Your reach is the entire TH-cam Creator Community. You have a direct and exclusive line to MILLIONS of creators. Yet your videos barely get 20K views. Crazy how people that work at TH-cam also don't know how to get more views. Why is that?
Maybe it's because most creators are too lazy to want to learn how to improve..... Instead, they spend their time complaining about not getting views 🤙 😉
lol. but the thing is they are not focused on growing their channel. I mean who is going to watch two people talking YT algorithm stuff for so long. makes sense right?
Ellos no son creadores de contenido ,son de soporte y claro ellos no buscan vistas si no ayudar a nosotros los creadores quién busca encuentra y no hay nada como expertos en la materia saludos desde México
Thanks Todd, very insightful, especially the bit about "we find videos for a viewer, not viewers for a video. That being said, please still fix the notification system because many of us still want it to work.
- This is honestly the most helpful and informative Insiders video I have seen. Thank you very much and please make more. Your honest down to earth behaviour and explanation style is much more relatable that the usual extrovert types I see.
This video was full of information and very positive! I would like to see more of these! This was much better than hearing things about the old studio going away because we already know that and I am already using the new studio. Some people who are used to using the old studio are probably more annoyed than I am when I hear that same thing repeated over and over again.
My Home Page experience is very bad. Tell me why: When I watch an uncommon Video (eg I want to buy a new phone and watch a video about this phone instead usual gaming content) the whole home page is almost only consisting of phone videos. It takes me day to get rid off the phone test videos. It seems to trigger the algorithm especially if you watch a video from a category you usually do not watch, but this is not what I want and it takes too long ( I almost have to click on around 40 videos that Im not interested) to get rid off these suggestions until everything is back to normal. To avoid this i started to watch uncommon videos in private mode in my browser to avoid getting my home page trashed with irrelevant videos. Also Videos I already watched are suggested over and over again. If this would be a music video, I could understand this behaviour, but I also get this on non music videos.
A way to fix it is to delete the video from your "history," or whenever one of those videos show up on your home screen, click the thing that says "not interested." Good luck!
Try Jimmy Kimmel and you might as well watch ABC. TH-cam wants to be a TV channel and with their most simple algorithm which is programmed like a child. It will go to the parent that gives out sweets. TH-cam produces the most unlike videos on their own platform. I rest my case...
My home page watching experience is TERRIBLE guys 😣 I literally get the exact same 5 videos recommended every day...I don’t want to be constantly clicking “not interested,” the algorithm should understand that if they have shown a thumbnail a couple of times and I didn’t click on it I’m simply not interested 🙄 I wish you would recommend something new every time I scroll down!
It is so cool to meet such wonderful people doing such cool things to make our life easier Rachael, Tom thanks for sharing this... You're doing a smashing job!
Very good idea to see the perspective and insides from a person who is doing this exact thing all we youtubers want: "Explore new creators and promote them to new viewers". Thanks Todd and Creator Insiders.
Thanks guys for your videos, I’m at 90,000 subscribers, I actually just kinda quit TH-cam before few reasons, main reason was because it was getting depressing with my subs to views duration and also because my watch time has been horrible, so I decided to step away for now. I just posted a video on my channel to explain to my viewers why I’m leaving etc... I just need to quit for now, I’m kinda sad lol
Thank you again, Todd, for this video, Rachel did really good in presenting and explaining being her first time. I learn so much today, about being getting discovered. I was always frustrated that my videos were just being recommended and wanted to be on suggested instead on the home page even though they have a 14% - 10% clickthrough rate. Now I know it really does not matter which one, our videos will not be more successful on suggested than the home page. Also, the home page is more of an advantage due to the large size thumbnails. I tell you, I will never complain about TH-cam again 8 billion information gathered every day is enough to make me appreciate this platform more and know there’s a lot of work that goes into our videos being suggested or recommended to the right viewer 😊💕
Was just going to say, the sound quality is terrible in this video. Sounds like it was made in a garage. I would think they would make these video in some kind of studio with a professional microphone.
The difference between HOME & SUGGESTED is that on home consumers don't know what GENRE to consume, but on suggested they already know the GENRE and they want more of "that"!
I should start by saying, I actually really love TH-cam & I believe in the power of the platform and its creators. Now, I've had an issue with large traffic dwindling from my channel when it was thriving in 2014-2018, but TH-cam changed how "Suggested" is done in 2019, as my channel really died. It just doesn't seem like coincidence, and that analytics show it, since in the thriving years I would get 70% of my traffic from the "Suggested" section. Nowadays, the way Suggested works, you could be watching a video about Pokemon and see Jimmy Fallon be Suggested - obviously, that's mainly if you've had a history of watching Jimmy Fallon, but those two topics are not related. Suggested Videos used to be a great way for viewers to find creators who covered the topic they were already watching a video about (example would be watching a video about Pokemon, and then a Pokemon-related video from a different creator is in the Suggested section), well above what Home/Browser has the capacity to do.
Curious as to what your suggested rate is now, mine currently sits at a whopping 6.5% which almost exactly coincides with the 5.1% on TH-cam search, the massive bulk of my audience is from Browse features at 51.4%
@@InfoWarrior I'm around 35% Browse and 30% Suggested when I look at the last 365 days, but it dwindles more and more as you get closer to the last 28 days, where Suggested is around 20% and Search is higher with Browse still in the lead. Suggested used to be *huge* for discoverability because I covered the topics people were wanting to see, had awesome meta-data, and an original series that I displayed all of those trending topics with, so TH-cam rewarded that kind of thing by Suggesting my videos alongside larger creators and my videos proved to be "worth it" because there was a lot of retention & growth there for a long time. That pretty much stopped almost dead in its tracks at the start of 2019 when they changed how Suggested works, sadly :(
@@DrKendoCommentaries and yet despite my 9 minute average watch time I am still less than a third of that 20 percent.... Thanks for the response always looking for real insights.
@@InfoWarrior Yeah, 9 minutes is great, haha; my audience retention graphs show usually about an average of 2-3 minutes of a 10-minute video are being watched. So somewhere in that 25-30% range retention.
