Toji has precognition and insane sensory abilities. He would be able to see something coming. And then he would use the Inverted Spear of Heaven to turn it off. But yea, brute forcing through it is kinda crazy😂.
@@nikjovan4816also how will he use ISOH to disable it. ,swing it around hoping gravity will be disabled,since he can't use it to block it nor can he exactly attack it nor does it have any thing to hit it or disable it unlike infinity which hr can make contact with ,Also even with precog they are pretty similiar in speed amd strength
@@nikjovan4816he has to pierce through the gravity which would be nigh-impossible when it's actively pushing him away, simple contact isn't enough when Gojo's Red still overpowered Toji WHILE clicking against isoh's blade
Exactly, but that's not proof Kenjaku can perceive the soul because Sukuna couldn't only until he was in Yuji's body. Better proof is the fact Kenjaku could distinguish between physical and soul damage like he did so against Takaba.
@@Levathonno he doesn’t. In the story when kenjaku beat a 3 vs 1 against choso, yuki, and tengen maki who has been stated and compared to toji as equals says to yuta “we cannot beat this man conventionally. Which is due to his divine domain expansion and 3 abilities. He would clap anyone in a 1 vs 1 who isn’t named gojo or sukuna. He beat a reality warper and only lost because he got distracted and yuta was teleported by toji to get passed his sensing.
I think you can argue a toji win with similar stats and toji being able to bully 99% fo kenjakus curses just like Yuki did tojis advantage though is that he is a better h2h fighter and can't be hit by kenjakus domain sire hit from what we understand
@@KVNKMN69the same Kenny who stated he'd have trouble with Jogo and Mahito, those two don't even compare to Toji and you calling him a glazer😂 Read your manga
@@TheEternalFlame57”if kenjaku has one fan in him” head ahh I saw your house comment. You’ve come to your senses. Kenjaku owns multiple homes because he’s the head the of the Kamo clan. Astute observation
Kenjaku can perceive the soul, he was the one who literally taught sukuna Kenjaku also has soul feats of beating Geto's (in shibuya) Toji is equal to maki, but even maki states she can't even beat kenjaku??? If toji's nullification could work on geto, why didnt the curses toji slashed immediately turn on geto? Undoubtly & indoubusuly, kenjaku solos
No that wasn't prime maki + strength ≠ guaranteed win. Toji has shown to be faster considering he blocked red point black which even sukuna couldn't, sukuna is alr faster than kenjaku, maki not being able to defeat kenjaku was based upon her thinking that yuta=yuki, but later yuta defeated kenjaku proving otherwise
@@SwastikChauhan-dr2qg the red fest doesn't work at all as that was from a teen gojo who is leagues weaker than current gojo so that scaling doesn't work and no Yuta defeating kenjaku doesn't null in void the statements about none of them being able to do so conventionally cause Yuta didn't beat him in a fair one v one he had takaba tire and lower kenjakus gaurd then he had Todo use boogie woogie which is disorienting if you aren't prepared for it and then managed to beat kenjaku and then Todo even backs this all up saying Yuta might not have been able to beat a tired and guard dropped kenjaku without his help same with maki
@@Nathan24634 you are both right and wrong with red feat it doesn't work but not because it's teen gojo there is no way to state weather or not his output changed between then and current, the reason the red feat doesn't work is because spear of heaven which nullifies ct's. which means there no way of telling how much of red was a on tojo or spear. todo didn't use boogie woogie in the kenjuke fight. moreover the manga says maki can't beat kenjaku that it has to be yuta.
Jesus christ i dont think this level of glazing was possible Kenny sweep, not even a question. If Maki said they couldn't do shit then Toji also aint doing nothing.
Bro if Kenny was that weak they should have just send maki to deal with him but that wasn't the case , he is the 3rd or 4th strongest MF in the series for a reason
18:12 maki being able to resist a character whos practically fodders stun technique does not automatically mean shed be completely resistent to anti gravity which can hold down special grade sorcerers
i think its a mid to high diff for kenjaku. but i agree kenjaku would win simply because he has mostly all of the memories regarding toji vs geto's fights so he knows how toji works or fights, and kenjaku is kore experienced than geto by a margin
For once Kenjaku’s gonna be the one GIVING the backshots and violating Toji Edit: NO WAY WHAT???????!! I guess some things never change, Kenny once again takes it from behind 😔
@@RestlessGamblrrI agree with you because he is very durable he took a hallow purple and survived for a conversation and was still standing up when he died
@RestlessGamblrr my bad , idk why youtube notified me a day later your question. I'll try to keep my points sort. 1.Gege was asked directly in the fan book if Kenjaku could take Gojo or Toji's body and he responded with, no because Gojo is too strong but Toji isn't impossible but he wouldn't because his ability and his body might counteract each other. 2. In JJK 0 gege stated yuta lost all of his power at the end of 0 and it was why his outfit was black. Even tho he got his rank back he's weaker , his feats are just worse and so is his lore . . He goes from boundless curse energy to half of Sukuna . He gets overpowered by Ryu physically while he can over power get with playful cloud which scales directly off of physical strength and Geto id physically over Gojo. . Yuta no longer has her curse but the vessel left behind and it's blatantly weaker . There are multiple statements about Geto being a threat, Gojo thinks Rika is a threat to him and that get would kill them after the time skip , he was right as they both had to power up and almost die to win while he was nerfed . The 30% chance of winning is in reference to gojo and the school/affiliates. The 10% was the big family's and the rest of society jumping in ( toji got folded by teen gojo and even if we say he's nerfed which is fair he doesn't have these implications) . He's able to pull up to gojo in person with no prep while the disaster curses literally can't. Not to mention he calls Geto strong and then weak. ( He actually says "the enemy is too strong". Toji saw teen Geto has a threat and literally amped himself before engaging him. Geto is able to react,tag, damage and even out pace when he almost took his worm. Just look at how he bullied dagon, just blitzes and runs up on him doing whatever he wants and can't do that to geto. The wrap this up Kenjaku is stronger than Geto. Gege has too many statements that he clearly planting to hype up his strength, you can put him at levels you just can't put Toji ( above heavy hitters) not to mention the nobito speed thing id likely im reference to his travel speed not his combat .
14:50 why are you talking like thats unimpressive? Considering the ap kenjaku has being completely helpless against him for 6 seconds right in front of him is extremely bad news.
Straight up rage bait. Anything good that can possibly be said about Toji is said and overstated. Anything that could be said about Kenjaku is eather understated or ignored. Bad video, unsubscribed.
18:05 Alright, false equivalent, lmao. Bro is comparing some fodder semi grade 1 to a special grade 💀🙏 Prove he has the lifting strength to resist the unknown strength of Kenny's gravity. Since you claimed it 'wouldn't phase him'.
Kenjaku objectively is getting slammed by Toji, "O-oh, but... He survived Yuki's blackhole!!" By doing a random asspull to 'counter' that blackhole? Yeah, I already know that.
@JustanAverageUnknown he absolutely doesn't. I don't know why you're bringing up the blackhole when I literally said nothing about it. Strawman fallacy
@@odin.... You're not even explain how Kenjaku even defeat him. And I brung up the blackhole part cause you guys love to bring up that feat, cause that's the only feat that makes him even looks strong, that's literally his best feat, so no strawman fallacy here, sadly for you.
nah this kenjaku downplay is ridiculous. maki who’s equal to toji herself stated very clearly that the entire jujutsu team “can’t beat kenjaku through conventional means”. she stated her reasoning clearly, that being that, yuki is a sorcerer she believes is relative to yuta, yet combination of yuki, best barrier user ever tengen, and choso got easily dealt with by kenny even tho they came up with a way to counter his trump card (which toji can’t do) yuta also stated that HE needed to do the sneak attack on kenny because maki wouldn’t be able to deal with all the cursed spirits that would release after his death. todo also stated that if maki had done the sneak attack, it wouldn’t have worked because, he wouldn’t be able to help with maki with his boogie woogie like he did with yuta. kenjakus domain clearly effects objects without cursed energy because it is stated by TENGEN to be the same as sukunas domain in shibuya. the gravity also OBVIOUSLY broke the floor beneath yuki. in any other domain with a closed barrier the floor would become the barrier as it floats. in kenjakus open domain, the floor remained the same floor of tegens lair, and got completely shattered under yuki by his sure hit gravity. meaning someone like maki with no cursed energy could still be targeted by his domain. this whole vid is straight glaze
Dagon has less durability than Hanami, he has more endurance. That’s the misconception 3:30 Maki never overpowers Sukuna. They were moving. She used his momentum against him. He later facepalms her and slams her into concrete. She never overpowers him. Tojis healing is irrelevant here. He won’t have time to heal if any significant damage is done. That chain is useless. It didn’t even work against a teen gojo He can’t hide behind kenjakus curses because Kenjaku has the same vision as his curses 10:33 this really says nothing. He uses his body as a domain later on and uses lapse on his body Uses mini uzumakis Then absorbs tengen 11:02 Getou was stronger than vol 0 yuta so downplaying him ain’t do much here Toji scales above teen getou who wasn’t even special grade. Impressive for a monkey but it won’t get him far here And “anything kenjaku can do, getou can” No. The spinning cap trick kenjaku did against yuki is not only physically impossible for getou but it’s also an ancient art that Getou would not have access to. Kenjakus physicals is beyond getous due to kenjakus skill and knowledge. Furthermore. Kenjaku can and will survive as merely a head and has actual high tier healing - unlike getou and furthermore, unlike Toji. Like I said before, any significant damage dealt to Toji proves fatal. If kenjaku loses an arm, he heals it back. To address the Yuta statement: you’d have to prove that this applies to all sorcers even those that are unknown because Takaba existed and so did Yuki and yet neither of their abilities had been revealed at that point It’s similar to the Mahito and Jogo statement that either of them would be capable of giving kenjaku a hard time - thus using this to downplay kenjaku. When in reality it should either upscale the disaster curses or only applies to kenjaku limited to CSM and not trying to exorcise them [12:20 Nah we not gonna gloss over this: Yuki got SAVED by Tengen. She didn’t survive the domain. And Gravity is a very useful tool to reset and hinder the opponent and in the domain it will crush you to death - especially considering how anti gravity survived the gravitation pull of a literal black hole with the output to crush the earth Kenjakus black hole reaction feat also created a speed meta. Toji and maki did not, even if you don’t subscribe to this it is definitely something worth mentioning] Furthermore, people say no mention is made of yutas speed against so sukuna so they assume he didn’t increase in speed. No mention is made of his increase in speed after the Africa training either. So using this logic, kenjaku is faster than yuta based off this Getou scaling alone not even counting his reaction feat in shinjuku to a sneak attack prior to todous teleportation] 13:52 Using the physically strongest person in the series to downscale kenjakus durability is nasty work 14:20 Kurorushis life festering blade one shots toji 18:20 Maybe it’s just me but I think something that can go against a blackhole might be a tad more powerful than some weakling with an eye ability Kenjaku can also adjust the output of gravity and turn Toji into paste 19:03 Cleave/Dismantle are optimised for certain things - they don’t work purely on those things alone. Cleave can attack concrete Dismantle can target sorcerers. Gravity attacks everything already so kenjaku doesn’t need to make such a distinction By virtue of his domain existing in the real world - Toji will be affected. Kenjakus domain does not create a separate space. That’s the difference between open domains and enclosed domains. Sukuna in shibuya himself states that if he were to enclose his barrier, he would be incapable of attacking Maki inside it 20:20 That shi wasn’t even aimed at him and was powered by one Curse🙏😭 Well done video but a lot of kenjaku stuff overlooked. I urge you to give kenjaku his flowers 🌹 Also, get Toji above Miguel first then we can start Toji v Kenjaku debates 💁♂️ There’s this literal narrative that maki ain’t even above Sendai yuta So I’d have a hard time believing Sendai fodder would beat Goatjaku Toji ≠ Top 5 Kenjaku victim Kashimo victim Yorozu Victim Luta victim Miguel Victim It’s a sad day to pay child support but toji wouldn’t know about that. Fails at being a father. Fails at being top 5. Fails at being a sorcerer. Fails at life.
