Hey just lyk Sandi actually came to me about the art first and he did check my age but didn’t care lol (I was 13 at the time he was a week away from being 16)
@ I was the person who had there story come about Sandi I’m the minor mentioned in the vid and it wasn’t a commission Sandi just had somone draw me it for free they offered it and I never mentioned anything about getting art drawn till he did
This is why the drama is stupid, you both consented to it kinda, yeah it was weird of sandi to go and make it based off a singular comment from you but that's no reason for people to start brining it up, furthermore because you both resolved it in private
The FNF subreddit is now making a movement to get sandi back onto FNF mod teams. Do you know how much it hurts people to falsely accuse them of pedophilia especially if he's a minor?! I've been groomed myself and this hurts me and so many people who are victims of situations like that. I'm in that fight to get sandi back tbh since Mario's Madness would not be as good as it is without his work. Golden Land retake sounded phenomenal and It pisses me off stuff like this happens. #bringsandiback #freesandi
many people do not know what kinda damage this can do to someone's mental health. reputation and sometimes life. like, teens do so many mistakes. that's what they do. but for this to be exposed by someone when this does NOT NEED to be publicly shown to the internet (especially when sandi was gaining popularity). This isn't even exposing someone because it's the right thing. it's just bullying them with a group of people that go feral when they hear the word "pedo" and publicly bully them. and the worst part is that these people don't care about real victims and could care less about a teen or young adult's mental health before they are even fully developed. for all we know, sandi could be debating on ending it all and people are just laughing at him for it cause of one person that is most likely worse.
its incredibly common in this day and age of the internet, for kids with unlimited internet access who grew up on an entirely different internet having to learn they were groomed into situations, only to accidentally be perpetuating the same behavior because its all they've grown up around. genuinely sad for these kids.
This whole drama was so stupid. He was 15 when he drew that art. Not saying what he did is right, but people who are calling him a pedophile are just stupid.
@@Eddieisjustbetter how on earth could a minor be a pdf, bro the whole thing about pdf's is that they PREY on MINORS. when you're 15 you're still just a dumb kid who's prone to making a ton of mistakes as you mature
"Pedophilia is a psychosexual disorder characterized by sexual interest in prepubescent children or attempts to engage in sexual acts with prepubescent children. It is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult has sexual fantasies about or engages in sexual acts with a prepubescent child. A pedophile is an adult whose conscious sexual interests and overt sexual behavior are directly either partially or exclusively toward children3. By extension, common use, a pedophile is an adult who is sexually attracted to or engages in sexual acts with a child." Learn to google next time you speak about something you don't know about.
Everyone is talking about Sandi but not enough people are talking about how Frazzdude (an adult) was also in that server/Group chat with a bunch of minors
Everyone hyperfocuses on Sandi because he's associated with the most popular recent FNF mod, so by talking about him we automatocally make an association with the popular mod which will in turn allow us to get more attention, which is the only thing that matters to our empty, chronically online lives. It's all about clout, nothing more, nothing less.
people give slingmingo fucking multiple chances, someone who is 100x worse then sandi: and has been proven to be a racist PDF file MULTIPLE times. and they give a literal minor 0 chances. GOOD JOB FNF COMMUNITY, GOOD FUCKING JOB.
not just slingmingo, you got people like madmanhalloween, betasheep, hoodatheantagonist, rightburst, and more who were cancelled yet came back and nobody said anything, yet why is it different for sandi? i don’t understand the hate, while sandi messed up people are blowing things out of proportion, it’s not fair that multiple people who have been called out multiple times, for even worse shit than this, get to just exist among us, yet when sandi fucks up once he gets kicked out of everything. I feel so bad for him, hell ive been in hot water before a couple years back in this community so I KNOW what hes going through right now, and all I can hope is that he recovers well and comes back stronger than ever. this community sucks sometimes
@@samuel-the-italian iirc: made nsfw while being a minor made nsfw of other minors characters and admitted to it on twitter made black face luigi and tried to say the mario’s madness team made it i think he got called out for saying the hard r a few times but i dont think thats true/i dont have enough evidence to back it other stuff as well
@RezzyKingStats10 Frazzdude, in fact, did not get away with it. He admitted to what John Said and willingly is choosing to leave, which is commendable that he chose to own up to it.
People are genuinely kind of stupid to think Sandi is a pedophile, when, by definition, a pedophile is an *adult* who is attracted to minors. Not only is Sandi most likely not attracted to minors, but he's also not even an adult. This whole thing is just stupid honestly. Yeah, what he did was weird and and stupid, but like come on.
Vro i think the same dude that "exposed" Sandi was the same one said that one of the animators of the BASE GAME had a history of drawing shotacon art. The thing is was that stuff he did was like 10 years old. I think people have a problem with blowing up something's relatively stupid and small WAAAAAAAY out of proportion.
Shotacon stuff is still weird, though. You can argue it doesn't hurt real minors, and it doesn't, but that's still weirdo behavior, especially since the dev is literally 34. No matter how long it was. We can still have the right to not like Brekkist if it makes us uncomfortable.
From what in seeing this person just seems like one of those people who gets petty with people's success and tries to find anything to bring them down even if it was years ago if this is the case this is incredibly disappointing and they should focus on other things rather than stupid shit like that because then bad stuff like this happens and it sucks
For the pillar chase fans here, it sucks how a bunch of the themes Sandi made are not being added and the ingame ones were removed. It really sucks how people falsely accuse other people.
@@Xo_0ffic1al that's what i meant, the 2011x and mr virtual themes were remade by madzilla but the jazz lobby and christmas chase themes are still in the game
Yall are so stupid, you can be a pdf and still be a minor, he should get a 2nd chance, but saying what he did wasn't bad (which is what your doing) is outrageous
Meh, wouldn’t be the first time a creator I liked was accused of being a pedo when in reality they just had really weird interests, still fucked up how a 16 year old got this put on him, hope the guys doing okay.
I heard there replacing all his music. That’s so dumb. the mod gonna be pushed back longer. Just let him keep the songs in. He’s 17 he doesn’t know better. I’m not defending what he did but not giving him a second chance and giving major Pedos a second one is just unbelievable
We have really gotten to a point where "i dont like this person that's popular so ill call them a pdf file with almost nothing to back it up" is a common thing
i hate when people try to cancel someone over stuff from the past, like yeah it was probably a bad thing to do but it was in THE PAST, like are you aware that people are capable of changing?
For the two above me, no, not true. I don't think Sandi would just randomly pull up something like THIS from his past, would you? Because I certainly wouldn't
@@Addmeyeah exactly its not very good looks tbh. like if you had a history like that you most likely wouldnt wanna bring it up from then.. thats what people dont really get so thats why you dont see people telling their every deepest darkest secret from the past ect.
Agreed but it does suck that all of this was solved in private, he was exposed cause someone didn’t like him and used it as a way to get revenge, and thus caused him and his work to be removed from EVERYTHING he was involved in. He isn’t a pedo and is indeed a weirdo, but it’s not something that should cause him to be cancelled and have his reputation ruined and tarnished
Okay he's a weirdo for having a fetish. A...lot of people if not most people on Earth who aren't asexual are gonna have those whether they realize it or not. It's 100% fair to think its weird, but treating that like a label of being a bad or more risky person isn't great imo.