Thanks for letting us know more about suggested and browse. Seems like the best traffic sources from youtube you can get, and its helpful to know how it works and how to get your videos to rank in those areas.
Hey Barbara nice to see you after a long time...getting insight on analytics helps greatly understand what goes behind the scene when we upload a video. Adjusting ranking for each viewer!! wow really wow... Big Thanks for the great updates, Cheers!
To all those who are criticizing the video production; these people aren't youtubers they work at youtube and try to share valuable information on how youtube works. They know their craft which is development and not necessarily video production. So lets just learn from the amazing content Creator insider is producing! Thanks for the great work!
During my last upload and going through the 3 steps to Publication, I had to go back to find the TAGS and there was a Tip telling me that unless there could be similar words misspelled in (title, description,) then the Tags were unlikely to help my video be discovered during searches - or words similar to that effect. Now, I was always under the impression from the TH-cam Gurus and TubeBudy and many others showing us how to grow our channels that TAGS were important, but that last notice appears to be the opposite so, please clarify? Thank you.
Is there an easy way in analytics to differentiate between uploaded content and stream VoDs that are saved to the channel after the stream ends? Sometimes I want to look at analytics according to that split to compare things like click-through-rate, CPM, subscribers, etc and I currently have to export a large data set to excel and then try to manually tag them to work on any analysis.
@@aminyapussi4740 always opportunities to learn more. There are a lot of aspects of TH-cam that are not necessarily super clear, so its always helpful to gather more info :)
Very helpful video Todd and Rachel. Hope to see you both again in a future Myth-busters video. Understanding the analytics behind the curtain is interesting and the insight you provide is helpful. Now, if I just knew how to put that to work for my channel ;)
Welcome to the Creator Insider Team Todd and great job Rachel. Thank you both very much for the information on search and discovery. Hope there will be more videos forthcoming on analytics, the algorithm, and search & discovery.
Request for enhancement so that big channels can assist smaller ones and viewers can discover new content they like: How about a section for channels with 1k+ subs, to list say 10 channels that they think deserve a mention? Then a viewer of a successful channel can get connected to smaller quality channels which are on topic.
Very helpful Video, especially the last sentences "we search videos for viewers, not viewers for videos". That is something most creators have to learn. Thanks, Todd and Rachel, looking forward to seeing more smart Videos with information from behind the scenes.
Thank you this was definitely worth the watch! I’ve learned so much since we started our daughters channel. I want to learn about the chips feature and more about the customer experience in the future for your product team
My channel analytics don't work anymore. They stopped working a couple days ago. It says retry, I click that and that does not fix it. No part of the analytics work, neither on my dashboard page nor my analytics page. I shut off extensions and deleted cookies and cached pages and still no luck getting them back.
Suggested videos traffic source is a great page, but even you guys mention that most of the videos are our own, can we not implement a way to filter out our own videos? Also having the name of the uploader of the video would be great, currently you have to click through to the video to find out who owns it. Thanks
Thank you for uploading videos like these, I appreciate all of the advice you are giving to us creators. I did have one question though, so basically a year / two years ago I uploaded one specific type of content on my channel it did well, but now that content is getting old and not as popular as before so I am uploading new videos that I really enjoy making, but it seems that when people watch my video it's still seems to be recommending them to the previous content I use to make, rather then the new content. Is there any strategies I can do to get myself into the right algorithm with the content I am posting now? Look forward to getting some feedback soon! Best Regards, PainfulPvP :)
Quick question: What's up with these videos from 9 years ago or so being recommended en masse? 😂 It's now a thing on TH-cam, probably you've noticed it too. It doesn't seem like it's about our interests, but algorithm catching some really old, really random/irrelevant videos. 😊
We would just like to say thank you TH-cam for allowing us into the Partner Program, our only wish is that one day this platform will make direct help from a person available. We have many questions that could easily be answered by a YT employee. The creator academy rabbit hole is so deep, there is a headache and link at every turn. Regardless, we still appreciate Creator Insider trying to assist creators.
17:01 TH-cam doesn't have a reputation score "We don't" !! 17:23 What yotube does suggest channels more what they seen before, So yes you have a channel ranking, if a channel is new there is very hard to get his video suggested, unlike big channels.
With having seen this video I'm still wondering when is TH-cam going to release the TH-cam explore tab (the tab that's going to supposedly help smaller TH-camrs grow).
They don' want small TH-camrs, or any TH-camrs in fact. They want Jimmies. Jimmy Fallon, Jimmy Kimmel, Rachel "Jimmy" Maddow, Don "Jimmy" Lemon, Bill "Jim" Maher. CNN "Jimmy" MSNBC. If you are not one of the JimJims, then forget about it. :-(
I have found TH-cam is NOT in the business of helping you grow, that's not their job, that's your job. Their job is to provide you with a platform for YOU to grow your channel and get people to go to your channel Your job is to produce videos that people will search for and watch. If the video is of interest to a huge audience they'll find it in a search. If it's a really interesting video people with share it and your channel will grow. Of course TH-cam will post your video but after that it's up to you to get it noticed. You can do that by: 1. Making the video interesting to a group of people. 2. Use other social media to get people to at least look at your video and know it's there, ie. Facebook, Pinterest & Forum's related to your topic. Me on my small channel, I don't overly care if I grow that fast. I make a broad range of videos from: Vehicle repairs to electronic test equipment repairs to WWII aircraft at airshows. I don't expect to grow into a huge channel because of the way it's organized. I didn't design it to make a lot of money. I designed my channel to put up videos I thought SOME people might find interesting and helpful. For me If so great, if not oh well. I mean that's ok if that's what a person wants out of YT. YT is a great place to start a business and make some cash. I did look at your channel, I think you have a great start, keep going and you'll find what your viewers like and what they don't. Competition is Stiff at best, stick with it long enough and you'll figure it out. Best Wishes, Blessings. & success to you on your channel. Keith Noneya
Thank you so much Todd and Rachel for all the great information you provided to us creators on YT with this video. I'm not trying to undermine TH-cam's human resource initiative with this comment, but I really like the way you two interacted during your presentations. Are you allowed to create you own Channel with after-hours effort? You both already have great camera presence, and I see some underlying skill there in terms comedic banter that would go over very well. Anyway, I was already subscribed, but on this one I hit the 'Like', and of course I watched all the way through, so keep coming on and entertaining us as well as import great useful content. Now I'm behind on my video work today, so that is the fault of you two :)
Yea Todd lied about the whole "taking a break won't hurt your channel" thing too, only for Barbra to later say "We know you've got to stay on that weekly content grind"
@@ClawBoss I speak from experience when I say don't waste your time with "TH-cam alternatives". All the promising ones always wind up dying and usually have poor management, though in the case of Vidlii and Vlare, they just have poor management and aren't worth anyone's time regardless of how long they stay up. I backed my main channel onto Bitchute because of the automatic mirroring and all my important videos go on Internet Archive but aside from that I'm sticking with TH-cam.
