The light skinned lady from the show he was talking about made a speech at the woman’s march and said she suffered her whole life in this racist country she actually said that she suffered her whole life while being on a hit tv show and before that show she was on another sitcom that ran for eight years and when she won an Emmy for the show Blackish she thanked her parents her dad a rich white record producer and her mom Diana Ross she was born with more privilege than anyone I’ve ever met
Besides maybe Denzel I feel like I’ve heard them all do this. Same with the lead actor from “Get out” Said the same type of shit to a reporter/journalist, come to find out that MF has been a working actor since 14 yrs old...Pathetic haha.
I mean, the plantation owner that enslaved Diana Ross used to give her one entire day off, every single month, so she could work on her music. So it wasn't nearly as bad as that lady is making it seem.
I recently started watching Star Trek: Deep Space Nine where they chose a black captain for the show in the early 90s. They hardly bring up racism in it. If that were made today, every episode would be about racism.
80's and 90's media did a better job of normalizing interracial unity by just showing people of different races getting along and interacting with each other like it's a normal thing and portrayed them all as equals instead of constantly bringing focus to it for the purpose of jerking themselves off about how tolerant they are
I just went to the movies the other day and every single movie they were previewing before the main showing was based on black pride v.s white guilt as a good versus evil plotline. Every single movie back-to-back. It was insane lol
As a black conservative from northern Illinois, a place drenched with these fuckin unbelievable people Lord Gillis spoke of, it feels good to be a shaman ranked dawg brothers!
Blackish did have a pretty funny bit where they sit down with the grandma after she says she only voted Democratic. They do like a quiz and each answer is super republican
I like watching Tv and every black commercial or show black people are portrayed in a certain manner and then I turn over to the local afternoon news here in memphis and I’m like , whoa they almost fooled me haha
I was at my da's house recently and he pointed out that all the commercials for this channel All Black TV (already a wild ass name imo) have the air of "kids pretending they have jobs" and it was simultaneously the most insightful, racist, and hilarious thing I've heard in years. I was so proud
Ireland was a net exporter of food during the potato famine, half of the entire military force of the entire british empire was stationed in ireland during that time to facilitate the export while the population starved to death. The famine was not because the irish were too stupid to eat anything but potatoes, but because the british only allowed the irish to keep their potato crop while everything else was sent to britain.
@@colinwood7164 Ireland parallels with Ukraine quite well. Ireland was the bread basket for lots of resources for the empire. From lumber to food to iron. No forests left in Ireland, either.
Just as funny as blacks starving to death for killing off white farmers. Actually thats not as funny because the english stole all the crops from the irish.
They were essentially indentured servants to the crown, 250 years into British occupation, tenant farmers living in shacks (with pigs), subsisting on meager meager margins from a potato crop which essentially only fed their families and barely enough left over for planting the next season. The "bight" or whatever, which destroyed most of the crops on the island, gently pushed 95% of the Irish population over the brink and into extreme, destitute poverty and starvation. The ones that survived had their genes mutated and irrevocably damaged in the process, marking an entire race of people damaged, and the British just stood and watched while the masses died in the fields, the women wailing in desperation and the men silently standing by, helpless. There are stories of shops in villages displaying lavish cakes and sweets, desserts and pies in the windows for the people, who were dying of starvation, to see as they walked by. The penalty for stealing from any of the Crowns stores or stockpiles was, often death. The workhouses were filled with dying men and the lucky ones were able to buy passage or stowaway on ships to America. A lot died in their shacks and many more starved out in in the street and the alleyways, wearing rags and laying their cold lifeless bodies on the cobblestone. Children dead in the street, apparently the British soldiers were brought to tears by the sight of it all but they were strictly forbidden from interfering. Of course British Lords in Dublin and across the channel did not see a single moment of this, off in their castles and collecting profits from who knows what economic endeavors, unaffected by the stories that came through from across over on the Island. Now, many of us are in America, cut off from that place, but believe me, there is UNMISTAKABLE vestiges running through our blood, infecting our genes, destroying us slowly still, mental health, families ruined, various pathologies, not to mention the alcoholism. I wish I was not an Irish American and I hope in the next lifetime I can be something else. The weight of it is heavy and its not a lot of fun.
I think the issue is the constant need to separate black history from American history. Black history is American History and once you start researching it as such, it’s a lot less victimizing.
@@nimbletimplekins7601okay? What does that have to do with anything when we’re talking about overall American history. we’re not comparing atrocities 💀🤦🏽
Odd contradiction, don't you think? Since when do kangz ever build anything for themselves? Kangz from all kangdoms had their slaves build shit for them
It's actually hilarious how these people, that supposedly understand so much about slavery, have no idea how small the population of slave owners was. They act like every single citizen was in on this.
Or how little they know about how prevalent slavery was among natives. Or who enslaved the Africans in the first place. Or who owned the slave ships...
But out of the 30 something million people in the US in 1860 about 3 million were slaves then when they were emancipated sharecropping and Jim Crow set the population back just as they were getting started
/compares a civil class of people who couldn’t negotiate higher wages until the fed stepped in in the 30s to an enslaved work force “This is so intelligent and nuanced! It’s almost like the Irish didn’t have a choice to go to America, pick their jobs and willingly immigrated. Woe is me!”
@@robertphillips4782 Irish weren't getting lynched either and they could attend well funded schools, the list goes on.. The fact that people think Shane is smart shows the Level of intelligence of his fanbase. He has wit and creativity and I'd say above average intelligence but hes definitely not what I'd call "smart"
It needs to be said, that there is a massive difference between building physical structures, and conceptualizing, strategizing, executing and managing entire bedrock industries, institutions and businesses.