Exactly! That is really fair, for both him and the community! Not ranking him as a pedo but just letting him at least go with a warning, plus give him time to better himself, is so much better and healthier. Like think of Sandi’s mental state during all of this; seeing all these drama claims and stuff
@@gizmoray721 being friends with predatory people and indulging in the sharing of fetishes with people WAY younger than him is something worth being called out for i feel
Sandi wasn't the artist. Sandi was a 15 year old who did stuff with someone who lied to him about being 14 online. The artist was never really blamed or brought up by people, Sandi's the ""perpetrator"" according to whoever started this bs
NEW INFORMATION! It has been CONFIRMED that thanks to John's thread which is the second Sandi involved thread, MARIO'S MADNESS WILL IN FACT HAVE TO REMAKE HIS INVOLVEMENT IN THE OST. Don't worry about the Art in All Stars Act 2 Marco has Ownership of the Act 2 Characters as well.
@AlphaCraftMC-m5m both threads that have called out his behavior, made him a person who poses danger to many in this community and others he's involved in music wise if he wasn't pushed to perhaps rethinking his choices. Stern actions had to've been taken. BTW, I also understand that he isn't, in fact, a p***file.
@AlphaCraftMC-m5m both threads made calling out Sandi's Actions sure showed everyone that he was not, in fact, safe to be around, so in the nature of preventing future situations and giving him a space to think and re-evaluate his actions, both directors of FNF mods and other projects he makes music for such as PC2 have kicked him and are replacing his work. This is the safest outcome.
sigh, really wish that cancel culture just ceased to exist. anyways bringing stuff up back from such a long time is and always will be such a stupid thing to do, considering that sandi was 15, still merely a kid that's yet to mature, at that age you're prone to making a ton of mistakes. it just worries me because the stuff he made is dope as hell, specifically the mario's madness related conent, and now i'm probably not gonna be allowed to enjoy any of his work due to this stupid drama
Me too bro i'm an Omega fan (as you can see in my PFP) and who made Omega ? It's Sandi. So what i says of this is that JUST FUCKING LEAVE SANDI ALONE ! Is he p**ophile ? NO ! Did he wanted harm on any real people ? NO ! And bro is 15 he's literaly two years old younger than me ! And bro create my favorite Mario.exe character of all time, he is able to do things on Fl Studio than i personaly will NEVER be able to do and it's like... This guy is as a fucking talent ! Why bothering him on such stupid things like those ?
Just a heads up, that john dude seems to be going after punkett next trying to expose them for something in a VC, cuz someone tweeted out "top 10 punkett VC moments" or smth like that, and he interigated punkett about their age in the replies of one if punketts tweets talking about another drama (sandi and frazz server shit), idk why this all seems really planned in advance cyz this is now 4 people (potentially 5 if punkett) outed and we're hardly into 2025, to me this seems a little too planned out ahead of time.
Normally I don't advocate for this, but with the harm this guy has caused and is seemingly gonna keep causing, I kinda wish this guy would get witchhunted and bullied for being an asshole who digs up old stuff for clout. It's awful to have someone running around the internet like that causing harm for the "bad people" (Sandi in this case), the "victims" (basically Sandi, Arey, and the artist for getting caught up in such stuff as minors), and the fans who are either sad about the bait or mad after they bite the bait.
Yeah, cause legit, nobody is talking about the shotacon stuff with Brekkist. That's a red flag, at least for me. I'm not saying he's a pred, but that's still hella weird even if it was years ago. He was still an adult.
@@bluengi3878Hundreds of terminally online losers tried to say it's a nothing burger just because its a drawing. They clearly did not see Shadman to see how these "lines" to actually do something.
@KabiumKaborya shadman is a adult at the age of his 30s (i think) that made those drawings specifically to piss people off, but it does go too far. .sandi made the drawing at 15 years old when he didn't even know any better. and teenagers do FAR worse stuff that what sandi did. i think the terminally online loser may be you looking at a mirror. cause you are trying to justify sandi being harassed by 90% of the fnf and pc2 community cause of a mistake he did. a fucking child. ever stopped to think what the person he made the drawing for was doing? AreyMang0? being hypersexual on adult discord servers, even their own youtube. already settling this stuff PRIVATELY (which it shoulda stayed. nobody should hear what we all did as a teenager) at the time before a few years later, willingly gave private screenshots and inside info to john ezax (another person im suspicious of). This isn't a nothing-burger because of a drawing. it's a nothingburger because of it being pointed at a teenager with drama already settled between both teens that did a wrong. except sandi is now stress and overwhelmed, while Arey is just lounging around as a cutesy persona, being hypersexual with other people saying "my belly is big~ im gonna burst!!" (evidence on her latest video) you can say arey doesn't know any better as well since she was 13 at the time, but she is 15 now while sandi is 17, and she gave out that info for malicious reasons that...again.. they both ALREADY settled. Both did something stupid. but one is dragging it out for clout.
BREAKING NEWS! The fnf community decides it would be the best time to start a new year with another revie situation! Sandi was a minor at the time or something,,,,, probably 16 or something idk my only source is youtube videos,,, but he still should’ve checked the age nvm the person who commissioned the art actually commented saying sandi did check his age before drawing so uhhhhhhhh yeah
Unless this comment is saying Sandi found out Arey was 13 and went along with the art at 16 In that case okay that is b a d-not as bad as the usual pdfs but still *b a d* if true
I had to rewatch some parts of the video to understand it clearly, And yeah, this drama is so stupid Arey and Sandi have gotten themselves into this problem
By the end of the year, they're gonna end up cancelling the last good FNF musician and at last, only the 11 year old kids will remain to make shit music. Bravo, community, bravo...
This whole drama is just a prime example of why we should make a test before entering social media if you even are smart enough to read everything in a text
The fact that the mod which Sandi also worked in, such as: - Mistful Crimson Morning - D-Sides - Mario's Madness - Dead Air - etc. ...people/devs just kick him out due to this STUPID drama. I mean, srs, Sandi did wrong but at least NOW he doesn't do that, he has changed. Why would these people kick those people who did wrong in THE PAST? I would give him a second chance because he doesn't do that NOW. And also, a lot of people don't talk about Frazzdude, which is even more stupid than I thought. What is this internet going on?
This just seems- really- frickin'.... dumb. Like it's not right yeah- but calling him a Pablo when he's also a minor- Like it's just a minor mistake(nopunintended) that was made- Ofc it's bad and all- but personally- I feel like he's gonna deserve an apology for this crap later down the line-
Or it could get worse- but I rlly feel like this isn't that big of a deal. Also the funny thing is- I found out about this from a video talking about the chase music for Mr. Virtual in Pillar Chase 2 getting changed bc of this- and what's even worse is the chase music is mid af D:< This entire comment just rlly boils down to I don't think this is that big of a deal and later on he's gonna need an apology in some way- I also think there needs to be like- A LOT more solid proof backing up wtf everyone is saying about 'em-
I COULD be wrong- but that's honestly just how this feels to me- could also be denial bc I really like the stuff Sandi has made- but eh, if he's still a minor, and he did bad stuff while he was still a minor(or in other words some years back)- it's labeled as bad don't get me wrong- and there has been WAYYYYYY worse sh(izzle) in the world that's happened- but it's also at all at the same time just mistakes people make as dumb teenagers- like you can look at anyone on Earth, and there isn't one person who hasn't done atleast ONE bad thing or mistake when they were a teenager.
The FNF Community (Specifically the EXE and in general) are some of the worst...I've been in some drama and it's genuinely disgusting,good thing I left it
This is same community that gave other actual offenders have multiple chances (MayMay4Dayz) All seriousness though, i personally say everybody in the wrong..
Nobody gave Mayz and other bad people multiple chances after being outed, its just that theres always fans of those that would support and work with them no matter what, this happens in any community sadly.
