The Machine (definitive edition) starring Eren Yar, Danny Morris and Clarissa Thibeaux. Directed by Michael C. Poole. Written by Michael C. Poole and Jason Lethert. Dated 201206272303
The old man warned him about "not feeling the weather" from the beginning. I thought that was funny. I would have asked him right then "what?" lol. But he wasn't paying attention to him at that time.
The elevator operator stole the show. He was phenomenal !!! And his acting was so spot on that I felt like he was more real than my roommates. I aspire to find my way into a Time Travel movie and be a philosophical elevator operator just like him. No worries about paradoxes or meeting your previous self and having a deadly, universe ending, gun fight. Instead, the Universe is neatly distilled into only going up and down and only between the 1st and 2nd floor. As a side note, I also liked the scene where they were at the beach and there were two green screens. I may use that in an upcoming project presentation on What can happen when your budget gets suddenly cut and why you should practice the Agile principles for software development. Thanks!!!
Hey I'm sorry for chiming in so long after your comment, but I really loved your comment. The Elevator Operator was one of my favorite moments in filmmaking; we had just posted a casting call (for a short we were producing in our spare time - you can see a few shots aren't even finished with vfx); in walks this older gentleman and sits down. The elevator sequences were part of my addition to the script, I had created the character, and I knew it was a little "weird", so I asked him if there was anything he wanted to know, and he said "no" - hesaid he 'got it', he thought he knew exactly what we were going for. I was kinda shocked. I felt it was so weird (keep in mind, actors were only given 'sides'- just brief bits of the script the character was in); but he was confident and so I just went with it. As we started the reading, literally like one or two lines in I was like "holy ship, this IS the guy" and was immediately regretful of having doubted his read on the character. Terrence Burke - at the time, I was just wow'ed that such a talented man liked my script. Soon, I found out that he was a regular actor at the Coronado Playhouse here in San Diego; this was a Shakespearian actor having fun in his free time, lending his dramatic heft to our little home made sci-fi short. It was truly a highlight for me, and in my next project I was able to bring him back and team him up with another San Dieogo Shakespearian actor and the two of them just killed it, another top memory from my filmmaking days. So again, I appreciate your comment and thought I'd give a little background; my friend Mike Poole wrote the original story and shared it w/me when we were working together on another local SD film; I said it was great but too long (like 30 pgs); but I also noted how it's really two or three diff stories; so why not cut them up into the individual stories (youtube or 'online' series were becoming a 'thing'); so I said make it 3 chapters, I have ideas to add/flesh-out whats there, and so I wrote I think a 3 episode script. As we started filming I talked to Mike and pitched the full movie - a series of "episodes" that would add up to about a hundred minutes that we could re-cut into a continuous film. Boom! Greenlit! We were into prod at that time. A while later, over a Memorial Day wknd, I wrote about 7 more chapters and tied it all together as a full movie arc. I had some REALLY fun/crazy stuff planned. But I had a full feature length screenplay that explained everything - even why the Old Man has an eye-patch. The production team fell apart late into filming of Ep 2 (again, 3 were written and many more were being written); but I had so much planned out, several of the Old Man's weird lines would make sense at the end of the movie. And btw - if you like the old guy at all, I can tell you a bit about him - he came from Mike, when I came on board, Mike was already casting (I think all 3 primary leads were already cast), and by the time I was there, we were doing rehearsals - which was tricky, I had just sold Mike on those script re-writes. But the actors seemed to appreciate the additional story and characterization. Every day of my life I'll be a little more bummed we never committed to finishing this - I had ideas that were low budget but would be a grand palate of story, and fun crazy stuff! I got to do more straight up sci-fi with my next project, but I'll never forget or stop lamenting The Machine. Had we done all 7 chapters, the Elevator Operator would have returned!
@@HeroJournalism I am sorry to hear everything fell through. You would have had a lot of fans with this series. At least one in me.😊 maybe some time you could hash out in writing what the plot and outcome would have been so we could have some closure. Thank you for at least trying to make this series work. From a fan of scifi and time travel especially.
It's always weird to see a movie that was filmed somewhere that you've been. It's like "I've stood where hes' standing." "I've walked where he's walking."
Bold! Uploading incomplete definitive version?? Incomplete is worse than an F! I’ll keep a eye out for, definitive part II...or would that be part III? I wish I could go back in time and....
As others have commented, the elevator dude's acting was really good. And the old bearded man. Of course the protagonist and sidekick weren't shabby. It was cool to see the semi-finished film with green screen still present. Really makes one appreciate actors' abilities. I hope that all films don't start doing this, as it would get old quickly.
If I had a time machine I'd go back and stop at the first episode. Would've rather left it a mystery then seen the sequel. That's time I'll never get back.
I think it had promise... It doesn't appear to be finished due to the green screen stuff. But, how I would have changed it would be where the old man realized that he had to hand over the keys to someone new and he just picked him for some reason. Once they unlocked the door, it could have been their apartment was the control room.