@Generalmituna8079post awakened teen Gojo is nowhere near the same power as adult Gojo whom Miguel stalled for 10 minutes and Heian era Sukuna whom Miguel brawled with cmon now.
One thing u don’t take into consideration is knowledge kenjaku would most likely know everything abt toji and all his ancient curse tools and would probably already know the exact counters
If Toji was that strong. Maki and Takaba should have been more than enough to take down Kenjaku during Shinjuku. They would just jump him and then Takaba would use comedy to clean up the cursed spirits. Shinjuku Maki might be stronger than Toji too. They didn't do this because Maki and therefore Toji would lose to Kenjaku. It's that simple. Kenjaku made the death paintings, used idle transfiguration and made the incarnated sorcerers so I would be shocked if he wasn't aware of the soul. Toji gets worn down by the open domain and jumped by curses. I mean hell, Yuta is very clearly stronger than Maki by all accounts and even he wasn't sure he could beat Kenjaku in a 1v1. If Yuta could for certain, he would've sent Takaba and Todo to Shinjuku.
@@guilha1506in anime he blocks it which is actually an anti feat for ISOH In manga he gets hit but he says it’s a 50/50 I think of him dodging red and blocking blue is easy
@@guilha1506 Him being blitzed can be easily explaied because he was caught off guard by Gojos awakening. Its actually a better feat if he took the Red directly with minimal injuries. Also, it makes more sense as ISOH should have nullified Red if Toji had actually blocked.
@toddasome12 Maki didn't have the context to his fight with Yuki and changed her mind later by being very adamant that she should've gone after Kenny in hindsight. Outdated statement.
@@jackaboynaylor9273i think she and toji win this matchup but it isn't easy and it's just because of it being a favorable matchup for them unlike with Yuta where it's a pretty bad matchup in all honesty and Yuta should beat either maki or toji
Absolute toji glaze, kenjaku is literally stated to be the best hand to hand fighter in jjk 😂😂 and even if yuki's ct output was weakened she was still using her cursed technique and in the 2nd to last episode of the shibuya incident we saw kenjaku react to the piercing blood choso shot at uraume
This is quite possibly gods greatest L Using dura neg weapons≠ap Blitzing genuine fodder isn’t that impressive Maki has good endurance but mid durability Toji doesn’t even have the endurance Kenny has better ap durability iq and abilities Toji got speed and hax It’s a terrible matchup for Kenny but he still slams
@@Levathon speed advantage? Yes Blitz no as maki feats are just getting blitzed by sukuna One shot? No Jenny took hits from yuki Better than having worse durability feats than jogo
@@Cyanduck485 Maki feats are keeping up with a sukuna who while weaker was blitzing itadori who i think we both know >> kenjaku in speed Even when sukuna went all out she still managed to blocked the black flash ISOH to the head gg SSK to the head gg What worse durability feats than Jogo? The red? the red that was being held back to keep jogo alive and didn't even touch jogo yet exploded on his fingertips? tanking cleaves Bf amped dismantles and two all out black flashes from Sukuna>>>>Anything kenjaku has ever shown. Yuki's mass punches end up being circular scaling.
Didn’t the people of Jujutsu High say that all of them together (not including Gojo) couldn’t take on Kenjaku (or that they can’t defeat him through „conventional means“)? Maki is with Jujutsu High, who is as you state, on Tojis level, so by that logic Toji wouldn’t stand a chance. And saying that Toji has a „resistance to curses“ is pretty much disproven after the statement, when that one cursed spirit with the black hair and many eyes launched its domain, he was cut by the scissors, so no, he isn’t just „immune to curses“. „The gravity wouldn’t phase him“ is also a crazy sentence, if it was able to completely crush Yuki under it. And what was that all about the domain?? You explained that it isn’t straight up Sukuna's and talked about how Toji swallows the cursed spirit so it doesn’t get hurt but have you maybe, just maybe thought about Toji himself? Because the sure-hit is a „sure-hit“ it will hit Toji upon activation (seems logical). So Toji gets crushed on the ground and if he doesn’t really get hurt and it maybe even just slows him down, that doesn’t matter all that much, because Kenjaku will just pull up and physically overwhelm him because the guy is still getting hit by the technique constantly, Kenny either launches a mini Uzumaki or a complete Uzumaki or idk he will find a way to severely injure him. And at last saying that Yuki is below pre-Sendai Yuta because of the statement that he is „second only to Gojo in unusual abilities“ is also not very valid, because it literally states UNUSUAL ABILITIES, not overall stats or strength or sth along those lines
Nice video regardless Unfortunately Hakari canonically only stronger than yuta when yuta is limited to curse speech Due to that statement yuta made ofc It’s simple really. Hakari is not a heavy hitter 😢 This is why narratives are important and takes precedence over statements The “stronger on a roll” statement was made before yuta got all those Sendai abilities And it implies hakari would just outlast yutas 5 minutes and Rika manifestation So take the statements and stuff into context The Jogo/Mahito statement was made when we only knew about kenjaku having CSM for example But later on it’s implied that everyone including Maki and especially maki would be incapable of taking on kenjaku - not counting gojo because it’s obvious and he was gonna fight sukuna Kenjaku also has a divine domain but people out here saying he would domain clash with the likes of yuki or yuta You’d never hear folks saying this about Sukuna or Gojo
@@yaboiplank6764 Kenny still had his gravity technique in the body of Geto, hence why it applies in a hypothetical fight with the disaster curses. No one had the context for Yuki's fight with Kenny based on what Choso said when they came to the conclusion that they can't beat Kenny normally. From Maki's perspective, he just bullied Yuta with the help of Choso and the best barrier user when in reality, he was pressed by a weakened Yuki and Choso. The reason why she was weakened being because the thumb was an old fashioned shut-in that was useless for the plan they prepared that relief on him. Not only that, bro stopped Choso from trying to salvage the situation 😭 Kenny proceeds to almost die and only survives because the technique he had happened to be an ideal counter to her black hole. Just addin' Todo alone to that group like how he was used in their latter plane can save Yuki from his domain and then trap him in her's. Megumi can ignore his gravity by hiding in the shadows and even use it to help drag Kenjaku into them. He could even turn a domain clash into a three-way clash to try and make all of them break if it seems like Yuki would lose. Maki can sneak him. Yuji can use him being Sukuna's vessel against him. Yuta with Choso can attack him with big AOE's to make his domain break, neg his curses, neg his techniques or jujutsu in general. Kenny isn't allat.
They kenjaku downplay is wild. Seriously, he was being held down by Garuda after piercing blood was coming for him. And him cut by yuta isn't bad cause it means yuta is strong enough to be able to do that. Doesn't make for a win, though. Just cause toji has resistance to curses doesn't mean they are immune to the effects applied through CE otherwise a lot of what they face wouldn't happen, and ISOH only nulls that's which he has being shown to touch getting messed up by the elephant curses and gravity isn't part of that. A weaker character technique doesn't now mean it would be equal to gravity, especially with that clapped technique.
This entire video gets debunked by yuji saying “we can’t beat this man conventionally” while maki was in fucking consideration. He also fought maki in a 3v1 against HIM. And this is after awakened. How tf is this a debate?
Outdated statement. Maki later says she could’ve killed him. Even then a single statement doesn’t override layers and layers of anti feats for kenjaku and superior scaling for Toji
@ that’s interpretive context,maki simply states she could’ve went instead of yuta. That’s doesn’t mean maki or yuta had to sneak kenjaku. Rather just killing him the most effective way possible. Also your acting like getting snuck isn’t an anti feat no matter what You can’t just state a premise under a whole 20 min video breaking down why kenjaku gets clapped lmao
@@wannabeafricanboy5779 Nuh uh. They made a plan to sneak kenjaku cuz they simply can't beat him. Even kusakabe says that if they manage to deal with sukuna somehow, they won't be able to take down kenjaku. Maki saying they cant beat him literally debunks everything. They even needed takaba and todo to sneak him. Yuta says that even maki could have sneaked him but later the cursed spirits would have been a problem for her to deal with. so they needed rika to take care of them
All jokes aside : Kenjaku is stronger than toji in overall but in a 1vs1 fight with prep time toji no diff kenjaku since he only needs to stab him once with the inverted spear of heaven because kenjaku's life is baised on his transplanting technique that can be nullified by the inverted spear of heaven and that wil cause his instant death , toji can do that since his 3mach speed and yuki who is around 0.7 mach speed was able to lend her CT on Kenjaku so it's an easy W
I swear if I see Maki, Toji upscaling I'm gonna rant. Ok, nah this is wild upscaling. Mai's sacrifice wasn't about her overall limit, but the limit of the HR and her potential. Mai being her twin who didn't want to get stronger meant Maki couldn't despite how much she trained (the 2 being viewed as one) and Mai essentially nerfed Maki's Hevenly Restriction by giving her a tiny fraction of CE. We've seen he train, look at how she had her HR capped, Mai was fully limiting her. That's how being twins work. But she trained beyond that level and that's why she did so well at Goodwill. And then there's simply the scaling of Maki and Yuji vs nerfed Meguna. The raws have stated Meguna was nerfed in that initial confrontation, even his ce reinforcement (aka his stats) but they weren't nearly as bad as his CT nerf. So the nerfed heian Sukuna was definitely stronger than nerfed Meguna. All in all, to say Maki post TS was the same level means that Yuji and everyone else had marginal gains at best, especially when you consider this Sukuna perception blitzed a piercing blood and Choso, with only Yuji being the only one to react. Putting him well above Mach 3. And then you have Yuji just straight up racing Sukuna, and while Yuji is well slower, it's not a difference of being blitzed just outpaced, where we've seen even a 2x difference (Finger bearer vs 2F Sukuna) lead to blitzing. We then have Maki take a black flash from a Sukuna who is established to be stronger. And get up to still fight with good performance. Meanwhile Toji was worried about fighting unawakened teen Gojo.
@@synsimito If you want as a kenjaku pfp to classify a 20 min video from a guy that would clap you in any jjk debate as just glaze then that’s fine, but your wrong and that’s fine
@@wannabeafricanboy5779 Like any of those mf have a higher ground in what theyre saying Everyone have their conclussions but blindly following them because they are popular is wildest shepherd behaviour
I don't think Inverted Spear of Heaven negates Curse Techniques like the way you explain it, rather that it disables/bypasses it by cutting into the curse technique (henceforth him cutting into gojo's infinity and bypassing it) I would also like to mention that maki says that Kenjaku cannot be defeated thru conventional means, which is why Yuta had to bushcamp him in order to secure the dub. Don't forget that he needed Takaba to distract Kenny + Todo to teleport him so he could blitz Kenny by surprise.
