre Dame Clemson North Carolina Pittsburgh Louisville hell might even lose to Jackson State
Miami defeats UAB 31-14 last week.....slammed our noles by 42 and they were being merciful about it.....Jacksonville state will be the talk of the nation if they get us.....just ask Michigan over that app state game years back how well it went over nationally....a non removable daily thorn
@@knighttemplar221 don't knock App St they were FCS champions 05, 06 and 07.
Knight Templar hey I’m a Miami fan, we lost to fiu last season... a lot can change in a year, you guys will be it figured out, I’d rather watch a 3 point nail biter in this rivalry anyways...stay up!
This season might not be that bad. Travis has changed a lot of things and we did beat J’Ville St and the Tar Heels.
Maybe we need Charles Kelly back 😭🤦🏾♂️ n I hate to say it willie taggart/ briles offense was way better wit the same players we knew the problem was the oline n QB but at least are backs and recivers showed there potential n talent
Exactly!!
I thought that FSU had a coach in Kendall and dc in levitt or Mickey waiting while salivating for another shot at dc again, but nope, they had to hire another used car salesman in Norvell and a few not so great staff over those 2 mentioned above. I realize Chris Thompson does have decent past coaching credentials and cannot blame him for this mess just yet (doing Norvells bidding). Additionally, be advised, Norvell has a 1-3 bowl record.....that should tell ya something
T Po1994 u say it wouldn’t be any better but dawg fuckn 13 against GT n 10 against a sorry Miami defense briles put up more points agianst boise in a half then norvell did in 2 games
T Po1994 Georgia tech is not better then Boise bro sorry to tell u that it may look like that cause we fell off that bad uab put up more points agianst Miami than we did stop the excuses for norvell let’s keep the same energy like we did for taggart it’s only fair
T Po1994 and GT lost to citadel 🥱 this argument over wit
Chickens 🐓 coming home to roost
Well let's get these freshmen out there
Miami played 20 true freshman let that sink in
Spend 20 million to fire a guy and look even worse as a team. That's where we are as a program right now. At some point we have to stop blaming coaches and their schemes and put some responsibility on the players themselves
I agree. But we are in a society that does not believe in assessing responsibility to a bunch of kids/ young men. The crap always flows uphill at least in the world of athletics. The coaches are in a bad spot. The brass at FSU have made terrible decisions and the coaches will be the ones kicked to the curb but paid handsomely in the process. Some of these kids have played for 3 different coaching staffs and different types of schemes, not to mention all the outside issues of 2020 have posed. I don't have the answer....but it May get worse before it gets better.
corey stop making excuses!!!!!!!
Coaches got out coached AGAIN call it what it is!!
Out played bra
Can’t keep blaming coaching. These coaches haven’t even had the real chance *to coach* these players. They looked soft, out of shape, and checked out. That ain’t on coaching, sooner or later, it’s on the players.
@@mahall85 bullshit....Mike leach had the same amount of time like coachMike and they knocked off LSU
cause OleMike didn't surround himself with subpar assistant coaches!!!
CoachMike under estimated the ACC
Bs coordinators
The coordinators suck
They call the plays....
Naw man it’s our players. They have no heart, a fragile mindset and a inability to execute.
@@butleroferic1135 but its up to the coaches to bring that dawg out of them.....
If I can coach up a 10u youth football team up here In ATL ,it can be done!!!
Hope coachMike did lose the team back when that twitter shiiid jumped off..
K. Brown that’s not how coaching works bro. That “dog” that you’re referring to can’t be taught. You either have it or you don’t. This is a recruiting issue. When Norvell gets his guys in (a full recruiting class) you’ll see a difference. Our guys just don’t have it.
@@butleroferic1135 ok i feel ya bruh...
I have a 10u squad up here in ATL
Some coaches called them da bad news bears,my 1st year 2019 we came up one game short to the frank ski game..."ITS ABOUT GETTING KIDS TO BELIEVE IN YOU AND WHAT YOUR TEACHING THEM" TRUST!!! some people can motivate easy cause its NATURAL!!! I feel coachMike lost a % of this team with that twitter BS......
It probably could have been handled another way, but I never heard the explanation for the coach did (lied). Care to comment.
