@@akaDOOD you really think the 60 year old mushroom user and pot smoker who hasn't had a fight since fucking 2005, and dont say that bullshit roy jones fight, would've knocked out a 25 year old who's been training for years... keep living in your own delusion buddy retards like you made the gambling sites bank
That's not what he said, he said " If he wanted to he could've knocked Jake out" & I agree, because most of these kind of "fights" are pre determined with clauses in the contract anyone who thinks otherwise is a clown.
@@RealHavokz Tyson is an absolute legend and one of the greatest, but the dude didn't throw for cash. It was a legit fight and Paul won fair and square, saying otherwise is disrespecting Tyson's character
Let's be fair, both has plenty of opportunities. Jake definitely more so. If Tyson tried to throw any more punches he would been on all fours round 5 😂
Optic podcast is just a short talk. Still fun but even like Rogan says hour 2 and 3 you have no clue what you’re talking about and that’s when the funny conversations come out
^ None of yall know what yall are talking about lol ^ Jake Paul vs Mike Tyson was sanctioned as a professional boxing match in Texas and counts towards both fighters pro records.
@@DylGonZo he’s mainly a media influenced turned boxer he don’t count & Tyson 60 year old retired boxer lol even if it’s counted as a pro fight it really isn’t though is it.
Maniac is correct! Age doesn’t care who you once were, doesn’t care you were a hall of fame boxer. You can’t beat what you can’t hit and it was obvious Mike couldn’t get into range. With his knees messed up there was no way he could pivot or find any angles!
@@rz1518 be careful bro your talking too much sense. The twitch chat dweebs are going to say Tyson was holding back because they saw him hitting the bag and pads much harder.
@ I agree they did it for money and probably had some contract, but seeing Tyson in the ring he clearly could not keep up. Bro almost passed out every round after round 3
@@KinggJettAnd the earth is flat too huh? Fixing a sanctioned pro fight is a felony 😂 You think they’d do it in front of 60million people and then leak the contracts? Give your head a shake 😂
Hecz what happened with the UFC is they signed a deal with ESPN which forces them to hold 42 live events a year thus spreading out the talent pool. You are right though, they can’t stack the cards like they used to and provide the same excitement level
Hex is 100% right all the people in the comments that are Jake stands are hilarious anybody with any sense knows that every word that he said what is 100% fact. We all know that obviously it was Jake's promotion just like always fights and it's under his terms and his contracts like heck said you could tell in his training versus after the first round Mike Tyson wasn't even trying after the first round.
@@joshvaughn6807 You’re so clueless man stick to gaming you know nothing about combat sports…. Imagine comparing how someone hits the pads to then ring, especially when he’s 60…. I can guarantee you’ve never stepped foot in a gym or a ring in your life.
Nah you’ve just never done combat sports and have no idea what you’re talking about. Jakes a pos but he easily outclassed 60 years old Mike Tyson 😅Go back and watch Tysons last 5 fights and you’ll see he was losing it for a long time
@@Exzactz They are clueless TH-cam kids who think they know boxing. Can guarantee 99% of them never stepped foot in a gym or a ring cos if you think a 60yo is holding back against a 27 year old in his prime training for 7 years with the best coaches and gyms you know nothing. It makes me cringe listening to these dogsh*t opinions on combat sports from these twitch chat dweebs
@ These dudes who have never stepped foot in a gym or a ring telling us a 60yo man was holding back in a fight because they saw him hit the bag and pads really hard. It’s painful to listen to the absolute 🤡🤡🤡
Yall see how Scump praises Area 99 and Shottzy says its the worst map ever made? Scump finally getting the Activision check 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 long time coming congratulations bro
I love everyone that is ever on the OpTic podcast.. BUT add Formal to this line up (Hecz, BoZe, Scump, NiaC) and its a true 11/10 podcast.. miss the days when Formal was consistently in the pod.
Hecz… Mike wasn’t going to knock Jake out as much as we WANTED that to happen. Nick… the fight was absolutely scripted in some manner. Jake literally bowed to him with seconds left on the clock at the end and then the press conference. He said that he didn’t feel like hitting anyone that didn’t deserve to be hurt. So why did you guys fight then????? Real boxing is gone man. It’s all about the money now and how much people can flex how much they have of it.
@ no one has cared for actual real boxing matches in a while as far as I’ve seen. Canelo might be the only one I see anyone give attention to still that feels real.
