Just once, one time in their lives, it would be nice for Tories to understand that if you eff around, you find out. This elite public school mafia has never, in centuries, had to face consequences for their actions, for their failures.
Yeah they lost the plot and thought they could just go full sped ahead with their ultimate agenda. Now they’re finding out we are a democracy after all and all the people that they’ve shafted, the vast majority, are about to call them out. Finally.
It's not the fault of the tories they get voted back in, it's the voters with goldfish memory's that never learn how full of crap they are and keep voting them in. Same applies to Farage, he can't help being a pub bore pound shop Oswald Mosely, it's just what he is, the Muppets that believe his shite are the problem.
The laughable part is that the Tories genuinely believe nobody else could do the job of opposition. Honestly completely blind to their repeated demonstration of utter incompetence and fundamental corruption.
Well said all round, but I must single out one line in particular: "There isn't a single aspect of life on these islands that the tories have not shat on." Nobody will ever put it better than that. I salute you sir.
"They don't need a period in opposition; what they need is a period of irrelevance." And that period of Tory irrelevance would also be good for Labour. Not simply because the party of opposition would not be coming from their right, but because as Keir Starmer attempts to drag his own party to the right he has to come face to face with that irrelevance and see it for his own future.
This. If rather then trying to keep the Tories and Tory voters happy, Labour has to keep the Greens, the Libs, PC and the SNP happy, that surely has to start dragging the Overton window back to the left, doesn't it?
Think about it for a second. If the Tories get destroyed that doesn’t mean that previous tory voters get destroyed too, so there would still be demand for a right wing party in later elections. The Overton window would indeed be moved left over time because the opposition (Lib Dems, say) would be entitled to more TV airtime, opposition questions at PMQs etc. However, if Labour instantly tacked left that would just leave a large space for a right wing party (Cons or, worse, Refuk) to win power in 2028. So while the Overton window would gradually, glacially shift left there will still be 2 parties that fight over that, albeit moving, centre ground.
Two seems the funnier number. I'd like to see exactly two Tories left, one swivel-eyed right-winger (take your choice) and one slightly-to-the-left of Starmer one (say, Simon Hoare), just so they can tell us one last time how their party is a 'broad church' before they barrel across the floor in a winner-takes-all rumble for ownership of oblivion.
That was a refreshing moment in this election. There is one concern and that is those Reform lot by some spilt voting flukes in a lot of constituents getting seats. No government should be in power for this long. They need reminding they are servants of the people we are not their subjects.
A good rant but 2 important points to add: FPTP is a flawed electoral system not fit for the 21st Century; gerrymandered constituencies that give the Tories an advantage of more "safe" seats. A new Labour government must not renege like Blair/Brown did and abandon electoral reform. Conservatives "the party of law & order" has made the police forces largely ineffective, clogged up the courts to the point of constipation and have the prison system overcrowded and with better access to illegal drugs than most people free to go about their daily life.
Much as there is an obvious flaw to FPTP what the last five years have proven is that it also has it's upsides over PR. A PR system puts all the power in the hands of the party machine. It will be parties we vote for and not MPs. Under PR there would have been no realistic way to remove BS Boris or Crazy Liz. Loss of the whip would effectively have to mean loss of seat. So it's not as strait forward an argument as it at first seems. I certainly think at least one of the houses of parliament should be FPTP, but then again I also think a seat in the lords should be for life as it further insulates it's members from the power of the parties.
Me too. I voted Lib/Lib Dem since the early 80's and have done exactly what you've done since 2010. Nothing worse than watching people like Sara Teather squirming, as she tried to defend things you know she didn't agree with. I'll do the same this Thursday. Fortunately, I live in a very close Tory/Labour marginal, so my git on an M.P. is toast! 😉😉
I'm voting Labour to keep the Lib Dems out in my constituency. I prefer several of Labour's manifesto pledges and the free tuition fees scandal and the selling of the post office will always stick in my throat, and when I see Lib Dems speak, they just don't seem trust worthy to me..
