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CMS Camaro Z/28, Stage 2 vs Stage 4

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 ส.ค. 2017
  • CMS Stage 2 vs CMS Stage 4 Z/28 Camaro's!!
    Stage 2 Z/28 mods:
    -WCCH Stage 2 Heads
    -CMS Stage 2 Cam Kit (Cam Motion Core)
    -American Racing Headers (Long Tubes)
    Stage 4 Z/28 mods:
    -WCCH Stage 2 Heads
    -CMS Stage 4 Cam Kit (Cam Motion Core)
    -Kooks Headers (Short Connection)
    -MSD Intake Manifold
    -Nick Williams 102 Throttle Body
    Which sound do you prefer?

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  • @InFiD3ViL1
    @InFiD3ViL1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    I'll take both thank you

  • @ronnysterling7694
    @ronnysterling7694 6 ปีที่แล้ว +123

    Stage 2 for me, sounds like a great neighbor pisser offer!

    • @wootuser
      @wootuser 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It is, my neighbors say they hear me leaving every morning when I cold start mine and the NPP valve is wide open.
      It makes up for the late evening ATVs they us at 11PM at night.

    • @jamessiege2727
      @jamessiege2727 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      My stage 2 wakes up half the town when i open the no weeds cutouts

    • @AndrewCastorena-pg2ek
      @AndrewCastorena-pg2ek 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      So 2 is louder than 4 I thought stage 4 was loudest

  • @wootuser
    @wootuser 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Friends got a stage 4 on a ZL1 Gen 5 with around 800 HP (he's a tuner by trade) .
    I prefer the stage 2 for a daily driver and some street cred, the stuff you can put into these is crazy, be careful what you wish for.
    Friends car has LT headers on a 3 inch exhaust with Borla mufflers.
    It is used mostly in drag racing and not a daily driver. When he does drive it around town to screw around in it the noise is insane.
    Going through a drive through he has to turn it off to talk and you have to shout a little to talk in the car and simply leaving a parking lot, it may burn out by accident with OEM tires.
    He mostly uses drag tires but the stock street tires can't really handle the power.

  • @jennerb7059
    @jennerb7059 5 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    This is helping me decide which cam I want, thanks! I still think that I'm going to go all out and get a stage 4.

    • @m.m.6757
      @m.m.6757 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Did you get it?

    • @jennerb7059
      @jennerb7059 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@m.m.6757 you know I still want to get it. You know. Cars is an expensive hobby. I will get the stage 3 eventually.

    • @MikeyFNBR
      @MikeyFNBR 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jennerb7059 did u get it know ?

    • @jennerb7059
      @jennerb7059 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MikeyFNBR still working towards it.

    • @isatntt
      @isatntt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@jennerb7059 bro "still working towards it" its been 2 years and you havent gotten 400 bucks to spare?

  • @SilveradoNation1
    @SilveradoNation1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I need a Z/28 in my life

    • @kjam87gxp
      @kjam87gxp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Me too man me too

  • @elmagico8483
    @elmagico8483 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Stage 4 0:45 stage 2 1:50

  • @cedricbeauchamp4308
    @cedricbeauchamp4308 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My car is 2017 Camaro SS is getting it's Texas Speed cam and kooks long tube headers as I type. I can't wait. Both those cars sound and look amazing!!

  • @blackpanther1269
    @blackpanther1269 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Both cars are badass

  • @rajeshmoses6763
    @rajeshmoses6763 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    These cars sounds, so sweet!!!

  • @jsb1561
    @jsb1561 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They both sound bad ass, I'm having a BTR 225 stage 2 cam, headers, and MSD intake installed as i speak.

  • @gene7314
    @gene7314 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Have the stage 2 car in this video... bought it from owner. Car is a beast. Have no issues passing smog/inspection in new york. Car has plenty of room to make more power. Completely streetable... these cars are not really streetable even in stock form lol.

