Overwatch: How and When to Counter-Pick

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  • Picking effectively in Overwatch can be a crucial component of victory. Typically, if you read the game carefully you can find a core component that either pulls your team together or counters an enemy setup directly. This video shows a few examples of how to apply these ideas.
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  • @bigboss6145
    @bigboss6145 7 ปีที่แล้ว +163

    Top Tip: Ignore all of this. Just pick Hanzo and Genji every game. Your steady stream of shurikens and arrows should easily melt those tanks. Trust me, I'm Diamond.
    You're welcome.

    • @tawabunny
      @tawabunny 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      lol

    • @zeroday7878
      @zeroday7878 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      im diamond too and genji is un-reliable.. hanzo is a good pick tho

    • @smkmoments1306
      @smkmoments1306 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      iiShots Fired more like the other way around

    • @smkmoments1306
      @smkmoments1306 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      iiShots Fired but genji has a ton of counters

    • @user-ml2ng8ql1t
      @user-ml2ng8ql1t 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hanzo is literally the worst hero in the game...his only competition for worst is JUNKrat

  • @Diditallforthexp
    @Diditallforthexp 7 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Laminate? Granite? Counter picking is a big choice.

    • @brianzhou326
      @brianzhou326 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I get it :D

    • @DanielRomero-jt4db
      @DanielRomero-jt4db 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Diditallforthexp Marble?

    • @Diditallforthexp
      @Diditallforthexp 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Daniel Romero Exactly. I'm glad there's a video on it. It's not a very good video though, they don't mention how to install an island or even cutting in for an extra sink.

  • @johnparis2666
    @johnparis2666 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Could you do a shield guide for Winston/Reinhardt? Like specific locations to drop the barriers that are useful or where to setup on payload maps.

    • @micahshapiro9739
      @micahshapiro9739 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      And D.Va too! I'm curious to see your guys' thoughts on the idea of D.Va as a main tank!

  • @AlyssaGrawey
    @AlyssaGrawey 7 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    "Some of you would like to think that Zarya/Roadhog is an acceptable tank combination, and it's not." Shout it from the rooftops!

    • @Olorrangerr
      @Olorrangerr 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Alyssa Grawey please

    • @TacoYoMaMa
      @TacoYoMaMa 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Alyssa Grawey lol zarya is a good tanl

    • @TacoYoMaMa
      @TacoYoMaMa 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Alyssa Grawey * tank

    • @TacoYoMaMa
      @TacoYoMaMa 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Alyssa Grawey I have used her rather than rinheard plenty of times you just have to land them good shields roadhog is not a good tank to replace rinheard

    • @klutz3955
      @klutz3955 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      why not? with good comms my friend and I absoloutley melt the enemy team together

  • @lustercool2349
    @lustercool2349 7 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Whenever we talk about swapping/competitive problems there is always Hanzo in the thumbnail...

    • @77wolfblade
      @77wolfblade 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      dem Hanzo mains.

    • @diregambit7765
      @diregambit7765 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      don't forget he is the meme l0rd himself

    • @Gi0kay
      @Gi0kay 7 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Well think about it, what are Hanzo mains most likely to watch? Yes, Hanzo footage. What do Hanzo mains need? Yes, game knowledge. What do they get tricked into watching when there's a Hanzo in the thumbnail? Game knowledge. It's a good thing for every solo queue player :D

    • @noobiesensei6281
      @noobiesensei6281 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kodo Elder-Groebe Seagull doesn't main Hanzo, does he ? I thought he mained the little brother

    • @sEaNoYeAh
      @sEaNoYeAh 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Noobie Sensei Seagull is famous for his Genji play, but really he's a flexible player, and in relative terms his Mei is probably his greatest strength. He does play some Hanzo on streams though, sometimes to devastating effect, sometimes struggling to get a kill and then smartly switching to a more appropriate hero for the situation.

  • @zp6182
    @zp6182 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    When to swap: when your whole team is begging you to.
    ~The guy who always picks the 3rd dps

  • @damien3904
    @damien3904 7 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I am a Genji main, I wake up put on my suit grab my weapons and go to work, I claim I am the best but only play for the rare play of the game, yes winston jumps on me everytime and kills me but I still play Genji no matter what, I am a Genji main

    • @izzwith10z
      @izzwith10z 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Damien pls :(

    • @TacoYoMaMa
      @TacoYoMaMa 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Damien yeah let's go me too since the beginning of overwatch I have 0hours on all characters except geji wit the outstanding 102 hours

  • @mikelagrange4648
    @mikelagrange4648 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lots of more videos like this please. More scenarios. One of the best yet!

  • @seal6012
    @seal6012 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    6:33
    "Let me just backup into the bomb instead of turning around" lol

  • @ASimpleInternetUser
    @ASimpleInternetUser 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    We need 100,000 more of these videos. Even without the gameplay footage, this is just an important thing for everyone to know, and always be thinking about in game.
    It's just so hard to combine all the people who are in quickplay because some of the are just there for casual gaming or maybe even just mechanical practice with a hero they don't feel too comfortable with. So, if they're not caring about the outcome of the game, but you do...what are you supposed to do in those situations? Just leave? Concede the match and just try to have fun, until the next match starts? Those are the only two solutions I've found, but both of them are very "evasive" solutions; rather than ACTUALLY solving the problem, I'm just ignoring it.