@@brencelt carpentry, masonry, glazing, even excavation are all skilled trades. The capitol and every other building were built by skilled tradesmen, who were all anglo-Saxon and other Western European peoples. Slaves may have been used for site clearing and material disposal, but that’s it
Grownish is pretty good and wholesome for a YA college show. Anything else with Kenya Barris name on it tho is absolute hot ass. He’s a race merchant of the highest order
Literally I was thinking the same thing verbatim.. I mean which shows w a woman lead(especially the forced black lady ones that ppl make to virtue signal to the black community) anyway yeah anyone associated w shows like this are the ground zero for the destruction of Hollywood the past 7 years and don’t expect it to get better it’s only worse from here on out
you know what really upsets me about this? i dont mind black protagonists. i personally think that django was one of the best movies ever. it was dope af. i hate that theyre politicizing and entire race of human beings with feelings and emotions just for votes from caucasian female identifying individuals of this country. i think its insulting to parade a race around just for good boy points and make believe internet points. and fuck reddit
Yeah the point Shane is trying to make at 3:50 is what makes these conversations so difficult too. Plenty of people are trying to be understanding and learn about history race, class, etc. But so often the conversation is paralyzed by an insecure white woman with dyed hair shouting. It shouldn't be about a black monopoly of victimhood. Plenty of narratives throughout history can be true. You just gotta set aside your ego and give people room to get their hands around it on their own.
You reminded me about Empire of Dust, a documentary about a Chinese logistics guy trying to build a road in Congo. He spends a lot of the time berating the Africans for being left this beautiful railroad by the Belgian colonists and letting it turn to rust through corruption and laziness.
What makes me especially angry about people who think there needs to be some sort of guilt or reparations paid because of slavery is the fact that a great majority of white Americans ancestors weren’t even living in the United States at the time of slavery. Just cause someone is white doesn’t mean their ancestors came over on the mayflower
There were plenty of well renowned artisans and tradesmen that were slaves. It’s actually a really interesting topic, I remember hearing about a guy who was like a masterful furniture and made his master tons of money on commissioned work. Sure many slavemasters were outright sadists but at the end of the day the point was to exploit the labor of others for money
Are you saying you think that because it was illegal to educate slaves that slaves never learned anything? Come on dude, I don't believe you're that naive.
Shane should check out history on fire about crazy horse. The host is like shane in that he doesnt like super romanticized history. Crazy horse was a pretty legit legend, because they kept the legend on the rails.
Literally every culture, every city, every kingdom held slaves. Universally. Every ethnicity has been enslaved at one point or another, and every ethnicity held slaves at one point or another. Black African slaves were sold by other black Africans. Europeans didn’t go into the bush and kidnap people, that didn’t happen.
@@roycedot obv I meant major city in the ancient & pre-modern world. yes. Before 1800, there was no culture worldwide that hadn’t participated in slavery. It was a human universal until the abolitionist movement, spearheaded by William wilberforce in the west as a late byproduct of the Protestant reformation.
Homie…wtf are you trying to prove!!! Lmfao 🤣 💀 it’s a comedy podcast stop trying to flex with knowledge (that I don’t even know is true) it’s very gay.
If manual labor lets ppl take credit for building something then ive built just as much as any slave. Schools, houses, water treatment plants, and pump stations. Someone with degrees in engineering did all the planning, ate the upfront cost, and provided me with the tools, but im gonna take all the credit cuz i hammered some nails and tightened some bolts smh. Hell, any guy who ever worked in his car gets credit for modern transportation right?
I think Matt’s observation on black Americans having low self esteem from slavery is spot on. I’m 1/2 black (non American) and my AA co-worker was going on about slavery. I had pointed out to her that every culture had slaves. I used three mongol empire as an example. They took everyone in their path from the Arabs to Chinese to Europeans
He almost had a point and then fluffed it. There were studies done on self esteem in school children and the Afro-American kids uniformly game at the top of the table nationally.
Being responsible for site clearing and then claiming that you “built” the finished product is like being a bat boy and claiming that you won the World Series.
I will continue to make the smug argument that the Irish and Italians had it just as bad. Only because people lose their shit and it’s too funny to watch them get mad at this point.
It's because you are wrong. The Irish and Italians were treated like 2nd class citizens. But they were not slaves. Slaves had no rights and were not protected under the constitution. You think you look smug. But you really look like an idiot.
Exactly. Love Shane on the pod a lot, but making it a lot about the Irish because he is feels like a bit of the same thing he’s accusing others of. It’s all about just uncomfortable to see anyone get fired up about how people of their ethnicity were treated generations before them to an audience who had nothing to do with it lol
Dude Shane is the best interviewer ever. He's smart, funny, quick, surprisingly well read and most importantly knows when to ask questions and listen patiently to the answer.
I think this would be a wonderful opportunity to pause for a moment and give thanks for the great contributions of the Black community to our society. Their peaceful and generous nature make them ideal neighbors, lending testimony to their exceptional family values and parenting skills unrivaled by any other culture. Their commitment to academic excellence enriches our schools and serves as an example to all who hope to achieve prominence as a people. Real estate values are fueled by the mix of African Americans into an area due to their caring and respectful nature of these communities, an example of all they have achieved through their enthusiasm for self improvement by hard work and a self-reliant can-do nature. Without their industrious and creative drive, we would be poorer as a nation.
I grew up watching black sitcoms everyday. It’s frustrating to watch society say “there are no black role models.” What? My favorite people in history are black dudes that taught me life lessons through these damn stories.
Yeah man. It feels like Uncle Phil from Fresh Prince was everybody’s uncle in the 90s lol he was the ultimate black role model in entertainment back then.
they're like 90% right but dead wrong about christopher columbus lmao, everyone kinda universally was like "bro you did what?" he was chopping off kids hands and shit people thought he went too far at the time
It's really hard to say. It all happened 600 years ago with very little records. We do not know the context of any individual event and even if it happened at all. So I don't think we should idolize Columbus but I don't think we should demonize the man either. He earned his name in history because of his accomplishments, and we should just leave it at that.
I lived in Mechaincsburg in the neighborhood DIRECTLY across from Shane’s development from age 5 to 15 , 97-07. He’ll never be able to stop talking about race. I moved before it became my identity to be racist but that’s what Mechanicsburg is. It’s called “The white coast” a “sundown town”. There like 1 black kid per graduating class
If they built everything here, why didn't they have all of that stuff in Africa before they were brought here? We built it and sometimes got hired help from others.