Tbh Sandi's "Expossal" felt more like a public humilliation to a Teenager than an actual exposal of an actual danger, man, this is so fucking ridiculous 💀
hi i made the original thread on sandi. let me correct something. sandi actually asked arey (the younger minor) if she had fetish art of her, to which she told sandi "no but she wishes" and sandi went on to ask bivey, a 17 year old, to draw the art, not telling her areys age. also john ezax never owned the original exe mod he was just a very notable archivist and leaker of it, and he made a very accurate revival.
it's really fucking sad how vile and petty people can be to defame and ruin your life by digging into your past and showing it to the world. but a single person thinks to look into the exposers's past. and usually, they are 10x worse and an actual bad person looking for clout, or are jealous.
I was just enjoy listening to Golden land retake,until i saw the comment section saying about the sandi drama,and i had known nothing about it,but thanks for making this man,i underrstanded it now :>
Sandi was actually making a Green Mountain mod called Returnal and it was gonna have lyrics but due to the drama he had i don't think he'll be finishing that mod but if we get rid of him the best future songs will be ass so pls don't get rid of him.
i swear these people cant read, lmao. it was two minors. it's weird, not illegal, for a 13 y.o to ask a 15 y.o for nsfw art. get your facts straight. it's weird, not illegal.(this is for those who called sandi a pedo)
Being called a pedophile whilst also being a minor? That doesn't make any sense. pedos are adults who are sexually attracted to minors, now being one under 18 is absurd and very stupid to claim.
I think Sandi can make a great comeback and recover, this drama was bullshit the moment it even started, seems people never learn from the Kwite and Pyro situations
I heard there replacing all his music. That’s so dumb. the mod gonna be pushed back longer. Just let him keep the songs in. He’s 17 he doesn’t know better. I’m not defending what he did but not giving him a second chance and giving major Pedos a second one is just unvely
@skylarsworld9477 Unfortunately, no, Marco made that tweet after the first thread (not the same person). On the wiki page, You can find that after the second thread, two Discord Messages From Marco Himself detailing that yes, there are most definitely changes occuring with The OST now.
Unlike Raven, who had completely been proven innocent, this was definitely a situation where he is still in the wrong, with all possible info, considering he also chose to try and encourage one of his friends to lie is also problematic.
rightburst was a piece of shit who was making revie look like a predator Antonio on the other hand was investigating sandi, making sure his shit was real, and all that other junk In short, one is not like the other.
A friend of mine known as Drybonez from the pvz community was falsely accused by many people and known people in the pvz communit for being a pdf file despite all of this drama happening when he was... 13-15. Im surprised it too the fnf community this long for the same thing to happen. This is redundant and everyone who thinks that Sandi is a predator are all idiots. They should feel ashamed for pretty much ruining things due to their small brains.
No wonder why paranoia and Promotion got removed. I was so confused, but I'm still confused how two MINORS get in trouble if it isn't a diddy-like situation
What a way to start the year I really REALLY don't want to have another year where we can't have sh¡ț without having any drama or serious problematics almost every goddam week
if 2024 was anything to go by. then boy, 2025 and onward are not gonna be better. i don't care if im being pessimistic, this is how the world is nowadays.
Okay so the only reason I know anything about this and went looking for the lore is because of Pappo's QR code hunt on his Green Mountain video, and I looked in the comments to see if people time stamped the qr codes (they did, love them), and then saw the pinned comment about someone named sandi(???) and there being a "situation". And I thought "oh Pappo mentioned them in the video, something about a cool edgy sounding song". But people in the comments replying to the pinned comment were saying the cool edgy song might not happen now cause of the "situation". So anyways I went looking on twitter (cause that's where you go to find the drama and the lore for the drama) and sandi's account is a graveyard, locked and privatized or whatever it's called on twitter. So I searched up the account's @thingy in the twitter search bar and a bunch of the posts/tweets/replies to sandi's tweets were just roasting him about fat fetish art, and I though "okay, weird, not bad but definitely weird, don't know why people are so upset about fetish art." And then one tweet I saw mentioned something about a minor, but I couldn't (easily) find anything else, so now I'm here cause I put "green mountain returnal sandi drama" into the youtube search bar. Anyways all that aside, thanks for the informative video.
So lemme get this straight. This guy, a minor, drew questionable art of another minors character, with consent from both parties, and now everyone hates him for it? Do I have that right?
13 with basically 16 sounds bad though I don't understand 2-year age gaps well so I'm not sure. It seems more like a thing where it would depend on maturity potentially being bad or good while a 1-year gap is definitely fine. More than two and they are def a ped though so I'm glad it's not that far. Also, if the definition of ped specifies adults than it's wrong, age gaps can be issues for two minors as well.
A Little Update to this Personally: Sandi Channel is Currently Deleted including all of his OST Videos, personally i was starting to hate this man before the Drama Even Started, its was Like Slingo and Nayukhrome, also happy new year and let's hope 2025 of FNF Is better all the drama last year kinda died down on my love for the game,
I hope someone archive his music beacuse his music is very good to be honest from a 16 year old and that's saying something but.. he decided to waist all of his talent for.. stupid stuff
@@anonmy10ERPed with and solicited nudes from a 14-15 yr while 16-17, a pain in the ass to work with, talks shit about others behind their backs and gets them to join VCs so he can bully them, pretended to make fun of someone’s grandma dying with Floombo on Twitter, there’s more but idr
People who hold minors up the same standards as adults are always idiots Like, of course a TEENAGER won't have the same level of maturity as a GROWN ADULT. It's just a fact, and for grown-ups to actually forget that and not even THINK about it is just Childish in it of itself
Ever since this drama came out, I wasn’t mad at Sandi nor against him, yes what he did was wrong. But at the same time, he isn’t a pdf file but this community will ravage you to pieces if they find something to get mad at you about and blow everything out of proportion. Have horrible people been outed for being a bad person in the community? Yes, for example Sling (I hate him 😭). Have they ran somebody innocent off of the internet?, also yes. Sandi isn’t 100% innocent but he is literally 16 so he has time and room to grow as a person.
Uhh can u do a video on springy_salts drama i want more people to know Springy_Salt is someone I used to work with on a project called Jeffy’s Indefinite Hiatus, and while things started out fine, they quickly took a turn for the worse. He accused me of tracing art when it was actually HIM doing the tracing. When I politely called him out and asked him to stop tracing, he banned me from the project and told me I should “burn in hell.” But that’s just the beginning. He used racial slurs multiple times while we were playing Garry’s Mod. At first, I thought it was a mistake, but he kept saying the N-word over and over. I even recorded proof using my clipping software, Medal. This wasn’t a one-time thing-it’s a pattern of his behavior. He then tried to blackmail me by editing a harmless clip of me saying the word “snicker” to make it sound like I said something offensive. That shows just how far he’ll go to try to ruin someone’s reputation. On top of that, he spread false rumors about me, like claiming I was lazy or traced my art, which was completely untrue. Meanwhile, he stole my cover art idea, tweaked it slightly, and even used my artwork for his banner without my permission. That’s not just unethical; it’s straight-up theft. Springy also disrespected my beliefs. When I quoted a simple Bible verse, his friend gave me a “fool role” in their Discord server, and Springy himself called Christianity a “stupid belief.” That kind of targeted hate and mockery for someone’s faith is just unacceptable. Now, let’s talk about the “silly style.” This is a unique and recognizable art style created by someone else, which Springy blatantly copied without asking or giving credit. He tried to pass it off as his own work, but I have evidence to prove otherwise. His lack of originality and willingness to steal from others show his true colors. After enduring all of this for years, I decided to expose him. I revealed his actions to others and even convinced key members of his team, including the main composer, to leave his project. We took back control by repurposing the stolen assets for my project, SML Movie: Devastation. Springy’s harassment and toxic behavior went on for four years. He and his group would gang up on me and attack me for no reason, likely because I was part of a larger, better team. And karma hit hard-people began accusing HIM of horrible things because of the lies and rumors HE spread about others, including me.