First, the GOOD news - the outdoor conversation scenes on the bench are stunningly, beautifully shot, and really well played... The BAD news - I regret to say... is everything else! The bench conversation is intriguing... there IS a good story there waiting to be developed, but to present an unfinished story about time travel, and waste some viewers time in the process, is going too far! KAN 8.19 UK
Keith - the "good" you mention was already released, it was "episode 1"; I imagine if you'd watched THAT video instead, according to your above comments you'd have loved it. Unfortunately, the series was cancelled in the middle of chapter 2 - it was regrettable, the production crew and talent were LOVING what we were doing, we were literally getting some praise (after toiling in pre-internet self-made films that either didn't ever finish or were dismissed upon completion); the day it was cancelled was one of my biggest creative disappointments, it was a sledge hammer to the face. It was one of the worst moments I've ever had in film or writing. However, since we had filmed much of ep 2 (and I think a scant bit of ep 3), and since some of the cast and crew on ep 2 never had any of their work seen the light of day, and since it was cancelled they never would - I lobbied to release a cut including the last footage we filmed, which you see above - if you scan the comments on this video, you'll see many people commenting on how they liked the Elevator Operator - he wasn't in ep 1 at all; and as a creator, regardless if it was cancelled, I felt it was a CRIME to not bring those actor performances and filmmaking efforts to light, since many of them were volunteering their time, and on an indie project, "credit" is the main thing you get, so if it gets cancelled and no one ever sees it, the "one" thing you were hoping to get, you don't get. So the "definitive cut" was released; only about 12 min more than the 18 min ep 1 (ep 1 was too long, I'll admit that), including some interesting scenes/concepts we'd filmed that were all greenscreen (because it'd been cancelled, obviously no one was doing more greenscreen replacement). So if one clicks onto it expecting the continuing story we meant it to be (and that I wrote to continue to a dozen episodes), I can see how you'd be bummed at the diluting of f/x and narrative direction. It's a bummer. So, sorry man, I'm sorry we wasted your time, that's the ultimate insult to creator and I don't take it likely - but I'm glad we at least "got ya" on some of the early stuff. Drama is hard to do, and despite your overall position, I really appreciate your initial comments.
LOTT by: Spike Lee 1. all time streams must be kept linear 2. you must not interfere in your own personal history 3. never engage in circular theory 4. always do the right thing
LOL, I love that you commented this - I'll admit it was me that added Spike Lee to the conversation; we had been discussing the sci-fi implications of the plot over and over and the original script at a moment where he said "you'll do the right thing", and so I thought that a cynical reference from the kid would work - and personally I believed in the underlying concept; we had set up these rules but also the possibility that we might break them, and I thought "do the right thing" is a great way to keep the characters in check; no matter how much power they wield in future episodes over the timeline, it's great that there is one moral code overseeing their efforts. It reminded me of my Christian upbringing but to take the idea and expresses it as a 90s kid that knew Spike Lee - I just effing loved it
I enjoyed and applaud this. With all the "unfinished things", that's pretty much how life in general is :-D Beautiful idea and well done to its extent!!
Back home in another universe and/or dimension. Everything is the same and at the same time, everything is different. The green screens that the camera showed as the two visitors explored 2013 is meant to say to the audience that anything can be. In otherwords, the weather displays we see on the teleivision (or computer news that I watch) are not really behind the weather person. He or she is actually standing in front of a blank wall, or screen, much like these that the two young adults were standing in front of, just blank green walls.
@@andrewjohnson6716 - no prob, I didn't mean to sound prickly - totally appreciate your watching and commenting, and don't take that as a admonishment, feel free to comment, whether critical or not, all feedback is welcome and encouraged! Thanks for giving it a chance, sir!
@@andrewjohnson6716 - can I ask? Maybe I'm having a misfiring synapse because your comment about the crow sounds familiar but is that a reference to Odin? Or is it another literary reference? Mike Poole created the character of the old man, including the eye patch - later I added to the mythology of the character (unfortunately most of that was never realized), but I will fully admit I hadn't made any connection to Odin, though Mike might've intended it when he wrote the original short and it just never came up as we developed the character. I'm a firm believer in that all fiction is built upon previous fiction, so it could've been a 'thing', and certainly hats off to you for seeing some sympolism that even one of the creators like me did not! Very cool, sir
@@HeroJournalism I completely agree with that. I've heard that referred to as "protomyths". We seem to have primordial stories, concepts, and characters that recur again and again throughout cultures and ages. The Germanic and Norse tribes of western and northern Europe have had many variations of "The Wanderer" that shared the aspects of appearing elderly, lame or crippled in some way, usually with a staff, and having deep relationships with wolves and/or crows. Odin, Othan, Wodan, Woden, or Wotan.
We actually DID plan for a feature length movie; being 'bootstraps filmmakers', there was always a constant push and pull between "make something short for the internet" and "make a feature length film"; after reading the early draft of the script, I said "why not do BOTH?" we'll make a serialized chapter-by-chapter story that we can re-cut into a feature!" Because a LOT of crews around San Diego were making shorts at the time; but everyone seemed to know that there wasn't much payoff in that. so the idea was that "well shorts are easier to make," but once we've got like 7 of them we can re-cut it into a feature. It was a bit grandiose, we were kinda filming in our backyards but damn did we push to make as much as we could to have it be sci-fi we would respect ourselves, so I really appreciate that you liked it
He skipped the first few pages because he knows that book is rubbish. And the best line in this film is "Always do the right thing, what you know to be right".
Come on men, 2011 is released the first one: great concept. 03 years later you release the "definitive" version without Chroma Key stuffs, audio and a decent ending? Lets face the facts: the actors are great, the story is awesome and even the elevator guy does an overwhelming job. Try to finish this video for real. Please. Don't blow it.
Yeah I don't know what's up that filmmaker. Do you think he died of working a low-wage job or something? Or did some old guy come and give *him' a key LOL
The story had so much potential, even the green parts, and the "214" label, but after a while it became weirder and weirder. The story doesn't make sense to me.
I'm sorry guys. As co-producer, it was me and Mike, we fucked it up. It should've been awesome, and the actors were fantastic for it. There WAS a plan.
I don't blame you; we fucked it up from the get-go - I just want to say there was a PLAN - I wrote a140 page script, it made now difference, it's the same story
Did you guys ever make a film of you going to the house the old man was talking about? And he says it is self sufficient. Meaning, you live there and everything stays in good shape and replenished. And a house that has the ultimate privacy. Only the door is seen. But I am sure it could all be seen if you wanted it to. Will that be your next film?
