@MorleyKert - I loved your video and the story. But I thought the final piece was lame 🤣 My discomfort was vindicated on this video here, ha ha ha. Cheers everyone!
You should do more of these types of vids. Adding your expertise in showing how a real prototype product could be improved & viably produced using 3d printing and joining the dots for others who may have similar ideas but no practical experience in bringing the product to fruition from a production perspective.
I just watched Morley's video as well. It's honestly really cool to see you take another idea and run with it. Two great youtubers giving out valuable information for free.
fantastic video. I watched Morley's video and although it was a great first step, there was so much room for improvement. What you've showcase is a product that has engineering knowledge behind it. I think this is the perfect collaboration between Slant3D and Morley. The artist and engineer coming together. I hope you can keep collaborating to make this a real product for sale!
Videos like this where you explain designing for the 3D printing process are your best content. Also i think I'd install a small metal plate as a skidplate where the part would scrape the ground.
Every Slant 3D video of recent memory: Genuinely insightful take on some other 3D printed project --> self promo of your "giant print farm" with the same stock footage --> some more useful insights not tryna hate but fr consider the feedback that the content isn't just about iterating on other people's designs - much preferred the older style of content with actual tips / tricks. Could be even cool to see you guys go through your own design process for OC rather than remixing or iterating other designs. I am by now aware you have a giant print farm business as you have mentioned it a billion times.
Haha the whole time I was watching his video I was thinking that the design was begging to be refined by someone like you, the little flimsy kickstand and wheel holders were driving me crazy
Video is amazing, I appreciate that you shared the knowledge this way, especially bc I saw Morley's video first, and it is nice to follow the story by seeing Morley's idea come to life and then the optimization you did. Great job both of you.
Reminds me of the one time I was trying my neighbors segue, and I rode it backwards by mistake, and took a turn, which made it go the opposite way, and I bit it
@@ZT_1234 and i'd be willing to bet segways are significantly safer than onewheels. if the battery dies or the computer crashes the nose of the thing will dig into the ground and send your face into the cement
Great Video Gabe! When I saw Morley’s video I liked the idea and his storytelling but wished his design was better optimized for 3D printing. I knew I would have taken a different approach than him and you executed perfectly. If only he showed an optimized version like this in the video… I think it would have done a lot to improve the attitude towards 3D printing.
This video was epic. Morley had s grest original shkwing awesome effort and fsilires snd redesigns but the sbility to think about madd producibility and increasing strength is eye opening
Luggage wheels for them were actually "invented" back in 2018, called "The Glider", but it didn't sell because if you have a onewheel, you don't walk, you ride it.
Wow, never knew that! I went down the rabbit hole and it looks like the inventor was 3D printing them. Self manufacturing "became too much to handle" so a Kickstarter was created for injection molding but did not get funded. This product really is a great candidate for a 3D printing farm.
Nice improvements with the raft and central axle, but you still have shearing and bending forces across layer lines with FDM. The optimal solution would be to use something like MJF printing. No need for supports, and layer lines are melted together. If he’s going to outsource the production anyways, might as well use a larger manufacturer like xometry that can produce higher quality parts than a print farm. 👍
Only gripe I have is saying that the single thru axle would be cheaper. Scrounging around on mcmaster there is a double ended threaded rod, 6516K265, which looks about the right size where with two lock nuts is $8.23. Two standard bolt/nuts in the same size, like 91257A628, would be $1.03 for a set of 2. Standard size hardware gets mass produced millions at a time in high speed forging presses and get huge cost reduction from economy of scale. There just isn't enough demand and the excess material of having a single axle just makes it way more expensive. You could still keep the added support material in the middle and use standard hardware with a press in nut or thread insert that would be significantly cheaper than a long thru axle.
It would have been nice to see your refined model on actual an one wheel. What was great about Morley's video is the constant iterations and refining to get to the end result. Testing what worked and what could be improved on. Did you test the PETG strength for how this model would be used? Morley mentioned PETG and did all his prototyping with it and you saw the material give out multiple times. Maybe the refined kickstand with more material and with thicker walls and cavities would do the trick but without testing its just an assumption. "Look at lot tougher" doesn't do much to actual prove its tougher.