Bruh europeans had enough time to live in europe long enough that their skin turned white, build cities and a powerful military, build ships to sail across the sea to africa and then steal some of them, bring them back, and then start a whole ass country. Africans still couldnt figure out basic democracy and irrigation 🤣
We taught each other a lot... people dont realize that europeans wernt cooking their food correctly or even bathing correctly. They learned alot from natives/africans. And Europeans taught them how to build. They also forced them to keep building 🤣
I’m over it, I think history needs to be taught, but I was taught it. Idk where they get that no one teaches slavery or native genocide we learned it in my country school. It’s so tiring to just feel bad all the time it’s so dumb
Black people did not build this country. At the peak of slavery in the US only 1.5% of Americans owned slaves, and slave owning was very expensive, meaning only the elite (like wealthy plantation owners) could afford to own them. Picking cotton is not building the country. In fact, that’s the main reason the south lost the civil war, because they were very dependent on an agrarian economic model where a small percent of Whites were rich enough to own slaves, while the majority of poor Whites had little employment opportunities due to slavery cornering the market on cheap labor. The north on the other hand was much wealthier and advanced because they wealth was more spread out, due to the competitive labor market and machinery.
Matt trying to defuse a future domestic argument is funny, talking about black people being forced to watch Shawn Hunter like there weren't any entirely black cast shows. Moesha, Sister Sister, Cosby, Family Matters, Martin, Fresh Prince, Keenan and Kel, My Brother and Me, Jamie Foxx Show, Waynes Bros, Parent Hood, Mr Cooper, a shit load more...
yeah he always seems to try to do that. definitely very liberal minded. I know there was another clip where he said 5 times in the span of 30 minutes that he has a black girlfriend so his mind is pretty fried
I used to work late every night. I’ve been mugged 3 times. Twice with a gun. Once with a sword to my neck… no joke. Guess who did every time? ? Kids under 15. Twice, I saw an adult drive them away. Guess what race they were? And if any of those kids wanted work permits and to work for me, I still would’ve given them jobs doing something. I had to work when I was young doing the worst shit. It was embarrassing. Nothing is ever said about how cultures causes certain groups to not want to work. Parents suck. Wait, forget what I just said. Let’s take away guns and give everybody 1 samurai sword. Gang battles would be so awesome.
He actually addresses it. He said “Yes but are you really being paid when you’re making $3 a day, but you owe the people that you’re working for, $4 a day?” And if you have no choice who your employer is, then you’re a slave.
@@Andrew-hk8qi this is literal insanity. Not only were servents paid a wage. Servents were not born into slavery. You want even more reasons, just ask bubba. It's early for me and I wasn't ready to see. Much lessrespond to this level of stupidity first thing in the morning.
@@Woogsie what you said had nothing to do with what I said. Irish workers were treated much worse than slaves. Slaves had value. Irish workers did not.
10:13 they didn’t get paid. They found a loophole around that through company towns and company stores. Nearly all coal and rail workers actually died in debt to the company, hence songs like “16 Tons”. Again, historical revisionism has hidden these facts.
@@Soundwave_King1 I don't know what textbook you have on hand, but regardless, it would be even more inaccurate to show ancient Egyptians looking like sub-saharan Africans.
@@Cash4gold84 15-20k were Chinese and they were primarily the ones setting the tnt, they had the most dangerous job and they were treated worse than the Irish
@ Slaves were just tools that were replaced by better tools. You are not a smart person. You saw the word "slave" and your brain immediately turned off and defaulted to your baseline programming. Look up what a thought terminating cliche is, it'll blow your mind.
3:32 I mean, yeah, it was as mean. There’s just been a massive deal of historical revisionism on those stories in recent times. I used to think it wasn’t as bad before I wrote a movie about Pennsylvania coal miners and did a really deep dive into the history surrounding it. Even freed slaves from plantations who went to work in coal mines later agreed that the mines were much much worse.
@@Blackdiamondprod. comparing unforced, paid labor of free men to LITERAL SLAVERY, and determining that the paid labor was “meaner” is wild. That’s my point
Look at all of those photos from the 1900's of people building sky scrapers. Not a single black person. Who designed all of these structures? Anyone can swing a hammer.
Irish prb don’t compare because the only thing separating them from just being white Americans is an accent. One generation and you can completely assimilate.
I’m white(obviously) although, the only person I really have in this world is my brother…who is mixed. So as far as anyone else is concerned, he’s black. Anyway, he means everything to me…and I would not wanna be here without him. Not that I’m suicidal or anything like that…my life is pretty sweet lol I just don’t have any interest in a world that he doesn’t exist in. All that being said, the white vs black thing is so exhausting…I’ve never really had to deal with a lot of the shit I see people talking about…like I said, the most important person in my life is half back…also, the first like 10 chicks I slept with were black(or mixed) I grew up listening to Aliyah, Usher, Nelly, Tupac, 50 Cent, etc…my best friends were/are black…and one Mexican😂😂 but I’ve never looked at it like…I’m into black chicks…or I like black music….or I prefer black people idk…there are just as many good and bad people in every race. Skin color is not relevant when it comes to knowing who is good…and who is bad…I do feel like people are almost trying to keep racism going. I know slavery was bad…but dude that shit ain’t got nothing to do with me…I’m sorry. It just doesn’t. I was just as broke as anybody growing up…hell, just a couple years ago I was living in my 800 dollar car that had no brakes…with my little brother. So even as an adult I haven’t noticed any benefit from this “white privilege” thing I’ve heard so much about😂😂 in fact, the cops were saying they had proof of me breaking and entering…or just straight up stealing from peoples cars…something like that. I’m not sure which one it was because I genuinely had no idea what they were talking about. I was too busy working my ass off at some awful factory job then sleeping in the driver seat of my car…with my seat all the way up because everything my brother and I owned was filling the trunk and entire backseat…it wasn’t much but it was enough to fill up that tiny little car…so if anything I got the exact opposite experience of this white privilege thing smh to be fair…I don’t really know any black people in the real world that pedal this bs, but I just seriously hope either side can just stop trying to separate people…in any/every way…we’re all just people. Why does it have to be more, or less…than that??? Besides, there are far too many pretty girls in any/every race for people to be racist😂😂
@@MrJvcksxn I forgot about it…but you must realize how girly it is to comment that you didn’t read something?😂😂 it just screams “give me attention” I see you…I promise lol I really don’t know what else you want me to say
Not to bring any knowledge or logic to this comedy podcast, but America was still an agrarian economy. Not much was built or developed. The industrial revolution came about with voluntary workers
“🎼 Wall St. We built it”😂😂 And now some black people are trying to lay claim to my Native American people, saying that the first Indians were Africans 😂😂 delusional. “ 🎼 America we were here first”
12:51 Another thing about Gandhi no one really talks about - he lived in South Africa for two decades before his involvement with Indian independence. His civil rights efforts while living there were trying to convince the white ruling minority that Indians should have more rights than black people
The light skinned lady from the show he was talking about made a speech at the woman’s march and said she suffered her whole life in this racist country she actually said that she suffered her whole life while being on a hit tv show and before that show she was on another sitcom that ran for eight years and when she won an Emmy for the show Blackish she thanked her parents her dad a rich white record producer and her mom Diana Ross she was born with more privilege than anyone I’ve ever met
That’s amazing, these people have 0 self awareness
Besides maybe Denzel I feel like I’ve heard them all do this. Same with the lead actor from “Get out” Said the same type of shit to a reporter/journalist, come to find out that MF has been a working actor since 14 yrs old...Pathetic haha.