1. Do we have no under center formations? The notion that we'll have a running game with only TB/QB counters, draws, and stretches out of the shotgun is unheard of at least as Iong as I've watched football. I mean Kenny Dillingham, please talk to me. A TB lead or dive out of an under center formation. Simple.
2. Respectfully, if we look at the +/- of the LBs 1 and 35 over their careers, it's inexcusable that they still get playing time.
3. The backups clearly have out earned the starters except for Asante and Amari, and need more time.
4. I think it's time to hand the reigns to Tate Rodemaker. The season is over at this point we need to start developing the real future of this program.
I say all of this respectfully as a true fan of the program, and I wish all the kids and coaches the best.
Dorsey Hairston ....we can only expect deja vu til this gets cleaned up by clearing out the weeds....
Wow that bold head guy refused to give Miami credit he even ask what s the difference between Miami this year and last year, that made him sound like a jerk.
This is the first time I am going to agree with Corey and Ira. I am calling for a youth movement now. These season doesn't matter anyway.
Well, Saban went on public with the comment that somma his players wont make it to the bus if they dont want to contribute to the team. Norvell can damn sure say the same thing. Hurt feelings be damned.
Nick can say that with an abundance of talent walking around..those words are career suicide for Mike Norvell at this point because these players will literally boycott and not play..they’ve already done it when they accused him of lying
@Ant Davis
Too all...Norvell has nothing to lose at this point. Make a thinly veiled threat and put it on the players shoulders. They big enough to make their own damn decisions.
These AAC COACHES isnt going to do it...
@T Po1994 So right. There is a complete personel and culture changed needed and it will not happen in two games.
@@Amari_Antique21-el6uv He was Asst Head Coach at Arizona State before taking the Memphis Head Coaching Job.
@@westendmed u silly if you think FSU is going fire norvell after this season this year.
At least Norvell is organized, right? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Norvell was not at the game.
They feel sorry for these player, I say scew that.
lmaoo...right!
🤣
I believe the so called veteran players were recruited by Jimbo. They're still in their feelings about him leaving even though it was three years ago.
Hahaha geeeesh, that's rich
Definitely, imagine thinking you are gonna play for him and then surprise, you get to play for morons instead.
The kids who didn't transfer immediately are idiots and they got exactly what they deserve by staying to play for shit coaches that never wanted you in the first place.
Shiii....I went to sleep at halftime. I de-committed until next week. 😆
Does anyone remember when Danny Kanell said that FSU was closer to winning than Miami? How's that theory working out so far?
Well we will see if Miami that real deal when they play Clemson..... in when your they quarterback gone next year... they just got a good transfer... that’s it... when he gone back to the old Miami...
@@nathanieljemison1702 Don't get it twisted, I don't think we'll beat Clemson and I don't think we're world beaters. The DL isn't elite level without Rousseau and I think that's critical to be championship caliber. I'm just pointing out how dumb Danny looks right now. Also, I think Manny has a QB type for Lashlee's uptempo spread. If he can have success with King, he'll be able to convince similar caliber QBs to commit. If not,, King hasnt lost any eligibility. We'll be fine. FSU is currently in circling the drain and in their Al Golden phase. Dont be mad that I'm enjoying the train wreck. I'm sure you enjoyed it when it was our turn.
2001Canes BestEver not mad .. remember we were the last team to win a national championship in the state of Florida.. in heisman winner... never mad... but enjoy your win in congratulations on it... have a good rest of the season
No, because FSU fans don't listen to Danny Kanell 🤣 congrats on the win
Rodemaker Do your thing Norvell Auburn went 2& 9 year before they played us in title game 2014 young guys keep working we fsu more Dogs coming
The Recruiting class for 21 is not going to be good probably in the 30s. Florida has a top5 class and the U has a top 10 class.
So its no longer how unorganized the teams coach is...now its horrible players... life is funny
Fuller is a horrible defense coach. What the hell was plays was he calling
Research his past credentials.....the truth will set you free. It’s too bad fsu hirees aren’t paying any attention to that or perhaps they pretty much know and don’t give a (fill in the blank)
You gotta love all these excuses that Mike Norvell and Co. are receiving. Shocking. 🤣
It won't last, Adam Fuller will get the heat first, then Norvell.
