This Portable Astrophotography Setup Does It All!
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I’m in an AstroBackyard video! My mum is going to be so proud.
How?
Not in this one but many other video of asrobackyard
Why you here? Don't you have stuff to do? Like star stuff?
🤣🤣🤣 Cooking fried cables...
See not everything is meaningless
I hope you enjoyed the dance party at the end
noice dude love the channel
Great video cool music. Question: What app did you use at the beginning of the video?
As always, cool music and vibe in the video. Thank you for sharing!!
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Looks great Trevor. I am looking forward to getting the Star Adventurer Gti and have one on order with Bintel in Sydney where I live.
I have a couple of portable rigs as I am a pilot who travels frequently. The little one is an AZ-Gte in EQ mode with a 50ED refractor / ZWO 485. That works great and set up is five minutes. It is the one I use when moving frequently.
In Perth Australia I have another set up I store in our hangar as we spend a lot of time in Perth. It is the 72ED / ZWO 183 Pro on an Ioptron Smart EQ Pro Plus. I take that one if away for two weeks or more.
Sometime I set it up at the airport and the plane is my astro shack. Lots of snacks readily available.
Love all your videos.
I bought mine from here also, New to astrophotography. Great mount I get 0.8 to 1.1 in tracking on average. Pin sharp stars at 416mm
Outstanding portable rig. I am getting a GTI to use with my Mirrorless camera rig, now I know I can upgrade to a great portable deepsky rig. Thank you so much!
Dude I have this setup but with the old AZ GTi in EQ mode. I love how well it works with your lightweight Raptor scope! Welcome to the ASIAIR club!!
Yeah same here!
@@liamgtav Do you have any issues with your mount/setup where it'll guide and track perfectly fine for 5-7 images and then your DEC goes crazy off? I usually then have to stop the plan and restart.
I used plate solving for the first time the other night using Astroberry and Ekos on my Raspberry Pi. It was a revelation in ease of getting to the objects!
Love my RPi and EKOS... does everything the ASI Air does but you can use any cameras you want r4ather than being bound into the ZWO ecosystem... all open source too. Jasem deserves a Knighthood for services to astrophotography (along with suitable Honours for the other contributors to EKOS) 😊😊
Thank you for sharing your set up! If I can ever afford to build out a system, your research will have me years of effort and so I really appreciate benefiting from all your work.
Careful. The comment below is a scam - looking for personal information.
I loved the "pop" halo of 52 Cygni with the reveal. Subtle, nice touch with that music! I'm debating this mount or save up for the ZWO AM5.
I completely agree that the ASAIR (both the older Pro and now the Plus) were some of the most important upgrades to start taking good images and quit wasting time. The new image cross feature is awesome. I have been extremely pleased what they have been able to do with a reconfigured raspberri pi.
Just getting back into imaging and put a new setup together using my old SW AZ/GTi mount in EQ mode and a SW 50ED Evogiude as my main scope (w/Starizona FF). Also a guide scope, ASIAIR Pro, ZWO EAF and EFW with a ASI533MC Pro camera.. And as a norm have had clouds after getting it setup. Thanks Trevor....
@Astrobackyard - couple places you didn't mask your GPS co-ords (when showing telescope control screen)
And yeah. Plate solving saves a ton of time. When doing plate solve to get scope position, you want to be doing it closer to the celestial equator than to the pole. My new rig (powered by APT) started complaining to me about that one time!
Nice video but isn't this setup pushing the weight limits of the StarAdventurer GTI? In particular once you add filter wheel and focuser. Clear skies!
This setup is almost $8000 which is out of my budget range for my 1st telescope. Also I cannot find any planetary imaging with this setup. (Edit: after reading some more, this cant take planetary or galaxy photos due to small 61 mm apeture. Its mainly used to take pictures of nebulas)
For my first scope, I want a motorized scope with green laser pointer so I can learn the night sky. I am thinking of purchasing this setup with only the 50mm guide scope, zwo 120mm mini, airplus wifi and green laser attached to the guide scope. No telescope/zwo 2600mm pro/filter. This will reduce overall cost to $2000. In future, I can purchase a telescope when I am ready for astrophotography.