Mike needed the money. He has always had a VERY lavish lifestyle and was running out of money quick. Sure, he was tired after 2 rounds blah blah blah. Thats because he wasnt allowed to go knock Jake out within a round or two like he normally would otherwise we wasnt getting paid. Imagine he was allowed to go out there, use all his energy in one quick burst and be done with the fight within a rough, he wouldve. Sure, he still might not have knocked Jake out, ran himself out of energy even quicker and still lost, but atleast it wouldnt have been scripted at he couldve actually shown to everyone what he was still able to do but instead it was a drawn out stamina match purely to be paid
Niac needs to stop shittin on himself. I played against him during the race and he was lowkey gunning my shit. He was chilling in spawn a lil to long😂…but still was frying my shit.
Hector is a nostalgia merchant. That’s fine, I love Mike but saying Mike could have won if he wanted to is extreme cope. If he was as big a Mike fan as he thinks then he knows Mike would never lose on purpose/not try for all the money in the world.
Maniac like the rest of casual boxing watchers don't know that these kind of fights are pre determined like Hecz said with clauses, It still baffles me how people couldn't see both fighters were holding back, Mike could've knocked Jake out & vice versa.
@@RealHavokz It was pre determined to protect Mike Tyson otherwise Jake Paul could have seriously hurt him. Old men don’t come back well from hard punches.
@ of course it’s a win, win Mike gets a nice payout & doesn’t get hurt & Jake gets a notch on his record without getting hurt with also a nice payout, easy money.
Hecs has some faded boxing takes lol….but Nick thinking Mike vs Jake Paul is not predetermined is some of the most delusional thinking I have ever heard. Keep up the great content guys.
The best way to explain to Nick about the fight… Tyson actually fighting would be a Gorilla vs a chimpanzee. Tyson never threw any of his signature punches.
Weird comparison. I’m not even a basketball fan but LeBrons got the most pts EVER in the NBA. He’s been dominating for 20 years lol he’s far and away the best player to play that game. Objectively speaking at least. Them old heads love MJ but 1v1 in their primes, MJs getting SMOKED
fights not rigged hes 60 ofc he dont got the intensity he had in his prime 30 years ago on top of that mike is known to eat punches but at 60 ur not gonna be able to do that without taking irreversible damage to ur brain and body😭
It’s so dumb. I can’t stand Jake Paul but he could have ended that ”fight” anytime he wanted. Mike gassed out after like 2mins. Tyson fans just doesn’t wanna see it.
Nah mike was holding back for sure he slapped the shit outta that boy just the day before the fight… the kid is a youtuber not a boxer, of course the fight was predetermined cmon man do be so gullible
Fight was rigged. Mike pulled his punches but he also is 58 or whatever so who ever took it serious had another issue. Stop watching someone ruin a sport. The co main event was boxing not the main event
you know you're in trouble when Nick Maniac Kershner is the voice of reason
Facts 😂
Right now maniac is the best part of optic. He cracks me up all the time
hecz has become the old man yelling at clouds meme
he has been for a while lmao
He is 100% correct about the Tyson & Paul fight
lmao, Hecz is convinced any old athlete is the best to ever exist. even when they’re 60 fighting a 25 year old
@@akaDOOD you really think the 60 year old mushroom user and pot smoker who hasn't had a fight since fucking 2005, and dont say that bullshit roy jones fight, would've knocked out a 25 year old who's been training for years... keep living in your own delusion buddy retards like you made the gambling sites bank
@@akaDOOD100% wrong ya
Hecz must have missed Tyson stumbling while walking to the ring. No shot Mike was knocking him out.
That's not what he said, he said " If he wanted to he could've knocked Jake out" & I agree, because most of these kind of "fights" are pre determined with clauses in the contract anyone who thinks otherwise is a clown.
@xHavokZzx95 Mike was dead tired after 2 rounds lol 😂
@@RealHavokz Tyson is an absolute legend and one of the greatest, but the dude didn't throw for cash. It was a legit fight and Paul won fair and square, saying otherwise is disrespecting Tyson's character
@ Tyson barely threw a punch he had plenty of openings where Jake wasn’t even defending himself 1 hook & Jake was out.
Let's be fair, both has plenty of opportunities. Jake definitely more so. If Tyson tried to throw any more punches he would been on all fours round 5 😂
hecz has generational "fake it till you make it" talent when talking about shit on the podcast lol
Flamesword to OpTic!! 6050 is the benchmark. Status Quo is moved under the OpTic umbrella (in whatever way makes sense). W
Scump. Bronana and Doug are always duo/quading I think an introduction would amazing times and vibes
From the first episodes in the heczquarters while the Cold War season was on til now is crazy. Great consistency fellas!