@@noshotnova2432 Norvell is the reason why Fuller is the DC. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
This is the coach y’all wanted.
This was FSU's 6th offer, Norvell wasn't who they wanted.. 6 offers declined until they fell on Norvell.
Kristoph Stjames Couldve kept the guy they had then instead of paying 18 million dollars for a lateral move.
Should have given Jimbo what he wanted..with all the money they spent they could have easily given Fisher the Indoor Facility he requested. Fisher never wanted to leave FSU, he left because the AD was a tool.
Kristoph Stjames there was probably more to it than that.
U god damn right this is the coach we wanted how this comment looking now that we’re 10-0
2011, Jimbo went with a youth movement in the champs sports bowl vs a much better ND team at that point. He started all new Olineman, with freshmen WRs and we struggled. But in the end the game was won. That move alone because he knew Winston was coming the next year, propelled them to the 2013 NC! You have to sometimes suffer and make difficult choices to ultimately achieve your major goal.
But we don't have no WINSTON....
FSU,dropped the ball by not giving jimbo what he wanted.. now we stuck with 2 tier coaches,some coaches are glad to be coaching at a school like Fsu.... just look at there resume!!!!
@@taftkid7365 You totally missed my point, the point is sometimes you have to go with youth. You cant keep going with what you have if you know they are not in the future. Purdy, Altmyer, Rodemaker, whomever can be a Winston with the right team around them you dont know yet. You have to build it now and make a stance. Winsto was good but he also had a stellar oline (bc of jimbo playing them early and they grew together) and veteran rbs, (freeman, wilder,) a top TE and wrs who grew up in that ND game.
I was at that game and I remember I was nervous about that starting lineup at O-line... 17 year old Bobby Hart... And even more worried at halftime! But I was celebrating 2 years later when that line was grown up and paying off. People just need to chill and accept that we're going thru it now. Not fun to watch AT ALL. But these growing pains are inevitable for a program that has had the experience of the past 3 years, unfortunate but it's reality. True fans will give this staff a chance and not be lost like some of these players seem to be. It's hard but it's not like we have many options roster wise. Now it's time to invest in the future. Most Noles fans have never known anything like this with our beloved team. Have some faith and hope, and patience. There's a lot of young guys on the roster that are desperate to get a chance to make a difference. It's gonna be a tough road but they need us to have faith in them. This thing will turn around in due time.
@@SM-ql8ty My point exactly!! I was at the clemson game in 05' and just thinking we are never going to get back to relevance, but we did it will happen gotta recruit recruit recruit!
This offense can’t get the little play makers we do have the ball!! The scheme is awful on both sides of the ball!!
Terry hasn't been open the last 2 weeks all our production is coming from the freshmen
This the same offense Kendall Briles was running. This style of offense sucks man, we need to line up in a real pro style offense. The plays we running taking to long to develop. That youngster Tate was making some throws and getting rid of the ball.
@@BelieveInMe1986 Terry is a head case. he got into a heavy heated argument with WR’s coach and former player Ron Dugan’s. they tried their best to hide it but alot of people still saw it. that’s why he didn’t play the rest of the game.
Bobby Bonilla Bobcat %100 correct. And it’s gonna take years to fix
@@MrHADouble I didn't see it, but I'm glad he was yanked.
Another week and another video SLAMMING Blackman....did you not watch the terrible play by the OLine??? Which has been an issue for like 5 years! The guy literally couldn’t go through his reads and they say he stares down his receivers...he doesn’t have time to look around! Lol! Our talent isn’t there, the culture isn’t there, and the COACHING isn’t there!!! A coaches job is to take the talent you have and make the most of it. Again we made NO adjustments to win. The running game had some good plays but we didn’t go to it enough...lots of misdirection and getting Toafili and Travis involved! And the defensive scheme appears to be let them catch it and then tackle but hell thats giving them 5-6 yards a play! Smh!