Is there a better way to set up a motorized mount with wifi go-to functions and attach a green laser pointer to it? Can the 50mm guide scope attach directly to mount? Can the Airplus plate solve with only the 50mm guide scope?
Only other good options I see are also expensive (with motorized auto-align, go-to feature, wifi):
Stelinna 3.1 inch $4000
Nexstar Evolution 8 inch HD with starsense $3000 (use to be $2400)
Vespera 2 inch $1500
I think Celestron 8 inch w/ starsense is the best option but due to pandemic they are out of stock. Also charging $600 more than when it was released 6 years ago. Maybe I will just wait until they release a new version.
I really do hope you didn't let this scammer scam you :)
I am using an Skywatcher AZ GTI Mount with EQ Wedge on my Gitzo-tripod. Works great. The mount is GOTO. Max load is 5 KG. Not for big reflectors or Cassegrains if you want to do Planets,, though... But for your setup with no telescope, it can be used easy! Buy an telescope or DSLR camera later for photographing :) AZ GTI cost around 300 euro.
@@antoniohaluzan3396 who do you mean “this scammer” who is the scammer
Asiair just works, hands down the best part of my setup. And I only use the original version. I’m looking at a similar portable setup, and also looking forward to the portable battery video… 💰💷
I bought a Jackery explorer 500 minus solar panel for now. Weighs 14 lbs. USB, 12V, 120 V AC pure sign wave. LOVE it! Even when AC is available. I put it on a tripod hammock to Add stability and weight. For more portability I might think a 240 or 300 might be better if you're hiking to darker skies.
I got the magic cable (RJ something or other) this past November. WOW! It makes life so much better in combination with my ASIair, HEQ5 Pro mount, and iPad. Plate solving for polar alignment not only makes alignment possible when an object is blocking the view of Polaris, but it also eliminates awkwardness of viewing polaris through the polar scope, making mount adjustments, all while trying not to bump the tripod. Now I can set the tripod height based upon obtaining the best stability for the telescope and camera, and not whether I can bend my neck to peep through the polar scope. As you point out, ZWO has done a great job with their software to get the telesope on target. I've gone from typically needing about 30 minutes of set up time to start photographing to 10 minutes.
I'm new to this and I just purchased a similar rig using EQM-35 pro, SVbony telescope with ZWO camera, guide camera, and ASIAir. My challenge is that ASIAir is not able to plate solve. I need to figure out the focal length and FOV but I'm currently struggling with it. It states that FOV is out of range and giving me FOV ? x ? Any suggestions?
Incredible! This is exactly what I want to be able to do….minimal set up and easy to move! So happy I bough this, now if we could just get them!
Mine is on order, and will be a game changer for staying light when on the go. I will most likely get a second AIR to with it.
I really do hope you didn't let this scammer scam you :)
I can't wait for availability of the gear vs.... "pre-order" or "reserve yours now"...
We haven't even got a price in the UK, let alone a release date. I managed to get a good deal on a slt127 and I'm debating just sinking my whole remaining budget in an ioptron at this point.
Edit to add:. Slt127 is for visual. Astro will be a nice wide 200mm lens. Till I know what I'm doing.
Yep. Ordered mine in February. Not even a hint as to when they will be available.
@@progshark by grace of God nowhere in the UK had it even on websites till they made the announcement on TH-cam. But since then, not a peep.
One thing about this hobby is that there is no 'right setup'. I had a plan with the sagti at its core for getting into astro, but if I need to rejig the plan, I'm cool with that. Bit more on the mount, bit less on the rest. Cool.
