Bayonet Repair and Restoration
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- DO THE MAINTENENCE....Bayonets' never seem to get the love they deserve....Just Sayin. NOT a tutorial...we show what you need to learn, not how to do . Cannot perform at this level? Do NOT attempt. Support us: / anvil
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As for the drill motor "lathe", the undiscussed topic is the safety angle. Much less available torque and WAY smaller rotating parts to get hurt by.....This aspect makes the technique my go to on the bench.
I would just ignore them. Anyone who says anything about it has too much time on their hands.
Yeah, your big lathe has a what, 10hp motor? One of those will utterly end you.
Good Technique Could It Also Be Done in a Drill Press 😀😊
@@chrischiampo7647 yep, ive done it several times
used a drill press to make a take down pin for a 1906 remington rider #9. found a round rod that was close and used drill press and file to size it then put the detent groove in it, drilled the center notched the end drilled a hole for the roll pin, hand cut and filed the lift tab for it then used a ball point pen spring and a bb for a detent to keep the tab tight against the side of the receiver. Used cherry red to surface harden it. Worked very well. Also had to find screws close in size and thread then recut the heads to size and slot them using my b&d 20v battery drill. Hand cut and filed out a side cocking lever for it as well that was missing. And last the top lever spring was missing so I used a sawzall blade detempered it, cut the piece and did the form work then retempered and annealed it. Worked beautiful. Was a project from my wifes uncle that came to me in a coffee can of parts with a barrel and butt stock.
Oh god, wish i knew all this before like 8 years back, found an old vz58 bayonet stuck in ground and it was so rusted i left it there. 2 months back i found it again, at same place, but that NOW is just purely ruined, the soil in the forest i live near to is extra mineral-ish in ground, and it rains alot...
Greetings from Czech Republic, Mark ! As always, me and my younger brother ( gunsmith, works at CZ) love your vids.
Mark you need to have T shirts made ... DO THE MAINTENANCE!
I am 110% supportive of refinishing, repairing, rebuilding, and/or conserving a dying piece of historical machinery or gear like a firearm or bayonet like this. The things were designed and built to be effective tools and used to do work. What good is a rotten, broken tool that's slowly rusting away, or is slowly being eaten by mold and termites?! Ick.
My ex-dragoon 1922 hex M91/30 is wonderful. Nice bore, numbers matching, but the stock was not original and there was some fossilized cosmoline in the nooks and crannies that was gross. Bit of a sticky bolt syndrome too. The stock was an arsenal replacement from post WW2. There is a marking on it that's clear as day denoting that fact. It had the typical and horrible fugly "Rusky Red" shellac finish on it which looked like it had leprosy after all these years. I researched and determined that some of the very early rifles had a traditional oil finish prior to the switch to shellac. That allowed me to comfortably choose Danish oil for the refinishing. :) It's at least somewhat appropriate. I believe 3 coats were applied. It's at the point where another 1-2 coats would bring out a shine which I didn't want. It is now simply beautiful! I didn't sand away any valuable blood and guts from Stalingrad because the stock was from the late 40s or 50s. No value was lost and now the rifle looks handsome and admirable and functions smoothly just as it should be. Well...as handsome as a Mosin Nagant can be. 😸😸😸 It looks as it would have looked back in the 20s a few years after it was given to a soldier fresh out of the crate and gone through a bit of fighting. The bolt and interrupter work perfectly; no bolt-opening mallet required. I'm happy with it. I would not do this to a rifle that was all matching and not fugly. 🤷🏻♂️ In my opinion, this is the way. Guns were meant to be fired. They were meant to be admired and appreciated. If no extreme historical value exists, get rid of the decay and wind the clock back a few decades. Honor the tool and repair the neglect that past unappreciative individuals imposed upon it.
Love his constant jabs at the word "patina".
Came home from work in the 70’s sometime and found wifey had sold my smuggled M-14 bayonet and Kabar for 5 bucks each in yard sale. We stayed married, barely.
