Secrets of Effective Lubrication
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- Unlock the secrets of effective lubrication for your folding knife! Discover what makes a good lubricant and how to properly maintain your knife for optimal performance.
Not certain of what to use on your folding knife, regardless of the pivot system? Well, perhaps my offering will be a pleasant surprise for you and one that you would be willing to give a try. I'm always experimenting with my knives and when I find something that I feel would be helpful to you, I'm happy to pass it along. This is my second video concerning lubrication, however, this is a new and upgraded lube. Sure, the old stuff is still good, but what I have here I believe to be even better.
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If you are interested, below is the first page and a half of the MSDS (Material Safety Data Sheet) for Wahl Clipper Oil.
Material Safety Data
Sheet Wahl Clipper Oil
SECTION 1 PRODUCT AND COMPANY IDENTIFICATION
Chevron SuperlaÆ White Oil
Product Use: White oil
White mineral oil 100 %weight
This material complies with Food And Drug Administration Regulation 178.3570
code of Federal Regulations, Title 21.
SECTION 3 HAZARDS IDENTIFICATION
IMMEDIATE HEALTH EFFECTS
Eye: Not expected to cause prolonged or significant eye irritation.
Skin: Contact with the skin is not expected to cause prolonged or significant
irritation. Contact with the skin is not expected to cause an allergic skin response.
Not expected to be harmful to internal organs if absorbed through the skin.
Ingestion: Not expected to be harmful if swallowed.
Inhalation: Not expected to be harmful if inhaled. Contains a petroleum-based
mineral oil. May cause respiratory irritation or other pulmonary effects following
prolonged or repeated inhalation of oil mist at airborne levels above the
recommended mineral oil mist exposure limit. Symptoms of respiratory irritation
may include coughing and difficulty breathing.
SECTION 4 FIRST AID MEASURES
Eye: No specific first aid measures are required. As a precaution, remove
contact lenses, if worn, and flush eyes with water.
Skin: No specific first aid measures are required. As a precaution, remove
clothing and shoes if contaminated. To remove the material from skin, use soap
and water. Discard contaminated clothing and shoes or thoroughly clean before
reuse.
Ingestion: No specific first aid measures are required. Do not induce vomiting.
As a precaution, get medical advice.
Inhalation: No specific first aid measures are required. If exposed to excessive
levels of material in the air, move the exposed person to fresh air. Get medical
attention if coughing or respiratory discomfort occurs.
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Hey, I listen to my subscribers and therefore decided to more thoroughly investigate what the oil actually is composed of. I put the relevent info in the desciption of the video. Check it out if you are interested.
I use food grade oil to lubrecate my knives. I sometimes cut food ( apples, beef sticks etc) with my pocket knives, and I don't want any harmful chemicals on them.
Turns out that this Wahl oil is pretty darn food safe. May not be bottled in a plant that is considered food safe, but being simply mineral oil, it sure falls into that category.
I use fishing reel oil, my epiphany came just like yours only I was fishing. I have zebco and diawa oil and both come in a FANTASTIC pen sized applicator with a needle like tip. Thanks for the tip! ✌️
Thanks for sharing
I use Hot Sauce on my knives.
@@michaelgepson2877 😆😂 thanks for the tip
Must control the tip!
@michaelgepson28 Hmmmm. I’ll give it a try!👍🏻
Thank You. You made my day. Grumpy mood and took a break. Watched your video and loved it. Thanks again for your humor and knowledge.
Thank YOU. You are too kind. Glad I was able to add some levity to your day. Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment. I appreciate it.
So this looked like a great idea. I looked up what the oil is made of and it’s just mineral oil. So to go cheaper if you’re going to use it , folks could just buy mineral I suppose.
Sure they could. But, they would not get the handy dandy applicator tip!!!
I think wd-40 is mineral oil with a few solvents.
Never heard of that. I can't speak from any direct knowledge, but that seems too far out there to be accurate. But, you have given me something to delve into and investigate. Thank you.
Specifically, it’s petroleum-based white mineral oil. Not the same as regular mineral oil. Just food for thought.
I am glad I stumbled on this video. I typically use a silicone based oil, that fairly costly for the amount you get. I never even thought about using clipper oil. I am going to have to give this a go.
I am glad you stumbled upon this video as well. Silicone is good as well. I have tried Crosman silicone which is made for break barrel pellet guns due to the fact regular oil in one of those can cause dieseling and destroy the gun. Thank you for watching and for your kind comment.