My cousin works in SEO (search engine optimization) and here is a nugget of wisdom from her: recommendation was that every serious content creator (be it a podcast, youtube, etc.) should be generating traffic from multiple online sources. This means, "build a website" and then optimize for google search terms. So, like a blog, web store, something like that. This is a starting place that almost anyone can accomplish. It is a lot easier than getting on a radio station or something like that. You place links to your youtube videos in the top of your blog entry. It's 21st century marketing 101. Expecting TH-cam to do the marketing for you by algorithmically recommending your content to viewers is a really new concept in general, and I think because the platform skews fairly young, creators may not understand the idea that you kind of have to do the legwork of branding and marketing yourself if you ever want to be taken seriously. Look at a lot of the channels that have millions of views. Most of them place links to their websites (often multiple different websites for their other projects) in their video descriptions. I do this as a hobby, make videos for myself first and viewers second. But I'm thinking of flipping this around, taking it more seriously - and a website with blog entries containing links to my videos is going to be the first stop. It's a nice revolving door for you; people can discover your website via your youtube channel, and people can discover your youtube channel via your website. Word of mouth works better when people have multiple avenues to find you. Throw in merch, affiliate links and subscriber exclusive content that are independent between sites and now you've generated multiple income streams that are less dependent on rote viewer counts.
You need to work on your thumbnails, they are not that strong so won't get clicked on. I've not checked your content as I'm not really familiar with it but definitely your thumbnails need work. Definitely curable, just a case of watching a few videos on how to create good thumbails and put it into practice. If in doubt look at what the main players in your field are doing and learn from them.
Hi Todd, expanding on our conversation from the last video you were in. We don't have a notification bell icon in Studio. The bell with the red circle & number showing comments and when videos are released by other creators. When we contact YT Help they say we will get it once Studio is out of BETA?!?! They recommend staying in Classic. The last time we were told this was this week.
It really goes to show how little they care about the people they're leeching money off of. Without creators, there wouldn't even be any viewers in the first place.
One thing I'm a bit curious about: If you upload a video, but untick the box saying "notifiy subscribers and post on subscription feed" (don't remember the exact phrase, it could be slightly different), will the algorithm treat that video differently - in other search/discovery aspects as well - than those that keep the box ticked?
AtariKafa Or at least the option for us to select the Subs tab as our default. The recommendations on Home are usually so poor I skip straight to Subs anyway.
Hi! We've tested this many times, and the results consistently show that limiting the default view to subscriptions dramatically reduces how much subscribers watch and come back to TH-cam. By defaulting to Home, we can better deliver the videos that each viewer is most likely to watch and enjoy, this includes but is not limited to videos from subscriptions.
Creator Insider Thanks for replying. Why not give us the option though, so those of us who find the Home recommendations to be generally uninteresting can just go straight to what they have chosen to watch?
In my case, the types of videos I see in the suggested videos section of my analytics aren't changing enough. It's just a bunch of stuff that ties to old videos of mine that were already popular and even when I post other videos in the same general category as those videos, those videos often underpreform by comparison so this is pretty much completely useless information.
I don't think it is completely useless information. Remember they mentioned do not focus so much on where the traffic comes from and on creating quality videos. However, to answer your question I think you are trying to get new suggested video views to the new videos you are publishing ? That is difficult to achieve, they mentioned an interesting concept of co-watching and what they did not mention was that you can influence this via end cards or i cards within your video. Though it is effective with high traffic, meaning a video getting 100 views with 10 clicks on a particular video on an end card will not impact suggested video views via co-watching. Also, try linking your old popular video, if they still get traffic to the new videos you publish if they are of similar topic and see if users have high CTR via end cards
The point is our ability to influence the algorithm via suggested video views is highly debatable. However, if you achieve High CTR on your videos via co-watching then that should be a Win for your channel
Thanks, now I finally know what's wrong with Up Next/Suggested Videos: Please Turn Off Personalization for Suggested videos!!! It keeps recommending content NOT related to what I'm watching, 90% of the time it's from The Daily Show, or LinusTechTips (general tech or politics too. So please give us the option to turn off Personalization for Suggested videos. I only want to watch content related to what I'm currently watching. Example: The Up Next recommendation for this current video is: "Beautiful Piano Music 24/7 Live" , on Creator Insider ! Like, what?
I'm always wondering how youtube select what videos/channels from the same niche to offer to viewers, and whether there is some sort of rotation through the channels in specific niche...
About thumbnails. It would be nice to allow contextual thumbnails. For example, you can allow users to upload a thumbnail for each 'home' and 'suggested', etc.
I understand what you say about finding videos for viewers when they turn up, but how does that sit with the 'Info Tip' "You can increase the chance of TH-cam suggesting your content by increasing your click-through rate and your video watch time."? If no one who may want to watch my video actually can, because they don't know it exists, how will they ever find out if you never suggest it? We can't increase the "chance of TH-cam suggesting" because we can't increase the CTR or watch time because no one is watching it. Now, it doesn't particularly bother me as 72% of my views come from Search and I'm not trying to be a TH-camr.