Been doing it for ages even when there was no planetarium mode on the asiair, it is a game changer and will go better when you can plan using the planetarium feature.
I really do hope you didn't let this scammer scam you :)
@@antoniohaluzan3396 Im not that stupid lol
I love my ASIAIR Plus and the rest of my rig. My first shot was the Veil Nebula as well
I started my AstroPhotography journey last fall with a star tracker, digital camera, and telephoto zoom lens. Polar alignment and subsequently finding my targets have certainly proven to be challenging ... BUT ... I like that I'm learning the night sky through the process of star hopping. Even though it's been time-consuming to do it this way, it has given me FAR more satisfaction (as a beginner) than if I had used technology to do everything for me. I definitely plan to "upgrade" down the road to a setup like this one, but not until that "I actually did that!" satisfaction wears off.
I really do hope you didn't let this scammer scam you :)
@@antoniohaluzan3396 Not sure what the scam is, but I haven't bben asked for any personal details / etc. Thanks for the warning though - I might have fallen for it!!
Great video! This is a really portable telescope which can be easily used! And the cables exceptely the thing that it can use by itself it can be much easier for you to just look at it and relax! And the camera temperature was perfect! This is just perfect! Keep making more videos!
Excellent! Welcome to plate-solving! I typically refer to it as, "the Black Magic of computer-driven astronomy." You may want to consider WiFi instead of the USB cable for mount control. WiFi has terrible range, but can manage the foot or two from the computer to the mount. One less cable.
Enjoyed your post.
You're a lucky man Trevor. I'm in waiting mode for the same mount you have in your post. A quick look around via Google confirms they are as rare as hens teeth. With any luck, maybe mid July, here's hoping for a positive outcome.
(Oh, and the clouds! Clear skies at night seem to be but a memory.)
Awesome video. Finally in a position to buy my first star tracker. Looking forward to this being in stock.
Awesome setup and incredible shot man!! - It's great to see your enthusiasm for this rig shining through in the video, I'm also a massive fan of ASIAIR and it's incredible ease of use yet powerful functionality! love it!
Sorry I'm late to the party on this one dude - man I've had a busy few weeks haha!
Clear skies 🙂
@ AstroBackyard, what’s your opinion about the black hole discovery and it being photographed? 🤷♂️
I use a laptop (sharpcap/stelarium) rather than asiair but even with my wide lens there's been couple of times where plate solving and framing from planetarium display was invaluable.
Great video. I got my Plus over a month ago and love it. No more dragging out a lap top. Dealing with crashing ascom phd2 or capture software etc. Ect. Astrophotography is not so much a chore and more fun. I just need a good ZWO camera and a focuser
It's awesome to use technology to find deep space objects but actually seeing them with your own eye makes you see space different😊😊
Incredible Trevor…I have both pieces ordered and waiting for fulfillment! Be safe… Cheers..
Good Morning, maybe my question is a bit silly. How actually track the celestial objects using SW GTi.
I connected mount via SynScan to Stellarium, finished with 3 stars alignment,. Used GO-TO on Stellarium to point to object. What is a next with mount? Should I changed speed to 1x sideral? What is a next step before shooting?
I have a similar setup -- Radian Raptor 61, ZWO ASI183MC Pro, Svbony 50mm Guidescope, ZWO ASI120 Mini, Orion Altas II EQ-G, ASIAIR Pro. Looking at this, I love my EQ-G, but it's killing my portability. That Star Adventurer GTi looks so much more appealing for setup and weight. Giving serious thought to downsizing mount and upgrading guidescope as my next step.
@2:52 into the video, you show connecting a cable from the ASI AIR Plus to the hand controller port. The two ends are different. One is RJ45 in the mount, the other is RJ12 in the ASI AIR. Shouldn't it be from the auto guide port to the guide camera. ? Maybe im doing this wrong. Thanks to all.