I’ve used Daiwa reel oil. I like the applicator. I have some Wahl oil. I’ll give it a try.
Hmmm, reel oil sounds like a feasible option. Maybe I'll get some and give it a try. Thanks for the idea.
That's what I use! I like zebco brand too, it's really cheap and doesn't leak out of your knife bearing.
Hey buddy, just a reminder that Esee already released the "Sencillo" in Magnacut.. Got one, and after putting a nice edge on it of course, it rocks!! Those are made and heat treated by White River knives.
Thanks for the heads up. Yep. I knew about them. Chatted with Shane the day they were announced. White River does a good job and is consistent in it's QC. I just can't warm up to the knife design. For now, I'm sticking with my IZULA II. If I did get one of those Sencillo's, I'd get the A2. I love that stuff!!
I made the mistake of using vegetable oil thinking it if food grade. The problem is it dries out and becomes sticky hard gunk. Now I just use the oil in the garage. I think it’s motor oil 🤷♂
Yikes. Glad you learned from your mistake. Not sure if I'd use motor oil, simply for the fact the viscosity is way to heavy. Something light like I showed or Pellgun Oil or even the old stand by, 3in1 oil.
Try this. Mineral oil, mineral spirits (paint thinner, charcoal lighter fluid, "white spirits"), bit of naptha, applicator of choice. $30 = lifetime supply for average person.
Holy crap! That sounds like witchcraft!!! Mix it up in a cauldron.
Actually, it sounds like a cool idea. Thank you for sharing.
I use baby oil for the pivot and a thin coat of Vaseline for the blades especially for a long time storage. I always carry oil and Vaseline in my EDC for fire starting, or just lubricating my skin so it's always handy and no need to carry a separate lubricant for my knives. This is the only oil I have ever used, never tried anything else. If it's good for a baby's bum it's good for my knife.
Wow. That is a well thought out plan. Thank you for sharing!!
Daiwa reel oil was my l00bie of choice, but my last bottle, which I stored in a cardboard snack tube, cracked, and the whole tube absorbed the entire bottle into itself, haha.
So, after that I tried gunny oil, but (for me) didn't perform as well as my 'ol reliable daiwa.
Since I spent so much on it, I'm obviously going to use it all up, but am watching for deals, where I'll pick up more daiwa.
I do have a tiny tube of wahl that I use with my Wahl Senior Vacuum Clipper, so I guess I'll always have some backup, haha.
Lemme know if you notice more gunk or anything after you use for a bit and clean.
I think less is more is absolutely the way to go with most things like this for sure.
Thanks for the upload.
PS: I've been using those clippers to cut my own hair for over ten years and it still purrs like a kitten and has no cracks or issues with the vacuum hose.
Sad that it's not available on 4m4zon since I bought it as I'd buy another one as soon as mine broke as it's been awesome and saved me tons of dough cutting many heads of hair over that decade. Mine is model #8566 with the v9000 motor if you so choose to look it up.
Cool. I'm on my second set of clippers. I'd say it is quite obvious I cut my own hair and have been since my barber retired 20 years ago. More $ to buy knives is what I say!!!
Thanks as always for watching. If I notice anything odd about the oil, I'll say something. Been using it for about four months now.
Always nice to see some guy who knows more about knives than Mr Chris Reeve,,,,
Thank you. I appreciate that. I feel the same way!!
I think a lot of people have got confused / wrong idea about “food grade” /“food safe” lubricant.
By legal definition, “food safe lube” means NSF H1, H2, or H3 rated lubricant.
I use “Super Lube”, by SYNCO. MADE IN USA, NSF H1 rated (in plain words, that means “suitable for Incidental, technically unavoidable contact with a food product up to 10ppm.”)
Also, “safety data sheet available on request”. (So, in my book, they do pretty honest business.)
As for Sebenza and CRK in general, I have a mixed feeling. (I have Large 21 insingo (S35VN), Large 31 drop point (S45VN), Sikayo (discontinued, S35VN), Green Beret (4V), and Small 31 in MagnaCut(also drop point). I like them all, but …
All of them came with pretty dull edge from the factory. (Which isn’t a problem for me. I’m a sushi chef by trade, I can put better than any factory edge from any brand (without bragging, I do that for living.))