A white producer or "white"?
@@giuseppebiundo6356 look at her face. A white man didn't give that bird beak.
She went to the most expensive Swiss boarding school in the world. Kim Jong Un fucking went there
The main characters mother is Diana Ross lol
She couldn’t have been raised any more privileged
I mean, the plantation owner that enslaved Diana Ross used to give her one entire day off, every single month, so she could work on her music. So it wasn't nearly as bad as that lady is making it seem.
I recently started watching Star Trek: Deep Space Nine where they chose a black captain for the show in the early 90s. They hardly bring up racism in it. If that were made today, every episode would be about racism.
80's and 90's media did a better job of normalizing interracial unity by just showing people of different races getting along and interacting with each other like it's a normal thing and portrayed them all as equals instead of constantly bringing focus to it for the purpose of jerking themselves off about how tolerant they are
There would be an episode where the startship gets pulled over by the space police and the black captain gets shot
@@jonstark7106 LOLOL
Well yea Roddenberry wrote a world in which we overcame racism. That’s why it’s not in it. And you’re right. Picard is rampant with racism.
We've taken a step backward.
I just went to the movies the other day and every single movie they were previewing before the main showing was based on black pride v.s white guilt as a good versus evil plotline. Every single movie back-to-back. It was insane lol
I'm so glad people are starting to see this. They've been doing this shit for years now, but at this point it's so incredibly obvious
i like laughing out loud at the sad parts
Women Kangggg!
because it exists. they are using it as a theme because that's how some peoples daily lives are.
@@al4385 Are you white or black? Or..chinese?
As a black conservative from northern Illinois, a place drenched with these fuckin unbelievable people Lord Gillis spoke of, it feels good to be a shaman ranked dawg brothers!
Damn northern Il? That’s rough
That's a mean thing to call the Irish
At least use quotes for “black conservative” dude😂😂
Blackish did have a pretty funny bit where they sit down with the grandma after she says she only voted Democratic. They do like a quiz and each answer is super republican
My dad is black and we did the same thing with grandpa like 8 years ago before he died and same thing happened 😂
Yea, clueless writers. Democrats created the kkk and opposed Lincoln at every turn
My grannies white as bread and she's the same way 😂 it's literally just "my daddy was a Democrat, so am I"
Black tv is so funny. Everyone is well dressed to the point of it being distracting.
And there’s always a loving doting father 😐
and they all act like suburban whites lol. shlomo writers are out of touch
@@johngoldsworthy7135 well they aren’t documentaries
@@k2769 that’s what rap music is for duh
@@k2769 GFY
I like watching Tv and every black commercial or show black people are portrayed in a certain manner and then I turn over to the local afternoon news here in memphis and I’m like , whoa they almost fooled me haha
Bill Cosby lol
Yea the classy well behaved black people they on tv are like .5% of them. Maybe less. In reality they act the exact opposite.
I was at my da's house recently and he pointed out that all the commercials for this channel All Black TV (already a wild ass name imo) have the air of "kids pretending they have jobs" and it was simultaneously the most insightful, racist, and hilarious thing I've heard in years. I was so proud
Both are small/manipulated windows into the reality of black folks. Get to know some and you’ll find your own truth
@@sayLeotardbutsayitChineseyour district attorney’s house? You guys hang out?
2/3rds of all Irish dying because they couldn’t eat potatoes for like 2 years is a pretty good bit tbh
The classic Irishman's dilemma, eat the potato now or let it ferment and drink it later.
Ireland was a net exporter of food during the potato famine, half of the entire military force of the entire british empire was stationed in ireland during that time to facilitate the export while the population starved to death. The famine was not because the irish were too stupid to eat anything but potatoes, but because the british only allowed the irish to keep their potato crop while everything else was sent to britain.
@@colinwood7164 Ireland parallels with Ukraine quite well. Ireland was the bread basket for lots of resources for the empire. From lumber to food to iron. No forests left in Ireland, either.
Just as funny as blacks starving to death for killing off white farmers. Actually thats not as funny because the english stole all the crops from the irish.
They were essentially indentured servants to the crown, 250 years into British occupation, tenant farmers living in shacks (with pigs), subsisting on meager meager margins from a potato crop which essentially only fed their families and barely enough left over for planting the next season. The "bight" or whatever, which destroyed most of the crops on the island, gently pushed 95% of the Irish population over the brink and into extreme, destitute poverty and starvation. The ones that survived had their genes mutated and irrevocably damaged in the process, marking an entire race of people damaged, and the British just stood and watched while the masses died in the fields, the women wailing in desperation and the men silently standing by, helpless. There are stories of shops in villages displaying lavish cakes and sweets, desserts and pies in the windows for the people, who were dying of starvation, to see as they walked by. The penalty for stealing from any of the Crowns stores or stockpiles was, often death. The workhouses were filled with dying men and the lucky ones were able to buy passage or stowaway on ships to America. A lot died in their shacks and many more starved out in in the street and the alleyways, wearing rags and laying their cold lifeless bodies on the cobblestone. Children dead in the street, apparently the British soldiers were brought to tears by the sight of it all but they were strictly forbidden from interfering. Of course British Lords in Dublin and across the channel did not see a single moment of this, off in their castles and collecting profits from who knows what economic endeavors, unaffected by the stories that came through from across over on the Island. Now, many of us are in America, cut off from that place, but believe me, there is UNMISTAKABLE vestiges running through our blood, infecting our genes, destroying us slowly still, mental health, families ruined, various pathologies, not to mention the alcoholism. I wish I was not an Irish American and I hope in the next lifetime I can be something else. The weight of it is heavy and its not a lot of fun.