    • @rollemproper3087
      @rollemproper3087 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Does it have any other exhaust modifications? Also in NY and have kept mine stock because I wasn’t sure what I can even get away with

  • @thatguy3139
    @thatguy3139 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Both sounded soooooo goood

  • @FaceBookMee
    @FaceBookMee 7 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I prefer the stage 4 love that chop music to my ears

    • @vincebermudez869
      @vincebermudez869 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Heck yeah!!

    • @michaelharris-2001
      @michaelharris-2001 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      What makes a engine sound like that?

    • @trader-matt
      @trader-matt 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@michaelharris-2001 cams

    • @FTSTroy
      @FTSTroy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Archangel Michael camshaft turning

  • @rogelioquintana1631
    @rogelioquintana1631 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Stage 2 sounds better👍🏼

  • @m.m.6757
    @m.m.6757 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “Next time pull your pants up , FRAT BOY. “. Lol.

  • @madballz28
    @madballz28 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Stage 2 sounds sweet

  • @CocaLaRock12197
    @CocaLaRock12197 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Stage 4 all day, that mean and super deep rumble from the kooks header

  • @thinbluelinemustang372
    @thinbluelinemustang372 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Both are incredible!!!

  • @brads3111
    @brads3111 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks!! They both sound great!

  • @IntelligentHorseworldofrandom
    @IntelligentHorseworldofrandom 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    If I were to pick, I'd take the stage 2. It's far more tolerable, I think I'd catch a migraine with the stage 4 lol.

    • @dover1966
      @dover1966 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Your a pussy

    • @IntelligentHorseworldofrandom
      @IntelligentHorseworldofrandom 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dover1966 ​ Thanks for the input you dumb twat, I didn't ask you tho. Have a good one.

    • @floored3078
      @floored3078 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Stage 4 because i'm a dick lol

    • @IntelligentHorseworldofrandom
      @IntelligentHorseworldofrandom 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@floored3078 lmao ofc, gotta give the neighbors that good mornin call

    • @floored3078
      @floored3078 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@IntelligentHorseworldofrandom haha
      Every morning
      "Who wants to hear my engine Explode Violently!!!???"

  • @thomasdaddio741
    @thomasdaddio741 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I hope the seat on stage 4 still adjusts , looks too close to the wheel. Is the car back halfed or was the sheet metal just to cover parts of the stock chassis?

    • @wootuser
      @wootuser 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Stage 4 car has Cobra Evolution-Proforce Kevlar racing seats AKA Halo racing seats which are fixed and mounted on a bracket and usually used with a 4/5/6 point harness.
      Comfort isn't what these seats are made for. th-cam.com/video/ugWuTk-A5Fw/w-d-xo.html once you get in and strap in you are not moving.
      The roll cage makes the rear seats useless and may as well take out the rear seat for weight reduction, they could probably strip the dash out also but probably want to make it look somewhat nice. The back is probably just sheet metal and I am thinking they have a ice tank, fuel cells back there. www.chevyhardcore.com/tech-stories/fuel-cooling-ignition-tech/project-true-sstreet-rhodes-race-cars-outfits-our-fifth-gen-camaro/
      That stage 4 car setup is no joke, it is for racing.

  • @mk-jm5tv
    @mk-jm5tv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I just bought a stage 4 for my 5.3. did you get an aftermarket ECU or did you use the stock one?

  • @tenzinyougyal8659
    @tenzinyougyal8659 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    They sound both alike no different and nice black on black no hate clean love em brutha

  • @Gooddog1
    @Gooddog1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    You're missing a whole lot of info here.

  • @clammaster4
    @clammaster4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    stage 4 also known as a gunfight

  • @alanss03
    @alanss03 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Los dos super sonido 😍

  • @drewinhou
    @drewinhou 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Both sound great. I'm going with somewhere in the middle on my SS. A stage 3 should be right where I am needing to be.

    • @ZL1Dnero
      @ZL1Dnero 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      A stage 3 on your SS might be around a stage 1 maybe even 2 on these Z28's being they make about 80 more crank hp factory

  • @PawlDunken
    @PawlDunken 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Stage 2 sound good too!