As a Pillar Chase 2 player, i'm sad that we won't get any more banger music from him. (basically he makes music for a roblox horror/survival game named ''Pillar Chase 2'') But also disappointed cause why would you do that kind of stuff, thats weird af
the worst part was that Sandi was kinda the reason to why most of the chase themes in pc2 were great (since I heard that some of the best chase themes in the game were getting replaced and I believe it’s because of the creator) and now that they’re gone and are being replaced, it’s hard to get used to the new ones anymore (everyone hated the new theme for mr v cause it sounded bland and didn’t fit him, but after the song was remade to have a more circus theme, people are okay with it, but there are still a lot of people that are sad that such a good theme was replaced). I just hate it when talented artists/content creators ruin their own careers because of weird sh&t, separating art from them is impossible these days.
People do lots of dumb things as teens, it’s a bit disappointing that he didn’t do better, yes but I think we all should be ready to hear him out because the initial misinformed response from the public is what caused him to panic and leave in the first place.
One minor Asked another Minor To get art of their persona but fat. Said Minor asked another Minor to do so. No Porn. No Grooming. No Pedophilia. Just fat person art.
So let me get this straight… a minor was approached by unknowingly another minor to draw art, and he did it. This minor in question is also in a perverted discord server with other minors and is somehow expected to leave because it makes him look like a pedo? All of this controversy makes no sense, the dude was a minor when he drew the art and he didn’t even know the age of the person. And as for why he didn’t ask for the age there’s two possible justifications. The first being plausible reason, the person is commissioning nsfw art, so unless the person states or insinuates that they’re a minor, one would naturally assume the opposite. The second reason being that as a fellow minor, why would he care? Thinking in the mind of a child, why would a kid see issue with drawing another kid sexually when consented to, asked by, and paid to by that person. And the same logic can be used for the discord server. He was and still is a kid, why would he care that a 18+ server has minors in it? He’s also a minor. Of course he wouldn’t leave to “protect himself from being labeled a pedo”, because he’s still considered a target too. This whole thing is honestly stupid, and the dude has done nothing truly wrong.
What’s so stupid is that I keep seeing comments about how the “age gap was weird” between a 13 & 15 year old. Guys I bet most relationships are two years apart, especially if you’re at school and you see a 15 with a 13 year old person (or maybe my school was just weird in and of itself). If it was 3 years, yeah maybe weird. If it was 4 years, definitely weird, but calling it weird for 2 YEARS?? c’mon now
Hey just lyk Sandi actually came to me about the art first and he did check my age but didn’t care lol (I was 13 at the time he was a week away from being 16)
So you're the one who commissioned it?
But didn't you wish for the art??? If you didn't, why didn't you deny the art? Like, tell him not to make it?
@ I was the person who had there story come about Sandi I’m the minor mentioned in the vid and it wasn’t a commission Sandi just had somone draw me it for free they offered it and I never mentioned anything about getting art drawn till he did
This is why the drama is stupid, you both consented to it kinda, yeah it was weird of sandi to go and make it based off a singular comment from you but that's no reason for people to start brining it up, furthermore because you both resolved it in private
the age gap's extremely weird but... well actually i don't have any points to make sandi's at almost illegal levels of freaky
The FNF subreddit is now making a movement to get sandi back onto FNF mod teams. Do you know how much it hurts people to falsely accuse them of pedophilia especially if he's a minor?! I've been groomed myself and this hurts me and so many people who are victims of situations like that. I'm in that fight to get sandi back tbh since Mario's Madness would not be as good as it is without his work. Golden Land retake sounded phenomenal and It pisses me off stuff like this happens. #bringsandiback #freesandi
many people do not know what kinda damage this can do to someone's mental health. reputation and sometimes life. like, teens do so many mistakes. that's what they do. but for this to be exposed by someone when this does NOT NEED to be publicly shown to the internet (especially when sandi was gaining popularity).
This isn't even exposing someone because it's the right thing. it's just bullying them with a group of people that go feral when they hear the word "pedo" and publicly bully them. and the worst part is that these people don't care about real victims and could care less about a teen or young adult's mental health before they are even fully developed. for all we know, sandi could be debating on ending it all and people are just laughing at him for it cause of one person that is most likely worse.
its incredibly common in this day and age of the internet, for kids with unlimited internet access who grew up on an entirely different internet having to learn they were groomed into situations, only to accidentally be perpetuating the same behavior because its all they've grown up around. genuinely sad for these kids.
i hope the PC2 community tries to get Sandi back and Blade agrees, we want him back.
"Making a movement"
Literally just hashtag spam
Im joining this movement. Poor guy got misunderstood
Pedofiles : given 4 bajillion chances
Sandi : not given a chance for making NSFW as a teen because he didn't knew any better
Are you fucking 12 the first thing has literally never happened in the history of ever you people are making shit up
This is so cool
real
Twitter has selective hating, the more a drama is popular, the more it will be talked about so stupid ngl
Legit whaaat😭😭 (didnt bother to watch the whole video)
This whole drama was so stupid. He was 15 when he drew that art. Not saying what he did is right, but people who are calling him a pedophile are just stupid.
Minors can be pdf? Hello? Like if someone draws cp, then that's bad, yeah maybe he's not a pdf, but it's still weird and fd up
@@Eddieisjustbetter they stated it wasn't right.
@@Eddieisjustbetter by definition, a pedophile is an adult who is attracted to minors. so your claim is wrong.
@@Eddieisjustbetter how on earth could a minor be a pdf, bro the whole thing about pdf's is that they PREY on MINORS.
when you're 15 you're still just a dumb kid who's prone to making a ton of mistakes as you mature
"Pedophilia is a psychosexual disorder characterized by sexual interest in prepubescent children or attempts to engage in sexual acts with prepubescent children. It is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult has sexual fantasies about or engages in sexual acts with a prepubescent child. A pedophile is an adult whose conscious sexual interests and overt sexual behavior are directly either partially or exclusively toward children3. By extension, common use, a pedophile is an adult who is sexually attracted to or engages in sexual acts with a child."
Learn to google next time you speak about something you don't know about.
Everyone is talking about Sandi but not enough people are talking about how Frazzdude (an adult) was also in that server/Group chat with a bunch of minors
Fun fact frazzdude was in a dev team I’m in, thankfully he didn’t do much work. So we didn’t need to scrap much
@@thecoolaydang8104 was he lazy or didn't he have to do much ?
@@Addmeyeah didn’t have much to do ig. The dev team was and still is kinda dead lmao
Frazzdude also has a fat fetish
Everyone hyperfocuses on Sandi because he's associated with the most popular recent FNF mod, so by talking about him we automatocally make an association with the popular mod which will in turn allow us to get more attention, which is the only thing that matters to our empty, chronically online lives.
It's all about clout, nothing more, nothing less.
people give slingmingo fucking multiple chances, someone who is 100x worse then sandi: and has been proven to be a racist PDF file MULTIPLE times.
and they give a literal minor 0 chances.
GOOD JOB FNF COMMUNITY, GOOD FUCKING JOB.
Facts, assholes like Slingmingo stay while Sandi is supposedly worse than sling according to the FNF community.
not just slingmingo, you got people like madmanhalloween, betasheep, hoodatheantagonist, rightburst, and more who were cancelled yet came back and nobody said anything, yet why is it different for sandi? i don’t understand the hate, while sandi messed up people are blowing things out of proportion, it’s not fair that multiple people who have been called out multiple times, for even worse shit than this, get to just exist among us, yet when sandi fucks up once he gets kicked out of everything.
I feel so bad for him, hell ive been in hot water before a couple years back in this community so I KNOW what hes going through right now, and all I can hope is that he recovers well and comes back stronger than ever.
this community sucks sometimes
sling wasn't really a pedophile though they're 17
@@ILOVED0UGHNUTZ what did betasheep do again?