I think the issue is the constant need to separate black history from American history. Black history is American History and once you start researching it as such, it’s a lot less victimizing.
Nailed it.
Separate/segregate.
There’s a fucking point in here somewhere…
Also black people didn't build the railroads, Chinese people did, the largest lynching in history was of Chinese railroad workers
Also also the first slaves brought over to the colonies were Irish
@@nimbletimplekins7601okay? What does that have to do with anything when we’re talking about overall American history. we’re not comparing atrocities 💀🤦🏽
"We invented errrthang!"
Odd contradiction, don't you think? Since when do kangz ever build anything for themselves? Kangz from all kangdoms had their slaves build shit for them
It's actually hilarious how these people, that supposedly understand so much about slavery, have no idea how small the population of slave owners was.
They act like every single citizen was in on this.
Peter Griffin I told you!
DONT look up the names of the captains and charter companies who dealt in the western slave trade!
red flag
Or how little they know about how prevalent slavery was among natives. Or who enslaved the Africans in the first place. Or who owned the slave ships...
But out of the 30 something million people in the US in 1860 about 3 million were slaves then when they were emancipated sharecropping and Jim Crow set the population back just as they were getting started
It just goes to show how these people get their history from pop-culture.
I hate that Shane is legitimately both smart and thoughtful
And gay
/compares a civil class of people who couldn’t negotiate higher wages until the fed stepped in in the 30s to an enslaved work force
“This is so intelligent and nuanced! It’s almost like the Irish didn’t have a choice to go to America, pick their jobs and willingly immigrated. Woe is me!”
@@roughpatches And a fag
@@robertphillips4782 Irish weren't getting lynched either and they could attend well funded schools, the list goes on..
The fact that people think Shane is smart shows the Level of intelligence of his fanbase.
He has wit and creativity and I'd say above average intelligence but hes definitely not what I'd call "smart"
@@yehheapsmadaybut because you’re such a smart cookie…get over yourself
It needs to be said, that there is a massive difference between building physical structures, and conceptualizing, strategizing, executing and managing entire bedrock industries, institutions and businesses.
and the actual building wasn't done by anyone not European, let alone the design and creative spark. Labourers are not builders,soz
@@brencelt carpentry, masonry, glazing, even excavation are all skilled trades. The capitol and every other building were built by skilled tradesmen, who were all anglo-Saxon and other Western European peoples. Slaves may have been used for site clearing and material disposal, but that’s it
Also that "picking cotton" and "building buildings" are not the same thing
...or doing the most basic manual work on those construction projects
Never watched Black-ish but not surprised that it's cringe.
Grownish is pretty good and wholesome for a YA college show. Anything else with Kenya Barris name on it tho is absolute hot ass. He’s a race merchant of the highest order
Literally I was thinking the same thing verbatim.. I mean which shows w a woman lead(especially the forced black lady ones that ppl make to virtue signal to the black community) anyway yeah anyone associated w shows like this are the ground zero for the destruction of Hollywood the past 7 years and don’t expect it to get better it’s only worse from here on out
@@iHappyVideo 7 years? Pretty sure it's more like 20
you know what really upsets me about this? i dont mind black protagonists. i personally think that django was one of the best movies ever. it was dope af. i hate that theyre politicizing and entire race of human beings with feelings and emotions just for votes from caucasian female identifying individuals of this country. i think its insulting to parade a race around just for good boy points and make believe internet points. and fuck reddit
Yeah the point Shane is trying to make at 3:50 is what makes these conversations so difficult too. Plenty of people are trying to be understanding and learn about history race, class, etc. But so often the conversation is paralyzed by an insecure white woman with dyed hair shouting. It shouldn't be about a black monopoly of victimhood. Plenty of narratives throughout history can be true. You just gotta set aside your ego and give people room to get their hands around it on their own.
Based fuck Reddit
"you know what really upsets me about this? i dont mind black protagonists." thats funny out of context
What other non-enslaved black protagonists do you like?
@@tds7078 I think of the holocaust, slavery can fuck its own face. blacks and whites are the same, anyone with a gun will tell you where yo go, bro
It always amazes me how many Americans don't understand how many other countries and other races have history of slavery.
Public education here really sucks.
The difference is we didn't kill or castrate all our slaves, like other countries did. Now they live here and won't ever stop bitching.
Chinese housekeepers in India are most definitely slaves. Libya has some crazy slavery going on after Kilary had Khaddafi butt stabbed.
We understand ..our media and politicians just like to remind us all the time about it for some reason lol🤔
Or that there are more slaves today than at any other point in history.
The Chinese and the Irish built the railroads.
Why don't they get sitcoms?
A lot of Chinese died building America
@@some-repliesfresh of the boat
They dug out railways that were already there
@@benjaminkell3726name 4 more
You reminded me about Empire of Dust, a documentary about a Chinese logistics guy trying to build a road in Congo. He spends a lot of the time berating the Africans for being left this beautiful railroad by the Belgian colonists and letting it turn to rust through corruption and laziness.
What makes me especially angry about people who think there needs to be some sort of guilt or reparations paid because of slavery is the fact that a great majority of white Americans ancestors weren’t even living in the United States at the time of slavery.
Just cause someone is white doesn’t mean their ancestors came over on the mayflower
This isn't a good argument. The country owes black people. Not white people
It makes you angry?
And even if they did.
@@SuperTed.Yes
And also how much is enough? Do you want all my fucking money? Poor on the street and let you have my house
"He was hungry, dude. He was delirious "
“Trying to link the tribes” 🤣🤣🤣
It was illegal to educate slaves but they understood the finer points of architecture and engineering right?
There were plenty of well renowned artisans and tradesmen that were slaves. It’s actually a really interesting topic, I remember hearing about a guy who was like a masterful furniture and made his master tons of money on commissioned work. Sure many slavemasters were outright sadists but at the end of the day the point was to exploit the labor of others for money
Are you saying you think that because it was illegal to educate slaves that slaves never learned anything? Come on dude, I don't believe you're that naive.