Love the drill and handfile trick. I used to call it the poor man's lathe if i needed to alter screws or make pins/detents.
The undiscussed topic is the safety angle. Much less available torque and WAY smaller rotating parts to get hurt by.....
You did that poor orphaned bayonet a great service. It looks fine. Forgotten for all these years, and in a moment recovered.
Bayonets have feelings too.......
The Australian Armour channel is selling their Tiger tank copy from the movie Fury , you should own it
Fantastic work on the bayonets, however I am here for the socks.
I remember my father using used motor oil like you just did. And afterwards he would go clean his hands with gasoline.... excellent content as always !
And some of my friends think that in stupid for cleaning and oiling the internals of my antique bayonets. Thank you for justifying my annual inspection and oiling of of my bayonets.
That is a bit more complicated that the bayonet I did for a Springfield Model 1873 last week. It did take two boiling’s. I would not have been willing to tackle the rifle if it wasn’t for your video earlier this year.
I have been amazed at the results of patina covered items after an hour or so in boiling tap water. Parts from Brown & Sharp and Starrett cleanup just as nicely as parts from Springfield , Winchester or Rossi.
on that note of boiling water, tap source matter? I have hard well water, where city water is heavy with chlorine.
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I don’t believe so. One can try some insignificant or non critical items. Today I was cleaning up some old carbon steel threading taps. The patina was such that they were hard to read. I can now read them easily.
Mark, I hope I get to see you work magic for years to come. True inspiration
Mark I watch lots of your videos and glean alot of information from them especially the rust bluing videos you did with bob. I like the fact your videos are no bs and the info always makes sense. Keep em coming I love refurbing the old ones.
Always a pleasure to see you maintain and preserve a piece of history. Thanks
I love the use of the "drill lathe" by the consummate gunsmith. That's all I have, that and my drill press, and I've made all kinds of pins and screws and little parts with them. Wish I had a Jet lathe but alas no room. Another fine video by the Anvil-
Have done the same, including making brass ferrule for colt grips from old brass plumbing fittings. Drills are handy for that.
The most amazing thing in this video. The use of an Easy Out, that isn't step one to just drilling the entire head off. 🤣🤣
there's about 10 people on the entire toobs that know how to use an easy out.
Good point! I've also used left-hand drill bits to pop them out.
11:48 "Scrub down the handles with a commonly available industrial solvent, you would call it water" 😆🤣🤣I wonder if that is imported from Flint, MI? 🤔 Or would that be too caustic?
You teach me SO much but I may finally have a word of advise for you.
Get a knipex pliers wrench. It has 98% replaced my Crescent AND my Slip joint pliers, along with providing me a great set of smooth jaw pliers. No marring, no slipping, and tremendous leverage. Handy for pushing in pins too. The medium sized ones are the best for most things and the jaws open so much wider than a crescent on the 6 or 7 inch whatever the metric is on that.
They were different at first.. but I truly don't know how I lived without them. Amazing @ss tool.
Knipex is extremely high quality German stuff. Kind of expensive but definitely well worth the "buy once cry once"
@@JeepWranglerIslander I do maintenance and construction for our business. Their electrical/wiring tools are tooooop notch. Makes jobs I hate enjoyable. But that pliers wrench gets BEAT. It goes with me to work, it moonlights on my gun/work bench. Goes with me in my forestry kit. Always goes with me when I leave the house on a longer roadtrip. Really just need to buy like 4 pairs but yeah. German and cheap dont go in the same sentence.
I used mine the other day with a breaker pipe to crack a muzzle device on a friends gun. Nary a mar. Made keaf springs with it. Used it as a field vise with a doubled ranger band on the handles. Use it every time I work on a vehicle or farm equipment. I got my monies worth in the first month when I was still figuring out how it could be employed...
Agreed. The Knipex Pliers Wrench are non marring even on Anodized Aluminum, amazing pliers. The 86 05 180 (1 1/2"), and 86 05 250 (2") are must haves that you didn't know you needed, until you've used them.
Tweaker and Crescent Hammer, a true Navy equipage requirement.