A chunky part like that will have a lot of material supporting itself. Imagine where the old design would break- right across the thin leg part, put weight on it and it'll flex until it gives out because it's unsupported. Now imagine what it'd take to flex this part, even if it's printed super thin- it'll much more likely implode than snap, and implosions can be prevented by just adding more layers until it doesn't. That part in 5-6 walls will be rock solid.
Look- maybe I underestimate the amount of extra work or inefficiency of having multiple parts but I think if the kickstand was printed separate with a single hinge so that it would collapse while riding and nudge out while standing would be a better idea. However I also imagine magnets to keep it from rattling and now that’s way more complexity. But your design makes be more comfortable with the protrusion from the back.
My Onewheel is going to have 4 extra wheels. Maybe more. Two in the front to help save a nosedive and two in the back with this addon to make it roll when doing groseries.
Why do you need 2 wheels? You could have one large wheel and reduce the parts count and the complexity (I think it might even make it easier to carry around...) I have to say though, this is a really good design, love seeing how you make mass production 3d printing possible!
Hi Gabe, I noticed in the video you are offering Black PETG in the Shopify interface. I'm not seeing Black PETG in the ETSY interface, only White. Could you please let us know when / if this will happen.
Another good video! Quick question, I’ve been watching your videos for a while (great stuff!) and am pretty new to CAD/product design. What would be the best degree path for me to learn product design like these? Or what would be the best way if not a degree?
“Just 7 days to come up with that” better idea…. Scary to hear. TH-camrs and people like Morley got to get amazing patent lawyers if they want to keep inventing things
3:38 This is actually incorrect. The upper and lower flanges are actually the strong parts. They're also in the optimal locations for taking compression and tension forces. The rib in-between is really only there to keep the two together. Not that it really matters in this case, just spreading knowledge.
It is to keep the other two apart in order increase the structural moment of inertia. I-beams are a 1 dimensional solution. Tubes are a 2 dimensional solution.
Wasn't the reason for the expensive material so that it would stand up to the weight of the one wheel? Saving cost with a different material is great but if it then breaks after a month of use it doesn't do a whole lot of good.
But why do you need 2 wheels? one should be more than enough. Is not as wide as a carry on to need an extra wheel, especially since the weigh is already fixed and distributed. Wheelbarrows work fine wit just one.
Completely off topic, but how would a mass production print farm such as slant go about slicing prints? Surely the customers wouldnt do it and risk breaking something, and it would also be un practical to have someone at the farm sitting there slicing hundreds to thousands of prints a day
I watched his video and entire video thought why didn’t he unscrew the bolts below and put his one ones that includes the 3d printed part and he won’t have to buy these foot pads that cost a lot and the one wheel has to be modified for that
5:15 Why is there fire‽ Why is it on fire?! And that one just says broke! (like me) KEKW I do kind of wonder why he didn't just design the thing like this in the first place, even if just to make it print easier; tho I suppose he was probably trying to limit the material usage given the cost of it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
He did a really poor job of fitting up to that curved surface, probably negatively affecting the entire product. I think it's fit to the onewheel is critical to prevent part failures in the field
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Awesome innovation! So many great nuggets about designing strong parts for 3D printing. You give me lots to think about 😊
wow, you are fast
Thanks Morley. Glad it was helpful
@@slant3d should be pined!
@MorleyKert - I loved your video and the story. But I thought the final piece was lame 🤣 My discomfort was vindicated on this video here, ha ha ha. Cheers everyone!
Make a collab and sell that thing 👍🏼
You should do more of these types of vids. Adding your expertise in showing how a real prototype product could be improved & viably produced using 3d printing and joining the dots for others who may have similar ideas but no practical experience in bringing the product to fruition from a production perspective.
Working on it
Dude, FANTASTIC work on this one!
Thanks Joel
I just watched Morley's video as well. It's honestly really cool to see you take another idea and run with it. Two great youtubers giving out valuable information for free.
Awesome! Thank you!