I searched for the Whirlpool galaxy in my backyard for better part of 2 hours, getting 7 pictures before needing to flip my mount and having to start again. And now this exists. My god I need to start saving hard.
Thanks for this video. I did not realize what the small map in the corner was for. I was using Skysafari but it had difficulty connecting. A built in planetarium! Cool. I've been using all the other features of the software but I can't wait to try the Planetarium possibilities now. The great thing about ASIAir is they are always improving so even I cannot keep up. Keep up making astrophotography easier Trevor. You make excellent points in your videos.
I've always had an interest in the vast universe but recently I don't know what finally sparked it but I got into books, videos and now this. I would love to start this as a hobby, what would be recommended on a 2500$ budget?
Yeah, a controller that isn't isn't from the MS-DOS era! What a concept! Today you are a man.
Hey Trevor nice Video and congrats on the new move. Congrats on plate solving, once you start you can't go back. I completely understand your reasons for not though especially because swap out so much doing reviews and such - but the ASIAir knows what is connected so it does not matter now. I purchased a second one myself. I have one dedicated to the Edge800 system and the second AIR will be dedicated to the portable system - ASI2600MC and Canon EF 200mm USMII lens. - Cheers
Agreed. Plate solving was the biggest quality of life improvement i've had in all of my astro gear.
Interesting mount selection in the ASIAir. Others noted to use the EQMod Mount option, which is what i used with my SA GTI, but my Goto misses...badly, and doesn't want to plate solve. :(😢
Great setup ! I'm curious, does this setup exceed the 5.5 pounds of payload (50% of 11 pounds) of the mount for astrophotography ?
Most likley, but screw the limit, I used an Az gti in the Eq Mode, so basically the same thing his mount and used it with a bigger scope (72mm Refractor). Without counterweights it weighs a total of 9lb and I was able to to at least 600s exposures, under perfect contitions even 1800s.
@@matsphotography2843 You can "screw the limit" for a while, as your internal gears deteriorate at a much faster rate..
Absolutely loving your videos. They are so inspiring. I have a question, I have a Canon RF 600 F4, paired with the R5. Can I use the skywatcher star adventure with that set up?
This looks like a fantastic combination of products but any suggestions for a more affordable camera?
Trevor, your content is awesome!
I use an usb connection between the SA-GTi and Asiair. Works also very Good.
Thanks, this is exactly the type of travel setup I will make, howerver, how much does it weight and does it fit in a cabin bag?
You should try the little ZWO 30mm f4 guide scopes for more portability. I easily guide my rig down to sub 0.5” with it.
Love to see this setup using camera lens with a adaptor for the ASI 2400mc pro.
Which is a better telescope for astrophotography?
:--- An 8 inch dobsonian or a six inch reflector on eq mount with motor drive
Please help me out :)
What did you use to mount the Asiair to the tripod legs. I’m looking for the same setup.
Great video but never showed a polar alignment with it. Still trying to learn this new system since I just started astrophotography since I’ve been visual observing for two years.
Another great video Trevor, Thanks. Have ordered a GTi. Question/comment: I assume you polar aligned, correct?
Great video as always. Your image at the end was brilliant.....however, how many and how long were the exposures?
Great shot! Love this target :) Nice video Trevor!
How well did it guide Trevor? A lot of folk use the AZGti in EQ mode but it has its limitations. This looks like an obvious upgrade while staying portable but it needs to be worth the cost. Would be interested to hear your early bird thoughts!
Likely a dumb question - how is the ASI air getting its image? Is it from your Canon camera or a separate small scope and camera?
Do you have any tips or tricks for getting your cameras into focus once you get them in the right position?
You keep us inspired Trevor!…Supply chain delays and all!
Question please: How can I connect my DSLR Canon EOS 5D Mark IV astrophotography camera on my Skywatcher Evostar 80ED?