The only way kenjaku can somewhat react and predict tojis attacks is at the literal empty flat space but even then I highly doubt he would be able to see this guy coming 🙏🏻
You are downplaying Kenjaku crazy First, you said Kenjaku has gravity.... He doesnt. He has Anti-Gravity System, alongside its reversal - Gravity. Youre acting like Gravity just pins people down? No, it crushes them. Look at what happened to Yuki. If any sorcerer that doesnt have some special durability got caught in his domain expansion, they would be turned into red paste. Anti-Gravity System in itself is also useful since he can legit negate gravity. Kenjaku has a open domain (the one Kenjaku has very high battle iq. You also really dont talk about how... Kenjaku has millions of cursed spirits, including special grades like Kurorushi and Ganesha? He cannjust release 100,000 cursed spirits on Toji and that man will be exhausted if not death. If thats not enough, he can use more cursed spirots, like a million. You also act like he has the same abilities and stats as Geto when he doesnt. Geto doesnt know how to use mini uzumaki, or do what Kenjaku did with Mahito. Hes a way better Cursed Spirit Manipulation user. He also understands Cursed Energy and Uses it better since hes been alive for over a thousand years and knew so much he got bored and started doing experiments. He has the most experience out of anyone. He knows about the soul and because of that he can attack it like Yuji or Mahito. He objectively knows the most about cursed energy and jujutsu sorcery. He also has RCT, something Geto lacks. He has more stats then Geto and does what Geto did better.
7:31 'Some reason' Bro, we heal and since they have far better bodies than normal humans, it isn't hard to conclude that their innate healing has grown into moderate regeneration as healing is a bodily function.
10:55 now debunk number 1: the gojo statement this statement is probably the biggest source of kenjaku downplay in the whole series however am here to tell you it's more than meets the eyes "your body even your ce" now the first problem should be obvious enough what is gojo referencing when saying "your ce" many were quick to point the gun at ce manipulation as if ce signatures dont exist gojo would more than likely be talking about geto's ce signature it would very obviously give him the best read if kenjaku was truly geto because gojo had known geto for years and knows how his ce is like another think you have to keep in mind is that there's actually a chance the six eyes isn't actually telling the full truth which at first sounds ridiculous but just walk with me here gojo looks at kenjaku sees nothing different about him from geto on the surface that makes sense until you realise that gojo who can see the technique of a person didn't see that kenjaku was legit holding onto three techniques which geto most certainly didn't have this brings in the chance of kenjaku's body hoping having a reason for remaining unexplained while it's headcanon I suspect kenjaku's body hop hides kenjaku as a whole Making him exactly like his host except it's all a lie this would actually make sense for kenjaku when you realise what sorcerers are at their core which is con artist and kenjaku is no different anyway moving on from that kenjaku's ce efficiency for starters it's not geto lvl I don't know how 1 statement somehow makes you think it's geto lvl gojo seeing no difference in kenjaku's ce is a matter of ce signature and more importantly kenjaku has shown he can manipulate his ce better we see this with mini uzumaki a maximum technique compressed into miniature size and also something I wanna say is gojo not seeing a difference in kenjaku compared to geto wouldn't even make them equal as it's still a very real possibility gojo saw that kenjaku was stronger than when he last saw geto but didn't point it out because geto could have trained and that just adds to gojo referencing ce signature rather than ce as a whole anyway back to what I was saying mini uzumaki is kenjaku blatently showing better ce manipulation than geto but that much should be obvious anyway because he himself has said he's been at constant conflict and battle naturally that would make someone's ce manipulation high now this whole thing doesn't even really matter as unlike most think kenjaku has scaling that straight up disproves him being equal to geto and it all starts with uraume in shibuya choso fires piercing blood uraume barely reacts kenjaku easily reacts of course the first thing you'd hear would be "Uraume was off guard" which doesn't matter either way as it doesn't change the fact they're movement speed isn't fast enough to dodge it rather they could only block and either way piercing blood is at it's fastest once first fired kenjaku then later against yuki shows he can react to piercing blood at gunpoint and move to deflect it while weighed down so it's definitely safe to say he's decently faster than uraume now that we've established that we can go over uraume vs hakari while we saw very little of the fight (the start an intermission quick check and ending) that is enough to prove kenjaku scales relative to yuta via hakari we know uraume is slower than kenjaku overall but they're still fast enough to prepare their hands to grab Hakari's leg keep in mind hakari was running full speed ahead at them yet they were still fast enough to do that not to mention they can at least perceive Hakari's movements where this gets interesting is the fact kenjaku while not trying at all performs better against piercing blood than uraume just by that alone kenjaku while holding back would be fast enough to react to hakari and parry his attacks then it gets interesting with a full power kenjaku because he should then be able to land hits of his own on hakari and keep up in combat and movement speed with him now ofc the reason this would make him relative to yuta is because hakari is at the bare minimum relative because of how much he gets compared to yuta. Now then whats left??? Oh yeah win cons toji vs kenjaku is a really tricky fight lets start with Toji's hax which is pre cog air stepping and soul dmg if I missed anything tell me in the comments kenjaku's hax are csm gravity domain expansion being able to see the soul (toji can as well)rct domain amplification simple domain and thats about all I can think of but even then hax is pretty much a given for kenjaku who just has more consistent and powerful hax abilities now for win cons many will say kenjaku has non but am afraid not so as we know toji and maki obviously faster than kenjaku by a blizt difference is a maybe their win con is just cutting kenjaku's head off then kenjaku's is wearing them down and finishing them off now ofc toji could achieve his win con by just playing it smart and attacking at the right moment however kenjaku's is one that involves his domain while his domain can't hit toji it's there to buff him if you're not aware domain expansions buff the users stats in a similar way to a video game according to gojo Kenjaku already being as fast as hakari would go from getting blizted to being able to react to toji then there's his csm and gravity now while csm isn't really useful against top tiers that only when geto uses it kenjaku has better useable of it to the point a bunch of his low grade curses can beat a choso lvl fighter now while that's not really anything to toji it's gonna be annoying when kenjaku uses the curses to hide himself and sneak toji we see this work with megumi where he reacts to toji via using rabbit escape ofc I dont mean react react but I more mean handle Toji's speed considering kenjaku's massively fasted than megumi and has more to use he would be able to do the same thing except it would lead to him landing hits on toji. Overall this fight is super close but if I had to say it kenjaku at his worse is winning by the skin of his teeth and at best high extreme diffing toji gambler if you see this I love hour videos and keep up the good work!
The speed downplay is crazy how you gonna say Maki and Toji are able to react to lightning and still go yeah mach 3 or kenjaku reacting to the blackhole whilst getting pulled in?
16:53 this statement is made under the assumption that kenjaku has to capture them instead of killing them. Capturing something without killing it is obviously significantly harder than just killing it
The only way Kenjaku is going to use Curse manipulation is by being them to near death and way below his level, so it still makes Kenjaku look bad as characters like Yuta, who on same level as Maki = Toij wouldn't have trouble under any Circumstance.
@@odin.... Gege says he could use it on them if he was in a one on one fight, but that he would have a tough time with Mahito and Jogo. It wouldn't make sense for that to be in regards to absorbing them since it implies it wouldn't be tough to fight them, and if that's the case, he could easily weaken them which would make them easy to absorb like when he did just that to Mahito.
@jthesamurai6102 Kenjaku put Maki on the same level as Yuta, and Hakari called them the heavy hitter, and Maki is able to see Sukuna slash better than any other Sorcerer which includes yuta, also tank 2 black fiash , dismantle , Cleve as well keeping up with a Sukuna who going all out.
I agree with the conclusions due to the reasons you brought up which align with the narrative and how much seriously Kenjaku takes Maki in the first place, but there are things that I disagree with and should be clarified for clarity's sake. You mentioned that Maki and Toji are way faster than Kenjaku but that's false, the HR user's speed consists mostly on 3 sub-speed stats, perception, reaction, and movement speed. Toji's and Maki's movement speed is actually below the speed of sound or to the speed of sound as shown repeatedly with Naoya and CS Naoya, but their perception and reaction speed are so extraordinary thanks to precognition that it makes it seem like their movement speed has improved when it's really just their senses. The accurate speed scaling would go like this FM Rika amped Yuta>Base Yuta~Kenjaku~Toji. Todo wasn't confident that Maki would be capable of pulling the sneak attack on Kenjaku even if Kenjaku couldn't sense her, but with Yuta he could take the risk even if he didn't help. And as seen, even tho Todo used boogie woogie, his bet was right because Yuta could still be a bit faster than Kenjaku and complete the slash before Kenjaku's anti-gravity pulled off, proved by the fact the surrounding area is seen unscathed. However, in durability is the stat you should have glazed Toji on because Maki tanking Nue's positive charge, an attack that could penetrate through JP Hakari's defenses is an extremely good feat.
@@Levathon 1.This is just false. No mention is made of the curse spirit swarm. They didn’t even predict it would happen 2.naoya moves in a straight line
@@Levathon "You're wrong, Maki. You aren't a viable target for my boogie-woogie. It's hard to say if Okkotsu would have succeeded without my help. Not to mention, Okkotsu and Rika's power were necessary to stop the rampaging cursed spirits." (Todo, chapter 269) Like Todo said, you're too, wrong. Additionally, Panda and Inumaki agree with Todo and back him up, and Maki herself too doesn't disagree. Because of precognition and not because of her actual movement speed. You clearly haven't read the comment.
@@yaboiplank6764 Each to their own, but there really isn't anything Kenjaku can actually do but just fight until he eventually loses. Kenjaku's domain is completely useless here sadly.
Even the whole “reacting to black hole” thing not only isn’t an oversight, but also just isn’t a speed feat. It’s a reaction and IQ feat, nothing else. As Yuki was explaining the technique she was about to use, Kenny had understood what she was talking about already, and only then did he have time to protect himself from the black hole. It wasn’t after the black hole was created, it was while Yuki was talking about it. He even internally explains it like the earth being small enough to fit in the palm of someone’s hand. Kenny got no feats👍
If this was the case they would've sent Maki instead of Yuta and Todo, especially if she could "massacre" him with relative ease, not it with this one chief lmao. Also this doesn't even take into consideration of Kenjaku as a character on his own, he's over a THOUSAND years old. He has ALL of Geto's memories, so he knows about Toji's inventory. He is a master with cursed energy and domains, he realizes he'll get blitzed, he just modifies his own domain and fucking blows up Toji with dozens of Mini Uzamakis and Anti-Gravity would for sure affect him, even with Heavenly restriction resistance, some young semi-grade 1 curse could do it even for a second then a special grade for sure do it manipulating literal gravity. Honestly more of an Anti-Feat for Maki and Toji. And Doesn't know about the Inverted Spear of Heaven, really??? crazy bias but there are some points I agree with about Toji scaling. Honestly hard to put Maki or Toji high up in the verse because the 2 would most likely lose in a 1v1 to an awaken teen Gojo or a incomplete Sukuna, but thats just to say how much of a difference there is between the strong and the strongest.
And to continue my glazing, the Noabito feat that carries toji was disproven in Noaya vs Maki Maki wasn't faster than Noaya. She was just able to perdict him and see through his technique
The Glaze in this vid is ridiculous, from saying Geto and Kenjaku are equal in stats when that doesn't make sense given Kenjaku is way better in CE Efficiency Trying to compare TEEN GOJO'S 🔴 TO ADULT GROWN ASS MAN SHINJUKU GOJO'S 🔴 Saying he could brute force gravity👾 when no one does that ever unless you have an ability to propel yourself with which Toji doesn't Kenjaku wins mid difficulty at best but realistically Kenjaku wins low-mid difficulty
Kenjaku wasn't nerfed. Soul damage doesn't mean you're getting damaged physically and Kenjaku is literally seen unscathed. It's been said repeatedly that your physical condition can affect your overall stats and even CT output.