@@stonehengemacaThey aren’t. The betrayed and r***ed their supporters. Their complete capitulation wasn’t just shocking and awful it was a total generational betrayal.
This places a coherent explanation to an aspect of politics that has baffled me for my entire life (75 years) ~ that is: why the Tory party appears to have no other concern than to gain and sustain power at any cost to our nation and its people? WWII showed us and the rest of the world where pure right-wing politics will lead us; there was a subsequent swing to left-wing politics and the Tories realised that they had to behave themselves. But memories are short; despite the recent D-Day 'celebrations' in France, we seem to be marching inexorably towards a fascistic future ~ not lead by the Tories, but facilitated by the Tories' own incompetence and corruption.
Honestly I don't think Cameron promised a Brexit referendum to save the party. I think he promised it to save himself from his own membership. Let me re-fraise that. "His own membership" implies his problem is that he is a total member, which he is, but that wasn't his problem. His problem was the membership of the Tory party which had been slowly ageing to the right. I don't think we realised quite how much till they voted in Crazy Liz, but Cameron realised right back then that if he didn't at least pretend to be willing to let Brexit happen he would be out and would be replaced by somebody who wouldn't even bother with having a referendum. We only had that because Cameron thought we would bail him out. Now the Conservative party is on a one way train to the right and hopefully oblivion. It really will be no lose. Politics is already healing it's self. The Lib-dems are already sliding towards that Centre-right spot to fill in the gap. As you mentioned the left wing of the Lib-dems mostly ditched them when they teamed up with Cameron. the centre right wing of the party is most of what's left. It's the reset the Centre right needs because the Conservatives no longer can. Wave them goodbye, let them sink below the waves and down to the Deep deep blue.
True about Cameron, the referendum was to save his job. The pledge to have a referendum was on page 72 of a 73 page manifesto which really shows it was added as a sop to the far right. Promises that far down the manifesto are never implemented. He had already realligned the Euro Torys into a more right wing group because of his fear of UKIP. He had no balls to be PM,
Have read on Lib Dems twitter that Cameron will join the Lib Dems when the Tories bloodbath happens after the election. After what you read this will probably happen. There is a rumour that Truss will join Reform around the same time. Good that the Tories but Starmer NEEDS to be checked especially when he probably gets a MASSIVE majority.
This is what I've been hoping for, and for reasons you've put here better than I did. I'd have to add that there is a definite entertainment factor here - I do want to see several Tory MPs face the so-called 'Portillo moment'. Hunt? Truss? Mordaunt? Coffey? Shapps? Jack? Mercer? McVey?... Sunak?! They've all been predicted to lose, and here's hoping!
I'm a socialist at heart which means Labour and the Liberals are my go to but.. I've been listening to the people I work with and the people I socialize with and all they talk about is Reform. This scares the hell out of me. The poles say that Reform will reduce the Tory's seats in Parliament. I'm dreading the fact that they may end up as the opposition.
Not forgetting that demographics mean that a conservative majority becomes less likely with each year that passes. Which explains much of their desperation over the last couple of years. Roll on the Friday results.
The Pollical Wing of Status Quo? Why not, I've seen them live, and I can tell you they already have a paramilitary wing - its their sound system. That beast can take out a small housing estate at 30 Km.
While the term "super majority" is technically meaningless in a parliamentary democracy, the size of a majority does influence the behaviour of the party in power. The programs they implement and the policies they pursue are influenced by the size of their majority. And no matter how bad the traditional Tory party was its demise as a political force will be detrimental to democracy, it will lead to a strengthening of the hard right within conservative politics and the further destabilisation of the country. The rise of Reform over the Tories is the political equivalent of jumping from the frying pan into the fire. The Wiemar Republic was most definitely incompetent corrupt and useless but the Third Reich was evil
Absolutely everything I have ranted about most of my life. As you and I discussed into the night after one of Sue Lees birthday parties. Can we put this on TV ? (No I doubt it 😁)
All fair points but I want a large labour majority just so there's a chance of a few actually left wing politicians and, dare I hope it, policies sneaking through.