  • @gherasimtibi
    @gherasimtibi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    stage 2 all day

  • @stay.alive.00
    @stay.alive.00 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    both sound great. but hows the drivability? are these cams appropriate for daily driving? hmm

  • @OnlinecarshowNet1
    @OnlinecarshowNet1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I said ... god daaaammn. Sounds straight up nasty. I like

  • @kanervatie
    @kanervatie ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you need to have new heads for stage2 or is just headers ok? I know nothing, but damn do I like the cam lope on these.

  • @JJ4POPE
    @JJ4POPE 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    How much for the stage 2 out the door? Assuming about 550whp?
    Thanks>

    • @oscarsalazar6796
      @oscarsalazar6796 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      JJ4POPE they make 505 stock Im pretty sure it's more like 650 +

    • @JJ4POPE
      @JJ4POPE 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Oscar Salazar thanks for the reply..yes, 650hp is roughly 550whp.. (wheel horse power)

  • @STRX2BARR
    @STRX2BARR ปีที่แล้ว

    Stage 4 ftw putting the stage 4 PDS cam from Brian tooley in my zl1 over the winter here

  • @JorgeRodriguez-gc1or
    @JorgeRodriguez-gc1or 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    👌 nice , would you happen to have tge specs of the stage 2?

  • @SuperGorilla68
    @SuperGorilla68 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Stage 3 Brian Tooley racing. Do it.

  • @eltonjcasarez2744
    @eltonjcasarez2744 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    😎🇺🇸

  • @C-DOT
    @C-DOT 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice! Any leads who can install a CAM in my 2000 Camaro SS . I’m in California as well

  • @lilice3491
    @lilice3491 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please include more info, I have a z28 and am super interested in the stage 2.

  • @fernandojuarez6853
    @fernandojuarez6853 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “Sounds aight”

    • @kriptic22
      @kriptic22 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      A ton of info missing as stated above. Whats the lsa, hows valve train noise, what are the freaking specs?

  • @raysason4838
    @raysason4838 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It woulda been better to do this test with long tubes an factory exhaust on both

  • @brydiaz3956
    @brydiaz3956 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    is the stage 2 stock exhaust? or were any cats or mufflers removed? or was it replaced with an actual full aftermarket exhaust?

  • @mrmidnight32
    @mrmidnight32 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wtf.. Why does the stage 2 sound choppier?
    Does the higher stage just mean power output?

  • @robp.1995
    @robp.1995 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Stage 2 sounds better

  • @kalikujo9618
    @kalikujo9618 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just baught the Green Flash.
    Says 300 mph on the dash. .

  • @basic_vette
    @basic_vette 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Stage 2 sounds better.

  • @ChiefManny1
    @ChiefManny1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    TWO!

  • @DGCExotics
    @DGCExotics 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Does stage 4 makes the car faster then the other stages?

    • @gyxdan
      @gyxdan ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes

  • @rogersmith3152
    @rogersmith3152 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I just put a stage 4 cam in my 84 square body lol

    • @mrmidnight32
      @mrmidnight32 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      roger smith what part number? I’m looking at the 8712 or the 8714 I can’t make up my mind.

  • @chrislimnios9180
    @chrislimnios9180 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ca car? How in God's green earth do you pass emissions? I own a 2017 1le, looking at no other choices other than smog legal FI in order to get some really decent power. Will these vehicles pass smog as is or is there some type of exception granted?

    • @Spoder_Man
      @Spoder_Man 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Honestly any car can pass emissions if you know the right people and are willing to pay.

    • @brandobee2264
      @brandobee2264 ปีที่แล้ว

      🔥 smog

  • @brandonspencer84
    @brandonspencer84 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Stage 2

  • @cannibalgutted7254
    @cannibalgutted7254 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Is it me or stage 2 sounds better ....????

    • @basic_vette
      @basic_vette 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, I think it sounds better also.

    • @duffelbaggangmiccyhaze6724
      @duffelbaggangmiccyhaze6724 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Its just the stage 4 is for racing so its got a more aggressive sound then stage 2.

  • @LxLG
    @LxLG 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For the stage 2, is it arh 2” or 1 7/8

  • @Tb-yr2lr
    @Tb-yr2lr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cam specs for the stage 2?