@@jackaboynaylor9273 Miguel can stall a stronger Gojo and Geto scales above Miguel who is equal to Kenjaku. Toji gets blitzed and 1 shot by hidden inventory Gojo.
@@wannabeafricanboy5779 He isn't wrong its literally just Toji glaze Tojis best durabilty feat is surviving a red and the thing is toji would've died to it if weren't for the ISOH and the worm protecting his ribs
@ tojis best durability feat is maki durability surviving two sukuna black flashes. There’s no way you don’t think any other character who isn’t Yuji or gojo doesn’t get absolutely eviscerated if they were hit the same way
@wannabeafricanboy5779 I mean six did a match up like this and said Kenjaku wins. And he does, he wins mid diff. He has gravity, Uzumaki, mini Uzumakis, curse spirits, and hand to hand. Also he has a better healing factor than Toji. Also Kenjaku did kinda survive Yuki's black hole....
@@enenra6417 nah I asked six a couple weeks ago, he believes maki beats anyone who isn’t gojo or sukuna. Which is the real based take but the community isn’t ready for it until a couple years from now. Just like the minato takes
@@4superco I can answer for him. It's because open domains were never explicitly stated to effect it's surroundings and that Sukuna's domain only effects it's surroundings due to dismantle effects. Cleave works on curse energy and dismantle on inanimate objects. Kenny's domain doesn't or haven't been stated to have the same effect. The only similarity it has to Sukuna's domain is that they're both open.
@judgemasterneimaz8260 WTF? You know the ONLY reason why Domain's with closed barriers aren't able to target Maki/Toji is cause they can't detect them? That's a weakness open barrier domain does NOT has, this is like saying an open domain that uses gravity to attack won't affect the floor just cause it doesn't have curse energy. So absurd
@@4superco no the reason why sukunas can is because dismantle I believe and the reason why he uses an open barrier to catch them isn't that a closed barrier wouldn't be able to hit them but that they can refuse to enter it unlike a barrierless domain which doesn't allow them to refuse entry as there is no entry
Yeah Toji really doesn't have much of an advantage. The ONLY advantage he has really is speed. Firstly, anti-gravity system is downplayed like hell. Against someone with no rct, Toji is taking serious damage. And it counters him because he needs to get close in order to even do damage. The only counter to anti-gravity is ranged techniques. Additionally, Kenjaku's knowledge of the soul allows him to repair it. It was never stated if it is more taxing to heal soul damage but ig we can assume it is. And about domain, Kenjaku absolutely wouldn't use it. As we've seen it doesn't have a way to target HR users, so I doubt he would just waste it like that. Likely though, the main win condition is mini-uzumaki. Scales insanely high due to scaling above anti-gravity and can be used frequently (because it doesn't consume all his curses). As for his curses, they'd definitely be a problem for Toji. The only reason Yuki made them look so weak is bc her punches are probably the strongest physical hits in the verse, even above blue amped gojo or sukuna. Her strength is ridiculous. Kenjaku is way smarter than Toji so there is no doubt he can use those curses to stall until he can use anti-gravity again. Overall Toji loses mid-high diff, Kenjaku doesn't even need Maximum Uzumaki
Wait 13:17 . Wasn’t the author commenting on the the opposite. Speed going from infinite to Mach. I think he meant to say the Mach stuff was what was crazy. Tho I still think it doesn’t put him on his own realm of speed. It probably still just upscales the speed of the top tiers
I don't think Toji would be unaffected by Kenjaku's antigravity technique, he might disable it with inverted spear but Kenjaku can just increase the output of the technique. Still, even if Toji gets trapped by the antigravity cursed technique, it won't matter because it only lasts 6 seconds. And I'm sure Kenny is gonna need more than that to kill Toji.
How is it possible for so many top tier battles to be "one sided"? I feel like you just make that the title of the video so that many people click on it.
Open barrier domains can target things without CE, including kenjaku's. Why? Bc the reason that regular domains are unable to target toji/maki is bc the BARRIER registers them as an inanimate objects which is why when someone expands their DE, maki/toji dont automatically enter the DE bc the barrier exludes them like it does inanimate objects and they have choose to enter. In comparison, open barrier domains exist in the real world and not a constructed space separate from reality. Sukuna set dismantle to target inanimate specifically bc hes an asshole and likes destruction and we know that is the reason bc he had this condition placed in his domain 1000 years before toji (the first physically gifted heavenly restricted user) came into existence. But heres the thing, but here is the thing, WHY is sukuna's DE able to target inanimate objects in the first place when closed barriers cannot, I mean if sukuna opened a closed barrier DE, would his DE no longer target inanimate objects bc his DE barrier will exclude them right? Its bc of the open barrier, but sukuna specifically makes dismantle target inanimate objects bc I think that is the rules of an open barrier; we see when kenjaku opens his DE, he targets yuki with his fingers and that causes her to get crush, so he probably made the specific target to be yuki but he can target inanimate objects or things without CE if he choose too. The ground around yuki even gets crushed and not just her. Edit: another thing that backs up my point about the targetting system with open barrier domains is when sukuna first used his DE on the finger bearer. Now sure, u could say that maybe gege hadnt figured out how he wanted sukuna's DE to work, which I doubt; if dismantle and cleave active at the same time in MS, even if he only actived it for a moment, why did only the finger bearer get sliced and the surrounding environment didnt get atomized by dismantle? Bc sukuna only imbued cleave to target the finger bearer and left dismantle out.
had to re export this bs TWICE
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Restless does Toji have a 30% chance of beating volume 0 Gojo?
Did Toji even have a 30% chance of beating Teen awakened Gojo?
@explosivegrape Geto never got Rika and did whatever with her to be anywhere near comparble to Gojo, lol.
@@jackaboynaylor9273 30% is in the manga. Don’t argue with me argue with Gege. With Rika it’s 99%.
@@explosivegrape teen gojo>>>>>Kenjaku
Does Toji have a house? Can Toji pay taxes? Nah I don’t think so. Easy Kenny dub
Kenny owns the whole Kamo clan, I know he’s stacking paper, while Toji is mooching of women and sleeping under a bridge.
Just crawl inside the worm and now he has a mobile home with plenty of space.
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He'll kill Kenjaku and take his money/house.
Shout out to eternal you were one the first utubers I subbed too good too see some of y'all collabin
The first time I've ever wanted to say Toji loses a fight.
well, he does
@@sixfromtokyo no way even six disagrees
Toji just brute forcing thru Kenjaku gravity manipulation is the highest level of glaze I’ve ever witnessed can we be fr
Toji has precognition and insane sensory abilities. He would be able to see something coming. And then he would use the Inverted Spear of Heaven to turn it off. But yea, brute forcing through it is kinda crazy😂.
@@nikjovan4816also how will he use ISOH to disable it. ,swing it around hoping gravity will be disabled,since he can't use it to block it nor can he exactly attack it nor does it have any thing to hit it or disable it unlike infinity which hr can make contact with ,Also even with precog they are pretty similiar in speed amd strength
@@nikjovan4816 no
@@nikjovan4816he has to pierce through the gravity which would be nigh-impossible when it's actively pushing him away, simple contact isn't enough when Gojo's Red still overpowered Toji WHILE clicking against isoh's blade
Don't mess with toji fans they have never ever read jjk
And I thought Yuki was a donut but the way he glazed this man toji
Kenjaku can perceive the soul who do you think taught Sukuna how to split his soul into 20 fingers
Yeah great point. That’s literally it, ken is getting sliced in half
That’s cool and all but wounds from SSK still take more time to heal than regular attacks Kenny dies lol
@@KANA_VR_ no? If you can perceive the soul, it's the same as for regular RCT
@@mattb.7079 it is more like it takes more "effort" than normal wounds (along with taking more CE)
Exactly, but that's not proof Kenjaku can perceive the soul because Sukuna couldn't only until he was in Yuji's body.
Better proof is the fact Kenjaku could distinguish between physical and soul damage like he did so against Takaba.
Toji glaze is insane bro
keep glazing kenjaku
@@Usernameokay I'm not sorry he's Gege's secret favorite character, lmao
argue against it instead of saying "glaze" 🤓
I hate this dumb ass toji glaze, completely nonsensical
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Yeah this video gotta be a troll the kenjacku downplay is actually insane 😭😭
then argue against it.
Toji still no diffs no matter what you say
@@Levathonno he doesn’t. In the story when kenjaku beat a 3 vs 1 against choso, yuki, and tengen maki who has been stated and compared to toji as equals says to yuta “we cannot beat this man conventionally. Which is due to his divine domain expansion and 3 abilities. He would clap anyone in a 1 vs 1 who isn’t named gojo or sukuna. He beat a reality warper and only lost because he got distracted and yuta was teleported by toji to get passed his sensing.
I think you can argue a toji win with similar stats and toji being able to bully 99% fo kenjakus curses just like Yuki did tojis advantage though is that he is a better h2h fighter and can't be hit by kenjakus domain sire hit from what we understand
@@Levathon toji glazer think that 8f low diff victim is beating top 4 dude in verse besides gojo, sukuna and MBA kashimo.
@@KVNKMN69the same Kenny who stated he'd have trouble with Jogo and Mahito, those two don't even compare to Toji and you calling him a glazer😂
Read your manga
Black guy opens fridge meme*
As soon as I got to the point in the video where you’re mentioned I saw your comment 😂
@@TheEternalFlame57”if kenjaku has one fan in him” head ahh
I saw your house comment. You’ve come to your senses. Kenjaku owns multiple homes because he’s the head the of the Kamo clan.
Astute observation
Kenjaku can perceive the soul, he was the one who literally taught sukuna
Kenjaku also has soul feats of beating Geto's (in shibuya)
Toji is equal to maki, but even maki states she can't even beat kenjaku???
If toji's nullification could work on geto, why didnt the curses toji slashed immediately turn on geto?
Undoubtly & indoubusuly, kenjaku solos
Yes
No that wasn't prime maki + strength ≠ guaranteed win.
Toji has shown to be faster considering he blocked red point black which even sukuna couldn't, sukuna is alr faster than kenjaku, maki not being able to defeat kenjaku was based upon her thinking that yuta=yuki, but later yuta defeated kenjaku proving otherwise
@@SwastikChauhan-dr2qg the red fest doesn't work at all as that was from a teen gojo who is leagues weaker than current gojo so that scaling doesn't work and no Yuta defeating kenjaku doesn't null in void the statements about none of them being able to do so conventionally cause Yuta didn't beat him in a fair one v one he had takaba tire and lower kenjakus gaurd then he had Todo use boogie woogie which is disorienting if you aren't prepared for it and then managed to beat kenjaku and then Todo even backs this all up saying Yuta might not have been able to beat a tired and guard dropped kenjaku without his help same with maki
@@SwastikChauhan-dr2qg toji and maki have the same stats
@@Nathan24634 you are both right and wrong with red feat it doesn't work but not because it's teen gojo there is no way to state weather or not his output changed between then and current, the reason the red feat doesn't work is because spear of heaven which nullifies ct's. which means there no way of telling how much of red was a on tojo or spear.
todo didn't use boogie woogie in the kenjuke fight. moreover the manga says maki can't beat kenjaku that it has to be yuta.