I know you know it happened, because you gave vent to your thoughts at the time, but to mention the EU Referendum and to forget about Cameron's triumphalist England Resurgent tone after the 2014 referendum misses a huge chunk of the picture at the time
Really please the algorithm sent me your way (it seems to be constantly trying to get me to watch Reform nonsense… Russian money much) for me a period of Labour with the Lib Dem’s/snp/greens would save us from all the entitled toffs spaffing money up the wall.
Personally I am not expecting too much from labour within the first few years. There are no quick fixes for the NHS, the economy, local government etc etc etc. labour are inheriting huge problems basically there are too many mice and too little cheese.
All well and good but whatever jubilation I may feel at the Tories getting annihilated is quickly going to be snuffed out when we realise Starmer simply offers more of the same. He's broken all the promises he made in order to get the leadership gig; he's presiding over the most factional and divisive iteration of Labour that there has ever been; what on earth makes anyone think he'll be better once he's in power?
Honestly, I don't think this election is about choosing between good and bad, I think it's about choosing between bad and worse. Labour's manifesto doesn't thrill me, but after the last 10 years I'll hold my nose and vote for them if that's what it takes to get the Tories out. And I think Mitch is right, if the Tories get hammered so hard that the 2nd largest party is to the left of Labour it will be a good thing for the Labour party too.
@@TheMolesRevenge Yes, we're not blessed with "Obviously Good" as an outcome option at this point. I am going to wait patiently for Labour to actively disappoint me once they get in, rather than getting glum about it just yet.
I think Labour will be more competent, at least at first. The chaos in the Tory ranks, and the ousting of those more able people who couldn't thole Boris, didn't help give good government!!! But, Labour is taking over at a time when no government could hope to get positive results quickly. So, people are likely to feel disappointed soon. That should enable the SNP to keep control of the Scottish devolved parliament - it's two years till that election.
England should vote Labour in crazy numbers but we🏴 need to do something different we need independence coz if you're right about anything here is that the bastard's will be back
You're not wrong but all politicians have the same problem for different reasons. Unless you believe theres something about you that means you deserve to be in charge you wouldn't attempt to become a politician in the first place. It doesn't really matter if you belive you know how to be in charge because you were raised inside of a group that that teaches their kids about political leadership or if you believe you should be in charge because of your moral views , or intelligence or whatever reason. Your justification will never be universally agreed upon. Our system generally tends towards the ruling party losing when it fails to satisfy its supporters almost entirely regardless of the opposition party. The only thing that keeps either party in for multiple terms is the opposition being so very bad in comparison that they are essentially unelectable to the majority. How no party has ever figured out how to keep up with the ever changing reasons for getting booted out of power without constantly changing its policies (which istself is a quick way to get the boot) is not a mystery.
Spot on analysis. I've been saying for years that this mess started with Cameron and now, you couldn't make it up he's unelected but back! Just one thing if we really want to humiliate the Tories we have to be preparred to vote tactically. You may be a staunch Labour supporter and alway voted that way in the past, but if the best chance of beating your Tory candidate is voting Lib Dem then please, please do it? I don't even care if that means voting Reform, (they will never get enough sears to matter). WHATEVER IT TAKES TO DESTROY, not just beat, THE CORRUPTION THAT IS THE TORY PARTY.
Cameron showed the arrogance of upper clarses when he called the Brexit referendum. He believed that we plebs would do as we were told and vote Remain. We finally had a chance to stick it to the man and we went for it.
If you think that FPTP is a ''not fit for purpose'' electoral system, then vote REFORM. Use that vote to vote FOR something rather than vote Against things.