I hope you are able to finish this properly. The story has merit, and plenty of scope. I'm assuming you've run out of money to complete it. Shame, it was just warming up.
UNFINISHED...don’t waste your time unless you own your own “time machine” that you can zip forward in time until you get to the year when this film is finally completed.
Does everyone else just see the green screens too am puzzled why just shows studio lights then the green screens like that plus sound cuts out few times was looking forward to it at first part was interesting then this just seems all messed up and mixed up
I see the green screen problem, it's common. Using a crop of the scene will put a border on top and bottom of the screen, but will cut the views of equipment. The split screen has to be proportional, so use green screen frame and put it outside on least windy day. If when sun is high, bring a bright work light as to define sun position over the shoulder, but both people must be outside for the take. I also understand that the sound is cut out to take away noise. You can hide tie clip mics and wireless transmitter in your wardrobe, and record straight to laptop. Also you might add tracks of ambiance for "setting the scene" and adding spec emotional trigger music. Music is the same structure as storyline with peaks and denumau, but the cincopation is precedent before action for hightened stimulus effect. There are apps to use for background effects and the door effect was interesting (I liked it), but you can film a scene backdrop for the green screen, but match camera action with green screen or you'll have noticable background wobble. Repeated camera motions for multiple incorporated FX (ie. Background, objects in motion or pixelated fx, then characters, combine all vid tracks but proper timing!) In my personal opinion, the outside air at the end was cut too soon to hear description, and I'd offer advice of spray snow if you wanted to sustain a belief of separate demension.
All great suggestions, I can tell you know your shiz, and thank you for watching. Admittedly, the series was too ambitious for what we and our crew could handle and that's why it was unfinished, but we loved some of the drama and concepts we got to play with; looks paltry today perhaps, but in the early 2010s it was a little audacious. Thank you so much for your thoughtful feedback and suggestions
Oh do you mean the old man with the eye-patch? OK, NOW I get it!!!!!!! Still, love your comment - I loved working with him, he was an amazing guy despite his advanced age, he actually worked in the FBI under J Edgar Hoover! He passed on after we filmed this and I'm so bummed at missing out on the stories he could've told.
The old man looks like he JUST DM'd a LONG LONG campaign......Also at 20:42 I really wanted to know what would happen with the 'tenants' if he had pulled the fire alarm?
I love the way you think! When I wrote that line about the "tenants", the building was clearly a nexus of crazy stuff going on, so are the "tenants" aware? are they other travellers? And the old man - we LOVED him so much, he was the most weary traveler you'll ever find as an actor. Amazing guy and we put him through hell with all this time travel jargon we came up with. And he never flinched, he just dove in. Thanks so much for your feedback
@@Luthiart - We previously released "chapter 1" and were working on chapter 2, and had a script for about 13 or 14 chapters in total, which in total would reach a full feature length movie which we'd thought to re-cut without the chapter breaks as a feature; but alas, most people on the prod were contributing out of charity, some of the actors got a small stipend, but it was still basically a volunteer project and unfortunately, as a volunteer project we just couldn't keep it going when key people started to pull out. Chapter 1 was already released, but after the project was cancelled, the director Mike Poole released this cut of Ep 1 and 2, and additional footage from ep 3 (though much from 2 and 3 was unfinished f/x shots). It was an attempt to get a little more of the narrative out there so fans that liked the first ep could've had a taste of where it was going. But I get it - it certainly is unfinished and I wouldn't argue with you about that - thanks for giving it a chance and I hope you saw a glimmer of what the drama we tried to do, but if not, no worries, I always appreciate feedback, good or bad. Take care, buddies!
It looked like you had a deadline to make, so you hastily uploaded it before the project was complete. Great concept. But three quarters through the film I lost interest. Maybe next time eh! E for effort lol
I'm sorry about that; we filmed ep 1 and were in middle of ep 2 when it was cancelled (though had filmed a little of ep 3 before it got cancelled); so for fans of ep 1, we just combined everything from 2/3 we had filmed to give them a taste of where it was going. Sorry, man - it's all on us, we didn't reach the finish line.
Oh, maybe I didn't make it clear - in the idea of just adding whatever we had, even if unfinished - several shots had no audio. Again, sorry, not what I wanted to present
I get it, Curt - I really am sorry we didn't "make the grade". Listen, it was a crazy concept - the original creator Mike wanted to make "an American Dr. Who"; but we were on NO budget. He did some special f/x and so we started with that and built outwards but as we went on I think to service the story, it just required too MUCH of the f/x; and when people started to cancel out of the project, it was a cascading effect. But I understand your disappointment - I wrote a 150 pg screenplay detailing the adventure and as a time travel story - the ultimate ouroboros narrative, and I even wrote it so it could be done low cost production style but when others torpedoed the project during ep 2, we were stuck. It was never gonna make the grade
Time travel is only possible between dimensions so you can only change the future of some other you or some other world .while your world will remain the same or you won't never go back to your world .It's the multiverse universe. I Have done it practically accidentally (the time traveling through multiverse) . One day after I slept in the sleep and after I woke up in the morning I had memories of myself . As well as some memories of past which never happened also some memories which was going to happen in the next 10days. But there were only fractions of it no complete memory.and some random voices about warnings and stay alert. But it never happened afterwords. So I don't think sending a whole person in time in different timeline is possible. But one can send messages and thoughts only fractions of it in a timeline of some other you . So every bit of information mat not be right but will be enough to alter his timeline e.
Ikr. And this was how I found out aliens were homophobic. I was abducted once, and not one of those bastards wanted to probe me, no matter how much I begged. And I know they do it to everybody else they abduct. So the only logical conclusion is that they are extremely homophobic. Ofcourse they wipe your memory, but I sent myself a copy of what happened just like you explained before they wiped me. That's how I know about it. I'm gonna get them all fired.