Jesus christ i dont think this level of glazing was possible
Kenny sweep, not even a question. If Maki said they couldn't do shit then Toji also aint doing nothing.
He prob think Toji can 2v1 Yuki and choso
@@Jib_jibs bro probably thinks toji can 1v3 maki, yuta, and hakari😂
Bro if Kenny was that weak they should have just send maki to deal with him but that wasn't the case , he is the 3rd or 4th strongest MF in the series for a reason
@@ahmedmastafa935 yeah people constantly underestimate the man with a thousand years of cursed knowledge
That maki is stronger than Toji
@Jib_jibs based on what is maki stronger than toji
@@Nathan24634literally everything there's nothing Toji has which surpasses anything maki has done
@Jib_jibs and that would be the case except she is only ever called a demonic fighter equal toji zenin
Maki: Kenjaku can fold any of us in a 1v1 fight with no tricks
The fandom: ❌👂
this fandom consistently rejects what the actual characters in the story say and the narrative itself
The way you described Kenjaku in this you would think he wasn’t in the top 5 of the verse😂
@@_General_Grievous__ honestly I have him top three some don't but he is top 5 I read a bunch of the comments and saw some of his arguments and holy
18:12 maki being able to resist a character whos practically fodders stun technique does not automatically mean shed be completely resistent to anti gravity which can hold down special grade sorcerers
That toji durability scale was glazed af
Eh he was still alive after getting half his body taken off
@@michaelnorris5189that isn’t an durability feats it’s an endurance
@@Nsnsms1 no it’s not he is durable enough to survive that for more then a minute
@@Nsnsms1 endurance is how long you can keep fighting or how long do you have energy for
@@michaelnorris5189 thats stamina, durability is how much it takes to damage you and endurance is how much of that damage you can take and keep going
6:45 this was a much MUCH stronger gojo than the teenage one toji faced. I agree this isn't an anti feat but you're pushing it.
lmfao yea that was glaze
@@RestlessGamblrrto the highest degree
Now, who thought Toji would actually win? 💀💀😭😭 (I didn’t watch the video.)
you'd be shocked at the lengths the toji glazers will go to defend their king
Me
Who thought the Yuta victim would win? 💀
Yap yap kenny actually slams yuta@@jackaboynaylor9273
@@PokèzaeOffical (cognitive disability*)
kenjaku genuinely low diffs ts is insane
i think its a mid to high diff for kenjaku. but i agree kenjaku would win simply because he has mostly all of the memories regarding toji vs geto's fights so he knows how toji works or fights, and kenjaku is kore experienced than geto by a margin
bro's allergic to valid takes 😭
For once Kenjaku’s gonna be the one GIVING the backshots and violating Toji
Edit: NO WAY WHAT???????!!
I guess some things never change, Kenny once again takes it from behind 😔
@@sufferingmp4102 Can I join?
@ As long as you pay Toji
@@sufferingmp4102 Oh, I'll be paying him alright 🥵
@@jackaboynaylor9273 could you pay for me too 👉👈🥺
Gonna heavy disagree with this one.
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@@RestlessGamblrrI agree with you because he is very durable he took a hallow purple and survived for a conversation and was still standing up when he died
@@michaelnorris5189 "took a hollow purple" ngga he got 1 shot, thats not a feat
@@Pepito74-q8fso could kenajku tank a hollow purple? Think not dumbass
@@RestlessGamblrrbro this is so ass
@RestlessGamblrr my bad , idk why youtube notified me a day later your question. I'll try to keep my points sort.
1.Gege was asked directly in the fan book if Kenjaku could take Gojo or Toji's body and he responded with, no because Gojo is too strong but Toji isn't impossible but he wouldn't because his ability and his body might counteract each other.
2. In JJK 0 gege stated yuta lost all of his power at the end of 0 and it was why his outfit was black. Even tho he got his rank back he's weaker , his feats are just worse and so is his lore .
. He goes from boundless curse energy to half of Sukuna
. He gets overpowered by Ryu physically while he can over power get with playful cloud which scales directly off of physical strength and Geto id physically over Gojo.
. Yuta no longer has her curse but the vessel left behind and it's blatantly weaker
. There are multiple statements about Geto being a threat, Gojo thinks Rika is a threat to him and that get would kill them after the time skip , he was right as they both had to power up and almost die to win while he was nerfed
. The 30% chance of winning is in reference to gojo and the school/affiliates.
The 10% was the big family's and the rest of society jumping in ( toji got folded by teen gojo and even if we say he's nerfed which is fair he doesn't have these implications)
. He's able to pull up to gojo in person with no prep while the disaster curses literally can't. Not to mention he calls Geto strong and then weak. ( He actually says "the enemy is too strong".
Toji saw teen Geto has a threat and literally amped himself before engaging him. Geto is able to react,tag, damage and even out pace when he almost took his worm.
Just look at how he bullied dagon, just blitzes and runs up on him doing whatever he wants and can't do that to geto.
The wrap this up Kenjaku is stronger than Geto.
Gege has too many statements that he clearly planting to hype up his strength, you can put him at levels you just can't put Toji ( above heavy hitters) not to mention the nobito speed thing id likely im reference to his travel speed not his combat .
Idk what TH-cam is doing I did not put this shit twice 😂
14:50 why are you talking like thats unimpressive? Considering the ap kenjaku has being completely helpless against him for 6 seconds right in front of him is extremely bad news.
lol
Straight up rage bait.
Anything good that can possibly be said about Toji is said and overstated. Anything that could be said about Kenjaku is eather understated or ignored.
Bad video, unsubscribed.
18:05 Alright, false equivalent, lmao. Bro is comparing some fodder semi grade 1 to a special grade 💀🙏 Prove he has the lifting strength to resist the unknown strength of Kenny's gravity. Since you claimed it 'wouldn't phase him'.
The Kenjaku downplaying is incredible
Kenny obliterates 💯
😂😂💀💀💀💀these guys editing there comments after saying they didn't watch the damn video💀💀
@@SunDragon243 I edited my comment but because I came to the realization that toji loses
Haven't watched the video yet but Kenny slams.
I can already see the kenjaku downplay from a mile away 😮💨
Kenjaku objectively is getting slammed by Toji, "O-oh, but... He survived Yuki's blackhole!!" By doing a random asspull to 'counter' that blackhole? Yeah, I already know that.
@JustanAverageUnknown he absolutely doesn't.
I don't know why you're bringing up the blackhole when I literally said nothing about it. Strawman fallacy
Toji no diffs
Remind me when Kenjaku tanked a black flash from Sukuna 😭🙏
@@odin.... You're not even explain how Kenjaku even defeat him.
And I brung up the blackhole part cause you guys love to bring up that feat, cause that's the only feat that makes him even looks strong, that's literally his best feat, so no strawman fallacy here, sadly for you.
this might be god’s greatest L
Wtf 😂
STOP this garbage toji glaze holy crap🤦🏻♂️
nah this kenjaku downplay is ridiculous.
maki who’s equal to toji herself stated very clearly that the entire jujutsu team “can’t beat kenjaku through conventional means”. she stated her reasoning clearly, that being that, yuki is a sorcerer she believes is relative to yuta, yet combination of yuki, best barrier user ever tengen, and choso got easily dealt with by kenny even tho they came up with a way to counter his trump card (which toji can’t do)
yuta also stated that HE needed to do the sneak attack on kenny because maki wouldn’t be able to deal with all the cursed spirits that would release after his death. todo also stated that if maki had done the sneak attack, it wouldn’t have worked because, he wouldn’t be able to help with maki with his boogie woogie like he did with yuta.
kenjakus domain clearly effects objects without cursed energy because it is stated by TENGEN to be the same as sukunas domain in shibuya. the gravity also OBVIOUSLY broke the floor beneath yuki. in any other domain with a closed barrier the floor would become the barrier as it floats. in kenjakus open domain, the floor remained the same floor of tegens lair, and got completely shattered under yuki by his sure hit gravity. meaning someone like maki with no cursed energy could still be targeted by his domain.
this whole vid is straight glaze
Dagon has less durability than Hanami, he has more endurance. That’s the misconception
3:30
Maki never overpowers Sukuna. They were moving. She used his momentum against him. He later facepalms her and slams her into concrete. She never overpowers him.
Tojis healing is irrelevant here. He won’t have time to heal if any significant damage is done.
That chain is useless. It didn’t even work against a teen gojo
He can’t hide behind kenjakus curses because Kenjaku has the same vision as his curses
10:33 this really says nothing. He uses his body as a domain later on and uses lapse on his body
Uses mini uzumakis
Then absorbs tengen
11:02
Getou was stronger than vol 0 yuta so downplaying him ain’t do much here
Toji scales above teen getou who wasn’t even special grade. Impressive for a monkey but it won’t get him far here
And “anything kenjaku can do, getou can”
No. The spinning cap trick kenjaku did against yuki is not only physically impossible for getou but it’s also an ancient art that Getou would not have access to. Kenjakus physicals is beyond getous due to kenjakus skill and knowledge.
Furthermore. Kenjaku can and will survive as merely a head and has actual high tier healing - unlike getou and furthermore, unlike Toji. Like I said before, any significant damage dealt to Toji proves fatal. If kenjaku loses an arm, he heals it back.
To address the Yuta statement: you’d have to prove that this applies to all sorcers even those that are unknown because Takaba existed and so did Yuki and yet neither of their abilities had been revealed at that point
It’s similar to the Mahito and Jogo statement that either of them would be capable of giving kenjaku a hard time - thus using this to downplay kenjaku.
When in reality it should either upscale the disaster curses or only applies to kenjaku limited to CSM and not trying to exorcise them
[12:20
Nah we not gonna gloss over this: Yuki got SAVED by Tengen. She didn’t survive the domain.
And Gravity is a very useful tool to reset and hinder the opponent and in the domain it will crush you to death - especially considering how anti gravity survived the gravitation pull of a literal black hole with the output to crush the earth
Kenjakus black hole reaction feat also created a speed meta. Toji and maki did not, even if you don’t subscribe to this it is definitely
something worth mentioning]
Furthermore, people say no mention is made of yutas speed against so sukuna so they assume he didn’t increase in speed.
No mention is made of his increase in speed after the Africa training either.
So using this logic, kenjaku is faster than yuta based off this Getou scaling alone not even counting his reaction feat in shinjuku to a sneak attack prior to todous teleportation]
13:52
Using the physically strongest person in the series to downscale kenjakus durability is nasty work
14:20
Kurorushis life festering blade one shots toji
18:20
Maybe it’s just me but I think something that can go against a blackhole might be a tad more powerful than some weakling with an eye ability
Kenjaku can also adjust the output of gravity and turn Toji into paste
19:03
Cleave/Dismantle are optimised for certain things - they don’t work purely on those things alone.
Cleave can attack concrete
Dismantle can target sorcerers.
Gravity attacks everything already so kenjaku doesn’t need to make such a distinction
By virtue of his domain existing in the real world - Toji will be affected. Kenjakus domain does not create a separate space. That’s the difference between open domains and enclosed domains.
Sukuna in shibuya himself states that if he were to enclose his barrier, he would be incapable of attacking Maki inside it
20:20
That shi wasn’t even aimed at him and was powered by one Curse🙏😭
Well done video but a lot of kenjaku stuff overlooked. I urge you to give kenjaku his flowers 🌹
Also, get Toji above Miguel first then we can start Toji v Kenjaku debates 💁♂️
There’s this literal narrative that maki ain’t even above Sendai yuta
So I’d have a hard time believing Sendai fodder would beat Goatjaku
Toji ≠ Top 5
Kenjaku victim
Kashimo victim
Yorozu Victim
Luta victim
Miguel Victim
It’s a sad day to pay child support but toji wouldn’t know about that. Fails at being a father. Fails at being top 5. Fails at being a sorcerer. Fails at life.