Awesome recovery from the last venture with Morley. I am impressed. Way to show case both his idea and Slant's abilities.
fantastic video. I watched Morley's video and although it was a great first step, there was so much room for improvement. What you've showcase is a product that has engineering knowledge behind it. I think this is the perfect collaboration between Slant3D and Morley. The artist and engineer coming together. I hope you can keep collaborating to make this a real product for sale!
That would be cool!
This is exactly why I love 3d printing. As I finish up my mech eng degree this is exactly the sort of stuff I wanna do
Videos like this where you explain designing for the 3D printing process are your best content. Also i think I'd install a small metal plate as a skidplate where the part would scrape the ground.
Every Slant 3D video of recent memory:
Genuinely insightful take on some other 3D printed project --> self promo of your "giant print farm" with the same stock footage --> some more useful insights
not tryna hate but fr consider the feedback that the content isn't just about iterating on other people's designs - much preferred the older style of content with actual tips / tricks. Could be even cool to see you guys go through your own design process for OC rather than remixing or iterating other designs. I am by now aware you have a giant print farm business as you have mentioned it a billion times.
PPA-CF is more expensive than you indicate since it is sold in 3/4 kilo spools, which makes it more like $135 a kilo.
Good Call
I love seeing your optimized takes on other products :)
Haha the whole time I was watching his video I was thinking that the design was begging to be refined by someone like you, the little flimsy kickstand and wheel holders were driving me crazy
Video is amazing, I appreciate that you shared the knowledge this way, especially bc I saw Morley's video first, and it is nice to follow the story by seeing Morley's idea come to life and then the optimization you did. Great job both of you.
Nice!! Innovation and business model in a single video package. 👍
Thanks
Just a heads up - The link in your description to Morley's video links to the 0:44 timestamp, rather than the beginning of the video
Very clever way of teaching new stuff. Love it!
Glad to hear it!
This was so informative, and reminded me of code reviews. I would love to see more videos like this. Awesome job!
Love this series of videos
Thanks for watching
And this is how you advertise your 3d printing farm! I legit didnt know you had a shoppify plugin and all that! Do more of these type of plug ins :)
Etsy and Shopify done! Thanks
Nice job on this one. Came out looking good too, which matters for a product like this.
Love this video! You guys are mad in the best way.
Great feedback on that part! Clean design.
That was quite helpful. Thanks for the video. Hope for more content like that! :)
I love this channel, so much great info, much appreciated! 💯% valuable content! And very nice presentation :D
I love what you are teaching. thanks for the vid.
My pleasure!
Don't have a one wheel, nor a need for it, but happily watched both episodes nonetheless. Good job both MorleyKert and Slant 3D !!!
Great video. I hope you do more like this
colab with Morley! This was a solid video on what it takes to grow as a designer.
These style of videos are great.
That fuzzy skin version is niiice!
one wheels are my favorite tooth removal device
Reminds me of the one time I was trying my neighbors segue, and I rode it backwards by mistake, and took a turn, which made it go the opposite way, and I bit it
@@ZT_1234 and i'd be willing to bet segways are significantly safer than onewheels. if the battery dies or the computer crashes the nose of the thing will dig into the ground and send your face into the cement
Great Video Gabe! When I saw Morley’s video I liked the idea and his storytelling but wished his design was better optimized for 3D printing. I knew I would have taken a different approach than him and you executed perfectly. If only he showed an optimized version like this in the video… I think it would have done a lot to improve the attitude towards 3D printing.
This video was epic. Morley had s grest original shkwing awesome effort and fsilires snd redesigns but the sbility to think about madd producibility and increasing strength is eye opening
Super cool video would love to see Morley sale these
honestly been waiting for this video.
Luggage wheels for them were actually "invented" back in 2018, called "The Glider", but it didn't sell because if you have a onewheel, you don't walk, you ride it.
Wow, never knew that! I went down the rabbit hole and it looks like the inventor was 3D printing them. Self manufacturing "became too much to handle" so a Kickstarter was created for injection molding but did not get funded. This product really is a great candidate for a 3D printing farm.
Love the work :) Keep it up!!! I love it when you revise other's products like that---Simone Giertz and Morley's :)
Fascinating video well done!