  • @iamspeed403
    @iamspeed403 7 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I hope u *cough cough hanzo mains* are listening to this

    • @JonathannM4
      @JonathannM4 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      and junkrat mains

    • @TacoYoMaMa
      @TacoYoMaMa 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ExoticJohnny1165 mains in general

    • @RevCQ7
      @RevCQ7 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      are cancer to the game

  • @trogdor21997
    @trogdor21997 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really enjoy it when the focus of the video is presented in the gameplay, rather than talking about specific strategies with random gameplay. It helps a lot when you do it like this

  • @hallakrami113
    @hallakrami113 7 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    guys i dont want to be mean or anything but can you do any specific advanced guides for some heroes ut would be really usefull

    • @YourOverwatch
      @YourOverwatch  7 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Lots of news lately. Important for us to cover things that are current. But with no comp for a week nor any changes for the foreseeable future, things should have settled to a point where we can make more direct guides. The problem is, giving advice changes from patch to patch, so it's important for us to cover what should be current. With that being said, I definitely want to cover a few specific heroes that'll be key in this build of the game. -F

    • @deeku.4009
      @deeku.4009 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lots of news, and yet you're doing this very basic "How to counter pick video" ... and before that a "Toxicity problem" video... and before that "Top 10 tips for new players" ... and before that "Top 10 important terms to know" ? What in the world... the random videos are cray

    • @xRosaliax
      @xRosaliax 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      David Silva The last two you listed I think were to benefit new folks during the free weekend. Toxicity is a standing issue, and now counter picking is more current as more of the lineup is viable while the meta is realigning. They're not random, just not a progressive series.

    • @YourOverwatch
      @YourOverwatch  7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      We dont see how to counter pick as basic considering every genji ive ever seen never swaps against a winston -w

    • @mathieugirod6485
      @mathieugirod6485 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well said Freedo, Non-swap is also one of the main argument people use against the gold medal being given during a match and not only at the end of the match.
      So it's easy to see the link between this video the toxicity one and the gold fallacy at the start imo.

  • @affeCted6990
    @affeCted6990 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    There is still the chance that if you are good enough with a Hero you can also kill the ones that are there to counter you, works for me often enough, i most likely play widow and as soon as i see a winston charging me i try to headshot him while he is jumping to me, often enough i can apply enough dmg to fight him close distance and win , of course i have around 10-30hp then but still i got him and not the other way around but of course when i see i dont stand a chance i swap too, but most of the time i cant even pick widow because somehow most people totaly freak out asap you pick her, they begin to trollpick and stuff i dont know why , its just anoying or they begin to cry about why you picked her and shes useless and stuff. If you can play her efficently , shes so great to pick out the right ones and push your team forward, shes also good to apply good amounts of dmg from a safe distance..

  • @Xavio354
    @Xavio354 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Could you guys do a video in Winston vs. D.Va? since she got buffed I've heard a lot of people say that D.Va is just a better Winston. I disagree but I certainly see the similarities. Can you talk about when to pick one over the other?

    • @Tehstool
      @Tehstool 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Winston is able to more effectively kill/put damage on the squishy heroes while dva has huge ult denying potential. I wouldn't necessarily say she's a better winston because she can't block damage while shooting.

    • @noobiesensei6281
      @noobiesensei6281 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Xavier Their purpose are quite different imo. Winston is good at diving in, taking all the attention and suppressing the squishies, while D.Va is kind of a main tank enhancement imo. Having a Rein shield that shoot and absorb projectiles while regenerating is quite broken indeed. Yes, D.Va can dive on enemies, but she won't get the kill for sure, compared to Winston. But she is way more useful in frontal engagements than Harambe tho.

    • @sEaNoYeAh
      @sEaNoYeAh 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Their roles are different. Winston's shield creates space by establishing a large area only his team can fire through, whereas D.Va's shield is directional and relatively awkward for her team to use as protection while still firing at targets, but protects against effectively unlimited damage in that direction for its duration. Winston is better at chasing down targets, because his tesla cannon covers a wide area and is a constant stream whereas D.Va has to track shots, and she suffers a movement penalty while firing, which sometimes allows a quick target to escape. D.Va's ultimate is more situational and harder to get use out of, whereas Winston's always allows him to augment his survivability and disrupt. The D.Va buff hasn't affected this distinction between how the two heroes function.
      D.Va's the all rounder in the tank category and always has been, able to protect her team a little, do some damage, quickly switch between attack and defence. Winston is more nuanced: a creator of space, a disruptor, and counter flanker who can dive into the opponent backline to eliminate supports when he himself is properly supported (e.g diving in tandem with an attacker like Genji, given a Zarya shield, healed from afar by Ana or Zenyatta, or ideally all of the above).
      As for when to pick one or the other, the general rule is to avoid Winston when the other team is particularly tank heavy, or has both Reaper and Roadhog, or when your own team lacks the means to support him. D.Va is hard to shift thanks to her high health, and secondary health pool when out of the mech, but she's also very mobile, so she's a good choice when the team needs staying power or a tank that can contribute in all areas of the battle. As an all rounder it's harder to specify when precisely to pick her, but at the same her versatility doesn't allow her to perform the same role as Winston, or the other tanks.
      Edit: also for choke points there isn't really an alternative to Reinhardt. Even the world's foremost Winston player, Miro, will typically play Reinhardt instead specifically when attacking or defending a narrow choke point, like on Eichenwalde, and then switching to Winston later in the map.