Labour will win. Electoral reform is very badly needed. So from all sides there should be pressure put on Labour to scrap FPTP. Probably the only issue on which the Lib Dems. Reform and the SNP could cooperate🙂 And, enough Labour members back it too that it may really, finally come.
Why would anyone vote for climate change-denying, Andrew Tate-backing, Putin-supporting, NHS-hating, White Nationaists? Your company is literally against everything - human rights, foreigners, the envionment, foreigners, NATO, foreigners...
Two progressive parties, one in power one in opposition. Great.
Tories out by the bins? GREAT!!
Just once, one time in their lives, it would be nice for Tories to understand that if you eff around, you find out.
This elite public school mafia has never, in centuries, had to face consequences for their actions, for their failures.
Yes, that Oaf Johnson is sitting in his moated little mansion, bereft of shame, enjoying his well heeled lifestyle when he could easily be in jail.
Unlike the French nobility that did in fact "Find Out".
@@lawrencewild2523 could we see about that kind of justice here?
Yeah they lost the plot and thought they could just go full sped ahead with their ultimate agenda. Now they’re finding out we are a democracy after all and all the people that they’ve shafted, the vast majority, are about to call them out. Finally.
It's not the fault of the tories they get voted back in, it's the voters with goldfish memory's that never learn how full of crap they are and keep voting them in. Same applies to Farage, he can't help being a pub bore pound shop Oswald Mosely, it's just what he is, the Muppets that believe his shite are the problem.
The laughable part is that the Tories genuinely believe nobody else could do the job of opposition.
Honestly completely blind to their repeated demonstration of utter incompetence and fundamental corruption.
Oh they'll never lose the arrogance that says they are the ones that should naturally be in charge, they just consider how we vote a betrayal.
Congratulations. You've succinctly and entertainingly summed up Tory self-entitlement.
Well said all round, but I must single out one line in particular:
"There isn't a single aspect of life on these islands that the tories have not shat on."
Nobody will ever put it better than that. I salute you sir.
Well said Sir!
"They don't need a period in opposition; what they need is a period of irrelevance." And that period of Tory irrelevance would also be good for Labour. Not simply because the party of opposition would not be coming from their right, but because as Keir Starmer attempts to drag his own party to the right he has to come face to face with that irrelevance and see it for his own future.
This. If rather then trying to keep the Tories and Tory voters happy, Labour has to keep the Greens, the Libs, PC and the SNP happy, that surely has to start dragging the Overton window back to the left, doesn't it?
Think about it for a second. If the Tories get destroyed that doesn’t mean that previous tory voters get destroyed too, so there would still be demand for a right wing party in later elections. The Overton window would indeed be moved left over time because the opposition (Lib Dems, say) would be entitled to more TV airtime, opposition questions at PMQs etc. However, if Labour instantly tacked left that would just leave a large space for a right wing party (Cons or, worse, Refuk) to win power in 2028. So while the Overton window would gradually, glacially shift left there will still be 2 parties that fight over that, albeit moving, centre ground.
There were only two Canadian Conservatives left in 1993, not three
Two seems the funnier number. I'd like to see exactly two Tories left, one swivel-eyed right-winger (take your choice) and one slightly-to-the-left of Starmer one (say, Simon Hoare), just so they can tell us one last time how their party is a 'broad church' before they barrel across the floor in a winner-takes-all rumble for ownership of oblivion.
@@richardgale1287I'd like one of them to be wherever Alex Salmond is standing, specifically because he split the Anyone But Tory vote.
That was a refreshing moment in this election. There is one concern and that is those Reform lot by some spilt voting flukes in a lot of constituents getting seats. No government should be in power for this long. They need reminding they are servants of the people we are not their subjects.
A good rant but 2 important points to add: FPTP is a flawed electoral system not fit for the 21st Century; gerrymandered constituencies that give the Tories an advantage of more "safe" seats.
A new Labour government must not renege like Blair/Brown did and abandon electoral reform.