When did others writed DO NOT WASTED YOURS TIME they were being right. You will be leted down by this video, it haves no ending and others negatives. Sound does dropped off at diffrenter places. Visible green screens all over the place for visuals manipulations which cand be good for making ofed movies but they should not be left ined the movie. The movie is left very incompleted and really is not very a good job doned any ways, IFED this is maked by colleged ages persons. Ifed it was done by high schooler kids then it is pretty good technicals but still the story is left un doned!! The video is marked as being fromed 2014, FIVE years old all ready so ifed do you intend for a finish to it better you geted off your butts and do it. Other wise ifed this was mine I would be embarrassed for showing it more any. "(definitive edition)"? More liked the crappy edition. IS this acshully supposed to be a movie or just a demonstrative video for videos making? OK only I am at 14 but even do I see too many faults! I gaved it a 4 ofed 10
What I wanted to say with the 18-minute one: "Well, that was quite the cliffhanger! Nice film." What I want to say for this one, "Why don't you finish the movie!!! The actors are pretty decent (when it counts), why don't you get someone to do your CGI already!! Or use "clever cinematic devices" to bypass CGI altogether! OMG LOL we're all dying here :) BTW Is it really hot in 2013?
You only get one chance to make a first impression, and you used your chance to waste part of my life with this unfinished cr@p. You will not get a second chance.
Oh, I might add too, that the writer knows nothing about how time works. Don't know what nonsense he as read, but I think he should get into the real stuff. You can't go back in time, because the world has moved on and is no longer is there and you can't go into the future as nothing has yet to exist. Video is is not creepy, just crappy.
Read what Kurt Vonnegut wrote in his book "Slaughterhouse Five" at the beginning of the video. Time is not physical. If you make the effort to think and contemplate "time", you will come to the conclusion yourself that going forward or backward in time is not possible. But on the other hand, you can go back in time, sort of, it's called "memory". With memory you can speculate on or about what the future may be, but to actually getting there, is not possible. And if you think more deeply about it, just for the sake of argument, if there was supposedly time travel, it can only be done as a one person thing. Time travel cannot be done by two or more people trying to get to the same place, (or even the same time), because each individual has different views, thoughts, memories, and experiences of what happened in the past. So rather than write me and calling me confused and what have you, why not just take the time and think about and contemplate time travel and if you think it's possible or not. And if not, why? And if so, how?
I think the machine is spread across California (like over the beach etc) and nobody sees it because it is in a dimension which is not X, Y, or Z. That is why they can be in the building, on the beach, and yet nobody feels or sees it on the beach. Just a thought.
Kathy Lynne You say going forward in time is not possible, yet we're going forward in time at this very instant. We're travelling int the future right now, one second at a time. Also, in physics there's no limitation on time travel whatsoever. The more an object's speed approaches the speed of light, the slower time flows for that object and he travels into the future. It's called time dilation and it has been studied and measured experimentally.
Pray to Jesus and your desires will be met. Other than that, do you wanna go out and tear up the town?! ...We could do lots of wholesome shopping and then drop some ACID!!!
Is this suppose to be great as understood by millennials? Appears to be a joke, all the people who worked on the video, duh doing what? I believe this to be a really bad joke and I don't care if it hurts your feelings or if you are emotionally damaged by my candor. Go to tech school and learn plumbing or electrical something useful.
Can I time travel back to before I watch this movie
The old man warned him about "not feeling the weather" from the beginning. I thought that was funny. I would have asked him right then "what?" lol. But he wasn't paying attention to him at that time.
The elevator operator stole the show. He was phenomenal !!! And his acting was so spot on that I felt like he was more real than my roommates. I aspire to find my way into a Time Travel movie and be a philosophical elevator operator just like him. No worries about paradoxes or meeting your previous self and having a deadly, universe ending, gun fight. Instead, the Universe is neatly distilled into only going up and down and only between the 1st and 2nd floor. As a side note, I also liked the scene where they were at the beach and there were two green screens. I may use that in an upcoming project presentation on What can happen when your budget gets suddenly cut and why you should practice the Agile principles for software development. Thanks!!!
The elevator operator was the best part of the whole thing.
Hey I'm sorry for chiming in so long after your comment, but I really loved your comment. The Elevator Operator was one of my favorite moments in filmmaking; we had just posted a casting call (for a short we were producing in our spare time - you can see a few shots aren't even finished with vfx); in walks this older gentleman and sits down. The elevator sequences were part of my addition to the script, I had created the character, and I knew it was a little "weird", so I asked him if there was anything he wanted to know, and he said "no" - hesaid he 'got it', he thought he knew exactly what we were going for. I was kinda shocked. I felt it was so weird (keep in mind, actors were only given 'sides'- just brief bits of the script the character was in); but he was confident and so I just went with it. As we started the reading, literally like one or two lines in I was like "holy ship, this IS the guy" and was immediately regretful of having doubted his read on the character.
Terrence Burke - at the time, I was just wow'ed that such a talented man liked my script. Soon, I found out that he was a regular actor at the Coronado Playhouse here in San Diego; this was a Shakespearian actor having fun in his free time, lending his dramatic heft to our little home made sci-fi short. It was truly a highlight for me, and in my next project I was able to bring him back and team him up with another San Dieogo Shakespearian actor and the two of them just killed it, another top memory from my filmmaking days.