@@samuel-the-italian iirc:
made nsfw while being a minor
made nsfw of other minors characters and admitted to it on twitter
made black face luigi and tried to say the mario’s madness team made it
i think he got called out for saying the hard r a few times but i dont think thats true/i dont have enough evidence to back it
other stuff as well
BREAKING NEWS! The internet forgets how to read again!
True
ALSO MORE NEWS:
THESE PEOPLE ARE OVER 13 WHICH IS CRAZY
This is honestly dumb, why people trash on Sandi, but Frazzdude gets away with it. People in this community are getting more stupid these days smh.
I thought I was the one aware that the internet isn't very careful of what they read or see on the internet
@TurnipWxlfie Trust me, there's some, but not a lot.
@RezzyKingStats10 Frazzdude, in fact, did not get away with it. He admitted to what John Said and willingly is choosing to leave, which is commendable that he chose to own up to it.
@@monkeyb0is4276wasn’t frazzdude the ex owner of MX?
@@anonmy10 Yes, the former owner and creator of MX.
People are genuinely kind of stupid to think Sandi is a pedophile, when, by definition, a pedophile is an *adult* who is attracted to minors.
Not only is Sandi most likely not attracted to minors, but he's also not even an adult. This whole thing is just stupid honestly.
Yeah, what he did was weird and and stupid, but like come on.
You can still be a pedophile as a teen
This community will call a 7 month old baby a pdf file at this point 🤦♂️
Fr
The fetus inside you is a pedophile. Wait, you dont know abiut that?@@Imalreadyinyourhead-44
Vro i think the same dude that "exposed" Sandi was the same one said that one of the animators of the BASE GAME had a history of drawing shotacon art.
The thing is was that stuff he did was like 10 years old. I think people have a problem with blowing up something's relatively stupid and small WAAAAAAAY out of proportion.
Shotacon stuff is still weird, though. You can argue it doesn't hurt real minors, and it doesn't, but that's still weirdo behavior, especially since the dev is literally 34. No matter how long it was. We can still have the right to not like Brekkist if it makes us uncomfortable.
@bluengi3878 that is fair and true, yes
one of those arts was from 2 years ago, lock in blud
@PCCrasher42069 MB I stupid
From what in seeing this person just seems like one of those people who gets petty with people's success and tries to find anything to bring them down even if it was years ago if this is the case this is incredibly disappointing and they should focus on other things rather than stupid shit like that because then bad stuff like this happens and it sucks
no joke when i said this is the most nothing burger drama ever in FNF history
Next thing you know, they cancel Saster because he said 'fart' when he was 3 years old
@axiles843 W h a t .
For the pillar chase fans here, it sucks how a bunch of the themes Sandi made are not being added and the ingame ones were removed. It really sucks how people falsely accuse other people.
I thought the previous themes sandi made was gonna stay?
@@marknygielartates6272 they are unless someone on the team decides to remake them (the 2011x and mr virtual themes being prime examples)
Yeah i thought so too, but I checked and they changed them with new versions. Idk if they are permanent.
@@Xo_0ffic1al that's what i meant, the 2011x and mr virtual themes were remade by madzilla but the jazz lobby and christmas chase themes are still in the game
@themrbritishthing yeah atleast the remakes are not so bad
Let’s all lock this in as an honest mistake.
Imagine calling a minor a pdf file. Like it doesn’t make sense.
This is something I wish most of the students at my high school understood
Yall are so stupid, you can be a pdf and still be a minor, he should get a 2nd chance, but saying what he did wasn't bad (which is what your doing) is outrageous
@@Eddieisjustbetter a pedophile legally is 18 or older. dont make statements you dont have enough info to make.
@@Eddieisjustbetterno you cant be a pedophile and a minor
@Ryn_the_kid what if a 16 year old does something nasty with a 12 year old? Also I said Minors, I doubt 7 year Olds know what that disgusting shit is
Meh, wouldn’t be the first time a creator I liked was accused of being a pedo when in reality they just had really weird interests, still fucked up how a 16 year old got this put on him, hope the guys doing okay.
We all have at least one really weird interest, No should be shamed for having them.
I heard there replacing all his music. That’s so dumb. the mod gonna be pushed back longer. Just let him keep the songs in. He’s 17 he doesn’t know better. I’m not defending what he did but not giving him a second chance and giving major Pedos a second one is just unbelievable
*16
He was 15 at he time
We have really gotten to a point where "i dont like this person that's popular so ill call them a pdf file with almost nothing to back it up" is a common thing
i hate when people try to cancel someone over stuff from the past, like yeah it was probably a bad thing to do but it was in THE PAST, like are you aware that people are capable of changing?
if sandi was REALLY changing he wouldnt have tried to cover it up now would he
@jizzyjemon true
For the two above me, no, not true. I don't think Sandi would just randomly pull up something like THIS from his past, would you? Because I certainly wouldn't
@@Addmeyeah exactly its not very good looks tbh. like if you had a history like that you most likely wouldnt wanna bring it up from then.. thats what people dont really get so thats why you dont see people telling their every deepest darkest secret from the past ect.
@@Addmeyeah that is very true beacuse it stays in the past unless they want to get clout
we can all agree he isn't a pedo, but he's a weirdo still and he gotta take some time off
Agreed but it does suck that all of this was solved in private, he was exposed cause someone didn’t like him and used it as a way to get revenge, and thus caused him and his work to be removed from EVERYTHING he was involved in. He isn’t a pedo and is indeed a weirdo, but it’s not something that should cause him to be cancelled and have his reputation ruined and tarnished
Okay he's a weirdo for having a fetish. A...lot of people if not most people on Earth who aren't asexual are gonna have those whether they realize it or not. It's 100% fair to think its weird, but treating that like a label of being a bad or more risky person isn't great imo.
Exactly! That is really fair, for both him and the community! Not ranking him as a pedo but just letting him at least go with a warning, plus give him time to better himself, is so much better and healthier. Like think of Sandi’s mental state during all of this; seeing all these drama claims and stuff
@@gizmoray721 being friends with predatory people and indulging in the sharing of fetishes with people WAY younger than him is something worth being called out for i feel
Agreed, he by definition can't be a pedo
This is a sign, 2025 is gonna be ONE HELL of a year.
It's barely been a week, and here we are
it's even hard to avoid all the allegations and the drama to be honest.
TBF the reason he got controversy is all because he did a Drawing to a Kid he forgot to check his Age before doing it.
Sandi wasn't the artist. Sandi was a 15 year old who did stuff with someone who lied to him about being 14 online. The artist was never really blamed or brought up by people, Sandi's the ""perpetrator"" according to whoever started this bs
NEW INFORMATION! It has been CONFIRMED that thanks to John's thread which is the second Sandi involved thread, MARIO'S MADNESS WILL IN FACT HAVE TO REMAKE HIS INVOLVEMENT IN THE OST. Don't worry about the Art in All Stars Act 2 Marco has Ownership of the Act 2 Characters as well.
why tf is he getting kicked out of mm bro he is literally a minor too
@AlphaCraftMC-m5m both threads that have called out his behavior, made him a person who poses danger to many in this community and others he's involved in music wise if he wasn't pushed to perhaps rethinking his choices. Stern actions had to've been taken. BTW, I also understand that he isn't, in fact, a p***file.