Conservatives "the party of law & order" has made the police forces largely ineffective, clogged up the courts to the point of constipation and have the prison system overcrowded and with better access to illegal drugs than most people free to go about their daily life.
Much as there is an obvious flaw to FPTP what the last five years have proven is that it also has it's upsides over PR. A PR system puts all the power in the hands of the party machine. It will be parties we vote for and not MPs. Under PR there would have been no realistic way to remove BS Boris or Crazy Liz. Loss of the whip would effectively have to mean loss of seat. So it's not as strait forward an argument as it at first seems. I certainly think at least one of the houses of parliament should be FPTP, but then again I also think a seat in the lords should be for life as it further insulates it's members from the power of the parties.
Me too. I voted Lib/Lib Dem since the early 80's and have done exactly what you've done since 2010. Nothing worse than watching people like Sara Teather squirming, as she tried to defend things you know she didn't agree with. I'll do the same this Thursday. Fortunately, I live in a very close Tory/Labour marginal, so my git on an M.P. is toast! 😉😉
I'm voting Labour to keep the Lib Dems out in my constituency. I prefer several of Labour's manifesto pledges and the free tuition fees scandal and the selling of the post office will always stick in my throat, and when I see Lib Dems speak, they just don't seem trust worthy to me..
@@stonehengemacaThey aren’t. The betrayed and r***ed their supporters. Their complete capitulation wasn’t just shocking and awful it was a total generational betrayal.
Damn it, Mitch - perfection! I am already looking forward to the pungent aroma of burnt Blue-coloured arse hair... Thank you! 🤓👍
This places a coherent explanation to an aspect of politics that has baffled me for my entire life (75 years) ~ that is: why the Tory party appears to have no other concern than to gain and sustain power at any cost to our nation and its people?
WWII showed us and the rest of the world where pure right-wing politics will lead us; there was a subsequent swing to left-wing politics and the Tories realised that they had to behave themselves.
But memories are short; despite the recent D-Day 'celebrations' in France, we seem to be marching inexorably towards a fascistic future ~ not lead by the Tories, but facilitated by the Tories' own incompetence and corruption.
100% agree with everything you have said.
Nailed it 😉
Good point, mate, the options must be Labour and LibDems/ Green in the near future.
I applaud your t-shirt and the Tie-Fighter framed on the wall. You're clearly a man of good taste.
Nailed it, Mitch.
Tories have certainly served themselves alright
Well said. I liked it.👍
Loved it. Thanks
Thank you too!
Bravo 👏
Very well said, here.
The misuse of the word "natural" is very well made ... and has been around since the eighteenth century- Hume and Smith both use this. Great video.
Just come across your channel. I agree with everything you said.
Thanks and welcome
So funny that when I look into Mitches eyes, I see David Cameron :) Love his rant though, an up tick for me.
Yup. No notes.
Fabulous diatribe, funny but true.
Honestly I don't think Cameron promised a Brexit referendum to save the party. I think he promised it to save himself from his own membership. Let me re-fraise that. "His own membership" implies his problem is that he is a total member, which he is, but that wasn't his problem. His problem was the membership of the Tory party which had been slowly ageing to the right. I don't think we realised quite how much till they voted in Crazy Liz, but Cameron realised right back then that if he didn't at least pretend to be willing to let Brexit happen he would be out and would be replaced by somebody who wouldn't even bother with having a referendum. We only had that because Cameron thought we would bail him out. Now the Conservative party is on a one way train to the right and hopefully oblivion. It really will be no lose. Politics is already healing it's self. The Lib-dems are already sliding towards that Centre-right spot to fill in the gap. As you mentioned the left wing of the Lib-dems mostly ditched them when they teamed up with Cameron. the centre right wing of the party is most of what's left. It's the reset the Centre right needs because the Conservatives no longer can. Wave them goodbye, let them sink below the waves and down to the Deep deep blue.