    • @aphenine
      @aphenine 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pretty much what GhostSamurai said.
      As a Dva main who played her before she got popular, I'll add that, in the tank meta, I found her to come into her own when I started thinking of her as a DPS and not a main line tank. It was on this channel I found the term "main tank" when they referred to any hero with a shield who could regenerate or melt away damage. Winston can just about do this, Rein obviously can, but Dva can't.
      Dva is basically a burst tank. She can do all the tanky things that tanks can do, better than any of them, but for short amounts of time. Add to her mobility, she's really good at diving in, engaging and diving out if out-matched. Winston does that too (and good Winstons are terrifying in the diving in and out department), but they can do more with their team in a team-fight with the shield. Basically, that shield can turn a team-fight.
      Dva, with the buff, has gotten better at main-line tanking, but I don't think she's there yet and I don't think she'll ever be (and I don't think the game designers will let her). She synergises well with DPS heroes who are also bursty (e.g. I synergised once really well with a McCree, my shield allowed them to be more aggressive in charging around corners and their flashbang allowed me to mow down even hard to kill enemies like Roadhog) or with main line tanks (I love Reinhardts, we are the walking shield of death).
      Yes, with the new buff she can function a lot better on her own, but then Sombra can shut her down better and the new Soldier melts her quicker if she doesn't have her shield ready or he flanks her. Pharahs are also becoming more of a problem. The only team fights she out-performs Winston on are ones with big ults that she can swallow (Pharah, Reaper, Roadhog, Soldier).

  • @felixbrodeur-perry8464
    @felixbrodeur-perry8464 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I really like these kind of videos, please do more!

  • @MemMorii
    @MemMorii 7 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    When Seagull is on the other team.

    • @seal6012
      @seal6012 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Napalm 467 ?
      I don't get it plz explain

    • @GewalfofWivia
      @GewalfofWivia 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I lost a game with Seagull on my team, his Zarya was.. mediocre.

    • @bobkangaroo26
      @bobkangaroo26 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Probs better then urs tho people hav there bad days even pros

    • @MemMorii
      @MemMorii 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      John Lu Yea, Seagull is kind of shit now. Ever since the genji nerf, he hasn't been the same person.

    • @RyNiuu
      @RyNiuu 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      lol and you say that because you saw him playing for the last 3 months xd he's playing against pros. And he's only a streamer with a dreams xd

  • @user-gw1vp6hn4g
    @user-gw1vp6hn4g 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    If there is a Hanzo, Widowmaker, or Symmetra...
    1. Pick Winston
    2. Make Them Useless
    3. ???
    4. Profit!

    • @parkerhahaha
      @parkerhahaha 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or genji and tracer :)

    • @user-gw1vp6hn4g
      @user-gw1vp6hn4g 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tanin Moores Then the Hanzos I go against must be garbage

    • @kooliooliolo9995
      @kooliooliolo9995 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mattronic1016 NO AIM NO BRAIN WINSTON MAIN!!!!.is that you?

  • @thau8316
    @thau8316 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I've essentially become a rein main now because everyone plays dps

    • @Nat20Roll
      @Nat20Roll 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Justin Hazel I became a rein main because I just like him as a character :/ he's the badass German grandpa I've always wanted

    • @YorMudders
      @YorMudders 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Justin Hazel I started to main reinhardt because I tought he was a badass, wich he is but im getting sick of having to play him 24/7 in Competetive and not being able to switch and the only thing I can do is watch my team die and fail

    • @GerackSerack
      @GerackSerack 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I've essentially become a Lucio main now because everyone plays dps.

    • @dimitriuss
      @dimitriuss 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Anybody that plays this game solo and likes to win has probably never played DPS since the fuckin Beta.

  • @potato1341
    @potato1341 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One word: Zarya. She's like my backup. Counters SO many heroes and when paired with a Junkrat, tracer, Hanzo, reaper, Pharah, Genji, Bastion, Roadhog and some more heroes, can essentially win a match; provided they don't have a Zenyatta and main tank. Seriously, she is only countered by Zenyatta and maybe other tanks and 1 or 2 defense/offensive heroes. A Genji harassing you and your team? Go Zarya and show him 2 things: Blades don't cut through barriers and he can't reflect a beam attack. Roadhog hooking and cooking your team? Go Zarya and show him his MASSIVD burst damage means nothing to your shields. Mei pays homage to the company who made her and tosses a blizzard? Get a shield and walk out and help your mercy or Zenyatta do the same. McCree got his hands on a time machine and it's high noon? Get a shield and blow him off course with your particle grenades. Enemies have an Ana who's proving to be a pain? Show her that her biotic grenades don't stop healing from personal shields and that your barriers are also sleeping dart resistant.