@AlphaCraftMC-m5m both threads made calling out Sandi's Actions sure showed everyone that he was not, in fact, safe to be around, so in the nature of preventing future situations and giving him a space to think and re-evaluate his actions, both directors of FNF mods and other projects he makes music for such as PC2 have kicked him and are replacing his work. This is the safest outcome.
wait like, all his songs are being remade?
dude i wouldn’t doubt it if deluxe and v3 get delayed to hell and back
@@ILOVED0UGHNUTZsorry to say but the mod's on hold due to dev burnout anyhow
sigh, really wish that cancel culture just ceased to exist.
anyways bringing stuff up back from such a long time is and always will be such a stupid thing to do, considering that sandi was 15, still merely a kid that's yet to mature, at that age you're prone to making a ton of mistakes.
it just worries me because the stuff he made is dope as hell, specifically the mario's madness related conent, and now i'm probably not gonna be allowed to enjoy any of his work due to this stupid drama
Yea man, I agree, Cancel culture is like that hole in everyone ways, If ya don't pay attention you just fall.
I'm a big mario madness fan (as you can see in my pfp) and seeing this happnig broke my heart
yeah….
Same here
same
really makes you go "oh god no" doesn't it, glad it ain't "the end"
Me too bro i'm an Omega fan (as you can see in my PFP) and who made Omega ? It's Sandi. So what i says of this is that JUST FUCKING LEAVE SANDI ALONE ! Is he p**ophile ? NO ! Did he wanted harm on any real people ? NO ! And bro is 15 he's literaly two years old younger than me ! And bro create my favorite Mario.exe character of all time, he is able to do things on Fl Studio than i personaly will NEVER be able to do and it's like... This guy is as a fucking talent ! Why bothering him on such stupid things like those ?
Just a heads up, that john dude seems to be going after punkett next trying to expose them for something in a VC, cuz someone tweeted out "top 10 punkett VC moments" or smth like that, and he interigated punkett about their age in the replies of one if punketts tweets talking about another drama (sandi and frazz server shit), idk why this all seems really planned in advance cyz this is now 4 people (potentially 5 if punkett) outed and we're hardly into 2025, to me this seems a little too planned out ahead of time.
punkett has a scat fetish btw
"If I can't have the mod I want, you can't have the people who work on your mod either!" - john dude, i guess?
Man, this John dude is planning something, idk who he is but he is trying to cancel so many people and we are just starting the year
Normally I don't advocate for this, but with the harm this guy has caused and is seemingly gonna keep causing, I kinda wish this guy would get witchhunted and bullied for being an asshole who digs up old stuff for clout. It's awful to have someone running around the internet like that causing harm for the "bad people" (Sandi in this case), the "victims" (basically Sandi, Arey, and the artist for getting caught up in such stuff as minors), and the fans who are either sad about the bait or mad after they bite the bait.
yeah cuz punkett zerked it in vcs with minors LMAO punkett deserves whats coming
Sandi also worked with the pillar chase team but got kicked out for the same reason.
In my opinion that's complete bullshit.
He didn't get kicked out, he left the server on his own accord
He left out of embarrassment
@@rayquazamaster1572
He was kicked from every projects, where he worked for.
Goodbye paranoia, all the Christmas skin chase themes and 2017x chase theme.
You will be miss
Yet when there's a controversy with the original FNF developers, people forgive them or forget about it almost immediately.
Yeah, cause legit, nobody is talking about the shotacon stuff with Brekkist. That's a red flag, at least for me. I'm not saying he's a pred, but that's still hella weird even if it was years ago. He was still an adult.
@@bluengi3878Hundreds of terminally online losers tried to say it's a nothing burger just because its a drawing.
They clearly did not see Shadman to see how these "lines" to actually do something.
@KabiumKaborya shadman is a adult at the age of his 30s (i think) that made those drawings specifically to piss people off, but it does go too far. .sandi made the drawing at 15 years old when he didn't even know any better. and teenagers do FAR worse stuff that what sandi did.
i think the terminally online loser may be you looking at a mirror. cause you are trying to justify sandi being harassed by 90% of the fnf and pc2 community cause of a mistake he did. a fucking child.
ever stopped to think what the person he made the drawing for was doing? AreyMang0? being hypersexual on adult discord servers, even their own youtube. already settling this stuff PRIVATELY (which it shoulda stayed. nobody should hear what we all did as a teenager) at the time before a few years later, willingly gave private screenshots and inside info to john ezax (another person im suspicious of).
This isn't a nothing-burger because of a drawing. it's a nothingburger because of it being pointed at a teenager with drama already settled between both teens that did a wrong. except sandi is now stress and overwhelmed, while Arey is just lounging around as a cutesy persona, being hypersexual with other people saying "my belly is big~ im gonna burst!!" (evidence on her latest video) you can say arey doesn't know any better as well since she was 13 at the time, but she is 15 now while sandi is 17, and she gave out that info for malicious reasons that...again.. they both ALREADY settled.
Both did something stupid. but one is dragging it out for clout.
BREAKING NEWS! The fnf community decides it would be the best time to start a new year with another revie situation! Sandi was a minor at the time or something,,,,, probably 16 or something idk my only source is youtube videos,,, but he still should’ve checked the age
nvm the person who commissioned the art actually commented saying sandi did check his age before drawing so uhhhhhhhh yeah
And the person who commissioned the art now have 13 instead of 14 and Sandi knows her age? Man this is kinda, SUS
@@Ron-bt4wf Pretty sure that person had lied about their age though
Unless this comment is saying Sandi found out Arey was 13 and went along with the art at 16
In that case okay that is b a d-not as bad as the usual pdfs but still *b a d* if true
@ i guess yeah
@@gizmoray721 Sandi was 15 at the time and aery lied about being 14 but was 13
This is why Twitter calls us weird huh
Fnf community dosent stop with this things even tough we on the big 2025
I had to rewatch some parts of the video to understand it clearly,
And yeah, this drama is so stupid
Arey and Sandi have gotten themselves into this problem
By the end of the year, they're gonna end up cancelling the last good FNF musician and at last, only the 11 year old kids will remain to make shit music. Bravo, community, bravo...
This whole drama is just a prime example of why we should make a test before entering social media if you even are smart enough to read everything in a text
You guys know the shrek meme where it's shrek asking donkey why can't he be himself for 5 minutes? That's me with the fnf/twitter community
I’m shocked that frazzdude, an legal adult who was on the server wasn’t exposed at all while sandi, a teen was exposed
The fact that the mod which Sandi also worked in, such as:
- Mistful Crimson Morning
- D-Sides
- Mario's Madness
- Dead Air
- etc.
...people/devs just kick him out due to this STUPID drama.
I mean, srs, Sandi did wrong but at least NOW he doesn't do that, he has changed. Why would these people kick those people who did wrong in THE PAST? I would give him a second chance because he doesn't do that NOW.
And also, a lot of people don't talk about Frazzdude, which is even more stupid than I thought.
What is this internet going on?
wow...a creator getting cancelled in 2025 already?
Wait I forgot, what number guy are you?
@@Zairewhiz huh?
@zombiegamerboi your pfp, it's an sml wiki reference but idk what guy number you are
Not a good way to start 2025
And people say dragon ball fans can't read...
😭💀
lol
This just seems- really- frickin'.... dumb. Like it's not right yeah- but calling him a Pablo when he's also a minor- Like it's just a minor mistake(nopunintended) that was made- Ofc it's bad and all- but personally- I feel like he's gonna deserve an apology for this crap later down the line-
Or it could get worse- but I rlly feel like this isn't that big of a deal. Also the funny thing is- I found out about this from a video talking about the chase music for Mr. Virtual in Pillar Chase 2 getting changed bc of this- and what's even worse is the chase music is mid af D:<
This entire comment just rlly boils down to I don't think this is that big of a deal and later on he's gonna need an apology in some way- I also think there needs to be like- A LOT more solid proof backing up wtf everyone is saying about 'em-
Long-a$$ comments for the win baby
Ikr,people is overreacting
I COULD be wrong- but that's honestly just how this feels to me- could also be denial bc I really like the stuff Sandi has made- but eh, if he's still a minor, and he did bad stuff while he was still a minor(or in other words some years back)- it's labeled as bad don't get me wrong- and there has been WAYYYYYY worse sh(izzle) in the world that's happened- but it's also at all at the same time just mistakes people make as dumb teenagers- like you can look at anyone on Earth, and there isn't one person who hasn't done atleast ONE bad thing or mistake when they were a teenager.