As a TH-cam user (versus creator) I find that it can be really difficult to find content that I am searching for using the current methods with the algorithm. Would it be possible to expand a menu search, where the search can be done via specific categories, like TH-cam Music, but for a wider variety of topics like automobile, DIY, product reviews, cooking, crafts, comedies, bloggers, horror flicks, cosplay, etc. that way viewers could go directly to the broader topic to be able to search videos without the limitations of the algorithm?
Hi there, P-scores are not used by Search and Discovery. P-Score is a metric used to determine who is eligible for Google Preferred. You can read more about P-Score here: youtube.googleblog.com/2019/05/2019-brandcast-stage-highlights.html. What matters for Search and Discovery is each viewer's individual relationship to a channel. Hope that helps?
can we get livestream VODs and regular video uploads seperated pernanently into "uploaded videos" and "past livestreams" ? It's usually very different audiences that watch either, and a channel gets cluttered when there are more livestreams than video uploads.
I really appreciate these vides from YT. I've been really confused by the terms "Browse" and "Suggested" etc. "Watch Next" is much clearer. Its interesting the terms used by the actual people doing this at YT doesn't match the labels. If you guys at YT are calling it "Watch Next" or "Home Page" I"m all for labeling it the same.
It's really hard to get viewers from youtube. I should share it on social media but if don't it will not get any viewers. and also after that video not reach any new viewers. it's really hard
Hi There - Is there a way that a creator can set where his/her video is to be viewed the most in terms of geography. This might be just a handfull in number and reagrds to regional videos. While there is an option to set where is the location of the video, it would be great if there is some feature where you want your videos to be viewed by whom, where etc.
When you guys were talking about the "up next" suggested videos, I was thinking about the queue feature, which I personally use VERY often. Mom & I watch TH-cam every day, we don't even have TV anymore. Before, on my slow laptop, I'd open a few tabs of videos while keeping home open so we can binge, but the queue helps so much with that. I was wondering, will we (or can we already) see analytics about how viewers use the queue feature with our own uploads? It would be nice to see if anyone puts my own videos into a queue to binge with other videos, or multiple of my my own videos. Maybe how often my videos are added to a queue & if engagement with the video (likes/shares/comments/etc) increase or decrease when videos are in a queue. Maybe how many times multiples of my videos are added to the same queue too.
Thank you; this is very informative. I study my analytics daily to try to decipher "the code" LOL. I will definitely be checking out your other videos in this series since I have sooooooooooooo many questions!!!!
Suggestion to help viewers and creators - fix the thumbnail size of the suggested videos to be the same as the home feed. This will help viewers to see thumbnails properly, and it will help creators benefit from this change too.
Thanks for sharing the behind the scenes information. You answered some of my questions. I had video go from 800+ views an hour over weeks to 20 views an hour. This happened in a one hour increment in one day. Very confusing.
"Some creators see a drop in rankings over their career"
Can't drop in ranking if you're at 0! CHECKMATE!
Next week TH-cam will introduce negative subscriber counts.
There is also an infinite array of negative scores you can try to compete with.
@Addict C that's nice!
@@VideosfromNH That comment reminded me of the funny youtube glitch a year ago where some channels had --1,000 subscribers.
Hahahahha!
Your reach is the entire TH-cam Creator Community. You have a direct and exclusive line to MILLIONS of creators. Yet your videos barely get 20K views. Crazy how people that work at TH-cam also don't know how to get more views. Why is that?
Probably because they don't show their video in the youtube features and homepage. I've found their video from the dashboard.
Maybe it's because most creators are too lazy to want to learn how to improve..... Instead, they spend their time complaining about not getting views 🤙 😉
lol. but the thing is they are not focused on growing their channel. I mean who is going to watch two people talking YT algorithm stuff for so long. makes sense right?
Ellos no son creadores de contenido ,son de soporte y claro ellos no buscan vistas si no ayudar a nosotros los creadores quién busca encuentra y no hay nada como expertos en la materia saludos desde México
Thanks Todd, very insightful, especially the bit about "we find videos for a viewer, not viewers for a video. That being said, please still fix the notification system because many of us still want it to work.
- This is honestly the most helpful and informative Insiders video I have seen. Thank you very much and please make more. Your honest down to earth behaviour and explanation style is much more relatable that the usual extrovert types I see.
I had no idea "browse" referred to the home page. If it were called "home page" I would have known.
Welcome to BS YT Land...
yep would have never guessed that lmao, i thought it was the search bar
This video was full of information and very positive! I would like to see more of these! This was much better than hearing things about the old studio going away because we already know that and I am already using the new studio. Some people who are used to using the old studio are probably more annoyed than I am when I hear that same thing repeated over and over again.
I'd love to know how a viewer adding a video to "watch later" impacts its performance.
great question, like seriously good insight
Yes. Is it just a viewer feature or considered as some sort of intent?
My Home Page experience is very bad. Tell me why: When I watch an uncommon Video (eg I want to buy a new phone and watch a video about this phone instead usual gaming content) the whole home page is almost only consisting of phone videos. It takes me day to get rid off the phone test videos.
It seems to trigger the algorithm especially if you watch a video from a category you usually do not watch, but this is not what I want and it takes too long ( I almost have to click on around 40 videos that Im not interested) to get rid off these suggestions until everything is back to normal.
To avoid this i started to watch uncommon videos in private mode in my browser to avoid getting my home page trashed with irrelevant videos.
Also Videos I already watched are suggested over and over again. If this would be a music video, I could understand this behaviour, but I also get this on non music videos.
A way to fix it is to delete the video from your "history," or whenever one of those videos show up on your home screen, click the thing that says "not interested." Good luck!
You can remove specific videos from your watch history, which seems to tell the algorithm that you really aren't interested in more of this.
Try Jimmy Kimmel and you might as well watch ABC. TH-cam wants to be a TV channel and with their most simple algorithm which is programmed like a child. It will go to the parent that gives out sweets. TH-cam produces the most unlike videos on their own platform. I rest my case...
mine is worse ... many things to update ....
A very valid point to be considered.
My home page watching experience is TERRIBLE guys 😣 I literally get the exact same 5 videos recommended every day...I don’t want to be constantly clicking “not interested,” the algorithm should understand that if they have shown a thumbnail a couple of times and I didn’t click on it I’m simply not interested 🙄 I wish you would recommend something new every time I scroll down!