"Miguel Victim" What is Miguel gonna do to Toji other than getting blitzed and served a 5 piece combo like the one Gojo gave him, genuine question.
@@Generalmituna8079Miguel getting blitzed? By who? The guy who got blitzed by teen gojo
Miguel blitzed Sukuna
TWICE!!!!! He fodderises that man
All that yap just for Toji to blitz and oneshot
@@yaboiplank6764 He got blitzed by an enlightened Teen Gojo which is a massive power boost, context is key.
@Generalmituna8079post awakened teen Gojo is nowhere near the same power as adult Gojo whom Miguel stalled for 10 minutes and Heian era Sukuna whom Miguel brawled with cmon now.
One thing u don’t take into consideration is knowledge kenjaku would most likely know everything abt toji and all his ancient curse tools and would probably already know the exact counters
If kenjaku can't perceive the soul, then how does he spite the soul of the old Sorcerer??
Epic vid bro
Devo ficar desapontado ou impressionado por você ter chegado a essa conclusão?
dude
@@RestlessGamblrrkenny is not losing to awakened gojo or teen gojo
If Toji was that strong. Maki and Takaba should have been more than enough to take down Kenjaku during Shinjuku. They would just jump him and then Takaba would use comedy to clean up the cursed spirits. Shinjuku Maki might be stronger than Toji too. They didn't do this because Maki and therefore Toji would lose to Kenjaku. It's that simple. Kenjaku made the death paintings, used idle transfiguration and made the incarnated sorcerers so I would be shocked if he wasn't aware of the soul. Toji gets worn down by the open domain and jumped by curses. I mean hell, Yuta is very clearly stronger than Maki by all accounts and even he wasn't sure he could beat Kenjaku in a 1v1. If Yuta could for certain, he would've sent Takaba and Todo to Shinjuku.
At 6:30, Toji blocking Red with ISOH is Anime only.
@@aldrenno5733 It’s heavily implied in the manga (either this or Toji got blitzed by manga Gojo, idk which one is worst for him)
@@guilha1506in anime he blocks it which is actually an anti feat for ISOH
In manga he gets hit but he says it’s a 50/50 I think of him dodging red and blocking blue is easy
@@guilha1506 Him being blitzed can be easily explaied because he was caught off guard by Gojos awakening.
Its actually a better feat if he took the Red directly with minimal injuries. Also, it makes more sense as ISOH should have nullified Red if Toji had actually blocked.
another banger.. this guy just keeps dropping jjk bangers..
toji is getting eye-diffed by kenjaku
Toji no diffs
@@Levathon Maki is litterally equal to toji and said herself she cant beat kenjaku by conventional means kenjaku owns the maki victim
@@toddasome12 faulty statement
@toddasome12 Maki didn't have the context to his fight with Yuki and changed her mind later by being very adamant that she should've gone after Kenny in hindsight. Outdated statement.
@@jackaboynaylor9273i think she and toji win this matchup but it isn't easy and it's just because of it being a favorable matchup for them unlike with Yuta where it's a pretty bad matchup in all honesty and Yuta should beat either maki or toji
Absolute toji glaze, kenjaku is literally stated to be the best hand to hand fighter in jjk 😂😂 and even if yuki's ct output was weakened she was still using her cursed technique and in the 2nd to last episode of the shibuya incident we saw kenjaku react to the piercing blood choso shot at uraume
Kenjaku should be able to perceive the soul
This is quite possibly gods greatest L
Using dura neg weapons≠ap
Blitzing genuine fodder isn’t that impressive
Maki has good endurance but mid durability
Toji doesn’t even have the endurance
Kenny has better ap durability iq and abilities
Toji got speed and hax
It’s a terrible matchup for Kenny but he still slams
Exactly
Toji blitzes and oneshots via maki feats
kenny doesn't have better durability lmao
@@Levathon speed advantage? Yes
Blitz no as maki feats are just getting blitzed by sukuna
One shot? No
Jenny took hits from yuki
Better than having worse durability feats than jogo
it’s almost as if i talked about soul split katana in the hax section
@@Cyanduck485 Maki feats are keeping up with a sukuna who while weaker was blitzing itadori who i think we both know >> kenjaku in speed
Even when sukuna went all out she still managed to blocked the black flash
ISOH to the head gg
SSK to the head gg
What worse durability feats than Jogo?
The red?
the red that was being held back to keep jogo alive and didn't even touch jogo yet exploded on his fingertips?
tanking cleaves Bf amped dismantles and two all out black flashes from Sukuna>>>>Anything kenjaku has ever shown. Yuki's mass punches end up being circular scaling.
Didn’t the people of Jujutsu High say that all of them together (not including Gojo) couldn’t take on Kenjaku (or that they can’t defeat him through „conventional means“)? Maki is with Jujutsu High, who is as you state, on Tojis level, so by that logic Toji wouldn’t stand a chance. And saying that Toji has a „resistance to curses“ is pretty much disproven after the statement, when that one cursed spirit with the black hair and many eyes launched its domain, he was cut by the scissors, so no, he isn’t just „immune to curses“. „The gravity wouldn’t phase him“ is also a crazy sentence, if it was able to completely crush Yuki under it. And what was that all about the domain?? You explained that it isn’t straight up Sukuna's and talked about how Toji swallows the cursed spirit so it doesn’t get hurt but have you maybe, just maybe thought about Toji himself? Because the sure-hit is a „sure-hit“ it will hit Toji upon activation (seems logical). So Toji gets crushed on the ground and if he doesn’t really get hurt and it maybe even just slows him down, that doesn’t matter all that much, because Kenjaku will just pull up and physically overwhelm him because the guy is still getting hit by the technique constantly, Kenny either launches a mini Uzumaki or a complete Uzumaki or idk he will find a way to severely injure him. And at last saying that Yuki is below pre-Sendai Yuta because of the statement that he is „second only to Gojo in unusual abilities“ is also not very valid, because it literally states UNUSUAL ABILITIES, not overall stats or strength or sth along those lines
Nice video regardless
Unfortunately
Hakari canonically only stronger than yuta when yuta is limited to curse speech
Due to that statement yuta made ofc
It’s simple really. Hakari is not a heavy hitter 😢
This is why narratives are important and takes precedence over statements
The “stronger on a roll” statement was made before yuta got all those Sendai abilities
And it implies hakari would just outlast yutas 5 minutes and Rika manifestation
So take the statements and stuff into context
The Jogo/Mahito statement was made when we only knew about kenjaku having CSM for example
But later on it’s implied that everyone including Maki and especially maki would be incapable of taking on kenjaku - not counting gojo because it’s obvious and he was gonna fight sukuna
Kenjaku also has a divine domain but people out here saying he would domain clash with the likes of yuki or yuta
You’d never hear folks saying this about Sukuna or Gojo
This is why I have Kenny as top 3 in the verse people underestimate the man with a thousand years of cursed knowledge
@@yaboiplank6764 Kenny still had his gravity technique in the body of Geto, hence why it applies in a hypothetical fight with the disaster curses.
No one had the context for Yuki's fight with Kenny based on what Choso said when they came to the conclusion that they can't beat Kenny normally. From Maki's perspective, he just bullied Yuta with the help of Choso and the best barrier user when in reality, he was pressed by a weakened Yuki and Choso. The reason why she was weakened being because the thumb was an old fashioned shut-in that was useless for the plan they prepared that relief on him. Not only that, bro stopped Choso from trying to salvage the situation 😭 Kenny proceeds to almost die and only survives because the technique he had happened to be an ideal counter to her black hole. Just addin' Todo alone to that group like how he was used in their latter plane can save Yuki from his domain and then trap him in her's. Megumi can ignore his gravity by hiding in the shadows and even use it to help drag Kenjaku into them. He could even turn a domain clash into a three-way clash to try and make all of them break if it seems like Yuki would lose. Maki can sneak him. Yuji can use him being Sukuna's vessel against him. Yuta with Choso can attack him with big AOE's to make his domain break, neg his curses, neg his techniques or jujutsu in general. Kenny isn't allat.
Bro's a contrarian for real.
Besides the fantastic duo of Sukuna and Gojo; Yuta and CT Kashimo are the only ones you can make a point about having even a change againts Kenny.
Toji would get no diffed
Its the opposite Toji slams the monkey
@@Levathoncap lil bro 😂😂
@@iamyourworstnightmare Nope Toji blitzes and oneshots the monkey
Kenjaku overestimates Toji and accidentally rips in half
Fr
They kenjaku downplay is wild. Seriously, he was being held down by Garuda after piercing blood was coming for him. And him cut by yuta isn't bad cause it means yuta is strong enough to be able to do that. Doesn't make for a win, though. Just cause toji has resistance to curses doesn't mean they are immune to the effects applied through CE otherwise a lot of what they face wouldn't happen, and ISOH only nulls that's which he has being shown to touch getting messed up by the elephant curses and gravity isn't part of that. A weaker character technique doesn't now mean it would be equal to gravity, especially with that clapped technique.
This entire video gets debunked by yuji saying “we can’t beat this man conventionally” while maki was in fucking consideration.
He also fought maki in a 3v1 against HIM. And this is after awakened. How tf is this a debate?
Outdated statement. Maki later says she could’ve killed him. Even then a single statement doesn’t override layers and layers of anti feats for kenjaku and superior scaling for Toji
@wannabeafricanboy5779 maki suggests she couldve sneaked Kenjaku instead of Yuta 😭 Maki cant beat Kenjaku ts the dumbest glaze ever
@ that’s interpretive context,maki simply states she could’ve went instead of yuta. That’s doesn’t mean maki or yuta had to sneak kenjaku. Rather just killing him the most effective way possible. Also your acting like getting snuck isn’t an anti feat no matter what You can’t just state a premise under a whole 20 min video breaking down why kenjaku gets clapped lmao
@wannabeafricanboy5779 everything he said was autistic Kenjaku would rape Toji
@@wannabeafricanboy5779 Nuh uh. They made a plan to sneak kenjaku cuz they simply can't beat him. Even kusakabe says that if they manage to deal with sukuna somehow, they won't be able to take down kenjaku. Maki saying they cant beat him literally debunks everything. They even needed takaba and todo to sneak him.
Yuta says that even maki could have sneaked him but later the cursed spirits would have been a problem for her to deal with. so they needed rika to take care of them
All jokes aside :
Kenjaku is stronger than toji in overall but in a 1vs1 fight with prep time toji no diff kenjaku since he only needs to stab him once with the inverted spear of heaven because kenjaku's life is baised on his transplanting technique that can be nullified by the inverted spear of heaven and that wil cause his instant death , toji can do that since his 3mach speed and yuki who is around 0.7 mach speed was able to lend her CT on Kenjaku so it's an easy W
The amount of glaze is insane
If that was the case then why they didn't sent maki to defeat kenny one v one ?
Because she's not built for that
exactly 😂
I swear if I see Maki, Toji upscaling I'm gonna rant.
Ok, nah this is wild upscaling.
Mai's sacrifice wasn't about her overall limit, but the limit of the HR and her potential.