Can we really blame the OLINE when toafili had 64 yards on 8 carries..our receivers can’t get separation or run routes..aside from go routes and slants they don’t do anything else..and Blackman has poor mechanics..he’s late on a lot of passes because his delivery is too long
Chris Thompson there is a big deference between run blocking and pass blocking...our OLine has been terrible at pass blocking for a minute. The game starts in the trenches...the run game and short passing attack works because the OLine can hold for that initial push but for the passing plays that need time for routes to develop they can’t give the QB time. I’m not saying that Blackman is a great QB...not even a good one but if he isn’t even given a chance then we can’t blame him!
J. Biv Blackman needs a running game..OLINE gets confidence from said running game..I’m not blaming him for our mishaps..but he certainly ain’t exempt either..i don’t think we’re asking too much of him to take command of the offense..he doesn’t change protections he doesn’t call audibles he doesn’t make checks or hits his check down much..he forces throws into coverage.. and aborts the moment he sees a rusher..he had time to make better throws he just doesn’t move well in the pocket to keep plays alive..deshaun Watson has the same OLINE issues but not the same production..he keeps plays alive
The entire team is trash. The problem is with the players. Losers, quitters etc. They should be underdogs for the rest of the reason. They have given up and this season is a wash.
FORFEIT the season these players look nothing like a college team that,s Reality
Coach has to clean house.
FSU NEEDS TO CLEAN HOUSE..NEED NEW COACH..WATCH IT WILL GET WORSE..
Clear house we need a pro coach offense and defense coaches are too soft players soft too
@IAmaPersion Disagree jimbo stayed in their faces
I respect this platform. You guys help me stay update. Blaming Blackman and mentioning him after every other sgement won't help. Can he play better? Obviously. The worst part of this team is the offensive line and it's been that way for at least 6 years. No matter if Blackman sucks or if he was Trevor Lawrence if he doesn't have time to get to his 2nd progression then it doesn't matter. Football is pretty simple. You have to win in the trenches.
You are so right, i don't care for Saban, but i have to give him credit,when he takes over a program that's one of the FIRST things he does is start building his off.and def. LINES. And other than Tua, Saban proves that you can win with an average qb, playing behind a good/great line.
@@rocjones6543 yeah man. Dominating the trenches makes life easier. I believe we will get there. By year 4 we will be costing at the top of the ACC
It does not matter which quarterback plays, that whole team needs high level coaching but hasn’t had it since jimbo last years...
Keep that same energy that you had the last 2 years. Be consistent!
You get what you fucking deserve! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I dont know where these coaches come from but u can't play football like that in the south.That play calling was for high schools in the mid west.
You have to have a QB that can execute the offense and FSU does not have it.
They are actually from the South. Norvell is from the Dallas area and played his college ball in Arkansas and has been the head coach at Memphis before coming to FSU. He has nothing to do with the Midwest.
Man this poverty in trailerhassee pleases me🔥🙌
Norvell is in over his head. He needs to resign. Worst I've ever seen FSU look.
Yep should have went after mike leach a real coach
You don't know much about football! You said Phillips had no impact but he had a sack and int in 1quater! That sounds like a impact to me.
Excuse after excuse. The team looked like don't care. Adam Fuller needs to go. Next man up that wants to win. There are no excuses. This team has sucks four years in a row. Time to make dramatic changes in coaching staff and players. Fsu season is over once again. This was a embarrassment for the University and football team. This FSU FOOTBALL. They need heart 1 win from here on out. This season is OVER.
@@johnshields8992 Enjoy the win. Clemson won't be beating in Deaf Valley. Miami don't have the depth to hang with Clemson. There third fourth and fifth string will beat Miami. Win lose or draw Nole blood raw. What excuse you will have when you team takes the beat down.
@@johnshields8992 Another thing John someone said on a show. Miami has not won a NATIONAL Championship or Acc Championship since joining the Acc. But you beat a team with 3 BCS TITLES AND 17 ACC TITLES. MIAMI HAS 0 ACC TITLES AND 0 NATIONAL TITLES IN THE ACC. NOT THE BIG EASY, BUT THE ACC.
@@johnshields8992 0 NATIONAL Championship in the Acc John. Not the big Easy. You're team is in the Acc conference. 0 Acc Championships John.