True about Cameron, the referendum was to save his job. The pledge to have a referendum was on page 72 of a 73 page manifesto which really shows it was added as a sop to the far right. Promises that far down the manifesto are never implemented. He had already realligned the Euro Torys into a more right wing group because of his fear of UKIP. He had no balls to be PM,
Have read on Lib Dems twitter that Cameron will join the Lib Dems when the Tories bloodbath happens after the election. After what you read this will probably happen. There is a rumour that Truss will join Reform around the same time. Good that the Tories but Starmer NEEDS to be checked especially when he probably gets a MASSIVE majority.
This is what I've been hoping for, and for reasons you've put here better than I did.
I'd have to add that there is a definite entertainment factor here - I do want to see several Tory MPs face the so-called 'Portillo moment'.
Hunt? Truss? Mordaunt? Coffey? Shapps? Jack? Mercer? McVey?... Sunak?!
They've all been predicted to lose, and here's hoping!
Gove and Zahawi have jumped before they can be pushed - they're not standing.
@@nigelharper7996 Ah, shame. Still their former constituencies are predicted to flip, which is good. I'll edit the above.
The most common sense I've heard in ages
I'm a socialist at heart which means Labour and the Liberals are my go to but.. I've been listening to the people I work with and the people I socialize with and all they talk about is Reform. This scares the hell out of me. The poles say that Reform will reduce the Tory's seats in Parliament. I'm dreading the fact that they may end up as the opposition.
Not forgetting that demographics mean that a conservative majority becomes less likely with each year that passes.
Which explains much of their desperation over the last couple of years. Roll on the Friday results.
Utter rubbish. There will always be Tory voters (unless Reform make serious inroads).
"for thoughts, there is Gin"
Excellent
I would 100% vote for the political wing of Status Quo.
'Whatever you want' well... we are 'Living on an Island' 😉
Given Rishi's plan to bring back National Service, we almost got 'You're in the Army Now'.
How's the economy doing? Down down.
As far as I am concerned Michael Gove is one of the stupidist politicans ever to hold a British ministry.
Truss..." Hold my Pimm's"
Not sure why anyone’s worried. If Keir Stalin gets in, the Tories will still be in charge…
You're not wrong. Simple as that.
The Pollical Wing of Status Quo? Why not, I've seen them live, and I can tell you they already have a paramilitary wing - its their sound system. That beast can take out a small housing estate at 30 Km.
While the term "super majority" is technically meaningless in a parliamentary democracy, the size of a majority does influence the behaviour of the party in power. The programs they implement and the policies they pursue are influenced by the size of their majority. And no matter how bad the traditional Tory party was its demise as a political force will be detrimental to democracy, it will lead to a strengthening of the hard right within conservative politics and the further destabilisation of the country. The rise of Reform over the Tories is the political equivalent of jumping from the frying pan into the fire. The Wiemar Republic was most definitely incompetent corrupt and useless but the Third Reich was evil
We went to the same school and I still recognise you, plus you can't miss the booming voice
You may not be able to miss the voice, but he does miss the hair.
Absolutely everything I have ranted about most of my life. As you and I discussed into the night after one of Sue Lees birthday parties. Can we put this on TV ? (No I doubt it 😁)
can I just say I've just been trying to rub that mark on your wall off MY screen (ok I have a grubby laptop screen but still......) ;-)
I’m so glad I’m not the only one😂
All fair points but I want a large labour majority just so there's a chance of a few actually left wing politicians and, dare I hope it, policies sneaking through.
Good luck with that with Sir Kid Starver at the helm...
Tories = NSDAP
👏👏👏👏
I know you know it happened, because you gave vent to your thoughts at the time, but to mention the EU Referendum and to forget about Cameron's triumphalist England Resurgent tone after the 2014 referendum misses a huge chunk of the picture at the time
Really please the algorithm sent me your way (it seems to be constantly trying to get me to watch Reform nonsense… Russian money much) for me a period of Labour with the Lib Dem’s/snp/greens would save us from all the entitled toffs spaffing money up the wall.