Around here we call those all 1/16ths wrenches or Missouri socket sets. Love your content. Helps me with ideas for my projects.
Haven't really gotten into bayonets, other than the OKC-3S bayonet that I got just to have something that fits on the AR. Fits the Mini-14 too. Basically, you put it on your rifle, say it looks cool, and back into the scabbard it goes.
Love the Folgers tin for cooling water!! I have the exact same thing beside my grinder!🙌
Those pointy bits are important. Outstanding.
It sucks that TH-cam won't let you show what you used to. I bet that this and other videos would be a hell of a lot longer and entertaining 😢
Power drill metal lathe, damn perfect idea sir. I’ll remember this, makes perfect sense, great application.
Love the high end lathe work!
Love the drill motor lathe. Max out what you've got. Bill Holmes is looking down & smiling.
I fn love refinishing old blades, it's seriously good therapy. 💯
Great video as ever Mark. Thankyou
Congrats on 100K subs! As an afficionado of anything edged, I highly approve. Do the [expletive deleted] maintenance!
I wish you had more time to make more of these educational videos. Valuable info in everyone.
Awesome video as always. Thanks for the all the info over the years.
Cheers.
Excellent craftsmanship, thanks for sharing
I haven't pulled my M1 Bayonet out for a while. I need to. It matches to my 1943 Winchester M1. Thanks very much for sharing.
Holds sopping wet bayonet covered in used motor oil, "yep this baby good for another 70 years of abuse!"
You couldn't be more right lol
I may get a chance to try my first conservation here shortly. Last from church asked me to appraise the pile of guns she was awarded in her recent divorce. A big pile of rare-but-cheap, one helluva bubba'd 30-06 that I told her to put a hefty disclaimer on (the wrist alone had been filed to under an inch diameter), and what could be a fairly valuable model 64 Winchester.... If the barrel and bore weren't entirely red....
There are some pretty nice repro stocks for Garands available, and if the Late Bubba didn’t mess with how the stock attaches, you can clip the new one back on.
Thanks, not everything that is refurbished has to have exotic tools and processes to make them at serviceable. Enjoyed the video.
I trained with M14 and those bayonets with the scabbards on. Once we learned the drills, we went about faced and went head to head with the squad behind us at double arm distance doing the same drills. Yea the bayonets just touched. The jab and parry were barrel on barrel. Had to keep you wits about you or you got hurt, or the FT Jackson sun would melt you.
Thank you again Mark!
Columbia in the summer..........Just Sayin.
@@marknovak8255 pretty sure that a full on steam line rupture in the engine room would be less hot than Charleston SC.
@@ScottKenny1978 Let's talk about Shreveport in August. Or Houston.
Loved it, I've been known to use a drill lathe too. 👍
Enjoyed the video. Great knowledge for the future!
Great vidoe mr. Mark
Thank you very much
Mark, great content as usual, thank you!
As always the pleasure is all ours Mr.Novak!
That used motor oil over park is a really cool look!
Of course those white socks just add another layer to your gunsmith wisdom, all you need now is a tartan kilt for style!
I love the eh patin uuh rust lol but honestly I like the fact you are showing amazing tips and tricks with basic tools there is something to be said for learning to do without 😉
Great Job Mark!!
Sometimes it takes a high level of IQ to find the simple solutions.
Always a pleasure.
Who knew that bayonet conservation could be just as absorbing as any firearm
Bayonet Conservation is just as important, while you can get repro's for some rifles, some bayonets are a finite resource and no repro's are made so you're stuck with whatever's out on the market. Particularly the M6 in this case, I'm just glad Mark was able to get those screws out.