@@johnshields8992 Come in 2 weeks, l will say the same eat that beat down.
@@johnshields8992 John you're team lost 7 years to the Noles. Enjoy the win. Come 2 weeks you won't be no were to be found. You seniors won't win a Acc Championship or make the PLAYOFFS and NATIONAL Championship this year.
So now it's the players.
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Change the dam defense the three man front is not fsu football this dam defense coornader fuller he is not the guy dam that guy called the same bad playes two weeks ago this is worst than Taggard can these guys coach .
It wil work IF you have a real space eater NT and you must have top DEs which are no present.
Mickey Andrews , can you please come back?
He should have been the Coach after Bowden...
Maaaaan......I’m with you on that one......throw in Kendal briles.....enjoyed his attempt at flashiness
Everybody making excuses. Players and coaches pointing figures at each other. Culture issues. Norvell and Willie are having the same issues. Neither HC thus far has stepped up and went with their recruits. Shame shame shame on both coaches. Let’s hope Norvell gets it and FSU fans and boosters be more patient with him for the long haul rebuild. GO NOLES!
One of the keys to Norvell's success at Memphis was a FAMILY ATTITUDE within the team. Everyone covered each others back. He inherited a great group of players from Fuente when he took over at Memphis. If you function as a TEAM and really care about each other..you can achieve great things...even with a bunch of 2 and 3 star players. It's all about attitude and committment. Right now.....that is not at FSU. Give it time. I am a Memphis alum from Florida and saw Norvell do some great things with less talent that is available to a school in Florida like FSU. He is inheriting problems and it will take time to fix it.
@Ant Davis I am not totally sold on Fuller. He did a great job at Marshall and that is why Norvell hired him last year at Memphis. He spent one year at Memphis and did improve our defense but....it was pretty bad to start with. Memphis won a lot of games based on the offense ....despite poor performances by the defense. Memphis hired former Ole Miss Def Coordinator and Colorado Head Coach Mike MacIntyre to replace Fuller...so we may have improved ourselves on defense. We held Ark State to 24 points and they went on to beat Kansas State their next game 35-31. That is our only game so far this year.
And after you wrote that 2 years ago. That is where FSU is today. a team that is completely different, guya that play as a team, And have that family mentality. Your comment came true my friend. It only took three years but florida state is feeling good with Mike Norvell.
I agree with Corey we can't win with Blackman.
Everything is Blackman fault.. he had a good drive and scored the only TD!! Lmao
Y’all are clown and Norvell can’t do no wrong in y’all eyes! Smh
teemo284 he also threw an int in the redzone on a late slant route.. and almost all his passes ended up on the sideline..he was also in and out switching with Jordan on that first drive..but go ahead as you were saying
@@christhompson3489 all 3 FSU qb's threw int's
Greg he’s an upperclassman with experience making freshman mistakes stop it..you wouldn’t start him on your own squad chill
I grew up with coaches like Bobby Knight and Lou Holtz, Seems like coaches are afraid of the players, afraid to hurt their feelings, and what they may tweet. If you don't control your players, the players will control you. Don't be afraid of losing a losing player. I'll take effort over talent anyday.
This is becoming an issue for sure, the current generation of players being the worst yet.
Give up 52 points and they're annoyed at the QB?
I am a CANE FAN.
Jimbo is & was the problem when he lied to the program & disappeared on the team. Jombo left FSU in a deep hole. What do you do when you are in a deep hole?
"Stop digging" Coach Taggart is a good coach who left Oregon to come to his dream job, turned out to be a bad dream. "Reap what you soe FSU"
What do I do when I am in a deep hole ???? Hope to God the condom does not break......i will leave now.
But seriously....why would you think Taggert is a good coach ?? In 13 years of coaching...what has he done. And Norvell too...they both are not very impressive.
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Hopefully this is finally rock bottom. Need to start benching guys with no effort
If we lose yo Jacksonville state next week...That would be rock bottom
@@Supergoat76 they will lose to them.