I get that Sandi fucked up and all, but I feel like we should be turning our heads at Frazzdude because he was extremely irresponsible.
The FNF Community (Specifically the EXE and in general) are some of the worst...I've been in some drama and it's genuinely disgusting,good thing I left it
our mod was the first one he ever worked on, and now he's getting exposed? what a time to be alive...
People would rather hear a short story than a long story
This is same community that gave other actual offenders have multiple chances (MayMay4Dayz)
All seriousness though, i personally say everybody in the wrong..
Nobody gave Mayz and other bad people multiple chances after being outed, its just that theres always fans of those that would support and work with them no matter what, this happens in any community sadly.
I've never seen a community so divided and honestly this sucks but what's even worse is the people losing their minds about sandi's music
Tbh Sandi's "Expossal" felt more like a public humilliation to a Teenager than an actual exposal of an actual danger, man, this is so fucking ridiculous 💀
hi i made the original thread on sandi. let me correct something.
sandi actually asked arey (the younger minor) if she had fetish art of her, to which she told sandi "no but she wishes" and sandi went on to ask bivey, a 17 year old, to draw the art, not telling her areys age.
also john ezax never owned the original exe mod he was just a very notable archivist and leaker of it, and he made a very accurate revival.
wait what SHE WISHED IT DAWG WHAT
WHY TF DID AREY WISHES -FETISH- ON HER!???
@@thesmartestluigii mean yea but the fact remains sandi asked first
Ezax being a leaker doesn't really make me trust him any more than I already did.
@Porcupine2009 he used to, he doesnt leak anymore
RIP Sandi...
Indeed rip beacuse he was the very good composer in the whole entire fnf community
And PC2
One slip up in life and its over bro. You can be a 5 year old who accidentally does smth bad and your whole life is ruined. This generation is cooked
it's really fucking sad how vile and petty people can be to defame and ruin your life by digging into your past and showing it to the world. but a single person thinks to look into the exposers's past. and usually, they are 10x worse and an actual bad person looking for clout, or are jealous.
I was just enjoy listening to Golden land retake,until i saw the comment section saying about the sandi drama,and i had known nothing about it,but thanks for making this man,i underrstanded it now :>
Frazzdude is the only person who should be cancelled in this situation
What did frazz do?
@@anonmy10 DREW VORE OF A FOURTEEN YEAR OOOOLD
@ he was in the fat fetish server with Sandi full of minors, but frazzdude was 18
It's 2025 and already drama happening
Sandi was actually making a Green Mountain mod called Returnal and it was gonna have lyrics but due to the drama he had i don't think he'll be finishing that mod but if we get rid of him the best future songs will be ass so pls don't get rid of him.
i swear these people cant read, lmao. it was two minors. it's weird, not illegal, for a 13 y.o to ask a 15 y.o for nsfw art. get your facts straight. it's weird, not illegal.(this is for those who called sandi a pedo)
Being called a pedophile whilst also being a minor? That doesn't make any sense. pedos are adults who are sexually attracted to minors, now being one under 18 is absurd and very stupid to claim.
so no wonder why they got rid of all of sandi chase themes in pillar chase 2
I think Sandi can make a great comeback and recover, this drama was bullshit the moment it even started, seems people never learn from the Kwite and Pyro situations
I heard there replacing all his music. That’s so dumb. the mod gonna be pushed back longer. Just let him keep the songs in. He’s 17 he doesn’t know better. I’m not defending what he did but not giving him a second chance and giving major Pedos a second one is just unvely
@skylarsworld9477 Unfortunately, no, Marco made that tweet after the first thread (not the same person). On the wiki page, You can find that after the second thread, two Discord Messages From Marco Himself detailing that yes, there are most definitely changes occuring with The OST now.
Lots of people learned that this situation is a complete nothing-burger before this became another revie at least, so that's good
This drama is quite stupid ngl.
I saw John's post about an fnf Dev and the things he said had poeple calling for his head
Fr
getting out of the fnf fandom is now starting to sound like a good idea
PLEASE!!!
YOU CANT TAKE SANDI AWAY FROM ME
I NEED HIM TO FINISH RETURNAL
PLEASE!!!
So basically just the Revi situation lol. People really CAN'T read. This is the reason why a person's image is so easily ruined.
Basically another revie situation
Unlike Raven, who had completely been proven innocent, this was definitely a situation where he is still in the wrong, with all possible info, considering he also chose to try and encourage one of his friends to lie is also problematic.
@monkeyb0is4276 I'm mean fair, it's still something that should not have happened, but in the end it's just teens being teens.
@@newerboomerangmiaro7778 ain't that the truth
rightburst was a piece of shit who was making revie look like a predator
Antonio on the other hand was investigating sandi, making sure his shit was real, and all that other junk
In short, one is not like the other.
It's more pyrocynical
Man at this point it’s only a matter of time till someone else gets cancelled and the cycle of being found as diddys repeats🤦🏾
Being accused of pedophilia for drawing a 14 year old while being 15. Only in fnf
Farewell Sandi just please try to fix your problems and when you think it’s good time you can return
A friend of mine known as Drybonez from the pvz community was falsely accused by many people and known people in the pvz communit for being a pdf file despite all of this drama happening when he was... 13-15. Im surprised it too the fnf community this long for the same thing to happen.
This is redundant and everyone who thinks that Sandi is a predator are all idiots. They should feel ashamed for pretty much ruining things due to their small brains.
No wonder why paranoia and Promotion got removed. I was so confused, but I'm still confused how two MINORS get in trouble if it isn't a diddy-like situation
He also got taken off the PIllar chase team
Did the music disability limited whenever cover for Christmas come back where to bring 😑
What a way to start the year
I really REALLY don't want to have another year where we can't have sh¡ț without having any drama or serious problematics almost every goddam week
if 2024 was anything to go by. then boy, 2025 and onward are not gonna be better. i don't care if im being pessimistic, this is how the world is nowadays.
Okay so the only reason I know anything about this and went looking for the lore is because of Pappo's QR code hunt on his Green Mountain video, and I looked in the comments to see if people time stamped the qr codes (they did, love them), and then saw the pinned comment about someone named sandi(???) and there being a "situation". And I thought "oh Pappo mentioned them in the video, something about a cool edgy sounding song". But people in the comments replying to the pinned comment were saying the cool edgy song might not happen now cause of the "situation".
So anyways I went looking on twitter (cause that's where you go to find the drama and the lore for the drama) and sandi's account is a graveyard, locked and privatized or whatever it's called on twitter. So I searched up the account's @thingy in the twitter search bar and a bunch of the posts/tweets/replies to sandi's tweets were just roasting him about fat fetish art, and I though "okay, weird, not bad but definitely weird, don't know why people are so upset about fetish art."
And then one tweet I saw mentioned something about a minor, but I couldn't (easily) find anything else, so now I'm here cause I put "green mountain returnal sandi drama" into the youtube search bar.
Anyways all that aside, thanks for the informative video.