Short answer: If you're not a late night comedian or a news outlet....your videos will no longer be discovered.
It is so cool to meet such wonderful people doing such cool things to make our life easier Rachael, Tom thanks for sharing this... You're doing a smashing job!
Very good idea to see the perspective and insides from a person who is doing this exact thing all we youtubers want: "Explore new creators and promote them to new viewers". Thanks Todd and Creator Insiders.
Thanks guys for your videos, I’m at 90,000 subscribers, I actually just kinda quit TH-cam before few reasons, main reason was because it was getting depressing with my subs to views duration and also because my watch time has been horrible, so I decided to step away for now. I just posted a video on my channel to explain to my viewers why I’m leaving etc... I just need to quit for now, I’m kinda sad lol
Thank you for the value information! ❤️
Thank you again, Todd, for this video, Rachel did really good in presenting and explaining being her first time.
I learn so much today, about being getting discovered. I was always frustrated that my videos were just being recommended and wanted to be on suggested instead on the home page even though they have a 14% - 10% clickthrough rate. Now I know it really does not matter which one, our videos will not be more successful on suggested than the home page. Also, the home page is more of an advantage due to the large size thumbnails. I tell you, I will never complain about TH-cam again 8 billion information gathered every day is enough to make me appreciate this platform more and know there’s a lot of work that goes into our videos being suggested or recommended to the right viewer 😊💕
Thank you for the thoughtful feedback!
I like how most people on TH-cam have a better microphone then these guys. Same with thumbnails
and they are better on camera, too.
Was just going to say, the sound quality is terrible in this video. Sounds like it was made in a garage. I would think they would make these video in some kind of studio with a professional microphone.
Its surprising that the quality is kinda low, but the video still has a lot of value.
I love this guy Todd!! nice to see you again. Love the girl too she's my favorite. Cool to get insight into developments... Thanks 😊
The difference between HOME & SUGGESTED is that on home consumers don't know what GENRE to consume, but on suggested they already know the GENRE and they want more of "that"!
I should start by saying, I actually really love TH-cam & I believe in the power of the platform and its creators. Now, I've had an issue with large traffic dwindling from my channel when it was thriving in 2014-2018, but TH-cam changed how "Suggested" is done in 2019, as my channel really died. It just doesn't seem like coincidence, and that analytics show it, since in the thriving years I would get 70% of my traffic from the "Suggested" section.
Nowadays, the way Suggested works, you could be watching a video about Pokemon and see Jimmy Fallon be Suggested - obviously, that's mainly if you've had a history of watching Jimmy Fallon, but those two topics are not related. Suggested Videos used to be a great way for viewers to find creators who covered the topic they were already watching a video about (example would be watching a video about Pokemon, and then a Pokemon-related video from a different creator is in the Suggested section), well above what Home/Browser has the capacity to do.
Curious as to what your suggested rate is now, mine currently sits at a whopping 6.5% which almost exactly coincides with the 5.1% on TH-cam search, the massive bulk of my audience is from Browse features at 51.4%
@@InfoWarrior I'm around 35% Browse and 30% Suggested when I look at the last 365 days, but it dwindles more and more as you get closer to the last 28 days, where Suggested is around 20% and Search is higher with Browse still in the lead.
Suggested used to be *huge* for discoverability because I covered the topics people were wanting to see, had awesome meta-data, and an original series that I displayed all of those trending topics with, so TH-cam rewarded that kind of thing by Suggesting my videos alongside larger creators and my videos proved to be "worth it" because there was a lot of retention & growth there for a long time. That pretty much stopped almost dead in its tracks at the start of 2019 when they changed how Suggested works, sadly :(
@@DrKendoCommentaries and yet despite my 9 minute average watch time I am still less than a third of that 20 percent.... Thanks for the response always looking for real insights.
@@InfoWarrior Yeah, 9 minutes is great, haha; my audience retention graphs show usually about an average of 2-3 minutes of a 10-minute video are being watched. So somewhere in that 25-30% range retention.
Thanks for letting us know more about suggested and browse. Seems like the best traffic sources from youtube you can get, and its helpful to know how it works and how to get your videos to rank in those areas.
great information we learn so much from them
@@magicaldays7099 Certainly! Glad they make these videos for us as creators to help us sort through whats really important on youtube 👌
Hey Barbara nice to see you after a long time...getting insight on analytics helps greatly understand what goes behind the scene when we upload a video. Adjusting ranking for each viewer!! wow really wow... Big Thanks for the great updates, Cheers!
I recently noticed chips for the first time and was curious are they directly related to the tags of a video, or a mix of all metadata?
To all those who are criticizing the video production; these people aren't youtubers they work at youtube and try to share valuable information on how youtube works. They know their craft which is development and not necessarily video production. So lets just learn from the amazing content Creator insider is producing! Thanks for the great work!
It’s 2022, and this video is as current as it could possibly be. A true gem! 🙏
Happy New Year Babara, Todd & Rachel great to see you all back. So many valuable tips in this vid wow thank you!!!
I love these videos that go into so much detail. Thanks Todd and Rachel. Great work. 😎
We love watching these videos we learn so much.🙌🙌
Totally agree. Still valid a year later. 😉
During my last upload and going through the 3 steps to Publication, I had to go back to find the TAGS and there was a Tip telling me that unless there could be similar words misspelled in (title, description,) then the Tags were unlikely to help my video be discovered during searches - or words similar to that effect. Now, I was always under the impression from the TH-cam Gurus and TubeBudy and many others showing us how to grow our channels that TAGS were important, but that last notice appears to be the opposite so, please clarify? Thank you.
Todd sure loves to help and support creators. Thanks to Todd and everyone at the creator insider channel!
The Master here hmself getting the real deal to share with us on your channel!
Brian, you are everywhere man
You've also supported tons of youtubers like myself :D Thanks Brian!
Brown nosing hard huh
Is there an easy way in analytics to differentiate between uploaded content and stream VoDs that are saved to the channel after the stream ends? Sometimes I want to look at analytics according to that split to compare things like click-through-rate, CPM, subscribers, etc and I currently have to export a large data set to excel and then try to manually tag them to work on any analysis.