LMAO. Lashlee is the biggest difference maker, I'm letting you know as a Miami fan. King is 2nd but Lashlee brought that attitude and swag on offense and his system puts playmakers in space
An applause where it’s due of course.....the hurricanes are arising towards the top.....only one thing Miami needs to do before they can announce their return.....you must defeat the tigers of clemson then finally take down an decent SEC school, otherwise, I’d say you aren’t there yet....those are your big measuring sticks which your team must over come
@@knighttemplar221 I'm not saying Miami is back but at least there seems to be an engine and the car is pointed in the right direction for now
Yes Dave Clawson is Leaving WF
I said this a few weeks ago none of FSU starters will start on any top four team in the playoffs and that’s where we want to be the impact players are overrated that’s on the team
Temorion Terry needs to opt out.
The Miami DBs owned him. They did everything but put a saddle on him and ride him around the field....
The excuses
Every excuse in the book for Norvell!! Lol
Well'p guess what the same players will play, even Blackman. Because the coaching staff feels sorry that( these player have been given a raw deal and we feel sorry for them) because we dont want to hurt there feelings, I know players have feelings, but Football players are supposed to be mentally tough and should want to be coached hard, not oh my God please dont hurt my feelings. Im a Nole and have been since 1987 and always will be and these players need to put there big boy pants on and quit crying saying (its not my fault it's the deal I got). Coach Bowden though he loved all his players they would be benched and they would earn it, Coach Bowdens famous words are ( You can't Quit because you will have Adversity, you cant quit). These players quit not all but most do. You FSU coaches today can't say in private well this is what we are left with, you are SELF PROCLAIMED coaches, man up and make the right changes you know is right, no matter hurting feelings. Denzel Washington said in a movie, I know it's a movie but, statement ( Dont patronize these players because your not helping them your crippling them). I know what he was referring to, I'm not saying that, what I'm say is if FSU players keep making mistakes bench them be hard on them and make them earn it. This face value (I give a damn) isn't working.
I know my comment was long, I get it, but this is were i stand.
Its first and 10 on our 15 and these dumb as coaches got us in a nickel defense.I just dont get it
Karma is a mutha! Taggart was never really given a real chance to succeed. This is the second straight game that the opposing QB should have been in Garnet and Gold. Play calling is terrible and the defensive schemes are suspect to say the least. When (We) go up against Jacksonville Norvell will be hailed as a savior again..... But...I'm a Nole4Life!
Sam Sneed Jeff sims a turnover machine and any QB will ball out if they aren’t being affected by a pass rush. FSU D-Line suck can’t even fire off the ball
We’re now 10-0 after a 3rd straight win over Miami and the #4 recruiting class currently with a heisman trophy candidate QB…the phoenix really did rise from the ashes🍢🍢🍢
3 Front defense is what Golden brought to Miami. Miami fans hated it. FSU fans loved it.
I think you all are being WAY to hard on these guys! Marvin Wilson and company have been so focused on social media campaigns that they just havent had the time to put in to the weight and film rooms! Cmon, people-what do you expect under such oppressive conditions, 100% effort? Geesh!!!
Mike Norvell inherited a bad team. I'm not blaming him for this beat down from Miami. I have given up with watching or keeping up with the Seminoles, because the team has given up and not trying to make a good impression for the their fans, school nor NFL scouts. If I were an NFL scout, I wouldn't consider any of the players from FSU.
It's shameful to see Florida State being this bad. They had two weeks to prepare for Miami and get beat down 52 to 10. I don't see them winning any more games. All of the teams on their schedule are playing with a pulse and are looking way better than the Seminoles. It's going to be historic that the Seminoles probably winning only one game this year. I wouldn't draft any of the players from FSU into the NFL, because they're garbage.
Horrible Play Calling! AND THERE ARE SOME BAD APPLES ON THIS TEAM....YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE!!! SOME OF YOU DONT DESERVE TO BE ON THE FEILD ESPECIALLY AT FSU!! IF YOU CANT GIVE YOUR ALL THEN GET THE HELL OUT OF TALLY!!!
Just goes to show you its NOT THE COACHING STAFF. The coaches cannot go out there and play. To many individual A**holes out there. Bench the lazy players, change the QB.