  • @OLDMAN5.0
    @OLDMAN5.0 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    SAWEET !!

  • @specagent6918
    @specagent6918 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What’s a stage?

  • @driversl
    @driversl 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are these still on the road/track?

  • @J2A61
    @J2A61 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I went stage 3 tsp gen v L83 yet to see the outcome

  • @HHHAAA111222
    @HHHAAA111222 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m in CA too. Can the the stage 2 be smogged here?

    • @jamessiege2727
      @jamessiege2727 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah if you pay your smog guy lol. Thats what i do.

  • @johnmarchesi2365
    @johnmarchesi2365 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    What mufflers are you running?

  • @deathbymonkies2305
    @deathbymonkies2305 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What spoiler is on that stage 2 cammed camaro

    • @paxtonbradford6162
      @paxtonbradford6162 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      DeathBYmonkies it’s called a wicker bill but what kind i have no clue, you can get them from places like zl1addons. I got mine for my challenger there. Hope that helps

  • @isidrosevier1125
    @isidrosevier1125 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are these stock mufflers

  • @jesusortega1918
    @jesusortega1918 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do you pass smog👀

  • @brianhansen6189
    @brianhansen6189 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How do those pass emissions in CA?

    • @brianoconnor8479
      @brianoconnor8479 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      They don't haha. But you gotta have your people ;p

    • @juanzavalalol
      @juanzavalalol 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      you fake it

  • @randomguy-yv2ec
    @randomguy-yv2ec 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's the exhaust set up

  • @jerryking6273
    @jerryking6273 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love camaro with everything I have but I'd rather have a hellcat

  • @mgerren88
    @mgerren88 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    what's the power difference between the 2???

    • @kriptic22
      @kriptic22 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      " the power" isnt going to be a great difference tbh. Stage 4 will be getting the power at higher rpms then stage 2.

    • @nickadkins7765
      @nickadkins7765 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kriptic22 their stage 4 kit also comes with an intake manifold and larger throttle body. Its not just a more aggressive cam. I'd say you'd probably get another 50whp/40whtq give or take with the stage 4 package!

    • @kriptic22
      @kriptic22 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nickadkins7765 - unless the car is fi, your not going see anywhere close to 40-50 rwhp gain.

    • @nickadkins7765
      @nickadkins7765 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kriptic22 ehh agree to disagree

    • @jasonreyna7615
      @jasonreyna7615 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The power difference is maybe 2-5 hp up top...it's where the power is made that's the difference. A stage 2 makes peak maybe at 6500 where as a stage 4 for any cam and any company revs all the way to 7000, our small blocks don't need to rev that far out, also your torque is better in a stage 2 vs a 3 or 4. Bigger is not always better.

  • @realnikonlover6207
    @realnikonlover6207 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good luck in California! Soon the CHP will be able to impound modified cars on pullovers. Diesel vehicles soon to be outlawed too included big rigs. Go green!

    • @alaverga173
      @alaverga173 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah and its almost impossible to get a crooked smog now too

  • @nicalibre3354
    @nicalibre3354 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    California laws sucks 😢

    • @trentongulley6641
      @trentongulley6641 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I live in California, and my camaro has a stage 4 cam🤷‍♂️

    • @chrislimnios9180
      @chrislimnios9180 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@trentongulley6641 I've got 171le in CA I want to sup up but I do not like the idea of FI. I need to hang out in the same circles as you!

  • @AnnatarTheMaia
    @AnnatarTheMaia 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Stage 4" bare interior and then you put sheet metal in to make it heavier again... and what the hell is that shift light for, when the head up display has a Formula 1-like shift indicator? What nonsense... whoever owns these wonderful cars does not deserve them, they need to go to true car enthusiasts which will take care of them and not bastardize them like this...

    • @Erik-wq8rn
      @Erik-wq8rn 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think the stage numbers only refer to the cams not the actual car as a whole

  • @joeyjackson3896
    @joeyjackson3896 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Stage 2 sounds better