I like this channel very educational and exciting 😂
Love these vids 🤙💪
Thanks for watchin
Ok, that was informative. Thanks.
No problem!
Nice improvements with the raft and central axle, but you still have shearing and bending forces across layer lines with FDM. The optimal solution would be to use something like MJF printing. No need for supports, and layer lines are melted together. If he’s going to outsource the production anyways, might as well use a larger manufacturer like xometry that can produce higher quality parts than a print farm. 👍
could you please make a video on designing book marks for 3d printing???
Only gripe I have is saying that the single thru axle would be cheaper. Scrounging around on mcmaster there is a double ended threaded rod, 6516K265, which looks about the right size where with two lock nuts is $8.23. Two standard bolt/nuts in the same size, like 91257A628, would be $1.03 for a set of 2. Standard size hardware gets mass produced millions at a time in high speed forging presses and get huge cost reduction from economy of scale. There just isn't enough demand and the excess material of having a single axle just makes it way more expensive.
You could still keep the added support material in the middle and use standard hardware with a press in nut or thread insert that would be significantly cheaper than a long thru axle.
You forgot to optimize out the board itself 😊. Oh, and add taillights and a spot to add a rope so you can drag it around… the list goes on.
It would have been nice to see your refined model on actual an one wheel. What was great about Morley's video is the constant iterations and refining to get to the end result. Testing what worked and what could be improved on. Did you test the PETG strength for how this model would be used? Morley mentioned PETG and did all his prototyping with it and you saw the material give out multiple times. Maybe the refined kickstand with more material and with thicker walls and cavities would do the trick but without testing its just an assumption. "Look at lot tougher" doesn't do much to actual prove its tougher.
This, need a short on it installed on a OW
Tangled Testing Channel - coming soon.
A chunky part like that will have a lot of material supporting itself. Imagine where the old design would break- right across the thin leg part, put weight on it and it'll flex until it gives out because it's unsupported. Now imagine what it'd take to flex this part, even if it's printed super thin- it'll much more likely implode than snap, and implosions can be prevented by just adding more layers until it doesn't. That part in 5-6 walls will be rock solid.
Could you use printed wheels as support, i.e. print them in place? Maybe just throw in a little interface material.
What are the settings for fuzzy skin you used? It looks very clean
Look- maybe I underestimate the amount of extra work or inefficiency of having multiple parts but I think if the kickstand was printed separate with a single hinge so that it would collapse while riding and nudge out while standing would be a better idea. However I also imagine magnets to keep it from rattling and now that’s way more complexity. But your design makes be more comfortable with the protrusion from the back.
That's a good looking part. How much material did it use? Thanks for the video.
Well done 👍🏻
Thank you! Cheers!
When I watched his original video I was actually thinking of how you would do this
you can totally change the infill for a portion of a model in orcaslicer
is that texturized skin the "fuzzy skin" option?
Great job
Thanks
Float on my dude.
Say more about how to get the textured finish on all sides... I've never seen that before.
Awesome!!
Is a onewheel really a onewheel if it has extra wheels? What if your onewheel stand had one wheel?
Onewheel (and friends)
My Onewheel is going to have 4 extra wheels. Maybe more. Two in the front to help save a nosedive and two in the back with this addon to make it roll when doing groseries.
how is the texture added to the 3d print at the end?
id say a good idea would be to have the very end of the kickstand be a separate part. so it can replaced without reprinting everything
Why do you need 2 wheels? You could have one large wheel and reduce the parts count and the complexity (I think it might even make it easier to carry around...)
I have to say though, this is a really good design, love seeing how you make mass production 3d printing possible!
Balance when being a stand
Would prefer to purchase the stand, wheels, and required hardware all in one order.
Hi Gabe, I noticed in the video you are offering Black PETG in the Shopify interface. I'm not seeing Black PETG in the ETSY interface, only White. Could you please let us know when / if this will happen.
Should be up there now. There was a propagation delay on a few shops. Shoot us a message at info@slant3d.com if it isn't popping up yet
Another good video! Quick question, I’ve been watching your videos for a while (great stuff!) and am pretty new to CAD/product design. What would be the best degree path for me to learn product design like these? Or what would be the best way if not a degree?