Especially considering they never made it past mud huts in the motherland.
Hey long boat ride from Africa. I'm sure they could've made some time to learn something useful.
It’s a way for rich people to claim victimhood, and ignore current injustice of current poor people
So basically Donald trump
Anthony Anderson just got WORKED by his ex wife’s lawyers.
So I guess that makes him HER ancestor’s wildest dreams.
Hahahahahahs that's amazing
Shane should check out history on fire about crazy horse. The host is like shane in that he doesnt like super romanticized history. Crazy horse was a pretty legit legend, because they kept the legend on the rails.
History on fire awesome
That’s my relative.
@@theabstracthour178 your the crazy dawg
What does the last sentence mean
@@theabstracthour178 that's my uncle
It’s hard to care about history and interact with popular culture. Popular culture makes sausage out of history, it doesn’t care about being precise.
Literally every culture, every city, every kingdom held slaves. Universally. Every ethnicity has been enslaved at one point or another, and every ethnicity held slaves at one point or another. Black African slaves were sold by other black Africans. Europeans didn’t go into the bush and kidnap people, that didn’t happen.
"Literally" ... definitely not every city
What enables you to make that claim? Have you read the history of every culture ya dumbdumb?
@@roycedot obv I meant major city in the ancient & pre-modern world. yes. Before 1800, there was no culture worldwide that hadn’t participated in slavery. It was a human universal until the abolitionist movement, spearheaded by William wilberforce in the west as a late byproduct of the Protestant reformation.
Homie…wtf are you trying to prove!!! Lmfao 🤣 💀 it’s a comedy podcast stop trying to flex with knowledge (that I don’t even know is true) it’s very gay.
Slavery and prostitution are human civilization's oldest trades
If manual labor lets ppl take credit for building something then ive built just as much as any slave. Schools, houses, water treatment plants, and pump stations. Someone with degrees in engineering did all the planning, ate the upfront cost, and provided me with the tools, but im gonna take all the credit cuz i hammered some nails and tightened some bolts smh. Hell, any guy who ever worked in his car gets credit for modern transportation right?
I love the "we built this country" thing like bro your ancestors were picking cotton not building factory's and city's
Lol easy
Not gonna trust them with all this fancy machinery
there is an argument to be made about funding all of those projects
Why is there cotton in pill bottles??
@@pestydesperado8771 no there’s actually not
I think Matt’s observation on black Americans having low self esteem from slavery is spot on. I’m 1/2 black (non American) and my AA co-worker was going on about slavery. I had pointed out to her that every culture had slaves. I used three mongol empire as an example. They took everyone in their path from the Arabs to Chinese to Europeans
He almost had a point and then fluffed it. There were studies done on self esteem in school children and the Afro-American kids uniformly game at the top of the table nationally.
Sitcoms are directed towards corny people. Of any race.
NPC’s if you will
@VISION PLUS DRIVE I wanted to say npc, but I wasn't sure if the majority of people would have gotten the reference.
We wuz kangz venting never gets old.
The Chinese built the railroads lmfao
The Chinese were high on opium they didn’t make it past the Rocky’s
True
@@Cash4gold84 ni you yi ge xiao ji ji
california isnt the entire country
All of them? Lmfao
Being responsible for site clearing and then claiming that you “built” the finished product is like being a bat boy and claiming that you won the World Series.
Yup, slavery was terrible. Nope, I have never owned slaves nor did you suffer it. The more millionaires sing about it, the less I care.
I will continue to make the smug argument that the Irish and Italians had it just as bad. Only because people lose their shit and it’s too funny to watch them get mad at this point.
🤣
Fight the good fight brother
It's because you are wrong. The Irish and Italians were treated like 2nd class citizens.
But they were not slaves. Slaves had no rights and were not protected under the constitution.
You think you look smug. But you really look like an idiot.
Any Italians or Irish get limbs chopped off or forced to stay on a farm and live in a barn? Wtf y’all be on
@@DaBro1102 yeah it’s called the mafia look it up it actually still exists
‘We wuz kangz’ the show
😂😂😂😂. So true. Black-ish is the store brand soda version of The Cosby Show.
welcome to the oppression olympics
Exactly. Love Shane on the pod a lot, but making it a lot about the Irish because he is feels like a bit of the same thing he’s accusing others of.
It’s all about just uncomfortable to see anyone get fired up about how people of their ethnicity were treated generations before them to an audience who had nothing to do with it lol
7:00 hahaha so good. like ya those people living in grass and mudd huts came over and built the white house interior and plumbing haha
"I think it was written by a jew, dude"
-Shane Gillis
there is a 0% chance a show called blackish is not in some way coordinated by jews
God is good
All the time
And all the time
God is good
All the time
God is great, who do we appreciate?
Dude Shane is the best interviewer ever. He's smart, funny, quick, surprisingly well read and most importantly knows when to ask questions and listen patiently to the answer.
This isn’t an interview but right on lol
I think this would be a wonderful opportunity to pause for a moment and give thanks for the great contributions of the Black community to our society. Their peaceful and generous nature make them ideal neighbors, lending testimony to their exceptional family values and parenting skills unrivaled by any other culture. Their commitment to academic excellence enriches our schools and serves as an example to all who hope to achieve prominence as a people. Real estate values are fueled by the mix of African Americans into an area due to their caring and respectful nature of these communities, an example of all they have achieved through their enthusiasm for self improvement by hard work and a self-reliant can-do nature. Without their industrious and creative drive, we would be poorer as a nation.
So true. Look at all of the predominantly white neighborhoods in America and how dangerous and poor they are.
😂😂😂
I feel Matt has no idea what he’s talking about half of the time and just agrees with whatever Shane says lol. Shane’s spittin facts tho
brackish
extra salty
Irish man starts noticing
😀
Thumbnails stay undefeated
Matt making his move on Yara Shahidi and Shane rubbing up on Tracee Ellis Ross thick ass
I grew up watching black sitcoms everyday. It’s frustrating to watch society say “there are no black role models.”
What? My favorite people in history are black dudes that taught me life lessons through these damn stories.
Carl Winslow.
Uncle Phil
Cosby....