Anything Mark does for these videos is absorbing
@@viking1236…AMEN on steroids 🫡🫡🫡
Or even a bag of rice
I remember going through bayonet training. I will never forget how hard it is to press that damn button to get it off the rifle. I always thought, well no way in hell these things will pop off in hand-to-hand. One of my favorite memories, because you have so much built-up anger and testosterone by the time you get to bayonet course & it's such a great release of all that angst. I can't imagine the horror of combat where going bayonet v bayonet would be. I'd rather never know. I always felt bad for the machine gun guys, yeah they get one, but they don't get the fantastic club that is a rifle to go with it. Your ability to fix and bring back to life so many different weapons just astounds me. Something about Yankees and technical hard to do things. Must be all that fantastic time indoors during the winter. Question, would it be better to use a drill press in order to get the head of the screw as close to perfectly flat or even a lathe to cut it down? I am quite amazed there weren't millions of these available. I suppose the military just melts down whatever bayonets aren't assigned to some other tasking when they changeover to new combat rifles.
No Sir, they don't specifically melt them. They break the blade off about an inch and a half above the hilt! I don't know if there is a 'Demil Standard' for bayonets. That is the condition of the ones that I got ahold of. I grabbed a few of different models for the grips and spare parts. They were demilled at Anniston.
Nice video. Ya'll Take Care, John
Not everyone has access to a lathe. I try to show other ways sometimes to show the possibilities
Question please. Used motor oil. I know you recommend certain oils. With that in mind, we know you like non detergent oils for conservation. When using used motor oil is it non detergent also ?
Most small engine oils in lawnmowers and such still use non detergent where cars use multi grade detergent oils. Then we start thinking about synthetic oils.
Might make a good video also for greater clarification.
Thank you for your educational abilities.
Very informative as always
It was been a pleasure watching
As always, thanks Mark!
Brilliant as always.
I Wanna See How Your Bayonet Turned Out All Reassembled Mark 😀😊😀👍🏼 You Did an Amazing Job on The Screw Restoration 😀
Excellent I think I'm going to make a tank for conversion as I like to restore old weapons thank you for sharing your knowledge five stars sir
Nice work.
Always good stuff, thank you.
I've seen better legs on a kitchen table! Great video and nice job rehabbing the screws!
Do one on servicing the local church organ as its coming up to that season soon, 😉 I bet it would be just as interesting
I have tried 3 times to do an episode about pipe organ service. One thing or another usually hoses up. Timing is the big thing, camera angles, and SOUND. The organ has to be available, too. The sound problem is stereo. Stevie Wonder and Ray Charles swim their heads around to capture the interactions of the sound around them, and we do that also when tuning. Have not been able to duplicate any of that, on a video that is watchable...Eventually, we will get it right.
@@marknovak8255 I'll look forward to that, I didn't realise that was the reason they moved their heads like that
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Always learning from you!
have had to do similar for missing screws on a few gun projects, find one of close length and correct thread then recut the head to fit what I needed and cut to length, I use the poor mans lathe too. Either a battery drill or drill press and a file
Interesting video.
Love the high-end milling machine at at about 7:40!
*lathe
How did you know I just dug up a bayonet for my M48 I just rust blued with you & Bob's help? A Psychic Gunsmith is spooky stuff. Keep it up.
I/m glad I watch this channel because I was about to do something stupid with two WW! era bayonets. Now I know for sure how to conserve them, they are two real cherries and I would hate to do something that reduced their value and appearance. You Rock Man!
And THIS is why we make the vides in the first place.
Thank you mark!!
Interesting, thank you Mark
Another outstanding Video, Thank you!
Are the temperature ranges of 190 to 195 pretty tight for Phosphating? Or do I have some fudge room?
I am not sure how accurate my thermometer is, did not know if should sweat about getting a fancy one.
Ive been building a trench gun based on a norinco 1897 and hand made parts.. I found some dude at a flea market selling some new bayonets. I think they were from Pakistan. but I ended up with 5 or 6 different styles all shiny and new. i have been distressing them to make them look less shiny and i never thought of used motor oil.... thanks.
Thanks for the video.
Damn. That was beautiful.
Thank You, Sir,.
Hey Mark I have that same lathe ! 🤣🤣
I wish you all could boost the sound a little bit--I have the TH-cam volume on maximum and the computer (master) volume approaching 8.9/10ths just to hear you fairly well, but it is something I hate to do because another non-Mark Novak video will be absolutely blasting if I forget to reduce.