  • @K0ly61
    @K0ly61 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Freedo, best video you've done. thank you. you rock.

  • @TallSilhouette
    @TallSilhouette 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a solo player who used to stick to one or two heroes per class, counter picking has dramatically increased my success rate and my team's win rate. Choice swaps to Winston or Reaper in particular have really swung many games.

  • @thetute59
    @thetute59 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    If only I could switch lmao :D If I would switch in a phara game to a hitscan, there would be no tank or support anymore^^

  • @TheLogicalBeast
    @TheLogicalBeast 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've turned around games before when I switched from Reaper to Lucio, and vice versa. It's about compensating for what your team lacks and acting accordingly. DPSes aren't doing their job well? Become a DPS! Not enough heals or the enemy DPS is too effective? Become a support! Ana's got a higher skill ceiling but Lucio is mad fun to play as because he can switch between speed boost and heals, whereas Ana requires surgical precision to get value out of her (which I have, but I lack the speed to back it up y'see >.< ). "Flow like a river" really *does* apply to Overwatch, and sometimes you have to be the change you wish to see in the game, not everyone has the meta mindset/watches these videos especially in Quick Play.

  • @krmalana.2790
    @krmalana.2790 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    While the first swap to Widowmaker ended up working, the swap wouldn't have been so viable on console (since he plays PC) due to the differences in how Widowmaker handles on the different systems.
    OMgosh thank you someone who recognizes that Roadhog isn't a tank. I can't tell you how many competitive rounds I've lost because of someone picking Roadhog as our tank and sometimes only tank. He isn't a tank period. He's DPS with a tank healthpool.
    Also I know Winston is viable, I just think (a) not enough people play him on console and (b) even few play him well. Most of the time when I see people pick Winston he is of no help and just gets shredded on the field. So it was also nice to see you willing switch off him when you saw it wasn't working that match.

  • @toxicgarbage274
    @toxicgarbage274 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really liked this vid-love to see an updated synergy video with the recent balance changes too

  • @damedameslaps
    @damedameslaps 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    6:33 best tracer na

  • @one-gg
    @one-gg 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would like to have a more detailed description of changing to the right heroes. Your videos are great guys.

  • @brandongreen4439
    @brandongreen4439 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    This reminds me of a few solo games in quick play, which to me is just unranked solo queue now. DPS, DPS everywhere. (Bare in mind, my experience comes from free weekends so take it with a grain of salt.) And not a healer to be seen. What I ended up doing was going Mercy, and that act alone swung the game in our favor, moreso than if i were a Winston or Reinhardt. I had the idea of "If they're all alive, they can win." And i kept winning on mercy game after game because when we had a healer and they had none, they just lost. I believe given the choice, I would keep a bad team up longer, than a competent team up shorter. The longer a team has to stay up and shoot, the more chance they have of winning even an unfavorable matchup. Even on decent teams the enemy had, i didn't see healers a whole lot. So please, if you see the team needs one, and nobody else is listening to reason(don't just be a jerk and force someone else to be healer please), take responsibility and switch to a healer. Even small over time heals like on Lucio help a lot because that's damage you're taking off of the team and putting into ult charge.

  • @mcsapp
    @mcsapp 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    More Pick/Counterpick things please. this is great.

  • @cale4394
    @cale4394 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for making this video, i've seen so much people staying as for exemple winston when they have a reaper

  • @06cmoney
    @06cmoney 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool video man. Hopefully getting this game around Christmas, can't wait to try it out!

  • @dramatheurgist
    @dramatheurgist 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    You do so many of these 'introductory' videos. I think many of us would like you to go more in-depth on the topics. In this case, listing at least a handful of different examples (more than just two) for what counters what on what map/situation would be much more interesting than just a brief intro.

  • @dawsonparser5654
    @dawsonparser5654 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I enjoy these strategy videos. so far it's helped me, and has also allowed me to teach my friends what to do in good times and bad. I definently would like more strategy videos

  • @callahanjohnson
    @callahanjohnson 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid! Personally, I would love to see more videos regarding particular counters and synergies.

  • @TaylorV61
    @TaylorV61 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd really like to see a video where you define all the characters and what their actual roles are, not just what you see on the selection screen. I'm having trouble keeping up haha!

  • @lolomat212
    @lolomat212 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really appreciate these team comp based guides. I am rather cometend with my core heroes, and not pro enough to actually make use out of most hero based guides. But it does help me a lot to better understand my role on the team. (i still have to assemble a whole team to really use any stratagys tho^^)
    My point is: loved the video ^^

  • @rkochamp07
    @rkochamp07 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    In quick play i play anyone im in the mood for, in comp however i always main Rein or Lucio if rein is taken. Im confident in my rein abilities (i never charge through a choke point unless theres some sort of strat behind, i hate when i see other players do that cause most of the time they get gunned down and leave our team wide open)

  • @travelinganvil5711
    @travelinganvil5711 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just found your guys channel. Excellent info thanks a lot for what you do!

