I agree. Thinner. I’m getting into a phase here where I am looking for thinner and caliber. A very interesting and appealing watch, but better as a thinner dress watch? Also, the NH35A movement and variants are now synonymous to me with Chinese Pagani Design watches. The thickness and the caliber put me off this very affordable and intriguing watch.
Citizen Chronomaster has the most insane AR coating I ever saw in my life and this Redentore needs that very high quality ar coating just to emphasize that dial even more!
I love the ultrablack dial, but agree the case is problematic - the crown guards are out of place and it is entirely too thick. This dial belongs on a thin, elegant dress piece with high polish (to contrast the dial) and scaled down dimensions. Thanks for sharing (and for using my images!).
It is very big and thick. I don't mind the elaborateness so much, but think this has the hallmarks of an elegant dress watch, which is then denied by the dimensions of the case. I do appreciate the details of the case, because this contrasts with the dial where there is little going on. Not sure it has the right crystal either. And talking about the crystal, isn't this one instance where it absolutely had got to be two dozen times coated underneath and on top of the crystal to ever experience that special paint's lack of light? I mean, it surely looks black to me and I appreciate a screen cannot convey 'true' lack of light, but logic dictates that any slightly reflective material on top of a surface without light reflection, negates the effect of the latter. Am I wrong about that?
Thanks for showing this, Tim. I was ready to snag one but it sure is larger/bulkier than I'd prefer for this style...so a pass. Thanks for keeping it classy.
Hi Tim. When working with paints, the perfect black would be the sum of all the infinite colors. When working with light, the perfect black would be the total absence of light. Nature is weird. This almost-true-black watch is interesting, but I wonder how much more the black on the dial would stand out if the watch had a brown leather strap like the ones you make. Regards from Chile!
Mont Blanc is all over the place on their watches, not a watch you buy from an AD, if you like the watch and there are some nice pieces and can score one at a good price on the aftermarket where you will take very little if any hit. Go for it.
Be wary when dealing with Venezianico. Tried to cancel a pre-order within my consumer rights and faced unnecessary resistance and they are refusing to cancel it. It's the worst customer service experience I've had to date, and I'm not alone in this. I'd urge caution to anyone considering a purchase from this brand. #CustomerRightsMatter
500 euros is not affordable for an NH35 powered watch, they really should have opted for a 9 series Miyota and made the case slimmer. And having a ghost date at this price is unacceptable. The design is also quite confusing. The dial would be perfect for a dress watch. Yet the dimensions and the insistence on having crowd guards positions it as an everyday watch, which it most certainly isn't. Make it slimmer, make it smaller, drop the crown guards, update the movement and then we're talking. Would also love to see a rectangular watch with this dial! Also maybe drop the seconds hand while you're at it.
I saw in the Bold Hairspring review of this, Venezianico also offer it on a bracelet. That is a much better pairing IMO given the chunky nature of the case, it's a pity they didn't include one for your review.
I am in into sport and divers watch, would love a combination of Vantablack whit hours markers and hand set made of the most reflective metal on earth 9999 silver
They can go 50M WR for such a dress watch, and make it thinner. It would benefit it far more than the current 100M WR I believe. NH35 is already not so thin. Overall the case just doesn't work well with the excellent dial.
The NH35 is a good movement. But, that's why they can sell it for $400. All of their costs went into that ultra back paint. I love it. I thinks it's dope!
NH35 movement cost= 50eur, Dial=400 eur, Case+Bracelet=50 eur. think its a bit expensive for what you get. Tottally agree with your review on the case. Another nice review.
@@IDKline I was joking about the dial price, but i guarantee you about the rest. i just made a Watch last week for 150eur with this same movement. Im sure that paint isnt cheap but come on... i wouldnt pay more than 300 for this one.
Ok I like it, but really, this watch is a kind of hybrid. It really is a sport casual watch, but with a very elegant dial and set of hands. For me the Movado museum is very black, also the Rolex Explorer. I would love to compare this watch to them and of course the Moser vantablack. But for the price this is a fantastic sport casual black dial watch with dauphine hands and that cross looks very cool.