You had me at blood groove.
Great video! I was curious if there is anywhere I can access your backlog of videos such as the videos on the 1891 Argentine mauser work, if I remember correctly you rewired the handguard and I have a rifle in need, thank you!
(Mark) I don't know, I think it's an M6... Turn bayonet towards camera, huge U.S. M6 stamped on cross guard. 0~o It's the little thing that make me smile. ^~^
Is there ever a place for an ultrasonic cleaner in the conservation process?
Have 4 bayonetts and 2 survival knives the survival knives are leather segmented and the bayonetts 2 are wood and 2 plastic ones are for a an M1 and a M203,the wooden ones are for a carc.5.5 Italian, and a 7.7 japanese rifle.
Look at those pants!! I mean socks Lol 😂 still love ya tho!! 😎
What brand of ez outs are you using? The last two sets I've had sucked and they stripped on me because they were softer than the screws.
great video. my son just bought an Enfield 303 and was lucky enough to get the bayonet with it. would it be a bad idea to do it the way you did in this video? it is in fair condition but i am not sure what kind of shape the mechanism is in.
Dam i just love Novaks vids as they are always top notch!
I wish you did more videos
Thx, I have a couple of old jammed up Swedish mauser bayonets I now have a clue on how to get back in working order, but I think I'll start with the WD40
Mark ive removed about 10,000 10/32 and 8/32 stainless on commercial aircraft over the years. The real fun is when the #2 easy out goes snap. Kroil is a magic thread juice.
Mark, is that zinc or manganese? Is there any way to duplicate that green color of stuff that has been stored for decades in Cosmoline and does that green finish develop on zinc-phosphate or manganese-phosphate?
Legend. I am a novice bayonate refurb for myself. You have told me I need to revisit my refurbs hahaha. Great info, and anything further on bayonates from time to time would be great. All content is amazeballs. Ps. I have deactivated rifles. Not allowed to own much here in Belfast. Is it worth bluing deactivated ww2 and nam M16A1?
another goodn
Gonna take mine apart now! Shorter m1 Garand bayonet. Korean conflict era
they shortened them during ww2 from 16" to 10". then again to 6" during korea.
I just had the horror of watching another "restoration" video of a WW2 issue RAF jack knife and the guy took a blow torch and a dremmel to it. Heat treat and parkerized finish instantly gone. Tool ruined. They took the sheen off the bakelite as well.
Mark, you don’t have a metric crescent wrench? I’m surprised
I sometimes miss working on USGI and old milsurps.
I’ve got my grandfathers bayonet from WWII, it was carried and used!! The sheath is the ONLY Thing that needs restored but then I’m ruining history Lol he bent it so it wouldn’t rattle, like most. So I’m on the fence 🤷♂️🤦♂️
Sounds like you want to "conserve" it, not "restore" it. Mark has some good content about the difference.
Keep the scabbard he carried and bent by all means! Get another scabbard if necessary to have. What a treasure to have!
Why do thay call them ez outs when its not ez or out
"Blood Groove" - there's a phrase to stir the senses ... or the stomach!
Mr. Novak... what do you recommend for a bench polisher? (for polishing/carding) Looking at the RPM ratings, it seems that most all of the ones I am seeing that are considered "low RPM" are just under 1800rpm. Anything out there with something below 900rpm? I can't seem to find anything. Thinking my next step will be a shaft and pulley system to reduce the speed.
Polishing is about pulling the largest wheel you can at the highest RPM you can get. 1725 (4 pole motor) is actually the slowest I would want to spin. Just my opinion.
@@marknovak8255 Thank you, sir!
I recently got one from Eastwood so far I love it, & the price was just slightly more than harbor freight, & the shafts are longer, use a drill or drill press on slow for carding
For carding I use an adjustable drill press from harbor freight. Get there's different models that have different available speeds. Chuck a carding wheel in it and go to town!