CrypticFox yes please!!
Didn't know you watch these too. I was assuming this is meant for the uninitiated like us and not for the seasoned veterans.
@@aminyapussi4740 always opportunities to learn more. There are a lot of aspects of TH-cam that are not necessarily super clear, so its always helpful to gather more info :)
Very helpful video Todd and Rachel. Hope to see you both again in a future Myth-busters video. Understanding the analytics behind the curtain is interesting and the insight you provide is helpful. Now, if I just knew how to put that to work for my channel ;)
Welcome to the Creator Insider Team Todd and great job Rachel. Thank you both very much for the information on search and discovery. Hope there will be more videos forthcoming on analytics, the algorithm, and search & discovery.
I love the transparency! Thank you!!
I think I love these two because they sound more like real people and not creators trying to sound upbeat!! Good job!!
please answer me.
is (browse features) means homepage ? I always looked up for the meaning of this traffic source but never got it
Same here!
Request for enhancement so that big channels can assist smaller ones and viewers can discover new content they like: How about a section for channels with 1k+ subs, to list say 10 channels that they think deserve a mention? Then a viewer of a successful channel can get connected to smaller quality channels which are on topic.
Great idea!!! 👍😀🙌
thank you!!!!
I'd cut off people hands just to give this more thumbs up 👍 great idea, top drawer ol' chap.
Great video, Rachel and Todd did amazing, didn't want it to stop.
Thank you so much guys for doing a fantastic job. TH-cam are a so much better now here in 2020 versus a few years back 👌😉 keep on rocking 👌
Excellent video. Thank you!
Very helpful Video, especially the last sentences "we search videos for viewers, not viewers for videos". That is something most creators have to learn. Thanks, Todd and Rachel, looking forward to seeing more smart Videos with information from behind the scenes.
"Viewer intent". Powerful stuff! Well done, gang
great information. we learn something new every time we watch one of their videos😀🙌
Heyy uncle dan i love ur videos 🔥💙
Thank you this was definitely worth the watch! I’ve learned so much since we started our daughters channel. I want to learn about the chips feature and more about the customer experience in the future for your product team
My channel analytics don't work anymore. They stopped working a couple days ago. It says retry, I click that and that does not fix it. No part of the analytics work, neither on my dashboard page nor my analytics page. I shut off extensions and deleted cookies and cached pages and still no luck getting them back.
this is an awesome service you guys and gals are providing ,thank you for your service !
great information we learn so much from them 😀
I agree with some of the points in this video. It takes a lot of work for a TH-cam channel. I've been at it for 4 years
Suggested videos traffic source is a great page, but even you guys mention that most of the videos are our own, can we not implement a way to filter out our own videos? Also having the name of the uploader of the video would be great, currently you have to click through to the video to find out who owns it. Thanks
Awesome news. Cause Todd's definitely a great addition to your channel every time hes on
Love watching these videos! So much helpful information!
great information we learn so much from them
Thank you for uploading videos like these, I appreciate all of the advice you are giving to us creators. I did have one question though, so basically a year / two years ago I uploaded one specific type of content on my channel it did well, but now that content is getting old and not as popular as before so I am uploading new videos that I really enjoy making, but it seems that when people watch my video it's still seems to be recommending them to the previous content I use to make, rather then the new content.
Is there any strategies I can do to get myself into the right algorithm with the content I am posting now? Look forward to getting some feedback soon!
Best Regards,
PainfulPvP :)
bruhhh you nailed it.😎
Quick question: What's up with these videos from 9 years ago or so being recommended en masse? 😂 It's now a thing on TH-cam, probably you've noticed it too. It doesn't seem like it's about our interests, but algorithm catching some really old, really random/irrelevant videos. 😊
Evrim Ağacı I noticed this a week or so ago. Some of the recommendations are mad. Good to know I’m not the only one!
We would just like to say thank you TH-cam for allowing us into the Partner Program, our only wish is that one day this platform will make direct help from a person available. We have many questions that could easily be answered by a YT employee. The creator academy rabbit hole is so deep, there is a headache and link at every turn. Regardless, we still appreciate Creator Insider trying to assist creators.
Creators need to acknowledge that subscribers don't matter much anymore.
17:01 TH-cam doesn't have a reputation score "We don't" !! 17:23 What yotube does suggest channels more what they seen before, So yes you have a channel ranking, if a channel is new there is very hard to get his video suggested, unlike big channels.
Yup, what is first, chicken or egg?
@Addict C interesting thank you
With having seen this video I'm still wondering when is TH-cam going to release the TH-cam explore tab (the tab that's going to supposedly help smaller TH-camrs grow).
The idea of TH-cam helping smaller channels grow is funny to me.
probably never, they dont even help people above the 100k mark grow or avoid censorship
They don' want small TH-camrs, or any TH-camrs in fact. They want Jimmies. Jimmy Fallon, Jimmy Kimmel, Rachel "Jimmy" Maddow, Don "Jimmy" Lemon, Bill "Jim" Maher. CNN "Jimmy" MSNBC.
If you are not one of the JimJims, then forget about it. :-(
I have found TH-cam is NOT in the business of helping you grow, that's not their job, that's your job. Their job is to provide you with a platform for YOU to grow your channel and get people to go to your channel Your job is to produce videos that people will search for and watch. If the video is of interest to a huge audience they'll find it in a search. If it's a really interesting video people with share it and your channel will grow. Of course TH-cam will post your video but after that it's up to you to get it noticed. You can do that by: 1. Making the video interesting to a group of people. 2. Use other social media to get people to at least look at your video and know it's there, ie. Facebook, Pinterest & Forum's related to your topic.