Mai being her twin who didn't want to get stronger meant Maki couldn't despite how much she trained (the 2 being viewed as one) and Mai essentially nerfed Maki's Hevenly Restriction by giving her a tiny fraction of CE. We've seen he train, look at how she had her HR capped, Mai was fully limiting her. That's how being twins work. But she trained beyond that level and that's why she did so well at Goodwill.
And then there's simply the scaling of Maki and Yuji vs nerfed Meguna. The raws have stated Meguna was nerfed in that initial confrontation, even his ce reinforcement (aka his stats) but they weren't nearly as bad as his CT nerf. So the nerfed heian Sukuna was definitely stronger than nerfed Meguna.
All in all, to say Maki post TS was the same level means that Yuji and everyone else had marginal gains at best, especially when you consider this Sukuna perception blitzed a piercing blood and Choso, with only Yuji being the only one to react. Putting him well above Mach 3. And then you have Yuji just straight up racing Sukuna, and while Yuji is well slower, it's not a difference of being blitzed just outpaced, where we've seen even a 2x difference (Finger bearer vs 2F Sukuna) lead to blitzing.
We then have Maki take a black flash from a Sukuna who is established to be stronger. And get up to still fight with good performance. Meanwhile Toji was worried about fighting unawakened teen Gojo.
Holy glaze
NOT THE PLANK CALLOUT AHAHAHA
That man cooks me every time I say Yuta clears Kenny lmao
Kenny low-mid diff Toji w/o prep ngl
You think you know more than six and gambler. Who both say Toji beats kenjaku
@ Lmao yeah cuz it’s blatant glaze. Same as what you’re doing brodie
@@synsimito If you want as a kenjaku pfp to classify a 20 min video from a guy that would clap you in any jjk debate as just glaze then that’s fine, but your wrong and that’s fine
@@wannabeafricanboy5779 Like any of those mf have a higher ground in what theyre saying
Everyone have their conclussions but blindly following them because they are popular is wildest shepherd behaviour
@@wannabeafricanboy5779appeal to authority. It’s a sad day for free thinkers
Toji got beaten by gojo awaken in his teenage form😂😂😂😂😂
This is a anti feat how
I don't think Inverted Spear of Heaven negates Curse Techniques like the way you explain it, rather that it disables/bypasses it by cutting into the curse technique (henceforth him cutting into gojo's infinity and bypassing it)
I would also like to mention that maki says that Kenjaku cannot be defeated thru conventional means, which is why Yuta had to bushcamp him in order to secure the dub. Don't forget that he needed Takaba to distract Kenny + Todo to teleport him so he could blitz Kenny by surprise.
The only way kenjaku can somewhat react and predict tojis attacks is at the literal empty flat space but even then I highly doubt he would be able to see this guy coming 🙏🏻
Uh oh Gambler the Kenjaku fans ain't gonna like this one but I appreciate the based Toji scaling and respect 🙏🏽
You are downplaying Kenjaku crazy
First, you said Kenjaku has gravity.... He doesnt. He has Anti-Gravity System, alongside its reversal - Gravity. Youre acting like Gravity just pins people down? No, it crushes them. Look at what happened to Yuki. If any sorcerer that doesnt have some special durability got caught in his domain expansion, they would be turned into red paste. Anti-Gravity System in itself is also useful since he can legit negate gravity.
Kenjaku has a open domain (the one Kenjaku has very high battle iq.
You also really dont talk about how... Kenjaku has millions of cursed spirits, including special grades like Kurorushi and Ganesha? He cannjust release 100,000 cursed spirits on Toji and that man will be exhausted if not death. If thats not enough, he can use more cursed spirots, like a million.
You also act like he has the same abilities and stats as Geto when he doesnt. Geto doesnt know how to use mini uzumaki, or do what Kenjaku did with Mahito. Hes a way better Cursed Spirit Manipulation user. He also understands Cursed Energy and Uses it better since hes been alive for over a thousand years and knew so much he got bored and started doing experiments. He has the most experience out of anyone. He knows about the soul and because of that he can attack it like Yuji or Mahito. He objectively knows the most about cursed energy and jujutsu sorcery. He also has RCT, something Geto lacks. He has more stats then Geto and does what Geto did better.
7:31 'Some reason' Bro, we heal and since they have far better bodies than normal humans, it isn't hard to conclude that their innate healing has grown into moderate regeneration as healing is a bodily function.
I really thought he was joking but he wasn’t. He for real tried to say toji stomps kenjaku….
10:55 now debunk number 1: the gojo statement this statement is probably the biggest source of kenjaku downplay in the whole series however am here to tell you it's more than meets the eyes "your body even your ce" now the first problem should be obvious enough what is gojo referencing when saying "your ce" many were quick to point the gun at ce manipulation as if ce signatures dont exist gojo would more than likely be talking about geto's ce signature it would very obviously give him the best read if kenjaku was truly geto because gojo had known geto for years and knows how his ce is like another think you have to keep in mind is that there's actually a chance the six eyes isn't actually telling the full truth which at first sounds ridiculous but just walk with me here gojo looks at kenjaku sees nothing different about him from geto on the surface that makes sense until you realise that gojo who can see the technique of a person didn't see that kenjaku was legit holding onto three techniques which geto most certainly didn't have this brings in the chance of kenjaku's body hoping having a reason for remaining unexplained while it's headcanon I suspect kenjaku's body hop hides kenjaku as a whole Making him exactly like his host except it's all a lie this would actually make sense for kenjaku when you realise what sorcerers are at their core which is con artist and kenjaku is no different anyway moving on from that kenjaku's ce efficiency for starters it's not geto lvl I don't know how 1 statement somehow makes you think it's geto lvl gojo seeing no difference in kenjaku's ce is a matter of ce signature and more importantly kenjaku has shown he can manipulate his ce better we see this with mini uzumaki a maximum technique compressed into miniature size and also something I wanna say is gojo not seeing a difference in kenjaku compared to geto wouldn't even make them equal as it's still a very real possibility gojo saw that kenjaku was stronger than when he last saw geto but didn't point it out because geto could have trained and that just adds to gojo referencing ce signature rather than ce as a whole anyway back to what I was saying mini uzumaki is kenjaku blatently showing better ce manipulation than geto but that much should be obvious anyway because he himself has said he's been at constant conflict and battle naturally that would make someone's ce manipulation high now this whole thing doesn't even really matter as unlike most think kenjaku has scaling that straight up disproves him being equal to geto and it all starts with uraume in shibuya choso fires piercing blood uraume barely reacts kenjaku easily reacts of course the first thing you'd hear would be "Uraume was off guard" which doesn't matter either way as it doesn't change the fact they're movement speed isn't fast enough to dodge it rather they could only block and either way piercing blood is at it's fastest once first fired kenjaku then later against yuki shows he can react to piercing blood at gunpoint and move to deflect it while weighed down so it's definitely safe to say he's decently faster than uraume now that we've established that we can go over uraume vs hakari while we saw very little of the fight (the start an intermission quick check and ending) that is enough to prove kenjaku scales relative to yuta via hakari we know uraume is slower than kenjaku overall but they're still fast enough to prepare their hands to grab Hakari's leg keep in mind hakari was running full speed ahead at them yet they were still fast enough to do that not to mention they can at least perceive Hakari's movements where this gets interesting is the fact kenjaku while not trying at all performs better against piercing blood than uraume just by that alone kenjaku while holding back would be fast enough to react to hakari and parry his attacks then it gets interesting with a full power kenjaku because he should then be able to land hits of his own on hakari and keep up in combat and movement speed with him now ofc the reason this would make him relative to yuta is because hakari is at the bare minimum relative because of how much he gets compared to yuta.
Now then whats left??? Oh yeah win cons toji vs kenjaku is a really tricky fight lets start with Toji's hax which is pre cog air stepping and soul dmg if I missed anything tell me in the comments kenjaku's hax are csm gravity domain expansion being able to see the soul (toji can as well)rct domain amplification simple domain and thats about all I can think of but even then hax is pretty much a given for kenjaku who just has more consistent and powerful hax abilities now for win cons many will say kenjaku has non but am afraid not so as we know toji and maki obviously faster than kenjaku by a blizt difference is a maybe their win con is just cutting kenjaku's head off then kenjaku's is wearing them down and finishing them off now ofc toji could achieve his win con by just playing it smart and attacking at the right moment however kenjaku's is one that involves his domain while his domain can't hit toji it's there to buff him if you're not aware domain expansions buff the users stats in a similar way to a video game according to gojo Kenjaku already being as fast as hakari would go from getting blizted to being able to react to toji then there's his csm and gravity now while csm isn't really useful against top tiers that only when geto uses it kenjaku has better useable of it to the point a bunch of his low grade curses can beat a choso lvl fighter now while that's not really anything to toji it's gonna be annoying when kenjaku uses the curses to hide himself and sneak toji we see this work with megumi where he reacts to toji via using rabbit escape ofc I dont mean react react but I more mean handle Toji's speed considering kenjaku's massively fasted than megumi and has more to use he would be able to do the same thing except it would lead to him landing hits on toji.
Overall this fight is super close but if I had to say it kenjaku at his worse is winning by the skin of his teeth and at best high extreme diffing toji gambler if you see this I love hour videos and keep up the good work!
The speed downplay is crazy how you gonna say Maki and Toji are able to react to lightning and still go yeah mach 3 or kenjaku reacting to the blackhole whilst getting pulled in?
One Open Domain and it's gg.
Targets everything.
I knew this was gonna be a hard watch when we came out the gate with giving Toji Maki scaling.
Lmaoooooo toji glaze is crazy atleast hes not as bad as hakari
Kenny wins with an Army of Curses and an Open Domain Expansion. Easy GG, mid-diff win. It do be crazy how much you downolay Kenjaku though xd.
16:53 this statement is made under the assumption that kenjaku has to capture them instead of killing them. Capturing something without killing it is obviously significantly harder than just killing it
I’ve also heard it’s a mistranslation, just being bothersome like whenever he fights Choso.
The only way Kenjaku is going to use Curse manipulation is by being them to near death and way below his level, so it still makes Kenjaku look bad as characters like Yuta, who on same level as Maki = Toij wouldn't have trouble under any Circumstance.
@@odin.... Gege says he could use it on them if he was in a one on one fight, but that he would have a tough time with Mahito and Jogo. It wouldn't make sense for that to be in regards to absorbing them since it implies it wouldn't be tough to fight them, and if that's the case, he could easily weaken them which would make them easy to absorb like when he did just that to Mahito.
@@Nasir-jl2bjYuta is quite above Maki 💀
@jthesamurai6102 Kenjaku put Maki on the same level as Yuta, and Hakari called them the heavy hitter, and Maki is able to see Sukuna slash better than any other Sorcerer which includes yuta, also tank 2 black fiash , dismantle , Cleve as well keeping up with a Sukuna who going all out.
Comparing that Zenin bum’s technique to Antigravity System is wild 💀
I agree with the conclusions due to the reasons you brought up which align with the narrative and how much seriously Kenjaku takes Maki in the first place, but there are things that I disagree with and should be clarified for clarity's sake. You mentioned that Maki and Toji are way faster than Kenjaku but that's false, the HR user's speed consists mostly on 3 sub-speed stats, perception, reaction, and movement speed. Toji's and Maki's movement speed is actually below the speed of sound or to the speed of sound as shown repeatedly with Naoya and CS Naoya, but their perception and reaction speed are so extraordinary thanks to precognition that it makes it seem like their movement speed has improved when it's really just their senses.