  • @henrybaker9322
    @henrybaker9322 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I play rein at high bronze, and I have been having a much better time in comp than last season, where I played d.va mostly. Now we always have a main tank.

  • @pvrhye
    @pvrhye 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the reason so few players really tank is because the lack of good healers in Solo queue means that strategy seems to fail. Essentially you learn not to tank, counterproductively.

  • @edwardfarrell6340
    @edwardfarrell6340 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    it's cool idea to make "how to counter-pick" type video but i don't like to see it daily since it would kill interesting content that you guys doing. As long as it is from time to time i'm fine with that :D

  • @Jurbo33
    @Jurbo33 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've followed you guys for a while now, subbed about a month after release. great video, some very useful tidbits in there.
    I have a question though; if I'm in solo que, and my whole team picks dps, should I heal, or tank? my gut says heal, but I run into this situation kind of a lot, and it doesn't always pan out when I run Lucio if they spread out, and likewise if I run Ana, if they're all skirmishing, it gets hard to keep LOS.
    HAAAAAALP

  • @Anoctopusinlove
    @Anoctopusinlove 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Make more of these!!!

  • @lipidi1542
    @lipidi1542 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    hey, i would want to play Winston but i die everytime i jump on the Enemy

    • @henrik3252
      @henrik3252 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      happy doggo lol you dont just jump into them alone

    • @McC1oudv2
      @McC1oudv2 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aye, Winston is pro initiation for an all encompassing fight. Go with the team, become the main priority distraction and start laying down cleave damage. It is then your teams responsibility to back you up, but make sure they are ready.

    • @duckyh9712
      @duckyh9712 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      make sure you survey all enemy locations before you jump in attack the backline squishys like zenyata and lucio try to avoid tanks and only use your shield when you jumping in . you can avoid a reaper but a reapee roadhog combination is really bad

    • @sEaNoYeAh
      @sEaNoYeAh 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      One quick tip is as much as possible don't jump at the other team, and instead drop on them. i.e leap to high ground in a relatively safe position, drop onto the other team with leap and shield ready, then leap away before you've taken too much damage and put yourself in a precarious situation. A pick part of Winston play is knowing his limits, recognising danger, and having the forethought to be able to get out.
      Also, at least to begin with avoid playing Winston when it's a bad match against the other team (when they have 3 or 4 tanks, or both Reaper and Roadhog), and/or when your own team doesn't have someone to support your attack on a backline, like a decent Genji, or even a Reaper, Pharah or D.Va.
      And if you've got a friend who can support from distance via Zarya bubbles, Zenyatta harmony orbs or Ana snipe healing, you'll have a lot more time to go to work.

  • @CarlstenProductions
    @CarlstenProductions 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the way you analyze!

  • @dcihutch620
    @dcihutch620 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sorry to be that guy but you used permutation wrong. A permutation is a combination where order is important and in regards to team comps order is not important therefore it's just a combination.

  • @bostonjanisheck4048
    @bostonjanisheck4048 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey guys, can you make a video, or a very indepth comment about when to switch off pharah? I am a pharah main (top 500 pharah with golden gun for her) and even I am not sure when it is hurting my team to stay on her after a hitscan comes in to counter me. Especially after insane soldier buff. The reason I feel this is video worthy is that I am still effective to 4/6 or 5/6 the team, and I try and get a teammate to go Winston to counter my squishy hitscan enemies, but even then they usually have a reaper to counter the Winston. If our zarya can pull in more that 3 people including the hitscan, then I can steamroll those kills and wipe them all, but I don't know if 1 wipe is good enough to stay pharah if I am useless the rest of the match. Thank you for your time, I love your channel! I also ask this channel because I know weagal plays pharah and has her golden gun.

  • @CoryJohnsonfootsteps
    @CoryJohnsonfootsteps 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    LOVE this kind of video. keep it up.

  • @kaiden247
    @kaiden247 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    very informative video great job guys

  • @FirebladeXXL
    @FirebladeXXL 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    another topic that sadly is not trivial for a whole bunch of the community. ty.

  • @ApexAssassin
    @ApexAssassin 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the info love your vids

  • @AseAPS
    @AseAPS 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ya more like this please i want other ppl to get this

  • @ironcane1097
    @ironcane1097 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    more vids like these please

  • @potato1341
    @potato1341 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I play Zenyatta. What more do you want from me? I throw discords on enemies. I heal you. I make sure that Pharah and Zarya don't get a massive wombo combo on us. I help us push the payload when we're locked down. I keep the point contested long enough for you to show up and save me and the objective, even if it cost me my ultimate. What else do I need to do?! D:

  • @Thundermikeee
    @Thundermikeee 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    my main problem with rhein is that i do likr to play him, not every game but some, but almost every time i do, everybody kinda ignores me and my positioning and goes off on their own. and even though i am the main tank, i dont like to overextend and go into bad positions just so i can shiel the soldier who is gonna run and leave me when things go belly up... thats why i prefer winston or dva, because even uf you are up against a reaper or hog, you can deal with them or at least not die instantly, plus you are mobile enough to chase after your team trying to kill themselves. i dont mean that in a ragy way, i just learned as a support player in LoL that you should always assume that you adc is trying to get killed, which actually improved my gameplay there.