Me on my small channel, I don't overly care if I grow that fast. I make a broad range of videos from: Vehicle repairs to electronic test equipment repairs to WWII aircraft at airshows. I don't expect to grow into a huge channel because of the way it's organized. I didn't design it to make a lot of money. I designed my channel to put up videos I thought SOME people might find interesting and helpful. For me If so great, if not oh well. I mean that's ok if that's what a person wants out of YT. YT is a great place to start a business and make some cash. I did look at your channel, I think you have a great start, keep going and you'll find what your viewers like and what they don't. Competition is Stiff at best, stick with it long enough and you'll figure it out. Best Wishes, Blessings. & success to you on your channel. Keith Noneya
yes
Todd your um count is improving! Seriously thanks for the detailed explanation. Nice job presenting Rachel on your first go.
Thank you so much Todd and Rachel for all the great information you provided to us creators on YT with this video. I'm not trying to undermine TH-cam's human resource initiative with this comment, but I really like the way you two interacted during your presentations. Are you allowed to create you own Channel with after-hours effort? You both already have great camera presence, and I see some underlying skill there in terms comedic banter that would go over very well. Anyway, I was already subscribed, but on this one I hit the 'Like', and of course I watched all the way through, so keep coming on and entertaining us as well as import great useful content. Now I'm behind on my video work today, so that is the fault of you two :)
Thanks Todd...Please come often..!
Awesome 👍👍
Todd, you just made my day! Yes, I look so much forward to see more of you! 😃 Cheers, Nico
“MYTHBUSTING”... meanwhile my channel is horribly dead and it’s nothing I did wrong... 😡
Rich Buddy Yup. StoryFire is the future for me
Yea Todd lied about the whole "taking a break won't hurt your channel" thing too, only for Barbra to later say "We know you've got to stay on that weekly content grind"
@@ClawBoss I speak from experience when I say don't waste your time with "TH-cam alternatives". All the promising ones always wind up dying and usually have poor management, though in the case of Vidlii and Vlare, they just have poor management and aren't worth anyone's time regardless of how long they stay up. I backed my main channel onto Bitchute because of the automatic mirroring and all my important videos go on Internet Archive but aside from that I'm sticking with TH-cam.
mattwo7 Absolutely... my channel dies after not posting for 1 week
todd looks like the old guy from Disney's Up
We agree!
My cousin works in SEO (search engine optimization) and here is a nugget of wisdom from her: recommendation was that every serious content creator (be it a podcast, youtube, etc.) should be generating traffic from multiple online sources. This means, "build a website" and then optimize for google search terms. So, like a blog, web store, something like that. This is a starting place that almost anyone can accomplish. It is a lot easier than getting on a radio station or something like that. You place links to your youtube videos in the top of your blog entry. It's 21st century marketing 101. Expecting TH-cam to do the marketing for you by algorithmically recommending your content to viewers is a really new concept in general, and I think because the platform skews fairly young, creators may not understand the idea that you kind of have to do the legwork of branding and marketing yourself if you ever want to be taken seriously. Look at a lot of the channels that have millions of views. Most of them place links to their websites (often multiple different websites for their other projects) in their video descriptions. I do this as a hobby, make videos for myself first and viewers second. But I'm thinking of flipping this around, taking it more seriously - and a website with blog entries containing links to my videos is going to be the first stop. It's a nice revolving door for you; people can discover your website via your youtube channel, and people can discover your youtube channel via your website. Word of mouth works better when people have multiple avenues to find you. Throw in merch, affiliate links and subscriber exclusive content that are independent between sites and now you've generated multiple income streams that are less dependent on rote viewer counts.
Rachel is very articulate, I find her very attractive.
Why are my cosplay interview videos always buried by content that is several years old? This is soul crushing.
You need to work on your thumbnails, they are not that strong so won't get clicked on. I've not checked your content as I'm not really familiar with it but definitely your thumbnails need work. Definitely curable, just a case of watching a few videos on how to create good thumbails and put it into practice. If in doubt look at what the main players in your field are doing and learn from them.
@@jordanmeanes4464 Thanks!
Hi Todd, expanding on our conversation from the last video you were in. We don't have a notification bell icon in Studio. The bell with the red circle & number showing comments and when videos are released by other creators. When we contact YT Help they say we will get it once Studio is out of BETA?!?! They recommend staying in Classic. The last time we were told this was this week.
This was really useful. I especially like the adage, "we find videos for viewers not find viewers for videos." Makes a lot of sense. Thx :D
It really goes to show how little they care about the people they're leeching money off of. Without creators, there wouldn't even be any viewers in the first place.
One thing I'm a bit curious about: If you upload a video, but untick the box saying "notifiy subscribers and post on subscription feed" (don't remember the exact phrase, it could be slightly different), will the algorithm treat that video differently - in other search/discovery aspects as well - than those that keep the box ticked?
why not make subscripttion tab default home screen ? hihi 😁
AtariKafa Or at least the option for us to select the Subs tab as our default. The recommendations on Home are usually so poor I skip straight to Subs anyway.
Hi! We've tested this many times, and the results consistently show that limiting the default view to subscriptions dramatically reduces how much subscribers watch and come back to TH-cam. By defaulting to Home, we can better deliver the videos that each viewer is most likely to watch and enjoy, this includes but is not limited to videos from subscriptions.
Creator Insider Thanks for replying. Why not give us the option though, so those of us who find the Home recommendations to be generally uninteresting can just go straight to what they have chosen to watch?
@@creatorinsider oh thank you for the info.
Love these videos helping us smaller creators grow on this platform. Appreciate you guys!
you absolutely right!!! great information.😀
What is she doing here? She is so beautiful! Damn, you gotta be an actress or something in one of these CW shows.
Thanks heaps CI, I learned a fair bit from this one!
In my case, the types of videos I see in the suggested videos section of my analytics aren't changing enough. It's just a bunch of stuff that ties to old videos of mine that were already popular and even when I post other videos in the same general category as those videos, those videos often underpreform by comparison so this is pretty much completely useless information.
I don't think it is completely useless information. Remember they mentioned do not focus so much on where the traffic comes from and on creating quality videos. However, to answer your question I think you are trying to get new suggested video views to the new videos you are publishing ? That is difficult to achieve, they mentioned an interesting concept of co-watching and what they did not mention was that you can influence this via end cards or i cards within your video. Though it is effective with high traffic, meaning a video getting 100 views with 10 clicks on a particular video on an end card will not impact suggested video views via co-watching. Also, try linking your old popular video, if they still get traffic to the new videos you publish if they are of similar topic and see if users have high CTR via end cards
mattwo7 exactly.