Industrial design or mechanical engineering
@@slant3d thanks! I was looking at going back to school for Mech E so I’ll look into that more.
in before Morley comments...
Hey Morely :D
Great vid as always, any plans to offer ASA in your service?
Spoilers. PETG is now available!
Solid
This is a cool multipurpose vid, you're a smart guy.
(Ego boost comment 😂)
This is awesome. Now make it a product and take all my money, please
The stand's contact area with the floor could be a bit wider. I found that it tips a bit too easily to the sides on the base design.
Awesomeness! Can you add a little cubbyhole for spliffs?
Another great video! What are the economics of selling a product like this through your print farm? How are cost of goods sold determined?
Upload a file and the cost to make it is instantly quoted based on the material and the design. You can price from there
Just out of curiosity: Does your design have accurate measurements ? If so how did you get it right ? I assume you dont have a OneWheel...
Ahh. He uploaded the file to printables. @Gabe I am loving the Videos
Love it!
Thanks!!
“Just 7 days to come up with that” better idea…. Scary to hear. TH-camrs and people like Morley got to get amazing patent lawyers if they want to keep inventing things
Awesome tipps :-)
Glad it was helpful!
Any plans for a Squarespace plugin?
Right now we have to take care of the Shopify and the Etsy Plugin Users. The API is open and free so other developers can make one for squarespace
Yeah, what they said...."Do more vidoes like this" 👏👏👏👍👍👍
Update: And may I add that is one sexy smooth print 🤤🤤🤤
Isnt Bambu PPA-CF $100 for 3/4 of a kilogram? Pretty sure thats what i paid, unless theyve changed the price recently.
Drop the STL?
Morley just wanted a license with OneWheel. Didn't need to work 😂
3:38 This is actually incorrect. The upper and lower flanges are actually the strong parts. They're also in the optimal locations for taking compression and tension forces. The rib in-between is really only there to keep the two together. Not that it really matters in this case, just spreading knowledge.
It is to keep the other two apart in order increase the structural moment of inertia. I-beams are a 1 dimensional solution. Tubes are a 2 dimensional solution.
Wasn't the reason for the expensive material so that it would stand up to the weight of the one wheel? Saving cost with a different material is great but if it then breaks after a month of use it doesn't do a whole lot of good.
It's kinda funny, how these creator-vloggers make something, and Slant just redoes it AND provides the manufacturing capability.
kinda know this video is coming
TPU wheels print in place 🤷♂. (One peach one print😂)
But why do you need 2 wheels? one should be more than enough. Is not as wide as a carry on to need an extra wheel, especially since the weigh is already fixed and distributed. Wheelbarrows work fine wit just one.
nice design. problem with onewheel is something else, they are a very scummy company and should not be supported in any way.
Explain?
@@keith3761 see what Louis rosmann had to say about them
Stl?
you could've shown it in action
i wonder why he didn't just buy longer bolts and just bolt it into the one wheel, instead of fiddling with magnet and unreliable connection./
Completely off topic, but how would a mass production print farm such as slant go about slicing prints? Surely the customers wouldnt do it and risk breaking something, and it would also be un practical to have someone at the farm sitting there slicing hundreds to thousands of prints a day
I watched his video and entire video thought why didn’t he unscrew the bolts below and put his one ones that includes the 3d printed part and he won’t have to buy these foot pads that cost a lot and the one wheel has to be modified for that
I take it you did not actually have a onewheel to attach it to to actually show the improved product in use?
as a process engineer with over a decade worth of experience, I can agree that producing this with injection molding would be a horrible choice.
5:15 Why is there fire‽ Why is it on fire?! And that one just says broke! (like me) KEKW
I do kind of wonder why he didn't just design the thing like this in the first place, even if just to make it print easier; tho I suppose he was probably trying to limit the material usage given the cost of it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Why dont you 3D print your filament spools? Is it inefficient to mass produce 3D printed filament spools?
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Thanks
He did a really poor job of fitting up to that curved surface, probably negatively affecting the entire product. I think it's fit to the onewheel is critical to prevent part failures in the field