So again, I appreciate your comment and thought I'd give a little background; my friend Mike Poole wrote the original story and shared it w/me when we were working together on another local SD film; I said it was great but too long (like 30 pgs); but I also noted how it's really two or three diff stories; so why not cut them up into the individual stories (youtube or 'online' series were becoming a 'thing'); so I said make it 3 chapters, I have ideas to add/flesh-out whats there, and so I wrote I think a 3 episode script. As we started filming I talked to Mike and pitched the full movie - a series of "episodes" that would add up to about a hundred minutes that we could re-cut into a continuous film.
Boom! Greenlit! We were into prod at that time. A while later, over a Memorial Day wknd, I wrote about 7 more chapters and tied it all together as a full movie arc. I had some REALLY fun/crazy stuff planned. But I had a full feature length screenplay that explained everything - even why the Old Man has an eye-patch. The production team fell apart late into filming of Ep 2 (again, 3 were written and many more were being written); but I had so much planned out, several of the Old Man's weird lines would make sense at the end of the movie.
And btw - if you like the old guy at all, I can tell you a bit about him - he came from Mike, when I came on board, Mike was already casting (I think all 3 primary leads were already cast), and by the time I was there, we were doing rehearsals - which was tricky, I had just sold Mike on those script re-writes. But the actors seemed to appreciate the additional story and characterization. Every day of my life I'll be a little more bummed we never committed to finishing this - I had ideas that were low budget but would be a grand palate of story, and fun crazy stuff! I got to do more straight up sci-fi with my next project, but I'll never forget or stop lamenting The Machine. Had we done all 7 chapters, the Elevator Operator would have returned!
@@HeroJournalism I am sorry to hear everything fell through. You would have had a lot of fans with this series. At least one in me.😊 maybe some time you could hash out in writing what the plot and outcome would have been so we could have some closure. Thank you for at least trying to make this series work. From a fan of scifi and time travel especially.
It's always weird to see a movie that was filmed somewhere that you've been. It's like "I've stood where hes' standing." "I've walked where he's walking."
Which location did you recognize?
Bold! Uploading incomplete definitive version?? Incomplete is worse than an F! I’ll keep a eye out for, definitive part II...or would that be part III? I wish I could go back in time and....
As others have commented, the elevator dude's acting was really good. And the old bearded man. Of course the protagonist and sidekick weren't shabby. It was cool to see the semi-finished film with green screen still present. Really makes one appreciate actors' abilities. I hope that all films don't start doing this, as it would get old quickly.
Unfinished goods, waste your time if you want. I didn't get the warning.
If I had a time machine I'd go back and stop at the first episode. Would've rather left it a mystery then seen the sequel. That's time I'll never get back.
Amen, brother!
I was suppose to just walk by without commenting anything but.
I was really doing the minion thing the whole time "what"!!
There i did it!!
I still want to see more. Please finish this before the actors grow too old :)
Just take your key and travel back to see it !
I think it had promise... It doesn't appear to be finished due to the green screen stuff. But, how I would have changed it would be where the old man realized that he had to hand over the keys to someone new and he just picked him for some reason. Once they unlocked the door, it could have been their apartment was the control room.
Way too many things are confusing to put out for public viewing.
First, the GOOD news - the outdoor conversation scenes on the bench are stunningly, beautifully shot, and really well played...
The BAD news - I regret to say... is everything else!
The bench conversation is intriguing... there IS a good story there waiting to be developed, but to present an unfinished story about time travel, and waste some viewers time in the process, is going too far!
KAN 8.19 UK
Keith - the "good" you mention was already released, it was "episode 1"; I imagine if you'd watched THAT video instead, according to your above comments you'd have loved it. Unfortunately, the series was cancelled in the middle of chapter 2 - it was regrettable, the production crew and talent were LOVING what we were doing, we were literally getting some praise (after toiling in pre-internet self-made films that either didn't ever finish or were dismissed upon completion); the day it was cancelled was one of my biggest creative disappointments, it was a sledge hammer to the face. It was one of the worst moments I've ever had in film or writing. However, since we had filmed much of ep 2 (and I think a scant bit of ep 3), and since some of the cast and crew on ep 2 never had any of their work seen the light of day, and since it was cancelled they never would - I lobbied to release a cut including the last footage we filmed, which you see above - if you scan the comments on this video, you'll see many people commenting on how they liked the Elevator Operator - he wasn't in ep 1 at all; and as a creator, regardless if it was cancelled, I felt it was a CRIME to not bring those actor performances and filmmaking efforts to light, since many of them were volunteering their time, and on an indie project, "credit" is the main thing you get, so if it gets cancelled and no one ever sees it, the "one" thing you were hoping to get, you don't get.
So the "definitive cut" was released; only about 12 min more than the 18 min ep 1 (ep 1 was too long, I'll admit that), including some interesting scenes/concepts we'd filmed that were all greenscreen (because it'd been cancelled, obviously no one was doing more greenscreen replacement). So if one clicks onto it expecting the continuing story we meant it to be (and that I wrote to continue to a dozen episodes), I can see how you'd be bummed at the diluting of f/x and narrative direction. It's a bummer. So, sorry man, I'm sorry we wasted your time, that's the ultimate insult to creator and I don't take it likely - but I'm glad we at least "got ya" on some of the early stuff. Drama is hard to do, and despite your overall position, I really appreciate your initial comments.
Naw. You realize that this is not finished. For uploading unfinished time travel stuffs you get thumbs down.
Amen to that, there should have been a warning
LOTT by: Spike Lee
1. all time streams must be kept linear
2. you must not interfere in your own personal history
3. never engage in circular theory
4. always do the right thing
Every time-travel movie has its own "rules"
LOL, I love that you commented this - I'll admit it was me that added Spike Lee to the conversation; we had been discussing the sci-fi implications of the plot over and over and the original script at a moment where he said "you'll do the right thing", and so I thought that a cynical reference from the kid would work - and personally I believed in the underlying concept; we had set up these rules but also the possibility that we might break them, and I thought "do the right thing" is a great way to keep the characters in check; no matter how much power they wield in future episodes over the timeline, it's great that there is one moral code overseeing their efforts. It reminded me of my Christian upbringing but to take the idea and expresses it as a 90s kid that knew Spike Lee - I just effing loved it
I enjoyed and applaud this. With all the "unfinished things", that's pretty much how life in general is :-D Beautiful idea and well done to its extent!!