To be honest, I feel like Green Beret in 4V and MagnaCut Sebenza are the only ones that are worth purchasing. (MagnaCut Sebenza turned out to be a real aggressive cutter after sharpening). And, Green Beret isn’t designed by Chris Reeve. So,…
Excellent comment. I appreciate it. If you look at the MSDS excerpt I included in the description of the video, you will see that the Wahl oil falls into the safe category.
On the one hand, I'm happy with that serendipitous discovery, on the other hand, I wonder if this oil will hold up and be a good knife lube for the long term. So far, yes. Only time will tell.
I started using Remington oil. Only because it's what I had. I use that stuff on scissors.
I tried it as well.
You used it on EVERYTHING😮.
Not sure what you mean? Please clarify.
Including your flag pole
I stock piled an amazing oil additive way back when science was still trying to make things better rather than disposable. I wish I could remember the name of it (labels are warn off). It was developed by NASA and used in many industries to preserve bearing life. I saw several tests like engines running for hours with out oil after being treated with a very small amount of this Micro Moly Graphite formula. It disappeared some 30+ year’s ago for reasons unknown. I add one drop per ounce in various oils for different tasks. I’ve tried it on a few shop knife pivots. I’ll half to investigate further...I know, too literal while being lost in fantasy land, just how my mind works. Lol
I remember Top Fuel Drag Racers removing grease from bearings then dipping them into this “Secret concoction” then draining off any excess to gain milliseconds in the quarter mile.
Yes, I’m one of those guys were a good magician can leave me scratching my head for the rest of my life...
I know a company called BG industries used it to create their own oil additive. Still have some of that too...
Great comments. Thanks for watching and participating in the conversation. I'll all for secret concoctions and stuff like that.
I used to hang out in the pits (always bought a pit pass) for NHRA events. I would stand in utter amazement watching them tear down a motor that just finished a pass. Wow. Talk about team work. Nothing like it in any other sport.
As I understand, sewing Machine oil Is the same stuff and it has a long applicator tip. I use it on sewing machines, knives, and hair clippers. Plus they sell it at walmart.
Hey, if that works, fantastic. I just like discovering new stuff and giving it a whirl. And, then sharing it with you all. Maybe I'll try some of that later. Thanks for the idea.
Interesting. I've never really thought much beyond the old standby 3in1. I think the clipper oil is smrt.
Your mind is a machine. A knife modding machine.
I do admit that I like WD40 for a lot of stuff. Like, a LOT of stuff. It cures arthritis too, or so the oldies tell me. Ain't nuthin' wrong with dubbya dee. Please don't make me come down there....
😂
My mind is a machine that has not had a proper oil change or had the timing checked in 30 years.
Hey, dubbya dee was under the watchful eye of your government there and must comply with the newer, harsher VOC guidelines. Better stock up now, that arthritis is not going to get any better!!!
I have to try this! I usually use CLP. Figured if it was good enough to lubricate a gun it was good enough for a knife. Plus I like the smell.
Ahhh. I used to use Breakfree CLP. I had the same thought as you. But, because I like to experiment, I started using different stuff that did not include a cleaner. When I landed on Pellgunoil, I was quite pleased and used it for years. This Wahl oil is working nicely and from what I've read, is mineral oil and has no warnings on the MSDS that comes with all chemicals. Meaning it is safe to use around food.
Oh, and I like the small of Breakfree too!!!
I use 3-1 (instead of wd40) honestly works well for me; but I will try this though.
Hopefully you mean the Wahl oil and not WD-40 like in the thumbnail!!!
@@knifetimestory You would be correct; ill fix my comment.
Cool. Thank you. That clears it up!
After over 3 months of waiting I finally got my buck 110. I already did some work on it. I cleaned the dirt out of it and then put some lubricant in there so now it opens up real smooth like. So far I love it, but there is one thing im worried about. My last buck knife was a Bantam my uncle gifted me, it's like a $23 budget knife, still made in the US with 420hc. I carried that thing for about a month until the torsion bar snapped in pieces and sprinkled all over my floor. I haven't even used that knife for much, so I guess it's because I've opened and closed it too many times. That wont happen with my 110 right?
The design of the 110 lock back uses the lock back bar and then the "spring" rod. The rod actually does not flex much at all. Unlike the typical friction folder like a Case Trapper (I've had one of their springbacks break) a system like what Buck uses, and so do a lot of makers like Gerber, the rod really is quite ridiculously tough. The spring on a Spyderco friction folder or lock back or even a Cold Steel lock back is more susceptible to breakage simply because it is a flat piece of spring steel. Sure, it does not have to move much either, but there is less mass to it and I believe therefore a weaker piece. That being said, I have never had a lockback spring fail.