This is where the concept's wheels fall off. To begin with, the crystal is going to compromise the whole thing. The perfect solution would be to have no crystal at all, and the dial and hands protected by some sort of 'force field'. Secondly, buying a strap might be a bit tricky, as a normal 'jet-black' leather strap will look like a MardiGras carnival next to it.
![moje spotkanie z Wenecjańczykami [Venezianico UltraBlack, Clous de Paris, Riserva di Carrica]](/img/n.gif)
This ultra black version would better fit in my opinion to a thinner model, this would give her a more elegant style
I agree. Thinner. I’m getting into a phase here where I am looking for thinner and caliber. A very interesting and appealing watch, but better as a thinner dress watch? Also, the NH35A movement and variants are now synonymous to me with Chinese Pagani Design watches. The thickness and the caliber put me off this very affordable and intriguing watch.
Completely agree!
I like the idea, but it's too large and generic.
Sadly lack of indices turns me off from this one :/
Can’t read the minutes 😅
I don't think the superblack application makes sense there. The crystal itself reflects more light than regular black.
It's beautiful, but it reminds me of the amoled display on my smartwatch 😅
Citizen Chronomaster has the most insane AR coating I ever saw in my life and this Redentore needs that very high quality ar coating just to emphasize that dial even more!
Agreed. Skimping on AR rather defeats this dial's purpose.
I love the ultrablack dial, but agree the case is problematic - the crown guards are out of place and it is entirely too thick. This dial belongs on a thin, elegant dress piece with high polish (to contrast the dial) and scaled down dimensions. Thanks for sharing (and for using my images!).
Good watch for a vampire, as it absorbs the light. 😁
It is very big and thick. I don't mind the elaborateness so much, but think this has the hallmarks of an elegant dress watch, which is then denied by the dimensions of the case. I do appreciate the details of the case, because this contrasts with the dial where there is little going on. Not sure it has the right crystal either. And talking about the crystal, isn't this one instance where it absolutely had got to be two dozen times coated underneath and on top of the crystal to ever experience that special paint's lack of light? I mean, it surely looks black to me and I appreciate a screen cannot convey 'true' lack of light, but logic dictates that any slightly reflective material on top of a surface without light reflection, negates the effect of the latter. Am I wrong about that?
Way to big for this kind of watch. 36-38mm and 10mm thick would look much more elegant.
Agreed, thinner and smaller with no crown guards and it’s a knock out value.
What an awesome watch but I wish they would add hour markers, numbers or Roman numerals otherwise it looks too much like a Movado.
People will most likely praise this watch but continue to give Movado sh!t. (eyeroll)
You better find the dial interesting, because that’s all this thing offers.
Thanks for showing this, Tim. I was ready to snag one but it sure is larger/bulkier than I'd prefer for this style...so a pass. Thanks for keeping it classy.
They also have the 36mm 👌
100% agree, this would be a stunner in a slim case. A high-beat Miyota from the 9-series would be great for that.
Hi Tim. When working with paints, the perfect black would be the sum of all the infinite colors. When working with light, the perfect black would be the total absence of light. Nature is weird. This almost-true-black watch is interesting, but I wonder how much more the black on the dial would stand out if the watch had a brown leather strap like the ones you make. Regards from Chile!
I'd would probably never take it off, in fear of that hideous back engraving. Otherwise decent Venturer hommage.
I pre ordered one, CANT WAIT..
Grand Seiko SBGW295. You'll have to sell both kidneys and your firstborn, but still ...
Mont Blanc is all over the place on their watches, not a watch you buy from an AD, if you like the watch and there are some nice pieces and can score one at a good price on the aftermarket where you will take very little if any hit. Go for it.
I got a Redentore 2.0, but I think this is too thick.
Sapphire sandwich. Lovely box crystal. Not sure this is an improvement.
Also.. Chinese brands have some very black dials with tourbillons.