  • @axelbravo9125
    @axelbravo9125 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think yu guys should make another video on when we should switch... or save the switch until you can use your ult. For example, obviously if yu have no ult charge and need to switch, yu should switch, but if I'm at 70 charge but I'm playing genji and a Winston starts to jump me, should I switch or wait until my ult is ready. This is just one example and I know this topic can be very situational, but I would love a video on this :)

    • @xFREEEDO
      @xFREEEDO 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Most DPS ults aren't going to be significant enough to hold onto tbh, Sombra EMP yes, all the rest, no. The best ults are support ults, grav, earthshatter, those are rough to give up because they win an entire teamfight.

    • @axelbravo9125
      @axelbravo9125 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      FREEDO aye freedo replied that's cool :D. Thanks for the tips!

  • @CaseLogsTrades
    @CaseLogsTrades 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    first! just started playing overwatch and you guys are my source of learning

    • @chiperino
      @chiperino 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      IntescyAvenger someone beat you by a second

    • @CaseLogsTrades
      @CaseLogsTrades 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      chip actually I was first and commented "first"but then edited

    • @chiperino
      @chiperino 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      IntescyAvenger meh don't really care

  • @JUDE-fn3ee
    @JUDE-fn3ee 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video and channel

  • @MrMedal01
    @MrMedal01 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How and when to Counter Pick
    OOOH, I'm gonna learn something from this!
    "Hey, look, if you swap from Winston to Widowmaker, you'll be able to kill Reaper!"
    "Oh, did you know running a match without main tanks is bad?"
    End of the video.
    *...*

  • @uzef73
    @uzef73 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I play lots of Hanzo, but he should honestly only be picked if there's no other good ult to combine with Zarya, which there usually is

    • @TacoYoMaMa
      @TacoYoMaMa 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      uzef73 lol no in my opinion in playing hanzo for the whole last week and this week and from seeing other people use him hanzo is only good if you can actually land shots because when you start landing shots it goes from a 6v6 to a 6v2 since you can just obliterate all squshis in one shot

    • @rbc13183
      @rbc13183 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The golden rule is: You only pick Hanzo in comp if you are really good with him. He's good for way more than just his ult. If you are one of the rare players that's actually gotten really good with him, you can pretty much compete with any other DPS.

    • @TacoYoMaMa
      @TacoYoMaMa 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cloaked One true

  • @VoidVee
    @VoidVee 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Overall, I'm a junkrat-zen but I switch to lucío or rein when I need to

  • @himcdvnremvr
    @himcdvnremvr 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pretty useful video

  • @lieutenantbean9853
    @lieutenantbean9853 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    At 2:45 I think that reaper was targeting you because he was butthurt that you killed him

  • @user-ru1uh7gj9p
    @user-ru1uh7gj9p 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    best OW chahnel, bro

  • @Gerry9000000
    @Gerry9000000 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I thought this was established knowledge... playing a hero competently to counter or synergise or just plain create a good setup has always been better than sticking it out on a hero you're great at who makes no sense in the comp.

    • @nickdasher8084
      @nickdasher8084 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Gerry Brazell it sort of is but a lot of people refuse to do this. Tons of people only play one hero all the time regardless of map, team comp, or opponent. Lots of others just pick whatever hero they feel like playing that day and refuse to switch no matter what.

    • @lt3880
      @lt3880 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Loads of people are still stuck in the "you need to main a hero" fallacy and think that's how you get good at overwatch. That barely works even at the highest pro levels of game where in a full 6 team you can afford to specialize, but it's even worse in solo q. There's also the problem of global ult rate nerf that makes swapping more punishing, but it just means you need to swap as soon as you see a problem, not waste time more time with a bad comp just to use ults.

    • @Underworlder5
      @Underworlder5 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      that is not a fallacy. how many times do i have to say this? a main is not the only hero you ever play, is it the one you are the most familiar with and prefer playing when the option is present. IMO it is impossible not to have a main unless you somehow have the exact number of hours on every single hero. i would rather be great at a few heroes than average-at-best on all of them

    • @lt3880
      @lt3880 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      very mad guy I'm obviously talking about people who only play one or two heroes in competitive and refuse to swap to fit the team comp, map or enemy comp. Ranked is littered with these people. People who don't want to practice other heroes because it might tank their SR in the short term but actually benefits you in the long term.

    • @Gerry9000000
      @Gerry9000000 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      By that looser definition of 'main', I have mained several heroes so far (Dva, Lucio, Reinhardt, Bastion, Winston), as I go through natural phases of wanting to improve different heroes. Currently I've settled on Reinhardt, and I think its so important for Reinhardt mains to have a good Winston, and know when either is preferable. Sometimes even D.va is preferable.
      The issue of never switching isnt just among the stereotypical dps (namely genji/hanzo mains), I've seen Dva's and Winstons refuse to switch when they are getting hard countered and not providing any counter-value themselves, and limited synergistic options.
      My philosophy is to have one or two specialist heroes, and then to become at least competent at their alternatives. I can basically play any tank plus Mei (except Zarya), but favour the lead tanks. I can play any healer, but my Ana could be better. This wide pool lets me counter pick and straight up win games. Whenever I lose, its often the case that I know I should have changed earlier, or someone on our team should have changed.
      Overwatch is more about team composition than any other aspect. Sometimes the shooter aspect barely matters. Thats how influential counters are.