@joseureste8257 yee, shoutout to uncle Phil. That guy fucking rocks, dude.
Yeah man. It feels like Uncle Phil from Fresh Prince was everybody’s uncle in the 90s lol he was the ultimate black role model in entertainment back then.
"ignition is better then freeing india" truer words have'nt been spoken on this podcast
I've had a lot of bad experiences with those people
Never relax around ______
Am I allowed to say hell yeah dude and call myself gay in here?
never stop doing both of them
I’m Robocop Batman Showgirls and uhhh…I’m gay
hell yeah dude
Cumtowns allowed in here. Hell yeah dude
Gay
This fool did not say, “You know running a plantation was stressful too” I’m dead 😂 he’s wild for that one
The lady standing under the 'K' has 'about to throw a dish across the room' eyes
Put your genitals in a garbage disposal eyes.
Yeah, Tracie Ellis Ross does have mentally ill eyes. She looks like the type of person who cannot function without her pills to control her psychosis.
The song was by The Roots.
they're like 90% right but dead wrong about christopher columbus lmao, everyone kinda universally was like "bro you did what?" he was chopping off kids hands and shit people thought he went too far at the time
He had a lot of rivals in Spain who shit talked him too so I'm not sure how much of that is true.
It's really hard to say. It all happened 600 years ago with very little records. We do not know the context of any individual event and even if it happened at all. So I don't think we should idolize Columbus but I don't think we should demonize the man either. He earned his name in history because of his accomplishments, and we should just leave it at that.
100%. There is literal contemporaneous evidence pointing to this.
@sfbenji have you researched this ever, even for 5 minutes?
When I get some dirt on my face: blackface-ish
Shoutout billy shoutout spud. BIG UPS PEEPOP
I lived in Mechaincsburg in the neighborhood DIRECTLY across from Shane’s development from age 5 to 15 , 97-07. He’ll never be able to stop talking about race. I moved before it became my identity to be racist but that’s what Mechanicsburg is. It’s called “The white coast” a “sundown town”. There like 1 black kid per graduating class
Thanks for the old testament knowledge Peepop🙏
Wack-Ish
If they built everything here, why didn't they have all of that stuff in Africa before they were brought here? We built it and sometimes got hired help from others.
It’s Marxism. Same 3tard logic you see people posting how if you stock a shelf then you own Amazon.
Bruh europeans had enough time to live in europe long enough that their skin turned white, build cities and a powerful military, build ships to sail across the sea to africa and then steal some of them, bring them back, and then start a whole ass country.
Africans still couldnt figure out basic democracy and irrigation 🤣
We taught each other a lot... people dont realize that europeans wernt cooking their food correctly or even bathing correctly. They learned alot from natives/africans. And Europeans taught them how to build. They also forced them to keep building 🤣
Because they built nothing here haha...Propaganda is a MF and we were all lied to as kids.
@@j.r09160 Dey Dont season dey foooood! We taught dem to ShowAaaaa lmao. You really gunna go w that? 😂
4:20 the Japanese built the railroads before being deported btw
“Dramatatize it” lol oh Matt
That's tight.
I’m over it, I think history needs to be taught, but I was taught it. Idk where they get that no one teaches slavery or native genocide we learned it in my country school. It’s so tiring to just feel bad all the time it’s so dumb
Black people did not build this country. At the peak of slavery in the US only 1.5% of Americans owned slaves, and slave owning was very expensive, meaning only the elite (like wealthy plantation owners) could afford to own them. Picking cotton is not building the country. In fact, that’s the main reason the south lost the civil war, because they were very dependent on an agrarian economic model where a small percent of Whites were rich enough to own slaves, while the majority of poor Whites had little employment opportunities due to slavery cornering the market on cheap labor. The north on the other hand was much wealthier and advanced because they wealth was more spread out, due to the competitive labor market and machinery.
“Plus they got paid” got me😂
I am my ancestors’ mediocre aspirations
“🎵The trump wall we built it🎶” will be ringing in my head for days now.
Matt trying to defuse a future domestic argument is funny, talking about black people being forced to watch Shawn Hunter like there weren't any entirely black cast shows. Moesha, Sister Sister, Cosby, Family Matters, Martin, Fresh Prince, Keenan and Kel, My Brother and Me, Jamie Foxx Show, Waynes Bros, Parent Hood, Mr Cooper, a shit load more...
yeah he always seems to try to do that. definitely very liberal minded. I know there was another clip where he said 5 times in the span of 30 minutes that he has a black girlfriend so his mind is pretty fried
bernie mac show too
People treat Roots like it was a documentary..
I used to work late every night. I’ve been mugged 3 times. Twice with a gun. Once with a sword to my neck… no joke. Guess who did every time? ? Kids under 15. Twice, I saw an adult drive them away. Guess what race they were? And if any of those kids wanted work permits and to work for me, I still would’ve given them jobs doing something. I had to work when I was young doing the worst shit. It was embarrassing. Nothing is ever said about how cultures causes certain groups to not want to work. Parents suck.
Wait, forget what I just said. Let’s take away guns and give everybody 1 samurai sword. Gang battles would be so awesome.
England already did that… spoiler gangurai battle videos are as sick as you think
not cultural difference. biological difference. we are not the same, and never will be.
@@peanutarbuckle2980 eugenics is just as scientific a field as astrology, don’t let girl brain take over
Boohoo just stand your ground
@@peanutarbuckle2980 yo chill. Fk is wrong with you dawg?
“No they didntttttt” had me howling
neither did "our Hebrew brothers" build the pyramids. lol. Bible doesn't say that.
The thumbnails are so good I can’t listen to a whole video.
Ur the man peepop
Good thing we had a bunch of highly skilled architect slaves
I didn’t even know people still watch regular tv.
fun fact about Gandhi: he essentially appealed to the Brits saying they were the same race and should be tag-teaming the darker folk together
It ain’t easy being green
Shane gillis knows the right thing to say publicly/socially acceptable while he says his true opinion on his podcast. thats great
Funny how Matt keeps having to add "but they got paid." because Shane completely misses that point.
He actually addresses it. He said
“Yes but are you really being paid when you’re making $3 a day, but you owe the people that you’re working for, $4 a day?”
And if you have no choice who your employer is, then you’re a slave.