Personally I am not expecting too much from labour within the first few years. There are no quick fixes for the NHS, the economy, local government etc etc etc. labour are inheriting huge problems basically there are too many mice and too little cheese.
All well and good but whatever jubilation I may feel at the Tories getting annihilated is quickly going to be snuffed out when we realise Starmer simply offers more of the same. He's broken all the promises he made in order to get the leadership gig; he's presiding over the most factional and divisive iteration of Labour that there has ever been; what on earth makes anyone think he'll be better once he's in power?
Honestly, I don't think this election is about choosing between good and bad, I think it's about choosing between bad and worse. Labour's manifesto doesn't thrill me, but after the last 10 years I'll hold my nose and vote for them if that's what it takes to get the Tories out. And I think Mitch is right, if the Tories get hammered so hard that the 2nd largest party is to the left of Labour it will be a good thing for the Labour party too.
@@TheMolesRevenge Yes, we're not blessed with "Obviously Good" as an outcome option at this point. I am going to wait patiently for Labour to actively disappoint me once they get in, rather than getting glum about it just yet.
He may not behave any better once in power but will still be much better than any Tory.
I think Labour will be more competent, at least at first. The chaos in the Tory ranks, and the ousting of those more able people who couldn't thole Boris, didn't help give good government!!!
But, Labour is taking over at a time when no government could hope to get positive results quickly. So, people are likely to feel disappointed soon. That should enable the SNP to keep control of the Scottish devolved parliament - it's two years till that election.
England should vote Labour in crazy numbers but we🏴 need to do something different we need independence coz if you're right about anything here is that the bastard's will be back
You're not wrong but all politicians have the same problem for different reasons.
Unless you believe theres something about you that means you deserve to be in charge you wouldn't attempt to become a politician in the first place.
It doesn't really matter if you belive you know how to be in charge because you were raised inside of a group that that teaches their kids about political leadership or if you believe you should be in charge because of your moral views , or intelligence or whatever reason. Your justification will never be universally agreed upon.
Our system generally tends towards the ruling party losing when it fails to satisfy its supporters almost entirely regardless of the opposition party. The only thing that keeps either party in for multiple terms is the opposition being so very bad in comparison that they are essentially unelectable to the majority.
How no party has ever figured out how to keep up with the ever changing reasons for getting booted out of power without constantly changing its policies (which istself is a quick way to get the boot) is not a mystery.
Spot on analysis. I've been saying for years that this mess started with Cameron and now, you couldn't make it up he's unelected but back!
Just one thing if we really want to humiliate the Tories we have to be preparred to vote tactically. You may be a staunch Labour supporter and alway voted that way in the past, but if the best chance of beating your Tory candidate is voting Lib Dem then please, please do it? I don't even care if that means voting Reform, (they will never get enough sears to matter). WHATEVER IT TAKES TO DESTROY, not just beat, THE CORRUPTION THAT IS THE TORY PARTY.
Cameron showed the arrogance of upper clarses when he called the Brexit referendum. He believed that we plebs would do as we were told and vote Remain. We finally had a chance to stick it to the man and we went for it.
If you think that FPTP is a ''not fit for purpose'' electoral system, then vote REFORM. Use that vote to vote FOR something rather than vote Against things.
Their shirts are deepest brown, though.
Labour will win. Electoral reform is very badly needed. So from all sides there should be pressure put on Labour to scrap FPTP. Probably the only issue on which the Lib Dems. Reform and the SNP could cooperate🙂
And, enough Labour members back it too that it may really, finally come.
Why would anyone vote for climate change-denying, Andrew Tate-backing, Putin-supporting, NHS-hating, White Nationaists?
Your company is literally against everything - human rights, foreigners, the envionment, foreigners, NATO, foreigners...
Vote for something but anything rather than Reform
@@Hartley_Hare As will be the Tories shirt tails after this election...
Gove is frigging genius.. he gets the taxpayer to pay for all that coke. 😅😅😂