  • @EmeraldPigmans
    @EmeraldPigmans 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe a vid of counters to every overwatch hero?

    • @potato1341
      @potato1341 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Everyone>Zenyatta
      Zarya>Everyone
      Zenyatta>Zarya

  • @kyleanesko
    @kyleanesko 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    love this video

  • @YourOverwatch
    @YourOverwatch  7 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Picking effectively in Overwatch can be a crucial component of victory. Typically, if you read the game carefully you can find a core component that either pulls your team together or counters an enemy setup directly. This video shows a few examples of how to apply these ideas. Let us know what you think and be sure to drop a Like & Subscribe if you enjoyed!

    • @zyoungblood
      @zyoungblood 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Your Overwatch first

    • @duhrover4837
      @duhrover4837 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      second ^)

    • @TheBioshocksnake
      @TheBioshocksnake 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      It just doesnt feel like its worth swapping heroes. You go with your 3 Tanks, 2 Support, 1 DPS and you include Ana and Soldier in that team, youre gonna shoot out Pharah with that, youre gonna be good in almost every situation.
      There is no counter to a team having 2 or 3 Tanks, that would make them consider switching out that second Tank to another DPS. I absolutely hope Blizzard makes DPS more important as soon as possible.

    • @JoseHernandez-em3rp
      @JoseHernandez-em3rp 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your Overwatch love you guys as s source for learning ♡

    • @Deminz
      @Deminz 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      could yall make a more in depth series on how to counter pick? I feel like there are many situations where people just don't know how to. IE vs a good zarya rein or ana player.

  • @Henbot
    @Henbot 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    😂😂😂😂 That tracer getting blown up by her own pulse bomb was great. Can you give me tips on what character to get gold skin with ✌️😁 got enough cp points , don't play too much, but was pleased but unsure who to get it for 😞 original was going to go with sombra, uzi seems to need to be gold , but she hasn't turned out as well I was hoping she be- Mcree riverboat skin looks amazing gold and then Winnie I am thinking of getting gold 🤓

  • @shavedata5436
    @shavedata5436 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    when to swap: anytime you are playing hanzo

  • @milleradam8250
    @milleradam8250 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    For your next synergy guide can you do genji and Winston

    • @MackinCheezy
      @MackinCheezy 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ryan Seinath agreed, that's a great combo

    • @Olorrangerr
      @Olorrangerr 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ryan Seinath me and my friend are unstoppable. im a winston main

    • @DraBlake
      @DraBlake 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ryan Seinath genji + winston ftw

  • @AegixDrakan
    @AegixDrakan 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Zarya-Roadhog isn't a good tank combo? :o Huh. I did not know that.

  • @DingoWing0
    @DingoWing0 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    pharmacy - pha-mercy...ooohhh that's smart

  • @oogaboogas001
    @oogaboogas001 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    really good vid :)

  • @benwilliamson2176
    @benwilliamson2176 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey freedo could you name me a list of characters which I should each main for a couple weeks just to get a better understanding of the game and in turn improve my skill as a character

  • @seancotlier9507
    @seancotlier9507 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Anyone that doesn't watch this channel AND plays competitive needs to get good

    • @lieutenantbean9853
      @lieutenantbean9853 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Git gud

    • @klutz3955
      @klutz3955 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the fuq you talking about
      I dont take these peoples words and yet im a master rank on season 2

  • @bencargill4479
    @bencargill4479 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    What sensitivity would you recommend high or low (vertical and horizontal)

  • @Sorin-ue7sx
    @Sorin-ue7sx 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    that moment when he says the four core heroes and thos are pretty much the only heroes you play

  • @marcusmyrgren5322
    @marcusmyrgren5322 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Feels
    Is
    Reckless
    So
    Thank it

  • @alv1561
    @alv1561 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    *wants to have fun and play Hanzo* then I realize he needs a clean-up dps like Sombra or Genji to help get kills and needs Mei/Zary/Rhein just to be kill more than 1 enemy with his Ult

  • @AseAPS
    @AseAPS 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    NO JOKE im getting great at this

  • @jacobwickersham1999
    @jacobwickersham1999 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you do a video on who counters who

  • @SoulSeeking
    @SoulSeeking 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Freedo sounds a little bit like KaiserNeko.

  • @jacobm8242
    @jacobm8242 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why do you always have Hanzo in the thumbnail but never discuss him?

    • @spicymeatball9651
      @spicymeatball9651 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Jacob Mikeska cause he's Asian

    • @TacoYoMaMa
      @TacoYoMaMa 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Jacob Mikeska lol because its all ways hanzo or genji players who don't switching

    • @lt3880
      @lt3880 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It's just an overwatch meme that hanzos never switch. They're always a "hanzo main" but still complain about team comp.