Back home in another universe and/or dimension. Everything is the same and at the same time, everything is different.
The green screens that the camera showed as the two visitors explored 2013 is meant to say to the audience that anything can be. In otherwords, the weather displays we see on the teleivision (or computer news that I watch) are not really behind the weather person. He or she is actually standing in front of a blank wall, or screen, much like these that the two young adults were standing in front of, just blank green walls.
I lost audio just after the elevator
An elderly, lame, one-eyed wanderer with a staff arrives to the sound of a crow cawing. I think I've seen that somewhere before....
You may have - we never intended to portray ourselves as sci-fi or narrative luminaries. We're just fans, creators, trying to sir up some ship
@@HeroJournalism It was more of a tip-of-the-hat to the allegory than any sort of criticism.
@@andrewjohnson6716 - no prob, I didn't mean to sound prickly - totally appreciate your watching and commenting, and don't take that as a admonishment, feel free to comment, whether critical or not, all feedback is welcome and encouraged! Thanks for giving it a chance, sir!
@@andrewjohnson6716 - can I ask? Maybe I'm having a misfiring synapse because your comment about the crow sounds familiar but is that a reference to Odin? Or is it another literary reference? Mike Poole created the character of the old man, including the eye patch - later I added to the mythology of the character (unfortunately most of that was never realized), but I will fully admit I hadn't made any connection to Odin, though Mike might've intended it when he wrote the original short and it just never came up as we developed the character. I'm a firm believer in that all fiction is built upon previous fiction, so it could've been a 'thing', and certainly hats off to you for seeing some sympolism that even one of the creators like me did not! Very cool, sir
@@HeroJournalism I completely agree with that. I've heard that referred to as "protomyths". We seem to have primordial stories, concepts, and characters that recur again and again throughout cultures and ages. The Germanic and Norse tribes of western and northern Europe have had many variations of "The Wanderer" that shared the aspects of appearing elderly, lame or crippled in some way, usually with a staff, and having deep relationships with wolves and/or crows. Odin, Othan, Wodan, Woden, or Wotan.
this would make a great movie and a fun series great ideas great delivery!
We actually DID plan for a feature length movie; being 'bootstraps filmmakers', there was always a constant push and pull between "make something short for the internet" and "make a feature length film"; after reading the early draft of the script, I said "why not do BOTH?" we'll make a serialized chapter-by-chapter story that we can re-cut into a feature!"
Because a LOT of crews around San Diego were making shorts at the time; but everyone seemed to know that there wasn't much payoff in that. so the idea was that "well shorts are easier to make," but once we've got like 7 of them we can re-cut it into a feature. It was a bit grandiose, we were kinda filming in our backyards but damn did we push to make as much as we could to have it be sci-fi we would respect ourselves, so I really appreciate that you liked it
He skipped the first few pages because he knows that book is rubbish. And the best line in this film is "Always do the right thing, what you know to be right".
Your film editor quit on you didn't he?
Come on men, 2011 is released the first one: great concept. 03 years later you release the "definitive" version without Chroma Key stuffs, audio and a decent ending?
Lets face the facts: the actors are great, the story is awesome and even the elevator guy does an overwhelming job.
Try to finish this video for real. Please. Don't blow it.
Yeah I don't know what's up that filmmaker. Do you think he died of working a low-wage job or something? Or did some old guy come and give *him' a key LOL
And what the hell were those audio gaps? I thought something was wrong with my system.
The story had so much potential, even the green parts, and the "214" label, but after a while it became weirder and weirder.
The story doesn't make sense to me.
I'm sorry guys. As co-producer, it was me and Mike, we fucked it up. It should've been awesome, and the actors were fantastic for it. There WAS a plan.
I don't blame you; we fucked it up from the get-go - I just want to say there was a PLAN - I wrote a140 page script, it made now difference, it's the same story
if you don't finish this, all 13,000 of us viewers are coming to your house
The ones who don't finish this are the smart ones
When they got back to the 1st floor the elevator door sticker still said 2nd. You have to fix that.
the role of the elevator operator is played by Christopher Walken.
Did you guys ever make a film of you going to the house the old man was talking about? And he says it is self sufficient. Meaning, you live there and everything stays in good shape and replenished. And a house that has the ultimate privacy. Only the door is seen. But I am sure it could all be seen if you wanted it to. Will that be your next film?
REALLY loved the elevator guy!
Was the volume meant ti drop out when it did?
I hope you are able to finish this properly.
The story has merit, and plenty of scope.
I'm assuming you've run out of money to complete it. Shame, it was just warming up.
I liked, but get this man some budget money please
Meh.. the dialog was sub-par. If I had a time machine I would go back and tell myself to spend 30:17 on watching something else...
Saw the 18 min version and now I'm hoping this version satisfies my curiosity -- it's fantastic!
"Has that ever happened?" LOL
Was there meant to be somethng showing on the green screens 🤔
Starts crapping out at around 20 minutes, doesn't recover.
The elevator guy was great
UNFINISHED...don’t waste your time unless you own your own “time machine” that you can zip forward in time until you get to the year when this film is finally completed.
Incredible ..... love it.