Always excellent videos, thanks!!! I have one important question about the cable connecting the ASIAIR to the mount. Can I use the "EQ mod mount" setting and use an EQ mod cable (like on the S-W EQ6R Pro) to control the GTI OR do you recommend the "Skywatcher AZ-GTi Synscan WiFi" setting and if so, what kind of cable do you recommend from GTi to ASIAIR Plus?
Question Trevor, do I need internet service to use the ASI AIR if I drive to the middle of nowhere @ bortle class 2 skies? Or is it wifi through your tablet/phone? Thanks buddy! Clear skies! 👍
Wonderful TH-cam!!! What is the screen that you are using that connects to the computer? It has Astrophotography software.
Great pictures. What would you recommend to an absolue beginner for deep sky photography or even capturing planets in terms of equipment.?
I really do hope you didn't let this scammer scam you :)
I recently sold my Skywatcher NEQ6 mount and Celestron SCT 8" scope along with the KQIK autoguider as it was too heavy and I hardly used the set up. But, this rig looks enticing. I am interested the battery to be used for a remote site.
Seems like a really good mount for its size class and especially a very easy to use platform to increase data collection time cutting down that "dead" time.
Do you have any numbers for guiding accuracy of the Star Adventurer GTI yet?
So I have this mount, cable, red cat 71 sitting in the rig and a ASIAIR plus. Do you have to do any sort of alignment or tell the mount or asi what hemisphere you’re in?
Only reason I ask is because for one I’m new to all of this and two when I connected to the wifi and was browsing the settings I saw coordinates already put in there for the Longitude and latitude. When I chose the andromeda Galaxy to target it went the complete opposite way of what my skyview app said where andromeda was. I didn’t have a lot of time to play with the settings and such. Only had about 10 minutes of clear skies before clouds rolled in. Will do some more testing this weekend. Any input about this would be greatly appreciated. Take care everyone!
Do you need a guide camera to use this platesolving function on/with the ASI air and the skywatcher star adventurer GTI?
No plate solving is done with main cam only time I swap to guide for plate solving is at large focal lengths but if your going to do astrophtography you will need a guide cam for long exposures.
It looks really amazing… For a beginner with astrophotography, starting with a mirrorless or dslr camera, would you recommend the star adventurer 2i or the newer star adventurer gti? For the next step, is the 72 ED Skywatcher a good option? Thank you very much!
quick question, what exactly is the cable you mentioned? great video i'll try to capture the veil with my redcat
I can make this set up work with a DSLR, right? I wouldn't get the wireless imaging control, but the auto tracking/guiding/alignment would save me so much time and frustration. I've been slowly researching into a light weight kit with effortless target acquisition and since I already own half of the kit here, I'd love to piece it together but with my own camera.
Great vid Trevor. How did you get hold of the GTi mount? they won't even be available here in Australia for another couple of months at least.
Love this video and it gives me a good guideline for setting up my own rig which I am about to at the moment. just curious to know: because the asi2400 is too expensive for me i can also do the same with a dslm or astro modified dslr right? and also telescope and guidescope are changeble right? so the key components of this rig is the star adventurer gti and the asiair plus - everything other is more or less free to change especially because of the budget. great video and love your work. cheers from Austria
I really do hope you didn't let this scammer scam you :)
@@antoniohaluzan3396 nope 😉
Looking forward to seeing more from this setup.
A simple question: What samsung galaxy tablet model are you using? The reason I ask is because some of them have very bright front lights which light up every time you touch the screen - which is VERY BAD for night eye adaptation!! Sincere thanks!
Does this mean you do not need to polar align before using the Goto feature on the Skywatcher mount?
As a rank beginner, this is certainly awesome. But just how much -- ballpark is fine -- does all this run??
Do you even need to polar align with this? Or does the pulse guiding and plate solving literally do everything?
Thanks for the great video Trevor! Can you tell me the model of the dovetail plate you're using?