    • @jacobm8242
      @jacobm8242 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Taco I'm a Hanzo "Main" But I switch constantly to better synergize with whatever comp my team is running xD
      I was 3400sr when the season ended

    • @TacoYoMaMa
      @TacoYoMaMa 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jacob Mikeska lol than your not one of the people who main a character and don't understand there character is not working your a good player 👍

  • @MiguelSanchez-pp5qw
    @MiguelSanchez-pp5qw 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bastion guide?

    • @Sammysapphira
      @Sammysapphira 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Miguel Sanchez left click

    • @MiguelSanchez-pp5qw
      @MiguelSanchez-pp5qw 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      benblue3 bastion requires more than just clicking...he requires skill

    • @Sammysapphira
      @Sammysapphira 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Miguel Sanchez lmao

    • @balalaikabestgirl925
      @balalaikabestgirl925 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      1)Find a Reinhardt
      2)Find a Wall
      3) hold left click.

  • @Sergiopoo
    @Sergiopoo 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    if you have ult charged up is it better to use it and then switch or if the team comp is at a disadvantage is better to not bother with the ult and just switch out?

    • @trashboi3428
      @trashboi3428 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sergio Perea If you're Reinhardt, Zarya, or a support, pop ult first. Otherwise, switch off right away.

  • @lieutenantbean9853
    @lieutenantbean9853 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have never had to switch off reaper or mccree

  • @FeralChaos001
    @FeralChaos001 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    According to Thumbnail, Hanzo counters everyone. Save y'all some time, now go play Hanzo right now

    • @potato1341
      @potato1341 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      D. DeJesus Really, only hard counter to every character is Zarya. D.Va quite well counters Hanzo. But Zarya, she just manages to kill everyone. Only possible issue for her would be Roadhog or Reindhart but under the right circumstances, she'll counter everyone. Seriously. Ever play against a good Zarya? A mercy and Zarya combo, as well as a good DPS or hero with a powerful AoE, high damage ult like D.Va's self destruct can wipe an enemy team, even without her ult or an assist character.

    • @MadManwithaSpoon
      @MadManwithaSpoon 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought the hard counter to everyone was Mercy.

  • @wizardsngames7933
    @wizardsngames7933 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you record your streams and post them on the TH-cam channel, or even just stream highlights please?

  • @ivankong9347
    @ivankong9347 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    What should I do if my team is lacking both a main tank and a healer, should I swap off from my Lucio to Ana or something?

    • @trashboi3428
      @trashboi3428 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ivan Kong Definitely switch from Lucio to either Ana or Zen. If you don't have a main tank or healer, chances are the team's not using your speed boost anyway. Zen is a good dps carry in addition to having heals, so I recommend carrying with him if the team is just bad, or run Ana if the team us good. After all, just one nano boosted dps hero can kill a team.

  • @slizsliz2168
    @slizsliz2168 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    in na you don't have alot of support and tank mains 🤔🤔
    what happens to me in Eu I don't get any dps mains on either team

  • @s1universe131
    @s1universe131 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    So I play Winston and Ana pretty competentl and I solo qeue a lot. I'll see the little no tank and no healer icons on the side of the screen because everyone wants to play DPS. In this situation, who would be the better pick?

    • @trashboi3428
      @trashboi3428 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      s1universe Depends on the context, but if you have 5 dps as a general rule of thumb you're better off with a healer. Winston especially relies on a lot of healing from teammates, so you're probably better off playing Ana. Plus, chances are that at least ONE of the dps players is decent, so nano boost will give a good payoff.

  • @FalloutNight0
    @FalloutNight0 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    What will it take for Sombra to become a viable pick? I really enjoy playing as her yet I get the feeling I could be contributing more to the team. Thoughts anyone?

    • @char1194
      @char1194 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Give her a rocket launcher

    • @Jman0163
      @Jman0163 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fallout Night hack the game to win

    • @myriadee3158
      @myriadee3158 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fallout Night Get a good Widow, recognize she is a niche pick used for attack A a lot of times. Don't just lock her without looking at your team.

  • @vawus
    @vawus 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    It also helps if your teammates aren't retarded and don't just run in without listening. Also understanding situations at my rank is harder even if I know what to do.

  • @dcihutch620
    @dcihutch620 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video tho

  • @MarcesIsCool
    @MarcesIsCool 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the outro song called?

  • @DraBlake
    @DraBlake 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is a nice video.
    wp dudes

  • @jay3852
    @jay3852 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm a Reinhardt main

  • @T3RD5ify
    @T3RD5ify 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I try to play rein because nobody chooses main healers or tanks and my team doesn't even use my rein shield and soldier absolutely shreds my shield. What is there to do? When a team of full dps counters a well balanced team?

    • @trashboi3428
      @trashboi3428 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dominik Tursich Roll with Winston, Zarya, or maybe a healer. Rein is great, but if nobody's cooperating you're better off sacrificing team comp to carry instead. Zarya's especially a good pick because she can help carry dps while also saving anyone who gets into a bad spot. She also doesn't need a healer as badly as the other tanks due to half her health being shields.