We need a new team period... we need another Nick Saban who passionate about his players, he's not afraid to get on your a** including let you ride the bench the whole couple games. It's not the QB fault, it's everyone fault. I don't point fingers at one person. The coaches needs to say, okay you don't wanna play bye 👋 and that should go the exact same way to the coaches. It start from the head person all the way down to the players. They lost there motivation. They set in there ways and the only way to break that is too just cut them loose or bench them. I'm tired of seeing them losing for no reason when I no they can get back up in show out, I just understand why.
Why are you guys not going at Fuller his scheme was horrible. Players don't come to FSU to play a 3-3-5. Fuller showing he not ready for coaching at the Power 5 level.
You get rid of a coach and 21 games karma is real and the same thing is happening now but worser very fishy if you was going to hire a coach you should hire a veteran coach I would have gave Mike Leach whatever he wanted to come to Florida State he's a old school coach and he demand respect if you're not doing what he wants you to do you will be running Stadium steps he doesn't play no games and that is why he wins a lot of games Texas Tech was not nothing before he got there Washington State wasn't nothing before he got there goes to Mississippi State and knock off LSU that Air Raid Offense is looking good multiple of our talent wide receivers will be on the field at the same time wrong hire what happened to huddling up and making sure everybody knows their responsibilities you can't go fast with a team that's constantly having pre-snap penalties
Start over play the young guys terry and Wilson need to leave they loosing money
Wilson should have been gone right after that, “we ain’t practicing until further notice” stunt. Shows you can undermine the coach and get away with it. That’s not a leader.
Terry is overrated
I say it again. You criticize Wilson, but where is the outlast on the coach for LYING. Care to comment.
Welcome to my world. Only a few seasons you guys have not dominated. You're coach is not the man. Realize that now and get rid of him quickly. From a U fan
Were we too hard on Briles/Clements/Barnett, et al?
Defense coordinator has one more game where he gives up that many points with two weeks to prepare he needs to go the bad two weeks 52 points when they lay back
I thought it was a bad move to bring him HERE from Memphis. They don't play real defense there.
Roc Jones we need sec coordinators or pro coaches to bring in high quality players you see what LSU did last year great staff
@@andrex4412 I agree, but fsu says they don't have sec/ pro. $$$.
Roc Jones it’s going to be a a rebuilding process hit the transfer porter jucos walk on players start with defense
@@rocjones6543 his defenses were also terrible, he gave up 400 yards rushing in his last game.
Boys like Wilson will be the reason I quit watching college football, just like the NFL. Punks like him don't deserve to play. Lots of young talent here to replace him with. Little boys like him think they're the next Colin Kaepernick, like he's some kind of role model or something. What the.....
Everybody blaming Wilson, but NOONE has blamed the coach for LYING in first place. Feel free to comment.
What have y'all done with FSU football? That was a Complete embarrassment
The culture has grown accustomed to losing smh.. we need to recruit some linemen both on o line and defense. We have no run blocking, and we have tun stuffers on d line but those guys too heavy to pass rush. We use to get there with 4 up front
This is why u shouldn't hate on a team so bad like FSU does humble pie will always bring you back to reality 🤷♂️
Chubba bubba who😲😲😲
What's scary is these are still the Jimbo guys. They haven't really gotten to the Willie recruited guys yet.
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Lolol...oh jeez don’t say that. For all you know they might be better.
@@doubleboy2388 asante, nasirildeen, the starting d line, two or 3 of the o lineman, Blackman, terry, Wilson, Helton, even more... alot of them are jimbo dudes. That 18 percent or whatever you made up are guys getting most of the playing time. I could care less about the roster. That starting 22 is alot of jimbo.
WE NEED A QB .. CHBBA PURDY EILL GOVE THEM SOMETHING TO PLAY FOR!!!! GO NOLES
FSU haves alot of problems..N dont think will clean up no time soon..wrong coach for that job..
All the top QB recruits and other positions that didn't come to FSU, Did they see something wrong here?
Stop blaming Blackman the defense aint stop nothing. You guys just want chubba playing.
One year later Blackman is gone Chubba transferred and Travis is your starting QB and we beat Miami
great coaching
You guys should have hired Deion .. would have changed the culture like Miami did hiring Ed Reed ..
Number 9 looks good
19 more games
No shot money mike gets fired