Be wary when dealing with Venezianico. Tried to cancel a pre-order within my consumer rights and faced unnecessary resistance and they are refusing to cancel it. It's the worst customer service experience I've had to date, and I'm not alone in this. I'd urge caution to anyone considering a purchase from this brand. #CustomerRightsMatter
500 euros is not affordable for an NH35 powered watch, they really should have opted for a 9 series Miyota and made the case slimmer. And having a ghost date at this price is unacceptable. The design is also quite confusing. The dial would be perfect for a dress watch. Yet the dimensions and the insistence on having crowd guards positions it as an everyday watch, which it most certainly isn't. Make it slimmer, make it smaller, drop the crown guards, update the movement and then we're talking. Would also love to see a rectangular watch with this dial! Also maybe drop the seconds hand while you're at it.
Interesting technology but a pretty useless watch, correct twice a day, at least the nh35 inaccuracy won't be a problem.
The black dial on the Citizen 0040 is the darkest dial I've every seen.
It's completely black. Dark, deep black.
Looks better on the arm than in the lightbox! But the diameter is too big 38 mm would have been enough! Greetings from Hamburg Eimsbüttel 🙂
I saw in the Bold Hairspring review of this, Venezianico also offer it on a bracelet. That is a much better pairing IMO given the chunky nature of the case, it's a pity they didn't include one for your review.
I am in into sport and divers watch, would love a combination of Vantablack whit hours markers and hand set made of the most reflective metal on earth 9999 silver
With so much reflections from the crystal I think the super black dial is pointless.
They can go 50M WR for such a dress watch, and make it thinner.
It would benefit it far more than the current 100M WR I believe. NH35 is already not so thin. Overall the case just doesn't work well with the excellent dial.
The NH35 is a good movement. But, that's why they can sell it for $400. All of their costs went into that ultra back paint. I love it. I thinks it's dope!
I agree with your opinion regarding the crown guards. I would love to see this watch without them.
it looks greyish on direct bright light and the side of the case will cast a shadow on the dial.
i hope these reviewers mention it.
The Crystal reflects light so it takes away from the blackness
I kind of like it.
Too big, too thick, too boring.
Nice idea, this very black dial, but completely ruined by diameter and thickness.
Ha ha, you've just described me 😆😉
Super big...
I had that Mont Blanc...they were made in nice sizes back then!
Looks like a movado
Not Really.
I knew someone would type what I was thinking 😅
NH35 movement cost= 50eur, Dial=400 eur, Case+Bracelet=50 eur. think its a bit expensive for what you get. Tottally agree with your review on the case. Another nice review.
@@IDKline I was joking about the dial price, but i guarantee you about the rest. i just made a Watch last week for 150eur with this same movement. Im sure that paint isnt cheap but come on... i wouldnt pay more than 300 for this one.
Ok I like it, but really, this watch is a kind of hybrid. It really is a sport casual watch, but with a very elegant dial and set of hands. For me the Movado museum is very black, also the Rolex Explorer. I would love to compare this watch to them and of course the Moser vantablack. But for the price this is a fantastic sport casual black dial watch with dauphine hands and that cross looks very cool.
Having 20cm wrists I think this will be ideal for me, and I will have mine very soon.😁
This is where the concept's wheels fall off.
To begin with, the crystal is going to compromise the whole thing. The perfect solution would be to have no crystal at all, and the dial and hands protected by some sort of 'force field'.
Secondly, buying a strap might be a bit tricky, as a normal 'jet-black' leather strap will look like a MardiGras carnival next to it.
Doesn't it get hot on your wrist given its absorption of almost all wavelengths?
Mmmm - I think I would struggle to tell the time without indicies
Nice watches Tim, love you buddy! 💥
I'm a bit curious, do we know our dear host's day job?
That's not a secret. Local journalism for Funke Medien.
@@CasebackWatches ah, that's surprising. I thought maybe some kind of university professor, I don't exactly know why.
Dial looks navy blue, strap looks black black on my iPad. Does it have an anti-reflection coating?
Interesting watch but not on the want list.
Would be nice to compare this watch with a Movado Museum which I think is the most well known watch of this style. To me this watch is too big