Ok I'm not a art major so wtf is this supposed to be I get time travel so when does that happen it's just a puzzled mess to me
Does everyone else just see the green screens too am puzzled why just shows studio lights then the green screens like that plus sound cuts out few times was looking forward to it at first part was interesting then this just seems all messed up and mixed up
I see the green screen problem, it's common. Using a crop of the scene will put a border on top and bottom of the screen, but will cut the views of equipment. The split screen has to be proportional, so use green screen frame and put it outside on least windy day. If when sun is high, bring a bright work light as to define sun position over the shoulder, but both people must be outside for the take. I also understand that the sound is cut out to take away noise. You can hide tie clip mics and wireless transmitter in your wardrobe, and record straight to laptop. Also you might add tracks of ambiance for "setting the scene" and adding spec emotional trigger music. Music is the same structure as storyline with peaks and denumau, but the cincopation is precedent before action for hightened stimulus effect. There are apps to use for background effects and the door effect was interesting (I liked it), but you can film a scene backdrop for the green screen, but match camera action with green screen or you'll have noticable background wobble. Repeated camera motions for multiple incorporated FX (ie. Background, objects in motion or pixelated fx, then characters, combine all vid tracks but proper timing!)
In my personal opinion, the outside air at the end was cut too soon to hear description, and I'd offer advice of spray snow if you wanted to sustain a belief of separate demension.
All great suggestions, I can tell you know your shiz, and thank you for watching. Admittedly, the series was too ambitious for what we and our crew could handle and that's why it was unfinished, but we loved some of the drama and concepts we got to play with; looks paltry today perhaps, but in the early 2010s it was a little audacious. Thank you so much for your thoughtful feedback and suggestions
It has potential
WHEN IS THE SECOND PART COMEING????? This is EXERLENT.
Its 2022 and nothing , what's happening !!!!
I'll give a thumbs' up to anyone who caught the continuity glitch @ 25:00
time travel is defacto interdimensional
Why is it just green screen and see all the studio lights too?
i thought i was the only one seeing it!
I was getting into the film was getting good then waiting to see what happens when he opens the door then just that happened lol
I came here to see Odin.
This is the most unique comments I've seen - what suggested "Odin"?
Oh do you mean the old man with the eye-patch? OK, NOW I get it!!!!!!! Still, love your comment - I loved working with him, he was an amazing guy despite his advanced age, he actually worked in the FBI under J Edgar Hoover! He passed on after we filmed this and I'm so bummed at missing out on the stories he could've told.
Do you plan on finishing this? Seems like to good of a movie without an ending. Please let me know if you plan on finishing it or not. Thank you.
The old man looks like he JUST DM'd a LONG LONG campaign......Also at 20:42 I really wanted to know what would happen with the 'tenants' if he had pulled the fire alarm?
I love the way you think! When I wrote that line about the "tenants", the building was clearly a nexus of crazy stuff going on, so are the "tenants" aware? are they other travellers? And the old man - we LOVED him so much, he was the most weary traveler you'll ever find as an actor. Amazing guy and we put him through hell with all this time travel jargon we came up with. And he never flinched, he just dove in. Thanks so much for your feedback
Does "definitive" mean "unfinished"?
In this case it means GARBAGE.
Haha! I was trying to be polite.
@@Luthiart When it comes to garbage like this film here then we're all allowed to be impolite. Nice sentiment on your behalf though.
@@Luthiart - We previously released "chapter 1" and were working on chapter 2, and had a script for about 13 or 14 chapters in total, which in total would reach a full feature length movie which we'd thought to re-cut without the chapter breaks as a feature; but alas, most people on the prod were contributing out of charity, some of the actors got a small stipend, but it was still basically a volunteer project and unfortunately, as a volunteer project we just couldn't keep it going when key people started to pull out. Chapter 1 was already released, but after the project was cancelled, the director Mike Poole released this cut of Ep 1 and 2, and additional footage from ep 3 (though much from 2 and 3 was unfinished f/x shots). It was an attempt to get a little more of the narrative out there so fans that liked the first ep could've had a taste of where it was going.
But I get it - it certainly is unfinished and I wouldn't argue with you about that - thanks for giving it a chance and I hope you saw a glimmer of what the drama we tried to do, but if not, no worries, I always appreciate feedback, good or bad. Take care, buddies!
Look I don't say this often kid , but ya show here got legs .
Oh my god there’s MORE?
That was nice
the kid looks like a young Gerard Depardieu.
He is handsome but this short film fails.
They at least could have used the special effects to show them going through time
Why green screens? Folio where were you?
NICE
Part 2?
It looked like you had a deadline to make, so you hastily uploaded it before the project was complete. Great concept. But three quarters through the film
I lost interest. Maybe next time eh! E for effort lol
Ha ha ha ha ha! That was not what I was expecting!
The sound goes 20mins in.
I'm sorry about that; we filmed ep 1 and were in middle of ep 2 when it was cancelled (though had filmed a little of ep 3 before it got cancelled); so for fans of ep 1, we just combined everything from 2/3 we had filmed to give them a taste of where it was going. Sorry, man - it's all on us, we didn't reach the finish line.
Oh, maybe I didn't make it clear - in the idea of just adding whatever we had, even if unfinished - several shots had no audio. Again, sorry, not what I wanted to present
AUDEO TRACK CUTS OUT @ 20 MIN
I won’t be recommending this to anyone.
Thank You! Please don't watch this Confusing film with No proper Ending! A really Great Build Up to a useless Ending!
I'd love to see this finished.
All I saw was green screen... Previous part was better then this... Wasted....!!!!
No. This short film just don't make the grade.