The accurate speed scaling would go like this FM Rika amped Yuta>Base Yuta~Kenjaku~Toji. Todo wasn't confident that Maki would be capable of pulling the sneak attack on Kenjaku even if Kenjaku couldn't sense her, but with Yuta he could take the risk even if he didn't help. And as seen, even tho Todo used boogie woogie, his bet was right because Yuta could still be a bit faster than Kenjaku and complete the slash before Kenjaku's anti-gravity pulled off, proved by the fact the surrounding area is seen unscathed.
However, in durability is the stat you should have glazed Toji on because Maki tanking Nue's positive charge, an attack that could penetrate through JP Hakari's defenses is an extremely good feat.
It isn't that todo wasn't confident, it's that she wouldn't be able to deal with the cursed spirits rampaging.
And Maki was dodging naoya point blank.
@@Levathon
1.This is just false. No mention is made of the curse spirit swarm. They didn’t even predict it would happen
2.naoya moves in a straight line
@@Levathon "You're wrong, Maki. You aren't a viable target for my boogie-woogie. It's hard to say if Okkotsu would have succeeded without my help. Not to mention, Okkotsu and Rika's power were necessary to stop the rampaging cursed spirits." (Todo, chapter 269) Like Todo said, you're too, wrong. Additionally, Panda and Inumaki agree with Todo and back him up, and Maki herself too doesn't disagree.
Because of precognition and not because of her actual movement speed. You clearly haven't read the comment.
I disagree but appreciate both of your arguments.
Kenjaku fairly beats Toji
@@yaboiplank6764 Each to their own, but there really isn't anything Kenjaku can actually do but just fight until he eventually loses. Kenjaku's domain is completely useless here sadly.
Even the whole “reacting to black hole” thing not only isn’t an oversight, but also just isn’t a speed feat. It’s a reaction and IQ feat, nothing else. As Yuki was explaining the technique she was about to use, Kenny had understood what she was talking about already, and only then did he have time to protect himself from the black hole. It wasn’t after the black hole was created, it was while Yuki was talking about it. He even internally explains it like the earth being small enough to fit in the palm of someone’s hand. Kenny got no feats👍
Why does everyone love downplaying Kenny’s black hole feat. Doesn’t matter if it was “inconsistent” all that matters is that it happened lol
If this was the case they would've sent Maki instead of Yuta and Todo, especially if she could "massacre" him with relative ease, not it with this one chief lmao.
Also this doesn't even take into consideration of Kenjaku as a character on his own, he's over a THOUSAND years old. He has ALL of Geto's memories, so he knows about Toji's inventory. He is a master with cursed energy and domains, he realizes he'll get blitzed, he just modifies his own domain and fucking blows up Toji with dozens of Mini Uzamakis and Anti-Gravity would for sure affect him, even with Heavenly restriction resistance, some young semi-grade 1 curse could do it even for a second then a special grade for sure do it manipulating literal gravity. Honestly more of an Anti-Feat for Maki and Toji. And Doesn't know about the Inverted Spear of Heaven, really??? crazy bias but there are some points I agree with about Toji scaling.
Honestly hard to put Maki or Toji high up in the verse because the 2 would most likely lose in a 1v1 to an awaken teen Gojo or a incomplete Sukuna, but thats just to say how much of a difference there is between the strong and the strongest.
I refuse to watch this
And to continue my glazing, the Noabito feat that carries toji was disproven in Noaya vs Maki
Maki wasn't faster than Noaya. She was just able to perdict him and see through his technique
This is the first L ive seen from this channel .... kenjaku puts a collar on toji any day of the week
The Glaze in this vid is ridiculous, from saying Geto and Kenjaku are equal in stats when that doesn't make sense given Kenjaku is way better in CE Efficiency
Trying to compare TEEN GOJO'S 🔴 TO ADULT GROWN ASS MAN SHINJUKU GOJO'S 🔴
Saying he could brute force gravity👾 when no one does that ever unless you have an ability to propel yourself with which Toji doesn't
Kenjaku wins mid difficulty at best but realistically Kenjaku wins low-mid difficulty
how can he turn off gravity with inverted spear of heaven bruh, that shit is too small and couldnt even cancel red.
13:40 "he had his head sliced off by base yuta" yeah, while he was off guarded and tired from his fight with takaba
takaba did NOTHING to kenjaku the entire fight was literally just him and takaba goofing around and having fun
Now you're just making some BS headcanons bro he wasn't tired at all
Kenjaku wasn't nerfed. Soul damage doesn't mean you're getting damaged physically and Kenjaku is literally seen unscathed. It's been said repeatedly that your physical condition can affect your overall stats and even CT output.
Uh he wasn't tired at all actually, the cope is crazy.
@@PossiblyAkid The Damage Takaba's technique deals stacks. Once the technique is deactivated, the damage becomes real.
bro is glazing.
aint no way that thing stronger than hollow purple and world slash
Miguel low diffs Toji.
Kenjaku just violates the monkey.
Come again brother
Toji no diffs both in a 2v1
@@Levathon Toji got no diffed by teen Gojo, he’s a fraud.😭😭😭
Connect awakened Teen Gojo to Miguel or Kenjaku, lol
@@jackaboynaylor9273 Miguel can stall a stronger Gojo and Geto scales above Miguel who is equal to Kenjaku.
Toji gets blitzed and 1 shot by hidden inventory Gojo.
If Kenjaku was going up against Yuki which mind you they are both of yuta’s type level then maki or toji is not beating Kenjaku
I love Toji glaze but I don't think he's beating any of the special grade sorcerers
I'm glad you brought up Tojis arsenal, people never seem to talk about that when comparing Maki and Toji which is kinda annoying.
The toji glaze is insane
Do you think you know more than people who study this manga for living like six and gambler?
@@wannabeafricanboy5779 He isn't wrong its literally just Toji glaze Tojis best durabilty feat is surviving a red and the thing is toji would've died to it if weren't for the ISOH and the worm protecting his ribs
@ tojis best durability feat is maki durability surviving two sukuna black flashes. There’s no way you don’t think any other character who isn’t Yuji or gojo doesn’t get absolutely eviscerated if they were hit the same way
@wannabeafricanboy5779 I mean six did a match up like this and said Kenjaku wins. And he does, he wins mid diff. He has gravity, Uzumaki, mini Uzumakis, curse spirits, and hand to hand. Also he has a better healing factor than Toji. Also Kenjaku did kinda survive Yuki's black hole....
@@enenra6417 nah I asked six a couple weeks ago, he believes maki beats anyone who isn’t gojo or sukuna. Which is the real based take but the community isn’t ready for it until a couple years from now. Just like the minato takes
It’s close but Kenny ,slams cus of his exp and iq/biq
And his dura is def better
The misconception about open domains always hitting inanimate objects been giving me headaches in debates since kenjaku revealed his domain 😭
What's the misconception?
Elaborate on why Kenjaku's domain wouldn't work on Toji.
@@4superco I can answer for him. It's because open domains were never explicitly stated to effect it's surroundings and that Sukuna's domain only effects it's surroundings due to dismantle effects. Cleave works on curse energy and dismantle on inanimate objects. Kenny's domain doesn't or haven't been stated to have the same effect. The only similarity it has to Sukuna's domain is that they're both open.
@judgemasterneimaz8260
WTF?
You know the ONLY reason why Domain's with closed barriers aren't able to target Maki/Toji is cause they can't detect them?
That's a weakness open barrier domain does NOT has, this is like saying an open domain that uses gravity to attack won't affect the floor just cause it doesn't have curse energy. So absurd
@@4superco no the reason why sukunas can is because dismantle I believe and the reason why he uses an open barrier to catch them isn't that a closed barrier wouldn't be able to hit them but that they can refuse to enter it unlike a barrierless domain which doesn't allow them to refuse entry as there is no entry
Didn't we literally see kenjaku open barrier domain destroying the floor?
This is why you're my goat
Yeah Toji really doesn't have much of an advantage. The ONLY advantage he has really is speed. Firstly, anti-gravity system is downplayed like hell. Against someone with no rct, Toji is taking serious damage. And it counters him because he needs to get close in order to even do damage. The only counter to anti-gravity is ranged techniques. Additionally, Kenjaku's knowledge of the soul allows him to repair it. It was never stated if it is more taxing to heal soul damage but ig we can assume it is. And about domain, Kenjaku absolutely wouldn't use it. As we've seen it doesn't have a way to target HR users, so I doubt he would just waste it like that. Likely though, the main win condition is mini-uzumaki. Scales insanely high due to scaling above anti-gravity and can be used frequently (because it doesn't consume all his curses). As for his curses, they'd definitely be a problem for Toji. The only reason Yuki made them look so weak is bc her punches are probably the strongest physical hits in the verse, even above blue amped gojo or sukuna. Her strength is ridiculous. Kenjaku is way smarter than Toji so there is no doubt he can use those curses to stall until he can use anti-gravity again. Overall Toji loses mid-high diff, Kenjaku doesn't even need Maximum Uzumaki
Wait 13:17 . Wasn’t the author commenting on the the opposite. Speed going from infinite to Mach. I think he meant to say the Mach stuff was what was crazy. Tho I still think it doesn’t put him on his own realm of speed. It probably still just upscales the speed of the top tiers
bro what are we doing 😭
the dedication to the toji glaze is insane, i gotta respect it
I don't think Toji would be unaffected by Kenjaku's antigravity technique, he might disable it with inverted spear but Kenjaku can just increase the output of the technique. Still, even if Toji gets trapped by the antigravity cursed technique, it won't matter because it only lasts 6 seconds. And I'm sure Kenny is gonna need more than that to kill Toji.
How is it possible for so many top tier battles to be "one sided"?
I feel like you just make that the title of the video so that many people click on it.
Open barrier domains can target things without CE, including kenjaku's. Why? Bc the reason that regular domains are unable to target toji/maki is bc the BARRIER registers them as an inanimate objects which is why when someone expands their DE, maki/toji dont automatically enter the DE bc the barrier exludes them like it does inanimate objects and they have choose to enter.
In comparison, open barrier domains exist in the real world and not a constructed space separate from reality. Sukuna set dismantle to target inanimate specifically bc hes an asshole and likes destruction and we know that is the reason bc he had this condition placed in his domain 1000 years before toji (the first physically gifted heavenly restricted user) came into existence. But heres the thing, but here is the thing, WHY is sukuna's DE able to target inanimate objects in the first place when closed barriers cannot, I mean if sukuna opened a closed barrier DE, would his DE no longer target inanimate objects bc his DE barrier will exclude them right? Its bc of the open barrier, but sukuna specifically makes dismantle target inanimate objects bc I think that is the rules of an open barrier; we see when kenjaku opens his DE, he targets yuki with his fingers and that causes her to get crush, so he probably made the specific target to be yuki but he can target inanimate objects or things without CE if he choose too. The ground around yuki even gets crushed and not just her.
Edit: another thing that backs up my point about the targetting system with open barrier domains is when sukuna first used his DE on the finger bearer. Now sure, u could say that maybe gege hadnt figured out how he wanted sukuna's DE to work, which I doubt; if dismantle and cleave active at the same time in MS, even if he only actived it for a moment, why did only the finger bearer get sliced and the surrounding environment didnt get atomized by dismantle? Bc sukuna only imbued cleave to target the finger bearer and left dismantle out.
Ah yes the gege jogo mahito statement it's pretty clear cut kenjaku is trying to absorb them which means he can not deal serious dmg