Butter can’t even open his eyes lmaoo
This being under an hour brings me so much pain
Optic podcast is just a short talk. Still fun but even like Rogan says hour 2 and 3 you have no clue what you’re talking about and that’s when the funny conversations come out
Close enough dawg
I can’t believe but also not surprised about this man’s nick 🤣🤣🤣
It’s so annoying when people who’ve never done combat sports are so wrong but speak with confidence 😂
Anyone else noticed the Optic Pod has been deleted from Spotify?
Yes and that’s where I’d listen to at work
I agree with Niac, Jake was 100% laying off in the later rounds
32:17 so funny. Scump switched the word rebirth for resurgence all faded. Happens sometimes
Hecz legit knows nothing about boxing
He knows this last fight was a exhibition match not a true boxing fight
@ true😂
He's right it wasn't a REAL Boxing fight Jake Paul isn't a Pro & Tyson is retired also with no title on the line hence its an exhibition.
^ None of yall know what yall are talking about lol ^
Jake Paul vs Mike Tyson was sanctioned as a professional boxing match in Texas and counts towards both fighters pro records.
@@DylGonZo he’s mainly a media influenced turned boxer he don’t count & Tyson 60 year old retired boxer lol even if it’s counted as a pro fight it really isn’t though is it.
Hecz is such an Old head LMAO Tyson couldn't even stand straight or throw a punch
Maniac is correct! Age doesn’t care who you once were, doesn’t care you were a hall of fame boxer. You can’t beat what you can’t hit and it was obvious Mike couldn’t get into range. With his knees messed up there was no way he could pivot or find any angles!
@@rz1518 be careful bro your talking too much sense. The twitch chat dweebs are going to say Tyson was holding back because they saw him hitting the bag and pads much harder.
It’s even more disrespectful for you to think Mike Tyson would fight a rigged fight vs a Disney kid
lets gooo
Yo Cam the legend. Glad to see your channel doing well again
Guest on the fly cast please Mannnnn
Can't wait to see Niac on the boat!
hecz def didnt watch the fight bro it was sad watching mike trying to keep up
Go look up the contract Tyson couldn’t knock him out if he wanted the 20 mil your crazy asf if you think Tyson was trying to..that was a cardio payday
@ I agree they did it for money and probably had some contract, but seeing Tyson in the ring he clearly could not keep up. Bro almost passed out every round after round 3
@@KinggJettAnd the earth is flat too huh? Fixing a sanctioned pro fight is a felony 😂 You think they’d do it in front of 60million people and then leak the contracts? Give your head a shake 😂
@ it’s public knowledge 😂.. you gotta do better bro 🤣🤣🤣
Mike has no power in his legs anymore if you know boxing you know he’s been done.
Hecz is hilarious thinking Tyson could murder Paul lol
Anyone know what is up with the podcast on Spotify? I can't see any of the podcasts anymore.
I fw the pod set up
I also heard they had a no knockout clause in the contract. Don't know how accurate that info is though.
Hecz what happened with the UFC is they signed a deal with ESPN which forces them to hold 42 live events a year thus spreading out the talent pool. You are right though, they can’t stack the cards like they used to and provide the same excitement level
Insane to not think that fight was staged!
No way hecz solo qued to diamond 😂
I love H3CZ but he straight up knows nothing about professional fighting lol
0 is just another number on the wheel. To think its trippin to bet it is a weird take. Same odds as betting any other number.
Edit to add thinking Tyson would have won that if he wanted too.
I've been having tons of fun in area 99.
Guys can we please* just not talk sports if everyone on the pod is severely misinformed, or just doesn’t bother to do research on these topics…?
Mostly hector lol
@ 99% Hector
W TAKE FROM NIAC ON TYSON VS JAKE
timestamp this and come back when Hecz tells us he hasn’t played pubs in 15 years
Can’t believe he believes those fights aren’t scripted 😂
I cant find the optic podcast on spotify
Hex is 100% right all the people in the comments that are Jake stands are hilarious anybody with any sense knows that every word that he said what is 100% fact. We all know that obviously it was Jake's promotion just like always fights and it's under his terms and his contracts like heck said you could tell in his training versus after the first round Mike Tyson wasn't even trying after the first round.