I get it, Curt - I really am sorry we didn't "make the grade". Listen, it was a crazy concept - the original creator Mike wanted to make "an American Dr. Who"; but we were on NO budget. He did some special f/x and so we started with that and built outwards but as we went on I think to service the story, it just required too MUCH of the f/x; and when people started to cancel out of the project, it was a cascading effect. But I understand your disappointment - I wrote a 150 pg screenplay detailing the adventure and as a time travel story - the ultimate ouroboros narrative, and I even wrote it so it could be done low cost production style but when others torpedoed the project during ep 2, we were stuck. It was never gonna make the grade
An interesting story is building up and then it just stops. No ending at all. Waste of time (travel).
MORE, please, PLEASE.
San DIego is a nice place to live, too bad it's part of California.
Time travel is only possible between dimensions so you can only change the future of some other you or some other world .while your world will remain the same or you won't never go back to your world .It's the multiverse universe. I Have done it practically accidentally (the time traveling through multiverse) . One day after I slept in the sleep and after I woke up in the morning I had memories of myself . As well as some memories of past which never happened also some memories which was going to happen in the next 10days. But there were only fractions of it no complete memory.and some random voices about warnings and stay alert. But it never happened afterwords. So I don't think sending a whole person in time in different timeline is possible. But one can send messages and thoughts only fractions of it in a timeline of some other you . So every bit of information mat not be right but will be enough to alter his timeline e.
Ikr. And this was how I found out aliens were homophobic. I was abducted once, and not one of those bastards wanted to probe me, no matter how much I begged. And I know they do it to everybody else they abduct. So the only logical conclusion is that they are extremely homophobic. Ofcourse they wipe your memory, but I sent myself a copy of what happened just like you explained before they wiped me. That's how I know about it. I'm gonna get them all fired.
It's called dreaming
When did others writed DO NOT WASTED YOURS TIME they were being right. You will be leted down by this video, it haves no ending and others negatives.
Sound does dropped off at diffrenter places. Visible green screens all over the place for visuals manipulations which cand be good for making ofed movies but they should not be left ined the movie. The movie is left very incompleted and really is not very a good job doned any ways, IFED this is maked by colleged ages persons. Ifed it was done by high schooler kids then it is pretty good technicals but still the story is left un doned!!
The video is marked as being fromed 2014, FIVE years old all ready so ifed do you intend for a finish to it better you geted off your butts and do it. Other wise ifed this was mine I would be embarrassed for showing it more any. "(definitive edition)"? More liked the crappy edition. IS this acshully supposed to be a movie or just a demonstrative video for videos making? OK only I am at 14 but even do I see too many faults!
I gaved it a 4 ofed 10
Early on, I gave it a thumb up. Near the end, I gave it a thumb down.
The movie needs to explain things better.
What I wanted to say with the 18-minute one: "Well, that was quite the cliffhanger! Nice film." What I want to say for this one, "Why don't you finish the movie!!! The actors are pretty decent (when it counts), why don't you get someone to do your CGI already!! Or use "clever cinematic devices" to bypass CGI altogether! OMG LOL we're all dying here :) BTW Is it really hot in 2013?
by the beard of Odin........
You only get one chance to make a first impression, and you used your chance to waste part of my life with this unfinished cr@p. You will not get a second chance.
Nothing.
Complete waste of time, about time. Not worth watching.
That's how it makes you feel when the ending is so lame.
Need to go back to the drawing board on this one. I hate to say this but I would have to give this one a LOT of "hands down" if I could. Terrible.
Oh, I might add too, that the writer knows nothing about how time works. Don't know what nonsense he as read, but I think he should get into the real stuff. You can't go back in time, because the world has moved on and is no longer is there and you can't go into the future as nothing has yet to exist. Video is is not creepy, just crappy.
this short movie is a fantasy thing .. not reality !! djee .. wake up @@
Kathy Lynne.... How come you know so much about time travel? Or have you confused your opinions/beliefs with facts?
Read what Kurt Vonnegut wrote in his book "Slaughterhouse Five" at the beginning of the video. Time is not physical. If you make the effort to think and contemplate "time", you will come to the conclusion yourself that going forward or backward in time is not possible. But on the other hand, you can go back in time, sort of, it's called "memory". With memory you can speculate on or about what the future may be, but to actually getting there, is not possible. And if you think more deeply about it, just for the sake of argument, if there was supposedly time travel, it can only be done as a one person thing.
Time travel cannot be done by two or more people trying to get to the same place, (or even the same time), because each individual has different views, thoughts, memories, and experiences of what happened in the past.
So rather than write me and calling me confused and what have you, why not just take the time and think about and contemplate time travel and if you think it's possible or not. And if not, why? And if so, how?
I think the machine is spread across California (like over the beach etc) and nobody sees it because it is in a dimension which is not X, Y, or Z. That is why they can be in the building, on the beach, and yet nobody feels or sees it on the beach. Just a thought.
Kathy Lynne You say going forward in time is not possible, yet we're going forward in time at this very instant. We're travelling int the future right now, one second at a time. Also, in physics there's no limitation on time travel whatsoever. The more an object's speed approaches the speed of light, the slower time flows for that object and he travels into the future. It's called time dilation and it has been studied and measured experimentally.
Sorry, this is pointless. I'd take it down; you’re not doing yourself or your collaborators any favours uploading this.
Please don't do another one!
Pray to Jesus and your desires will be met. Other than that, do you wanna go out and tear up the town?! ...We could do lots of wholesome shopping and then drop some ACID!!!
Ugh! Total crap, total crap! 😎👎🏻
Is this suppose to be great as understood by millennials? Appears to be a joke, all the people who worked on the video, duh doing what? I believe this to be a really bad joke and I don't care if it hurts your feelings or if you are emotionally damaged by my candor. Go to tech school and learn plumbing or electrical something useful.
Unfinished waste of time. Meaningless dribble, bad audio unfinished green screen poorly executed script, am suing for wasting a half hour of my time.
Don't forget the crappy transitions.
shite,,,,,,
Very amateurish.