@@Augusto_Pinochet that would be more like an endentured servent than a slave.
@@Woogsiendentured servants were treated worse than slaves. Slaves were extremely expensive. No one lost anything if a paddy died or broke his back.
@@Andrew-hk8qi this is literal insanity. Not only were servents paid a wage. Servents were not born into slavery. You want even more reasons, just ask bubba. It's early for me and I wasn't ready to see. Much lessrespond to this level of stupidity first thing in the morning.
@@Woogsie what you said had nothing to do with what I said. Irish workers were treated much worse than slaves. Slaves had value. Irish workers did not.
10:13 they didn’t get paid. They found a loophole around that through company towns and company stores. Nearly all coal and rail workers actually died in debt to the company, hence songs like “16 Tons”. Again, historical revisionism has hidden these facts.
History is blackwashed.
If u open up a textbook right now to an Egyptianlesson it shows a white man in Egyptian garb lol
@@Soundwave_King1 I don't know what textbook you have on hand, but regardless, it would be even more inaccurate to show ancient Egyptians looking like sub-saharan Africans.
@@Soundwave_King1 wtf no they don’t, they look Egyptian.
The thumbnail got me lmao
I thought the Chinese were the majority of people working on the railroads
You thought wrong then
@@Cash4gold84 15-20k were Chinese and they were primarily the ones setting the tnt, they had the most dangerous job and they were treated worse than the Irish
We waz Changz
Blackie Chans
"Father of Montana" ahahahah
If slaves built everything doesn't that just mean slave owners actually built everything by proxy?
Tf
@@francisonyekwereuzo1232Did a wrench fix your car or did a mechanic?
@@actualturtle2421a wrench is an object and a slave is a person they are completely different that is a dumb analogy
@ Slaves were just tools that were replaced by better tools. You are not a smart person. You saw the word "slave" and your brain immediately turned off and defaulted to your baseline programming. Look up what a thought terminating cliche is, it'll blow your mind.
Old Testament mssp is so funny
3:32 I mean, yeah, it was as mean. There’s just been a massive deal of historical revisionism on those stories in recent times. I used to think it wasn’t as bad before I wrote a movie about Pennsylvania coal miners and did a really deep dive into the history surrounding it. Even freed slaves from plantations who went to work in coal mines later agreed that the mines were much much worse.
Yeah and it sucks that those people were forced to do unpaid labor in the mines… oh wait
@ what point do you think you made?
@@Blackdiamondprod. comparing unforced, paid labor of free men to LITERAL SLAVERY, and determining that the paid labor was “meaner” is wild. That’s my point
@ I’m not doing that. I’m talking about forced, unpaid labor.
"dude go memorize some fuckin shit and regurgitate it, you're not really in this business for your original thought"
Look at all of those photos from the 1900's of people building sky scrapers. Not a single black person. Who designed all of these structures? Anyone can swing a hammer.
No... have you ever worked with the 20 somethings in construction?... not everyone can swing a hammer... not even close big dog
At least we ALL still dislike the Chinese. And they put mad work in on the RR😊
Blaxploitation is back baby!! Count them shekels!
Irish prb don’t compare because the only thing separating them from just being white Americans is an accent. One generation and you can completely assimilate.
I’m white(obviously) although, the only person I really have in this world is my brother…who is mixed. So as far as anyone else is concerned, he’s black. Anyway, he means everything to me…and I would not wanna be here without him. Not that I’m suicidal or anything like that…my life is pretty sweet lol I just don’t have any interest in a world that he doesn’t exist in. All that being said, the white vs black thing is so exhausting…I’ve never really had to deal with a lot of the shit I see people talking about…like I said, the most important person in my life is half back…also, the first like 10 chicks I slept with were black(or mixed) I grew up listening to Aliyah, Usher, Nelly, Tupac, 50 Cent, etc…my best friends were/are black…and one Mexican😂😂 but I’ve never looked at it like…I’m into black chicks…or I like black music….or I prefer black people idk…there are just as many good and bad people in every race. Skin color is not relevant when it comes to knowing who is good…and who is bad…I do feel like people are almost trying to keep racism going. I know slavery was bad…but dude that shit ain’t got nothing to do with me…I’m sorry. It just doesn’t. I was just as broke as anybody growing up…hell, just a couple years ago I was living in my 800 dollar car that had no brakes…with my little brother. So even as an adult I haven’t noticed any benefit from this “white privilege” thing I’ve heard so much about😂😂 in fact, the cops were saying they had proof of me breaking and entering…or just straight up stealing from peoples cars…something like that. I’m not sure which one it was because I genuinely had no idea what they were talking about. I was too busy working my ass off at some awful factory job then sleeping in the driver seat of my car…with my seat all the way up because everything my brother and I owned was filling the trunk and entire backseat…it wasn’t much but it was enough to fill up that tiny little car…so if anything I got the exact opposite experience of this white privilege thing smh to be fair…I don’t really know any black people in the real world that pedal this bs, but I just seriously hope either side can just stop trying to separate people…in any/every way…we’re all just people. Why does it have to be more, or less…than that??? Besides, there are far too many pretty girls in any/every race for people to be racist😂😂
ain’t no way you think we reading all this brother
@@MrJvcksxn I forgot about it…but you must realize how girly it is to comment that you didn’t read something?😂😂 it just screams “give me attention” I see you…I promise lol I really don’t know what else you want me to say
@@jordancave3089 we want you to say less… a lot less
@@jordancave3089I'm going to wait for your comment to come out in paperback.
@@visionplusdrive and yet, here you are lol
Diana Ross daughter is on this show. She was more oppressed than anyone even more than slaves.
Not to bring any knowledge or logic to this comedy podcast, but America was still an agrarian economy. Not much was built or developed. The industrial revolution came about with voluntary workers
Peepop the thumbnail slayer!
“🎼 Wall St. We built it”😂😂
And now some black people are trying to lay claim to my Native American people, saying that the first Indians were Africans 😂😂 delusional.
“ 🎼 America we were here first”
They will be Mormon next that links the Hebrews and natives
12:51 Another thing about Gandhi no one really talks about - he lived in South Africa for two decades before his involvement with Indian independence. His civil rights efforts while living there were trying to convince the white ruling minority that Indians should have more rights than black people