@@rhomzi I've done co-watching type stuff before including cards and end screens, it doesn't work.
The point is our ability to influence the algorithm via suggested video views is highly debatable. However, if you achieve High CTR on your videos via co-watching then that should be a Win for your channel
@@nannerlchanel5045 I just don't understand why.
Why my tags not appears in my videos........ please answer
Thank you in advance
great question
Can you please do a video on how videos are hidden and not discovered. I'm quite curious about that. So is the rest of the producers here.
Thanks, now I finally know what's wrong with Up Next/Suggested Videos: Please Turn Off Personalization for Suggested videos!!! It keeps recommending content NOT related to what I'm watching, 90% of the time it's from The Daily Show, or LinusTechTips (general tech or politics too.
So please give us the option to turn off Personalization for Suggested videos. I only want to watch content related to what I'm currently watching. Example: The Up Next recommendation for this current video is: "Beautiful Piano Music 24/7 Live" , on Creator Insider ! Like, what?
I'm always wondering how youtube select what videos/channels from the same niche to offer to viewers, and whether there is some sort of rotation through the channels in specific niche...
Learned this: I thought the "chips" were tags and never clicked on them before. Now I know that I can use the chips as a way to search.
About thumbnails. It would be nice to allow contextual thumbnails. For example, you can allow users to upload a thumbnail for each 'home' and 'suggested', etc.
Keep it up Todd! REALLY useful stuff here!
Thank you so much guys for making these videos for us, it really explains a lot, much love ♥️
great information we learn so much from them😀
I understand what you say about finding videos for viewers when they turn up, but how does that sit with the 'Info Tip' "You can increase the chance of TH-cam suggesting your content by increasing your click-through rate and your video watch time."?
If no one who may want to watch my video actually can, because they don't know it exists, how will they ever find out if you never suggest it? We can't increase the "chance of TH-cam suggesting" because we can't increase the CTR or watch time because no one is watching it.
Now, it doesn't particularly bother me as 72% of my views come from Search and I'm not trying to be a TH-camr.
As a TH-cam user (versus creator) I find that it can be really difficult to find content that I am searching for using the current methods with the algorithm. Would it be possible to expand a menu search, where the search can be done via specific categories, like TH-cam Music, but for a wider variety of topics like automobile, DIY, product reviews, cooking, crafts, comedies, bloggers, horror flicks, cosplay, etc. that way viewers could go directly to the broader topic to be able to search videos without the limitations of the algorithm?
great question
If TH-cam doesn't have a reputation score of channels, how do you explain what TH-cam used to call "channelPscore"?
Hi there, P-scores are not used by Search and Discovery. P-Score is a metric used to determine who is eligible for Google Preferred. You can read more about P-Score here: youtube.googleblog.com/2019/05/2019-brandcast-stage-highlights.html. What matters for Search and Discovery is each viewer's individual relationship to a channel. Hope that helps?
@@creatorinsider Thanks, I appreciate your reply!
Yes the boss is back! Third video Todd is in I beleive? Love to hear his insights. 😎
Wow, that's a lot of information! I will be returning to this video many times as my understanding of all this stuff gets deeper.
can we get livestream VODs and regular video uploads seperated pernanently into "uploaded videos" and "past livestreams" ? It's usually very different audiences that watch either, and a channel gets cluttered when there are more livestreams than video uploads.
Thank you so much. The meaning of key traffic sources is much clearer after watching the video. Keep up the good work. Love from India.
I really appreciate these vides from YT. I've been really confused by the terms "Browse" and "Suggested" etc. "Watch Next" is much clearer. Its interesting the terms used by the actual people doing this at YT doesn't match the labels. If you guys at YT are calling it "Watch Next" or "Home Page" I"m all for labeling it the same.
Loved the video folks... Thanks for taking the time to make it. Cheers.
It's really hard to get viewers from youtube. I should share it on social media but if don't it will not get any viewers. and also after that video not reach any new viewers. it's really hard
Fantastic vid!! Really appreciate that you guys put out all this content for free!
You're welcome! Leave us more questions and we can make another video!
great information we learn so much from them😀
I enjoy when you show a screen hot with "Red highlight" in the area you're discussing.
If TH-cam just made the bell ON by default when people sub, every creator wouldn’t then have to tell them to click on it!
Hi There - Is there a way that a creator can set where his/her video is to be viewed the most in terms of geography. This might be just a handfull in number and reagrds to regional videos. While there is an option to set where is the location of the video, it would be great if there is some feature where you want your videos to be viewed by whom, where etc.
When you guys were talking about the "up next" suggested videos, I was thinking about the queue feature, which I personally use VERY often. Mom & I watch TH-cam every day, we don't even have TV anymore. Before, on my slow laptop, I'd open a few tabs of videos while keeping home open so we can binge, but the queue helps so much with that.
I was wondering, will we (or can we already) see analytics about how viewers use the queue feature with our own uploads? It would be nice to see if anyone puts my own videos into a queue to binge with other videos, or multiple of my my own videos. Maybe how often my videos are added to a queue & if engagement with the video (likes/shares/comments/etc) increase or decrease when videos are in a queue. Maybe how many times multiples of my videos are added to the same queue too.
Thank you; this is very informative. I study my analytics daily to try to decipher "the code" LOL. I will definitely be checking out your other videos in this series since I have sooooooooooooo many questions!!!!
Suggestion to help viewers and creators - fix the thumbnail size of the suggested videos to be the same as the home feed. This will help viewers to see thumbnails properly, and it will help creators benefit from this change too.
"Creator Insider" deleting comments. Ironic.
This stuff is really interesting, its a total lottery I find my videos seem to build momentum over time, Thanks for the content🛠
Well done 👍 really interesting insight into discovery and audience behaviour - I got a lot out of this video! Cheers 🙂
Thanks for sharing the behind the scenes information. You answered some of my questions. I had video go from 800+ views an hour over weeks to 20 views an hour. This happened in a one hour increment in one day. Very confusing.