Great video, and glad to see you are using the Raptor, going to take mine out as well next week with a light-weight set up as well. Nice meeting you at AIC, and Ashley won't have to screen this comment from you :) you are still doing great work, and 99.9% of people appreciate you. BTW the music, fades, b-rolls, are better than ever...but where was Rudy?
Trevor, was that rj45 cable a usb on one end? I want to make sure I get the right one. I ordered the gti. Getting sick of lugging my cgem dx out in the yard all the time. Lol
I can't believe you weren't plate solving, I haven aligned in a long time and I don't miss it.
Wow. What an image. What a set up. Did the move go well?
Man, that setup is clean. Great image too dude.
Hi can you make a video of the skywatcher 120 ED thank you.
I am searching for a kinda small Telescope with Star Tracker and maybe a guide camera. But just the camera alone is really expensive and ive seen kinda larger setups for less. Is there a way that you could showcase a kinda budget of these ? I know there will be missing some features if lowering the price but.... thats fine
SO did you have to polar align your telescope? , Is it better polar aligning your telescope when you start?
So I have a question. Is there some kind of guide as to what ISO and exposure to use for DSO’s?
basically been waiting for months for the ASIair Plus to be available....continues to be on backorder on their site. Hoping to use it with the Skywatcher AZ-GTI
I really do hope you didn't let this scammer scam you :)
Hello, could I connect the guide cam to the mount through the "phone" cable than again the guide cam to the asiair through the USB c cable? Thanks so much
I'm choosing between ZWO Seestar S50 and Star Adventurer GTI Go To, and I don't know what to choose anymore. I'm a beginner, I only have a Canon EOS, lenses that are not very suitable for astrophotography and a weak tripod, the problem is that I don't have time to spend the whole night outside fighting with the wind and focusing tests and I don't want cables to connect to setup. So, I'm interested in go to functions and the possibility of shooting via wifi with the possibility of seeing the photo on the tablet or smartphone. star adventurer gti seems like a right choice here, but if you also have to buy an apo refractor, asi and asiair camera I'm going out of budget :( So I'm considering zwo seestar s50 for fast photos, but unfortunately this one only has 10 seconds of shutter speed. There's the possibility of using star adv gti go to with a canon eos and lens without asiair and controlling shots from the tablet or smartphone without this asiair?
I tried going to Polaris to center and "Goto" but got a message it was too far away? ( I could see it on the screen) If I plate solve on a few other stars I can then got to say M31 and track & image?? Keep up the great work and Happy Holidays!! Mike
Phenomenal!!!! Please Trevor, could you kindly list ALL the parts of your set up as well as the filter wheel you’d use and electronic focuser? Thank you again
Better image than Mount Palomar from a few years ago, incredible, and you could stay indoors .
So what camera is the ASIAIR using to locate the star (Vega) in your video? I imagine it's using the guide camera. To use this mount, which I preordered, to it's fullest potential as you are, I would need a guide camera with guide scope, right? I have a WO 71mm GT. Thanks for your time.
Awesome video, Trevor! I use the exact same configuration with my setup, only it's using an HEQ5 instead of the GTI. I select "EQMod Mount" and Baud 9600. I have the GTI on pre-order and was expecting I would use the same mount settings since I would be using the same "EQ Mod" cable. Did you try the "EQMod Mount" option and find that "SkyWatcher AZ-GTi/SynScan WiFi" was the only mount selection that worked?
Do you still need auto guiding small telescope and camera using the ASI system?
Can’t wait for the German dude’s review on this setup. Nevertheless I’m sure it works great and that Trevor will have a blast in the summer with this rig.
isnt there a cheaper camera? because i have a 1budget and im looking for a good scope at that price,and if there is another mount?
Am trying to get into astrophotography I have a t3i and $600 any recommendations of what I should buy
Can you use an ASI with a sky watcher star adventurer and get the same results? Not having to manually move and align the mount?
Is there a less expensive option for the main camera you could recommend?