Long story short, I would not worry about your 110. Use it in good health.
Thanks@@knifetimestory
Ballistol
...Smells like garbage and is not a good knife lube. Good for lots of other stuff though. (Did you watch the video or only commenting based on the thumbnail?)
@@knifetimestory it smells so bad I like it
Gotcha. I can't talk, I love the smell of Diesel exhaust.
@@knifetimestory 👍🏼👍🏼
I thought clipper oil had a fine grit in it to help keep blades sharp. I know the one my wife owns has a very fine grit in it. Just a thought.
Nope. I looked up the MSDS for it and the sole ingredient, much to my surprise and delight.
@@knifetimestory my daughter is a barber works great no grit in that stuff
👍 Seems like a good product, thank you for sharing.
The absolute last thing (not the 1st thing) one should ever have to do on a product that costs as much as a Chris Reeve knife is disassemble it and change the lubricant. Does Chris Reeve Knives offer a 50% discount because this action is necessary? Does taking this action impact the warranty?
Thanks for watching my friend. I appreciate it.
The folks at CRK think their stuff does not stink. So, trying to convince the that the grease they use is crap, is like telling Bark River their sheaths suck. Falls on deaf ears.
As far as I know, and I really investigated their warranty when I made the decision to start drilling hundreds of holes in their blades, that lubrication was not a warranty issue.
@@knifetimestory Unfortunately, as an old retired guy on a fixed income Chris Reeve knives are no longer in my budget, but to be totally honest I have owned Sebenzas in the past and found that while they make a great dress knife I found better value in a Buck 110 and Benchmark 940 for an EDC field style knife for hunting, fishing, and camping.
I remember back in the late 1980s / early 1990s when you could actually get Chris and his then wife to customize a knife for you - the good old days. 😂😂😂
Yes, no convincing Mike Stewart that his knives deserve better sheaths.
Ahhh, the good old days. I talked with both of them about 25 years ago via the phone trying to figure out what blade steel I had in my large Sebenza. I took it apart with then on the phone and told them what the markings were and I was told that I had ATS-34.
Totally agree with you about the Benchmade 940, (clipped to my pocket right now) and Buck 110s. Can't beat them.
So, according to the MSDS, it's 100% mineral oil. A container of generic mineral oil is probably cheaper than brand name clipper oil.
Absofreakinlutely right!! Now I know, and perhaps others will figure it out and just buy the cheap stuff.
3 in 1 oil here
Nothing wrong with that!!
I like to oil the spine? Also
Good to know!!
What's a good food grade oil for knives that serves the same purpose?
You got me there. I honestly do not know of a food grade oil for knives with pivots.
My only suggestion is to go very lightly with the oiling and then you won't have it oozing out to the blade or pivot or lock bar. It will stay right where it is needed and hopefully out of the way of food.
But really, who couldn't use a little oil in their diet. Just a little. Can't imagine how much I've ingested over the years of working on cars and trucks and then eating lunch with hands coated black.
@@knifetimestory Thank you.
100% pure tung oil...done.
@@addisonesslinger3653 Mineral oil indeed
Camelia oil for example. The Japanese wipe their cabon steel blades with it to prevent rusting for centuries by now.
(i have a bottle for years now, and it doesn't really smell at all. And hasn't gone rancid either. Like normal vegetable oils would that some people use.)
Or if the smell doesn't bother you: Ballistol.
Food grade mineral oil 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Yep. Thanks for watching and commenting.
I think he made this video because of me lol. I asked him and told me his secret first losers. 😂😂😂
I think you might be right!
FROG LUBE….is #1. The paste … this nice man is wrong!
Hey Tim Tim. Great name. Liked it so much you use it twice. Anyway...Thank you for adding your two cents. I appreciate it. I watched all your videos about your vast experience with cutlery and maintenance of such and can see that you speak from a wealth of experience.
I use Ballistol, because sperm whale oil went out like encyclopedias. I have the clipper oil too. I'll give it a shot one day 👍
Ha Ha. Very good.
I tried Ballistol and sure was taken aback by the odor. I grew to like it, but was not sure it was really that great for my knives. Whale oil was way to heavy.
I'll keep using the clipper oil for awhile. If it turns out to be a dud, I'll go back to Pellgun oil.
Ballistol is also a good wood treatment.
So I have heard. Thank you!