@@joshvaughn6807 You’re so clueless man stick to gaming you know nothing about combat sports…. Imagine comparing how someone hits the pads to then ring, especially when he’s 60…. I can guarantee you’ve never stepped foot in a gym or a ring in your life.
Nah you’ve just never done combat sports and have no idea what you’re talking about. Jakes a pos but he easily outclassed 60 years old Mike Tyson 😅Go back and watch Tysons last 5 fights and you’ll see he was losing it for a long time
@@Exzactz They are clueless TH-cam kids who think they know boxing. Can guarantee 99% of them never stepped foot in a gym or a ring cos if you think a 60yo is holding back against a 27 year old in his prime training for 7 years with the best coaches and gyms you know nothing. It makes me cringe listening to these dogsh*t opinions on combat sports from these twitch chat dweebs
@ These dudes who have never stepped foot in a gym or a ring telling us a 60yo man was holding back in a fight because they saw him hit the bag and pads really hard. It’s painful to listen to the absolute 🤡🤡🤡
Just say you have no idea what you're talking about and move on
What happened to the OpTic podcast on Spotify? All of them are removed
Yall see how Scump praises Area 99 and Shottzy says its the worst map ever made? Scump finally getting the Activision check 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 long time coming congratulations bro
bro is still in a lawsuit against them lmao
Uh oh here come all the arm chair boxers and fighters lol 😂
Maniac's boxing takes are horrendous
He’s just a chill guy bro
@@Vinseenit It’s insane how Maniac is the only one who gets it. It’s because he’s actually been to a gym and trained with fighters before..
Hes the only one speaking facts
Is the Spotify channel down?
I love everyone that is ever on the OpTic podcast.. BUT add Formal to this line up (Hecz, BoZe, Scump, NiaC) and its a true 11/10 podcast.. miss the days when Formal was consistently in the pod.
Maniac is right about the boxing match
“I watch straight boxing” -$boze
Has been taken off Spotify for everyone else?
Maniac is insane to think it was a real fight !!
He’s delusional for thinkin Jake would stand a chance if Tyson really tried 😂😂😂
Maniac was spitting this pod
Nick we like you more than hecz first of all and second yes Jake could have ended it
Hecz… Mike wasn’t going to knock Jake out as much as we WANTED that to happen. Nick… the fight was absolutely scripted in some manner. Jake literally bowed to him with seconds left on the clock at the end and then the press conference. He said that he didn’t feel like hitting anyone that didn’t deserve to be hurt. So why did you guys fight then????? Real boxing is gone man. It’s all about the money now and how much people can flex how much they have of it.
Real boxing isn’t gone you’re just in the wrong isle brev
@ no one has cared for actual real boxing matches in a while as far as I’ve seen. Canelo might be the only one I see anyone give attention to still that feels real.
Mike needed the money. He has always had a VERY lavish lifestyle and was running out of money quick. Sure, he was tired after 2 rounds blah blah blah. Thats because he wasnt allowed to go knock Jake out within a round or two like he normally would otherwise we wasnt getting paid. Imagine he was allowed to go out there, use all his energy in one quick burst and be done with the fight within a rough, he wouldve. Sure, he still might not have knocked Jake out, ran himself out of energy even quicker and still lost, but atleast it wouldnt have been scripted at he couldve actually shown to everyone what he was still able to do but instead it was a drawn out stamina match purely to be paid
OpTic guys pissed people play the 0's on roulette lol. Thought this was the Greenwall? 😛
Niac needs to stop shittin on himself. I played against him during the race and he was lowkey gunning my shit. He was chilling in spawn a lil to long😂…but still was frying my shit.
I think he does it a lot as well because he's surrounded by some of the best of all time and compares himself to them lol
i actually got pissed how hecz genuinely believes mike held back, when it was legit the opposite. nostalgia speakin
”Halo kids don’t defuse” FormaL
The ad truly couldn’t be any longer.
Tell nick to vlog it for him if he can’t live stream it
I miss the podcast desk
NiaC needs to find those clips showing Mike pulling back jabs.. trust
Hezc the champ got suspended for the headbumps recently
Have yall not seen the clips?? Tyson was OBVIOUSLY holding back
Tyson could barely stand fam…
Hecz and his 90s nostalgia bias
Tyson got fucked up at the end of his career 20 years ago. He’s 60 now!