So lemme get this straight. This guy, a minor, drew questionable art of another minors character, with consent from both parties, and now everyone hates him for it? Do I have that right?
gah damn, more eff enn eff drama in the beginning of the year 2025? gettin' my popcorn for ts, FNF controversies are like bedtime stories for me lol
13 with basically 16 sounds bad though I don't understand 2-year age gaps well so I'm not sure. It seems more like a thing where it would depend on maturity potentially being bad or good while a 1-year gap is definitely fine. More than two and they are def a ped though so I'm glad it's not that far. Also, if the definition of ped specifies adults than it's wrong, age gaps can be issues for two minors as well.
aparently he was 15 acording to the minor but a week away for turning into 16
I feel bad for Sandi this “drama” was all blown out of proportion and people overreacted
A Little Update to this Personally: Sandi Channel is Currently Deleted including all of his OST Videos, personally i was starting to hate this man before the Drama Even Started, its was Like Slingo and Nayukhrome, also happy new year and let's hope 2025 of FNF Is better all the drama last year kinda died down on my love for the game,
I hope someone archive his music beacuse his music is very good to be honest from a 16 year old and that's saying something but.. he decided to waist all of his talent for.. stupid stuff
Get no liking sling but what about nayu what did he do
@@anonmy10ERPed with and solicited nudes from a 14-15 yr while 16-17, a pain in the ass to work with, talks shit about others behind their backs and gets them to join VCs so he can bully them, pretended to make fun of someone’s grandma dying with Floombo on Twitter, there’s more but idr
The biggest drama in Sandi's life is PROMOTION v2
choo aa cho oo cha aa cho
I'm gonna crashout if returnal gets cancelled.
It realesed already but not the final version
It's being remade but without sandi
2025 is gonna be a great year
Secs later:Sandi drama
Discord is a freaking lion's den and I hate it with a boiling passion.
You said it, god those people really can't take a chill pill
New year new pile of drama to suffer through...
Come on, it's 2025! Can't we put these old habits behind us for this year??
People who hold minors up the same standards as adults are always idiots
Like, of course a TEENAGER won't have the same level of maturity as a GROWN ADULT. It's just a fact, and for grown-ups to actually forget that and not even THINK about it is just
Childish in it of itself
Ever since this drama came out, I wasn’t mad at Sandi nor against him, yes what he did was wrong. But at the same time, he isn’t a pdf file but this community will ravage you to pieces if they find something to get mad at you about and blow everything out of proportion. Have horrible people been outed for being a bad person in the community? Yes, for example Sling (I hate him 😭). Have they ran somebody innocent off of the internet?, also yes. Sandi isn’t 100% innocent but he is literally 16 so he has time and room to grow as a person.
Man Sandi did a thing that can be forgivable, and man who calls a 15 year old PDF
Uhh can u do a video on springy_salts drama i want more people to know
Springy_Salt is someone I used to work with on a project called Jeffy’s Indefinite Hiatus, and while things started out fine, they quickly took a turn for the worse. He accused me of tracing art when it was actually HIM doing the tracing. When I politely called him out and asked him to stop tracing, he banned me from the project and told me I should “burn in hell.”
But that’s just the beginning. He used racial slurs multiple times while we were playing Garry’s Mod. At first, I thought it was a mistake, but he kept saying the N-word over and over. I even recorded proof using my clipping software, Medal. This wasn’t a one-time thing-it’s a pattern of his behavior.
He then tried to blackmail me by editing a harmless clip of me saying the word “snicker” to make it sound like I said something offensive. That shows just how far he’ll go to try to ruin someone’s reputation.
On top of that, he spread false rumors about me, like claiming I was lazy or traced my art, which was completely untrue. Meanwhile, he stole my cover art idea, tweaked it slightly, and even used my artwork for his banner without my permission. That’s not just unethical; it’s straight-up theft.
Springy also disrespected my beliefs. When I quoted a simple Bible verse, his friend gave me a “fool role” in their Discord server, and Springy himself called Christianity a “stupid belief.” That kind of targeted hate and mockery for someone’s faith is just unacceptable.
Now, let’s talk about the “silly style.” This is a unique and recognizable art style created by someone else, which Springy blatantly copied without asking or giving credit. He tried to pass it off as his own work, but I have evidence to prove otherwise. His lack of originality and willingness to steal from others show his true colors.
After enduring all of this for years, I decided to expose him. I revealed his actions to others and even convinced key members of his team, including the main composer, to leave his project. We took back control by repurposing the stolen assets for my project, SML Movie: Devastation.
Springy’s harassment and toxic behavior went on for four years. He and his group would gang up on me and attack me for no reason, likely because I was part of a larger, better team. And karma hit hard-people began accusing HIM of horrible things because of the lies and rumors HE spread about others, including me.
Please
I hope they do make a vid about this
this doesnt really seem like much tbh lolz
@AubreyGal i mean there were things that might? not be true the he ummm
Diddyed a dog
Welp, there goes some of the best tracks from MM (Paranoia, Starman Slaughter, Promotion)
This shit sucks
Another Day, a Drama Occured in 2025.
UGH. WHY DOES MY FAVORITE MOD HAVE TO GO THROUGH SHIT LIKE THIS.
This is exactly why I have love hate relationship with the Internet
As a Pillar Chase 2 player, i'm sad that we won't get any more banger music from him. (basically he makes music for a roblox horror/survival game named ''Pillar Chase 2'') But also disappointed cause why would you do that kind of stuff, thats weird af
the worst part was that Sandi was kinda the reason to why most of the chase themes in pc2 were great (since I heard that some of the best chase themes in the game were getting replaced and I believe it’s because of the creator) and now that they’re gone and are being replaced, it’s hard to get used to the new ones anymore (everyone hated the new theme for mr v cause it sounded bland and didn’t fit him, but after the song was remade to have a more circus theme, people are okay with it, but there are still a lot of people that are sad that such a good theme was replaced). I just hate it when talented artists/content creators ruin their own careers because of weird sh&t, separating art from them is impossible these days.
BRING BACK PARANOIA 🔥🔥
IM ALREADY IN YOUR HEAD 🔥🔥🔥🔥
People do lots of dumb things as teens, it’s a bit disappointing that he didn’t do better, yes but I think we all should be ready to hear him out because the initial misinformed response from the public is what caused him to panic and leave in the first place.
One minor
Asked another Minor
To get art of their persona but fat.
Said Minor asked another Minor to do so.
No Porn.
No Grooming.
No Pedophilia.
Just fat person art.
Not even 1 week has passed and there's already a drama.
Just wow.
This was in December tho,
Some communities never change.
*Well that's A LOT of change for Mario's Madness...*
So let me get this straight… a minor was approached by unknowingly another minor to draw art, and he did it. This minor in question is also in a perverted discord server with other minors and is somehow expected to leave because it makes him look like a pedo?
All of this controversy makes no sense, the dude was a minor when he drew the art and he didn’t even know the age of the person. And as for why he didn’t ask for the age there’s two possible justifications. The first being plausible reason, the person is commissioning nsfw art, so unless the person states or insinuates that they’re a minor, one would naturally assume the opposite. The second reason being that as a fellow minor, why would he care? Thinking in the mind of a child, why would a kid see issue with drawing another kid sexually when consented to, asked by, and paid to by that person.
And the same logic can be used for the discord server. He was and still is a kid, why would he care that a 18+ server has minors in it? He’s also a minor. Of course he wouldn’t leave to “protect himself from being labeled a pedo”, because he’s still considered a target too.
This whole thing is honestly stupid, and the dude has done nothing truly wrong.
... The sandi drama is so stupid, people are so pressed over something that's already resolved.
What’s so stupid is that I keep seeing comments about how the “age gap was weird” between a 13 & 15 year old.
Guys I bet most relationships are two years apart, especially if you’re at school and you see a 15 with a 13 year old person (or maybe my school was just weird in and of itself). If it was 3 years, yeah maybe weird. If it was 4 years, definitely weird, but calling it weird for 2 YEARS?? c’mon now
And once again, internet has never failed to make me lose braincells