Hector is a nostalgia merchant. That’s fine, I love Mike but saying Mike could have won if he wanted to is extreme cope. If he was as big a Mike fan as he thinks then he knows Mike would never lose on purpose/not try for all the money in the world.
That Pine Park hitting Boze and Hecz hard af...
Only roulette I like watching is train wrecks gambling on rust
Maniac like the rest of casual boxing watchers don't know that these kind of fights are pre determined like Hecz said with clauses, It still baffles me how people couldn't see both fighters were holding back, Mike could've knocked Jake out & vice versa.
That wasn't even a boxing match. It was just a live movie for people to gobble up and waste their money.
@@SDTheGhost23 yep exactly.
@@RealHavokz It was pre determined to protect Mike Tyson otherwise Jake Paul could have seriously hurt him. Old men don’t come back well from hard punches.
@ of course it’s a win, win Mike gets a nice payout & doesn’t get hurt & Jake gets a notch on his record without getting hurt with also a nice payout, easy money.
@@RealHavokz mike could not have knocked Jake Paul out tho. Thinking that is hilarious
how do people not remember the Ad-pocalypse during 2016 for the terrorist vids smh prime drama alert era
We agree with you Maniac
Hecs has some faded boxing takes lol….but Nick thinking Mike vs Jake Paul is not predetermined is some of the most delusional thinking I have ever heard. Keep up the great content guys.
Did they even talk about gaming culture in this video?
imagine believing it wasn’t in the contract for jake to win and tyson not to throw a real power punch 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
It would be a felony to rig that fight. Js
im here for maniac
No way Hecz actually watched the fight
Hecz buggin 😂 hes showin his age on this on thats like hecz saying he could knock out nick at the age hes at rn
I’m just a chill guy 😎
I really hate listening to people talk about the paul tyson thing, if you ever thought in any way shape or from that it was legit ya crazy.
It was a pro fight
The best way to explain to Nick about the fight…
Tyson actually fighting would be a Gorilla vs a chimpanzee. Tyson never threw any of his signature punches.
y’all so pressed about the boxing takes 😂 let them have an entertaining convo it’s funny stop getting on hecz he knows how to keep the convo live 😂
People act like this type of scripted shit isn’t real it’s been around in boxing for quite some time
Trust me its scripted within contracts.
Nick is trolling. He has to be
ikr
Hecz is so wrong on the Tyson stuff lol. Tyson was getting destroyed at the end of his careers and there’s a 30+ age difference.
i love how clueness nick is😭
You can tell hecz never boxed or did any type of combat sports. Shit is way more tiring than you think and age is a huge factor.
@HecZ They’ve never seen Tyson fight. They think Jake Paul is the greatest. Ask them who the goat is in basketball i guarantee they say LeBron
Weird comparison. I’m not even a basketball fan but LeBrons got the most pts EVER in the NBA. He’s been dominating for 20 years lol he’s far and away the best player to play that game. Objectively speaking at least. Them old heads love MJ but 1v1 in their primes, MJs getting SMOKED
fights not rigged hes 60 ofc he dont got the intensity he had in his prime 30 years ago on top of that mike is known to eat punches but at 60 ur not gonna be able to do that without taking irreversible damage to ur brain and body😭
Jake fought 1 avg real boxer and he lost, come one lads what are we saying here
0% chance hecz got to diamond solo q😂😂
I cant stand these boxing takes lol, hecz still thinks mike tysons in his 80-90s era its sad
Fo realll, he literally stumbled walking to the ring 😂
Its a exhibition match
@@kndli67incorrect. It was a pro match
@@ryanhallam3535 They are so clueless man it makes me cringe. He’s literally a 60yo old man and they think he’s holding back
It’s so dumb. I can’t stand Jake Paul but he could have ended that ”fight” anytime he wanted. Mike gassed out after like 2mins. Tyson fans just doesn’t wanna see it.
another short podcast 😢
hecz has so many random rules for himself lol
Maniac it’s right 100%
Nah mike was holding back for sure he slapped the shit outta that boy just the day before the fight… the kid is a youtuber not a boxer, of course the fight was predetermined cmon man do be so gullible
Anyone who thinks it was a legit boxing match has never watched real boxing or knows anything about boxing. Not saying 60yo can do magic but still..
Fight was rigged. Mike pulled his punches but he also is 58 or whatever so who ever took it serious had another issue. Stop watching someone ruin a sport. The co main event was boxing not the main event